I think a lot of people (especially recent viewers) are missing the point of this video. I intended this to be a self-satire of my own ignorance being bluepilled. I hoped viewers would see a reflection of themselves from my perspective. I thought this would allow viewers who found themselves in similar situations to realize "going the friend route" is not a viable option to date women. I did my best to articulate the lessons learnt at the end of the video and think it goes without saying this wouldn't happen to me again.
It came across as you being butt hurt, not self aware. She wanted an emotional tampon, not someone to fuck. You weren't wrong to like her, you were wrong to stay in a one sided situation blue pill or otherwise. I've been there man and I can relate.
Dreams and truth are one and the same thing. "The simulacrum is never what hides the truth - it is truth that hides the fact that there is none. The simulacrum is true." -- Jean Baudrillard.
@@samroot I wonder if Chad was a nice guy would they still be with him? I think it's an obvious yes. But he won't be like that because he's too egotistical knowing he's the shit and all. Red pillers will say they'll get tired of his personality since it's too beta and being a nice guy isn't respected because you'll often make irrational decisions during the relationship because you're afraid of hurting the woman's feelings. Real men need to make the right decisions during a relationship and the women will later realize that during her emotional state you indeed did the right thing and that'll earn you respect. But obviously only when it's called for. Not being an a#shole for the sake of it and getting your own way because you think being toxic 24/7 is the right way to go and it's 'Alpha'. Obviously no one's perfect and can't get it always right and I feel the more attractive you are the more leeway you have. I think even if the Chad was somehow beta he'd still be able to keep the girl even if he's not as respected. But I would need to see studies. And the only time I could see a Chad having a beta personality is pretty boys. Like Shawn Mendes.
No surprise. I am a 61 year old man who was average by all means in the 80s. I went through that friend zone crap. I found it interesting that in my forties, I had more success with women. I worked out and had a good job. I hate growing old, as we all do, but I do not miss those days as an average Joe kicked into the friend zone orbit by average women. Cheers to Wheat Waffles for warning young men what to look out for. He knows what he is talking about, guys.
as an experienced male, do you ever suggest still to work out and get a muscled body even though that just mean to attract average / below average looking girls ? You come from a different and more traditional era where women were dating only by real life, through social circles and mostly to sustain a family thanks to the man. Nowadays the vast majority of women can be independant by themselves, besides earning the same or even more money than the same men. So in this 2020 decade women are more shallow and willing to go for only the most attractive genetics from men... This guy from video is not even exaggerating a fact that have pretty much existed since the beginning of ages: the fact women go for the most genetically attractive males... So that's my question. Several dudes that spread out those black/red pill messages tend to say to work out but even if that just means attracting from 0 girls to just average or below average looking girls. Is that even worth it at all ?
@@naam4769 Well, yes. It is worth it to better mysrelf. Because even if I were 35, this would still be a problem. I just cannot look at myself in the mirror as a fat slob. Nor do I like the feel of being out of shape. Everyone is different. You make great points. I cannot give you advice to the problem of hypergamy. It has always existed, but now it is out of hand. Every woman thinks she deserves a Brad Pitt with lots of money. As late as 55, I had a really good girlfriend. Once you hit sixty, it gets pretty impossible. I am being honest with you. I guess to sum it up, I feel bad for guys now in their twenties, thirties, and forties because they are swept aside. At least I was given a fighting chance twenty and thirty years ago. I don't have an answer fot the hypergamy problem now. Nobody does. The credo is "go your own way". But that is easier said than done.
@@jonirving5606 Your opinion is certainly very valuable. Not very often I can see old mine, better off said "life experienced males" that can see the "dating market situation" that exists nowadays in 2020 decade with all the technology available for humanity. Like literally, about 25 years ago started a whole new revolution to interact within human beings and getting sex-affection from the opposite gender have changed very dramatically. But specially since the past decade and the massive expansion of social media. My point with this last paragraph is the fact, there's no experience, no data, no way to compare this very new way to mankind to get dates in all history of humanity. The way people could find genetically attractive people, specially w0m3n since more than 25 years ago is completely different now. This guy from the video and many other red/black pillers don't even exaggerate to say that in this age, a very average looking female can have over like 300 dudes who will ego boost her for free on any social media and she may start thinking within her delusions that she's an actual model or porn-like woman. There're so many brain d3ad men out there that will give their time, attention and money for free to any random woman on the internet. I'm 32 years old but I was always out of shape and wanted to know from you if was actually worth it in the end to get on shape, because I have experienced as a kid and teen, the transition from real life dating to the very massive online dating up to these days. It was already hard when I was a kid and teen because I know as a male, always have been way but way harder for a man getting sex or dates with a woman, even without the internet. Now nowadays, I can see completely delusional and unattractive woman only wanting porn-like or magazine model type of men which, unfortunately many of us CANNOT even aim to, because of basic stuff like height. My father is 78 years old and from what he have said to me, he used to conquer my mother the same traditional and old way as always males have had to do that is ego-boosting her non stop when he was around his 20 and 30s. In theory, I understand what always have been made by males: The fact they give so much ego-boosting and self-esteem for free to any random and specially average looking woman that, in the end they tend to submit to the male persistence to get sex, marriage or dates. "Simping" as it is called nowadays, have always existed from what I could have analyzed from other eras, but the problem is now the most distant ugly and weird unattractive male in the most long distant corner of the Earth, will aim to free ego-boosting to any random female he finds on a social media network. It's a problem that males have not only in Human race but have existed since billions of years. Would you think the sexual market would get any better if men just stop doing this behavior massively ? It's unfortunately this classic and traditional behavior from men that nowadays make most of women think they're super models, no matter if they're on like 400 lbs (or 250kilograms+), or have zero curves or unattractive faces.
@@naam4769 Yes. Simping is a problem. You are better off being your own man with no sex except for one or two prostitutes per month. Many men who simp are the problem. They need to stop it. Most of them will not because they fall for that BS that women give them.
If a woman doesn’t demonstrate in fact she’s into you by her actions ( being affectionate, physical touch, genuine smile, etc.) she is probably just using you for emotional support or certain resources... if I notice she is not demonstrating these attributes I drop them immediately... you don’t want to waste your time and be used!
@@howmathematicianscreatemat9226 - I don't think it was his "mistake". it was an error, due to society. The difference between 'error' and 'mistake': A 'mistake' is usually accidental, you know it is wrong. Otherwise, an 'error' is usually made due to the lack of knowledge and is more formal than a 'mistake'. He, and 99% of men out there, at one point, did believe that being the man who is emotionally available is what helps create a good relationship, and to try harder. A mistake happens with a few guys, yet I can bet with certainty that EVERY MAN has been in Wheat Waffles spot at one point in their lives, chad or not. We didn't come up with this idea out of our ass. This was an idea that was crafted, carefully, but society and no one tells you otherwise until it's too late, or we find out the hard way. To blame wheat for something that pretty much the world around him suggested something that wasn't, is ludicrous. is like blaming a person for doing something that he was told was legal, then come to find out it actually was illegal. However, the best lessons are the ones we learn firsthand.
@@howmathematicianscreatemat9226 his looks was it. You think him avoiding getting used will make the girl wet and come running to him? You're delusional bro. Most probably she would've moved on in that case. So yeah he fucked up by getting used by her. But at best his only option was not getting used, that's it. He was never gonna get her anyway.
i kinda cuddled with a girl at a party during a game (non related to the game tho) and then hung out alone with her in the garden, i justed wanted to get blown but then she adressed my with "bro", i immediately called her out on it, politely refused to further chill with her in the garden and went back inside the party
It's all halo effect. Terms like confidence, behavior, personality etc. don't have a concrete meaning...you know why? Because they are abstract things. It's all subjective. You can't define a set of behaviors and put it under "good personality". It all depends on the perception of women. Plus there is study where they plotted looks vs pesonality on a graph. There is a strong correlacion between the 2. So yeah, Personality = looks.
In my late teens I had a crush on a girl and became her close friend. I basically experienced the same. She always told me how nice I am and that I need a girlfriend because a good guy like me would make a woman very happy. During this time she had an attractive boyfriend and always complained about what a jerk he is. When she finally broke up with him I hoped that we can become a couple. So I bravely asked her if she could imagine us together. She was surprised and said: I like you very much but not in a romantic way. Let's just stay friends. Then she started dating other attractive guys who were jerks and idiots, too and always complained about them when being with me. Then she came together with one of them and he didn't like me so she ended our friendship. Seems like every 'nice' guy has to go through shit like that.
@@JackoBanon1the most brutal thing isn’t even getting rejected, but her ending the friendship despite everything she told you, just to submit to some random chad💀
Let's be honest, men are absolutely no different. Initial attraction is based on looks. No one wants to have sex with someone they aren't attracted to. For hookups, personality doesn't really matter either for men or women. But for actual healthy relationships, it does. And who knows how tall/short/hot/ugly Mr waffles is. Perhaps it wasnt his looks that turned homegirl off, perhaps it was all the simping/lack of frame. Or here is another hot take, if this girl was really a plutonic friend, he would be stoked about hooking two friends up. The lesson here is if you want to date a girl, either make a move or back off and let her be. Don't be the orbiter, since girls know your intentions anyway, and see your passivity as unattractive. It's clear they aren't actually friends (he would be an emotional tampon without getting anything in reciprocation. Girls can be cool, girls can be friends. Having girls you DONT want to hook up with is still good, assuming A) there is actually friendship (common interests, they don't talk your ear off on stupid shit, etc) and B) you aren't an emotional tampon. Having girls who are actual friends is useful. They make good wingmen. They put in a good word to you to their friends (who you CAN hook up with). The way I see it, the mistake here is that he wanted to date this girl, but wasn't up front about it. If he did ask her, and she wasn't into it, he probably should have cut her off (since she doesn't sound particularly interesting, or interested in reciprocating friendship). Additionally, waffles shouldn't be getting butthurt his attractive friend got a girlfriend. Either it worked out. And his friend found a new serious girlfriend, or it didn't work out, and when waffles gets an ear load from homegirl to complain, he gets to laugh at her, demean her, point out her weaknesses etc, instead of simping. Maybe he didn't get the girl he wanted, but he can at least get vindication knowing at least he wasnt another notch for a Chad. Do looks matter? For hookups, of course. Good looking people get more casual sex. But it's not that important. Here's why: A) assuming you aren't a savage, you are wearing a condom, and sex with condoms is on par with sex with your hand. You aren't missing much. B) if you need to get your validation from a teen/twenty something girl, your internal frame is broken. Woman notice looks sure, but frame matters more over the long term. On average, I know plenty of average guys with decent or hot girlfriends. They aren't models, but they are not fat, make money, have personality, and don't take shit. You have absolute control over those items. Women get their self-esteem from their looks (only), that's why many are shitty and weak people. Men get their self-esteem not from looks, but from their confidence to control the world around them. Get out and do something in the world, don't be insecure about your looks (since you don't have control over much of it) C) if you don't want to be judged on your looks, maybe don't judge girls on theirs. If your self esteem is so low that you are "blackpilled", maybe just date an ugly fat girl who has a nice personality. Date in your lane (have realistic expectations). One last thing. Don't forget, women really only have their looks. So yes, in their 20s, they will have more power on the world than a guy in her 20s. But the script flips over time. You will only get richer and more respected with time and success, while the same can't be said for women. Case in point, myself. 35 years old. Five foot 2 inches. Bald. Small penis. I have some muscle since I lift, but not cut (around 20% bf). My verbal game is average (I can be funny/witty/sharp, but not all the time). My 20s sucked ass with women. Now, in my 30s I barely have to try. I did NOT get better looking. What happened is every women in their 30s or late 20s gets really desperate. Every single girl at my office has made a move on me (I disregard them, dont shit where you eat). I have a good job. I own a house. Alot of girls see me as a beta provider. But that's ok, since I know where they've been in their 20s and chuck em just like Chad would. I guess what I am saying is that on the short term, yes, looks/money/status matter. But as long as you stay on your grind and focus on the things that you should (focus on your health, friendships and career) then shit will come full circle for you as a man. You may not evolve into a Gigachad, but you will be successful in life and you WILL have options assuming your life is generally on point. And if none of that works for some reason, take a cheap flight down to Mexico or Thailand etc, and just pay for hookers. Once you bang through a couple 19 year olds, you realize that sex is the only weapon women have over men. And once you grind out a few lays in rapid succession, it's power over you diminishes. I would almost argue that sex with a prostitute is about the most open and honest relationship you can have with a women. You give them money, and they pretend to be attracted to you. No different than how rich men pick up trophy wives, just cheaper. Regardless of how you feel on prostitution, the point being is sex becomes less validating the more you have. So pay for it if you have to so you aren't blowing your time and money chasing shitty women with beat up twats. I guess the only "blackpill" truth I have come to terms with is that beyond teenage/puppy love that first happens when you are young, all relationships after that are transactional. A girl is trading her value (looks/sex/propogation value), for yours. I wasn't born good looking (I'm the definition of Manlet/jacked bald dwarf), but I have some money and status at age 35. Some people have an easier time if born tall and good looking. But everyone is born with something. I know good looking people with the IQ of a jackfruit. Girls notice them, but lose interest since their personality is shit and so is their game. Final counterpoint. As a man, would you be happy if your girlfriend ONLY liked you for your looks? Being noticed for your looks is as equally unfulfilling as being liked for your money or status. Or another way to say it is while you may not like being friendzoned, how do you think it feels to be a girl who is constantly fuckzoned. It's still shallowness. Looks/money/status/game may increase the number of women in your life, but it probably won't increase your happiness, your self-esteem, or help you appreciate a high quality female when one finally walks into your life. Not all that glitters is gold, and heavy is the head that wears the (Chad) crown. Sincerely, An older, bald dwarf who still pulls girls (by having money, treating girls indifferently/not simping and generally grabbing life by the horns instead of worrying if I am ugly or short). Put the work into yourself. It may not make you a Chad/lady killer, but you will be much happier with yourself and with life, and you will at least attract SOMETHING. And who knows, maybe If you become so interesting and cool, a girl may actually like you for who you are! Just kidding, we all know that is impossible. Personality only matters in true love, and true love is fake if redpill/blackpill is to be believed.
@@jeminigemi 100% we live the truth, attraction is first and foremost but I've dumped girls often for trash personalities. So might not be the same, a girl would put up with a bad personality for looks, a guy would not.
Before I watched red pill content, one of my teachers in college was the one who opened my eyes. I dont recall The specific topic he was talking about but it included the 80-20 rule. then he took the 80-20 rule to dating and he told the men of my generation are going to have a hard time dating because women dont need provisioners anymore. He said this in front of the class and everyone was intrigued. No one took it personally cause we all loved him, by far one the best teachers ive met. Edit: He was first talking about the wealth distribution in the world and that the gap keeps on growing
@@alexgear959 Took a course in something something "Evolutionary somethingsomething humans" (Yes, I didn't care too much, it's a decade ago and I didn't even take the exam, sue me). At some point it got to the mating selection process. Prof stated a womans needs in that regard being basically good genes and a provider. After a 3 second pause he added "Those two things do not have to be provided by the same person" in the dryest tone ever. I couldn't belive nobody burst out laughing in a room of 100 people. Prof stating Alpha fucks, Beta bucks :>
I would pick a front row seat and crack a nice cold one open and grab me some popcorn to watch the best show ever. But society please hurry up I'm already 48, 'cause I don't want to run to the can after each beer I drink 😂
@@michaelmccorkle2544 i am speaking about the inevitable downfall of humanity due to climate warming, overpopulation, lack of natural resources like petrol or coal...
@@m.d.hofman4236 That's why I pick something thats 80 proof, then I can just sip slowly and get the same buzz over time factor as beer without having the take glugs and keep running to the can every 30 minutes.
Especially if you are only friends with her for that reason. Either be honest about your intentions and move on when she friendzones you or just don't bother letting her into your life. This is the type of shit that happens to men when they are 16 and you should grow out of. Sad that this is how we are raised.
Very true! Guys keep complaining about the girls, but if she clearly comunicates her intentions ( just friends ) and you continue acting as a friend, you are the one frustrating yourself, not her. If a girls wants to be with you, she'll be with you. If in doubt, get out!
Twist to the story: Bella meets Jason's friend Dave, an even taller super chad. She tries to monkey branch to Dave. He pumps and dumps her. She goes back to Jason begging for a second chance but he refuses to take her back. They all move on. Life goes on. Many years later Bella, edging close to the wall reappears in waffles life fishing for a ring.
