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3 Redpill teachings Debunked by a *Blackpiller* - Terrible Dating Advice
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Approach-maxxing also known as playing the "numbers game" is commonly brought forward by redpill dating coaches - "Just do 500 approaches", "don't be scared", "the worst that can happen is she'll say no". In this video I'll be giving my blackpill perspective on why "numbers game" doesn't work - unless you're attractive ofcourse.
▬ Contents of this video ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
00:00 - Intro
00:36 - Warm approach
04:14 - Online dating Tinder Algorithm
08:46 - Cold approach
14:36 - Conclusion
The gossip shit is way too accurate. Like, EXTREMELY accurate. I had no idea how hive minded women were. It’s a joke to me.
I remember that once in high school I told to my crush that I felt something for her. The next day, almost every single person in our year knew about it.
@@alejandrop.s.3942 One day, there was a rumour in high school that I liked one of the tall, cool girls. I traced it back to the day I walked home with a new kid who was telling me about the girl he liked. I had said I thought the girl was pretty too, just so I didn't hurt his feelings about his taste in girls. I don't think I talked to that guy anymore after that LOL.
@@crotchy7667 great, gossipers seperated you from a potential friend /s
About a month ago. I asked the hot girl at camp out. She said yes. Within a few hours everyone our age there knew (25ish ppl) and within 6 even my dad knew. Gossip is unreal.
The crazy thing is that it's not only in the dating market but even in family. You cant rely on your own sister for keeping a secret unless she tells all your other sisters and your mom. While dad would always keep a secret.
I remember a guy who's a 2-3/10 said he approached 2000 women. Ultimately he got rejected by all of em.
Holy shit that’s brutal
Dang. If a woman approached 1999 other men and got dumped, would you accept her if she approached you?
@@Gaeisok How would I know she's approached 1999 other men?
@@ashharkausar413 you see her at the club asking literally everyone. and then after you see her approach 20 guys she comes to you.
@@Gaeisok It's not normal for a woman to be going around the club asking guys out. But it's normal the other way around.
The way to easily avoid this issue is NEVER "ask" any women out. Only ever suggest them to join you for something you are already gonna be doing anyway.
A subtle difference that makes all the difference. NO ONE ever "asked out"
People just joining you in what you are doing.
"Feel free to join me"
The 5 most useful words in dating and in life.
this is what people (men mainly) do not get about approaching women... they ASK... do you think badboys ask?
I think poisoning the well also involves female hierarchy. If one woman says no she is implying she can afford to be picky and is proving herself to be very desirable. And if the second or third woman says yes than she is implying she is not as attractive as the first woman and is taking cast offs. To maintain hierarchy position she has to say no or else lose face.
Under the assumption that these people are following this theory. There are a few people that will do whatever they want and don't care what other people think.
@@TheTenCentStory we call those people... neuro-divergent
@@TheTenCentStory unicorns don't exist
That's actually very insightful.
@@TheTenCentStory yes, and we call those people 'men'.
I didn't even know about the shadow banning that's soul crushingly BRUTAL. Just image uploading new photos thinking this is it I'm finally gonna get matches but you've been shadow banned for months.
@A DESOLATE SOUL It’s real life. 80% of men get nothing on Tinder. Well, they shouldn’t have used the app in the first place anyway. 🖐😂
that's when it can be useful to delete your tineder profile and create a new one. it's supposed to reset the whole thing
Numbers: There was a farm boy in my high school class named Fred. Fred was nice, but he didn't have a handsome face, dressed like his grandmother made his clothes, and lacked any social skills. He literally asked out maybe 100 of his female classmates and they *all* turned him down. After a few, word spread and they knew it was coming. I felt sorry for Fred.
atleast he had the confidence to ask them out, I've been dealing my whole life with shyness/anxiety, so approaching/asking woman out etc, is not my to go place ... tbh getting rejected is not the issue, I just don't know how to "genuine" show my interest, approach women :s ... nowadays you can get the cops on ur ass if you even look at a woman in public, if ur not "quite handsome" in their eyes.
nevER began for Fredcels
Let women bully you. The real problem comes from within. You care what they think. Just use them and manipulate them. They really don't deserve the fairytale they want, so why would you give it to them? Chad is right. That's the realest real black pill.
I knew a turkish guy in my college also named Free was notorious for approaching all the girls, never really began for him, sadly
@@bartdegryse9345 I want you to sit down and take a long hard self reflection. You do know that to get girls you have to at least talk right? You just said you're not afraid of rejection so why can't you talk to them? Just see them as normal people and say hi. Talk to them like you'd talk to a random guy. Or do you feel shy talking in general? If so then that's something else but if it's just girls then eliminate that mentality
In warm environment, you can ask one girl per year out, at best! In fact, at your workplace, you should ask out zero.
There's a saying in Spanish: donde tengas la olla, no metas la p*lla, which means that you shouldn't mix job and pleasure.
The trick is to get them to ask you out, then it doesn't matter if you are at work or not.
@@ipspots1 good luck.
@@ZelenoJabko Never had any problems attracting women in public.
