I’m a yt shorts editor and I actually agree with this the yt shorts tier system is too linear and I try to analyze on a more individual scale per character.
I lost brain cells at a Cal Kestis vs Dooku short when they literally gave Cal the advantage in IQ and in some categories. Even in Disney Canon dumbing down and watering down most of the Jedi and Sith, Dooku is literally one of the strongest force wielders. I like Cal but these shorts are a blight upon YT community.
In the potential case of a Q@A I present some questions here 1: Call me an old man but I remember hearing the discussion of Krayt beating Sidious way back when during the Council Forcecast podcast episode titled “Darth Sidious is not invincible” How has your opinion of these two Sith evolved since that first discussion 2: What is your process for formatting your video scripts and what is your process for researching the powers of each character? 3: Looking back on all of Versus Series Season 7 as a whole. What matchup would you say you are most proud of and what character breakdown are you most proud of? (both can be separate) 4: What wisdom would you provide to any fledgling Versus Series creators who want to follow in your footsteps in making these videos? Thank you for all of the wonderful videos all these years Evan, I wish you the best in life and I can’t wait to see what comes next.
Q&A Questions- 1. What is your general opinion on Darth Sidious as a character? 2. Since Jensaarai 1 made a dedicated profile video on Sidious’ martial techniques, have you considered making one on Grand Master Luke Skywalker? 3. Who is your favorite practitioner (confirmed or implied) of Form VI Niman?
1) A fountain of memes. Very entertaining. 2) No? 3) Probably Exar Kun due to his innovations. One of a kind weapon and trakata really makes him a high risk high reward trickster.
1. If he was part of a lantern corps , he'd be an orange lantern. 2. An opposite of sidious, GM Luke Skywalker didn't fall behind his lightsaber skills and continued to improve on them alongside his power in the force. 3. Kao cen darach.
imagine both empires clash (Ge vs 1 sith leigon) I guarantee that the 1 sith would steamroll with thousands of darksiders force crushing and riping storm troopers to shreds at extreme speed and Darth Wyyrlok illusions would make the empire destroy itself fast. Darth Vader might get a few dozen sith killed them he'd be immobilized by 1000 force chokes all together.
@@abstraction6212 I think since Vader is extremely smart he might be able to beat warlock extremely high diff( looking like Vader v momin) but he ain't touching Krayt
@@Badblood226 as for everything else? we've seen how Jedi wipe out armies in micro series tcw, storm troopers and imperial forces have the worst survivability rates as fodder characters like dash rendar, mercenary Kyle Katarn and ewoks outsmarted and destroyed imperial forces like nothing, Starkiller a mid tier dark Jedi and Padawan level Kyle Katarn cleave through like nothing. And your dealing with the 1 sith the only sith order in existence to defeat Abeloth and Luke's NJO after his death putting them leagues beyond Khan's brotherhood or any other sith order in galactic history. They will just choke grind and electrocute imperial forces like nothing. Even a low powered force lightning one shots AT-AT Darth Trooper Phase 3 and star destroyer executor, and the force illusion mind r### the entire empire into insanity infighting or suicide will just make the war easier for the one sith.
Just as another point to Sidious' physical strength, one kick to Savage Oppress was enough to stun Oppress, whereas Obi-Wan in his physical prime needed several kicks just to stagger Oppress.
I don't think that's purely strength. Yes, better technique executed at quick speed leads to much more force, but it is about where you strike. I don't remember how and where Sidious land his kick, but I remember the one Kenobi did. He kicks on Savage's knee from outside in, making his knee cave in and he lost balance, which Kenobi then dashed out and cut forearm. In Muay Thai and Karate (one I learnt), that strike can literally get your knee joint dislocated and even worse, your ligaments ruptured. The previous strikes may not have stroke Savage's knee at the right angle, or he just kicks to build up that torque for the decisive one. Personally, I lean to the former, Kenobi kicks, but first he does not land a powerful stomp like the one you mentioned, and second he hits more directly on Savage's knee cap, not hitting his side.