I myself am 5ft6 and have not in past been very successful with women. Three years ago I took up salsa dancing and became very good at it , and it did help improve my love life a lot , so good social skills and game do help mitigate being short and average looking. But six months before covid struck this really good looking guy started showing up at my salsa club , he could not dance well and stood in the corner by himself and did every thing these dating coaches tell you is the wrong thing to do . But these girls did not care , they followed to wherever he was and desperately wanted to help him with his shyness and teach him to dance. Watching how girls behaved around him was a big lesson , so yes if you are good looking that’s all you need to get the girls.
just look at the meekspill. a career criminal gets his mugshot posted online and goes from gutter trash to high class socialite overnight. he's set for the rest of his life solely off of looks. i wonder how the kid who he beat the shit out of feels about it, has to be one of the biggest blackpills ever swallowed.
And they want a “problem” to “fix” so to themselves feel superior, call life “worth living”, slay-uh I mean aBoRT-a kid or 2 cause she can, and then teach like-philosophies to her 1 or 2 living kids
Been Married for 16 years not once did my wife say . I fell in love with your personality. She said It's was my height ,face and my deep voice. I'm no Chad but I'm a little more than a Normie, but not by much.
So true. Once you are married/have a girlfriend it becomes so much easier to see the blackpill. My gf is relatively friendly, but she is literally repulsed by shorter/uglier men, and likewise finds attractive guys to be "so nice and so friendly" without ever speaking to either. It's insane
I have never heard a woman say she chose her husband based on values, morality or behavior. It's always boils down to butterflies, one way or another. Even if it's not looks, it's "how he made me feel".
This is why I say: If women wanted to be in your life, they would be. Pursuing them is a punishing waste of time. You're better off forgetting about the whole thing.
@@gabeo9474 yeah because it's human nature. Both genders experience it. Men aren't special. You're not the only one experiencing it. Women go through it too.
This is your biggest black pill experience? Dude I've been stood up, insulted, asked girls out and then ghosted, openly ridiculed, being told directly that they would love to bang my brother instead of me etc.. This wouldn't make my top ten. But cool story and analysis.
Honestly bro, I know this story is brutal, but the situation was for your own good. There is no reason to have female friends, all they will do is spill their emotional baggage onto you and complain to you about why chad didn’t text her back. It’s not worth it bro.
@@ClothesIWear woman helped me a lot when Men ignored me, indeed they can help you and teach you a lot, I am a former mentalcel (near autistic spectrum) that were lucky to be babyseated by woman on How social games work and how to behave. So indeed they are good friends If you want only friendship and not disguise yourself as a sheep to try to smash them
Im not even joking this exact same thing happened to me. I was hanging out with a girl (yes I liked her) for around a year. Then I become friends with this one dude who isn't quite a chad but probably a 7.5. She starts talking to him more...one week later BOOM! new couple.
Classic friend-zone - girl cleverly gives guy the duties of being a boyfriend but with none of the benefits (and slyly leads him on so he believes he has a chance and stays in her friend-zone of his own choice). All guys should be taught about this from a young age. Thanks for sharing.
@@friedchickenlover7291 she knew that he was attracted. To her and didn’t see her as a friend but as a romantic interest but she sort only to use him for emotional support and security which was all she thought of him.
@@ianarn He said she clearly friendzoned him. It's literally his fault for being a simp and just hoping shed change her mind. He should've realized he was gaining nothing from this friendship and cut her off.
Yeah I wonder why they don't straight up teach this shit in schools. Instead they sell these dreams and let men learn the hard way and get damaged along the way. Maybe it's just that society is constructed so that men are taught to serve 🤔 There's a saying in my country "there's a woman behind everything".
People really dismiss the emasculating and denigrating nature of friend zoning. It’s all the comments and subtle behaviors that cast you as a complete non-sexual entity.
Because most girls don't want a man who doesn't love, trust or have confidence in himself. "Cool" people have those characteristics that's why they express themselves fluidly and boldy because they are confident that what they have to say is valuable (even if it might not be)
This is a brutal truth I learned being a very late bloomer. After years and years of being completely overlooked, I went into a military environment after High School and my body just totally transformed. Guess what happened. Suddenly women started treating me differently. I've seen both sides and looks count the most.
@@jubacelmesias1154 what? Women and men do that because its simple biology . People are naturally attracted to attractive people . Nothing to do with men starting this whole thing.
My first girfriend after 2 years of being together looked directly in my eyes and with most honest smile in the world said: "I don't love you anymore". Then she said she must go. Her new boyfriend was waiting for her at the street corner. I will never forget this smile. It teached me more about women than every red pill book.
A woman I loved and was there for her after her divorce held off sex for the last few weeks of our relationship, then 3 weeks after my dad died of covid, she made out with me in a public place, and when it got REALLY steamy, I suggested going to hers, and she said "I can't, I'm sorry if I lead you on". A few weeks later I was at hers and she said "I'm worried about you being here because you don't respect my boundaries". I discovered she was already seeing someone else. I dealt with 3 more deaths after that. It's been almost 8 months, I haven't heard from her.
"I know you're going to find a good girlfriend one day, and I know you're going to make her so happy." The same worn out, tired line that women love to use to pretend that they hope for your happiness, when in reality they don't.
That's true. In reality they hope you never find a girl, so you can give her all that free attetion and validation. If you find a girl, they will chase you, that would be the only way to leave that friendzone.
That is why we should respond in this way, if a girl says to us similar things : " I give you the mission to find me such a girl! Lets see what you will do for your old trusty guy-friend dear ", and carefully monitor their face and what she will respond. I bet you : the way she will react will make it clear that she does not intend to help you at all, most probably she will sabotage you. That is why if you start flirting a girl, you never tell it to any female friends you happen to have. Basically do not trust those female friends. Basically not even have female friends. Just treat them as female acquaintances, that you will use to observe the behavior of women and learn from them. Consider your self as a scientist every time you interact with them, and also use them by going out with them, just so that other girls see you with some female, and start thinking that "ok , this man is not a creep, he has the acceptance of another woman, it is obvious that they are not a couple, but at least he is not socially a failure, so if he comes in a few months to flirt me, I will give him some chance...".
If she really thought he was that great, she would hook him up with all of her girlfriends, until one of them appreciated him. But no, its just empty words, its a lie. What she really means is you dont make my 😺 wet, but i still want to use you.
This is the exact same realization I had in my 30s after years of struggling with women. I have a nice face, but I'm 5'5' and skinny. Since I wasn't hideous or threatening, women were always nice to me. However, I could never get to first base with any of them. Nearly all the women I asked out in college told me no. I only had one date in college! Just ONE!!! I was always told "You are a nice guy, but I just don't think of you that way." The reason I found this confusing is because I had been told all of my life that women don't care about looks as much as men and that women cared more about personality and whether a husband would be a good provider or not. I foolishly thought that I could compensate for being short and skinny by being intellectually gifted and professionally successful. WRONG!!! That might have been true in another era when women were economically dependent on men. However, that isn't true anymore. Being smart or having a good career doesn't make a woman tingle in her va-jay-jay. A woman won't 'settle' for an average looking guy with a good career anymore because she doesn't have to get married to be economically secure. Women joining the workforce is the single worst thing that has ever happened to men. I really wish I had been told the truth when I was young rather than wasting so much time chasing after girls who never were interested in me to begin with. I wish I had just focused on myself and on making as much money as possible.
"because she doesn't have to get married to be economically secure." They think that till it's time to retire. "Women joining the workforce is the single worst thing that has ever happened to men. " Try women's rights etc. as a whole and you've cracked the code. "I wish I had just focused on myself and on making as much money as possible." Based. Never too late.
The saying goes, The truth will set you free but eventually it will hurt. Then Catharsis comes in and finally your new life begins. I wish someone would’ve been brutally honest with me as well, so much energy wasted.
The best thing a man can do is focus on himself. Get a career make money. Work out for years, possibly take peds. Taking peds and working out are two of the most effective ways you can increase your muscle mass and thus masculinity and attractiveness to women for most men. You do that and when you hit your prime in your later 20s all of a sudden women everywhere want you including hot young teens that you were once invisible to growing up. Meanwhile women your age are hitting the wall and their power and pretty privilege has dried up.
Wemen lie. They tell you that your a a nice guy but they aren't interested to avoid hurting your feelings. Because most wemen are virtue signalers. They lie because reputation and feelings are important to them. They are too afraid of being hurt or hurting others to speak the truth. They lie and say what they think society wants to hear to avoid looking shallow and out of the fear your unstable and will stalk them or be clingy if they say no, but in reality if they tell you that your nice it means they just aren't physically into you. Its the same reason why men lie about being attracted to younger women. Because society will shame them for it. And some moderator or an A.I algorithm must have deleted this original post because they knows its true and it triggered them. Its the same reason wemen will come up with any rationalization or excuse possible to justify dumping a man or not dating him. Leaving the man confused and thinking shes crazy, but shes not crazy, just a liar. But the real simple truth is she just isn't into that guy physically. The problem men face is they tend to not be liars, and tend to take things literally. So they struggle to read women who are natural born liars. A man needs to learn how to pick up on social cues and read between the lines. Watch what she does and read her body language and voice tonality, Ignore what she says and watch what she does. Thats hard for men especially if you are borderline aspergers due to vaccine damage at a young age like many young men are now a days. Most women dont end up autistic like boys because their blood brain barrier is stronger then boys so the vaccines don't damage them the way they do boys.
@@grantwithers Women joining the work force isn't just the worst thing to have happened to men, its the worst thing that has happened to women as well. Its a scam, they were tricked, manipulated, brain washed into thinking slavery to a corporation is freedom. And that marriage and motherhood is somehow patriarchy. Its all psychological operations or mind control.
I knew this at a young age and got made out to be a Narcissist and shit. Trust me, they WILL fight it back. These women will DESTROY a intelligent/empathic man over what they have done/created. They don't care
He is nearly spot on. I had a friend. Tall, dark and handsome. He made ZERO efforts in meeting females. He always got approached. I was with him when he met his wife. Him and I were at a place called Slam Jams. Typical pub. Standing around, talking. A person came up to my friend and said that their friend wanted to talk to him. She left a group of 10 people to be with my friend until close time. He asked me to drive her home. She was so enamored with his looks, she trusted 2 guys she never knew to drive her home. I pulled into a mansion that her parents lived in. He looked at me, and said I am going to marry this girl. 26 years later. This is the same guy that strippers used to want to see him for FREE after their shift. He had the IT factor. Looks most definitely MATTER!
I agree, but if he was effeminate, or came across autistic, he'd likely be the guy that women chatted with for 10 minutes and that was it. He had to be at least "medium masculine/medium normal" in his demeanor to have real success with women, even with great looks. That's my opinion anyway.
He's on another level, like 11+. I've only had two stripper girlfriends. I suppose I could have had more, but I prefer women who aren't in that kind of business.
The important lesson of your story is to immediately dump a girl who puts you in the friend zone. You need to maintain your self-respect. Don't hang around hoping she will be attracted to you one day. If she doesn't give you signals of interest within a week or two, she sees you as her beta male backup plan. If you are not her first choice, don't be her last.
Exactly my experience! I had a 3 year younger female best friend in highschool. Met her on the bus to school and from that point onwards I actually liked the bus ride a lot. We could talk about anything and have fun. I had a male friend, who despite being rather short and feminine looking behaved like a real chad and never had trouble with girls. His 3 year younger brother was in the same class as my female friend and he told me that practically all the girls in the class were in love with this older brother, my friend. My friend was always mean to my female friend, he really disliked her for some reason. One day I decide I want to take it a step further and, being the naive INTJ I was back then, I told her I loved her and how meeting her made me like the crowed bus ride to school and that I wanted her to be my girlfriend. At first she thought I just ment that I liked her as a friend but when she realised that I wanted her as my GF, at first she "ran away" and started avoiding me, making the ride and walk to school very awkward. I decided to force her to talk to me since at that point I decided I'd rather have her as a friend than nothing at all. She told me she'd never love me and never will, but really liked me as a friend. A week later she herself asked my friend out on a date. Ignoring that he had always made clear he disliked her. He thus agreed to her date, watching a movie at the cinema, and stood her up; watching from around the corner to see how long she'd wait. She waited outside for an hour after the movie started before starting to cry in public and calling her mother to pick her back up. He found it funny. I felt sorry for her and would have kept her as a friend; I would often still go pick up her lunch if she had ordered out (she didn't have a pass to leave the schoolgrounds) But since she always kept creating an awkward dynamic between us eventually I stopped making the effort to interact and never spoke again at school nor the bus. Years later I walked into her and she was extremely enthusiastic to see me ... but ... by then I had taken my red pill and just made a default polite conversation before going our own ways again. --- I've never had problems making friends nor female friends ... yet ... not a single girl ever had interest in me romantically. When I tried out online dating and asked for feed back from failed interactions ... it was always the same thing: everything about me is ok (from intellect (I was always the best in class at none-physical stuff) to being tall) ... but ... my face is apparently not attractive. I never disliked my face. It really doesn't look that bad; I use lotions, shave, ... But ... I must agree it's not the build of a typical chad or conventional attractive man. --- I even had a single mom (before my red pill and policy not to date them) who was super into me, ghost me the moment she saw my face. She had even already asked me out on a date but canceled that after seeing my picture while she herself was so worried I would ghost her after seeing hers. She looked super sweet and attractive ... so I guess she must have had self-esteem issues... . Eventually I asked her feedback and she reluctantly honestly told me it was my face. This was the moment all my past rejections fell into place. I took the red pill afterwards and never ever had any success with women until this day. It sucked ... but now I've diverted my funds and life goals towards my hobbies and interests ... I don't even know how I would fit a women taking up 50% of my time into it all XD Most of the time I don't miss them. But ... I will forever hate the society that made me realise that romance is movie make belief, being a gentlemen is outdated and finding the one is a fantasy. By now I can't even bring up the enthusiasm and effort to interact with women with the goal of asking them out. I now know and realise the game is fixed ... and fixed hard against me.
Your experiences are valid brother, keep the focus on you and if you ever need box you just go out and buy, that's the climate today and we as men should take advantage accordingly ✌🏽💯💪🏽.
@@Taurean_SAMA Tbh I wouldn't want to do that even. I would rather use my hard earned money to buy some meds or do something that destroys my sex drive. Sex Drive is the biggest issue and the elephant in the room which goes unnoticed. It is what makes us men attracted to women. I don't think I would ever value female friendships more than the male ones. I truly enjoy my time with my guy friends than the female ones. If there can be proper research done and later develop some sort of a medicine which diminishes your sex drive it would be the best thing. Meds are available for it today too, but their side effects are brutal.
don’t lose hope, be confident you can find the good one for you maybe it wont be a 10/10 but as long as your happy with her. Also I didn’t you talk about going to the gym to get more muscles this will help tou
Three weeks before our wedding, in a group setting, my fiance says, "All men are assholes." I should have heard the record screech and should have seen the gigantic red flag waving in the breeze, but I thought we were in love. One year later, when my brain was shedding the "love chemicals" and things were falling apart I asked her if she still believed that all men are assholes. She denied ever saying it. I wish I had spoken up in that group setting and asked her, "Am I an asshole or am I not a man?"
@@rthelionheart The wedding happened on schedule. A year later when the "love" chemicals in my brain wore off, I realized what a mistake I had made. Tried for two years to make things better, but nothing worked, so divorce. That was a long time ago, though. I should be over it by now, don't you think?
"You are a perfect guy, you are nice, funny, interesting, fun to be around with but I'm not sure about my love for you" My ex told this to me after she started talking to Chad not so long ago.
Everyone gets cheated on eventually,get back out there. The main difference between your average Chad and some black piller is that Chad will be sad for a bit before getting back out.
@@brotherumarj3370 Even Chad's getting cheated on in this day an age, women are extremely narcissistic, instagram tinder etc.. i know chads that getting cheated on. Such is life man.
@@brotherumarj3370 that is the only difference? gtfoh The average guy would be alone and heartbroken for the next 12-24 months. Chad will be texting the next girl on his list and getting laid in 30 min after.
@@SonyCamry Totally true. I know a guy who is a solid 9/10 blonde, blue eyes who got cheated on. Just think about this: if George Clooney got cheated on, what's left to us mortals?