@@ZelenoJabko Never had any issues attracting women in public, and no, I am no CHAD. I just have years of experience. That comes from not afraid to be rejected, you delevop some self confidence. And remember the #1 rule, people dont want to know about you, they want to talk about themselves.
Good job boy you keept it short clean and with facts everyone can agree on. Keep on the good work
Blue and redpillers won't.
@ICEcold VON You're halfway then, keep it up.
I have a theory about dating apps, may be wrong, but just a theory. So I used to be on dating apps last year and I would describe myself as average looking. I was constantly shown women who I thought looked ugly and got likes off ugly girls all the time. Anyway after I came off the sites I decided to do an experiment, so I took a really tall nice looking male instagram model and created a profile out of him to see what results I'd get. What I first noticed was that the apps seemed to be recommending girls who were super hot, whereas with my real profile they were recommending girls who we're average at best. This made me believe that the apps are kind of judging you and placing you in a category. Also, as you can imagine, the fake profile was lighting up with constant likes and matches, wheras my real profile got about 18 likes in a whole month, which I didn't like the girls anyway.
A trained machine learning algorythm could certainly learn to classify pictures in order of likeliness that the women will swipe left or right, which would be a good proxy for attractiveness. These dating apps would want to maximize the number of women on their platform, because women are picky they are not going to have a good experience if they need to reject hundreds of people before finding an interesting match, so it makes a lot of sense to do that.
It's not worth the effort these days. You need to get a phd in dating to even get a foid to say hi to you if you're not Chad
Lol
Someday it will be over for even Chad cels?! Haha
You could utilize this chance to be the educator for dating PHDs ;)
@@adamgorz9679 if Tinder keeps ruining the dopamine system of women further... I am afraid that only gigachads like Bratt Pitt will have a Chance in the Future. The rest will need to move abroad where there is little internet dating yet. But in such countries most men in America could get laid.
@@howmathematicianscreatemat9226 Even if you are attractive you need game to keep the beast happy. Women have 1 million options now. I guess you can just smash random women tho.
Same thing happened to me my crush rejected me I moved on then asked out her friend who told the other girl I liked her and then the other girl. The girl told all her other female friends. The girl told 2 of her exes who were my friends and she was telling them "He doesn't have a chance with me." First called me a weirdo and creep and so did the second girl. Yup the well got poisoned.
What a B****
Sorry to hear that, it hurts
It's just bullying. Just ignore them bro. They don't have to brag that they are better than you. They are too cowardly to show vulnerability and ask for a relationship anyway. They just want to dominate you. Let them reject you. When they brag call them out on it. When they gossip call them out on it. Be authoritative about it too. I did this to employers who were mistreating me. They are the ones who are broken and live in a world of comparison. They reject you first because they fear rejection. Just understand that when they reject you and you are of similar age, class and attractiveness truthfully they are declaring themselves prostitutes whether they are conscious of that fact or not. Do you really care what another prostitute thinks about you? If a woman wants a serious relationship with you she will ask. Otherwise DO NOT get attached to them in the first place. It's just business. The same psychology applies to employers. You see they want to say they are better than you and you need them more than they need you but they also want you to stay in the relationship with them to validate their egos. Walking away and beginning a relationship with someone else is what breaks them. It shows them that they are in fact not walking Gods worthy of worship but just humans who need help themselves. They are too weak to show vulnerability from their own emotional trauma from third party bullies. All women are bullies. Some men are bullies. Don't get attached to them. They are the problem.
Hope their lives end up tragically
The well was already a biohazard wastedump, it just revealed itself.
Your response to the "numbers game" on Tinder and cold approaches reminded me of the photoelectric effect and how no matter how many photons you send at a metal, they'll never excite any electrons if they don't have enough energy. Sociology mirrors science I guess.
So true
Very nice analogy!
Exactly they don't pass the threshold
this is a quality analogy
Wow. I didn't get the poisoning of the well back in high school, so I literally asked everyone out I found cute. Yeah. Not much success and word got around, not to me though, not until a guy friend of the gossip girls told me that i'm a slimy desperate guy that no one wants.
So you're absolutely on point. I'd watched too many redpill cold approach vids, and somehow thought it'd be easier in a school environment.
Funnily enough, before the poisoning,
i got my first long time girlfriend from there. And prior to her i hadnt asked anyone out from the school
I really try to believe in God, that there is a higher plan.
I get crushed when I hear this stuff, I don't usually "ask women out" on the fly, but I polarize by complimenting and flirting.
The only way I can think to counteract the well poisoning, is to build status. Be a genuine man, that keeps his word, and his mouth shut about people, while offering something to the table. Like playing a sport, the guy who lifts, the gut who gives good advice, the stoic who only talks when he needs too, the wit who makes quick quips when appropriate.
This, while being a genuinely open and friendly person who listens to people, and drops their usually needy self-centeredness in conversations; I believe can truly attract friends, and be well mannered to those around you.
I've gotta say, this guy is truly in the pits. He refuses to lift, doesn't show his face in interviews, and generally seems to be a casualty of web-psychosis.
I dearly pray for you Wheat, and all of those who walk away from your content with slumped shoulders.
