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Is your opponent a non redpill/blackpill channel? Maybe a political channel? Having one of those "Left" or "Right" or "Center" politics channels debating you could be huge for popularising blackpill if played well
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My coworker was talking to a girl and a homeless man with missing teeth tried to hit on here. He said "doesn't this guy see the difference between him and her?" Alluding to how a homeless man trying to get with an attractive employed woman. I told him, "That's what happens when they tell guys to be confident. They become confident in their delusions."
@@xxxlisandroxxx98 That's red pill logic according to PUA's. The MRA's and MGTOW also have their brand of red pill logic. So you are lumping the PUA strategy as the sum total of red pill which is a fallacy.
Take the blackpill, but not the extended release. Get the knowledge, file it in the back of your mind, but don't take it to the grocery store with you. Don't stare at couples at the mall and compare their facial ratios and predict if the relationship will last on the aggregate. Look after your thought life and don't OD on blackpills.
I mean this advice isn't wrong, I personally think it depends on where you stand on the looks scale. If you're normie tier or at the lowest a 3 then maybe looksmaxxing can help and you shouldn't give up, just keep the blackpill in the back of your mind when dealing with women. If lower though, well I hate to tell anyone to become defeatist, but the most realistic view is that looksmaxxing won't help unless it brings you up to like a 4 or above (if that's possible) and it's then followed up with geomaxxing which probably isn't a realistic goal if like most subhuman guys you don't make great income.
I always find it funny when guys say “I don’t understand girls bro, they ghost for no reason bro, it’s like they don’t even know what they want bro”. No, they know exactly what they want and there’s always a reason why she ghosts. That reason is usually that she thinks you’re unattractive. She was sitting at home bored and wanted some extra validation so she started texting you and decided to lead you on. Then chad texted her back so she ghosts you. Brutal, it truly is over boyos.
Being unattractive takes many forms. Are you speaking of physical attractiveness? If so, that's not 'usually' the case. But, yes, does occur. Non-304 vvuhmen look for compatibility. They're not all looking for a Chad.
The problem with the blackpill is that once you take it, there is no going back. You start seeing everything through the blackpill because it explains so much - things that happened in your past, how people react to you etc. I've been constantly trying to block this knowledge out of my mind for months now but life constantly reminds you - I work at a university and just watched my co-workers get Chadstruck by 6"4 student.
I've become obsessed with the black pill to an unhealthy degree. I can't stop looking at my own face in the mirror wondering how I could possibly improve it. And now researching plastic surgery, something that never even occurred to me until now.
The blackpill that Waffles represents isn't pure blackpill. Here are some principles of the true blackpill that he doesn't believe: 1. It's over. Just give up dating. 2. Game does not matter at all. Looks is your game. Meanwhile, some of the "blackpill" beliefs that he believes are actually redpill beliefs. Here are some of them: 1. Looksmaxxing 2. Geomaxxing The reason why those two are considered redpill beliefs is because those require work, which is the core of redpill principles, to do extra work so you can get your partner. One of the beliefs that redpill has is "Be the best version of yourself". Waffles thinks that redpill does not believe that looks is important, which is false. Dating coaches may think that, but some redpill non-dating coach people like Alexander Grace and Darius M believe that looks is important. Blackpill principles are represented by the color, which means blackpill principles are mostly about pessimism and apathy. From his beliefs, he's actually a very strong redpiller, around 66% redpill and 33% blackpill.
It's just that everything relationships is much more negative than most people hope for. So what's actually the dog's honest truth, sounds like unnecessary pessimism for a lot of people.
Facts. I once read "The Game" by Neil Strauss, and for a bit in my college years I was kind of red-pilled. But deep down I've always been aware that your "game" really doesn't mean jack shit if women don't find you attractive.
Blackpill redpill this pill that pill quite litterally just shows how disconnected yall r from reality this isn't realistic it's yall gaslighting yourself into thinking it is
@@user-hp6pj4sy3k EXACTLY. You can't fucking persuade a women to like you with your "words." You could be very socially competent and good with word, but if you're ugly you get nowhere with women.
@@marcoslightspeed5517 HES NOT REDPILL IF ANYTHING 🍊🧡🏆 BECAUSE ORANGE IS THE NEW BLACC AINT FINNA SIT ROUND BE SAD & DARC ALL DA TIME ADD SUM SUNSHINE TO YOUR SHADOW ⭐️🅿️
@@marcoslightspeed5517 Redpillers are the extreme just because wheat waffles believes in self improvement doesn’t means he’s redpill, people wanna do nothin and still get girls nah it don’t work like that….. that’s blackpill
That's basically the criticism that I have had for the entire set of advice that Rollo Tomassi gives. He has really solid information, but a lot of the advice is only partially useful for the average guy, and almost entirely useless for the below average guy.
@@DamazViccar When you're not challenged to change....there's no point to change. I'd go a step further and say that it's easy to remain complacent and enjoy life when life is good to you.
People who think the blackpill is about giving up simply haven't actually listened to the content properly. It's about self improvement with a realistic outlook on the world and human behaviour.
@@devol_1 i think classic redpill usually focus on things like money and body if you understand blackpill and you want to improve you can do other things like surgery Surgery is not mentioned that much on redpill channels
My wife of 6 months left me, it turns out she only married me because I gave her American citizenship because she is from Columbia. If it seems too good to be true, then it probably is.
lol i thought all americans knew that if some foreign chick is interested in them, thats probably to their citizenship. i say that as a guy from the developing country btw
For normies, blackpill gives hope and actual valid results if the *proper* work is put in. For incels, it frees you from the burden of trying to reach an unobtainable dream and also puts you at peace with yourself. It also protects you from scammers and potentially embarrassing yourself and destroying reputation. The blackpill is an absolute win in my opinion because people need to know the truth regardless of whether they like it or not. Delusion is more dangerous than understanding your limits.
@@kirilzz Not cope if what is keeping you in subfive can be fixed by surgery. Then you are the one coping for refusing to work and save for said surgeries.
After taking black pill I feel I am finally free from the rat race , no longer worry about gettin laid or about girls, I just sit back and enjoy my life .
@@savager9936 as an older man, I assure you it always mattered. I had a college roommate who was an uber chad, he was dull, monotone and had no game, but he got all the pussy on campus. I benefited by just being around him and getting the friends of the girls he was seeing.
Red pill coaches are just like faith healers. If their scam doesn't work on you they say its because you just "don't have enough faith" in their scam you just "aren't believeing hard enough".
Bro it had a redpiller using somewhat redpill scriptures and quotes. He'd say things like " once you're ontop of ya game she wouldn't know why she came ". It's fukin hilarious actually how far some will go with ideologies 🤣
Na, redpill have different sayings for people who don't believe in their stuff, they call you the worst a redpill could call a guy, they call you a "simp" or a "incel" or "white knight" and "beta" etc etc
This is by far the most realistic outlook - a combination of the black pill (acceptance( and red pill (improvement). Accepting the black pill as reality is the first step. Once you've accepted reality then you can look for ways to improve and enhance your odds of success in the dating scene.
Yeah I rank it like this: You need black pill first to know how to get women to notice you. You need Redpill next so women won't run the relationship or lose attraction. Finally long term, you need blue pill to keep her emotionally connected so you won't be a jerk
This is blackpill not a 50/50 mixture, if you think simply improving yourself is redpill then you are mistaken. Redpill is Maxxin out so that you can get MANY woman. Blackpill is knowing your strengths and weaknesses so you know where to pacifically work on and so that you keep a realistic mindset. Redpill is for the playas and you cannot be a playa if you can’t even get one woman or if you only want one woman
@@mario125ww false that a good way to break it down but you really only need to be one, from the sounds of it you sound like a Redpill guy because you want to have knowledge= blackpill , Game= Redpill, Kindness = Bluepill………. If you want to be all three then you technically qualify as RedPill
I have basically same mind set. Foundation is black with some red on it. The "pure/deep" black pill can be harmful if person falls into the "im short so im giving up" mentality. In mixture with red pill this should be avoided.
The blackpill is the only thing that makes sense out of the dating world today. I've NEVER seen a chad or anyone above a 7/10 struggle with their dating. I remember i was at a party once and I took the risk of asking 6 random guys how theyre dating life was going and all their answers matched with the one I had in my head. I could tell from their looks alone. Good luck trying to explain that with the "red pill"
@@dutchmaster1999 bro you're on a blackpill channel, you should know the futility of being "fun" at party when you're sub 7, you'll just be seen as a jestermaxer
Nah, Chads are beginning to struggle too. Especially in the apps, a female coworker of mine showed me her matches on a couple of dating apps and I saw a good portion of Chads and 7 - 10/10 men texting her desperate messages.
The more attractive you are, the more “game” mistakes you can make. A normie will need perfect game and is still likely to get beat by a 7 with average “game”.
ita better to be a black pilled because even if you struggle with dating, you won't embarrass yourself. A large percentage of men simp for women that don't want them
I was incredibly suicidal until I took the blackpill, the redpill had given me false hope for years and I was lost and felt like I was slipping away. Ever since I took the blackpill I have been able to set out realistic goals for my life. I understand that I will die alone and even though I can never get over that at least I am able to live a life where I don’t actively think about roping myself, I try and find things to distract myself from my loneliness such as travelling playing video games giving my dog attention watching anime etc
There is a lot of high quality experiences beyond western ideas. Spirituality, self improvement, following the path of ideas and not falling into the trap of traditional thinking. There are more men that are known in history for following concepts or ideas, than man that are known for having intercourse.
2D girls ftw, lol Just kidding. You can easily find friendships online these days. And can find friends in group activities, like volunteering, martial arts, clubs of some sort. Don't take what life throws at you seriously, just go with the flow, and try new things.
I think the blackpill gives you the self-awareness to know your limitations and improve on them; it also gives you a realistic expectation of what you can get in the dating market. Unlike the redpill that tells men you can game your way into Stacy's pants - no it's not happening.
Technically you can game your way into “Stacy’s pants” it’s just that game will not work for everybody because some things cannot be taught. I’m a incel and I can say that Stacy can be gamed if you fit per say standard when it comes to Money, Looks, Social skills, status, or lifestyle…… nobody said getting girls was easy that’s why everyone can’t do it
@@gregpettis1113 you mean the guy with a recessed chin in his 30’s who still dresses like its the early 2000’s? Lmao dude lies to men, another typical PUA, more like 33 scams
@@HOODTROPHY2x Exactly. Escorts exist btw too for people who have some spare cash. if your goal was originally to get into a relationship with an attractive woman though....that's a lot harder and the real challenge. For sex, you just need to hold her attention for one night at least. For a relationship, you need her to really love and want you. She has to feel like she is getting the best deal.
@@justmonika2345 yea and this is why everyone is soon going to say goodbye to relationships because most guys think they want a “model” until they see what comes with having one and then come to a realization that most regular average guys don’t really want a “model” people just want what they can’t have to try and fill a void. Real men just want a compatible partner who is their type and also a loyal ride or die…….Any guy can pay for sex so sex isn’t anything that should be valued, what people are actually looking for is attention, validation and a connection
Red pill tells you just part of the story. The Black pill slaps you in the face and tells you the raw truth. (Some take this to the extreme) I would rather know the truth so I can fix things that I can and stop wasting time on things that I can't fix. Comforting lies just prolong the confusion, frustration, and agony. Knowing all this, life has never been better. I only wish I knew about this earlier.
Thats what i thought, Redpill channels says nice guys finish last, however all my friends are nice guys and they have a gf meanwhile i try to be the bad boy and having 0 results. Nice guys don't finish last, ugly guys do.
Manhood is more than just searching to fit into boxes like all these "pills". Build yourself into a man of character and strength, be always a man of your word and master some useful skills that you can put in the service of others and you will have a fulfilling life. Expect similar traits from the woman in your life and you will have a chance to a lifelong relationship, where both of you will thrive. If you are interested in topics related to manhood and masculinity, feel free to challenge yourself with some ideas on the Mastery Order Channel and, of course, challenge back if you have other points of view. Looking forward to your opinions. All the best to you!
