Just bought one in January for 20k with only 30k miles on it. Absolutely. In. Love. With. This. Car. It is a blast to drive especially given you’re smart and get the 6 speed manual transmission.
Mike, great, great review! And your a natural as it looks like you have a lot of experience doing it. You give a concise account of pros & cons. Keep up the good work!
Loved your review. Very objective and to the point. Also liked how it seemed like you drove the vehicle for awhile before the review. One improvement I can offer is the price. The out the door price is not at $ 32,000 (40k Canadaian) even if that is what the sticker shows. The dealers are selling this car for less. I advise people to ask their dealers about this vehicle because it is possible to get it for $25,000 or lower. Thank you for the post!
Solid review! Considering getting this car (since I can't quite afford the A4 that I want), but curious about the new Jetta coming out next year. VW has been knocking it out of the park lately, so i'm hoping they do the next Jetta justice. And also that they don't make us wait for the GLI model.
My fiance had a 2017 A4 loaner when she brought her A3 in for service: I have to say that unless you're going to get a fully loaded A4 with at least an S-line package, the GLI is a far better driving car and IMHO more fun. Yes, the A4 is faster, but it's nowhere near as rewarding to drive. You're just paying for the prestige of the 4 circles on the front grill...
Mike I paid near $35,000 for my 07 GTI which I still have. It now has 285,000 km on it and includes the DSG. My car has been flawless. It was expensive but in the end was well worth it. I'd buy this car however it would be a lightly used one as your tester looks similar to a 2007 GLI. Anyway, carry on.
Good review, I am looking at a 16 GLI right now and am torn about upgrading from my 14 Tsi with 170 hp. But I think i will make the leap anyway. lol. Thanks again. (and yes I know this is not a review of the 16 GLI.)
You can probably (here in the U.S.) find a 2017 Jetta GLI for less than $25K, if you shop around. Got mine last month for a little over $24K. A great deal for a great car.
Here in the US 2016-2017s are sitting on dealer lots in the low $20k's. Not a bad car and fairly tunable. It just sucks that if you get one this late, the brand new model will be out soon.
I have a 2016 to the VW GLI SEL. I agree on what he says when you're accelerating it does sound like they trying to spread the sound throughout the cabin. I put it AWE track exhaust on that fix that. And got real noise out of the engine
I wish I had that interior on my 1.4 TSI Jetta, lol. I would have went for the GLI at the time of purchase but I already had a summer car and just wanted a daily. The GLI is a nice understated entry-level performance car - with a tune it would be fun :). If it were in the low $30K out the door I'd be driving it and not the 1.4T
i had the 2011 GLI and one thing that bothered me was the trunk. Most people park on driveways and mine has a slight slope and when i open the trunk it wold always come back down as i was inside the trunk getting groceries. In all car reviews i always see reviewers talk about trunk space but its always on flat pavement. try it on a slope and see if it will stay up.
Great review. 1 constructive critique: the voice volume when you are off screen is very low and hard to hear. The sound mixing could use a bit more finesse. Other than that, excellent review!
Kenny Albert There is a lot more to what makes a GLI a "GLI" than just a beefy engine.. 1. DSG transmission 2. XDS cross differential 3. Larger diameter sway bars w/sway bar linkage 4. VWR coil springs 5. GLI front fascia 6. LED tail lights 7. Chrome exhaust tips 8. Black head liner 9. GLI interior accents 10. Footwell lighting 11. Fender premium audio 12. Self dimming rear view mirror 13. GLI sport steering wheel 14. Blind spot monitoring 15. Rear cross traffic warning 16. Park pilot 17. GLI red fabric stitching 18. Paddle shifters 19. Rain sensing wipers 20. Side flairs/ground effects.. I'm not sure a GLI-esque sport tuned suspension, sport bucket seats and some custom rims qualifies as a "sport model", but it's all in the packaging I guess?
Hmm really interesting car.. something new since it's not available in Europe (probably because nobody buys the regular Jetta.. but a Golf Wagon GTI/GLI would be cool
If you are looking for performance and nimbleness, the GTI is a much better car. The GLI is the compromise between comfort and performance. Or you buy a GLI if you are hatchback phobic.
What really annoys me is manufacturers only offer engine upgrade on the top trim in attempt to upsell people who wants the better engine. Fortunately there are still others who offers it on lower trims, so VW lost a customer instead of upsell me.