Because I believe if we all got our acts together, this mess of a dating world would be suitable again
@@visserin im in the same boat as u brother. trying to keep my hopes up(atleast a little) in this so called dating. even if im a fan of wheat, i always try to take a grain of salt but damn, the accuracy of every video of wheat just cant be denied. ill just try to wait this out till im 30-35+ and try to find a date, maybe the dating curve might change and im holding on to that.
@Burger Kang True, not something I considered
I get that you didn't think about it back in highschool, but as a grown man there's no reason not to, because there _are_ ways that you can ask women out, even several of them, at the office (or whatever environment you happen to work in) _whitout_ poisoning the well.
Let's say you ask Allison out and she shuts you down, if you do nothing and just walks away, yeah, that's quickly going to ruin your reputation, but a little damage control can go a long way. Instead, say something along the lines of, _"Fair enough",_ give a short pause like you just thought of this and continue, _"... you don't happen to know anyone I could ask out that might say yes? See, I've been single for a while now and... it would just be nice to meet someone, you know? Make the weekends a little less lonely."_ So, initially this might sound like a terrible idea. Instead of her finding out that you're desperate after asking out woman #2, you basically just volunteered that information straight up! *But* you have also chosen to put your trust in her by opening up to her and showing her a vulnerable side. Instead of you being a potential creep that just wants to score, you're instead someone she can relate to. Best case scenario, she could potentially point you in the right direction to the next woman you can ask out. If not, ask her straight up, _"Do you think I dare to ask out ? I don't want to get a bad reputation around the office."_
Of course, this all hinges on you not already having the reputation of being the resident office creep and also that you and Allison are, at least, on friendly terms to start with. The idea is that you make her see herself as your _ally_ rather than your adversary. If the second woman also rejects your request for a date, no biggie, bring her onboard as well and you're now a team leader for the group working on the project of finding you a date!
You still need to _not_ look like a complete trainwreck in the general face area if you're to have any luck of course, but at least you get a few extra attempts before it's game over this way.
At least you weren’t the femenine friend guy of them
Never thought about the whole poisoning the well theory, this makes me even more content on the fact I didn't bother asking most of the girls I liked in high school. Good analogy there
Thank you for making these videos, people like us would go insane thinking we are at fault for not having the will to approach women like the dating coaches tell us. Our fear and reluctance to approach women doesn't stem from laziness! In our deepest subconscious minds this complex of not being attractive enough is what really pulls us back. Your analysis makes this burden a tad lighter!
Any man who doesn't learn after 10 rejections that his looks are not the way to attract just can't affect his position in life & learn from it
Nowadays it's better to just have a life and some true friends and just live it by travelling alone or with your friends, have hobbies,, play instruments, meditate or whatever just don't get in this shaming game unless some woman get's the courage and shows signs that she might like you. Otherwise let's not validate them anymore, Gents.
Most everything is based on Lies
My ex-roomate was a 5'2 220 pound 35 year-old female who was going on at least three Tinder dates a week (totally fatsfishing). STILL, she was overly-picky and refused to date a man under 5'11 and expected him to take her to expensive dates. I saw many of her dates who I thought were good-looking decent guys but she rejected them. Women on these sites should be avoided at all costs; even if they're fat and ugly, they are delusional about their SMV.
Thank you for the brutal honesty, wish more women kept it real like this
@@ladistar A Woman? That looks like that on this channel? Oh please... Welcome to the internet boyo! Where the men are men, the women are men and Children are the FBI! No girl is on these small blackpill channels.. We are invisible to them in real life and online, and I'm a testament to how bad things have gotten!! I had girlfriends all my adult life from 18-28, not bragging of course, I'm 37 now and couldn't get laid to save my life since 2012 anyway.. And I'm 5'11, jacked, Ok looking I think..
Please dude dont use fake female pictures.
@@karlhans6678 so her entire channel is fake?
@@Skelstoolbox What happened ? Did you have a stroke or become a burn victim ?🤔
Indeed, not only does 'not having the looks' mean you're getting less first dates, it also means you don't get to practice and build up experience and confidence.
Thus even if the sweetest possible girl you'd might ever get, gives you a real chance ... you're probably still gonna blow it.
And the hardest part is that that very same girl would have been your loyal and loving life companion ... if only you had had the experiences a Chad already has accumulated at the start of high school!
When I just started out online dating I would write very long opening letters, fully personalized to the girl and in rhyme.
I stumbled upon a girl who loved that.
She genuinely gave me a chance.
Blue pilled as I was, I considered myself a gentleman and offered to pick her up at her house in my car ... nowadays it wouldn't be done with 'metoo' and all that fun stuff ... but it was all before that crap AND she liked the offering and accepted.
However, I had never been on a real date before.
So I did my very best and it went very well for my standards ... I'm an INTJ ... social stuff is not my thing.
Yet ... I made some basic errors like chatting with her for hours at a time online, obsessing over when she's going to reply, answer her to quickly, being to honest and open, have a cinema as our first date, ... .
Combine that with the typical awkwardness of an introvert having to perform in social activities with a very important pair of scrutinizing eyes on him ... and you guessed it ...
