Just listen to how terrified they are! No straightforward answer, lots of waffling. No MP should be in office if they cannot protect children from activists
EVERYONE should ban teaching lies to children. ANYONE who does should be jailed - I don't care which flag they fly. The word 'gender' has no place outside a book of grammar. Biological entities do not have a 'gender'. They have a sex: female or male. This is *determined* at fertilisation and does not change, no matter how much poisoning with puberty-blockers or wrong-sex hormones, or experimental genital mutilations are perpetrated.
Nobody covered themselves in glory there then apart from the woman who asked the question. The Tory and Stephen Flynn just waffled. Kids are currently INDOCTRINATED. Absolutely disgusting.
Stephen Flynn seems to think that teachers are in a much better position to guide his child than he is. If that is so, he should never have become a parent.
OF COURSE THEY SHOULD....Let individuals finally decide when they are young adults. It's up to parents in the interim. What in Gods name have the government to do with it?
The Conservative panelist 'Megan' didn't connect with the question, sidestepping into the NHS & the Cass review instead of tackling Trans ideology as (taught to all ages). An opportunity missed to explain the ideology & its impact on children.
Children of any age should not be taught anything about Trans ideology. The Cass report gave clear recommendations that cross sex hormones and puberty blockers should not be given. Instead calls for a more psychological approach in their treatments as many have been found to have other problems, CSA, Autism especially in girls, the child might have seen DV against their mother and themselves. Girls especially got through a period of hating their bodies bc of the massive changes getting ready for womanhood and having to fight off the unwanted attention of the hairy hormones that is teenage boys. Yes, children get confused that is the important part of growing up Children and parents aren't being told that they will be come sterile and puberty blockers aren't reversible. I give you a bit of food for thought. A healthy woman of say 25 desides she doesn't want children She gets refused by the doctors to have her tubes tied. Now a teenage girl just out of puberty can get her tissues removed along healthy breasts tissue.
Is Stephen ever going to shut up saying nothing? That woman whose name I forget should have put him in his place and told him not to be so rude. What a load of sh*t from all of them.
This panel are really ignorant about gender ideology…it’s a social construct based on stereotypes and really dangerous…we need to help people accept the body they are born in -puberty is a difficult time and it needs to be handled carefully. That is not by affirming they are in the ‘wrong’ body but working through why they feel that way.
You can tell the polititians in the room. When asked a simple question, they can't or won't answer it. What is the contested theory? Hang on I will get out my big book of ideology to see what the politically correct answer is at this second.
If they stop teaching this shit in Schools , most Kids wouldn't give it a seconds thought , Schools are planting this in their heads , & Kids being Kids are playing along with it , & taking the mince out of their Teachers.
Kids wouldn’t even know about being born in the wrong body if teachers weren’t suggesting it. As soon as there’s a hint a child has gender dysmorphia there should be very good counselling and therapies available. We’re living in a very sick world where adults want to sexualise children.
All sex education should be banned in schools. It is the parents' responsibility to educate their children on the subject. Indoctrination by teachers for political reasons is unacceptable.
Better yet offer these classes to PARENTS instead. Basic reproductive biology, stds, recognizing predatory behavior, and encouraging children to turn to their parents for values based questions makes more sense.
Steven Flynn's face was like thunder when the question was asked, but whoever plucked that Tory spokesperson from a McJob somewhere owes him a pint. I've never heard such a flailing, ill-informed response since Primary School book report. He thinks he's got away with it: then Salmond gets his turn. And Salmond HAS done the reading.
Steven….why are your children going to be spending most of their time (in your words) with teachers rather than you??? A week has 168hrs…..you children are at school 25hrs per week of that…school is open for 190 days of 365 days a year…..you may want to think this through mate….whose talking to your children about sex & gender if not you??? 😮
He sounds like he wants to be relieved of his responsibilities as a parent and leave it to others, rEdgard less of how poorly educated the "experts" are or how ideologically captured they are by ano unevidenced philosophy Opryland which has plenty of evidence of hurting people.