Glad we agree Wheat, the Blackpill is invaluable in letting you know where you stand and once you know this you can adjust accordingly. Biggest takeaway I got from the community.
Most $hit bags pretend that Black Pill is about doom because they want to keep men in a perpetual state of ignorance about female nature so that men can be taken advantage of.
Chad friend is sad for me. He sees some girls are into me, but I'm so jaded and disheartened that I turn them down, brutally sometimes depending on my mood. More than half of women have stds, more than half of them will divorce you for no good reason, and unless you're an 8 or higher, you're going to have to spend money on them one way or another.
As someone who lost a lot of his looks through a accident with face-changing consequences , I can say that the blackpill is really true. Is not that I am was a Chad before and not that a I am horribl eugly now , but my jaw and face got asymetries that I did not had before. Probably lost between 1 and 2 points. From a good 6 to a standard 5 i would say. Life is different down here.
It’s the hard truth man I know when I go bald I will be set back too because my head shape but we have to just focus on other natural and not materialistic things that we can bring to the table
This is the truth that nobody tells you out of fear of hurting your feelings. It hurts more to have the truth withheld tho. BP lets you reframe reality in a realistic (ie healthy) way
Critical advice: Do NOT try cold approach if you're a non-Chad. No apps, no bar hopping with your clan of normies to "get lucky." If we all did this, the currency of male attention will go up in value, and on an individual basis, you'll save time so you can focus on maxing. Black pill leads to miserable nihilism or self-improvement; don't let it do the former.
Why do you care about dating anyway 'Hasan'? If you want a girl you can just get an arranged marriage to someone. Turns out many men actually want to be promiscuous but then they realise in a promiscuous society it's not them who has choice, it's the women.
You know what woman like more than someone there physically attractive too……. Someone who can take care of her so it’s gonna always go both ways that why Redpill preaches to be both even though most men will never be
@@HOODTROPHY2x beta buxxing means she likes your money and resources, not you. Good looks provides halo effect, which means she thinks she actually likes your personality
@@themarathoncontinues4211 I never implied to being a succa or said anything about betabuxx, if a guy is a beta than he shouldn’t be in a relationship at all.
I feel sad that people like you, aka blackpillers, get demonized and strawmanned on your views hopefully one day blackpill will unironically revolutionise dating market and make our lives easier
Being blackpilled can be tough, but its the truth. I have a severely recessed and asymmetric maxilla. I never smile, because it's physically hard for me to do, and it looks terrible (my own mother laughed at my smile once). Its excluded me from relationships, promotions, etc. I knew of this problem a long time ago, but the BP ideology led me to do something about it, so Im trying to surgerymaxx. I'm older, so its probably over for me, but I want to have a nice smile just once before I die. #nobodyasked
I had a lower jaw surgery at 19. Now I am 24 and still no luck with ladies but I am more comfortable smiling, talking and have more confidence. So get it done if you can, it also helps with teeth health and jaw pain
@@SimpleFarming05 ty for your reply. What did you have done exactly? I'm in braces now, and am having a lefort 1 next year. My mandible is structurally fine, but has shifted to meet my molars, as my upper jaw is recessed and too narrow. My two sets of teeth practically sit right on top of each other. As a result, my teeth are extremely jagged. I've been told to "just get veneers" but a dozen dentists told me it's not possible due to how bad my bite is. So im finally getting lefort to correct this enough to where I can get veneers. The BSSO scares me frankly. My current ortho believes that if my maxilla was forward and wide enough, then my mandibular asymmetry would correct itself over time. I'm just jealous of the 99.9999% of people who don't have to worry about this sort of thing. It's not covered by insurance in the USA, so I'm gonna spending 30-40k for this. This money comes from stemmaxxing. Hmmm, I wondered why I had to stemmaxx.... could my trash genetics from my trash DNA father have to do with it? I just wonder...
@@luxury5885 hmmm, I think it is called bimaxilliary orthognatic surgery or something like that. My lower jaw was to forward so my lower teeth were in front of the upper teeth. They moved my lower jaw back and upper jaw a bit forward. I don't want to scare you but it is tough for the first few months after surgery, especially the first month when you can only eat liquid food and can't talk. But I think that it was worth it in the end. I am lucky enough that I live in an European country and so it was covered by the insurance. I think only those that start with orthodontic procedure before 18 have it fully covered but still. Can't imagine paying 30k for it.
It is never too late. We only live once. I had crooked teeth that my parents never bothered to spend money and correct it. 20 years later, got the teeth and got jacked- what a world of difference
One of the harshest, coldest truths when it comes to getting women for us guys to rationalize is that its honestly not too dissimilar to how women think about and approach dating. Women, just like men, are primarily going to be swooned by that immediate, visceral reaction to seeing someone. If you don't have any immediate, viscerally attractive traits then it's going to be very difficult, if not damn near impossible, to get anywhere with her. All that stuff about text-timing and specific negging lines is tertiary to this. The hardest part, and biggest obstacle is just getting your foot in the door. Basically you either exhude attractive qualities from minute one or you don't. It's nowhere near as complicated as people make it out to be.
The black pill has made me realise not to force friendships relationship etc but the REDPILL has thought me to improve what you can finances physical appearance etc
There’s nothing in the blackpill that says you shouldn’t improve yourself. You should. But you should also know that if you’re below a certain looks threshold, no amount of self improvement will help you get a date. The blackpill is all the truth you’ll ever need.
That was a really good video and shows that Wheat Waffles isnt like the other blackpillers that say: "ITS OVER" hopeless. Literally the best black pill channel imo
I can't help but become emotional after listening to you today. I wish people were as truthful and authentic as you. The cynic might ingest your message negatively. I find your proposed truth as hopeful that I can finally reach some clarity in this complex life of relationships.
You know what the biggest black pill is? Knowing that even if you work at improving your looks, finances, and game to even the point where you look fit and handsome, you have a comfortable lifestyle, and you've developed all the charm and charisma you wanted, it won't guarantee you a quality woman. The quantity of women may increase. But not the quality of women. This is because no matter how much of a perfect man you are, you cannot improve the women in society. The issue with self improving just to get women is that it may feel good at first when you get a woman and enter a relationship. But because modern day western women are all so low quality in terms of their personality, she'll just end up dragging you down. All that self improvement will basically have just gotten you a crappy, miserable relationship where she'll bleed you dry of your finances, your mental wellbeing, and your physical health too. You may think being a so called high quality man will mean your woman will always stay loyal to you. But it guarantees you nothing. If the most handsome film stars, the fittest athletes, and the richest business men are all getting routinely screwed over in divorces by unfaithful women, what chance do you have? There's such an unnatural focus these days on getting men to self improve because the majority of us can't get girlfriends in this ridiculous, superficial, rigged modern dating market. But really, the need for self improvement needs to be put on women. How many women these days are virgins before they marry? Very few if none. How many even have a body count lower than 10 before they marry?.Very few if none. Just look at how many don't know how to, or are just simply unwilling to do even a basic gesture of kindness for a man like cook a meal for him. Even if a man holds such a basic expectation like that, look how women recoil in disgust and get bent out of shape about it. Look how many women these days are overweight and can't keep themselves in shape. Look at how many of them have deeply flawed personality issues, such as being narcissistic, manipulative, and disloyal. Look at how many of them are single mothers. And just look at how many cheat on their husbands. It's ridiculous making yourself into Mr superman just to wind up with a woman who will leave you as soon as she gets bored of you, or soon as she's taken what she wants from you. The quality of women has never been lower than it is now. And yet their expectations of you, the man, have never been higher. Does that sound like a fair system? I sure as hell don't think it is.
THIS. Doesn't surprise me is not a popular comment. That's the reality with no copping. We guys, need to stop blaming and focus on our weakness (my God, we are just humans and this is leading to narcisism). Women DO NOT LOVE men. This is the harsh truth you all trying yo avoid.
It is very important after you take the Black Pill you must understand that you must limit your investment in women and relationships. As they say "she's not yours, it's just your turn."
thats the real blackpill my dude. you cant win with females no matter what you do, brendan fraser/brad pitt/johny depp/will smith/tom cruise. doesnt matter how alpha you are
@@thetruthhurts9750 yes. For me the solution is to pay for play. If "love" comes easily to my way I try to have fun but nothing serious (no children, no marriage and probably not cohabitation). I can not love now, because I don't trust them anymore.
Everything is correct...women are as they are...their nature.But who is most affected is the average guy,it really isn't fair,in the other hand Chad is having the time if his life,as soon as a woman starts to play games He dumps her for a better younger and hoter girl and her too after that,and the next one etc...Because He have an upper hand,just like a woman have on average Man.
The end of the day, you just have to look at the advantages you have over guys who are married or score. 1. More time for friends. 2. More time for hobbies. 3. No social pressure to maintain an image 4. Less or no drama. 5. Work on your own wisdom.
Bro marriage is no longer an end game for men, in the modern western world marriage is a scam and legal theft in many ways. Being single is better for men to keep their finances, and sanity, so marry your purpose not women.
I never took the black pill or had heard of it when I was younger (I am 30 now) but I came into the same conclusions by myself. I realised it quite early into my dating life that women only date up and I started to instinctively avoid girls higher than me. I didn't even think about a numerical scale but it was just what I naturally did. I think when I was around 20 years old I was about 5/10 as I never really got much positive attention from girls but no negative behaviour either. I had already lost my virginity when I was 15 with a 3/10 girl (which I kept as a secret from my friends). At 20 I got a bartending job at the most popular nightclub (for 18 year olds or so) in my city, so it basically socialmaxxed me as I became somewhat popular through work. I also started to have money for the first time in my life and at the same time I had started going to the gym. Counting all these factors in I would say I went up to a 7/10 but when all the other guys (customers at the club) were acting like fools when smashed drunk, I would start occasionally receiving the treatment of a 8/10, since I would get numbers from girls approaching me during my shifts and even had 2 threesomes (after my shifts). This became a bit of a ramble, but my point is that for 5/10 guys the maxxing side of things can be MAJOR, since as wheat said, the difference of 1 and especially 2 points can be astronomical.
Manhood is more than just searching to fit into boxes like all these "pills". Build yourself into a man of character and strength, be always a man of your word and master some useful skills that you can put in the service of others and you will have a fulfilling life. Expect similar traits from the woman in your life and you will have a chance to a lifelong relationship, where both of you will thrive. If you are interested in topics related to manhood and masculinity, feel free to challenge yourself with some ideas on the Mastery Order Channel and, of course, challenge back if you have other points of view. Looking forward to your opinions. All the best to you!
Honestly the blackpill has been a net positive in my life. No more bs about dating and relationships being personality and confidence. Sure you should be confident, but at your level. If you over do it you're just seen as arrogant. Sad truth but knoweldge can only benefit you. So the only way to increase your chances are through looksmaxing + working on your health, finances, social and other skills. It's interesting to compare results before and after, through the months and the years if someone implements these things. I like the simplicity in the black pill.
Black pill freed me from the depressive mental prison of believing that the things I was saying through text and interactions was what determined my failure or success, stressing and wasting my days thinking about what smart thing to say next to the girl on tinder who would have stopped replying anyway. Believing it sends you into the swamp of pick-up advice which usually leads you to do and say things out of character which ultimately makes you come across as strange. Of course what you say matters to an extent, for me now 'game' is just not being weird and moving things forward and I've seen massive improvements. Thanks Wheatwaffles.