By the end of the date I had held her hand and had failed to create any more sexual tension ... thus failing to get a goodnight kiss, which made for a very awkward ending.
On an intellectual level we had a lot of fun; I can talk about almost anything and draw on my vast memory and knowledge to make good "logical" conversation. Until this day I truly feel like she would have been an awesome and fun companion.
Yet ... she kept postponing the second date.
She had a lot of stress at the time with a very mean boss and came out of an abusive relationship for which she had moved to the other end of the country.
We clicked intellectually and if we had been in high school together we would definitely have been best of friends and probably each others first ... and maybe only ... partner.
But ... since in the grown up world it all comes down on looks first ... lacking the excellent face + missing the experience to create the perfect date, ment she decided that she wasn't ready for a relationship at this time.
Yet ... not long thereafter she proclaimed on her FB that she was in a happy relationship.
8 months go by and suddenly she contacted me again to ask how I've been.
I guess she wasn't all that happy after all.
Looking back, she might have been checking if she could come back to me ... however ...
At the time I was very down because I had just gotten fired because: I had asked a female client out after she had "shown" interest and we had end up enjoying a 1.5 hour talk.
She suggested texting her on FB. I found that strange since we could exchange everything in real life ... but didn't think anything of it.
The instant I send her a nice FB, she blocked me and send it to the parent company of my employer.
It was the start of 'MeToo' and the parent company is always in need of good media coverage ... so apparently they had a new zero tolerance policy and were looking to add proof of it being used.
So they terminated my indefinite contract.
Apparently while that client was definitely a bitch, she herself had not foreseen it going this far and tried to retract her statement ... yup ... didn't work.
Well ... they fired their only technician with 98% client satisfaction and 99.7% first time right solved cases who was always willing to help dispatch out by taking on that final extra case of the day. My direct boss wanted to keep me ... but the higher ups just wanted "proof" of their working 'MeToo' policy.
Like WTF ... I did nothing more than ask a girl who showed interest out and DM'd her on FB on her request!
Ah well ... I had an issue with work safety anyways and every few years a colleague would die because of them ... so I now could enjoy welfare while looking for a safer job.
Since my trackrecord was spotless and my boss liked me a lot, I was not "fired" but just had my contract not extended. So no paperwork exists of this "metoo" reason.
I eventually did find a safe job ... so all well ends well. And this full time job pays like the old one but I can do it with even less effort XD
But since it had just happend at that point I told her about this event and never heard from her again.
Stupid mistakes on my part.
And valuable lessons learned for the future.
Nowadays I don't trust any woman until she has thoroughly proven otherwise and professionally I no longer do small talk with them at all.
I also no longer help random women out when I see they have a problem. The risk simply isn't worth it.
I was lied to as a child ... I was made to believe that being a gentleman was something women loved ...
Ah well nowadays I focus on my own hobbies and interests and do the very minimum I can for this sick society.
Relatable and agreed, don't stick your neck out in these dangerous times. The social contract has been wrecked beyond repair.
If a woman pulls a I'm stressed/not ready etc card. It's time to go.
The only stress a woman needs to be worried about when dealing with men is her behavior. Everything else is just an excuse for more Chad.
You were born at the wrong time. All would be different in past times
I know this is an old comment but just wanted to say thanks for sharing. Your honesty will save many young men from wasted time, money, and damaged self worth
I consider myself red pilled, and the red pill teachings you list are what I consider blue pill adjacent. The primary red pill teaching that I have taken in is to just ignore women and focus on things that are worth your time instead, as in your hobbies and your friends. The idea of having women in your life is nice and all, but as you said the reality is that the juice is not worth the squeeze.
very interesting video and i can relate. did about 1.000 cold approaches a while ago and got about two women who were genuinely interested in me, they sent me all the attraction signals you can imagine, but blew both moments because of my nervousness. i suppose the takeaway is, there's always some woman out there who might genuinely like you, but it's so hard to capitalize on the attraction and interest of someone if, due to all your rejections, you never built up the experience to handle the situation to your benefit.
Its over on an exponential scale
*logarithmic
I always tell guys that if they plan to ask a girl out in a warm environment, that if they get rejected, to make sure to tell that girl that rejected him to NOT tell other girls that he asked you out because, as you said, it can poison the well.
good luck with that mate, they will tell every girl in a 50 mile radius.
@@JakeLesser sadly, youre completely right. Girls just cant zip it when it comes to the guys that they like, romance, eroticism, flirttation, etc.
@@hmhm856 I sent a girl at work a text asking her how her day was and she did not reply. Every girl in her team stared daggers at me for a long time.
@@JakeLesser Unbelievable. All you did was ask how her day was.
@@JakeLesser Aussie , mate ?
in shopping malls back in 2014 when pick up was big sub5s and normie tier guys would ask out women over and over. they called the cops on the pick up artists. if ur sub 7 in todays world and you cold approach u have a 50/50 chance of going to jail just for asking a girl out on a date
Cold approach in 2021:
Chad=confident and charming
Sub5= call the Police on that creepy guy
@@maxmuller6730 then they call authorities on men who dont ask them out. its really happened too
i saw a video few weeks ago, policeman called the pua's mother after catching him lol
@@maxmuller6730 probably labelled as sexual harassment. Even warm approaches in work force can lead to reports due to sexual harassment.