It's really easy. Contested information cannot be taught in schools as fact or as the prevailing view of the national culture, at any level. Perhaps for older school kids and in FE careful classroom discussions might be had on ideas about gender (masculine/feminine spectrum) and sexuality. Why not. But teaching, or even suggesting, that sex is anything other than a biological, binary fact (male/female), and that people can change between sexes just by saying so, is dangerous fantasy that often leads to longterm psychological problems for untreated dysmorphia/dysphoria and even physical harm. So yes, age appropriate, balanced discussion for older learners on gender and sexuality, with biological facts being taught as such. Although I fear it's too late for HE, as universities' humanities faculties are the root cause of the rise of militant identitarianism, where the aim is no longer learning, it's indoctrination into the postmodernist, neo-Marxist cult (of which trans ideology is but one tenet). I think the UK HE system is beyond help in this respect.
Ian Dale is not an unbiased person on this issue. He has, shall we say, certain preconceived ideas about sexuality. And it is completely incorrect to say that Section 28 (or Clause 4 in Scotland) banned the mention of the word 'homosexuality' in the classroom. But that is the kind of inaccurate information you will get from people with a certain preconceived background. And why was he on the panel, anyway?
This should be banned in the whole world.
Yes because it’s all bollocks … should always be about biology and no involvement of mermaids, stonewall, etc.
It’s not just about bollocks if you get my humour 😂. But yes I agree with you totally.
I cant believe that people are still being polite about this.
Because they’ll be penalised for expressing a contrarian opinion to the prevailing narrative. So much for free speech.
Yes of course
Just listen to how terrified they are! No straightforward answer, lots of waffling. No MP should be in office if they cannot protect children from activists
EVERYONE should ban teaching lies to children. ANYONE who does should be jailed - I don't care which flag they fly. The word 'gender' has no place outside a book of grammar. Biological entities do not have a 'gender'. They have a sex: female or male. This is *determined* at fertilisation and does not change, no matter how much poisoning with puberty-blockers or wrong-sex hormones, or experimental genital mutilations are perpetrated.
Nobody covered themselves in glory there then apart from the woman who asked the question. The Tory and Stephen Flynn just waffled. Kids are currently INDOCTRINATED. Absolutely disgusting.
Stephen Flynn seems to think that teachers are in a much better position to guide his child than he is. If that is so, he should never have become a parent.
OF COURSE THEY SHOULD....Let individuals finally decide when they are young adults. It's up to parents in the interim.
What in Gods name have the government to do with it?
What kind of world are we living freckin sick
The Conservative panelist 'Megan' didn't connect with the question, sidestepping into the NHS & the Cass review instead of tackling Trans ideology as (taught to all ages). An opportunity missed to explain the ideology & its impact on children.
Children of any age should not be taught anything about Trans ideology. The Cass report gave clear recommendations that cross sex hormones and puberty blockers should not be given. Instead calls for a more psychological approach in their treatments as many have been found to have other problems, CSA, Autism especially in girls, the child might have seen DV against their mother and themselves. Girls especially got through a period of hating their bodies bc of the massive changes getting ready for womanhood and having to fight off the unwanted attention of the hairy hormones that is teenage boys.
Yes, children get confused that is the important part of growing up
Children and parents aren't being told that they will be come sterile and puberty blockers aren't reversible. I give you a bit of food for thought. A healthy woman of say 25 desides she doesn't want children She gets refused by the doctors to have her tubes tied. Now a teenage girl just out of puberty can get her tissues removed along healthy breasts tissue.
Is Stephen ever going to shut up saying nothing? That woman whose name I forget should have put him in his place and told him not to be so rude. What a load of sh*t from all of them.
This panel are really ignorant about gender ideology…it’s a social construct based on stereotypes and really dangerous…we need to help people accept the body they are born in -puberty is a difficult time and it needs to be handled carefully. That is not by affirming they are in the ‘wrong’ body but working through why they feel that way.
‘His brother died of ovarian cancer’ oh ffs 🤦♀️
😂
Why are we even debating this grotesque nonsense.
Definitely YES YES YES
After the kids much?
Nobody mentioned the 9000 children 'treated' at the now disgraced GIDs/Tavistock. That's why this matters so much.
You can tell the polititians in the room. When asked a simple question, they can't or won't answer it. What is the contested theory? Hang on I will get out my big book of ideology to see what the politically correct answer is at this second.