People choose the DSG because it handles power a lot better than the manual. Many GLI owners will APR tune it at their local VW dealer, which would put it at 260hp and 300ft-lb torque. Seems like you hardly did any research on the car before hand. Also, you seem to have such a negative attitude towards this car. 1/10 review
Considering this car is comparable to the Hyundai Elantra Sport which is $10,000 less the GLI is crazy expensive. Even a trendline sport/tech with the 1.8L is almost as nice and you can get them for under $30K, 40hp (and the premium gas to go with it) for $10K just isn't worth it.
Whaaaat?? So the Canadian GLI is 60% more expensive than the US version whereas the Canadian Golf R is merely 15% more expensive than the US version?!? Ouch!!! I cant imagine its even worth selling it there at that point given the regular GTI is more powerful, better handling and more upscale.
Got a price quote for this car w/dsg $25k here in the US. Being this is the end of the model year, and this model is due to be redesigned/refreshed, I think that discount off msrp is good, but still not enough. Also, not enough of a price difference from what you can get a GTI for. I don't like to compare the amenities of a GLI vs the GTI, because the GLI pretty much comes fully loaded, but as we know the GTI does not. Putting the handling differences aside, the main point of contention I have always had in comparing the GLI to the GTI, is the engine. Same engine, yet the GLI has 210 hp/207 tq, and the GTI has the 210 or 220/258 tq. Is this just because the GTI is on the newer platform ? It seems clear that the mission statement for VW North America with the GLI and GTI is clearly different. More comfort tuned entry level performance sedan vs entry level to mid level performance hatchback. I believe they should build them on equal ground, and have the consumers choice simply come down to one question: Do I want a sedan or a hatchback. With the 2018 models, hopefully that will happen. Also, I would like to see a Jetta R to go in line with the Golf R. Consumer choice in car buying is a good thing. I know car manufacturers are very opposed to that line of thinking, as well as to change. The Audi guys would probably object to a Jetta R here in the US, but I think it would be great to be able to choose a Jetta R if you wanted one instead of the Golf R.
Yes smasila, thats an interesting point. Generally the price of a VW is marked up in the US by about $3-4K, yet the resale value is decidedly lower than avg. come trade in or resale time. Toyota or Honda may have the so called "reliability reputation markup" when you buy it, but the resale value holds up to stay true to that come trade in/resale time. I have always liked some of the VW vehicles over the years, but lets just call it what it is. The long term reliability of the VW's is suspect. If it wasn't, then the resale values wouldn't plummet the way they do vs some other brands (such as Honda and Toyota).
I have this car in the 2016 model. Love it, but just know those stock tires are absolute garbage. Edit: I'm not sure how the price came to 40k for this car. Msrp on my 2016 was 30,500, and I know someone who picked theirs up for 26,500 from a dealer trying to get rid of it. Both are fully loaded SEL models. I presume you are using Canadian dollars not USD which may explain things.
Canadian $ and this was a fully loaded model. The price I quote included tax and was simply to illustrate that the all-in price is getting dangerously close to that $40k point. According to many viewers there are handsome discounts to be found on this GLI as it's the last of this generation before being updated for 18'.
Reset your trip meter when you fill up for gas. When you fill it again later, look at the trip meter and divide it by how much gas you filled. In my experience VW gets better than their rating. Most cars do. My V8 Audi says 22 hwy but I can actually get closer to 25 or better.
@@GeekTherapyRadio VWs only get better mileage on premium fuel. The Mk6 GTI says it can operate on 90 octane, but when I put 91 in it only gets ~26 mpg highway. When I put 93 in it jumps to ~31 mixed. I try to only use Marathon and Sunoco in it.
Well, the Jetta hasn't been updated since Mulroney was PM. My '15 Golf has rear vents, but it's also newer. The Jetta is in serious need of a total refresh.
Jake Root VW is starting production of the all new MK7 Jetta in December of this year, and it will go on sale some time in early 2018. It will be similar to the Golf in many ways including its MQB chassis. However, I’ve seen leaked pictures of what it will look like, and I don’t like it...
"For 40K' i'd be looking at the Golf R". But you are comparing the after tax+fees price of the GLI (which is 35K base price) to the base price of the R? It's like when you compare cars, you forget the higher tier car ALSO has tax+fees on top of its base price, making the comparison invalid.
