Great vid... I just finished a 128 big bore kit won't go into all the deets.. 140hp / 160tq... uh only cost about $12k all in upgrading everything but the tranny... when it blows it goes.... this all said, had I not already had a RGSpcl, 2019... I'd for sure but this the Indian... way more bang for the buck... So glad Indian is giving HD a hard run for its money! Again, great vid and your daughter is a doll!
Yes in the end its us motorcycle riders that will win of Indian Motorcycle keeps fighting HD!! We all end up riding better stuff!!! Thank you for watching! My daughter is amazing and a handful just like her daddy! Haha
Man!!! Thank you so much for these kind words!! I must need more thumbs ups and shares! Haha idk 🤷♂️ I'll just keep grinding and growing the motorcycle community!! I appreciate you!
Good video man. I have the 114 and it is so smooth I love it. The power feels linear. Not a race bike but it runs good. I previously had a 107 full stage 2. But I really like it stock..so far.
@@DavidSmith-fw6uj from what I hear, they run very well on a lighter bike . I test rode a cvo with the 117 and I could feel the torque compared to the 114. The 117 is more performance with it's cam compared to the 114.
Man, I think that white/black Pursuit is drop dead gorgeous. The red accent stripes really set it off. Really good numbers for bone stock. Be interesting to see where you take this. I would be most satisfied with just Ivan's flash, possibly stage one if not too loud. Looked over a base Pursuit a guy had in his driveway in Laura, OH 2 weeks ago, although he has added to it. Very impressed.
The pursuit is putting down almost exactly what my 2016 Victory Cross Country is doing with a Stage 1. I love the pursuit but I really love that 108 engine... good luck with the bike.
@@Ridingfish Gosh I agree. Really wish they would build that proposed Victory Cross County they had planned back in maybe 2017 that would have carried the new to come PP 108 motor. They had pictures that surfaced back then, very sleek and would never be confused with a HD. But it will not happen.
beautiful bike.. I'm surprised Indian hasn't fixed the throttle lag issue in the 22 models. I had it on my 2020 and easily fixed it with an aftermarket tune (either Lloydz or Dynojet) but you would think Indian would have that resolved out of the box. Get it tuned.. it'll be much better. enjoy the new ride.
I will say that my Challenger didn't seem too bad and like you said the Lloyd'z tune seemed to improve it a little. And now I would say my stock one is fairly good but it's not solid like HD..
I can’t wait to see how this saga continues! I’ve been very curious about how the Challenger does with mods. It’s one of the few bikes I’m possibly interested in over my current Victory Cross Country. Plus there are a lot of similarities to the XC.
Chris!!! I'll be honest after having the Vic CC there isn't a motorcycle that will fit the same except a Challenger!! I appreciate you following I'll do my best to get the information correct and out there!!
@@Ridingfish that’s great to hear! I love the the XC in many ways so it’s good to know. I hope cams come out soon for the Challenger since I’m very curious what they’ll do. I’m guessing a good 15hp like the Vic 106 was. Which would make a hell of a bike without dumping $5k plus in like the HD’s.
My Challenger had the Stage One air and Indian exhaust when I bought it. I did the K&N filter, Tab DeCat, SharkRoad exhaust(actually really good loud but not toooo loud) and RVS tune . Really opened the bike up. Tab talked me out of the Zombies due to lack of back pressure. Which tune is better Lloyds or RVS ?
Depending on the cat delete you went with Zombies could be not that great! And honestly if it was a 2-1 Zombies are LOUD AF!! The two tunes I would say either Lloyd'z or Rvs.. I haven't heard great things about Dyno jet! But I'm sure by now they are dialed in also! I have heard good things from RVS also
My Voyager after ECU flash is supposed to be 112 torque (103.8 motor) with stock air and after market pipes. That`s plenty for me. Bike is half the cost of a new Road Glide or Pursuit. More is fun, only takes $$$$$. Nice Video. Love the color of your bike.
@@Ridingfish ...thanks for the response man. I have a built 2003 cvo road king, screamin eagle 103 stroker that's been rebuilt 10 over, new cams, the works and dynamic tuned...runs strong for a built 103
I have owned Harley’s for years but Indian makes a bad ass bike. Water cooled will always make better power then air cooled. I have thought of getting an Indian but I’m getting older and my riding years are getting fewer. So the chance at trying new bikes is getting slimmer.
Great stuff as always. Interested to see what you do with your bike. I'm going to stick with stock exhaust but did put on the stage 1 air intake. I'll miss the sound of my Vintage with the stage 2 and Rush racing two into one exhaust. Safe travels!