@Watermelon Pinapple that’s a little extreme. Unless Cold Approaching is considered illegal at that specific location.
Your warm approach section hit me hard, I got the Tyrone treatment at a past job and had a girl 10 years my junior(I was 29 at the time) give me what AMS calls choosing signals or IOIs in old PUA jargon. She'd break the touch barrier, comment on my hair and physique and be close to me. But due to having no game at all that interest cooled off so when I finally worked up the courage for a nervous, shaky approach rejected. Over the remainder of the year I made two more approaches to females who had given me similar treatment, REJECTED. Not mad at them at all though, it was totally my fault. Tyrone/Chad/Chang/Abduls do have it much much easier but there's still a bit of a learning curve considering that you're competing with other Chads who will be far more experienced than you are.
And when I say experienced I don't mean that early 00s, romcom jestermaxxing nonsense, I mean strong, silent types who are direct and calm and efficient.
Exactly, at my last job it seemed like I was able to get away with almost anything.
I started pushing things further and further until I switched careers and nothing bad ever happened
6's Theory: 6 feet tall, 6 figure income, 6 pack abs, 6 inch sausage, 6 overall face and average game. This is the baseline to catch the eyes of most women out there and kitty will be available to you everywhere.
Things get crazier though when you go above and beyond all these 6's: 6'4" tall, 9 inch sausage, 7 figure salary, 6 pack abs, 8 overall face and above average game. You would be a lower case god in the eyes of women with all of these above 6's.
Any 6's I might have missed in the list? Please advise.
yeah its like chris on goodlookingloser says, just work for being above average in all metrics
9 inch dick is like top 1% in the world lmao
Thw chances of someone being these things (especially younger folks) is like 1% or below.
Thanks as always for the insight. As for the warm approach, I think it's clear that asking every girl around you out is bad for your reputation. At least it was always clear to me so I never did it. I can't fathom how there are guys who don't instinctively know that. It's such a no-brainer.
IMO if your skin is thick enough to take 500 rejections for a single "yes," forget about women... you've got a hugely profitable future in 100% commission sales 💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵
Amazing.....I will say without doubt, the information this guy states is absolutely correct. How do I know this? Because I am 65, I have seen it ALL. Believe me. I am I would say...brown pilled.....
I work with a woman that is late 40's, never married. I'm about a 6 and she treats me like crap, despite my "civilized, kind demeanor".....she would always light up when her married Chad boss and her talked. She would change completely.
another great vid
super clear and intelligent -- blackpill community needs such content creators
In the States, asking out girls in the workplace is colloquially referred to as... "Don't shit where you eat..."
Red pillers : I told you, even chad has 1/3 success rate in dating !
Most girls are not availiable dude, its less than that. Girls are often very invested in theyr relationships to waste on cold approaching guy.
It Less than that bro
I have a super Chad homie who we grow together 1/100 hot guys 1/3000 average or below average
@Jesse Pinkman Well, but her standards for that guy changes based on who is she dating now.
Besides the fact that romancing your coworkers is a bad idea, hopefully one would notice signs of interest from Caitlyn and ask her out first. That's why you should test people first if they respond well to you and then ask them out, not out of the blue. But yeah, it kind of goes against the advice you're debunking here.
Gdzie się uczy i pracuje, tam się chujem nie wojuje! :D
@@smnsn332 hahahahghaghag
She may be a 2/10 you can't say
I’m 52 and have worked in many industries as an IT professional. The more women in the workplace the worse the gossip and the danger of getting m2’ed. I’ve tried keeping to myself and being social. Doesn’t matter…if anyone of the ladies doesn’t get the validation they need from you…their gossip will end you. Especially if they are young and single. It got to the point that I’ll never work under a fee fail or meet anywhere alone again.
I can tell that you're incredibly smart -- your analysis are so coherent and your voice sounds high T
The poison effect at its worst XD
It’s funny how they make dating so difficult if it is an MIT Calculus IV lecture while in reality it’s all down to how you look mostly or/and what goods do you have, but let’s keep on the looks department
If a girl likes you and finds you attractive she will give hints and will be already glad if you stick closer to her without pulling that “humorous” stuff or pulling the “game”
Wtf is the game anyways. Makes me wonder how those guys are still lying themselves that it’s because game and not something else. Also keep in mind that drunk women seem to be more lenient when it comes to looks and hooking up than sober
love the clicking sound every time he goes to the next slide, gives me some sort of satisfaction
don't ever ask the girl from the same working environment to date, even she likes you too, because if your relationship doesn't going well it will ruin your working environment, except you already have plan to move to other office or search another job after that
Need to be at least above average to do numbers game with some rate of effiency that it makes some sense. I did it, irl, when I was slightly below average. It's pretty brutals, having to talk to more than 100 women, to have a romantic experience with 1.