RemX405 it's also invalid because the Jetta is a far larger car than the golf. People buying Jettas find the Golf too small (why we bought our 1.8 TSI Jetta).
RemX405 it's a ridiculous comparison really.. but it's not all his fault. Cars are so good these days he has to stretch the truth to find something to say.
Hey guys, my thought process was this: at $36-37k it's well into the Golf R "sphere", if you will. If you're looking for a sporty small car, it's not unthinkable that you could be upsold if the budget gap is only 2-4 thousand dollars. It's the low-hanging fruit within the VW brand so I decided to go with that.
Mike Gurr but it isn't in the same sphere - go beyond the MSRP and investigate actual selling prices. GLI : discounts, cars available. Golf R : none available for months and zero discounts. It's an unfair comparison man.
Why theydont just give this the power upgde the GTI has is beyond me. No reason to get this more expensive and slower vw. Needs a mechanical LSD like the Civic SI
I'll second this. As I alluded to, this Jetta is definitely showing it's age a bit (still quite good which is impressive). Very much looking forward to the next gen MQB based Jetta.
Mike the Golf R is a great car but is not comparable to this car in price, performance or features. I bought an S3 when I considered the R as it was a few thousand more and made in Germany. Where is this Jetta made? The current GTI is made in Mexico where this is probably made. Therefore it's a pass.
Hey David, my thought process was this: at $36-37k it's well into the Golf R "sphere", if you will. If you're looking for a sporty small car, it's not unthinkable that you could be upsold if the budget gap is only 2-4 thousand dollars.
Great review as always, but honestly... I don't get the love affair people have with VW. Cheap interiors, boring as well. Exterior isn't anything spectacular. They're expensive for what you get as well. I'm hoping the new model next year will actually be worth something to buy.
smasila Camry isn't even in the same class as the GLI lmao Camry is a full size sedan that can be compared to accord and Altima. Gli is in the same class as civic si and Carolla
Just bought one in January for 20k with only 30k miles on it. Absolutely. In. Love. With. This. Car. It is a blast to drive especially given you’re smart and get the 6 speed manual transmission.
“That sounds fake to me” that’s the turbo spooling up LMFAOOO
Masoud Rahshani this guys saying a dual clutch is not smooth because when u hit the gas it’s literally a clutch engaging🤦🏻♂️
look up "soundaktor"
I really enjoy Mike's reviews, direct and to the point, good stuff!
Mike, great, great review! And your a natural as it looks like you have a lot of experience doing it. You give a concise account of pros & cons. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Ben
Loved your review. Very objective and to the point. Also liked how it seemed like you drove the vehicle for awhile before the review. One improvement I can offer is the price. The out the door price is not at $ 32,000 (40k Canadaian) even if that is what the sticker shows. The dealers are selling this car for less. I advise people to ask their dealers about this vehicle because it is possible to get it for $25,000 or lower. Thank you for the post!
another great review Mike!
Solid review! Considering getting this car (since I can't quite afford the A4 that I want), but curious about the new Jetta coming out next year. VW has been knocking it out of the park lately, so i'm hoping they do the next Jetta justice. And also that they don't make us wait for the GLI model.
My fiance had a 2017 A4 loaner when she brought her A3 in for service: I have to say that unless you're going to get a fully loaded A4 with at least an S-line package, the GLI is a far better driving car and IMHO more fun. Yes, the A4 is faster, but it's nowhere near as rewarding to drive. You're just paying for the prestige of the 4 circles on the front grill...
Mike I paid near $35,000 for my 07 GTI which I still have. It now has 285,000 km on it and includes the DSG. My car has been flawless. It was expensive but in the end was well worth it. I'd buy this car however it would be a lightly used one as your tester looks similar to a 2007 GLI. Anyway, carry on.
If you do the Soundaktor delete, new tires and Neuspeed Power Module upgrade I feel you have what this should be from factory. Great video.
Got this car for 21k. Amazing.
Good review, I am looking at a 16 GLI right now and am torn about upgrading from my 14 Tsi with 170 hp. But I think i will make the leap anyway. lol. Thanks again. (and yes I know this is not a review of the 16 GLI.)
You can probably (here in the U.S.) find a 2017 Jetta GLI for less than $25K, if you shop around. Got mine last month for a little over $24K. A great deal for a great car.