So cool! great vid Fish! If you are able to make update videos as you make improvements you will literally be setting the bar for Motorcycle enthusiast videos, your just getting such cool content out to us. Guest today was a really neat guy to listen to and the dyno and torque discussions are so fun, now I want to rip down with my challenger and get the dyno info..... how much he charging for a nice canadian boy ;)
I'm going to do my best! To keep up! But some things might come in packages ie tune and exhaust.. lol I don't know if I'll be able to do one run to dyno ect... but real numbers with constancy is the goal!
Dude, honestly I'd never buy a bike like that, I love and respect all bikers/riders all tastes Indian, Harley, Triumph, Ducati, Honda, Suzuki, you name it if it has two wheels I salute you, it's like a worldwide brotherhood, you pass by a guy you've never seen and that you'll never see again and he says hi, I'm 55 and I ride a super sport, with something like a Pursuit or a Goldwing or a Challenger I think I'd prefer taking the car but hey that's just me...I don't get the guys that buy the 750 cc Maxi Scooters but hey whatever knocks your socks off. Take care, ride safe.
I appreciate your vids, really like that Pursuit. HD for 30+ years, do my own wrenching. Look forward to when the aftermarket gets deeper involved in the 108. Get her to breathing better (air, exhaust, & cat delete) cam's, tune, I would think 130tq - 125 HP would be easy to find.
After dropping close to 50k on upgrading my harley I love it...but I've now seen in real life what indian offers just stock and what I spent to get to what indian offers stock then just going full send. The indian is better technology/performance bang for your buck absolutely
I will say, though... Im sure your HD is a bad MOFO, tho!!!!! All my friends who have built up their HDs have amazing bikes.. it comes down all the K's to get them built! 💪.. what have you done to yours
It definitely came down to the Ks lol 😆 took 2 1/2 years to get here but I'm happy for now...the short answer for what I did is 131 cases up/baker grudge box/evolution full clutch set up/star racing ramp up for comp/trask Chain conversion/progressive suspension 161 hp and 159tq and it lays it down hard
Hangin with Dad , Learning , your daughter has quit wit , makes me laugh , so cool , I ride a stage 4 Sport Cruiser , all machine work , 112 hp , 118 ftlbs of torque , reverse gear pattern , 2003 trans , smokin
2000 Victory Sport Cruiser , Custom Kandy paint with ghost flames , wheels and rotors painted to match , no flames on rims , why Victory ? American made ! 17 inch rims , rear Fox rebuildable racing shock , 50 mm forks , stance , foot position , aggressive , I’ve work on Autorama cars , they win trophies ! Entered my bike in 4 shows , 3 first place trophies , and one 3rd , and 3rd place trophy had no bike bike division , was put in custom car class , and still placed !
Torque is actually measured, then HP is calculated from it. No one cares: I used to have two Victorys from '11 and '12 until '19; a Vegas and a Cross Country. I traded both in on a '18 Grand America. (I flashed the ECU.) I was more than a little PO'd at Polaris and before they Killed V, I was drooling over Indians. It helps that a lot of HD guys don't like Indian. One of my currents is a flashed ZH2: they dyno around 230/135. BTW - that is a seriously sweet bike! When you hear music over / with the sound of the engine, don't you complain?
Man!! You have a ZH2!!! Im jealous!! Im not sure if I'm a good enough rider to rip on one without getting into issues!! I love this bike and for sure want to change the exhaust note even tho I will say that being stealth mode has been fun at timea
New sub from a 61 year old with new knees, mostly, sport bike guy. A gen3 busa purchased in April. How is the heat with the stock exhaust? I ride all year in AZ.
Oh the heat will be tough on your right leg.. have to make sure to wear PANTS AND BOOTS then leave the vent open just a little to flow the air away from the leg!! You ride year around? What part of AZ.. I use to live outside Yuma
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Thanks for comparison between the HD m8 and Indian pursuit. It’s great that there are competition between to two so we keep getting progression. I like both brands to begin with.
This looks pretty good for a stock tune - can’t wait to see how much better it will get once you update header/exhaust/tune. Are you having your tune performed by Indian dealership?
I took out a 17 RM for a test ride and throttle lag was terrible on it. It was really bad just getting going from a stop and seemed I had to give it alot of throttle before I could start letting the clutch out to go.
He has not had one on his dyno before!! He didn't have the 117 either.. I believe Rev Max PA is what 150hp at the crank and sportserS is about 130.. the PA motor should probably end up in a bagger!! What do you think?
@@Ridingfish I agree. I have a PAS. Love the engine, can’t say enough about it. I came from the sport bike world and love 1250! I wish it would appear in HD’s bigger touring machines too.