I think, numbers game with instagram, facebook and stuff like that (DM slidings) is a matter you overlooked in the video. You need to be good looking again, to be able to have ome reply/interest back.
Counter point though. What's a normie man to do, if he don't want to have the average lifetime laycount which is like 5 - 7 or something? But likes to have a period in life off more variety? Such a nromie man, needs to cheat the system, or do massive high effort (numbersgame) to get that want fulfilled. Because being more passive, waiting for female interest first, and just fishing in the social circles groups with carefully. That will got a nromie man, the average, normal amount of lays per lifetime (aka 5 or 7 or whetever it is).
It's brutals. Having a period in life of slaying, is mainly only an option, for good looking men.
get a passive income and go to SE Asia
@@barbellsamurai8014 Yeah. A nromie or below normie looks level guy, that wants to have slay experience. Will probably need to locationmaxx. Such a man, needs to find a "cheatcode"; otherwise it is never going to happen.
@@quxantipe I did a few six month trips over there and it was great, coming back home to be a second class man is brutal though
@@barbellsamurai8014 Thanks for sharing. I have never done such a thing (yet), so cool to hear your experience. The constrast must be brutals.
@@quxantipe in the film wall street there is a line were darryl hannah says to charlie sheen 'you may find having had money and lost it is worse than never having had it at all'. Having a taste of the good life made the contrast terrible to face
DAMN, now you got me thinking, there was a guy working where I am right now, that I got told, "was a creep that tried to hit on every girl". Exact words man, and what you know, he's sub 5, and I think he was doing the number game; he was clearly not confident and out going, but rather introverted, but tried to come off as a chad, and it just made everyone uncomfortable. Haven't seen him in a while, don't know if he left, but am rather interested in how many girls he asked out before he got labeled "creep that hits on every girl"
Chasing work colleagues is a rotten plan irrespective of your success. Even if the first you ask says yes, odds are it isn't going to end with marriage and happily ever after, so at some point you're setting it up to be working with someone you've broken up with, maybe has cheated on you, highly likely to involve some toxicity if it was acrimonious or sadness if it was a natural end but one party still pines for the other.
And obviously that is without even touching on the 'ew you creep, I'm reporting you to HR' potential of that first approach.
In short, solid advice to not be trying to pull in work or any social place you are planning on returning to all the time.
Valuable remarks . Thanks
ohhh poisoning the fuel. my boss will be forever alone lol
Of the three "narratives" picked apart here, the abundance mindset is the biggest pile of Bravo Sierra. Most men never have many options, or opportunities, how can anyone think they can run a numbers games when the numbers aren't there to begin with.
I’m a Chad. I can say that yeah sure I’ve attracted and dated up to 4 to 5 women simultaneously. But as a Chad, I can say it’s still not easy or necessarily worth it. The ideologies that have been ingrained into most (not all) modern women’s brains makes having a nice relationship with enough polarity practically impossible
Exactly. I think a lot of black pill guys dont understand how a relationship is still gonna be difficult even if youre a chad. The mentality of modern wamen and the dynamics of the relationship nowadays makes having a relationship a headache. You can still have one night stands if you go to clubs or bars if youre about that life. Personally im more of an introvert and dont like going out a lot so wamen are just boring to me.
But then there are girls for ONS and FWB every now and then, and girls and other people just for friendship. I don't see why there should be a problem for Chads unless they are seriously attached to that relationship and family concept.
@@lampardf2333 but it’s still much easier. Anything easier, and I would be much happier
It’s like saying, look I’m a millionaire and money won’t make you happy. I’m not a blackpiller but based on their comments I think that you have no idea how out of touch this sounds. Also do you realize because of you the lake is dry?
"Just run the numbers". I've been doing this all my life in the cold approach. Running the numbers when you're a average/below average man is tough. I Just got pump and dumps, relationships with low value women and it can take a toll on your confidence if you don't pull. And for the majority of the time you don't pull. Success rate was like 5% for me. This video hit me hard. If you don't have a strong ego, it can take a massive toll on your mental
the Richter Scale reference was spot on bro
"The tinder algorithm will punish you" 🤣🤣🤣
Desperation has a literal stink. Stop being needy and desperate and focus on something else. That’s the main problem - don’t force stuff, let it unfold naturally and stop trying to game everything.
-_- FOLLOW THE WAY
POSING THE WELL IS SO TRUE
The guy in the first example should have not asked out every fucking woman in the office xD He should have just lived his life and then asked out Caitlyn when he saw that things progressed naturally so that there was a spark. He fucked that up by being too desperate. Yes literally, don't poison the well for no reason xD Relationships form on their own. Maybe cut out the pills off your diet.
If "looks/height don't matter, the mantra of "dating coaches" especially female ones, I thought " Well if I put up a profile without a pic that is accurate to me (6'1", 190, work out 5 days a week, 2 advanced degrees, 3 languages don't drink/smoke etc) I should get hits. I did get matches from some 7s and couple 8s. But nope they were NOT interested. Maybe it was the "creepy" influence, but the reality is if alledgly NONE of that matters, they should at least want to find out more THEN ask for a selfie/pic....
