Awesome review and video; clear, concise, and seemingly honest. Your explanation of the functions mixed with how they are applied paints a pretty clear picture for people that may not be familiar with the tech. Thank you for sharing
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The only thing I REALLY want to know before hitting add to cart is; How does it do with large panels like a car hood or bumper, obviously surface detail is of little concern to me, I am however worried about its general accuracy across a larger (1.5mx1.5m) part; any thoughts/ input on this would be hugely appreciated! Thanks from NZ!
It should do just fine as long as its not too reflective. if its very glossy I would use a scanner spray to make it temporary matte. The accuracy should be fine for that application.
Its not really intended for reverse engineering, but low precision reverse engineering applications are definitely feasible. It can export CAD supported formats.
Having played around with mine for a while now, I still can't figure out small object mode. It just doesn't seem to work all that well, though the medium/large mode still actually works fairly well when scanning smaller stuff. Just not sure what small mode actually does.
Hi, for scanning smaller objects, if the object size is smaller than 6 inches, besides using small mode, you will also need to use at least markers on the background. Sometimes you also need 2 or 3 marker helpers (sphere, triangle or square shape) nearby your small object in order to get a good result.
@@umax2639 I did make up a turntable setup with markers, which was great for tracking, but it just didn't seem to want to register the item I was looking at. Admittedly it was a bit of a satin black, so guessing that probably didn't help, but I'm more just curious what "small object mode" actually does. Like, does it change the light pattern that the LEDs output to a different pattern for being closer to an object? Does it zoom something? It seems to reduce the field of view quite a bit, but beyond that I seem to have more luck scanning small stuff in "medium/large mode", so not sure how the small mode is actually supposed to benefit anything.
What is the size of your object? Usually if it's under 8 inches, it should consider as small for Einstar. In small mode, the capture distance should be shorter. For dark object, most likely you will need to either adjust brightness to very high or spray the object to make it lighter in order to make a good scan. Sometimes we put a small object on a big object, and scan them together. Cut off the big unnecessary part when it's done. Or you can put a big object beside your small object to scan them together too.
@@umax2639 I think the color was probably my bigger issue. I haven't tried scanning many other things yet, this was just a little fidget thing I had on my desk that had enough features to be interesting (looks like a mini controller, maybe 2-2.5 inches long overall). I tried scanning it on medium size and actually got more details out of it than on small, but it was still having a hard time.
2 or 3 inches is a quite small object for Einstar. Naturally it's very hard to scan it by Einstar. You will need to use a trick like either putting it on a big scannable object to let them to be scanned together or putting it on a markers filled turntable. Depending on your total objects size (big item + small item), and you will probably should select Medium/large if their size is over 200mm X 200mm X 200mm. If you put it on a desk with markers around, you will count the whole area with markers plus your small object for total object size. Maybe that's why your scanning result is better with medium/large setting. And then you may adjust your scanning distance, brightness, room lighting or amount of markers for better result. Make sure you know that each single scan shot needs to see at least 4 markers all time; otherwise the scan result is not good. You may seek Shining3d tech support agent if you still have trouble..
It can't function like a lidar and is not intended to scan rooms or buildings. The revopoint mini isn't as good as the einstar in terms of usability and scan quality. It also lacks the inferred scanning capabilities. We are actually working on a dedicated comparison video on the einstar, and the revopoint mini.
@@umax2639 how you can say that ? Einstar can't scan volume of 0.76mm , there is nothing to compare really, Einstar accuracy is as low as Revopoint POP1 , there are some advantage Einstar have because of the better software , but you can't compare MINI quality scan to it as both of them are completely in a different category . Unless you going to show jewelry scanning in comparison what Einstar can't do , neither reverse engineering or scan a finger prints. So nothing here to compare as you going to compare apples to oranges in a biased video review directed to one side only . Not really professional of you.
@@PUTV3D I have spent time with both scanners, my opinion is based on the results from the hours spend using the products. Accuracy is not as important for the applications these scanners are marketed for, and have little to no effect on scan quality past a certain threshold. Both scanners are capable of scanning small volume, even with reflective materials objects with the proper setup. But when all is said and done the Einstar is simply more capable. Given they are in the same price point and many people want a comparison; I say its a fair one to make.