My ol' Vic XC 106 upgraded with Lloydz VM-1 cams, Hi-Flow AF, Tri-Oval exhaust with a Noemetz Maximus tune is putting down 112hp \ 115tq at the rear wheel. I'm kind of board with this level of power hauling an 850lbs bike. I don't feel its worth dumping money into it at this point, but on the other hand I don't want to spend big money on a new bike to ride away with about the same power or even less. 😐
I had the XC Magnum before my challenger.... i gotta say one ride on challenger and you'll want one... i thought I'd never part ways from the vic... but wow, the challenger is it. 2 yrs old 10.3. and have 40,000 miles. Lloydz tune and tab ZoMbies! Sold my vic in September '20 of with 40,000miles...
@@Ridingfish Believe me, they are on my mind too😎... After riding the Vic so long, if I got another big tourer\bagger I'd want at least 130+hp \ 140+tq at the wheel out of it. I'm sure the Power Plus has that capability but there doesn't seem to be any real performance upgrades available for the engine and I don't know if I'd want to spend the money on doing a big power upgrade if there was...That is after spending $30k+ on the bike itself...
@@Hipporider I dont like the seating position.....If i could get a bike that had the sound and the fit n finish of a HD...The power and torque of that Triump....and dependablity of Goldwing...and 0 infotainment and sit easy rider style....for 20k out the door i will buy it....other than that i will stay where iam at...
What does all of this mean? Does this make the Indian a better bike? Why does this guy try to complete with Harley so much to prove his bike is worth riding, just enjoy your bike. I ride a Goldwing and I just enjoy my ride, not knocking what others ride.
I'm pretty sure I didn't knock anything.. I even talked about builds that were possible and what it would take to get there.. then talked about a turbo build... but when HD is the biggest and well know they kind of start as a standard... but I was showing bone stock to bone stock.. I appreciate you watching and commenting!!
I'll use my Challenger as an example.. I rode that baby 37,000 miles it was a 2020.. I had one issue at mile 450.. fixed in 5 mins nothing after that! Resell when I traded it in i got one a few thousand less then I paid!
@@Ridingfish Sounds good. I’ve not had any new Harleys, just older ones, couple of Sportsters and a couple of Heritages. Never had any real problems with them that I couldn’t fix myself and I’m just a moderate DIY. I like motorcycles of all sorts, I just like the sound and character of the Harley. By the way, that is a sharp looking bike.
The Challenger, Scout, and Pursuit are Victory bikes with the Indian name on them. The 108 is a water cooled version of the 106. Lloyds was building 106 Victories that would smoke that guys Harley.
Yea honestly I hear you but it's also understandable as Indian Motorcycle brand grew so fast that no way they would be able to make both.. imagine the supply chain issues if that was the case.. now we are seeing Victory DNA in Indian Motorcycle and I'm very happy to ride the best bikes being made!!
I went to an Indian challenger dark horse and quickly got rid of it for a roadglide. Harkey is a better built bike. But indian has also forced harley to up their game as well. Competition is good for us consumers.
I tried to be informative with real facts about motorcycles that has been on his Dyno including mine!! I thought others would find it interesting what one does.. but im pretty sure I talked about HDs with Huge numbers.. honestly if you unsubscribed because of that! I'll still ride with yea! 😎 😎 hell,, I'll race if you wanted!! Hahaha
@@Ridingfish It's not just this video it's like you are obsessed with comparing victory/Polaris Indian to Harley. Who cares if Polaris is faster the speed limits are 55-75 and these arent sportbikes
This was really about making base line and seeing what I do in the future changes my power!! But after talking we thought it was interesting to talk about other base line runs as well as builds!! HD is the big dog why would I not compare them? Ps he only has HD on his dyno.. im the first Indian Motorcycle.. but I hear you bro!
@@Ridingfish Ride safe that is a beautiful Pursuit you got. I haven't had a chance to ride one yet but hopefully will soon. I like the red scheme one the best
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Cool looking bagger. I dig the lights in the lowers
Thank you! I like the look also!
Great vid... I just finished a 128 big bore kit won't go into all the deets.. 140hp / 160tq... uh only cost about $12k all in upgrading everything but the tranny... when it blows it goes.... this all said, had I not already had a RGSpcl, 2019... I'd for sure but this the Indian... way more bang for the buck... So glad Indian is giving HD a hard run for its money! Again, great vid and your daughter is a doll!
Yes in the end its us motorcycle riders that will win of Indian Motorcycle keeps fighting HD!! We all end up riding better stuff!!! Thank you for watching! My daughter is amazing and a handful just like her daddy! Haha
Great video, you have been doing solid work for awhile. Crazy your not getting the subscribers you deserve. 🔥🔥
Man!!! Thank you so much for these kind words!! I must need more thumbs ups and shares! Haha idk 🤷♂️ I'll just keep grinding and growing the motorcycle community!! I appreciate you!