Great content! The only thing I’ll say about your numbers is that even for your Chads & Tyrones, their actual success (bed) rate is 7%. Not 33.3%
This was proven by Paul Janka. A definite Chad.
After reading so many comments, i think, i am lucky that Number Game worked in my favor. May be pure coincidence..
Def can't call this man a liar
I actually poisoned the well at my work place before I knew any better, but luckily I started looking at signs if a co-worker is interested and what not. After that I got transferred shifts and a new girl came in, and now we're together. So you can actually recover, but it's not easy and you need some luck.
At work, never just "ask a girl out" on a date. If your colleagues "go for a beer" ask her to that or ask if she will be there and then kind of just hang out. If she likes you, especially with alcohol flowing, she will usually let you know or even ask you for a ride home or to "walk her" to her car or subway, etc.., then it is usually okay for you to then ask for a date. If no beers with your colleagues, ask her to lunch (make sure you say you are going there anyway). Offer to pay at the end (especially if you make more). If she offers to pay (even just her share), just smile and say okay. Dont ask her out then but wait some time then ask out for lunch again in a week or two. If she says yes, then she is probably interested in you enough to say yes to a date.
Most "bad" outcomes at work happen when you ask a girl out out of nowhere at work where she rejects you. You have to play it cooler than that at work nowadays. Most people still do meet their future spouses at work or in the same field. You have to be cooler about it at work. No flowers, no gifts, no date..just lunch or a beer so there is plausible deniability if she does not like you.
Thank you for the videos! This channel deserves a lot more subscribers.
Game/confidence CAN matter, but she has to be physically attracted to you to even have a shot.
For example if you and another guy(s) are going for the same girl and you all are equal in terms of looks, height, income, etc then the one with the better "game"/more alpha one is the guy more likely to be successful.
There are many different factors which come into play, but if she's not physically attracted to you then there isn't much you can do.
You need to MOG your competition in all areas in other words.
That sad moment.............when the tinder algorithm also starts judging you.....based on how much you get swiped right.........
brilliant content and channel, keep uploading.
I'm addicted to this channel
Life is a video game, n chads were given the cheat codes
Not really. Chad had to put in the hardwork. But to be a chad, there should be pre-requisite, height. Anything else can be developed. Height alone is not enough. You need body, status & money.
@@hadiakmal9281 Stop lying, face is also incredibly important and skull transplants don't exist.
@@nihilism6226 there is. Its called facial surgery, botox & liposuction.
You are opening my eyes. I'm about to unsubscribe most TH-cam channels selling me bluepill and quasi-redpill lies.
If dating is just about looks, it should not matter how many times a guy gets rejected.
For example if a 7/10 guy gets rejected twice or maybe a couple of times in a warm environment, if he still approaches someone who is 4 or 5/ 10 and was initially interested in him, she wouldn't say no because in the end it's all about looks.
Am I wrong?
Time to spread the blackpill, since my social circle is already used to me being politically incorrect, there is no big risk
> me being a 5
game over for me!
Most men instinctively know this but chooses to ignore this
For cold approach , do not bother to approach women that you are not 1.1 more in height than them. There was a scientific article that researchers did some statistics, and they said that a woman on average thinks that the ideal height for her man is 1.1 taller than her. So if she is 160 cm, she will consider a man 176 tall enough. If he is much taller, she will kind of fear him (fear that he might hurt her if he becomes uncontrollable angry, or fear that he will soon dump her, because he will find her too short eventually and he will attempt to explore other options that he has). So if you are a man 175 cm , approach women 158 - 161. If you are 180 cm tall, approach women 162-165 etc. Of course you should also be athletic and slim. You can not change your face much but you must maximize your body, by doing sports and going to the gym. At least 1 hour per day, everyday, for training. If you have the time to reach 2 hours of training/gym per day, then you will reach your max genetic potential.
This is harsh truth. But a lot of people don’t want to accept it. This video is definitely on point.
2:12 It's like shark tank. When the only shark who made an offer sees that the other sharks went out, that shark changes their offer.
Lol I just swiped right on every girl I considered uglier than me and I got a match within 5 minutes. 🤣
From 2012 to 2017 I was subscribed to eight dating sites. Looking for women 45 to 65, any weight, any height, any job. I went on 100+ dates. After they ate the meal I bought, 80% told me they didn't want a relationship with me because I don't make $100k+, 10% said no because I'm not 6ft+, 10% had other reasons like my house or car weren't expensive enough or I didn't "make them laugh enough on the date". After about rejection 20 it started to get funny as I knew how the date was going to go. I cancelled all of my subscriptions in 2017 and found MGTOW. I was in my 50's during that time, I'm 5'8, about a level 6, I am fit, I make $70k, my net worth is 3x the median for my age, I own my home with no mortgage. I learned the hard way what women are like.
I love the scales you put up. After playing your game I feel I rate generally the same as you. The one scale here I certainly see myself in the 5, 6, and 7 guys. Best I will ever attain is 7 with all the look maxing stuff in the world and will probably end up as ripped 5 due to age wall lol.