This video reminded me of one story from my high school days: There was a girl who sat behind me in class, and there was another guy who sat behind her. We used to talk about a lot of things and in time, I felled for her. But I noticed how she gradually started to talk more with that other guy and later on, i heard that the two started dating. Around that same time, everyone in class was invited to a party by one of our classmates. And at that party I saw the two kissing and being all lovey-dovey. Seeing the girl that I liked with another guy hitted hard at that time. I cried later that night asking myself why things turned out that way. My 14/15 years old self was pretty clueless. I promised myself, that would be the one and only time I cried for a woman. Looks really matter bro.
@@thetohoapologist4240W. Bro was probably just boring or something. I'm in HS and the amount of average dudes who get with cute girls is staggering. These incel videos would lead you to believe it's not possible. I'm one of those average guys with a pretty lady who most dudes thought was attractive, I literally just was a good person, made her laugh, and invited her out places. Been together for nearly a year now. No clue why this video was on my feed, but I got a good cringe induced laugh from it and that's all that matters.
@@mewa3263your case would be explained by JBF theory (just be first). So you get with a girl who’s relatively new to the dating market as her standards and emphasis on looks aren’t at their peak.
@@ammonia309 you incels have no limit to trying to blame your lack of game, having no enticing skills, being lazy, being in bad shape, having no skin care routine, having a poor sense of style, having a bad attitude, etc on your genetics. Women would like you if you were BETTER. I promise you. Go improve yourself, not only will you be more attractive physically, but also more attractive in emotional and mental intelligence. Some things are genetic, such as being tall and having a "pretty" face (which I got lucky with having both of) but all pretty privilege gets you as a guy is a few comments on your Instagram post and maybe a few people approaching you, but without the rest of it NOBODY is sticking around.
Yes, Brutally dumb. The author takes himself away a lot of chances he would have. He actually almost saw himself what he did wrong: he listened to her problems. For her this was a pushover behavior. THATS WHY he didn’t get her. If he had said that he doesn’t care about her feelings and wants to keep doing his own thing, she would have chase him ! Every single boyfriend of my current 8 looking girlfriend was ugly but every one of them was intelligent. So he should just had done his win thing and shit on her if she shifts on him emotionally. Then he would have easily smashed the hotties. He is an awesome resource manager and resource producer, this is 60% of sexual attraction. If he also learns martial arts, he will be badass with women.
@@medicann_coping you should look up the video - the attraction factor by thinking ape and the wandering wojak. He states that all that matters in life is being genetically attractive.
@Nebojsa Knezevic I think he means looks moulds your personality. Ie good looks gives you validation and makes you confident, egotistical, cocky etc. Which is ideal. Being ugly of course you're gonna be insecure with all the negative reinforcement and a lifetime of being mogged. It'll be hard to come back from that mentally even if somehow your looks magically improved. And this is why looks are everything.
Just ignore any girl who friend zone you, dont give her any attention, don't waste your energy. She showed you a middle finger, you show yours as well that way.
i could write one on my own, i had interesting teenage years (blackpill wise interesting, so not actually interesting) since i discovered this community in my mid teens and a huge struggle my entire teenage years (still actually and probably till i die) knowing this stuff but still trying to force myself on the blue pill, had a ton of brutal experiences this way
@@maonyksmohc9574 i had one bad experience. Middle school i asked this girl out and she said her parents didnt let her date. Next week i come to find out shes dating some tall skinny football player. Was brutal at the time. It is what it is tho. Hs was very different for whatever reason. There were several girls that expressed interest in me but im ugly af so i nvr did sh*t with them on the off chance i was getting played.
Bro, this video is the top black pill video I have seen in all of TH-cam history. Clean, concise, upfront, and real. There’s no twisting around the story to make it sound any different than what you did. For such a long time I’ve had a difficulty trying to explain this situation and you have given me a way to make it understandable for anybody listening, instead of ended up in me being blamed for the problem. I know you’re not into making a profit, but I want to make sure you have the ability to continue making videos! If you have a Patreon bitcoin or Venmo, drop it on the comment I’ll donate a few bucks as thanks.
Something similar happened to me except for the other guy part. It's brutal when they say "I just don't feel that way" or something but then change their behaviour for another dude behind your back.
I know this girl who has a roommate and she told me what the dealbreaker was. He was 2 cm shorter. They study together lol. Must suck for him pretty bad. I've only ever tried with tinder bitches, so I have no idea how it is to be rejected and friendzoned.
This hurts so bad, but it's so true. I'm an average black man. I'm sure I fall into the ugly category, because when I'm out in public, women often times walk to the other side of the walkway. A few women have ran from me. When this happens, I'm not even communicating in body language that I'm going to approach any of these women that run from me. I'm short (5'7"). I'm thin (140lbs.) As I said before, I'm black. If you don't look like a built out complete Tyrone with dreds covered in tatoos, no woman, not even black women will want you. Black men have it the worst, because we're either built the heck out Tyrones or small weaklings that everyone thinks is ill. There was a girl at my church one time that said I look like my arteries are clogged. I hated myself for a long time until I started making money. I still don't get girls, but I indulged in a lot of hobbies and events! I get to keep all my money and I don't have to worry about getting divorce-graped by the courts!
You think you have it worse ? Well i,m a White Guy and i have bad dating experiënce,s whit my own kind . In fact it is my own kind that drove me to black , latina and eastern girls . Where my dating experiënce is a lot better then whit my own kind .
In a way, I'm kind of glad I was socially inept in my teen years because it meant I had no female friends who would do stuff like this. I also had no good looking male friends to make me feel like shit also.
Yeah, if he was a good friend. He would have never asked her out just because she was so close to Wheat. He is obviously attractive enough to pull anyone he wants.
@@thehambone1454 oh trust me, ik what you mean. I have a handsome cousin. We work in the same shop and every girl literally falls over for him. He can have any girl he wants and trust me he tells me the stories of when hes bagging em 😂. I kinda learmed to live with being ugly though. Gotta embrace it. Not everyone can be a winner yk wut i mean?
-Studied for years game, how to hack tinder, photos, how to dress, everuthing -My friend in front of me, "Nahhhh let's check how I do in Tinder". Makes a profile, uploads the first photo, no description. Gets more swipes in 5 minutes than me and my techniques in 4 mounths. (aditionally, women started to talk to him and reply, wich obiously happens to me 1/1000 times) Your channel just tells the truth.
I know it has been a year since this video was uploaded, but this story is so well put together. So well explained. And I can tell it's a real story because of the emotions felt in this man's voice.
It's not friendzone, it's brotherzone, the worst of all the zones. If you get brotherzoned, leave the entire situation immediately. Leave it as if your life depends on it. Spend your time and energy on your family members and male friends instead, they are the only ones who will stand by you no matter what.
Growing up with good looking relatives I have tons of stories like this, and they were worse because I experienced them every single say, I don´t know how I kept on believing it wasn´t about looks for such a long time, I guess media and bluepilled people really did their job on me...
I have this friend who is super attractive, the way he gets treated by women compared to me is so night and day I got pretty depressed (and stayed that way for quite awhile). What’s even crazier is the “bubble” he lived it, he was so use to getting special treatment he didn’t even realize it was special treatment.
When she sent you the pretty snap pic, you should have just said "it's too late. Jason already saw the goofy pic of you. That is now forever his perspective of you"
@@tugs8689 no we dont. chad bros don't need help. in fact, if you have a chad bro, it's YOU who will be misearble all the time, looking at them pumping in a new woman every week, while you get to watch them flirting.
“all men are jerks…no, you’re one of the good ones” is an oxymoron. Unless she specifically says “ones” rather than men which is even worse as that implies she doesn’t see you as a man. Maybe I’m over thinking it but it’s just a thought.
When she said she didn't want anything from you and you knew you want more, you should've gone away. You invested so much emotion into an illusion man.
I had this with at least 4 diffrent girls, and in the end I was tired of just being their "brother" being in the friend zone and jsut gave up and stopped dealing with them and it took away so much stress from my life. and in the end the friendships they were having with me weren't making me better they were often more of a drain so in the long run I was much better off.
And if you ever make them understand that you aren't going to be used anymore as a beta tool, they will simply cut their losses like you were never there. They won't try to "save the friendship" by doing you favors in return, at least not even near what you've done for them, to save the friendship.
@@ParleLeVu Damn, I can't even believe the amount of exact experiences I've had. This simply is universal. Yes the friendship dissolves like it never existed.
I was involved with a woman for 2 1/2 years. She brought unnecessary drama and stress into our relationship. I feel though that as the drama and stress continued, I myself pulled away and did not commit to this relationship. I know that my eventual lack of commitment was part of the problem. But one day her 20's daughter said "Mom, you know how you blow things out of proportion." We broke up for good barely two months later. I do not regret this relationship. I learned from it, and we often had nice days together, but I aged 4 years in that 2 1/2 years.
Solution to this problem: Upon meeting the girl tell her you want to date, if she says no, walk away, if she says yes after a few weeks if she shows little interest walk away. DON'T EVER TRY TO BE FRIENDS WITH HER IN HOPES OF A RELATIONSHIP, IT IS A TRAP, SHE KNOWS WHAT YOU WANT, BUT SHE WILL TRY AND SUCK UP ALL THE ATTENTION AND RESOUCES SHE CAN GET FROM YOU LIKE VAMPIRE. AS WELL AS BOYFRIEND TREATMENT, WITHOUT ANY EFFORT ON HER PART. IF YOU CALL HER OUT ON HER BULLSHIT, SHE WILL CLAIM SHE HAD NO IDEA YOU FELT LIKE THAT AND SAY SHE JUST WANTS TO BE FRIENDS AND MAKE YOU OUT TO BE GIANT ASSHOLE. DON'T DO THIS TO YOURSELF.
The illustrious Jordan Peterson once uttered the following which truly encapsulates the friendzone dynamic: "Mother nature in the guise of that particular woman has said: you're not so bad for a friend but there is no reason that your genetic material should propagate itself into the future".
@@ilikepancakes2368 Harsh as it sounds, should such women be sold into sexual slavery? It's a rather violent way for them to check their privilege; not all women in the world have the option of actively rejecting male attention.
And Men do the same thing, to girls they are willing to fuck, but not date... very same shit. She is good enough to make you come, but not good enough for any relationship.
What most young dudes miss the most, in the Western Society, is a good life coach to give them a good reality check while they are still teenagers. I'm 50, and I wish I knew many things I learned late in my life (even over 40) about the relations between men and women. It would have made a big difference in my life, and I'm pretty sure it is also the case for many other guys in the World.
@C-Dun Fitness I don't know how old you are, but if you don't do it already, work out in a gym, take martial arts classes, jog... Put yourself in a better shape and you will get more selfconfidence.
@C-Dun Fitness Good! Try martial arts too. I began training in Kyokushin Karate at 48. It's tough, but it is worth it. You can also try any other (Boxing, Jiu Jitsu, etc.)
I was brutally heightpilled multiple times throughout my life. I've heard girls saying to me "you're short" a lot. At it was basically all about my height, since, thank god, I've got quite attractive face. But even that is not enough since the height is a basis to start with.
clearly depends on how u react to her comment from my exp girls ive dated had bf eho were 6 ft and taller and mentioned they like tall guys multiple times before we dated. Im 5"4 short guy
Reach your physical genetic potential, aim for 11-14% body fat and make more money, and make sure you do that for yourself, not for women. Do that and you will attract women naturally, and even if you don't, your life will become more enjoyable.
@@sakshambishalgurung8350 "clearly depends on how u react to her comment" -> *no it does not dip-sheit it is all on her, she made the call in her head nothing one can do from there...*
I never, ever try to be a friend with a girl if i'm romantically interested in them. Of course, i will be friendly with them if i see them at work, a party or in public. But if they don't go for you after the 2nd date, move on. Don't waste your time and effort, they won't change their mind (most of the time).
Learned this the hard way too, anyone telling you “well looks aren’t everything” is lying to your face. It’s crazy how accurate this story is to mine, I eventually got tired of it and ignored her messages, She’s still sending me snapchat messages to this day to no avail, and I do not plan on opening them anytime soon. It hurt though, she was one of the most beautiful women I’ve seen, but life must go on. Might sound cliche, and it is, but there are more fish in the sea.
I've been ugly all my life and I can confirm, the more you try the more you hate yourself for being ugly, just stop trying and live alone, that's all the life has to offer to us, ugly people. Love doesn't require efforts. Impossible quest leads to suffering. Keep in mind most of ugly people are acting nice because they haven't the choice, nice people are the ugly ones.
@@SuperAnimecity No reason. I've clicked on your channel and you seem really nice. Do you live in a small city or something, because most guys are super easy to get. Even I got asked out by a few and I'm a guy (not flexing, but I wish i was bi, or asexual). The majority of men are simps with no sense of self worth who worship anything that resembles a female, and by that I mean they have no looks or personality threshold. I know it sounds outrageous, even I couldn't believe it at first because I'm the same gender so I thought most guys would have similar standards to mine, but I digress. You can type "The Cost OF Craving" and "Forever Alone Women" in the yt searchbox to see the real world statistics yourself.
@@SuperAnimecity Well not exactly interesting, more like a wake-up call. It's not like men don't give certain women a chance to experience romance, so why would you be alone if it isn't by choice just like you claim "I wouldn't want it". As I said before, men as a collective don't have a looks or personality threshold, perhaps I should include health, and stats show that 40% of them can't even get a date in the course of a year even if it would save their life, while almost all women are dating (a smaller pool of guys). Claiming not to desire an intimate relationship used to be my thing as well after I realized it's a lie I told myself out of comfort. "I fantasise about romance, but I don't want it" - I believe that's called cognitive dissonance. It's self deceptive and it may hurt you in the future as you grow older without relationship experience and human closeness.
@@SuperAnimecity you should stay positive, as a guy i couldnt care about looks or anything else but personality. you seem nice and sweet, and i bet you are smart, self aware to be watching these kind of videos. i would be happy to land a date with you, keep your chin up, not saying it will be easy but i think its not impossible for you. if u want to add me on discord ask and ill reply, im from canada so will probably never meet but i know how it feels to be alone, can talk sometime if u ever need id listen.
I enjoyed this video and thank you for sharing. I would disagree with one part: One can change being bald or not. I did with a hair transplant. Best money I ever spent.
So you’re banging not one but two bikini models? But yet you are spending your weekend watching blackpill vids? You should have left your story at the first sentence buddy boyo.
@@jaredprice9753 Yea...ibhave been watching these videos...because I think there is a lot of insight in them. I am NOT saying I'm some sub 5 guy...but I definitely am not a Chad either. I'm short and old. Im a "normie" as they say. But juat because I do OK with the ladies doesn't mean I can't enjoy these videos and learn from them. I think there is lots of truth in the philosophy...and I've learned a lot about women from them.
@@seasonedsaintsmnstry my intuition is telling me you somehow bbuxmaxxed and somehow jestermaxx and sugardaddymaxxed too, Just talking this so the others blackpillers doesnt go to harsh on you
You remind me alot of myself. I've always been this way with women and I have always been their emotional tampon. They would cry on my shoulder and say they wish their boyfriend was like me but yet go back to them after them cheating on them and abusing them. After 30 years of this I naturally became bitter and started to not like women. Oddly once I exuded this new behavior I found them becoming more attractive to me. What I have learned is the less you love them the more they love you and the more you love them the less they love you. There is only one way to a woman's heart and that is to be heartless. They are not attracted to men who have big hearts. They love the men who don't have big hearts.
You “nice guys” are an annoying bunch lol. You were never really nice in the first place. All it took was just one woman to bring that demon out. You’re a hack.
I went through a situation very similar to this, it sucks. I wasted so much time on this girl, I gave her rides places, listened to her every story, offered emotional support, was always there for her, then as soon as she sees one of my best friends she starts dating him. Literally almost exact situation as this video.
Got news for you guys, I've been in a few relationships, longest was 7 years. I got friend zoned about 6 years in!! This shit never changes, just focus on yourself!
The thing is I’m totally fine with how much looks matter. Everyone is entitled to pursue what they find attractive. Just don’t virtue signal and stop lying about it. It’s the hypocrisy I can’t stand.
I kind of agree. The older I get, the more I have come to terms with it. I can't change how I look. However, I'm just tired of society lying to men about it all the time. We men are purposefully lied to all our lives to trick us into sacrificing ourselves for society under the delusion that if we just work hard and build a successful career that there is a cute wife and kids waiting for us at the end of the process. It's all a big lie.