Yup Game is just being experienced with knowledge in life where it can be acknowledged and used properly through Social skills……..”Going with the flow” always gets me more girls than “forcing” it with perceived “Game” which is actually a attempt to deceive or manipulate someone, let it always happen naturally because it’s always better that way
I have 1 chad friend,well not directly my friend, he's my youngest cousin friend, he gets hit on by female all the time, and his younger than me, I'm in my 30's and ripped af, he's only 17-18 and skinny but he has a good looking face. I'm supposed to be more successful than him in the dating game, I'm more experienced, more mature, I have more money and my own place, yet he LIVES WITH PARENTS,don't have a dime, nor game and still he's killing it with women, gets all the stares from women in public, I'm just like dude stop, that's enough for you lol, but the problem here is women, they're chosing him again and again, I can put in more effort yet women still go for him. If this didn't proofed me blackpill is real then I don't know what would. A year ago I was one of those blackpill haters who just called them incels for being losers, but it took 1 guy to open my eyes on how much looks matter, now I see it all the time in public, now that I think back I did had blackpill experiences most of my life since I'm not good looking. It's crazy how soceity brainwashed me into thinking so naive. Social media is FULL of lookism, many people taking selfies for compliments, many people are super concerned about their appearance in modern day yet I still thought looks didn't mattered? I mean, how was I lost for so long! LOL. Why was I in denial. I'm just blown away. I'm not a big fan of being inside a "pill" community, it just sounds goofy, but I have herd black/red/white pill but blackpill just sounded new, I knew something was wrong, I knew something was missing, I've continuously told myself what does this guy have that I don't, yet I didn't know what it was but it was there all along, why I didn't I saw it before is beyond me. It's just painfuly obvious now.
I keep realizing that women do not appreciate hard work and effort, only results. They’ll take a good result from luck over a slightly worse option that was fought for and earned. Men, I find, appreciate effort, even if it results in failure.
That’s why men love sports since they love and appreciate the efforts and work that goes into achieving. Most women do not like sports. They are interested in expensive shoes, handbags and ladies night out to hunt for chad. Very simple.
This is one of the most straightforward and realistic breakdown of what your expectations should be when it comes to dating and self improvement, in relation to dating. I really like how you also made it clear that a lot of redpill content creators regurgitate recycled information withouting adding any value to it by further explaining how one can act on this information and actually make it work for them in real life.
I love your videos. I love that they arent clickbait, and they arent full of emotional yelling/screaming/mocking others to make a point, just straight logical.
The RP isn't just self improvement snake oil it's also a very cynical view of male female relationships where dishonesty and manipulation are legitimate and warranted. The nice thing about the BP is that it clarifies the biologically deterministic factors which actually decide your romantic success so in a horseshoe theory kind of way you can just be nice and be yourself again because behavior doesn't matter. Believe me it doesn't.
Basically if you're a sub 5 looking guy, your chances of getting an attractive GF are very slim to none. You can put in a little effort & get a sub 5 GF but she's only gonna be with you for 2 reasons. #1 because Chad don't want her #2 because you have some resources to offer. The relationship will be transactional. Unless you're Chad hot, where a girl is super attracted to you. The relationship is transactional, it even ends up transactional for Chad if he ends up committing to her.
Tbh blackpillers are wrong in something which is that relationship with CHAD isn't transactional. Once CHAD looses his looks he faces the life same as an average normie. Good looking people when they start loosing their looks they suddenly become very wise and try to be "Holier than though" presenting themselves as someone with a massive transformation whereas they simply lost their "Pretty Privilege". Examples: Connor Murphy, Paulina Porizkova.
then why is it that I am a 5 at best but i've had 2 long term GF's that were 7's? Looks are definitely the most important factor, i'm certainly not delusional, but a good personality can also be extremely attractive to a woman!
@@AmbientWanderer It's not even really like you have to have a good personality. You just have to not approach women like they are an NPC from a video game who has programmed behaviors. Plus 7 is a good goal I think. Anything above that is just more trouble than it's worth. I say women aren't robotic and predictable, but all the pretty and popular people actually are the same.
‘Just be confident bro’ my homie is fat, balding and just honestly ugly. But he doesn’t give a damn and will ask a girl’s number. He just gets mocked and laughed at.
i left the dating world and decided to pursue my dream in powerlifting and beat the records in my country . I advice everyone to have a dream and put 100% of work in that and you will see that you won t have any time or energy to do something else . Girls won t make you happy , but seeing yourself achieving your dream makes you happy.
@@sohamsingh9379 bench 120kg , squat 150kg, deadlift 200kg pretty weak but i only started going to the gym 2 months ago , i hope in a year or so i will double my current numbers
@@trauma7777 you're just a child but understand my language? Wow you're way ahead of your time! You even understood my misspell and I'm just a teen, wow impressive 👏
a story for you: I do mma and a girl has recently arrived, I would say an 8/9 beautiful face and great body .. when she realized that there has been a chad to train with us for years (vote 8 abundant) she started to always train with him extra workout, to take a shower in the gym (before she washed at home and was the first to go away), and she always waits for him..yes..I think you're right after all
Agreed wheat. Same. I had 0 success too. The black pill teaches where you stand, how far you can elevate. Teaches you to be realistic and not waste your time chasing girls that you don't stand a chance in getting. Makes your dating approach more efficient which equals more success
2:46 NOTE: If you take time to respond by pretending to be busy, she will also test whether you're actually busy and she WILL know just so she confirms that you are actually the person she wants you to be. And for your own good, you should be busy.
My advice, Don't respond to a "text"......I tell women if you want me, call me voice to voice. And leave it up to them.....if they are interested, they will call you voice to voice.
i mostly agree, i just recently (after downloading multiple dating apps) realized how important looks are, now that i found that out, i have started exercising and getting into shape. Even if online dating doesnt go my way, i still want a good and fit body for summertime next year
I would say I'm 50% blackpill and 50% refilled, I believe that having blackpill awareness is good, and redpill improvement based on your awareness is the way to go, I'm highschool at 14 and I'm a normies like most people, not the sub fives who have really bad acne and stuff like that, so if your a normie, that's what you should have
@@Returntonature145 but if you're completely blackpilled, then that means you agree that no matter what improvement you make, it amounts to nothing, that's why I'm half and half, genetics play a big factor, but self improvement is just as important
I am 45 at present, and of course I am not as hot as I used to be... looking back I can see all the girls that really liked me. Love letter, looks, awkwardness of the girls parts... I was clueless. Even now, there are many things I could do, and have started doing since listening to Mr waffles... looks matter so so very much... The girls will say it outright, if they think you're attractive then you can say whatever you like, and they will like it. I was once blue pilled, I thought girls were more into character, more into stability than boys, and knew how into looks guys are... Brush your teeth, wear nice clothes, get a skill and show it off, disregard the showie girls for that's all they care for... care for yourself, at all times as in boxing, and live your life for you and not others. Never lead with your wallet, never chase, just be you, and understand yourself. View women as human beings, full of all the terribly terrific horror of living a life. Live your life, for you. Do maxilifacial exercises to change your cranial bone structure, it works. Frown, and a frown will form on the skin of your face. Smile, and the world will smile with you. Lastly, enjoy yourself, and the world will enjoy you... but, at least, you will enjoy yourself.
I attempted Game before I knew I was a 3 physically, and on the spectrum to boot. It didn't go as planned --- I just came across as being a jerk. And frankly, redpill tactics are just the polar opposite of my personality; if I were to attempt Game, it'll clearly look forced. I also attempted redpill tactics in my daily life, and friends & family started wondering what was wrong with me and why was I being so obnoxious. When you're an ugly man, you don't want to be seen or heard, and if your existence is acknowledged, you're expected to be nice and docile (why do you think men described as 'creepy' are always 3 and below in looks, whereas I knew a Chad-tier guy that sent a girl weird porn and she thought it was hilarious) --- that's one of the brutal blackpill realities. Game convinces a girl to like you, which rarely ends well if you're average looking ---- the relationship is destined to fail (i.e. paternity fraud, divorce rape, monkey branching etc.); in contrast, guys 8 and up can have their lives in disorder and girls will still remain loyal. Personal experience: a good-looking Tyrone co-worker once advised me to "just be myself", he meant well, but he fails to understand that in dating, he rarely ever needed to do any work - in his case, one female coworker asked him out, and another one stalked him. I just focus on my copes and hobbies.
Fk that, it just makes me want to domestic violence the shit out of them, when i'll get them, i will abuse the shit out of them, a lesson to them for ruinning my 20's.
Yeah unfortunately that's how it works. "Game" works wonders if you're a 9/10 in the looks department, but if you're an average guy and try "game" you just come across as creepy and/or a jerk.
As from personal experience, yes. I am quite an attractive man(8-8.2/10) and when I was bluepilled or even redpilled, I thought that my chivalrous behaviour would be viewed as positive by girls and that it's the right thing to do. Now, after I'd received a couple of harsh lessons from life, I abuse my looks to the max and it works like a charm
@@nikita424 I'm sure I'm in 8 category face wise although I'm below 6ft. I did well with dating or work situations, but as things should be balanced, you either get more enemies or few enemies but stronger. In terms of dating some girls would literally reject me because she's afraid I'll cheat on her. I failed job interviews not because of my skills, but because they wanted to put me into a position I don't want. Applied as a warehouse coordinator, gets offered marketing and PR positions, refused, not getting called next day. Not sure what you meant with "harsh lessons in life" though, but in my experience your looks could detriment some goals you got in mind. On a positive side, it only means that thing/place/relationship isn't for me so I won't waste my time.
Ecclesiastes 1:18 For with much wisdom comes much sorrow; the more knowledge, the more grief. The greater my wisdom, the greater my grief. To increase knowledge only increases sorrow. For in much wisdom is much vexation, and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.
i remember reading an article that pre agriculture 1 man reproduced every 17 women.... so basically throughout history minority of males passed on the blood lines...
@@joeswanson733 also by force though. If you had the strenght to defeat other men, it didn't matter that much how good looking you were. If you had status and vigor, the woman had to submit. It isn't quite like that today, but those times might come back.
@@Michael_the_Drunkard well if you read enough from TH-cam comment and forums those types of conditions are every womans worse nightmare in their own word. I have no opinion as whatever happens happens it's behind our control
I'm 5'8, have a receding chin, a big nose, acne scars, and I'm balding. There is really no hope for me. As an ugly man I can tell you, it sucks, but you can learn to live with it. My best advice is let your right hand be your best friend, if you know what I mean. It helps tremendously with the pain of being lonely.
My opinion: First impression is very important, but genes (looks, height, etc.) and being fit matters a lot. It allows a fast check opportunity to have an interaction and being considered by a woman (sexual desire). Courage, openness and extraversion improve the interaction (a worthy experience and security). Conscientiousness (goal-directed, persistent, and organized) and intelligence represents potential growth and achievements. (performance and resources). You can have traits mentioned and still do not meet woman criteria list, not even a chance if genes and being fit are not met (however as woman ages, it becomes less important on her selection criteria)
Now I realized that the past time I went on a discotheque I started to blackpilling myself and you helped me reach that level even faster so thank you man.
Most of these things happened to me at a certain age, the only difference, I was not a virgin, but yeah, if you don't maintain all your things (Looks, status, money, etc.), most modern women will leave you after a short while. In my case I was earning more money, but was stressed from my job, I was also starting to loose hair. That was around 10 years ago. In those last 10 years, there were around 3 years where I was kind of lost and did not know what to do, but after that I was much better off, from where I started. I think I had my fair share of girlfriends and occasional hook ups in that time, so I can't complain. Currently I am kind of in monk mode. I know some girls that I could visit or even some that I could you know... but that does not help me out on the long run. I don't know how long I can control myself. I guess I will have to get the tension out one day with someone....
So, working hard to maximize my looks, after years, I finally achieved becoming a ... 3 ...so, then I waited to attract a level 2 female, and once I did, finally left my old lady who was a 0 ... the moral of my story is "desperate times call for desperate measures" (hope my 2 chick never sees this)
Terrific vid. Red + black pill - we need to give it a name (like maroon pill) because these two go hand-in-hand to help us 'normies' (as WW says) understand both where we stand with women, and how to deal with them successfully. Women are just as shallow as men when it comes to looks, and at the same time, they want to date up, so all the other things that aren't so important to men (like her income, career, etc) matter to them. So either date below your SMV, or make the decision that the fruit you can manage to pluck ain't worth the squeeze. Either way, never be fooled into thinking women fall in love with their hearts and love you for who you are, and the sacrifices and attention you give them...that will set you up for heartache, brothers.