Riding fish you changed after you become a rep
The daughter REALLY makes the show. 😊 Keep her them, if possible. 💪🏾👍🏾❤️. Good content as well. 😂
Oh she loves it... im planning on letting it be family stuff!!
I have the same exact bike but already did the Rinehart exhaust, Indian stage 2 air cleaner and the adaptive headlight on her! Love mine, ride safe!
Hell yea!! Congratulations!! Im looking to do a few things myself!!
Good video man. I have the 114 and it is so smooth I love it. The power feels linear. Not a race bike but it runs good. I previously had a 107 full stage 2. But I really like it stock..so far.
The power is very linear.. I agree with you!
I have been looking at the new STs 117
What do you think about them Harry ❓
@@DavidSmith-fw6uj from what I hear, they run very well on a lighter bike . I test rode a cvo with the 117 and I could feel the torque compared to the 114. The 117 is more performance with it's cam compared to the 114.
This is my favorite Indian color combo yet!
Oh I LOVE IT!! Im also a big fan of the Blue DarkHorse..
I can not wait to see it and Touch it
It looks great on Video 🇺🇸♥️🇺🇸
Those are good numbers for a stock bike. Fun channel.
Thank you for the kind words!! I appreciate you!!
He sounds like a book of knowledge. Can't wait for more information.
He went to MMI! He has some knowledge that for sure!
Excellent video and baseline by the way!!
Thank you!
Very interesting if top end performance is your goal. If you’re just cruising around town @ 3-4,000 rpm, differences are minuscule.
Yea I hear you!! But after that 4000.. it really falls off. Passing merging or even stop light to stop light playing!! Haha
Agreed. If HD went this way, they’d really limit their competitors.
Your kiddo has a great personality
Thank you!! She is awesome!! And will remind me if I forget!! Hahahaha
Man, I think that white/black Pursuit is drop dead gorgeous. The red accent stripes really set it off. Really good numbers for bone stock. Be interesting to see where you take this. I would be most satisfied with just Ivan's flash, possibly stage one if not too loud. Looked over a base Pursuit a guy had in his driveway in Laura, OH 2 weeks ago, although he has added to it. Very impressed.
Thank you!! The red was the deal for me too!! 😆 I'm loving it!! A good flash or tune really wakes up a bike!! 100%!!
I wish I would figure out which flash is the best
Not necessarily in performance in overall Quality ♥️
Very Nice! Congrats on the new bike, love the Colors.
💪 💪 Thank you!
Great video, The Pursuit is a sweet ride! 😎 And BTW, your Daughter is So Cool 😁👍
Thank you!! Minnow is super fun! She enjoys doing the motorcycle stuff so it's like the perfect like full of personality package!! Haha
Great Indian Fish! Keep it up..
Thank you!
I appreciate it so much!! Thank you!
I just wish Indian had the network of dealerships Harley has. I can’t ride to another state every time I need to see a dealer.
I also wish there was more!! Maybe we should open one!! 🤔 haha
The pursuit is putting down almost exactly what my 2016 Victory Cross Country is doing with a Stage 1. I love the pursuit but I really love that 108 engine... good luck with the bike.
YES!! im also a huge fan of this motor.. Im hoping to see it in other type bikes too
@@Ridingfish If this engine was in a Chieftain or better yet a Roadmaster... omfg I'd be in love.
Honestly I would to see it In Springfield... but I would hope they put a "performance model" of the chieftain would be great!
@@Ridingfish Gosh I agree. Really wish they would build that proposed Victory Cross County they had planned back in maybe 2017 that would have carried the new to come PP 108 motor. They had pictures that surfaced back then, very sleek and would never be confused with a HD. But it will not happen.
Seriously great GREAT video. Very good comparison.
I appreciate you and the kind words!!
Love that new bike Fish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you very much!!
Not worth putting cams in!
Just a tune, air intake, pipes and cat delete!
Excellent share!
Larry
That is what I have heard also!! But then Lloyd'z cams sound good!! 🤔 I want bbk!!
Dang that is a beautiful bike! I have a 2018 Chieftain limited... best bike ever.
Thank you!! Indian Motorcycle is killing it right now
beautiful bike.. I'm surprised Indian hasn't fixed the throttle lag issue in the 22 models. I had it on my 2020 and easily fixed it with an aftermarket tune (either Lloydz or Dynojet) but you would think Indian would have that resolved out of the box. Get it tuned.. it'll be much better. enjoy the new ride.
I will say that my Challenger didn't seem too bad and like you said the Lloyd'z tune seemed to improve it a little. And now I would say my stock one is fairly good but it's not solid like HD..