Sucks to be in Canada apparently, got a brand new 17 gli in America for 25k at a dealer
different currency homie
The soundaktor can be removed via OBD11 or VCDS if you don't want to here the fake noises. :)
Just unplug it lol
Here in the US 2016-2017s are sitting on dealer lots in the low $20k's. Not a bad car and fairly tunable. It just sucks that if you get one this late, the brand new model will be out soon.
Nice job Mike!
I have a 2016 to the VW GLI SEL. I agree on what he says when you're accelerating it does sound like they trying to spread the sound throughout the cabin. I put it AWE track exhaust on that fix that. And got real noise out of the engine
I wish I had that interior on my 1.4 TSI Jetta, lol. I would have went for the GLI at the time of purchase but I already had a summer car and just wanted a daily. The GLI is a nice understated entry-level performance car - with a tune it would be fun :). If it were in the low $30K out the door I'd be driving it and not the 1.4T
i had the 2011 GLI and one thing that bothered me was the trunk. Most people park on driveways and mine has a slight slope and when i open the trunk it wold always come back down as i was inside the trunk getting groceries. In all car reviews i always see reviewers talk about trunk space but its always on flat pavement. try it on a slope and see if it will stay up.
Really great car review! I've watched many videos and this is one of the best.
I second that.
Thanks!
Wonderful review
Like the Jetta, Like the Mike.
Here in the USA you can get this car for 24k to 25k
505 enthusiast now for 18k
Now for 15k
Canadian money isnt worth anything thats why.
Can you do review of this car with the manual transmission?
Great review. 1 constructive critique: the voice volume when you are off screen is very low and hard to hear. The sound mixing could use a bit more finesse. Other than that, excellent review!
Thanks for that, I'll take a close look at this for the next review.
I have the same, a white Autobahn 2016 with 6-speed automatic DSG. Ça marche...
please do an in-depth review the 2018 VW e-Golf
I didn't really see a big thing on the GLI asides the engine, so I went with the 1.8T Sport
Kenny Albert There is a lot more to what makes a GLI a "GLI" than just a beefy engine..
1. DSG transmission
2. XDS cross differential
3. Larger diameter sway bars w/sway bar linkage
4. VWR coil springs
5. GLI front fascia
6. LED tail lights
7. Chrome exhaust tips
8. Black head liner
9. GLI interior accents
10. Footwell lighting
11. Fender premium audio
12. Self dimming rear view mirror
13. GLI sport steering wheel
14. Blind spot monitoring
15. Rear cross traffic warning
16. Park pilot
17. GLI red fabric stitching
18. Paddle shifters
19. Rain sensing wipers
20. Side flairs/ground effects..
I'm not sure a GLI-esque sport tuned suspension, sport bucket seats and some custom rims qualifies as a "sport model", but it's all in the packaging I guess?
Just picked up one of these in a manual trans. for just over $23,000USD. $40,000CAD? Insane.
If 35/40 grand is to much you can always spend 105 on a crappy Cadillac
It sounds like the 2.5 5cyl and vr6 at once I don't like it. But you can hear induction and slight blow off if you have the windows down.
The guy is sharp
Exhaust note sounds good to me.
Hmm really interesting car.. something new since it's not available in Europe (probably because nobody buys the regular Jetta.. but a Golf Wagon GTI/GLI would be cool
FWIW, $40,000CAD is a little more than $31,000USD
If you are looking for performance and nimbleness, the GTI is a much better car. The GLI is the compromise between comfort and performance. Or you buy a GLI if you are hatchback phobic.
I'd love to see a Passat R, With the Audi V6 engine and AWD
Nooooooo, a friggen automatic! Good job on the review, Mike.
I probably go for Passat 3.6L 280 hp also give you sporty feeling and 0-60 in 6 sec.
Henry Zhang that thing plows like crazy and is the size of a yacht. Good luck
The passat gt is coming in 2018. The sport version of the passat
Passat GT 0-60 5.7 seconds! QUICK!
What really annoys me is manufacturers only offer engine upgrade on the top trim in attempt to upsell people who wants the better engine. Fortunately there are still others who offers it on lower trims, so VW lost a customer instead of upsell me.
Mike is so awesome
40k for a gli!? Here in the US I've seen the 2017 for as low as 21k with DSG. The golf R on the other hand is 41k.