If they stop teaching this shit in Schools , most Kids wouldn't give it a seconds thought , Schools are planting this in their heads , & Kids being Kids are playing along with it , & taking the mince out of their Teachers.
Fiona Bruce explaining what the Cass review is 😂😂😂
Kids wouldn’t even know about being born in the wrong body if teachers weren’t suggesting it. As soon as there’s a hint a child has gender dysmorphia there should be very good counselling and therapies available. We’re living in a very sick world where adults want to sexualise children.
I had a comment deleted and got a warning because of it, all I asked was oh wait I cant lol.
What do you mean "got a warning"?
I've had plenty of comments deleted and several accounts banned as a result of comments but never got any warning.
I have - I told yt to f o😅
The contested theory of gender ideology is everything. The contested belief of gender identity is the mantra "transwomen are women".
After the Covid debacle, if you’re alarm bells aren’t ringing when the talking heads say ‘trust the experts’ there’s no hope for you.
All sex education should be banned in schools. It is the parents' responsibility to educate their children on the subject. Indoctrination by teachers for political reasons is unacceptable.
Better yet offer these classes to PARENTS instead. Basic reproductive biology, stds, recognizing predatory behavior, and encouraging children to turn to their parents for values based questions makes more sense.
Steven Flynn's face was like thunder when the question was asked, but whoever plucked that Tory spokesperson from a McJob somewhere owes him a pint. I've never heard such a flailing, ill-informed response since Primary School book report.
He thinks he's got away with it: then Salmond gets his turn. And Salmond HAS done the reading.
Out of all the issues in the world debating this just shows what a bokers 1st World country we have become. Thank God England has got it right.
What has happened to reading, writing and arithmetic?
Steven….why are your children going to be spending most of their time (in your words) with teachers rather than you??? A week has 168hrs…..you children are at school 25hrs per week of that…school is open for 190 days of 365 days a year…..you may want to think this through mate….whose talking to your children about sex & gender if not you???
😮
He sounds like he wants to be relieved of his responsibilities as a parent and leave it to others, rEdgard less of how poorly educated the "experts" are or how ideologically captured they are by ano unevidenced philosophy
Opryland which has plenty of evidence of hurting people.
Excellent comment by Alex S. Only reliable speaker at that table.
This discussion epitomises why I’m not voting….what the actual fuck…I was born a boy but I identify as a girl…I’m lost
Why did we have a Pakistani running the SNP, and another Pakistani running Labour?
What a load of bollocks.
It's really easy. Contested information cannot be taught in schools as fact or as the prevailing view of the national culture, at any level. Perhaps for older school kids and in FE careful classroom discussions might be had on ideas about gender (masculine/feminine spectrum) and sexuality. Why not.
But teaching, or even suggesting, that sex is anything other than a biological, binary fact (male/female), and that people can change between sexes just by saying so, is dangerous fantasy that often leads to longterm psychological problems for untreated dysmorphia/dysphoria and even physical harm.
So yes, age appropriate, balanced discussion for older learners on gender and sexuality, with biological facts being taught as such.
Although I fear it's too late for HE, as universities' humanities faculties are the root cause of the rise of militant identitarianism, where the aim is no longer learning, it's indoctrination into the postmodernist, neo-Marxist cult (of which trans ideology is but one tenet). I think the UK HE system is beyond help in this respect.
Yes.let kids be kids
Yes.
Yes
Alex Samoan seems to be the only one talking anything close to sense.
Definitely should be banned
But they won’t, because the dreaded greens have a distinctly creepy obsession with children. Strange then, that they act like such children.
Ian Dale is not an unbiased person on this issue. He has, shall we say, certain preconceived ideas about sexuality. And it is completely incorrect to say that Section 28 (or Clause 4 in Scotland) banned the mention of the word 'homosexuality' in the classroom. But that is the kind of inaccurate information you will get from people with a certain preconceived background. And why was he on the panel, anyway?
If the FATHER or MOTHER says no ,then it's a no ,,period ,,
Parents has a different meaning ,
This will become a generation of regret. Stop messing with out children's heads. Teach maths and English.
The answer to your question is YES
Yes
Yes.