It's disheartening how literally every woman, even the most sensitive and intelligent ones, places so little value on human qualities when it comes to romantic relationships. As an ordinary man with a somewhat insecure and shy personality, I feel hopeless. The only solution I see is to enjoy everything else good that life has to offer me.
exactly, just forget about ever getting in a relationship at this point, if you know it's truly over for you just accept it and try enjoy the rest of everything else there is in life
Not true at all. There are plenty of amazing women out there. Looks are important, but the good women out there will value your chemistry as much as her physical attraction to you.
@@pureintellectualbeing3575 Thanks; the world is brutal. What people need to realize that facts/truth don't care about your feelings. It is what it is!
Mate, as a fellow London average guy I've been through all that stuff. Your diagnosis is spot on. Look forward to hearing your views on the best options for average guys in this climate.
Stick your hobby and male friend with your own thing together. Give no mind and worry for the women because they will never love you ;) blackpill for life bro
The black pill found me. I never could get a woman I wanted interested in me and if I did, she put me in the friend zone or simply used me after I thought she was actually interested. I have come to understand there is no "building of attraction." She either likes you physically or she does not. And God help you if she's ever pretending to find you physically attractive...
I've been a "psychiatrist" to this one girl in university. God she was annoying. The only reason I hung out with her is because I was shy and introverted amd she must have taken this as me being friend material and I was too nervous to decline so for 6 years I had to constantly hear this girl talking about her life and her boyfriend problems while I tried to ignore her. I couldnt say piss off either since she was kinda popular and her notes from class were useful to me.
Yeah damn right because that friendzone crap is just a back up plan she will finally want to be your girlfriend when she is used up and has nothing left just like how Jenny was with Forrest.
I had a similar experience, but years later after losing contact I did get with the girl I simped on for a while with essentially no effort. Still, it taught me that you should never simp, never be a beta orbiter, never allow yourself to be in the friendzone. It's still ok to be friendly with a girl, even to hang out with her, but you can't ever really be her friend. Best thing to do if you're friendzoned is to either cut her off or use her to try to meet her other female friends. Ironically, that's the only thing that might generate attraction. Once she sees you giving her other female friends attention, she'll be jealous and miss your attention. Female jealousy is extremely strong. I think that's the only force that can actually generate at least some degree of attraction while in the friendzone.
I am 71 (so, I have been around). And black. (that is not a 'major factor' in my thinking). I will say, your SUBFIVE seems to 'hit the nail on the head' as far as what attracts women. Being 'nice' through the younger years did not get me good results... I did try in an "assiduous" manner to avoid being the 'guy' that would be talked to about 'her bad' man. Not succeeding all of the time. Yes, I do believe 'looks is everything.' You can be as 'nice' as possible -- but, many young (and sometime older) women are 'bored quite easily with 'nice' guys. By the time the ladies start 'hitting the wall' -- many have been 'run through' -- and when 'finally ready to stop being 'pumped and dumped ' present 'nonsense' (and sometime dangerous) situations in the relationship (like baby-daddy issues) that you (or anyone) do not need. Good luck in the future. Sounds like you're well along the way to seeing 'red flags' (I certainly missed a few in my youth -- enamored (blinded) by her looks)... And I paid for that)...
Thanks for your wise information old man. Even though you come from a completely different century and age where getting laid was only available with the local people around you (either man or woman), but also there wasn't available this social media c*ncer that nowadays allows wom3n to have thousands and thousands of simps and males that offer them free attention, sex and affection. Under that situation, would you encourage to actually get buffed and muscled nowadays besides already knowing that looks is everything ? Not being fat but so then fit is just 1 out of 7 factors that are within male control but still that doesn't mean you're gonna get sex or relationships with the attractive women you desire or even high quality woman in terms of mental state. At least in 20 century and before that, you wouldn't compite with many dudes around unless there was a Chad - top genetically gifted dude around.
just found this quote at a bluepiller video about attraction: Aristotle Famous quote: "Personal beauty is a greater recommendation than any letter of reference."
As a gay male, all the things she said to you is what we love to hear from our female friends. That is is issue if you are straight, however being too nice is what girls secretly don’t like.
@@gabrielguzman6018 I am maxxing out since a Young age, already did jelqmaxxing, beardmaxxing, Mewing and forced exclusive mouth breathing... I also fashionmaxxed the most I could and groomed myself for years to know the best "looks" for myself basically. So indeed I am chadlite tier, wouldnt say chad because I have delayed puberty and Babyface/prettyboy basically
@@KolchaksGhost it would’ve. If he had self respect, he wouldn’t have joined this black pill community because 1 girl didn’t wanna fuck him. It actually sounds worse when I put it like that
To add to the brutal irony and truth of the situation, it seems that "Bella" won two-fold with "Jason" . Bella ended up dating Jason as well as the fact she was looks hypergamous as she, being a "6" as you stated managed to score herself a "Chad".
The way I look at this stuff is as follows.... Take a 27 year old Ryan Reynolds, remove his fame and status, and have him nervously approach 30 random girls in the street, all varying in rating but attractive. Have an ugly guy with a lot of confidence and swagger approach the same 30 girls. My guess is that Ryan Reynolds would get 25-30 of the 30 numbers, and the other dude would get a couple of pity numbers at best (who then wouldn’t message back). If a dating coach doesn’t acknowledge obvious scenarios like that as reality, then it seems they’re trying to scam the customer. There shouldn’t be a ‘one game fits all’ approach and any coaching should be catered towards the individual’s circumstances. That’s why I respect what you’re doing. I can only imagine the damage the likes of RSD do to some of these poor guys.
Not sure why you keep repeating you are not lying... Every guy that is not a total d.., and not above 8, had similar early experience. Mine was very, very similar, and I actually asked her - what I can do. And this is where I got my first female sincere answer, she said - nothing... So she admitted, literally in my face, that neither my friendship, nor my personality matter at all. And this experience just kept repeating, IMO this is the tougher pill to swallow - the AWALT phenomenon, aka females lack personality... at least when it comes to choice of anything related to sexual behavior. IMO, this is the more controversial topic, and it requires experience to really see it.
Wheat Waffles, thank you for doing the Lord's work and speaking the truth no one wants to hear. I'm a 56-year-old woman who enjoys your channel and has even applied your looksmaxxing techniques to my life, and I'm seeing improvements! God bless.
In your 20s, thats just how it is. Honestly though, the same thing is done by men also. I can remember girls I thought of as just friends (generally not attracted to) randomly asking me out and my surprise was genuine because I had never thought of them as anything except a friend (like a sister). The truth is people dont even notice the other sex when the smv differs by a large amount, they become effectively invisible. The part that really hurts in your story is that it sounds like your smv's were similar. That said women can always get a guy thats a little hotter than them because the game is rigged. If men can ever evolve to be less interested in hook ups then the balance could shift, but given just how strong the testosterone hits in the teens, I highly doubt it. Great story btw, thanks for sharing.
The story of Beauty and The Beast is so successful with women, and is reinvented over and over, is because it is about a woman taming the most powerful, rich, supernaturally dangerous creature in her vicinity. Being a beast makes him attractive because it gives him supernatural strength (he could kill a pack of wolves with his bare hands, Gaston couldn't do that) as well as, and this is very messed up, he will view himself as a monster who needs her to "save" him, therefore giving her power over him. You see similar relationship dynamics in Twilight and 50 Shades and even Pride and Prejudice because it's an essential part of the female fantasy that she can use her perception of moral superiority over him. I see women use this a lot in real life with religion/feminism/wokeism.
That's why many women are addicted to flawed bad boys, even the ones who are not that handsome. As long as you project Strength and power. So being a Bad Boy/Dangerous but flawed is probably the best alternative to a cookie cutter clean chad like Superman.
Thanks for this personal story Wheat, this situation is somewhat ubiquitous to the community, where we come to realise most friendships with girls usually ends up being an emotional tampon. Chad pumps and dumps and puts up with the best version of herself while inkwells put up with the worst version of herself. Good to see someone finally make light of this, who isn't a mic-cel
my guy, if being on a romantic relationship with her was all you wanted, but you knew it would never happen, its kind of your fault for sticking around
he stated that the reason he stuck around is to see if she would come to that point of realization. he knew it wouldnt happen, but he just wanted her to notice what she had been ignoring from him, that she had sought for in others.
I think a lot of people (especially recent viewers) are missing the point of this video.
I intended this to be a self-satire of my own ignorance being bluepilled. I hoped viewers would see a reflection of themselves from my perspective. I thought this would allow viewers who found themselves in similar situations to realize "going the friend route" is not a viable option to date women.
I did my best to articulate the lessons learnt at the end of the video and think it goes without saying this wouldn't happen to me again.
Coach red pill making a video about you on his channel
Came here searching because of him
Go check CRP video about you and learn something kid
It came across as you being butt hurt, not self aware. She wanted an emotional tampon, not someone to fuck. You weren't wrong to like her, you were wrong to stay in a one sided situation blue pill or otherwise. I've been there man and I can relate.
that's ok bro, thanks for sharing the story I like your accent as well, you sound like cool dude.
"Dreams sell. Truth Doesn't."
Damn bro. This shit hits hard
Dreams and truth are one and the same thing. "The simulacrum is never what hides the truth - it is truth that hides the fact that there is none. The simulacrum is true." -- Jean Baudrillard.
They call it the UGLY truth for a reason.
Victim mentality and blaming others does and always will sell. Discipline, hardwork and accountability dont.
We know that with Brexit.
The only time Disney told the truth was when The gypsy girl in Quasimodo ended up with the Chad knight and not the hunchback.
Black pill summarized:"You can't manipulate people into liking you, it's instant or it will never be."
Well, if you get on a hit TV show, you can sort of manipulate women into thinking you're a hot guy.
@@sagatuppercut2960 blind women only. If she has two functioning eyes it was over the second she layed eyes on yiu.
That's lame af and not true
@@christianadrian1256 of course it's not true Christian my friend , obviously you would know with all your life experience... Stfu
Well yes and no, sexual attraction works this way, but simple liking can include stuff like respect and other stuff that you can gain later on
"I’m sure some girl out there would love to date you and you will make her so happy! But not me teehee!"
more interesting is when they say I hate my boyfriend's personality and abuse so much why can't he be just like you and treat me like you treat me?
They always push if off to something intangible like wtf, trying to keep us in this prison.
😂😂😂
Codeword for You are a nice guy but I'm not sexually attracted to you. Hopefully, some other females will.
@@samroot I wonder if Chad was a nice guy would they still be with him? I think it's an obvious yes. But he won't be like that because he's too egotistical knowing he's the shit and all. Red pillers will say they'll get tired of his personality since it's too beta and being a nice guy isn't respected because you'll often make irrational decisions during the relationship because you're afraid of hurting the woman's feelings. Real men need to make the right decisions during a relationship and the women will later realize that during her emotional state you indeed did the right thing and that'll earn you respect. But obviously only when it's called for. Not being an a#shole for the sake of it and getting your own way because you think being toxic 24/7 is the right way to go and it's 'Alpha'. Obviously no one's perfect and can't get it always right and I feel the more attractive you are the more leeway you have.
I think even if the Chad was somehow beta he'd still be able to keep the girl even if he's not as respected. But I would need to see studies. And the only time I could see a Chad having a beta personality is pretty boys. Like Shawn Mendes.
No surprise. I am a 61 year old man who was average by all means in the 80s. I went through that friend zone crap. I found it interesting that in my forties, I had more success with women. I worked out and had a good job. I hate growing old, as we all do, but I do not miss those days as an average Joe kicked into the friend zone orbit by average women. Cheers to Wheat Waffles for warning young men what to look out for. He knows what he is talking about, guys.
as an experienced male, do you ever suggest still to work out and get a muscled body even though that just mean to attract average / below average looking girls ?
You come from a different and more traditional era where women were dating only by real life, through social circles and mostly to sustain a family thanks to the man.
Nowadays the vast majority of women can be independant by themselves, besides earning the same or even more money than the same men. So in this 2020 decade women are more shallow and willing to go for only the most attractive genetics from men... This guy from video is not even exaggerating a fact that have pretty much existed since the beginning of ages: the fact women go for the most genetically attractive males... So that's my question.
Several dudes that spread out those black/red pill messages tend to say to work out but even if that just means attracting from 0 girls to just average or below average looking girls. Is that even worth it at all ?
@@naam4769 Well, yes. It is worth it to better mysrelf. Because even if I were 35, this would still be a problem. I just cannot look at myself in the mirror as a fat slob. Nor do I like the feel of being out of shape. Everyone is different. You make great points. I cannot give you advice to the problem of hypergamy. It has always existed, but now it is out of hand. Every woman thinks she deserves a Brad Pitt with lots of money. As late as 55, I had a really good girlfriend. Once you hit sixty, it gets pretty impossible. I am being honest with you. I guess to sum it up, I feel bad for guys now in their twenties, thirties, and forties because they are swept aside. At least I was given a fighting chance twenty and thirty years ago. I don't have an answer fot the hypergamy problem now. Nobody does. The credo is "go your own way". But that is easier said than done.
@@jonirving5606 Your opinion is certainly very valuable.
Not very often I can see old mine, better off said "life experienced males" that can see the "dating market situation" that exists nowadays in 2020 decade with all the technology available for humanity. Like literally, about 25 years ago started a whole new revolution to interact within human beings and getting sex-affection from the opposite gender have changed very dramatically. But specially since the past decade and the massive expansion of social media.
My point with this last paragraph is the fact, there's no experience, no data, no way to compare this very new way to mankind to get dates in all history of humanity. The way people could find genetically attractive people, specially w0m3n since more than 25 years ago is completely different now.
This guy from the video and many other red/black pillers don't even exaggerate to say that in this age, a very average looking female can have over like 300 dudes who will ego boost her for free on any social media and she may start thinking within her delusions that she's an actual model or porn-like woman. There're so many brain d3ad men out there that will give their time, attention and money for free to any random woman on the internet.
I'm 32 years old but I was always out of shape and wanted to know from you if was actually worth it in the end to get on shape, because I have experienced as a kid and teen, the transition from real life dating to the very massive online dating up to these days. It was already hard when I was a kid and teen because I know as a male, always have been way but way harder for a man getting sex or dates with a woman, even without the internet. Now nowadays, I can see completely delusional and unattractive woman only wanting porn-like or magazine model type of men which, unfortunately many of us CANNOT even aim to, because of basic stuff like height.
My father is 78 years old and from what he have said to me, he used to conquer my mother the same traditional and old way as always males have had to do that is ego-boosting her non stop when he was around his 20 and 30s. In theory, I understand what always have been made by males: The fact they give so much ego-boosting and self-esteem for free to any random and specially average looking woman that, in the end they tend to submit to the male persistence to get sex, marriage or dates.
"Simping" as it is called nowadays, have always existed from what I could have analyzed from other eras, but the problem is now the most distant ugly and weird unattractive male in the most long distant corner of the Earth, will aim to free ego-boosting to any random female he finds on a social media network. It's a problem that males have not only in Human race but have existed since billions of years.
Would you think the sexual market would get any better if men just stop doing this behavior massively ? It's unfortunately this classic and traditional behavior from men that nowadays make most of women think they're super models, no matter if they're on like 400 lbs (or 250kilograms+), or have zero curves or unattractive faces.
@@naam4769 Yes. Simping is a problem. You are better off being your own man with no sex except for one or two prostitutes per month. Many men who simp are the problem. They need to stop it. Most of them will not because they fall for that BS that women give them.
@@naam4769 So, in effect, we men are our own enemy. We have too many men who follow these women with our heads down and give in to their deception.
If a woman doesn’t demonstrate in fact she’s into you by her actions ( being affectionate, physical touch, genuine smile, etc.) she is probably just using you for emotional support or certain resources... if I notice she is not demonstrating these attributes I drop them immediately... you don’t want to waste your time and be used!
Yeah this was his mistake. Not his looks, lmao.
@@howmathematicianscreatemat9226 - I don't think it was his "mistake". it was an error, due to society.
The difference between 'error' and 'mistake':
A 'mistake' is usually accidental, you know it is wrong. Otherwise, an 'error' is usually made due to the lack of knowledge and is more formal than a 'mistake'.
He, and 99% of men out there, at one point, did believe that being the man who is emotionally available is what helps create a good relationship, and to try harder. A mistake happens with a few guys, yet I can bet with certainty that EVERY MAN has been in Wheat Waffles spot at one point in their lives, chad or not.
We didn't come up with this idea out of our ass. This was an idea that was crafted, carefully, but society and no one tells you otherwise until it's too late, or we find out the hard way. To blame wheat for something that pretty much the world around him suggested something that wasn't, is ludicrous. is like blaming a person for doing something that he was told was legal, then come to find out it actually was illegal.