Don't worry about validation woman. You have to care with you. Your life can not be decided for the girls You can change your body, your financial life, girls will never be satisfied
This is my exactly my experience with women as a 28 yr old divorced US Army Veteran. I have since self improved since my divorce. I got fit, increased my finances over time, tried game and still no success. I learned about the Blackpill and all the content just makes sense. Especially through my experiences in life. Wheat Waffles is a prophet
I've been single for almost 11 years. My life devolved into a miserable mess of loneliness, self-hatred, and alcoholism. Last year I got sober. I lost 60 pounds. I started eating right and I work out every day, even if it's just pushups. I upped my financial situation, too. I paid off all my debt, I found a higher paying job, and I'm on track to make over $100,000 this year. I have changed and improved every metric of my life. The constant? I am still invisible to women. I'm bald, so that's the biggest factor completely out of my control.
For some of the guys with significant facial issues, a receding chin, post acne skin, large nose, etc. those imperfections can be changed through plastic surgery, but, obviously, men need to have money for this approach. "Foreign" plastic surgery options cost 1/4 the price of UK or USA surgeons. I'm surprised that the vlogger did not list plastic surgery as an option. Plastic surgery is the means for moving dramatically from a low number to a 5 or 6. This topic is worthy of it's own vlog. Regarding "looks:" (black pill), for bad breath I find that "Tic-toks" or Altoids that dissolve in your mouth rather than gum, that has to be either spit out or swallowed, is, practically, a much better breath mint. Regarding after-shave---I strongly recommend a high quality cologne rather than after-shave, because the scent lasts much longer. Men, go to a department store and ask some of the women behind the counter their recommendations after you try various brands. Women can smell how the cologne interacts with your own skin and also give you advice about what they tend to like and not like. You also have a say! Some smells won't work for you. 2. for advice on your "looks" I STRONGLY recommend Alex Costa's channel---he is based out of Los Angeles and focuses heavily on "Looks" in terms of hair, face grooming and clothing.
As an incel turned father, you're doing it wrong. The facts are; game is a myth, you need to fix your mental health, stop taking relationships analytically unless you want one with another man, feel rather than think. Pay attention to when people feel uncomfortable around you. Make "Find a girl who I like to be around and likes to be around me" a higher priority than "having sex". The rest comes with time. Every point when you bring up bettering yourself, your biggest counter is "I felt lost and confused". That literally means you don't know how to better yourself. Start with mental health. I promise, poor mental health is a lot more unattractive than than a gut or soft face.
COPE. Larp as an Incel. Incels aren't Incels cuz of lack of game or personality, but rather "LOOKS". Advice for Chads will never work out for a 3/10. You weren't an Incel, but you thought you were.
@@ritishakapoor1513 An incel is an incel until they get romantically inclined And what he said makes 100% sense, taking relationships analytically is cringe, and when this channel talks about bettering yourself to be a "chad" it should start with mental health, the "blackpill" is a SUPER unattractive mindset, its not even a meme, people are acting like its a grounded science yes always exercise and you'll find someone, just don't dismiss them by the things they can't change and they will do the same for you or just declare your life over and act like the blackpill is freeing, whatever
@@briskettacos yeah, i doubt that. I have two sisters, whom I love, and who love each other. They bicker all the time and even had a falling out that lasted a decade. I somewhat recently called out the sister who I suspected of holding the grudge, and to her credit the two of them cleared it up. I have hundreds of female friends, I love them. I want them to be happy. Honestly I do think that certain women should not be listened to, that they give bad advice to 'the sisterhood' and seek to lead younger women down a very unhappy path. Don't project on us men something that you yourself feel. The quote was a quote, the second sentence was only two words and important for anyone, not the least of which is yourself. Understand yourself.
Looks are the key to get through the door with online dating and cold approach. If you don’t have those, you won’t get in. Personality and social skills are what sustains a relationship. They also can be more important than looks in social circle situations which let’s face it, is the best way to get into a relationship with a woman. If you aren’t a top tier dude like seriously within the top 5% of guys, do not bother with online dating.
I like what WW said during the first streamed debate with Hamza. "One can self-improve, but only if there is a good enough genetic material to beging with, otherwise what the progress gonna achieve". I believe in this red+black pill .
There's one standard that women have that I don't care how hard you work on yourself, stay on your grind, focus on your goals or stay on your purpose that you can't fix is your height. I never realized how important it is to women that a man needs to be 6'+ and they shame men that are below that and tried to hit on them when it's completely out of our control (genetic lottery losers).
This. I am everything maxxed at 30 but I am five foot four. I am expecting to lose my virginity at around 40 to 50 when clearly women no longer value how you look like. Except I will be banging hookers by 35 and will never allow a thot in my inner sanctuary.
Wheat, I went through the exact same experience. Once I was Black Pilled, I focused on myself and paid little attention to women out of my league and the women within my league started to approach me. Then boom, got laid. So in my opinion, the Black Pill is life saving
Black pill: - Know where you're at (realistic approach) - See yourself climbing the scale - Small improvement are big - Freedom to focus on other areas Red pill: - Just do the work! Make money. Hit the gym, learn game, and women will follow. Be confident! RP surely might work for some guys, but it won't work for the majority of them. BP on the other hand, works for almost every individual.
I think people who try really hard to get a girl always fail in one way or another. Either they lose interest in girls cuz they don’t care about their personality or can’t get no one cuz they focus on picking up girls and not keeping them. Be patient, kind, good listener and confident. Don’t chase just wait for the opportunity.
@@Based556 i was on a vacation with 3 of my friends, it’s sort of a tradition that we go to a lake every year in august and stay in a summer lodge for a few days. We usually buy some drinks and play poker or some sort of games, then go to the beach play some futball or volleyball and go for a swim. One night we went to to beach and we were pretty drunk. So we’ve been just talking and shit when two girls approached us. They asked if we had a lighter? Well we didn’t but i offered some of my vodka to the cute blonde. Then we went to gather some wood to make a campfire and we had a chat. Then she invited all of us to her summer apartment so we could have some snacks and more drinks. We went out to the balcony cuz she wanted to smoke. I never smoke but i wanted to be with her. We talked a lot and eventually we had our first kiss. Then we went stargazing and kissed a bunch. The next day i texted her, that i’d like to know her better and we can meet on the beach. She agreed and we’ve had a great time playing volleyball. Then we went on a couple of dates and got together, still going strong.
2 months into a break up and I’m more relaxed than ever and having more fun than I did in that relationship. We all try so hard to get with a girl only for them to make us miserable.
One of the greatest things about the black pill is the realization that the whole dating game really has nothing to do with you as a person. Attraction is purely based on objective factors that you may or may not be able to improve. If all girls essentially just want chad then I can't take it personally if she rejects or accepts me based on that fact alone. What only remains is to take a sincere and honest look at yourself, about where you stand right now, SMV-Wise and determine wether it is worth it to work on yourself or just give up. The "harsh" reality is in fact, that not everyone is supposed to make it. So there isn't even any shame in admitting to yourself that "it's over". Anyways, it's time to looksmaxx for me and go from a 6 to a 9. Let's go.
**LIVE DEBATE TONIGHT 9PM UK TIME** Thanks for watching guys. If you want to keep up with more content I am having a debate on the Playing With Fire channel tonight at 9pm UK time. We will be debating Redpill Vs Blackpill. I have debated Alex from Playing With Fire before but the debate is NOT against him, Alex will only be moderating and the debate will be against some other TH-camr who says he both agrees and disagrees with parts of my content. Hope to see you over there.
I'll be sure to tune in.
Is your opponent a non redpill/blackpill channel? Maybe a political channel? Having one of those "Left" or "Right" or "Center" politics channels debating you could be huge for popularising blackpill if played well
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Tbh, I respect Wheat and Alex equally and watch both of them. Looking forward to the debate
My coworker was talking to a girl and a homeless man with missing teeth tried to hit on here. He said "doesn't this guy see the difference between him and her?" Alluding to how a homeless man trying to get with an attractive employed woman. I told him, "That's what happens when they tell guys to be confident. They become confident in their delusions."
lool
Accurate. Love this.
Pretty sure that homeless was just messing around.
@@thebluescaptain No dude, the amount of delusion and lack of awareness on some guys is just out of this world
@Louis Tea EnjoyerAnd there are people who have survived gun shots to the head. Doesn't help to convince the rest of us we'll be fine.
Black pill awareness + red pill mentality puts you at an elite level.
This is what I believe all Normie’s should adhere too
What Is Red Pill Mentality ?
@@avereso the faith and certainty that it’s possible to achieve your objectives, regardless of what data may imply. At least that’s how I see it.
@@xxxlisandroxxx98 That's red pill logic according to PUA's. The MRA's and MGTOW also have their brand of red pill logic. So you are lumping the PUA strategy as the sum total of red pill which is a fallacy.
@@avereso he covered it in this video
Take the blackpill, but not the extended release. Get the knowledge, file it in the back of your mind, but don't take it to the grocery store with you. Don't stare at couples at the mall and compare their facial ratios and predict if the relationship will last on the aggregate. Look after your thought life and don't OD on blackpills.
Too late. I've already overdosed on black pills.
That’s extremely important advice gentleman. Work on yourself, the rest will follow.
That happened to me when I just found content like this. I started analyzing faces while walking outside, in school etc. Its extremely autistic
I mean this advice isn't wrong, I personally think it depends on where you stand on the looks scale. If you're normie tier or at the lowest a 3 then maybe looksmaxxing can help and you shouldn't give up, just keep the blackpill in the back of your mind when dealing with women. If lower though, well I hate to tell anyone to become defeatist, but the most realistic view is that looksmaxxing won't help unless it brings you up to like a 4 or above (if that's possible) and it's then followed up with geomaxxing which probably isn't a realistic goal if like most subhuman guys you don't make great income.
God damn, it’s like you know exactly how my mind works after overdosing in this channel.
I always find it funny when guys say “I don’t understand girls bro, they ghost for no reason bro, it’s like they don’t even know what they want bro”. No, they know exactly what they want and there’s always a reason why she ghosts. That reason is usually that she thinks you’re unattractive. She was sitting at home bored and wanted some extra validation so she started texting you and decided to lead you on. Then chad texted her back so she ghosts you. Brutal, it truly is over boyos.
You just posted this same exact comment on another BP video yesterday
Being unattractive takes many forms. Are you speaking of physical attractiveness? If so, that's not 'usually' the case. But, yes, does occur. Non-304 vvuhmen look for compatibility. They're not all looking for a Chad.
@@Oh_So_Based mfs have to see the truth
@@Oh_So_Based ironic, he ended up being the one looking for attention and validation
@@mrw0lf364 imagine getting mad over a TH-cam comment. That’s how you know it’s over😂
The problem with the blackpill is that once you take it, there is no going back.
You start seeing everything through the blackpill because it explains so much - things that happened in your past, how people react to you etc.
I've been constantly trying to block this knowledge out of my mind for months now but life constantly reminds you - I work at a university and just watched my co-workers get Chadstruck by 6"4 student.
I've become obsessed with the black pill to an unhealthy degree. I can't stop looking at my own face in the mirror wondering how I could possibly improve it. And now researching plastic surgery, something that never even occurred to me until now.
@@rexx9496 bruutaal
The blackpill that Waffles represents isn't pure blackpill.
Here are some principles of the true blackpill that he doesn't believe:
1. It's over. Just give up dating.
2. Game does not matter at all. Looks is your game.
Meanwhile, some of the "blackpill" beliefs that he believes are actually redpill beliefs. Here are some of them:
1. Looksmaxxing
2. Geomaxxing
The reason why those two are considered redpill beliefs is because those require work, which is the core of redpill principles, to do extra work so you can get your partner. One of the beliefs that redpill has is "Be the best version of yourself". Waffles thinks that redpill does not believe that looks is important, which is false. Dating coaches may think that, but some redpill non-dating coach people like Alexander Grace and Darius M believe that looks is important.
Blackpill principles are represented by the color, which means blackpill principles are mostly about pessimism and apathy.
From his beliefs, he's actually a very strong redpiller, around 66% redpill and 33% blackpill.
@@rexx9496 I completely understand brother.