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I can’t wait to see how this saga continues! I’ve been very curious about how the Challenger does with mods. It’s one of the few bikes I’m possibly interested in over my current Victory Cross Country. Plus there are a lot of similarities to the XC.
Chris!!! I'll be honest after having the Vic CC there isn't a motorcycle that will fit the same except a Challenger!! I appreciate you following I'll do my best to get the information correct and out there!!
@@Ridingfish that’s great to hear! I love the the XC in many ways so it’s good to know. I hope cams come out soon for the Challenger since I’m very curious what they’ll do. I’m guessing a good 15hp like the Vic 106 was. Which would make a hell of a bike without dumping $5k plus in like the HD’s.
My Challenger had the Stage One air and Indian exhaust when I bought it. I did the K&N filter, Tab DeCat, SharkRoad exhaust(actually really good loud but not toooo loud) and RVS tune . Really opened the bike up. Tab talked me out of the Zombies due to lack of back pressure.
Which tune is better Lloyds or RVS ?
Depending on the cat delete you went with Zombies could be not that great! And honestly if it was a 2-1 Zombies are LOUD AF!! The two tunes I would say either Lloyd'z or Rvs.. I haven't heard great things about Dyno jet! But I'm sure by now they are dialed in also! I have heard good things from RVS also
Will be interesting to see what exhaust/tune you use, Lloyd's or RVS, I went with RVS/ Tab 2.5
Did you keep you cat? But I think you did good!!
My Voyager after ECU flash is supposed to be 112 torque (103.8 motor) with stock air and after market pipes. That`s plenty for me. Bike is half the cost of a new Road Glide or Pursuit. More is fun, only takes $$$$$. Nice Video. Love the color of your bike.
Voyagers are great bangs for your bucks that is for sure!! Thank you for the kind words!!
Your bike is incredible man but I'm a die hard twin cam pushrod dude...still, can't wait to see what you do with this beautiful machine.
Thank you!!! What twin cam do you have!! I know I really like the 110!! It's a beast!
@@Ridingfish ...thanks for the response man. I have a built 2003 cvo road king, screamin eagle 103 stroker that's been rebuilt 10 over, new cams, the works and dynamic tuned...runs strong for a built 103
I have owned Harley’s for years but Indian makes a bad ass bike. Water cooled will always make better power then air cooled. I have thought of getting an Indian but I’m getting older and my riding years are getting fewer. So the chance at trying new bikes is getting slimmer.
I say go for it!! Enjoy what you can while we can right!!! Ride safe
something to be said about a great running Stock bike. as much as these toys cost. it's good to know you get your hard earned money worth.
For sure!! If I never did another thing I would still be HAPPY and PROUD to own this!!
Great stuff as always. Interested to see what you do with your bike. I'm going to stick with stock exhaust but did put on the stage 1 air intake. I'll miss the sound of my Vintage with the stage 2 and Rush racing two into one exhaust. Safe travels!
Yea it has been fun (kind of) felt like in stealth mode!! Haha
Great video Fish! Wonder what the HD 131 kit looks like on the dyno. I ride with one and it is fast, but not that fast. ;)
I know Big Gabe got his!! But maybe I can get his on the same dyno before ans after he tunes his! 🤔
So cool! great vid Fish! If you are able to make update videos as you make improvements you will literally be setting the bar for Motorcycle enthusiast videos, your just getting such cool content out to us. Guest today was a really neat guy to listen to and the dyno and torque discussions are so fun, now I want to rip down with my challenger and get the dyno info..... how much he charging for a nice canadian boy ;)
I'm going to do my best! To keep up! But some things might come in packages ie tune and exhaust.. lol I don't know if I'll be able to do one run to dyno ect... but real numbers with constancy is the goal!
Dude, honestly I'd never buy a bike like that, I love and respect all bikers/riders all tastes Indian, Harley, Triumph, Ducati, Honda, Suzuki, you name it if it has two wheels I salute you, it's like a worldwide brotherhood, you pass by a guy you've never seen and that you'll never see again and he says hi, I'm 55 and I ride a super sport, with something like a Pursuit or a Goldwing or a Challenger I think I'd prefer taking the car but hey that's just me...I don't get the guys that buy the 750 cc Maxi Scooters but hey whatever knocks your socks off. Take care, ride safe.
Im happy they have bikes of all shapes and sizes for all our styles!! Ride safe!!
I appreciate your vids, really like that Pursuit. HD for 30+ years, do my own wrenching. Look forward to when the aftermarket gets deeper involved in the 108. Get her to breathing better (air, exhaust, & cat delete) cam's, tune, I would think 130tq - 125 HP would be easy to find.
I'm with you! I have heard some 130 ish numbers with Cams
Oh man your daughter needs her own channel, a natural on camera and nice bike.