However, the best lessons are the ones we learn firsthand.
@@howmathematicianscreatemat9226 his looks was it. You think him avoiding getting used will make the girl wet and come running to him? You're delusional bro. Most probably she would've moved on in that case. So yeah he fucked up by getting used by her. But at best his only option was not getting used, that's it. He was never gonna get her anyway.
She didn't use him. He offered The emotional support as a supposedly friend. You cant blame other for your lack of boundaries.
@@YukiKonan lol that's what women call "victim blaming" when it happens to them. Double f**king standards.
If a girl ever tells me “I see you like a brother” I’m immediately ghosting her
i kinda cuddled with a girl at a party during a game (non related to the game tho) and then hung out alone with her in the garden, i justed wanted to get blown but then she adressed my with "bro", i immediately called her out on it, politely refused to further chill with her in the garden and went back inside the party
Good. That's called having self respect
what if i live in Alabama
@@maonyksmohc9574 sigma rules
You did great man , that's the right thing to do
Personality = Looks
Attitude = Height
Confidence = Status
Just a quick reminder
It's all halo effect. Terms like confidence, behavior, personality etc. don't have a concrete meaning...you know why? Because they are abstract things. It's all subjective. You can't define a set of behaviors and put it under "good personality". It all depends on the perception of women. Plus there is study where they plotted looks vs pesonality on a graph. There is a strong correlacion between the 2. So yeah, Personality = looks.
Is 6 Inch enough ?
@@nicohol4528 if limp is ok
Where is money ?
@@likearollingstone007 U don't need the money if good looking
In my late teens I had a crush on a girl and became her close friend. I basically experienced the same.
She always told me how nice I am and that I need a girlfriend because a good guy like me would make a woman very happy.
During this time she had an attractive boyfriend and always complained about what a jerk he is.
When she finally broke up with him I hoped that we can become a couple. So I bravely asked her if she could imagine us together.
She was surprised and said: I like you very much but not in a romantic way. Let's just stay friends.
Then she started dating other attractive guys who were jerks and idiots, too and always complained about them when being with me.
Then she came together with one of them and he didn't like me so she ended our friendship.
Seems like every 'nice' guy has to go through shit like that.
Lmao hit hard man i feel sorry for you maybe youre a sub5? Thats why she doesnt have any romantic feelings for you
@@Aeighteen Well, I'm definitelly not an attractive guy by Western standards but much older and already married by now.
@@JackoBanon1the most brutal thing isn’t even getting rejected, but her ending the friendship despite everything she told you, just to submit to some random chad💀
That is sooooo brutal and disgusting behaviour from her, the game here is numbers, you gotta keep trying until you find atleast one, just 1
Brootal😂
Funny how she decided she liked him based on a single picture of him, with no context to gauge his personality. But personality matters, right?
It does matter if the relationship is going to be long term.
Let's be honest, men are absolutely no different. Initial attraction is based on looks. No one wants to have sex with someone they aren't attracted to.
For hookups, personality doesn't really matter either for men or women. But for actual healthy relationships, it does.
And who knows how tall/short/hot/ugly Mr waffles is. Perhaps it wasnt his looks that turned homegirl off, perhaps it was all the simping/lack of frame.
Or here is another hot take, if this girl was really a plutonic friend, he would be stoked about hooking two friends up. The lesson here is if you want to date a girl, either make a move or back off and let her be. Don't be the orbiter, since girls know your intentions anyway, and see your passivity as unattractive. It's clear they aren't actually friends (he would be an emotional tampon without getting anything in reciprocation.
Girls can be cool, girls can be friends. Having girls you DONT want to hook up with is still good, assuming A) there is actually friendship (common interests, they don't talk your ear off on stupid shit, etc) and B) you aren't an emotional tampon. Having girls who are actual friends is useful. They make good wingmen. They put in a good word to you to their friends (who you CAN hook up with).
The way I see it, the mistake here is that he wanted to date this girl, but wasn't up front about it. If he did ask her, and she wasn't into it, he probably should have cut her off (since she doesn't sound particularly interesting, or interested in reciprocating friendship).
Additionally, waffles shouldn't be getting butthurt his attractive friend got a girlfriend. Either it worked out. And his friend found a new serious girlfriend, or it didn't work out, and when waffles gets an ear load from homegirl to complain, he gets to laugh at her, demean her, point out her weaknesses etc, instead of simping. Maybe he didn't get the girl he wanted, but he can at least get vindication knowing at least he wasnt another notch for a Chad.
Do looks matter? For hookups, of course. Good looking people get more casual sex. But it's not that important. Here's why:
A) assuming you aren't a savage, you are wearing a condom, and sex with condoms is on par with sex with your hand. You aren't missing much.
B) if you need to get your validation from a teen/twenty something girl, your internal frame is broken. Woman notice looks sure, but frame matters more over the long term. On average, I know plenty of average guys with decent or hot girlfriends. They aren't models, but they are not fat, make money, have personality, and don't take shit. You have absolute control over those items. Women get their self-esteem from their looks (only), that's why many are shitty and weak people. Men get their self-esteem not from looks, but from their confidence to control the world around them. Get out and do something in the world, don't be insecure about your looks (since you don't have control over much of it)
C) if you don't want to be judged on your looks, maybe don't judge girls on theirs. If your self esteem is so low that you are "blackpilled", maybe just date an ugly fat girl who has a nice personality. Date in your lane (have realistic expectations).
One last thing. Don't forget, women really only have their looks. So yes, in their 20s, they will have more power on the world than a guy in her 20s. But the script flips over time. You will only get richer and more respected with time and success, while the same can't be said for women. Case in point, myself. 35 years old. Five foot 2 inches. Bald. Small penis. I have some muscle since I lift, but not cut (around 20% bf). My verbal game is average (I can be funny/witty/sharp, but not all the time). My 20s sucked ass with women. Now, in my 30s I barely have to try. I did NOT get better looking. What happened is every women in their 30s or late 20s gets really desperate. Every single girl at my office has made a move on me (I disregard them, dont shit where you eat). I have a good job. I own a house. Alot of girls see me as a beta provider. But that's ok, since I know where they've been in their 20s and chuck em just like Chad would.
I guess what I am saying is that on the short term, yes, looks/money/status matter. But as long as you stay on your grind and focus on the things that you should (focus on your health, friendships and career) then shit will come full circle for you as a man. You may not evolve into a Gigachad, but you will be successful in life and you WILL have options assuming your life is generally on point.
And if none of that works for some reason, take a cheap flight down to Mexico or Thailand etc, and just pay for hookers. Once you bang through a couple 19 year olds, you realize that sex is the only weapon women have over men. And once you grind out a few lays in rapid succession, it's power over you diminishes. I would almost argue that sex with a prostitute is about the most open and honest relationship you can have with a women. You give them money, and they pretend to be attracted to you. No different than how rich men pick up trophy wives, just cheaper. Regardless of how you feel on prostitution, the point being is sex becomes less validating the more you have. So pay for it if you have to so you aren't blowing your time and money chasing shitty women with beat up twats.
I guess the only "blackpill" truth I have come to terms with is that beyond teenage/puppy love that first happens when you are young, all relationships after that are transactional. A girl is trading her value (looks/sex/propogation value), for yours. I wasn't born good looking (I'm the definition of Manlet/jacked bald dwarf), but I have some money and status at age 35. Some people have an easier time if born tall and good looking. But everyone is born with something. I know good looking people with the IQ of a jackfruit. Girls notice them, but lose interest since their personality is shit and so is their game.
Final counterpoint. As a man, would you be happy if your girlfriend ONLY liked you for your looks? Being noticed for your looks is as equally unfulfilling as being liked for your money or status. Or another way to say it is while you may not like being friendzoned, how do you think it feels to be a girl who is constantly fuckzoned. It's still shallowness. Looks/money/status/game may increase the number of women in your life, but it probably won't increase your happiness, your self-esteem, or help you appreciate a high quality female when one finally walks into your life. Not all that glitters is gold, and heavy is the head that wears the (Chad) crown.
Sincerely,
An older, bald dwarf who still pulls girls (by having money, treating girls indifferently/not simping and generally grabbing life by the horns instead of worrying if I am ugly or short).
Put the work into yourself. It may not make you a Chad/lady killer, but you will be much happier with yourself and with life, and you will at least attract SOMETHING. And who knows, maybe If you become so interesting and cool, a girl may actually like you for who you are! Just kidding, we all know that is impossible. Personality only matters in true love, and true love is fake if redpill/blackpill is to be believed.
You not see his personality in his beautiful smile, and ownership of a car?
@@jeminigemi 100% we live the truth, attraction is first and foremost but I've dumped girls often for trash personalities. So might not be the same, a girl would put up with a bad personality for looks, a guy would not.
@@jeminigemi a good message, it has changed my perspective, thank you for taking the time to write it.
Don’t worry. Bella will come back to you in 10 Years with 2 kids from different guys
Lmao
Cope
@@leoortiiiz with?
There is justice after all.
@Louis Tea Enjoyer she should get the boot for being dumb
Before I watched red pill content, one of my teachers in college was the one who opened my eyes. I dont recall The specific topic he was talking about but it included the 80-20 rule. then he took the 80-20 rule to dating and he told the men of my generation are going to have a hard time dating because women dont need provisioners anymore. He said this in front of the class and everyone was intrigued. No one took it personally cause we all loved him, by far one the best teachers ive met. Edit: He was first talking about the wealth distribution in the world and that the gap keeps on growing
Why do you bullshit on Internet? No teacher would EVER do this...
@@alexgear959 Maybe not in your country, but in Finland we still have freedom of speech
@@alexgear959 Took a course in something something "Evolutionary somethingsomething humans" (Yes, I didn't care too much, it's a decade ago and I didn't even take the exam, sue me).
At some point it got to the mating selection process. Prof stated a womans needs in that regard being basically good genes and a provider. After a 3 second pause he added "Those two things do not have to be provided by the same person" in the dryest tone ever. I couldn't belive nobody burst out laughing in a room of 100 people.
Prof stating Alpha fucks, Beta bucks :>
@@Dedoverde105 "Alpha fucks, beta bucks" what's the meaning?
@@Dedoverde105 KEK
When modern society completely collapses I just hope I'm there to see it.
I would pick a front row seat and crack a nice cold one open and grab me some popcorn to watch the best show ever. But society please hurry up I'm already 48, 'cause I don't want to run to the can after each beer I drink 😂
@@m.d.hofman4236I am 18, gonna see it all, lack of natural resources, famines maybe war or civil war...
But it's not just modern society, it's always been like this and it will always be like this. It's biological and innate
@@michaelmccorkle2544 i am speaking about the inevitable downfall of humanity due to climate warming, overpopulation, lack of natural resources like petrol or coal...
@@m.d.hofman4236 That's why I pick something thats 80 proof, then I can just sip slowly and get the same buzz over time factor as beer without having the take glugs and keep running to the can every 30 minutes.
NEVER just be friends with a girl you’re attracted to. Repeat: NEVER be friends with a girl you’re a attracted to.
Especially if you are only friends with her for that reason. Either be honest about your intentions and move on when she friendzones you or just don't bother letting her into your life. This is the type of shit that happens to men when they are 16 and you should grow out of. Sad that this is how we are raised.
Very true! Guys keep complaining about the girls, but if she clearly comunicates her intentions ( just friends ) and you continue acting as a friend, you are the one frustrating yourself, not her. If a girls wants to be with you, she'll be with you. If in doubt, get out!
But what if you are friends with her but she feels the same about you ? If both want to be in a romantic relationship it will work
You're right. Also, want to add that it's OK to just be friends with a girl you are not attracted to.
There's a quote I read on a manga that says: "The moment you start wanting something more from a friend, the friendship is over"
More truth in less than 15 minutes than I received in 15 years of public education.
Damn bruh how many times you flunk?
@@jonasmcguire3589 🤣😂
@@jonasmcguire3589 Bruh. That adds up to 13 years until senior high and then 2 years of state college.
truth is always short lies take hours to explains and need to be repetead more and more
Public schools will *never* give solid wisdom on dating. They are part of the problem.
“I know you’re going to find a good girlfriend someday” = You will be a nice provider to a used up girl some day.
After she's been run through by 300 chads.
Yes sir
Turn muslim and keep it halal 😂 most muslim girls and guys never had sex so just turn muslim homie
@@Islem-fu8hn No thanks, any true Muslim knows that music is haram
@@unicron2109 u don't like islam cuz music is haram ?
Twist to the story: Bella meets Jason's friend Dave, an even taller super chad. She tries to monkey branch to Dave. He pumps and dumps her. She goes back to Jason begging for a second chance but he refuses to take her back. They all move on. Life goes on. Many years later Bella, edging close to the wall reappears in waffles life fishing for a ring.
"hey! i was young and stupid youre actually great guy how much you make now you little loser?"
exactly what would happen
This is coping. Most girls will be super happy with their Chads.
you forgot to mention she comes back IF waffles becomes rich
this scenario we don't need movie to broadcast
You shouldn't treat a random new girl like a long time girlfriend
good advice
Whoops...
She made it clear she didnt like him but acted shocked when acting like her friend didn't do anything
Made this mistake. 💯
That cast you as weak and undesirable. I don't know why it's too mind blowing to comprehend.
I myself am 5ft6 and have not in past been very successful with women. Three years ago I took up salsa dancing and became very good at it , and it did help improve my love life a lot , so good social skills and game do help mitigate being short and average looking.
But six months before covid struck this really good looking guy started showing up at my salsa club , he could not dance well and stood in the corner by himself and did every thing these dating coaches tell you is the wrong thing to do . But these girls did not care , they followed to wherever he was and desperately wanted to help him with his shyness and teach him to dance. Watching how girls behaved around him was a big lesson , so yes if you are good looking that’s all you need to get the girls.
Yeah bro that happens. As long as you are sexy people will come to you
just look at the meekspill. a career criminal gets his mugshot posted online and goes from gutter trash to high class socialite overnight. he's set for the rest of his life solely off of looks. i wonder how the kid who he beat the shit out of feels about it, has to be one of the biggest blackpills ever swallowed.
You men in these comments just wish you had a chad boyfriend , you are suspect
uh, same for women😄
And they want a “problem” to “fix” so to themselves feel superior, call life “worth living”, slay-uh I mean aBoRT-a kid or 2 cause she can, and then teach like-philosophies to her 1 or 2 living kids
Been Married for 16 years not once did my wife say . I fell in love with your personality. She said It's was my height ,face and my deep voice. I'm no Chad but I'm a little more than a Normie, but not by much.
So true. Once you are married/have a girlfriend it becomes so much easier to see the blackpill. My gf is relatively friendly, but she is literally repulsed by shorter/uglier men, and likewise finds attractive guys to be "so nice and so friendly" without ever speaking to either. It's insane
@@drened8502 Biology taking its course.
That is sad dude .She doesn't even like you a little bit?
@Goat Like what is NW?
I have never heard a woman say she chose her husband based on values, morality or behavior. It's always boils down to butterflies, one way or another. Even if it's not looks, it's "how he made me feel".
This is why I say: If women wanted to be in your life, they would be. Pursuing them is a punishing waste of time. You're better off forgetting about the whole thing.
We say the same about men too. You're not special 🙄
@@craz4jaymz Your comment only further supports mine.
@@gabeo9474 yeah because it's human nature. Both genders experience it. Men aren't special. You're not the only one experiencing it. Women go through it too.
@@craz4jaymz congratulations, do you want an award or something lol
@@jamesb8619 I would never say no to that, so yes!
The Disney kind hearted point hurt and I'm not even an incel. Seriously being a hopeless romantic is a curse, what a cruel world.
Media has poisoned your expectations my friend.
The beast held frame, bro
It's not a curse if you're chad. But again you wouldn't be hopeless romantic if you were chad. You'd be doing as many as possible.
@@youtubesucks2755 That's a fucked comment that suggests nobody cares about romance, just sex. I think it's you projecting.
@Lone Wolf the audacity of foids when they tell me "theres nothing wrong with being alone".
This is your biggest black pill experience? Dude I've been stood up, insulted, asked girls out and then ghosted, openly ridiculed, being told directly that they would love to bang my brother instead of me etc.. This wouldn't make my top ten. But cool story and analysis.
Exactly op
Brutal!
You are a messiah
Brutal brother but you will come out stronger from this bullshit
@@koanzx1 thanks man Chek out my channel for another take on lookism
Honestly bro, I know this story is brutal, but the situation was for your own good. There is no reason to have female friends, all they will do is spill their emotional baggage onto you and complain to you about why chad didn’t text her back. It’s not worth it bro.