You can't unsee the truth.
It takes over your mind.
I think this is how other people feel when learning some harsh truths.
Blackpill is not about negativity or giving up, it is about being realistic instead of delusional.
It's just that everything relationships is much more negative than most people hope for. So what's actually the dog's honest truth, sounds like unnecessary pessimism for a lot of people.
Facts
Facts. I once read "The Game" by Neil Strauss, and for a bit in my college years I was kind of red-pilled. But deep down I've always been aware that your "game" really doesn't mean jack shit if women don't find you attractive.
Blackpill redpill this pill that pill quite litterally just shows how disconnected yall r from reality this isn't realistic it's yall gaslighting yourself into thinking it is
@@user-hp6pj4sy3k EXACTLY. You can't fucking persuade a women to like you with your "words." You could be very socially competent and good with word, but if you're ugly you get nowhere with women.
Being black pilled isn't so bad. It only means your expectations and goals are more realistic. Some may call it cope, but I'm not unhappy.
Wheat waffles is becoming red pilled now
@@marcoslightspeed5517 that's life. Everyone starts off at one extreme and slowly get more balanced as life goes on
@@marcoslightspeed5517 HES NOT REDPILL IF ANYTHING 🍊🧡🏆 BECAUSE ORANGE IS THE NEW BLACC AINT FINNA SIT ROUND BE SAD & DARC ALL DA TIME ADD SUM SUNSHINE TO YOUR SHADOW ⭐️🅿️
@@marcoslightspeed5517 Redpillers are the extreme just because wheat waffles believes in self improvement doesn’t means he’s redpill, people wanna do nothin and still get girls nah it don’t work like that….. that’s blackpill
@@MAGACOPP Life itself is cope for death
Chad doesn't need to be blackpilled. He just says "just be yourself" and "just be confident bro". This advice works .....for Chads.
Chads can afford to remain on the blue pill.
Love your vids. Thank God I have my father's genetics (he was a bodybuilder) and his "Rico" looks.
That's basically the criticism that I have had for the entire set of advice that Rollo Tomassi gives. He has really solid information, but a lot of the advice is only partially useful for the average guy, and almost entirely useless for the below average guy.
@@DamazViccar When you're not challenged to change....there's no point to change. I'd go a step further and say that it's easy to remain complacent and enjoy life when life is good to you.
that sounds like Robert Redford when he criticizes Hollywood celebrities for having plastic surgeries. He simply may not need any so he can say that.
People who think the blackpill is about giving up simply haven't actually listened to the content properly. It's about self improvement with a realistic outlook on the world and human behaviour.
bro that's redpill !!!
@@devol_1 i think classic redpill usually focus on things like money and body if you understand blackpill and you want to improve you can do other things like surgery
Surgery is not mentioned that much on redpill channels
@@devol_1 no its not red pill LMAO - red blue is the new blue pill
@@devol_1 the redpill also makes low value men delusional about their success prospects.
@@johnsysays blackpill isn’t just for incels
Mans goes straight to the point. No bullshit talking like many clickbait TH-camrs wasting our time.
Most of TH-cam is a time waste. Including this channel.
@@BigLeagueDrew lmao incel
@@BigLeagueDrew this channel is needed lmao
@@Jedilord882 A hobby is what you need
@@BigLeagueDrew been playing piano and drawing/painting since I was 5. Your move 🤷🏽♂️
My wife of 6 months left me, it turns out she only married me because I gave her American citizenship because she is from Columbia. If it seems too good to be true, then it probably is.
live and learn.
@@jonc3214 Yeah man it sucks, on top of that she's dating another dude now who is probably a chad-lite.
Can't bring em here. Gotta go to their country lolll. But yeah, that sucks. Sorry dude.
lol i thought all americans knew that if some foreign chick is interested in them, thats probably to their citizenship. i say that as a guy from the developing country btw
@@shinysun7071 i believe you. That's probably because it takes forever anyway else outside of marrying some old dude from the west.
For normies, blackpill gives hope and actual valid results if the *proper* work is put in. For incels, it frees you from the burden of trying to reach an unobtainable dream and also puts you at peace with yourself. It also protects you from scammers and potentially embarrassing yourself and destroying reputation. The blackpill is an absolute win in my opinion because people need to know the truth regardless of whether they like it or not. Delusion is more dangerous than understanding your limits.
subfives can soft and hard looksmaxx to get to normie level. If that cannot be obtained then yes I agree
@@sorthist9007cope 🤡
@@kirilzz Not cope if what is keeping you in subfive can be fixed by surgery. Then you are the one coping for refusing to work and save for said surgeries.
And for Chad's the blackpill is a good ego boost and makes you respect your body, to see what other people go through that aren't blessed like Chad.
@@sorthist9007 why don’t all femcels also get surgery? Make the playing field even.
After taking black pill I feel I am finally free from the rat race , no longer worry about gettin laid or about girls, I just sit back and enjoy my life .
cope
@Alex 💯
Good for you. For me, getting girls has become an obsession.
@@uioyf7586 well cope means to deal successfully with a difficult matter or situation and there is nothing bad in it...its sensible
@@uioyf7586 It's not cope. Eventually you will get older and it just isn't that serious anymore.
I used to genuinely think looks did not matter a decade ago. What a fool I was!
It didnt matter 40 years ago, it matter now in the modern globalized and superficial society.
Looks matter most
@@savager9936 it always mattered,just that other things mattered more
@@savager9936 as an older man, I assure you it always mattered. I had a college roommate who was an uber chad, he was dull, monotone and had no game, but he got all the pussy on campus. I benefited by just being around him and getting the friends of the girls he was seeing.
@@zimasajam money and social standing matters the most.
Red pill coaches are just like faith healers. If their scam doesn't work on you they say its because you just "don't have enough faith" in their scam you just "aren't believeing hard enough".
Bro it had a redpiller using somewhat redpill scriptures and quotes. He'd say things like " once you're ontop of ya game she wouldn't know why she came ". It's fukin hilarious actually how far some will go with ideologies 🤣
I don't know his name but he a Asian looking guy
Na, redpill have different sayings for people who don't believe in their stuff, they call you the worst a redpill could call a guy, they call you a "simp" or a "incel" or "white knight" and "beta" etc etc
@Endless Nameless I can't decide if you are making these stories up.
That's needed to keep the customers.
This is by far the most realistic outlook - a combination of the black pill (acceptance( and red pill (improvement). Accepting the black pill as reality is the first step. Once you've accepted reality then you can look for ways to improve and enhance your odds of success in the dating scene.
Great comment from Chad
Yeah I rank it like this:
You need black pill first to know how to get women to notice you.
You need Redpill next so women won't run the relationship or lose attraction.
Finally long term, you need blue pill to keep her emotionally connected so you won't be a jerk
This is blackpill not a 50/50 mixture, if you think simply improving yourself is redpill then you are mistaken. Redpill is Maxxin out so that you can get MANY woman. Blackpill is knowing your strengths and weaknesses so you know where to pacifically work on and so that you keep a realistic mindset. Redpill is for the playas and you cannot be a playa if you can’t even get one woman or if you only want one woman
@@mario125ww false that a good way to break it down but you really only need to be one, from the sounds of it you sound like a Redpill guy because you want to have knowledge= blackpill , Game= Redpill, Kindness = Bluepill………. If you want to be all three then you technically qualify as RedPill
I have basically same mind set. Foundation is black with some red on it.
The "pure/deep" black pill can be harmful if person falls into the "im short so im giving up" mentality. In mixture with red pill this should be avoided.
The blackpill is the only thing that makes sense out of the dating world today. I've NEVER seen a chad or anyone above a 7/10 struggle with their dating. I remember i was at a party once and I took the risk of asking 6 random guys how theyre dating life was going and all their answers matched with the one I had in my head. I could tell from their looks alone. Good luck trying to explain that with the "red pill"
You sounds like you're fun at parties
Wow I should try that
@@dutchmaster1999 bro you're on a blackpill channel, you should know the futility of being "fun" at party when you're sub 7, you'll just be seen as a jestermaxer
Nah, Chads are beginning to struggle too. Especially in the apps, a female coworker of mine showed me her matches on a couple of dating apps and I saw a good portion of Chads and 7 - 10/10 men texting her desperate messages.
7/10 is chadlite level. In order to compete with 8s and 9s, a guy needs to compensate a little with for example game, charisma, money, status etc.
The more attractive you are, the more “game” mistakes you can make. A normie will need perfect game and is still likely to get beat by a 7 with average “game”.
Or a chad with bipolar and Asperger’s
truee, while some are struggling hard trying to maintain frame and using all the tricks in the book, Chad just says hi and gets her booty.
ita better to be a black pilled because even if you struggle with dating, you won't embarrass yourself. A large percentage of men simp for women that don't want them
Indeed, and that's why I don't simp for women.
You are a coward, how can you take pride in this?
I was incredibly suicidal until I took the blackpill, the redpill had given me false hope for years and I was lost and felt like I was slipping away. Ever since I took the blackpill I have been able to set out realistic goals for my life. I understand that I will die alone and even though I can never get over that at least I am able to live a life where I don’t actively think about roping myself, I try and find things to distract myself from my loneliness such as travelling playing video games giving my dog attention watching anime etc
Fly over to SEA you will be a god and have your choice
There is a lot of high quality experiences beyond western ideas. Spirituality, self improvement, following the path of ideas and not falling into the trap of traditional thinking. There are more men that are known in history for following concepts or ideas, than man that are known for having intercourse.
Try and get into gaming
Have you tried self improvement?
2D girls ftw, lol
Just kidding. You can easily find friendships online these days. And can find friends in group activities, like volunteering, martial arts, clubs of some sort.
Don't take what life throws at you seriously, just go with the flow, and try new things.
I think the blackpill gives you the self-awareness to know your limitations and improve on them; it also gives you a realistic expectation of what you can get in the dating market. Unlike the redpill that tells men you can game your way into Stacy's pants - no it's not happening.
Technically you can game your way into “Stacy’s pants” it’s just that game will not work for everybody because some things cannot be taught. I’m a incel and I can say that Stacy can be gamed if you fit per say standard when it comes to Money, Looks, Social skills, status, or lifestyle…… nobody said getting girls was easy that’s why everyone can’t do it
You need to watch 33 secrets
@@gregpettis1113 you mean the guy with a recessed chin in his 30’s who still dresses like its the early 2000’s? Lmao dude lies to men, another typical PUA, more like 33 scams
@@HOODTROPHY2x Exactly. Escorts exist btw too for people who have some spare cash. if your goal was originally to get into a relationship with an attractive woman though....that's a lot harder and the real challenge. For sex, you just need to hold her attention for one night at least. For a relationship, you need her to really love and want you. She has to feel like she is getting the best deal.
@@justmonika2345 yea and this is why everyone is soon going to say goodbye to relationships because most guys think they want a “model” until they see what comes with having one and then come to a realization that most regular average guys don’t really want a “model” people just want what they can’t have to try and fill a void. Real men just want a compatible partner who is their type and also a loyal ride or die…….Any guy can pay for sex so sex isn’t anything that should be valued, what people are actually looking for is attention, validation and a connection
Red pill tells you just part of the story. The Black pill slaps you in the face and tells you the raw truth. (Some take this to the extreme) I would rather know the truth so I can fix things that I can and stop wasting time on things that I can't fix. Comforting lies just prolong the confusion, frustration, and agony. Knowing all this, life has never been better. I only wish I knew about this earlier.
Yup I don’t call it Blackpill once u move on I call it Orange because Orange is the new blacc adding sunshine to da shadows
@@HOODTROPHY2x I call it maroon pill as its the combination of black and red. 😅
@@HOODTROPHY2x yellow for much brighter days 💛 ✨️
Thats what i thought, Redpill channels says nice guys finish last, however all my friends are nice guys and they have a gf meanwhile i try to be the bad boy and having 0 results.
Nice guys don't finish last, ugly guys do.
Manhood is more than just searching to fit into boxes like all these "pills". Build yourself into a man of character and strength, be always a man of your word and master some useful skills that you can put in the service of others and you will have a fulfilling life. Expect similar traits from the woman in your life and you will have a chance to a lifelong relationship, where both of you will thrive.