@@umax2639 you cant scan a volume of 0.76 mm with Einstar or a finger prints of 7 microns on a human hand , you saying MINI is below the quality of Einstar is false . Both scanners are good in own range , but are not comparable to each other , that is like comparing a microscope to a telescope . MINI range is between 10-20cm only with accuracy of 0.02mm, and if someone purchase a 3D scanner , the most important is the accuracy as nobody is interested in scanning blobs . It is all about the accuracy . And if you saying it is not important then it looks like you have no idea what you talking about what explains your ridiculous comparison . I guess all you compare is your scanning skills and how easy it is for you to work with, but that is not what people want to spend money on .
Mini, from what I understand, focus on small item scanning, not as easy as Einstar to scan medium or big size. Every product has its main targeted market, while lidar as you mentioned is for large scale scanning. We can't cover all functions or features on one scanner. so most important is asking ourselves what we need before selecting the scanner. While for the accuracy, I personally think it is not a simple parameter but a result based on serious measuring and testing. It is important, but not crucial to every application. It is always worth to invest on expensive scanners when accuracy is essential factor in your workflow. Suppliers who guarantee accuracy usually take their time to test and measure each scanner, and with more precise components to assure accuracy and its consistency.
Can someone please let me know if i can scan my car? I make prototype parts with clay and then use orthographic photos to build models. I need to be able to scan bumpers and body panels. Thanks.
I have spent a lot of time with both scanners, and i can confidently say that the Einstar is worth the extra bucks. The CR scan is a good choice too, but scans are simply of higher quality and are done much easier with the Einstar. But it also depends on what you are looking for. CR has fixed scanning which comes with turn table and tripod, on the other hand Einstar has outdoor scanning, marker tracking mode, and eye-safe inferred scanning.
@@umax2639 Thnk you for replying !! What do you mean by outdoor scanning ? Is there a way to scan with the Einstar using a external battery pack? I would like to scan textures from nature
Looking at possibly purchasing this scanner, would I be able to scan large objects like an engine bay or a bumper? would I be able to alight multiple scans to complete a scan of a bumper or engine bay scan?
The little thing is surprisingly competent with large scans, aligning multiple scans will likely be the easiest way to go about it. Make sure to use markers on flat areas devoid of features, you might need to get some extra markers it doesn't come with a ton of them, and don't max out the resolution setting to keep your filesize and processing time down. Definitely within its capabilities.
@@GabrielPaterson99 $4000 is sort of a awkward spot, the closest you are going to be looking at his Einstar's big brother the Einscan H at $4999(if you buy from UMAX we also offer free support and virtual training). Which is a good choice, its a nice scanner to work with, as its hybrid infrared and LED. Its mostly advertised for scanning humans, but shinning has some videos on their channel of automotive scanning done with it. I have also personally scanned a car bumper with it with great results. I would recommend checking it out!
@@kimjess4313 It does pretty well without markers, as long as your object is rich in geometric features. Large smooth/flat areas are going to need markers. With hybrid tracking you can just use the markers where they are needed and seamlessly scan feature rich areas without the markers. Larger objects within reason scan fine, I have scanned a entire car bumper with little trouble(outside portion with markers, inside without markers).
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Awesome review and video; clear, concise, and seemingly honest. Your explanation of the functions mixed with how they are applied paints a pretty clear picture for people that may not be familiar with the tech. Thank you for sharing
Great review. You hit all of the points I had questions about. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
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Compre con ustedes un Einstar y es una excelente compra. Estoy muy contento 👌
Glad you like it! Let us know if you have any questions or concerns.
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The only thing I REALLY want to know before hitting add to cart is; How does it do with large panels like a car hood or bumper, obviously surface detail is of little concern to me, I am however worried about its general accuracy across a larger (1.5mx1.5m) part; any thoughts/ input on this would be hugely appreciated! Thanks from NZ!
It should do just fine as long as its not too reflective. if its very glossy I would use a scanner spray to make it temporary matte. The accuracy should be fine for that application.
What use case do users have for scanning people? Genuinely intrigued, I have never come across an application
Scanning people can be used for 3D printing and digital display.