Cold approach == recipe for jail time if you are sub8
Playing the numbers is like buying 100 lottery tickets and thinking you'll win the millions.
the thing with Caitlyn is that your social proof was destroyed by the other 2 rejections (must be something wrong with him if they rejected him) and it it seems like you're settling for her not picking her (he's not going to commit to me).
This video made me lol a lot thanks WW :) you are a great dude, I mean it! :) We have discount Rob Lowe as "the Chad" and discount Luke Willson as "the Normie 5" XD
excellent break down; the only rebuttal would be that many would argue that the looks scale is subjective
bone structure isn't subjective
also babies stare at attractive faces 4x longer than ugly faces ... no one has taught a new born to do that, they do it naturally from birth
@@Xenibalt Bullshit. You could easily argue that nr 3 on his scale is just as good looking as nr 5 and that nr 4 is equal in attractiveness to nr 7 . Many women will agree with this. Soft tissue of the face and choice of type also play a big role in attractiveness.
NEVER date at work. It's my motto. I've been approached by cute girls at work but I always keep my distance. No tail is worth problems at work, especially if you have a good job. One of the cute admin girls flat out asked if I wanted to hang out (I'd rate her an 8/10), but I said no, basically because we work together. She's cool though, but I basically friendzoned her haha.
11:12 , the man that is depicted at rate 4 is slightly better that the men depicted at 5 and 6! I think you should change the positions between the man at 4 and the man at 6
i agree. He has a good facial structure with hollow cheeks. He just needs a better haircut
Too much work for poor results, no thanks, keep up the good work my man
Funny how he explains how none of these red pill try's work, yet doesn't describe if you actually are a 1-3 and you attempt the cold approach with no luck and it wont work ... what is the alternative, what will actually work?
Your part B, only apllies to Tinder (and similar apps), not to free social/date sites where you choose the people you want to send a message
Saying “just run numbers” to someone with a low smv is like telling someone with 1 dollar that he can buy a house if he just runs the numbers
It think this is decent advice. Im a short guy and never thought I was attractive. I got in good shape I look fit but short. I talked to any girl that I thought is dateable. I got luck 7th girl I talked to became my GF. I do have the gift of gab and can talk and laugh with anyone. I say keep cold approaching in apprioate places. Get funny and look good. Im purple pill.
True. My experience as well.
So what can we do to get rid of the “creep/weird” label? I guess I found out I have that when I don’t go around hitting up every girl I see. Just mind my business and hit the gym. Also I’ve been told I’m attractive without having to hit up girls or making cold approaches.
Richter scale is so true lol,just dropping one point on the looks scale can affect how women perseive you
i think that the pareto distribution is a much more fitting analogy than the richter scale but great video nonetheless
dating coaches and women are the last kind of people you want to ask for advices really.
I did this and life isn't good
Don't play numbers game in warm environment
Wheat Waffles, you've changed my view of dating apps. I've heard it's damn near impossible for a guy to get a sensible date there, but I reckon it might be because of the swiping guys do that you've mentioned, perhaps I shall give those apps a try in the future, I dunno! I was afraid I'd end up swiping infinitely and infinitely getting rejected or ghosted on. I definitely like the concept of warm approach more as I think it helps you find someone you match well with.
It wasn’t a complete wash for me about 6-5 years ago but it got old. Had some “interesting” dates. I’m 40 now and I’m just not all that interested in putting much into all this anymore.
Just come across this channel, excellent stuff, keep up the good work
I was in a circle in which I hit on ONE girl. I asked ONE girl out and was labeled "That creep that hits on every girl". Probably because I am unattractive :).
That’s ballshit
I hope, your all good now man
I don't fully agree with the video;
1. I agree with your point on numbers game being bad in a warm environment.
2. in an online environment like tinder you are almost fundamentally playing the numbers game. You swipe right on so many people that your chances of getting some increase dramatically. Your advice was "Don't play numbers game online. Instead cooperate with the algorithm." My advice would be "Play the numbers game online, but do it in cooperation with the algorithm." Cooperating with the algorithm and playing the numbers game isn't either or, you can very well do both at the same time. Also, your point only criticized tinder, not all online environment.
3. The benefits from cold approaching don't just include getting laid, but also increased confidence, less social anxiety, ability to smoothly talk to anyone and the increased social skills you develop extend to all social interaction in your life, including job interviews. I think the vast majority of people can escape the sub 5 rating if they max themselves out or at least improve their rating so much that they aren't doomed and the numbers game will get them laid (redpill ideology, a blackpiller would probably disagree). The attractiveness of the face, which is often thought to be genetic, is improvable. The face looks more defined and attractive if you lose body fat and keep your skin healthy and have good hygiene.
Additionally, the numbers game is most effective when leveraging multiple environments. You can use multiple dating apps and do cold approaches to get insane numbers and with the law of averages get good results.
Are you a girl.
@@karlhans6678 no, why
Dr Wheat Waffles, your diagnostic is extremely accurate.
These Videos are way too good
NEVER DATE FROM OFFICE! IF ACCEPTED YOU WILL HAVE DRAMA AT WORK!
You tell what doesn't work but not what works effectively
What works is knowing how good looking you are (or not).