Its not worth for you, woman helped me a lot
@@wallacesafira675 Elab your cope..
@@ClothesIWear woman helped me a lot when Men ignored me, indeed they can help you and teach you a lot, I am a former mentalcel (near autistic spectrum) that were lucky to be babyseated by woman on How social games work and how to behave. So indeed they are good friends If you want only friendship and not disguise yourself as a sheep to try to smash them
@@wallacesafira675 Yeah, but do you even have a girlfriend
@@gabrielguzman6018 yes I do currently, but even while I am maxxed its not easy to keep It going
Im not even joking this exact same thing happened to me. I was hanging out with a girl (yes I liked her) for around a year. Then I become friends with this one dude who isn't quite a chad but probably a 7.5. She starts talking to him more...one week later BOOM! new couple.
Absolute humiliation.
Looks matter
That's why girls make guy friends. To use them to catch a good one.
Classic friend-zone - girl cleverly gives guy the duties of being a boyfriend but with none of the benefits (and slyly leads him on so he believes he has a chance and stays in her friend-zone of his own choice). All guys should be taught about this from a young age.
Thanks for sharing.
How did she lead him on?
@@friedchickenlover7291 she knew that he was attracted. To her and didn’t see her as a friend but as a romantic interest but she sort only to use him for emotional support and security which was all she thought of him.
@@ianarn He said she clearly friendzoned him. It's literally his fault for being a simp and just hoping shed change her mind. He should've realized he was gaining nothing from this friendship and cut her off.
Yeah I wonder why they don't straight up teach this shit in schools. Instead they sell these dreams and let men learn the hard way and get damaged along the way. Maybe it's just that society is constructed so that men are taught to serve 🤔 There's a saying in my country "there's a woman behind everything".
@Piccolo Dbz should've went for a girl that was into him then
People really dismiss the emasculating and denigrating nature of friend zoning. It’s all the comments and subtle behaviors that cast you as a complete non-sexual entity.
What are subtle behaviors and what do you mean by comments
Yea, you got it. The author should learn some emotional smartness from you, not doubt his looks, lmao.
friend zoning doesnt exist lmao they just like you or they dont, pretty simple, everything else is just you misunderstanding her intentions
Because most girls don't want a man who doesn't love, trust or have confidence in himself. "Cool" people have those characteristics that's why they express themselves fluidly and boldy because they are confident that what they have to say is valuable (even if it might not be)
This is a good and true comment, fuck these other people missing the point
This is a brutal truth I learned being a very late bloomer. After years and years of being completely overlooked, I went into a military environment after High School and my body just totally transformed. Guess what happened. Suddenly women started treating me differently. I've seen both sides and looks count the most.
Why we all are like that, bc the men do the same, why we cant be all blind in love?
@@jubacelmesias1154 what?
Women and men do that because its simple biology . People are naturally attracted to attractive people .
Nothing to do with men starting this whole thing.
@@dude9318 yeah, and what did I say?
This was a good attempt, dear military recruiter
@@c2225 Nah. Joining the military really isn't for everyone. There are LOTS of negative stories, as well. But for some people, it really helps.
you should get a medal for this video.
It is literally just common sense. No huge revelation. Only stupid people think women who want to be friends actually would like them as more.
@@veronicaana not everyone is as jaded and cynical
@@veronicaana that’s why you are here I’m sure, because of how much you don’t like the video
My first girfriend after 2 years of being together looked directly in my eyes and with most honest smile in the world said: "I don't love you anymore". Then she said she must go. Her new boyfriend was waiting for her at the street corner. I will never forget this smile. It teached me more about women than every red pill book.
Demn man.
At least she said that to your face, she was no coward.
Most hoes will just dismiss their BF now via social media.
damn..
They should make a movie about these kind of realities . I can feel the pain through your words ...sorry my man...
A woman I loved and was there for her after her divorce held off sex for the last few weeks of our relationship, then 3 weeks after my dad died of covid, she made out with me in a public place, and when it got REALLY steamy, I suggested going to hers, and she said "I can't, I'm sorry if I lead you on". A few weeks later I was at hers and she said "I'm worried about you being here because you don't respect my boundaries". I discovered she was already seeing someone else. I dealt with 3 more deaths after that. It's been almost 8 months, I haven't heard from her.
Never ever let a woman friend zone you leave immediately when she tries it.
No, sleep with her friends in the zone. I did.
Gotta agree with Cyril here woman are the best wingman you can have
"I know you're going to find a good girlfriend one day, and I know you're going to make her so happy." The same worn out, tired line that women love to use to pretend that they hope for your happiness, when in reality they don't.
obviously, they would lose a simp that way, so they really hope you will cling to the hope of being with her instead of finding a gf
That's true. In reality they hope you never find a girl, so you can give her all that free attetion and validation. If you find a girl, they will chase you, that would be the only way to leave that friendzone.
That is why we should respond in this way, if a girl says to us similar things : " I give you the mission to find me such a girl! Lets see what you will do for your old trusty guy-friend dear ", and carefully monitor their face and what she will respond. I bet you : the way she will react will make it clear that she does not intend to help you at all, most probably she will sabotage you. That is why if you start flirting a girl, you never tell it to any female friends you happen to have. Basically do not trust those female friends. Basically not even have female friends. Just treat them as female acquaintances, that you will use to observe the behavior of women and learn from them. Consider your self as a scientist every time you interact with them, and also use them by going out with them, just so that other girls see you with some female, and start thinking that "ok , this man is not a creep, he has the acceptance of another woman, it is obvious that they are not a couple, but at least he is not socially a failure, so if he comes in a few months to flirt me, I will give him some chance...".
@C If the guy was say autism spectrum, could the girl actually like him or maybe feel sorry for him ?
Is that probable ?
If she really thought he was that great, she would hook him up with all of her girlfriends, until one of them appreciated him. But no, its just empty words, its a lie. What she really means is you dont make my 😺 wet, but i still want to use you.
This is the exact same realization I had in my 30s after years of struggling with women. I have a nice face, but I'm 5'5' and skinny. Since I wasn't hideous or threatening, women were always nice to me. However, I could never get to first base with any of them. Nearly all the women I asked out in college told me no. I only had one date in college! Just ONE!!! I was always told "You are a nice guy, but I just don't think of you that way." The reason I found this confusing is because I had been told all of my life that women don't care about looks as much as men and that women cared more about personality and whether a husband would be a good provider or not. I foolishly thought that I could compensate for being short and skinny by being intellectually gifted and professionally successful. WRONG!!! That might have been true in another era when women were economically dependent on men. However, that isn't true anymore. Being smart or having a good career doesn't make a woman tingle in her va-jay-jay. A woman won't 'settle' for an average looking guy with a good career anymore because she doesn't have to get married to be economically secure. Women joining the workforce is the single worst thing that has ever happened to men.
I really wish I had been told the truth when I was young rather than wasting so much time chasing after girls who never were interested in me to begin with. I wish I had just focused on myself and on making as much money as possible.
"because she doesn't have to get married to be economically secure."
They think that till it's time to retire.
"Women joining the workforce is the single worst thing that has ever happened to men. "
Try women's rights etc. as a whole and you've cracked the code.
"I wish I had just focused on myself and on making as much money as possible."
Based. Never too late.
The saying goes,
The truth will set you free but eventually it will hurt.
Then Catharsis comes in and finally your new life begins.
I wish someone would’ve been brutally honest with me as well, so much energy wasted.
The best thing a man can do is focus on himself. Get a career make money. Work out for years, possibly take peds. Taking peds and working out are two of the most effective ways you can increase your muscle mass and thus masculinity and attractiveness to women for most men. You do that and when you hit your prime in your later 20s all of a sudden women everywhere want you including hot young teens that you were once invisible to growing up. Meanwhile women your age are hitting the wall and their power and pretty privilege has dried up.
Wemen lie. They tell you that your a a nice guy but they aren't interested to avoid hurting your feelings. Because most wemen are virtue signalers. They lie because reputation and feelings are important to them. They are too afraid of being hurt or hurting others to speak the truth. They lie and say what they think society wants to hear to avoid looking shallow and out of the fear your unstable and will stalk them or be clingy if they say no, but in reality if they tell you that your nice it means they just aren't physically into you. Its the same reason why men lie about being attracted to younger women. Because society will shame them for it. And some moderator or an A.I algorithm must have deleted this original post because they knows its true and it triggered them.
Its the same reason wemen will come up with any rationalization or excuse possible to justify dumping a man or not dating him. Leaving the man confused and thinking shes crazy, but shes not crazy, just a liar. But the real simple truth is she just isn't into that guy physically.
The problem men face is they tend to not be liars, and tend to take things literally. So they struggle to read women who are natural born liars. A man needs to learn how to pick up on social cues and read between the lines. Watch what she does and read her body language and voice tonality, Ignore what she says and watch what she does. Thats hard for men especially if you are borderline aspergers due to vaccine damage at a young age like many young men are now a days. Most women dont end up autistic like boys because their blood brain barrier is stronger then boys so the vaccines don't damage them the way they do boys.
@@grantwithers Women joining the work force isn't just the worst thing to have happened to men, its the worst thing that has happened to women as well. Its a scam, they were tricked, manipulated, brain washed into thinking slavery to a corporation is freedom. And that marriage and motherhood is somehow patriarchy. Its all psychological operations or mind control.
This is exactly what every young guy's got to learn. When you're older, this shit is no surprise.
I knew this at a young age and got made out to be a Narcissist and shit. Trust me, they WILL fight it back. These women will DESTROY a intelligent/empathic man over what they have done/created. They don't care
Truss
I would say looks are very important but they aren't everything
@@randomhuman2595Looks is 90% of "love". Without looks, nothing matters.
He is nearly spot on. I had a friend. Tall, dark and handsome. He made ZERO efforts in meeting females. He always got approached. I was with him when he met his wife. Him and I were at a place called Slam Jams. Typical pub. Standing around, talking. A person came up to my friend and said that their friend wanted to talk to him. She left a group of 10 people to be with my friend until close time. He asked me to drive her home. She was so enamored with his looks, she trusted 2 guys she never knew to drive her home. I pulled into a mansion that her parents lived in. He looked at me, and said I am going to marry this girl. 26 years later. This is the same guy that strippers used to want to see him for FREE after their shift. He had the IT factor. Looks most definitely MATTER!
holy shit. that is eye opening man. strippers want to bone this guy?
I agree, but if he was effeminate, or came across autistic, he'd likely be the guy that women chatted with for 10 minutes and that was it. He had to be at least "medium masculine/medium normal" in his demeanor to have real success with women, even with great looks. That's my opinion anyway.
@@GUITARTIME2024 most people arent autists tho
@@capoditutticapos19 For free?
He's on another level, like 11+. I've only had two stripper girlfriends. I suppose I could have had more, but I prefer women who aren't in that kind of business.
“Oh no, you’re one of the good ones”=you’re sub8 in looks and height, and would make a great beta buxx back up plan
Brutal
not sub 8 more like sub 6
The important lesson of your story is to immediately dump a girl who puts you in the friend zone. You need to maintain your self-respect. Don't hang around hoping she will be attracted to you one day. If she doesn't give you signals of interest within a week or two, she sees you as her beta male backup plan. If you are not her first choice, don't be her last.
Exactly my experience!
I had a 3 year younger female best friend in highschool.
Met her on the bus to school and from that point onwards I actually liked the bus ride a lot.
We could talk about anything and have fun.
I had a male friend, who despite being rather short and feminine looking behaved like a real chad and never had trouble with girls.
His 3 year younger brother was in the same class as my female friend and he told me that practically all the girls in the class were in love with this older brother, my friend.
My friend was always mean to my female friend, he really disliked her for some reason.
One day I decide I want to take it a step further and, being the naive INTJ I was back then, I told her I loved her and how meeting her made me like the crowed bus ride to school and that I wanted her to be my girlfriend.
At first she thought I just ment that I liked her as a friend but when she realised that I wanted her as my GF, at first she "ran away" and started avoiding me, making the ride and walk to school very awkward.
I decided to force her to talk to me since at that point I decided I'd rather have her as a friend than nothing at all.
She told me she'd never love me and never will, but really liked me as a friend.
A week later she herself asked my friend out on a date.
Ignoring that he had always made clear he disliked her.
He thus agreed to her date, watching a movie at the cinema, and stood her up; watching from around the corner to see how long she'd wait.
She waited outside for an hour after the movie started before starting to cry in public and calling her mother to pick her back up.
He found it funny.
I felt sorry for her and would have kept her as a friend; I would often still go pick up her lunch if she had ordered out (she didn't have a pass to leave the schoolgrounds)
But since she always kept creating an awkward dynamic between us eventually I stopped making the effort to interact and never spoke again at school nor the bus.
Years later I walked into her and she was extremely enthusiastic to see me ... but ... by then I had taken my red pill and just made a default polite conversation before going our own ways again.
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I've never had problems making friends nor female friends ... yet ... not a single girl ever had interest in me romantically.
When I tried out online dating and asked for feed back from failed interactions ... it was always the same thing:
everything about me is ok (from intellect (I was always the best in class at none-physical stuff) to being tall) ... but ... my face is apparently not attractive.
I never disliked my face.
It really doesn't look that bad; I use lotions, shave, ...
But ... I must agree it's not the build of a typical chad or conventional attractive man.
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I even had a single mom (before my red pill and policy not to date them) who was super into me, ghost me the moment she saw my face.
She had even already asked me out on a date but canceled that after seeing my picture while she herself was so worried I would ghost her after seeing hers. She looked super sweet and attractive ... so I guess she must have had self-esteem issues... .
Eventually I asked her feedback and she reluctantly honestly told me it was my face.
This was the moment all my past rejections fell into place.
I took the red pill afterwards and never ever had any success with women until this day.
It sucked ... but now I've diverted my funds and life goals towards my hobbies and interests ... I don't even know how I would fit a women taking up 50% of my time into it all XD
Most of the time I don't miss them.
But ... I will forever hate the society that made me realise that romance is movie make belief, being a gentlemen is outdated and finding the one is a fantasy.
By now I can't even bring up the enthusiasm and effort to interact with women with the goal of asking them out.
I now know and realise the game is fixed ... and fixed hard against me.
This is Gold. Thank you for sharing your experience. Women are not everything.
Your experiences are valid brother, keep the focus on you and if you ever need box you just go out and buy, that's the climate today and we as men should take advantage accordingly ✌🏽💯💪🏽.
@@Taurean_SAMA Tbh I wouldn't want to do that even. I would rather use my hard earned money to buy some meds or do something that destroys my sex drive.
Sex Drive is the biggest issue and the elephant in the room which goes unnoticed. It is what makes us men attracted to women.
I don't think I would ever value female friendships more than the male ones.
I truly enjoy my time with my guy friends than the female ones.
If there can be proper research done and later develop some sort of a medicine which diminishes your sex drive it would be the best thing.
Meds are available for it today too, but their side effects are brutal.
@@ritishakapoor1513 To each their own, if that makes you happy 😁, go for it💯✌🏽.
don’t lose hope, be confident you can find the good one for you maybe it wont be a 10/10 but as long as your happy with her. Also I didn’t you talk about going to the gym to get more muscles this will help tou
Three weeks before our wedding, in a group setting, my fiance says, "All men are assholes." I should have heard the record screech and should have seen the gigantic red flag waving in the breeze, but I thought we were in love. One year later, when my brain was shedding the "love chemicals" and things were falling apart I asked her if she still believed that all men are assholes. She denied ever saying it.
I wish I had spoken up in that group setting and asked her, "Am I an asshole or am I not a man?"
That’s the thing. They don’t see a large population of males as “men”. When they say men they referring to chads.
Ex-wife already?
@@rthelionheart The wedding happened on schedule. A year later when the "love" chemicals in my brain wore off, I realized what a mistake I had made. Tried for two years to make things better, but nothing worked, so divorce. That was a long time ago, though. I should be over it by now, don't you think?
@@tannhauser7584 well, the divorce may be over with but those alimony and/or child support checks can linger around for years.
@Tannhauser love is so overrated... People really do be watching too much of that Disney crap that is far-off from reality...
"You are a perfect guy, you are nice, funny, interesting, fun to be around with but I'm not sure about my love for you"
My ex told this to me after she started talking to Chad not so long ago.
@@MrJuan_Vzla cope
Everyone gets cheated on eventually,get back out there. The main difference between your average Chad and some black piller is that Chad will be sad for a bit before getting back out.