Thanks allot for the review. How would this scanner cope with reverse engineering or scanning items to design parts into, with CAD?
Its not really intended for reverse engineering, but low precision reverse engineering applications are definitely feasible. It can export CAD supported formats.
Having played around with mine for a while now, I still can't figure out small object mode. It just doesn't seem to work all that well, though the medium/large mode still actually works fairly well when scanning smaller stuff. Just not sure what small mode actually does.
Hi, for scanning smaller objects, if the object size is smaller than 6 inches, besides using small mode, you will also need to use at least markers on the background. Sometimes you also need 2 or 3 marker helpers (sphere, triangle or square shape) nearby your small object in order to get a good result.
@@umax2639 I did make up a turntable setup with markers, which was great for tracking, but it just didn't seem to want to register the item I was looking at. Admittedly it was a bit of a satin black, so guessing that probably didn't help, but I'm more just curious what "small object mode" actually does. Like, does it change the light pattern that the LEDs output to a different pattern for being closer to an object? Does it zoom something? It seems to reduce the field of view quite a bit, but beyond that I seem to have more luck scanning small stuff in "medium/large mode", so not sure how the small mode is actually supposed to benefit anything.
What is the size of your object? Usually if it's under 8 inches, it should consider as small for Einstar. In small mode, the capture distance should be shorter.
For dark object, most likely you will need to either adjust brightness to very high or spray the object to make it lighter in order to make a good scan.
Sometimes we put a small object on a big object, and scan them together. Cut off the big unnecessary part when it's done. Or you can put a big object beside your small object to scan them together too.
@@umax2639 I think the color was probably my bigger issue. I haven't tried scanning many other things yet, this was just a little fidget thing I had on my desk that had enough features to be interesting (looks like a mini controller, maybe 2-2.5 inches long overall). I tried scanning it on medium size and actually got more details out of it than on small, but it was still having a hard time.
2 or 3 inches is a quite small object for Einstar. Naturally it's very hard to scan it by Einstar. You will need to use a trick like either putting it on a big scannable object to let them to be scanned together or putting it on a markers filled turntable. Depending on your total objects size (big item + small item), and you will probably should select Medium/large if their size is over 200mm X 200mm X 200mm. If you put it on a desk with markers around, you will count the whole area with markers plus your small object for total object size. Maybe that's why your scanning result is better with medium/large setting. And then you may adjust your scanning distance, brightness, room lighting or amount of markers for better result. Make sure you know that each single scan shot needs to see at least 4 markers all time; otherwise the scan result is not good.
You may seek Shining3d tech support agent if you still have trouble..
Is there a way to scan with the Einstar using a external battery pack? I would like to scan textures from nature
Yes there is! We actually sell an official power pack.
I have an Einscan HX in work but this is still tempting as a home scanner.
How does this compare to revopoint mini? Can it function like lidar to scan a room? Thanks
It can't function like a lidar and is not intended to scan rooms or buildings. The revopoint mini isn't as good as the einstar in terms of usability and scan quality. It also lacks the inferred scanning capabilities. We are actually working on a dedicated comparison video on the einstar, and the revopoint mini.
@@umax2639 how you can say that ? Einstar can't scan volume of 0.76mm , there is nothing to compare really, Einstar accuracy is as low as Revopoint POP1 , there are some advantage Einstar have because of the better software , but you can't compare MINI quality scan to it as both of them are completely in a different category . Unless you going to show jewelry scanning in comparison what Einstar can't do , neither reverse engineering or scan a finger prints. So nothing here to compare as you going to compare apples to oranges in a biased video review directed to one side only . Not really professional of you.
@@PUTV3D I have spent time with both scanners, my opinion is based on the results from the hours spend using the products. Accuracy is not as important for the applications these scanners are marketed for, and have little to no effect on scan quality past a certain threshold. Both scanners are capable of scanning small volume, even with reflective materials objects with the proper setup. But when all is said and done the Einstar is simply more capable. Given they are in the same price point and many people want a comparison; I say its a fair one to make.