Hahaha 😆 oh she tells me that!! Haha thank you so much!!
After dropping close to 50k on upgrading my harley I love it...but I've now seen in real life what indian offers just stock and what I spent to get to what indian offers stock then just going full send. The indian is better technology/performance bang for your buck absolutely
I will say, though... Im sure your HD is a bad MOFO, tho!!!!! All my friends who have built up their HDs have amazing bikes.. it comes down all the K's to get them built! 💪.. what have you done to yours
It definitely came down to the Ks lol 😆 took 2 1/2 years to get here but I'm happy for now...the short answer for what I did is 131 cases up/baker grudge box/evolution full clutch set up/star racing ramp up for comp/trask Chain conversion/progressive suspension 161 hp and 159tq and it lays it down hard
Granddaughter is the same way
I ordered the same Pursuit you have on April 15th, still waiting on delivery. Out of curiosity, when did you order the bike?
I ordered mine almost right away when released!! Im hearing bikes are finally rolling off now I'm sure won't be much longer
Yes the throttle lags. It is horrible. I would say it is unsafe because it has a delayed throttle response. I am looking for a reflash now.
Yea!! Honestly I have gotten very use to it.. but. A flash will take care of most if not all of it!
Great channel 👍
Damn!! I appreciate you and the kind words!!
Hangin with Dad , Learning , your daughter has quit wit , makes me laugh , so cool , I ride a stage 4 Sport Cruiser , all machine work , 112 hp , 118 ftlbs of torque , reverse gear pattern , 2003 trans , smokin
What motorcycle are you on?? For sure sounds powerful!! As for Minnow she is pretty damn amazing and we laugh together often!! Love her!
2000 Victory Sport Cruiser , Custom Kandy paint with ghost flames , wheels and rotors painted to match , no flames on rims , why Victory ? American made ! 17 inch rims , rear Fox rebuildable racing shock , 50 mm forks , stance , foot position , aggressive , I’ve work on Autorama cars , they win trophies ! Entered my bike in 4 shows , 3 first place trophies , and one 3rd , and 3rd place trophy had no bike bike division , was put in custom car class , and still placed !
Fly screen windshield , raked back for looks , wind hits me in the Helmet !
Almost bought a CVO , close call !
Torque is actually measured, then HP is calculated from it.
No one cares:
I used to have two Victorys from '11 and '12 until '19; a Vegas and a Cross Country. I traded both in on a '18 Grand America. (I flashed the ECU.) I was more than a little PO'd at Polaris and before they Killed V, I was drooling over Indians. It helps that a lot of HD guys don't like Indian. One of my currents is a flashed ZH2: they dyno around 230/135.
BTW - that is a seriously sweet bike!
When you hear music over / with the sound of the engine, don't you complain?
Man!! You have a ZH2!!! Im jealous!! Im not sure if I'm a good enough rider to rip on one without getting into issues!!
I love this bike and for sure want to change the exhaust note even tho I will say that being stealth mode has been fun at timea
You better listen to her because you know she is the boss lol
Haha oh yes! She runs the show.. wrapped around her finger!! Hahaa
@@Ridingfish you know that’s not your bike that’s hers she just gives you the pleasure to ride it right?
New sub 🙂 currently ride a 21 road glide special. Interested in watching where you go with this. Beautiful bike.
Thank you so much!! I appreciate you!
Sir Robbin you can end up a Indian man 🇺🇸
@@DavidSmith-fw6uj you never know
New sub from a 61 year old with new knees, mostly, sport bike guy. A gen3 busa purchased in April.
How is the heat with the stock exhaust? I ride all year in AZ.
Oh the heat will be tough on your right leg.. have to make sure to wear PANTS AND BOOTS then leave the vent open just a little to flow the air away from the leg!! You ride year around? What part of AZ.. I use to live outside Yuma
Thank you for the sub and the support!!
I'm in Lake Havasu City. The Indian / Victory Dealer in Kingman closed down a few years ago, so it's the Phoenix or Vegas areas that are the closest.
I love my 2022 Chieftan Elite.
Oh man!! The color is amazing!! The motor color scheme is great!!
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Thank you so much!!!! !
You need to tighten up
Good video Fish 👍
Thank you my man!!! I appreciate you watching brother!
TraVeling Tall
I used to Watch your videos then you block me
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Spins to 6450 , up from 5450 , cruiser standard 4750 rpm’s
Thanks for comparison between the HD m8 and Indian pursuit. It’s great that there are competition between to two so we keep getting progression. I like both brands to begin with.
I love all brands they all can learn something from one another!! Us riders are the winners in competition!! I appreciate you join in the talk!
Yamaha Eluder with Ivan's Flash and 90HP/131lb Torque $600 for Tab slip ons $350 for Ivan's Flash.