If you are interested in topics related to manhood and masculinity, feel free to challenge yourself with some ideas on the Mastery Order Channel and, of course, challenge back if you have other points of view.
Looking forward to your opinions.
All the best to you!
Glad we agree Wheat, the Blackpill is invaluable in letting you know where you stand and once you know this you can adjust accordingly. Biggest takeaway I got from the community.
Agree totally.
Most $hit bags pretend that Black Pill is about doom because they want to keep men in a perpetual state of ignorance about female nature so that men can be taken advantage of.
Chad friend is sad for me. He sees some girls are into me, but I'm so jaded and disheartened that I turn them down, brutally sometimes depending on my mood. More than half of women have stds, more than half of them will divorce you for no good reason, and unless you're an 8 or higher, you're going to have to spend money on them one way or another.
It’s literally not worth it. Just rub one out and go about doing your own thing bro.
Doesn't it mean you're attractive if they ask you out tho?
Damn girls are into you?
Sounds like you are the Chad
As someone who lost a lot of his looks through a accident with face-changing consequences , I can say that the blackpill is really true. Is not that I am was a Chad before and not that a I am horribl eugly now , but my jaw and face got asymetries that I did not had before. Probably lost between 1 and 2 points. From a good 6 to a standard 5 i would say. Life is different down here.
It’s the hard truth man I know when I go bald I will be set back too because my head shape but we have to just focus on other natural and not materialistic things that we can bring to the table
From a 6 to a 4 is a brutal decline. At 6 you had a puncher's chance. 5 is still a significant drop.
@Endless Nameless yup so what do we do to save our egos ??? Money & success
@@HOODTROPHY2x but you still can make a capilar implant
No Plastic surgery?
I’d rather be told the truth than be comforted by lies
This is the truth that nobody tells you out of fear of hurting your feelings. It hurts more to have the truth withheld tho. BP lets you reframe reality in a realistic (ie healthy) way
Critical advice: Do NOT try cold approach if you're a non-Chad. No apps, no bar hopping with your clan of normies to "get lucky." If we all did this, the currency of male attention will go up in value, and on an individual basis, you'll save time so you can focus on maxing. Black pill leads to miserable nihilism or self-improvement; don't let it do the former.
Why do you care about dating anyway 'Hasan'? If you want a girl you can just get an arranged marriage to someone. Turns out many men actually want to be promiscuous but then they realise in a promiscuous society it's not them who has choice, it's the women.
If she finds you physically attractive, you just about don’t have to be dead and you’re fine.
You know what woman like more than someone there physically attractive too……. Someone who can take care of her so it’s gonna always go both ways that why Redpill preaches to be both even though most men will never be
@@HOODTROPHY2x beta buxxing means she likes your money and resources, not you.
Good looks provides halo effect, which means she thinks she actually likes your personality
@@themarathoncontinues4211 I never implied to being a succa or said anything about betabuxx, if a guy is a beta than he shouldn’t be in a relationship at all.
@@HOODTROPHY2x You are delusional bro.
@@sigerian1085 ur motha
BlackPill is just the harsh truth, but it is not harsh if you are a Chadlite+ (or tall high tire normie)
It is harsh trust me... Its like almost being hit by a speeding truck, its not a great feeling, but yeah perception is everything
You have no clue you just assume its easy. I dropped out 20 years ago.
I feel sad that people like you, aka blackpillers, get demonized and strawmanned on your views hopefully one day blackpill will unironically revolutionise dating market and make our lives easier
The problem is the government. They neeeeed those warm, lush, tax bodies.
@WoTiFix GTFO. You aren’t owed a sexual relationship.
@@Abcq755 they invented it, you dullard
@@georgiabulldog7671 Neither is anyone owed me slapping on a uniform when the Russians invade.
people are too high on the copium to accept the harsh reality. They'd rather hear a comforting lie than a harsh truth.
Being blackpilled can be tough, but its the truth. I have a severely recessed and asymmetric maxilla. I never smile, because it's physically hard for me to do, and it looks terrible (my own mother laughed at my smile once). Its excluded me from relationships, promotions, etc. I knew of this problem a long time ago, but the BP ideology led me to do something about it, so Im trying to surgerymaxx. I'm older, so its probably over for me, but I want to have a nice smile just once before I die. #nobodyasked
I had a lower jaw surgery at 19. Now I am 24 and still no luck with ladies but I am more comfortable smiling, talking and have more confidence. So get it done if you can, it also helps with teeth health and jaw pain
@@SimpleFarming05 ty for your reply. What did you have done exactly? I'm in braces now, and am having a lefort 1 next year. My mandible is structurally fine, but has shifted to meet my molars, as my upper jaw is recessed and too narrow. My two sets of teeth practically sit right on top of each other. As a result, my teeth are extremely jagged. I've been told to "just get veneers" but a dozen dentists told me it's not possible due to how bad my bite is. So im finally getting lefort to correct this enough to where I can get veneers. The BSSO scares me frankly. My current ortho believes that if my maxilla was forward and wide enough, then my mandibular asymmetry would correct itself over time. I'm just jealous of the 99.9999% of people who don't have to worry about this sort of thing. It's not covered by insurance in the USA, so I'm gonna spending 30-40k for this. This money comes from stemmaxxing. Hmmm, I wondered why I had to stemmaxx.... could my trash genetics from my trash DNA father have to do with it? I just wonder...
@@luxury5885 hmmm, I think it is called bimaxilliary orthognatic surgery or something like that. My lower jaw was to forward so my lower teeth were in front of the upper teeth. They moved my lower jaw back and upper jaw a bit forward. I don't want to scare you but it is tough for the first few months after surgery, especially the first month when you can only eat liquid food and can't talk. But I think that it was worth it in the end. I am lucky enough that I live in an European country and so it was covered by the insurance. I think only those that start with orthodontic procedure before 18 have it fully covered but still. Can't imagine paying 30k for it.
It is never too late. We only live once. I had crooked teeth that my parents never bothered to spend money and correct it. 20 years later, got the teeth and got jacked- what a world of difference
@@chilipepper9938 lol you are bluepilled go watch the video and get educated
I admire this content creator's honesty a lot. He deserves more subscribers that's for sure.
One of the harshest, coldest truths when it comes to getting women for us guys to rationalize is that its honestly not too dissimilar to how women think about and approach dating.
Women, just like men, are primarily going to be swooned by that immediate, visceral reaction to seeing someone. If you don't have any immediate, viscerally attractive traits then it's going to be very difficult, if not damn near impossible, to get anywhere with her.
All that stuff about text-timing and specific negging lines is tertiary to this. The hardest part, and biggest obstacle is just getting your foot in the door.
Basically you either exhude attractive qualities from minute one or you don't. It's nowhere near as complicated as people make it out to be.
Facts. They think like us, only that they are actually far harsher on looks. They select for genetic advantage way more
No where near as complicated as women make it out to be. They are the main ones pumping out this "confidence" "personality" bla bla bla into society.
💯💯💯
The black pill has made me realise not to force friendships relationship etc but the REDPILL has thought me to improve what you can finances physical appearance etc
There’s nothing in the blackpill that says you shouldn’t improve yourself. You should. But you should also know that if you’re below a certain looks threshold, no amount of self improvement will help you get a date. The blackpill is all the truth you’ll ever need.
That was a really good video and shows that Wheat Waffles isnt like the other blackpillers that say: "ITS OVER" hopeless. Literally the best black pill channel imo
I can't help but become emotional after listening to you today. I wish people were as truthful and authentic as you. The cynic might ingest your message negatively. I find your proposed truth as hopeful that I can finally reach some clarity in this complex life of relationships.
You know what the biggest black pill is? Knowing that even if you work at improving your looks, finances, and game to even the point where you look fit and handsome, you have a comfortable lifestyle, and you've developed all the charm and charisma you wanted, it won't guarantee you a quality woman. The quantity of women may increase. But not the quality of women. This is because no matter how much of a perfect man you are, you cannot improve the women in society. The issue with self improving just to get women is that it may feel good at first when you get a woman and enter a relationship. But because modern day western women are all so low quality in terms of their personality, she'll just end up dragging you down. All that self improvement will basically have just gotten you a crappy, miserable relationship where she'll bleed you dry of your finances, your mental wellbeing, and your physical health too. You may think being a so called high quality man will mean your woman will always stay loyal to you. But it guarantees you nothing. If the most handsome film stars, the fittest athletes, and the richest business men are all getting routinely screwed over in divorces by unfaithful women, what chance do you have? There's such an unnatural focus these days on getting men to self improve because the majority of us can't get girlfriends in this ridiculous, superficial, rigged modern dating market. But really, the need for self improvement needs to be put on women. How many women these days are virgins before they marry? Very few if none. How many even have a body count lower than 10 before they marry?.Very few if none. Just look at how many don't know how to, or are just simply unwilling to do even a basic gesture of kindness for a man like cook a meal for him. Even if a man holds such a basic expectation like that, look how women recoil in disgust and get bent out of shape about it. Look how many women these days are overweight and can't keep themselves in shape. Look at how many of them have deeply flawed personality issues, such as being narcissistic, manipulative, and disloyal. Look at how many of them are single mothers. And just look at how many cheat on their husbands. It's ridiculous making yourself into Mr superman just to wind up with a woman who will leave you as soon as she gets bored of you, or soon as she's taken what she wants from you. The quality of women has never been lower than it is now. And yet their expectations of you, the man, have never been higher. Does that sound like a fair system? I sure as hell don't think it is.
THIS. Doesn't surprise me is not a popular comment. That's the reality with no copping. We guys, need to stop blaming and focus on our weakness (my God, we are just humans and this is leading to narcisism). Women DO NOT LOVE men. This is the harsh truth you all trying yo avoid.
It is very important after you take the Black Pill you must understand that you must limit your investment in women and relationships. As they say "she's not yours, it's just your turn."
thats the real blackpill my dude. you cant win with females no matter what you do, brendan fraser/brad pitt/johny depp/will smith/tom cruise. doesnt matter how alpha you are
@@thetruthhurts9750 yes. For me the solution is to pay for play. If "love" comes easily to my way I try to have fun but nothing serious (no children, no marriage and probably not cohabitation). I can not love now, because I don't trust them anymore.
Everything is correct...women are as they are...their nature.But who is most affected is the average guy,it really isn't fair,in the other hand Chad is having the time if his life,as soon as a woman starts to play games He dumps her for a better younger and hoter girl and her too after that,and the next one etc...Because He have an upper hand,just like a woman have on average Man.
The end of the day, you just have to look at the advantages you have over guys who are married or score.
1. More time for friends.
2. More time for hobbies.
3. No social pressure to maintain an image
4. Less or no drama.
5. Work on your own wisdom.
Well said bro
Bro marriage is no longer an end game for men, in the modern western world marriage is a scam and legal theft in many ways. Being single is better for men to keep their finances, and sanity, so marry your purpose not women.
This is not a cope, this is ascending your potential.
@@rao2398 cope
I never took the black pill or had heard of it when I was younger (I am 30 now) but I came into the same conclusions by myself. I realised it quite early into my dating life that women only date up and I started to instinctively avoid girls higher than me. I didn't even think about a numerical scale but it was just what I naturally did.
I think when I was around 20 years old I was about 5/10 as I never really got much positive attention from girls but no negative behaviour either. I had already lost my virginity when I was 15 with a 3/10 girl (which I kept as a secret from my friends).
At 20 I got a bartending job at the most popular nightclub (for 18 year olds or so) in my city, so it basically socialmaxxed me as I became somewhat popular through work. I also started to have money for the first time in my life and at the same time I had started going to the gym. Counting all these factors in I would say I went up to a 7/10 but when all the other guys (customers at the club) were acting like fools when smashed drunk, I would start occasionally receiving the treatment of a 8/10, since I would get numbers from girls approaching me during my shifts and even had 2 threesomes (after my shifts).