People choose the DSG because it handles power a lot better than the manual. Many GLI owners will APR tune it at their local VW dealer, which would put it at 260hp and 300ft-lb torque.
Seems like you hardly did any research on the car before hand. Also, you seem to have such a negative attitude towards this car.
1/10 review
What’s APR tune?
Because you don't add fees and taxes to the Golf R price? VW Canada has $3500 cash incentive on GLI, nada on Golf R...
Considering this car is comparable to the Hyundai Elantra Sport which is $10,000 less the GLI is crazy expensive. Even a trendline sport/tech with the 1.8L is almost as nice and you can get them for under $30K, 40hp (and the premium gas to go with it) for $10K just isn't worth it.
$44k at our local dealership is crazy. Golf R 48k :(
Whaaaat?? So the Canadian GLI is 60% more expensive than the US version whereas the Canadian Golf R is merely 15% more expensive than the US version?!? Ouch!!! I cant imagine its even worth selling it there at that point given the regular GTI is more powerful, better handling and more upscale.
Lol 44k? Absurd.
LOL...it'll be less than 20k in less than 2 years.
Got a price quote for this car w/dsg $25k here in the US. Being this is the end of the model year, and this model is due to be redesigned/refreshed, I think that discount off msrp is good, but still not enough. Also, not enough of a price difference from what you can get a GTI for. I don't like to compare the amenities of a GLI vs the GTI, because the GLI pretty much comes fully loaded, but as we know the GTI does not. Putting the handling differences aside, the main point of contention I have always had in comparing the GLI to the GTI, is the engine. Same engine, yet the GLI has 210 hp/207 tq, and the GTI has the 210 or 220/258 tq. Is this just because the GTI is on the newer platform ? It seems clear that the mission statement for VW North America with the GLI and GTI is clearly different. More comfort tuned entry level performance sedan vs entry level to mid level performance hatchback. I believe they should build them on equal ground, and have the consumers choice simply come down to one question: Do I want a sedan or a hatchback. With the 2018 models, hopefully that will happen. Also, I would like to see a Jetta R to go in line with the Golf R. Consumer choice in car buying is a good thing. I know car manufacturers are very opposed to that line of thinking, as well as to change. The Audi guys would probably object to a Jetta R here in the US, but I think it would be great to be able to choose a Jetta R if you wanted one instead of the Golf R.
Yes smasila, thats an interesting point. Generally the price of a VW is marked up in the US by about $3-4K, yet the resale value is decidedly lower than avg. come trade in or resale time. Toyota or Honda may have the so called "reliability reputation markup" when you buy it, but the resale value holds up to stay true to that come trade in/resale time. I have always liked some of the VW vehicles over the years, but lets just call it what it is. The long term reliability of the VW's is suspect. If it wasn't, then the resale values wouldn't plummet the way they do vs some other brands (such as Honda and Toyota).
I have this car in the 2016 model. Love it, but just know those stock tires are absolute garbage.
Edit: I'm not sure how the price came to 40k for this car. Msrp on my 2016 was 30,500, and I know someone who picked theirs up for 26,500 from a dealer trying to get rid of it. Both are fully loaded SEL models. I presume you are using Canadian dollars not USD which may explain things.
Canadian $ and this was a fully loaded model. The price I quote included tax and was simply to illustrate that the all-in price is getting dangerously close to that $40k point. According to many viewers there are handsome discounts to be found on this GLI as it's the last of this generation before being updated for 18'.
How do you know their mpg fuel economy values are correct and not faked?
You're confusing VW with Hyundai and their fuel Econ cheating :)
Reset your trip meter when you fill up for gas.
When you fill it again later, look at the trip meter and divide it by how much gas you filled.
In my experience VW gets better than their rating. Most cars do.
My V8 Audi says 22 hwy but I can actually get closer to 25 or better.
@@GeekTherapyRadio VWs only get better mileage on premium fuel. The Mk6 GTI says it can operate on 90 octane, but when I put 91 in it only gets ~26 mpg highway. When I put 93 in it jumps to ~31 mixed. I try to only use Marathon and Sunoco in it.
How about a 2018????
How can you say you would rather go for a Golf R over a GLI... Completely different price point.
No reat vents?? Wow
Well, the Jetta hasn't been updated since Mulroney was PM. My '15 Golf has rear vents, but it's also newer. The Jetta is in serious need of a total refresh.