Yea myself having lots of Yamaha I have heard Ivan did great things.. I have never said one bad word about Yamahas!! Love them!
@@Ridingfish Dude your bike is Puff
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This looks pretty good for a stock tune - can’t wait to see how much better it will get once you update header/exhaust/tune. Are you having your tune performed by Indian dealership?
My plans are all still in the works! From tune to exhaust and even air intakes! Lol
Beautiful bike !
Thank you! Indian Motorcycle knocked it out of the park
Bro, Minnow talking shit about your quiet exhaust makes this whole video, lol. Beautiful bike.
Yea!! I can't even get upset.. I know where she gets it!! Haha
Hell yeah, I knew that as soon as she said it!!
How about a run with just the rubber intake baffle removed?!!
I'll see what I can do!
Why not let Lloyd's do your tune? Lloyd is THE Indian Tuner!
I wanted a bone stock base line.. before any performance stuff at all!!
@@Ridingfish
Smart man Fish.
Link?
A lot of people have had trouble with the Lloyds tune ⚠️🍀⚠️
i noticed the throttle lag on my RoadMaster as well. is it cause of throttle by wire versus physical cable?
Honestly that is my understanding!! I know some can tune it out or "better".. to me it's a getting used to thing!
I took out a 17 RM for a test ride and throttle lag was terrible on it. It was really bad just getting going from a stop and seemed I had to give it alot of throttle before I could start letting the clutch out to go.
I was interested in testing a Pursuit, they don’t exist…
Keep and eye for a demo truck! Or also ride a Challenger next closest thing!
Pegs raised 1 inch , & 2 inches forward , reverse gear pattern
Am a girl dad (3x) 😩 but love ❤ the girl power 🤣
Oh boy 3!!!!! Good luck!! I have the one and only and she already has got me getting gray hair!
Dude...your daughter is hilarious 😂 😃 😄
Hahaha She really is!! 🤣 thank you
No mention of the 1250 HD RevMax?
He has not had one on his dyno before!! He didn't have the 117 either.. I believe Rev Max PA is what 150hp at the crank and sportserS is about 130.. the PA motor should probably end up in a bagger!! What do you think?
@@Ridingfish I agree. I have a PAS. Love the engine, can’t say enough about it. I came from the sport bike world and love 1250! I wish it would appear in HD’s bigger touring machines too.
1 horse power , the amount of energy to lift either 50 or 300 lbs , can’t remember , off the ground 3 feet , and hold it there , pictures from history
I have seen this measurement also!! I forgot about it
My ol' Vic XC 106 upgraded with Lloydz VM-1 cams, Hi-Flow AF, Tri-Oval exhaust with a Noemetz Maximus tune is putting down 112hp \ 115tq at the rear wheel. I'm kind of board with this level of power hauling an 850lbs bike. I don't feel its worth dumping money into it at this point, but on the other hand I don't want to spend big money on a new bike to ride away with about the same power or even less. 😐
I had the XC Magnum before my challenger.... i gotta say one ride on challenger and you'll want one... i thought I'd never part ways from the vic... but wow, the challenger is it. 2 yrs old 10.3. and have 40,000 miles. Lloydz tune and tab ZoMbies! Sold my vic in September '20 of with 40,000miles...
The Vics are GREAT bikes!!! I think we all agree but the dang Challenger got into my dreams after I rode it myself!! Haha
@@Ridingfish Believe me, they are on my mind too😎... After riding the Vic so long, if I got another big tourer\bagger I'd want at least 130+hp \ 140+tq at the wheel out of it. I'm sure the Power Plus has that capability but there doesn't seem to be any real performance upgrades available for the engine and I don't know if I'd want to spend the money on doing a big power upgrade if there was...That is after spending $30k+ on the bike itself...
All. Very. Good. Points!!!
I have learned the 112 bbk would get that 140/140
@@ta-tonka1175 ... Exactly why I refuse to test ride a Challenger or Pursuit 🤣😂
I was going to buy used
But just order my 22 dark horse pursuit in silver quartz
Boom!! Thats a great color!!
Congratulations on the pursuit 🇺🇸♥️🇺🇸
Good luck and GOD BLESS
LOVE From Mississippi USA
I ride a Harley for the torque not the horsepower...So the M8's are comparable in the torque department with Indian...
Yes for sure!!! The 114 had almost exactly the same!
If you get a chance, test ride a Triumph Rocket 3. The highest torque bike, low revs and all, if you like torque! 🇦🇺
@@Hipporider I dont like the seating position.....If i could get a bike that had the sound and the fit n finish of a HD...The power and torque of that Triump....and dependablity of Goldwing...and 0 infotainment and sit easy rider style....for 20k out the door i will buy it....other than that i will stay where iam at...