This became a bit of a ramble, but my point is that for 5/10 guys the maxxing side of things can be MAJOR, since as wheat said, the difference of 1 and especially 2 points can be astronomical.
Having to self-improve to get a low-tier woman that doesn’t need to do anything to have value is the ultimate BP. I just don’t even bother trying.
Manhood is more than just searching to fit into boxes like all these "pills". Build yourself into a man of character and strength, be always a man of your word and master some useful skills that you can put in the service of others and you will have a fulfilling life. Expect similar traits from the woman in your life and you will have a chance to a lifelong relationship, where both of you will thrive.
If you are interested in topics related to manhood and masculinity, feel free to challenge yourself with some ideas on the Mastery Order Channel and, of course, challenge back if you have other points of view.
Looking forward to your opinions.
All the best to you!
Bingo. Just pay an escort, it's easier, cheaper and the same result.
After all "isn't yours, it's your turn".
@@MrJuan_Vzla COPE!!!
That’s sad
I completely agree with you.
Honestly the blackpill has been a net positive in my life. No more bs about dating and relationships being personality and confidence. Sure you should be confident, but at your level. If you over do it you're just seen as arrogant. Sad truth but knoweldge can only benefit you.
So the only way to increase your chances are through looksmaxing + working on your health, finances, social and other skills. It's interesting to compare results before and after, through the months and the years if someone implements these things.
I like the simplicity in the black pill.
Black pill freed me from the depressive mental prison of believing that the things I was saying through text and interactions was what determined my failure or success, stressing and wasting my days thinking about what smart thing to say next to the girl on tinder who would have stopped replying anyway. Believing it sends you into the swamp of pick-up advice which usually leads you to do and say things out of character which ultimately makes you come across as strange. Of course what you say matters to an extent, for me now 'game' is just not being weird and moving things forward and I've seen massive improvements. Thanks Wheatwaffles.
Yup Game is just being experienced with knowledge in life where it can be acknowledged and used properly through Social skills……..”Going with the flow” always gets me more girls than “forcing” it with perceived “Game” which is actually a attempt to deceive or manipulate someone, let it always happen naturally because it’s always better that way
yeah, this channel gives real advice for real people
“For much wisdom comes much sorrow; the more knowledge, the more grief.” - Ecclesiastes 1 : 18
I have 1 chad friend,well not directly my friend, he's my youngest cousin friend, he gets hit on by female all the time, and his younger than me, I'm in my 30's and ripped af, he's only 17-18 and skinny but he has a good looking face. I'm supposed to be more successful than him in the dating game, I'm more experienced, more mature, I have more money and my own place, yet he LIVES WITH PARENTS,don't have a dime, nor game and still he's killing it with women, gets all the stares from women in public, I'm just like dude stop, that's enough for you lol, but the problem here is women, they're chosing him again and again, I can put in more effort yet women still go for him. If this didn't proofed me blackpill is real then I don't know what would. A year ago I was one of those blackpill haters who just called them incels for being losers, but it took 1 guy to open my eyes on how much looks matter, now I see it all the time in public, now that I think back I did had blackpill experiences most of my life since I'm not good looking. It's crazy how soceity brainwashed me into thinking so naive. Social media is FULL of lookism, many people taking selfies for compliments, many people are super concerned about their appearance in modern day yet I still thought looks didn't mattered? I mean, how was I lost for so long! LOL. Why was I in denial. I'm just blown away. I'm not a big fan of being inside a "pill" community, it just sounds goofy, but I have herd black/red/white pill but blackpill just sounded new, I knew something was wrong, I knew something was missing, I've continuously told myself what does this guy have that I don't, yet I didn't know what it was but it was there all along, why I didn't I saw it before is beyond me. It's just painfuly obvious now.
I keep realizing that women do not appreciate hard work and effort, only results. They’ll take a good result from luck over a slightly worse option that was fought for and earned.
Men, I find, appreciate effort, even if it results in failure.
That’s why men love sports since they love and appreciate the efforts and work that goes into achieving. Most women do not like sports. They are interested in expensive shoes, handbags and ladies night out to hunt for chad. Very simple.
This is one of the most straightforward and realistic breakdown of what your expectations should be when it comes to dating and self improvement, in relation to dating. I really like how you also made it clear that a lot of redpill content creators regurgitate recycled information withouting adding any value to it by further explaining how one can act on this information and actually make it work for them in real life.
I love your videos. I love that they arent clickbait, and they arent full of emotional yelling/screaming/mocking others to make a point, just straight logical.
Yeah I'm loving these videos.
The RP isn't just self improvement snake oil it's also a very cynical view of male female relationships where dishonesty and manipulation are legitimate and warranted. The nice thing about the BP is that it clarifies the biologically deterministic factors which actually decide your romantic success so in a horseshoe theory kind of way you can just be nice and be yourself again because behavior doesn't matter. Believe me it doesn't.
Basically if you're a sub 5 looking guy, your chances of getting an attractive GF are very slim to none. You can put in a little effort & get a sub 5 GF but she's only gonna be with you for 2 reasons. #1 because Chad don't want her #2 because you have some resources to offer. The relationship will be transactional. Unless you're Chad hot, where a girl is super attracted to you. The relationship is transactional, it even ends up transactional for Chad if he ends up committing to her.
Tbh blackpillers are wrong in something which is that relationship with CHAD isn't transactional.
Once CHAD looses his looks he faces the life same as an average normie.
Good looking people when they start loosing their looks they suddenly become very wise and try to be "Holier than though" presenting themselves as someone with a massive transformation whereas they simply lost their "Pretty Privilege".
Examples: Connor Murphy, Paulina Porizkova.
then why is it that I am a 5 at best but i've had 2 long term GF's that were 7's?
Looks are definitely the most important factor, i'm certainly not delusional, but a good personality can also be extremely attractive to a woman!
@@AmbientWanderer It's not even really like you have to have a good personality. You just have to not approach women like they are an NPC from a video game who has programmed behaviors. Plus 7 is a good goal I think. Anything above that is just more trouble than it's worth. I say women aren't robotic and predictable, but all the pretty and popular people actually are the same.
‘Just be confident bro’ my homie is fat, balding and just honestly ugly. But he doesn’t give a damn and will ask a girl’s number. He just gets mocked and laughed at.
i left the dating world and decided to pursue my dream in powerlifting and beat the records in my country . I advice everyone to have a dream and put 100% of work in that and you will see that you won t have any time or energy to do something else . Girls won t make you happy , but seeing yourself achieving your dream makes you happy.
Hell yeah brother,whats your maxes?
@@sohamsingh9379 bench 120kg , squat 150kg, deadlift 200kg pretty weak but i only started going to the gym 2 months ago , i hope in a year or so i will double my current numbers
Yea but you wobt have 🐈
@@mikeprice8307 i am just a child yet , i don t need to get in that type of things , i leave this type of things for the future when i will want it
@@trauma7777 you're just a child but understand my language? Wow you're way ahead of your time! You even understood my misspell and I'm just a teen, wow impressive 👏
a story for you: I do mma and a girl has recently arrived, I would say an 8/9 beautiful face and great body .. when she realized that there has been a chad to train with us for years (vote 8 abundant) she started to always train with him extra workout, to take a shower in the gym (before she washed at home and was the first to go away), and she always waits for him..yes..I think you're right after all
Take the Blackpill
Agreed wheat. Same. I had 0 success too. The black pill teaches where you stand, how far you can elevate. Teaches you to be realistic and not waste your time chasing girls that you don't stand a chance in getting. Makes your dating approach more efficient which equals more success
2:46 NOTE: If you take time to respond by pretending to be busy, she will also test whether you're actually busy and she WILL know just so she confirms that you are actually the person she wants you to be.
And for your own good, you should be busy.
Red pill for dating is like MLM, Amway. You will always be told you must work harder.
My advice, Don't respond to a "text"......I tell women if you want me, call me voice to voice. And leave it up to them.....if they are interested, they will call you voice to voice.
Our man is shredded fuaaaaark...more like proteinWaffles
I feel bad for ugly guys who recently discovered the redpill, they will get brutally ignored and rejected by women...
Why don't they try homely women?
i mostly agree, i just recently (after downloading multiple dating apps) realized how important looks are, now that i found that out, i have started exercising and getting into shape. Even if online dating doesnt go my way, i still want a good and fit body for summertime next year
I would say I'm 50% blackpill and 50% refilled, I believe that having blackpill awareness is good, and redpill improvement based on your awareness is the way to go, I'm highschool at 14 and I'm a normies like most people, not the sub fives who have really bad acne and stuff like that, so if your a normie, that's what you should have
I am 100% blackpilled.And i have no doubt this mindset is logical
@@Returntonature145 but if you're completely blackpilled, then that means you agree that no matter what improvement you make, it amounts to nothing, that's why I'm half and half, genetics play a big factor, but self improvement is just as important
@@malindrome9055 Being blackpilled means knowing my limits,having more realistic goals
You changed my Life postivily thx bro
I wished I’ve seen a video like this 10 years ago cause this explains all the problems I had in dating.
WheatWaffles is hero.
I am 45 at present, and of course I am not as hot as I used to be... looking back I can see all the girls that really liked me. Love letter, looks, awkwardness of the girls parts... I was clueless.
Even now, there are many things I could do, and have started doing since listening to Mr waffles... looks matter so so very much...
The girls will say it outright, if they think you're attractive then you can say whatever you like, and they will like it.
I was once blue pilled, I thought girls were more into character, more into stability than boys, and knew how into looks guys are...
Brush your teeth, wear nice clothes, get a skill and show it off, disregard the showie girls for that's all they care for... care for yourself, at all times as in boxing, and live your life for you and not others.
Never lead with your wallet, never chase, just be you, and understand yourself.
View women as human beings, full of all the terribly terrific horror of living a life. Live your life, for you.
Do maxilifacial exercises to change your cranial bone structure, it works. Frown, and a frown will form on the skin of your face. Smile, and the world will smile with you.
Lastly, enjoy yourself, and the world will enjoy you... but, at least, you will enjoy yourself.
I attempted Game before I knew I was a 3 physically, and on the spectrum to boot. It didn't go as planned --- I just came across as being a jerk. And frankly, redpill tactics are just the polar opposite of my personality; if I were to attempt Game, it'll clearly look forced. I also attempted redpill tactics in my daily life, and friends & family started wondering what was wrong with me and why was I being so obnoxious. When you're an ugly man, you don't want to be seen or heard, and if your existence is acknowledged, you're expected to be nice and docile (why do you think men described as 'creepy' are always 3 and below in looks, whereas I knew a Chad-tier guy that sent a girl weird porn and she thought it was hilarious) --- that's one of the brutal blackpill realities. Game convinces a girl to like you, which rarely ends well if you're average looking ---- the relationship is destined to fail (i.e. paternity fraud, divorce rape, monkey branching etc.); in contrast, guys 8 and up can have their lives in disorder and girls will still remain loyal. Personal experience: a good-looking Tyrone co-worker once advised me to "just be myself", he meant well, but he fails to understand that in dating, he rarely ever needed to do any work - in his case, one female coworker asked him out, and another one stalked him. I just focus on my copes and hobbies.
If "just be yourself" was true then there wouldn't be any need for self improvement.
Fk that, it just makes me want to domestic violence the shit out of them, when i'll get them, i will abuse the shit out of them, a lesson to them for ruinning my 20's.
Yeah unfortunately that's how it works. "Game" works wonders if you're a 9/10 in the looks department, but if you're an average guy and try "game" you just come across as creepy and/or a jerk.
As from personal experience, yes. I am quite an attractive man(8-8.2/10) and when I was bluepilled or even redpilled, I thought that my chivalrous behaviour would be viewed as positive by girls and that it's the right thing to do. Now, after I'd received a couple of harsh lessons from life, I abuse my looks to the max and it works like a charm
good looking men wouldnt be watching this lol
@@SonyCamry you can be good-looking and insecure depending on your backstory
"when I was bluepilled or even redpilled, I thought that my chivalrous behaviour" if you were red-pilled, you wouldn't be chivalrious at all, mate
@@nikita424 yes i agree chad can either decide to exploit maxx or monk maxx after discovering the main source of his success
@@nikita424 I'm sure I'm in 8 category face wise although I'm below 6ft. I did well with dating or work situations, but as things should be balanced, you either get more enemies or few enemies but stronger. In terms of dating some girls would literally reject me because she's afraid I'll cheat on her. I failed job interviews not because of my skills, but because they wanted to put me into a position I don't want. Applied as a warehouse coordinator, gets offered marketing and PR positions, refused, not getting called next day.