@@brotherumarj3370 Even Chad's getting cheated on in this day an age, women are extremely narcissistic, instagram tinder etc.. i know chads that getting cheated on. Such is life man.
@@brotherumarj3370 that is the only difference? gtfoh
The average guy would be alone and heartbroken for the next 12-24 months.
Chad will be texting the next girl on his list and getting laid in 30 min after.
@@SonyCamry Totally true.
I know a guy who is a solid 9/10 blonde, blue eyes who got cheated on.
Just think about this: if George Clooney got cheated on, what's left to us mortals?
This video reminded me of one story from my high school days:
There was a girl who sat behind me in class, and there was another guy who sat behind her. We used to talk about a lot of things and in time, I felled for her.
But I noticed how she gradually started to talk more with that other guy and later on, i heard that the two started dating. Around that same time, everyone in class was invited to a party by one of our classmates.
And at that party I saw the two kissing and being all lovey-dovey. Seeing the girl that I liked with another guy hitted hard at that time. I cried later that night asking myself why things turned out that way. My 14/15 years old self was pretty clueless.
I promised myself, that would be the one and only time I cried for a woman. Looks really matter bro.
Dude you barely tried wtf. Do nothing, and lose to someone else? L+ratio
@@thetohoapologist4240W. Bro was probably just boring or something. I'm in HS and the amount of average dudes who get with cute girls is staggering. These incel videos would lead you to believe it's not possible. I'm one of those average guys with a pretty lady who most dudes thought was attractive, I literally just was a good person, made her laugh, and invited her out places. Been together for nearly a year now.
No clue why this video was on my feed, but I got a good cringe induced laugh from it and that's all that matters.
@@mewa3263your case would be explained by JBF theory (just be first). So you get with a girl who’s relatively new to the dating market as her standards and emphasis on looks aren’t at their peak.
@@ammonia309 you incels have no limit to trying to blame your lack of game, having no enticing skills, being lazy, being in bad shape, having no skin care routine, having a poor sense of style, having a bad attitude, etc on your genetics.
Women would like you if you were BETTER. I promise you. Go improve yourself, not only will you be more attractive physically, but also more attractive in emotional and mental intelligence.
Some things are genetic, such as being tall and having a "pretty" face (which I got lucky with having both of) but all pretty privilege gets you as a guy is a few comments on your Instagram post and maybe a few people approaching you, but without the rest of it NOBODY is sticking around.
@@mewa3263 you are full of shit
Btw, this is one of the most brutal black pills i've ever seen. And trust me, I've seen a lot.
not the most brutal iv seen, but def deserves an honorable mention
@@udi112 someone needs to make a top ten of the most brutal black pills.
Yes, Brutally dumb. The author takes himself away a lot of chances he would have. He actually almost saw himself what he did wrong: he listened to her problems. For her this was a pushover behavior. THATS WHY he didn’t get her. If he had said that he doesn’t care about her feelings and wants to keep doing his own thing, she would have chase him ! Every single boyfriend of my current 8 looking girlfriend was ugly but every one of them was intelligent. So he should just had done his win thing and shit on her if she shifts on him emotionally. Then he would have easily smashed the hotties. He is an awesome resource manager and resource producer, this is 60% of sexual attraction. If he also learns martial arts, he will be badass with women.
Wow. I agree this is brutal.
edited
looks = personality
this
@@medicann_coping you should look up the video - the attraction factor by thinking ape and the wandering wojak. He states that all that matters in life is being genetically attractive.
@@kevinwilson3337 we know
After all personlity comes from the face, it's what identifies a human being, so it's no wonder how important the face is to be attractive.
@Nebojsa Knezevic I think he means looks moulds your personality. Ie good looks gives you validation and makes you confident, egotistical, cocky etc. Which is ideal.
Being ugly of course you're gonna be insecure with all the negative reinforcement and a lifetime of being mogged. It'll be hard to come back from that mentally even if somehow your looks magically improved.
And this is why looks are everything.
Just ignore any girl who friend zone you, dont give her any attention, don't waste your energy. She showed you a middle finger, you show yours as well that way.
I love brutal blackpill stories like this. Someone should compile a story book with them all in.
Wayne Ronnie Truth is super refreshing in the sea of lies, brainwashing and bullshit that modern western society is built upon.
i could write one on my own, i had interesting teenage years (blackpill wise interesting, so not actually interesting) since i discovered this community in my mid teens and a huge struggle my entire teenage years (still actually and probably till i die) knowing this stuff but still trying to force myself on the blue pill, had a ton of brutal experiences this way
@@maonyksmohc9574 i had one bad experience. Middle school i asked this girl out and she said her parents didnt let her date. Next week i come to find out shes dating some tall skinny football player. Was brutal at the time. It is what it is tho. Hs was very different for whatever reason. There were several girls that expressed interest in me but im ugly af so i nvr did sh*t with them on the off chance i was getting played.
I’d read it to feel better. The black book lol
Why would I read a never ending book? 😂
Bro, this video is the top black pill video I have seen in all of TH-cam history. Clean, concise, upfront, and real. There’s no twisting around the story to make it sound any different than what you did. For such a long time I’ve had a difficulty trying to explain this situation and you have given me a way to make it understandable for anybody listening, instead of ended up in me being blamed for the problem.
I know you’re not into making a profit, but I want to make sure you have the ability to continue making videos! If you have a Patreon bitcoin or Venmo, drop it on the comment I’ll donate a few bucks as thanks.
Thanks a lot, ways to support the channel including PayPal and Patreon can be found in the description of my video
Something similar happened to me except for the other guy part. It's brutal when they say "I just don't feel that way" or something but then change their behaviour for another dude behind your back.
I know this girl who has a roommate and she told me what the dealbreaker was. He was 2 cm shorter. They study together lol. Must suck for him pretty bad. I've only ever tried with tinder bitches, so I have no idea how it is to be rejected and friendzoned.
Girls make rules for guys they don't like but brake every single one for guys they crush on ... its the truth
This hurts so bad, but it's so true. I'm an average black man. I'm sure I fall into the ugly category, because when I'm out in public, women often times walk to the other side of the walkway. A few women have ran from me. When this happens, I'm not even communicating in body language that I'm going to approach any of these women that run from me. I'm short (5'7"). I'm thin (140lbs.) As I said before, I'm black. If you don't look like a built out complete Tyrone with dreds covered in tatoos, no woman, not even black women will want you. Black men have it the worst, because we're either built the heck out Tyrones or small weaklings that everyone thinks is ill. There was a girl at my church one time that said I look like my arteries are clogged. I hated myself for a long time until I started making money. I still don't get girls, but I indulged in a lot of hobbies and events! I get to keep all my money and I don't have to worry about getting divorce-graped by the courts!
You think you have it worse ? Well i,m a White Guy and i have bad dating experiënce,s whit my own kind . In fact it is my own kind that drove me to black , latina and eastern girls . Where my dating experiënce is a lot better then whit my own kind .
You look like your arteries are clogged 😂
You be getting escorts my guy?
Southeast Asian guys have it worst by a landslide
There's nothing wrong with your looks.
In a way, I'm kind of glad I was socially inept in my teen years because it meant I had no female friends who would do stuff like this. I also had no good looking male friends to make me feel like shit also.
Yeah, if he was a good friend. He would have never asked her out just because she was so close to Wheat. He is obviously attractive enough to pull anyone he wants.
A girl became my friend just so she could be around my tall friend and date him--BRUTAL!
I have a friend who’s very handsome. You have no idea the advantages this man has. It’s not fair.
@@thehambone1454 oh trust me, ik what you mean. I have a handsome cousin. We work in the same shop and every girl literally falls over for him. He can have any girl he wants and trust me he tells me the stories of when hes bagging em 😂. I kinda learmed to live with being ugly though. Gotta embrace it. Not everyone can be a winner yk wut i mean?
@@yo-rh8lk ive been losing for almost 50 yrs! I know what ya mean!
-Studied for years game, how to hack tinder, photos, how to dress, everuthing
-My friend in front of me, "Nahhhh let's check how I do in Tinder". Makes a profile, uploads the first photo, no description.
Gets more swipes in 5 minutes than me and my techniques in 4 mounths. (aditionally, women started to talk to him and reply, wich obiously happens to me 1/1000 times)
Your channel just tells the truth.
Dream sells, but truth doesn't. - What a great say. Thank you very much for this video sir. Keep making more videos sir
I know it has been a year since this video was uploaded, but this story is so well put together. So well explained. And I can tell it's a real story because of the emotions felt in this man's voice.
Sadly this happens to chads too 😭 I know for a fact so it’s not all based on looks
@@abcdef-ev5bc danggg
It's not friendzone, it's brotherzone, the worst of all the zones. If you get brotherzoned, leave the entire situation immediately. Leave it as if your life depends on it. Spend your time and energy on your family members and male friends instead, they are the only ones who will stand by you no matter what.
As men, we have no friends. Those people you think are your friends will do the dirty on you in a heartbeat. Wake up.
and if you are some older than her you might be in "daddyzone", i was once
@@phoenixzappa7366 brutally true 💯💯💯💯
@@phoenixzappa7366 I will be your friend
@@iiCounted-op5jx I will be your friend
Growing up with good looking relatives I have tons of stories like this, and they were worse because I experienced them every single say, I don´t know how I kept on believing it wasn´t about looks for such a long time, I guess media and bluepilled people really did their job on me...
its the exceptions that sometimes make people doubt, but many do have explanations.
I have this friend who is super attractive, the way he gets treated by women compared to me is so night and day I got pretty depressed (and stayed that way for quite awhile). What’s even crazier is the “bubble” he lived it, he was so use to getting special treatment he didn’t even realize it was special treatment.
@@ParleLeVu give us examples.
Tell us a story
@@ParleLeVu yes they all exhibit a hive mentality unfortunately! It would have worked in hunter gatherer times but is obsolete to how we live today.
When she sent you the pretty snap pic, you should have just said "it's too late. Jason already saw the goofy pic of you. That is now forever his perspective of you"
should have lol
Nah we tryna help the bros out (as long as u ain't into her like that)
@@tugs8689 no we dont. chad bros don't need help. in fact, if you have a chad bro, it's YOU who will be misearble all the time, looking at them pumping in a new woman every week, while you get to watch them flirting.
“all men are jerks…no, you’re one of the good ones” is an oxymoron. Unless she specifically says “ones” rather than men which is even worse as that implies she doesn’t see you as a man. Maybe I’m over thinking it but it’s just a thought.
yea she saw him like she would see a female friend of hers because he was prob too emotional and women don't find emotional men to be manly
Your not overthinking it, your just right
I remember trying to make this point about a man's looks being the most important on one of Coach Red Pills videos. The men were in complete denial.
When she said she didn't want anything from you and you knew you want more, you should've gone away. You invested so much emotion into an illusion man.
I had this with at least 4 diffrent girls, and in the end I was tired of just being their "brother" being in the friend zone and jsut gave up and stopped dealing with them and it took away so much stress from my life. and in the end the friendships they were having with me weren't making me better they were often more of a drain so in the long run I was much better off.
And if you ever make them understand that you aren't going to be used anymore as a beta tool, they will simply cut their losses like you were never there. They won't try to "save the friendship" by doing you favors in return, at least not even near what you've done for them, to save the friendship.
@@ParleLeVu Damn, I can't even believe the amount of exact experiences I've had.
This simply is universal.
Yes the friendship dissolves like it never existed.
bro exactly dont simp for woman who is not simping for you.if you are just freiends than friendship is a two way street
I was involved with a woman for 2 1/2 years. She brought unnecessary drama and stress into our relationship. I feel though that as the drama and stress continued, I myself pulled away and did not commit to this relationship. I know that my eventual lack of commitment was part of the problem. But one day her 20's daughter said "Mom, you know how you blow things out of proportion." We broke up for good barely two months later. I do not regret this relationship. I learned from it, and we often had nice days together, but I aged 4 years in that 2 1/2 years.
Solution to this problem: Upon meeting the girl tell her you want to date, if she says no, walk away, if she says yes after a few weeks if she shows little interest walk away. DON'T EVER TRY TO BE FRIENDS WITH HER IN HOPES OF A RELATIONSHIP, IT IS A TRAP, SHE KNOWS WHAT YOU WANT, BUT SHE WILL TRY AND SUCK UP ALL THE ATTENTION AND RESOUCES SHE CAN GET FROM YOU LIKE VAMPIRE. AS WELL AS BOYFRIEND TREATMENT, WITHOUT ANY EFFORT ON HER PART. IF YOU CALL HER OUT ON HER BULLSHIT, SHE WILL CLAIM SHE HAD NO IDEA YOU FELT LIKE THAT AND SAY SHE JUST WANTS TO BE FRIENDS AND MAKE YOU OUT TO BE GIANT ASSHOLE. DON'T DO THIS TO YOURSELF.
“When she talks about men, she’s not talking about you.”
The illustrious Jordan Peterson once uttered the following which truly encapsulates the friendzone dynamic:
"Mother nature in the guise of that particular woman has said: you're not so bad for a friend but there is no reason that your genetic material should propagate itself into the future".
Then they bring children of men who are thugs, abusers, and drug addicts instead of giving them a father who will love and cherish them.
@@ilikepancakes2368 Harsh as it sounds, should such women be sold into sexual slavery? It's a rather violent way for them to check their privilege; not all women in the world have the option of actively rejecting male attention.
@@ilikepancakes2368 They want nice guys to support them and make babies with jerks. So jerks have a future when nice guys don't
And Men do the same thing, to girls they are willing to fuck, but not date... very same shit. She is good enough to make you come, but not good enough for any relationship.
@@ilikepancakes2368 love and cherish them+ be unattractive.
What most young dudes miss the most, in the Western Society, is a good life coach to give them a good reality check while they are still teenagers. I'm 50, and I wish I knew many things I learned late in my life (even over 40) about the relations between men and women. It would have made a big difference in my life, and I'm pretty sure it is also the case for many other guys in the World.
@C-Dun Fitness I do my best trying to help younger guys around me by sharing my knowledge.
@C-Dun Fitness I don't know how old you are, but if you don't do it already, work out in a gym, take martial arts classes, jog... Put yourself in a better shape and you will get more selfconfidence.
@C-Dun Fitness Good! Try martial arts too. I began training in Kyokushin Karate at 48. It's tough, but it is worth it. You can also try any other (Boxing, Jiu Jitsu, etc.)
Be glad you lives your years when you did.
Young boys get arrested for so much as tapping on a girls hand as a part of a bad flirt. Not even joking.
I opened my eyes at 36
This channel speaks about a lot of things I figured out myself, thinking I was the only one realizing it.
Same here
I was brutally heightpilled multiple times throughout my life. I've heard girls saying to me "you're short" a lot. At it was basically all about my height, since, thank god, I've got quite attractive face. But even that is not enough since the height is a basis to start with.
I really agree with that.
clearly depends on how u react to her comment from my exp girls ive dated had bf eho were 6 ft and taller and mentioned they like tall guys multiple times before we dated. Im 5"4 short guy
Reach your physical genetic potential, aim for 11-14% body fat and make more money, and make sure you do that for yourself, not for women. Do that and you will attract women naturally, and even if you don't, your life will become more enjoyable.
@@sakshambishalgurung8350 "clearly depends on how u react to her comment" -> *no it does not dip-sheit it is all on her, she made the call in her head nothing one can do from there...*
I am 6'2 of hight (189 cm) but with ugly face (as you can see at my profile picture) and skinny so I disprove your theory of height.
I never, ever try to be a friend with a girl if i'm romantically interested in them. Of course, i will be friendly with them if i see them at work, a party or in public.
But if they don't go for you after the 2nd date, move on. Don't waste your time and effort, they won't change their mind (most of the time).
good advice
Learned this the hard way too, anyone telling you “well looks aren’t everything” is lying to your face. It’s crazy how accurate this story is to mine, I eventually got tired of it and ignored her messages, She’s still sending me snapchat messages to this day to no avail, and I do not plan on opening them anytime soon. It hurt though, she was one of the most beautiful women I’ve seen, but life must go on. Might sound cliche, and it is, but there are more fish in the sea.
uhm bro-
youre also in love with her for her looks
@@itstheooofdragonthat's what he is trying to prove thou...
@@itstheooofdragon read my comment
BRUTAL! It never even began for averagecels. Great video man, had to subscribe. Can relate to this a lot.