Oh I want to ride one sooo bad!!! 100%!!
Brad, might be easier to win the lottery and build one!! Haha not 20k tho! 😢 😭
Good info. I subscribed because I’m interested in the bike and the progress you inferred, but are you trolling your own videos?
What do you mean trolling my own video? I appreciate the sub!
What does all of this mean? Does this make the Indian a better bike? Why does this guy try to complete with Harley so much to prove his bike is worth riding, just enjoy your bike. I ride a Goldwing and I just enjoy my ride, not knocking what others ride.
I'm pretty sure I didn't knock anything.. I even talked about builds that were possible and what it would take to get there.. then talked about a turbo build... but when HD is the biggest and well know they kind of start as a standard... but I was showing bone stock to bone stock.. I appreciate you watching and commenting!!
I love your bike and look to be riding one soon. Sorry for misjudging you Bro.
Honestly all good I appreciate it.
He's not knocking other's. Harley dominates so it's best to compare to it.
I don’t know anything about the Indians. How are they doing as far as reliability and durability and resale value?
I'll use my Challenger as an example.. I rode that baby 37,000 miles it was a 2020.. I had one issue at mile 450.. fixed in 5 mins nothing after that! Resell when I traded it in i got one a few thousand less then I paid!
@@Ridingfish Sounds good. I’ve not had any new Harleys, just older ones, couple of Sportsters and a couple of Heritages. Never had any real problems with them that I couldn’t fix myself and I’m just a moderate DIY. I like motorcycles of all sorts, I just like the sound and character of the Harley. By the way, that is a sharp looking bike.
1678.00 in 2003 , 8 hours , whole day , things get more expensive
Only problem I have with all the new motorcycles are chain drive cams....
Honestly I don't know.. but why?
Just seen the back end of that thing for the first time.I like a big butt, but it's gotta be round. The older (Springfield) shape was nicer
i liked the old style also
do you have contact info or website for arc tunning, could not find.
arktunigmn@gmail.com
Also on Instagram
i wouldnt want a tuner that said horsepower is made up because its a math equation lmao
Don't think I'd ever buy a polaris Indian after they hung the victory owners out to dry
The Challenger, Scout, and Pursuit are Victory bikes with the Indian name on them. The 108 is a water cooled version of the 106. Lloyds was building 106 Victories that would smoke that guys Harley.
Yea honestly I hear you but it's also understandable as Indian Motorcycle brand grew so fast that no way they would be able to make both.. imagine the supply chain issues if that was the case.. now we are seeing Victory DNA in Indian Motorcycle and I'm very happy to ride the best bikes being made!!
Made up numbers?! I knew it! I just knew it, that Math was totally bogus! All that time and stress wasted in High School! (Sob!)
Tq over time equals HP!?!
@@Ridingfish Ain't nobody got time for dat!
LAMENTAVEL , A INDIAN NOS DEIXOU TÃO CEDO NO BRASIL.
Desculpe ouvir isso!
Looks like Goldwing plastic and cheap decals. Supposed to compete with road glides? Lol. Not that one.
Yea. It leaves road glides in the lot
I went to an Indian challenger dark horse and quickly got rid of it for a roadglide. Harkey is a better built bike. But indian has also forced harley to up their game as well. Competition is good for us consumers.
Don't be a hater bro.
@@billdarling9527 I couldn't agree with you less Mr Darling. Obviously you belong in a flock of sheep 🐑
You should take one for a ride.
Why don't you be happy and ride your bike and quit comparing to Harley all the time? I unsubscribed because of it
Ooh, another butthurt HD rider doesn't like Indian comparisons. Gee, I wonder why?
I tried to be informative with real facts about motorcycles that has been on his Dyno including mine!! I thought others would find it interesting what one does.. but im pretty sure I talked about HDs with Huge numbers.. honestly if you unsubscribed because of that! I'll still ride with yea! 😎 😎 hell,, I'll race if you wanted!! Hahaha
@@Ridingfish It's not just this video it's like you are obsessed with comparing victory/Polaris Indian to Harley. Who cares if Polaris is faster the speed limits are 55-75 and these arent sportbikes
This was really about making base line and seeing what I do in the future changes my power!! But after talking we thought it was interesting to talk about other base line runs as well as builds!! HD is the big dog why would I not compare them? Ps he only has HD on his dyno.. im the first Indian Motorcycle.. but I hear you bro!
@@Ridingfish Ride safe that is a beautiful Pursuit you got. I haven't had a chance to ride one yet but hopefully will soon. I like the red scheme one the best
Looks like it's 1000lbs
I put it on the scale and it was around 1150 lbs with me on it.. not very loaded