@@umax2639 you cant scan a volume of 0.76 mm with Einstar or a finger prints of 7 microns on a human hand , you saying MINI is below the quality of Einstar is false . Both scanners are good in own range , but are not comparable to each other , that is like comparing a microscope to a telescope . MINI range is between 10-20cm only with accuracy of 0.02mm, and if someone purchase a 3D scanner , the most important is the accuracy as nobody is interested in scanning blobs . It is all about the accuracy . And if you saying it is not important then it looks like you have no idea what you talking about what explains your ridiculous comparison . I guess all you compare is your scanning skills and how easy it is for you to work with, but that is not what people want to spend money on .
Mini, from what I understand, focus on small item scanning, not as easy as Einstar to scan medium or big size. Every product has its main targeted market, while lidar as you mentioned is for large scale scanning. We can't cover all functions or features on one scanner. so most important is asking ourselves what we need before selecting the scanner. While for the accuracy, I personally think it is not a simple parameter but a result based on serious measuring and testing. It is important, but not crucial to every application. It is always worth to invest on expensive scanners when accuracy is essential factor in your workflow. Suppliers who guarantee accuracy usually take their time to test and measure each scanner, and with more precise components to assure accuracy and its consistency.
Shinning 3d released software for MAC support. Does this model work in m2 MACs?
Currently only EinScan SE v2 and SP v2 can be supported by Mac OS.
Wish in the near future Einstar will have Mac support too.
Can someone please let me know if i can scan my car? I make prototype parts with clay and then use orthographic photos to build models.
I need to be able to scan bumpers and body panels.
Thanks.
Einstar is an entry level scanner. You can't use it for scanning a whole car. You will need at least Einscan HX model.
Umax, I am deciding between the 2x and the einstar. I understand the 2x is faster, but are the results about the same?
Einscan Pro 2x actually can get scanned data with higher density so no doubt it gets higher quality data than Einstar.
@@umax2639 ya I got to test both. I wish I had the cash for the 2x 2020. The einstar required more time and memory than the 2x.
@UMAX Is it worth spending a little to get the Einstar over the Creality CR-01?
I have spent a lot of time with both scanners, and i can confidently say that the Einstar is worth the extra bucks. The CR scan is a good choice too, but scans are simply of higher quality and are done much easier with the Einstar. But it also depends on what you are looking for. CR has fixed scanning which comes with turn table and tripod, on the other hand Einstar has outdoor scanning, marker tracking mode, and eye-safe inferred scanning.
@@umax2639 Thnk you for replying !! What do you mean by outdoor scanning ?
Is there a way to scan with the Einstar using a external battery pack? I would like to scan textures from nature
what laptop was used in the video when the guy was scanned ???
Our demo computer is Lenovo ThinkPad P73 with upgraded 64 gb memory
Thanks
Looking at possibly purchasing this scanner, would I be able to scan large objects like an engine bay or a bumper? would I be able to alight multiple scans to complete a scan of a bumper or engine bay scan?
The little thing is surprisingly competent with large scans, aligning multiple scans will likely be the easiest way to go about it. Make sure to use markers on flat areas devoid of features, you might need to get some extra markers it doesn't come with a ton of them, and don't max out the resolution setting to keep your filesize and processing time down. Definitely within its capabilities.
@@umax2639 Thanks a lot for the feedback! What scanner would you recomend for higher quality scanning, $4000 price range ?
@@GabrielPaterson99 $4000 is sort of a awkward spot, the closest you are going to be looking at his Einstar's big brother the Einscan H at $4999(if you buy from UMAX we also offer free support and virtual training). Which is a good choice, its a nice scanner to work with, as its hybrid infrared and LED. Its mostly advertised for scanning humans, but shinning has some videos on their channel of automotive scanning done with it. I have also personally scanned a car bumper with it with great results. I would recommend checking it out!
@@umax2639 Have you tried scanning large objects in feature mode? I would like to know how well it does without markers in general
@@kimjess4313 It does pretty well without markers, as long as your object is rich in geometric features. Large smooth/flat areas are going to need markers. With hybrid tracking you can just use the markers where they are needed and seamlessly scan feature rich areas without the markers. Larger objects within reason scan fine, I have scanned a entire car bumper with little trouble(outside portion with markers, inside without markers).
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