I've been ugly all my life and I can confirm, the more you try the more you hate yourself for being ugly, just stop trying and live alone, that's all the life has to offer to us, ugly people. Love doesn't require efforts. Impossible quest leads to suffering. Keep in mind most of ugly people are acting nice because they haven't the choice, nice people are the ugly ones.
@@SuperAnimecity Cut the crap. Yeah you're no model but if you lose those extra pounds you'll be fine. Men will always date down anyway.
@Cassidy-Anime Are you gay?
@@SuperAnimecity No reason. I've clicked on your channel and you seem really nice. Do you live in a small city or something, because most guys are super easy to get. Even I got asked out by a few and I'm a guy (not flexing, but I wish i was bi, or asexual). The majority of men are simps with no sense of self worth who worship anything that resembles a female, and by that I mean they have no looks or personality threshold. I know it sounds outrageous, even I couldn't believe it at first because I'm the same gender so I thought most guys would have similar standards to mine, but I digress. You can type "The Cost OF Craving" and "Forever Alone Women" in the yt searchbox to see the real world statistics yourself.
@@SuperAnimecity Well not exactly interesting, more like a wake-up call. It's not like men don't give certain women a chance to experience romance, so why would you be alone if it isn't by choice just like you claim "I wouldn't want it". As I said before, men as a collective don't have a looks or personality threshold, perhaps I should include health, and stats show that 40% of them can't even get a date in the course of a year even if it would save their life, while almost all women are dating (a smaller pool of guys).
Claiming not to desire an intimate relationship used to be my thing as well after I realized it's a lie I told myself out of comfort. "I fantasise about romance, but I don't want it" - I believe that's called cognitive dissonance. It's self deceptive and it may hurt you in the future as you grow older without relationship experience and human closeness.
@@SuperAnimecity you should stay positive, as a guy i couldnt care about looks or anything else but personality. you seem nice and sweet, and i bet you are smart, self aware to be watching these kind of videos. i would be happy to land a date with you, keep your chin up, not saying it will be easy but i think its not impossible for you. if u want to add me on discord ask and ill reply, im from canada so will probably never meet but i know how it feels to be alone, can talk sometime if u ever need id listen.
I enjoyed this video and thank you for sharing. I would disagree with one part: One can change being bald or not. I did with a hair transplant. Best money I ever spent.
How can you something like that with a attractive wife ?!
@@DuongNguyen-kz2eq last two women I have been with have bikini models.
So you’re banging not one but two bikini models? But yet you are spending your weekend watching blackpill vids? You should have left your story at the first sentence buddy boyo.
@@jaredprice9753 Yea...ibhave been watching these videos...because I think there is a lot of insight in them. I am NOT saying I'm some sub 5 guy...but I definitely am not a Chad either. I'm short and old. Im a "normie" as they say. But juat because I do OK with the ladies doesn't mean I can't enjoy these videos and learn from them. I think there is lots of truth in the philosophy...and I've learned a lot about women from them.
@@seasonedsaintsmnstry my intuition is telling me you somehow bbuxmaxxed and somehow jestermaxx and sugardaddymaxxed too, Just talking this so the others blackpillers doesnt go to harsh on you
You remind me alot of myself. I've always been this way with women and I have always been their emotional tampon. They would cry on my shoulder and say they wish their boyfriend was like me but yet go back to them after them cheating on them and abusing them. After 30 years of this I naturally became bitter and started to not like women. Oddly once I exuded this new behavior I found them becoming more attractive to me. What I have learned is the less you love them the more they love you and the more you love them the less they love you. There is only one way to a woman's heart and that is to be heartless. They are not attracted to men who have big hearts. They love the men who don't have big hearts.
very true
You “nice guys” are an annoying bunch lol. You were never really nice in the first place. All it took was just one woman to bring that demon out. You’re a hack.
Even that's not enough if you are not attractive in the first place.
30 years lol
@@ilikepancakes2368 I like pancakes too.
I went through a situation very similar to this, it sucks. I wasted so much time on this girl, I gave her rides places, listened to her every story, offered emotional support, was always there for her, then as soon as she sees one of my best friends she starts dating him. Literally almost exact situation as this video.
Got news for you guys, I've been in a few relationships, longest was 7 years. I got friend zoned about 6 years in!! This shit never changes, just focus on yourself!
The thing is I’m totally fine with how much looks matter. Everyone is entitled to pursue what they find attractive.
Just don’t virtue signal and stop lying about it. It’s the hypocrisy I can’t stand.
hate lies
I kind of agree. The older I get, the more I have come to terms with it. I can't change how I look. However, I'm just tired of society lying to men about it all the time. We men are purposefully lied to all our lives to trick us into sacrificing ourselves for society under the delusion that if we just work hard and build a successful career that there is a cute wife and kids waiting for us at the end of the process. It's all a big lie.
@@randyjones3050 exactly just don’t lie it’s the same as prostitution
@@astrahcat1212 Some variation of prostitution is the default vocation of every woman.
@@randyjones3050 there’s always a level of finance it’s something that waffle seems to not mention more often
You did expect something in return. You expected her to come to a realization that never happened.
Yeah, somebody needs to sit him down and tell him that.
Because we were told by our parents that if you treat a woman lovingly they will learn to love you in return.
@@GeraldM_inNC my parents never told me that
Maybe in his head, but he didn't really act on it? It is stupid to just account people for stuff that they didn't do
It's disheartening how literally every woman, even the most sensitive and intelligent ones, places so little value on human qualities when it comes to romantic relationships. As an ordinary man with a somewhat insecure and shy personality, I feel hopeless. The only solution I see is to enjoy everything else good that life has to offer me.
exactly, just forget about ever getting in a relationship at this point, if you know it's truly over for you just accept it and try enjoy the rest of everything else there is in life
Happiness from relationships with women is an illusion
Real and true.
Women say exactly the same thing when men use us for sex by lying and pretending to care about us and even planning a future together.
Not true at all. There are plenty of amazing women out there. Looks are important, but the good women out there will value your chemistry as much as her physical attraction to you.
This is a science Channel
It’s way beyond brutal...
It is better to receive an ugly truth than an attractive lie!
@@rp1ten true
@@pureintellectualbeing3575 Thanks; the world is brutal. What people need to realize that facts/truth don't care about your feelings. It is what it is!
Mate, as a fellow London average guy I've been through all that stuff. Your diagnosis is spot on. Look forward to hearing your views on the best options for average guys in this climate.
Stick your hobby and male friend with your own thing together. Give no mind and worry for the women because they will never love you ;) blackpill for life bro
The black pill found me. I never could get a woman I wanted interested in me and if I did, she put me in the friend zone or simply used me after I thought she was actually interested. I have come to understand there is no "building of attraction." She either likes you physically or she does not. And God help you if she's ever pretending to find you physically attractive...
I've been a "psychiatrist" to this one girl in university. God she was annoying. The only reason I hung out with her is because I was shy and introverted amd she must have taken this as me being friend material and I was too nervous to decline so for 6 years I had to constantly hear this girl talking about her life and her boyfriend problems while I tried to ignore her. I couldnt say piss off either since she was kinda popular and her notes from class were useful to me.
You (kind of) used her for your own personal gain? based
So you used her for social capital and in order to pass school and you're whining that she talked to you like a friend?
Dude...
You put up with her BS for personal gain. And now you feel you're the victim. You need a psychiatrist. 😂
This dude right here is the real Chad
You became Bella’s “Emotional Tampon”. Big mistake. Don’t do it ever again. Break contact and move on.
Yeah damn right because that friendzone crap is just a back up plan she will finally want to be your girlfriend when she is used up and has nothing left just like how Jenny was with Forrest.
I value our friendship= Ivalue the free attention and emotional support without sexual investment
von wo bist du maxi?
I had a similar experience, but years later after losing contact I did get with the girl I simped on for a while with essentially no effort. Still, it taught me that you should never simp, never be a beta orbiter, never allow yourself to be in the friendzone. It's still ok to be friendly with a girl, even to hang out with her, but you can't ever really be her friend. Best thing to do if you're friendzoned is to either cut her off or use her to try to meet her other female friends. Ironically, that's the only thing that might generate attraction. Once she sees you giving her other female friends attention, she'll be jealous and miss your attention. Female jealousy is extremely strong. I think that's the only force that can actually generate at least some degree of attraction while in the friendzone.
Brutal. I also have stories like this. Life is no joke.
Get self respect and youll find a girl
@@haghuro9843 😂
Yea Gaston definitely would’ve gotten them cheeks in the real world
Thing is the beast was originally a chad
@@dubiousblued
Exactly it just defeats the entire point of the story haahha
Pretty sure the beast hight mogged Gaston.
I am 71 (so, I have been around). And black. (that is not a 'major factor' in my thinking). I will say, your SUBFIVE seems to 'hit the nail on the head' as far as what attracts women.
Being 'nice' through the younger years did not get me good results...
I did try in an "assiduous" manner to avoid being the 'guy' that would be talked to about 'her bad' man. Not succeeding all of the time.
Yes, I do believe 'looks is everything.' You can be as 'nice' as possible -- but, many young (and sometime older) women are 'bored quite easily with 'nice' guys.
By the time the ladies start 'hitting the wall' -- many have been 'run through' -- and when 'finally ready to stop being 'pumped and dumped ' present 'nonsense' (and sometime dangerous) situations in the relationship (like baby-daddy issues) that you (or anyone) do not need.
Good luck in the future. Sounds like you're well along the way to seeing 'red flags' (I certainly missed a few in my youth -- enamored (blinded) by her looks)... And I paid for that)...
Thanks for your wise information old man. Even though you come from a completely different century and age where getting laid was only available with the local people around you (either man or woman), but also there wasn't available this social media c*ncer that nowadays allows wom3n to have thousands and thousands of simps and males that offer them free attention, sex and affection.
Under that situation, would you encourage to actually get buffed and muscled nowadays besides already knowing that looks is everything ?
Not being fat but so then fit is just 1 out of 7 factors that are within male control but still that doesn't mean you're gonna get sex or relationships with the attractive women you desire or even high quality woman in terms of mental state.
At least in 20 century and before that, you wouldn't compite with many dudes around unless there was a Chad - top genetically gifted dude around.
u really 71?
@@iiCounted-op5jx Well I 'fudged' by one year. Yes, I was 71 when I wrote this. Glad you got through the typos.
nigga really made me look up the definition of assiduous
just found this quote at a bluepiller video about attraction:
Aristotle Famous quote: "Personal beauty is a greater recommendation than any letter of reference."
If a girl friend zoned me or I think she’s about to friend zone me I cut all contact with her I just disappear.
Yeah...
As a gay male, all the things she said to you is what we love to hear from our female friends. That is is issue if you are straight, however being too nice is what girls secretly don’t like.
It's one thing to hear stories like this told in a minute by friends but it's really eye-opening when you tell it like this
Who would want to be "friends' with a girl in the first place. What real guy would even consider that for a second?
This is the truth, you never wanted friendship, its only a disguise so dont cry when people spot that out too
@A DESOLATE SOUL they really do, but First they have to consider you a Man (chadlite/chad/prettyboy) besides that it never began
@@wallacesafira675 So are you a chad/pretty boy
@@gabrielguzman6018 I am maxxing out since a Young age, already did jelqmaxxing, beardmaxxing, Mewing and forced exclusive mouth breathing... I also fashionmaxxed the most I could and groomed myself for years to know the best "looks" for myself basically.
So indeed I am chadlite tier, wouldnt say chad because I have delayed puberty and Babyface/prettyboy basically
@@wallacesafira675 so baby faces are delayed with puberty
This is the truth. Can confirm from my own experience. Female objectify male way more than male does. Boys, love for yourself
Bro some simple self respect would’ve fixed this whole situation
@@haghuro9843not really. It would’ve ended the situation, but he wouldn’t have got what he wanted
@@KolchaksGhost that’s just life lmao. You won’t get everything you want
@@haghuro9843 shouldn’t have said it would fix it then
@@KolchaksGhost it would’ve. If he had self respect, he wouldn’t have joined this black pill community because 1 girl didn’t wanna fuck him.
It actually sounds worse when I put it like that
To add to the brutal irony and truth of the situation, it seems that "Bella" won two-fold with "Jason" . Bella ended up dating Jason as well as the fact she was looks hypergamous as she, being a "6" as you stated managed to score herself a "Chad".
The way I look at this stuff is as follows....
Take a 27 year old Ryan Reynolds, remove his fame and status, and have him nervously approach 30 random girls in the street, all varying in rating but attractive. Have an ugly guy with a lot of confidence and swagger approach the same 30 girls. My guess is that Ryan Reynolds would get 25-30 of the 30 numbers, and the other dude would get a couple of pity numbers at best (who then wouldn’t message back).
If a dating coach doesn’t acknowledge obvious scenarios like that as reality, then it seems they’re trying to scam the customer. There shouldn’t be a ‘one game fits all’ approach and any coaching should be catered towards the individual’s circumstances. That’s why I respect what you’re doing.
I can only imagine the damage the likes of RSD do to some of these poor guys.
Reminds me of a female coach that totally 100% lied to women when she said age doesn't matter
@@fjparasite1172 that one’s incredible, but just shows the level of scammers that are out there.
Not sure why you keep repeating you are not lying... Every guy that is not a total d.., and not above 8, had similar early experience. Mine was very, very similar, and I actually asked her - what I can do. And this is where I got my first female sincere answer, she said - nothing... So she admitted, literally in my face, that neither my friendship, nor my personality matter at all.
And this experience just kept repeating, IMO this is the tougher pill to swallow - the AWALT phenomenon, aka females lack personality... at least when it comes to choice of anything related to sexual behavior. IMO, this is the more controversial topic, and it requires experience to really see it.
Blue pillers stumble upon black pill channels and start talking trash.
She actually did you a favor, she didnt use you or anything, it was not her fault for not being attracted to you
Wheat Waffles, thank you for doing the Lord's work and speaking the truth no one wants to hear. I'm a 56-year-old woman who enjoys your channel and has even applied your looksmaxxing techniques to my life, and I'm seeing improvements! God bless.
In your 20s, thats just how it is. Honestly though, the same thing is done by men also. I can remember girls I thought of as just friends (generally not attracted to) randomly asking me out and my surprise was genuine because I had never thought of them as anything except a friend (like a sister). The truth is people dont even notice the other sex when the smv differs by a large amount, they become effectively invisible. The part that really hurts in your story is that it sounds like your smv's were similar. That said women can always get a guy thats a little hotter than them because the game is rigged. If men can ever evolve to be less interested in hook ups then the balance could shift, but given just how strong the testosterone hits in the teens, I highly doubt it. Great story btw, thanks for sharing.
This.
Well done !
Say you're a 7 without saying you're a 7
The story of Beauty and The Beast is so successful with women, and is reinvented over and over, is because it is about a woman taming the most powerful, rich, supernaturally dangerous creature in her vicinity. Being a beast makes him attractive because it gives him supernatural strength (he could kill a pack of wolves with his bare hands, Gaston couldn't do that) as well as, and this is very messed up, he will view himself as a monster who needs her to "save" him, therefore giving her power over him. You see similar relationship dynamics in Twilight and 50 Shades and even Pride and Prejudice because it's an essential part of the female fantasy that she can use her perception of moral superiority over him. I see women use this a lot in real life with religion/feminism/wokeism.
Yeah men are usually viewed as "bad" for some reason
Excellent analysis. True in every word.
Jordan peterson said the same thing
Someone should make a new movie "Beauty and the Average guy".
That's why many women are addicted to flawed bad boys, even the ones who are not that handsome. As long as you project Strength and power. So being a Bad Boy/Dangerous but flawed is probably the best alternative to a cookie cutter clean chad like Superman.
Thanks for this personal story Wheat, this situation is somewhat ubiquitous to the community, where we come to realise most friendships with girls usually ends up being an emotional tampon. Chad pumps and dumps and puts up with the best version of herself while inkwells put up with the worst version of herself. Good to see someone finally make light of this, who isn't a mic-cel
Stop becoming friends with girls just to get pussy then
Good looks are not just important in dating. Your looks impact all other facets of life.
my guy, if being on a romantic relationship with her was all you wanted, but you knew it would never happen, its kind of your fault for sticking around
he probably didnt know better back then
Exactly, he wanted her attention. Sticking around hoping for her to change her mind about him.
thats why he made this video, so we can learn from his mistakes
I don't think he would deny that.
he stated that the reason he stuck around is to see if she would come to that point of realization. he knew it wouldnt happen, but he just wanted her to notice what she had been ignoring from him, that she had sought for in others.