Jake Root It's being refreshed for 2018
Jake Root VW is starting production of the all new MK7 Jetta in December of this year, and it will go on sale some time in early 2018. It will be similar to the Golf in many ways including its MQB chassis. However, I’ve seen leaked pictures of what it will look like, and I don’t like it...
Installed a Borla, and turned off the soundaktor. Problem solved.
"For 40K' i'd be looking at the Golf R". But you are comparing the after tax+fees price of the GLI (which is 35K base price) to the base price of the R? It's like when you compare cars, you forget the higher tier car ALSO has tax+fees on top of its base price, making the comparison invalid.
RemX405 it's also invalid because the Jetta is a far larger car than the golf. People buying Jettas find the Golf too small (why we bought our 1.8 TSI Jetta).
RemX405 it's a ridiculous comparison really.. but it's not all his fault. Cars are so good these days he has to stretch the truth to find something to say.
Hey guys, my thought process was this: at $36-37k it's well into the Golf R "sphere", if you will. If you're looking for a sporty small car, it's not unthinkable that you could be upsold if the budget gap is only 2-4 thousand dollars. It's the low-hanging fruit within the VW brand so I decided to go with that.
Mike Gurr but it isn't in the same sphere - go beyond the MSRP and investigate actual selling prices. GLI : discounts, cars available. Golf R : none available for months and zero discounts.
It's an unfair comparison man.
No AWD?
Where is it made?
John Derek Pan Mexico I believe. But some parts like transmission are made in Germany
So now the Volkswagen Jetta not only has the build quality and reliability of an old 70's East German car but it actually looks like one too!
Yeah, they sure introduced a new Jetta.... It's as big as a Passat and downright ugly! If I wanted a mid-sized VW, I'd buy the better looking Passat.
360p. Too early here.
Why theydont just give this the power upgde the GTI has is beyond me. No reason to get this more expensive and slower vw. Needs a mechanical LSD like the Civic SI
I'll second this. As I alluded to, this Jetta is definitely showing it's age a bit (still quite good which is impressive). Very much looking forward to the next gen MQB based Jetta.
I want it 😭
Red accents on the doors are terrible. And Volkswagen didn't rip anything from Audi as they own them.
Shared from the same "parts bin", if you will. This was a compliment to the VW range....
please review yaris sedan?
Mike the Golf R is a great car but is not comparable to this car in price, performance or features. I bought an S3 when I considered the R as it was a few thousand more and made in Germany. Where is this Jetta made? The current GTI is made in Mexico where this is probably made. Therefore it's a pass.
Hey David, my thought process was this: at $36-37k it's well into the Golf R "sphere", if you will. If you're looking for a sporty small car, it's not unthinkable that you could be upsold if the budget gap is only 2-4 thousand dollars.
The GLI is a great car but it has a dated design, therefore if I bought one it would be used with low mileage/kilometerage.
Great review Mike. 40K for a VW? No thanks
Great review as always, but honestly... I don't get the love affair people have with VW. Cheap interiors, boring as well. Exterior isn't anything spectacular. They're expensive for what you get as well. I'm hoping the new model next year will actually be worth something to buy.
40k? My jetta gli is only 27
Canadian price vs US price.
It's a shame that GLI doesn't come with the 258ft Torque like the GTI
I think if it did, you might see lower sales of GTI.
base G70 from Genesis...way better car for the extra 2 grand
The low speed jerking goes away after break in. Then turns to budda.
name your kid nick ;)
Passat GT is larger and quicker and no jerky DSG.
Might as well get a v6 accord.
not this guy
no thanks 40k for a jetta
More neg than pos review. I think he's a VW fence-sitter. Guaranteed, this guys own car is not a VW.
Sounds fake, probably because it is fake lol
Almost as expensive as a Lexus IS250.... lol
Buck Futter IS250 was discontinued in 2015.
This guy a clown
I can't stand people getting these cars in dsgs.
still just a loaded Jetta.
wow what a boring car. The new Toyota Camry destroys this in look and power.
smasila Camry isn't even in the same class as the GLI lmao Camry is a full size sedan that can be compared to accord and Altima. Gli is in the same class as civic si and Carolla
smasila the new toyota is so overly done it hurts my eyes.
Mike is okay but i am honestly disappointed each time i open a review and it is not Zack.