Not sure what you meant with "harsh lessons in life" though, but in my experience your looks could detriment some goals you got in mind. On a positive side, it only means that thing/place/relationship isn't for me so I won't waste my time.
Ecclesiastes 1:18
For with much wisdom comes much sorrow; the more knowledge, the more grief. The greater my wisdom, the greater my grief. To increase knowledge only increases sorrow. For in much wisdom is much vexation, and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow.
Blackpill is the truth but the question here is 'Are you strong to accept this bitter truth?' Most men (95'/,) will never accept it and try to cope).
i remember reading an article that pre agriculture 1 man reproduced every 17 women.... so basically throughout history minority of males passed on the blood lines...
@@joeswanson733 also by force though. If you had the strenght to defeat other men, it didn't matter that much how good looking you were. If you had status and vigor, the woman had to submit. It isn't quite like that today, but those times might come back.
@@Michael_the_Drunkard well if you read enough from TH-cam comment and forums those types of conditions are every womans worse nightmare in their own word. I have no opinion as whatever happens happens it's behind our control
I'm 5'8, have a receding chin, a big nose, acne scars, and I'm balding. There is really no hope for me. As an ugly man I can tell you, it sucks, but you can learn to live with it. My best advice is let your right hand be your best friend, if you know what I mean. It helps tremendously with the pain of being lonely.
Record yourself at a distance doing that and watch it a week later. Your only making a fool of yourself 🤣
My opinion: First impression is very important, but genes (looks, height, etc.) and being fit matters a lot. It allows a fast check opportunity to have an interaction and being considered by a woman (sexual desire). Courage, openness and extraversion improve the interaction (a worthy experience and security). Conscientiousness (goal-directed, persistent, and organized) and intelligence represents potential growth and achievements. (performance and resources). You can have traits mentioned and still do not meet woman criteria list, not even a chance if genes and being fit are not met (however as woman ages, it becomes less important on her selection criteria)
Now I realized that the past time I went on a discotheque I started to blackpilling myself and you helped me reach that level even faster so thank you man.
I'm impressed by your focus and analysis overdrive.
You could teach this as a degree subject.
Most of these things happened to me at a certain age, the only difference, I was not a virgin, but yeah, if you don't maintain all your things (Looks, status, money, etc.), most modern women will leave you after a short while. In my case I was earning more money, but was stressed from my job, I was also starting to loose hair. That was around 10 years ago. In those last 10 years, there were around 3 years where I was kind of lost and did not know what to do, but after that I was much better off, from where I started. I think I had my fair share of girlfriends and occasional hook ups in that time, so I can't complain. Currently I am kind of in monk mode. I know some girls that I could visit or even some that I could you know... but that does not help me out on the long run. I don't know how long I can control myself. I guess I will have to get the tension out one day with someone....
So, working hard to maximize my looks, after years, I finally achieved becoming a ... 3 ...so, then I waited to attract a level 2 female, and once I did, finally left my old lady who was a 0 ... the moral of my story is "desperate times call for desperate measures" (hope my 2 chick never sees this)
Terrific vid. Red + black pill - we need to give it a name (like maroon pill) because these two go hand-in-hand to help us 'normies' (as WW says) understand both where we stand with women, and how to deal with them successfully. Women are just as shallow as men when it comes to looks, and at the same time, they want to date up, so all the other things that aren't so important to men (like her income, career, etc) matter to them. So either date below your SMV, or make the decision that the fruit you can manage to pluck ain't worth the squeeze.
Either way, never be fooled into thinking women fall in love with their hearts and love you for who you are, and the sacrifices and attention you give them...that will set you up for heartache, brothers.
Literally my favorite TH-camr of all time
Don't worry about validation woman.
You have to care with you.
Your life can not be decided for the girls
You can change your body, your financial life, girls will never be satisfied
This is my exactly my experience with women as a 28 yr old divorced US Army Veteran.
I have since self improved since my divorce. I got fit, increased my finances over time, tried game and still no success. I learned about the Blackpill and all the content just makes sense. Especially through my experiences in life.
Wheat Waffles is a prophet
I've been single for almost 11 years. My life devolved into a miserable mess of loneliness, self-hatred, and alcoholism. Last year I got sober. I lost 60 pounds. I started eating right and I work out every day, even if it's just pushups. I upped my financial situation, too. I paid off all my debt, I found a higher paying job, and I'm on track to make over $100,000 this year. I have changed and improved every metric of my life. The constant? I am still invisible to women. I'm bald, so that's the biggest factor completely out of my control.
How did you find a higher paying job and what job did you do before? Like what steps have you taking and how did you find the high paying job?
When I was younger I was blue pilled. Then I was redpilled for about a year and now I'm black pilled.
Brutal, here in Brazil now that blackpill channels are appearing
For some of the guys with significant facial issues, a receding chin, post acne skin, large nose, etc. those imperfections can be changed through plastic surgery, but, obviously, men need to have money for this approach. "Foreign" plastic surgery options cost 1/4 the price of UK or USA surgeons. I'm surprised that the vlogger did not list plastic surgery as an option. Plastic surgery is the means for moving dramatically from a low number to a 5 or 6. This topic is worthy of it's own vlog.
Regarding "looks:" (black pill), for bad breath I find that "Tic-toks" or Altoids that dissolve in your mouth rather than gum, that has to be either spit out or swallowed, is, practically, a much better breath mint. Regarding after-shave---I strongly recommend a high quality cologne rather than after-shave, because the scent lasts much longer. Men, go to a department store and ask some of the women behind the counter their recommendations after you try various brands. Women can smell how the cologne interacts with your own skin and also give you advice about what they tend to like and not like. You also have a say! Some smells won't work for you. 2. for advice on your "looks" I STRONGLY recommend Alex Costa's channel---he is based out of Los Angeles and focuses heavily on "Looks" in terms of hair, face grooming and clothing.
As an incel turned father, you're doing it wrong. The facts are; game is a myth, you need to fix your mental health, stop taking relationships analytically unless you want one with another man, feel rather than think. Pay attention to when people feel uncomfortable around you. Make "Find a girl who I like to be around and likes to be around me" a higher priority than "having sex". The rest comes with time.
Every point when you bring up bettering yourself, your biggest counter is "I felt lost and confused". That literally means you don't know how to better yourself. Start with mental health. I promise, poor mental health is a lot more unattractive than than a gut or soft face.
Finally a W comment
COPE. Larp as an Incel.
Incels aren't Incels cuz of lack of game or personality, but rather "LOOKS".
Advice for Chads will never work out for a 3/10.
You weren't an Incel, but you thought you were.
@@ritishakapoor1513 An incel is an incel until they get romantically inclined
And what he said makes 100% sense, taking relationships analytically is cringe, and when this channel talks about bettering yourself to be a "chad" it should start with mental health, the "blackpill" is a SUPER unattractive mindset, its not even a meme, people are acting like its a grounded science
yes always exercise and you'll find someone, just don't dismiss them by the things they can't change and they will do the same for you
or just declare your life over and act like the blackpill is freeing, whatever
Needs to be pinned , this is gold
"Don't try to understand women, women understand women, and they hate each other."
Understand yourself.
Men wish women hated each other, because if women were divided then it would be easier to pit one woman against another. This is wishful thinking.
@@briskettacos yeah, i doubt that.
I have two sisters, whom I love, and who love each other. They bicker all the time and even had a falling out that lasted a decade.
I somewhat recently called out the sister who I suspected of holding the grudge, and to her credit the two of them cleared it up.
I have hundreds of female friends, I love them. I want them to be happy. Honestly I do think that certain women should not be listened to, that they give bad advice to 'the sisterhood' and seek to lead younger women down a very unhappy path.
Don't project on us men something that you yourself feel. The quote was a quote, the second sentence was only two words and important for anyone, not the least of which is yourself. Understand yourself.
Looks are the key to get through the door with online dating and cold approach. If you don’t have those, you won’t get in. Personality and social skills are what sustains a relationship. They also can be more important than looks in social circle situations which let’s face it, is the best way to get into a relationship with a woman. If you aren’t a top tier dude like seriously within the top 5% of guys, do not bother with online dating.
I like what WW said during the first streamed debate with Hamza.
"One can self-improve, but only if there is a good enough genetic material to beging with, otherwise what the progress gonna achieve".
I believe in this red+black pill .
There's one standard that women have that I don't care how hard you work on yourself, stay on your grind, focus on your goals or stay on your purpose that you can't fix is your height. I never realized how important it is to women that a man needs to be 6'+ and they shame men that are below that and tried to hit on them when it's completely out of our control (genetic lottery losers).
This. I am everything maxxed at 30 but I am five foot four.
I am expecting to lose my virginity at around 40 to 50 when clearly women no longer value how you look like.
Except I will be banging hookers by 35 and will never allow a thot in my inner sanctuary.
Wheat, I went through the exact same experience. Once I was Black Pilled, I focused on myself and paid little attention to women out of my league and the women within my league started to approach me. Then boom, got laid.
So in my opinion, the Black Pill is life saving
Black pill:
- Know where you're at (realistic approach)
- See yourself climbing the scale
- Small improvement are big
- Freedom to focus on other areas
Red pill:
- Just do the work! Make money. Hit the gym, learn game, and women will follow. Be confident!
RP surely might work for some guys, but it won't work for the majority of them. BP on the other hand, works for almost every individual.
What I never really got about RP is,how most redpillers think that all of us are bussines owners.
This video blew me away…Wow. Finally someone put the argument to rest. Well done and 100% True.
How only 75k people are subscribed??? The content of the channel is extraordinary
I think people who try really hard to get a girl always fail in one way or another. Either they lose interest in girls cuz they don’t care about their personality or can’t get no one cuz they focus on picking up girls and not keeping them. Be patient, kind, good listener and confident. Don’t chase just wait for the opportunity.
How did you got your girlfriend ?
@@Based556 i was on a vacation with 3 of my friends, it’s sort of a tradition that we go to a lake every year in august and stay in a summer lodge for a few days. We usually buy some drinks and play poker or some sort of games, then go to the beach play some futball or volleyball and go for a swim. One night we went to to beach and we were pretty drunk. So we’ve been just talking and shit when two girls approached us. They asked if we had a lighter? Well we didn’t but i offered some of my vodka to the cute blonde. Then we went to gather some wood to make a campfire and we had a chat. Then she invited all of us to her summer apartment so we could have some snacks and more drinks. We went out to the balcony cuz she wanted to smoke. I never smoke but i wanted to be with her. We talked a lot and eventually we had our first kiss. Then we went stargazing and kissed a bunch. The next day i texted her, that i’d like to know her better and we can meet on the beach. She agreed and we’ve had a great time playing volleyball. Then we went on a couple of dates and got together, still going strong.
2 months into a break up and I’m more relaxed than ever and having more fun than I did in that relationship. We all try so hard to get with a girl only for them to make us miserable.
Game is for attractive men. If a girl likes you or you're her type, your game will work!!!
One of the greatest things about the black pill is the realization that the whole dating game really has nothing to do with you as a person.
Attraction is purely based on objective factors that you may or may not be able to improve.
If all girls essentially just want chad then I can't take it personally if she rejects or accepts me based on that fact alone.
What only remains is to take a sincere and honest look at yourself, about where you stand right now, SMV-Wise and determine wether it is worth it to work on yourself or just give up.
The "harsh" reality is in fact, that not everyone is supposed to make it.
So there isn't even any shame in admitting to yourself that "it's over".
Anyways, it's time to looksmaxx for me and go from a 6 to a 9. Let's go.
very underrated channel, this is a peak quality video