@@quangtrungbui675If you literally admit you don't even recall the feat being mentioned, why are you talking about like as if you know what you are talking about?
@@papapalps2415 because I only explain the information I'm sure I know what I'm talking and leave the other for someone else. And since I'm also into fist-fighting, I know what I'm getting into and also where I should stop. And I said I did not remember how and where Sidious kicks Savage at the comment's time, not I did not recall it being mentioned. But I remember Kenobi's, so yea, I only described his.
Saying Krayt has better lightning just because Luke elected to dodge a possible lightning attack from him is a bit of a stretch considering the monolithic laundry list of feats attributed to how powerful Sidious' lightning is in comparison to his own. Flash-frying targets to skeletons, having to attain a level of mastery of the power as a prerequisite to learning how to conjure a Force Storm-it'd be more likely that Krayt is comparable to Palpatine in this regard, but putting it above Palpatine's on the basis of Luke wanting to dodge a *possible* lightning attack headed his way from Krayt...that's a bit much.
Wait did he say that? I thought he said the difference between krayt and sidious lightning wasn’t as large as people may think meaning he stil has palps above Tbf Luke not wanting to get hit by an attack and moving is still crazy if it’s used as proof like mmost people tend to avoid things being aimed at them
I think the difference comes in when comparing when he dodged the lightning attack; Jedi Knight Luke who actually begins to be as and even start to surpass his father while Grand Master Luke has surpassed his father and is the strongest Jedi.
Well krayt does have lightning feats he slaughtered an entire ship full of force resistant one with nothing but lightning as well as roasting a large group of rakghouls with one blast and there was probably close to two dozen of them just scorched out of existence. Also let’s not forget he had some much control over lightning that he he engulf people without even shocking them that’s a degree of control sidious never exhibited.
@AndreVeaseyJr the luke Skywalker papaltine faced was already stronger than vader as the return of the jedi novel said vader and luke are both equal dark empire luke Skywalker got alot stronger
I'd also love to see a round 2 with the Entire galactic empire vs the entire rule of one sith, And I gotta tell ya the one sith having been scaled equal to Luke's NJO especially after Abeloth, Krayts army has a collosal god stomp
This was so good man. I’ve been watching you since Primary School, and not only is it insane that you’re still going It’s insane that your content has gotten so much better, it’s honestly so cool to see. Thank you for all the memories man, I still remember first seeing the Galen Marek vs Ashoka video which introduced me to you. ^-^
@@Wes_Bradley-Taubner And also the fact that he's extremaly overrated by a large portion of the fans, although i tend to belive that old republic era characters tend to be really overrated by the fandome .
Your versus videos are the best in all the social media! Not only do you do deep research for the characters, but you also choose very wisely! Sometimes I might not agree with the winner, but opinions differ. Congratulations for choosing 2 awesome villains, greetings from Greece!
never stop making videos Evan! your our hero! You and Connor are our old Ben and Yoda, the last in your generation of Versus Battlers that set the standard!
Q&A: 1.) would you do a revised Sidious vs Vitiate video? We’ve learned so much more about Vitiate since you did your original one and I think your view of Sidious has evolved a great deal. 2.) how would you feel about a Caedus vs Krayt match up? I think they match each other very well. 3.) do you think sidious could’ve matched Krayt’s feats against Abeloth? 4.) do you think that the claims stating “____ is the most powerful Sith Lord” hold any validity? They throw claims like that around non stop. It does a disservice to rely too heavily on them. People think that just because one is further down the Rule of Two line they’re automatically more powerful than earlier ones which is illogical for multiple reasons, one being that later Sith used treachery more often than an actual duel which is what Bane intended, thereby negating one’s inferiority and skirting direct power leveling. Thanks for the video it was absolutely fantastic. I disagree with a couple of the points but overall you make a very compelling argument for Krayt.
Q and A In your opinion who win between Darth Kraty and Darth Cadeus? Two if instead of a fight what do you think Darth Kraty and Darth Cadeus would think of each other and their plans if they had a actual conversation with each other. Finally, three do you think Darth Kraty waited hundreds of years after Luke died or began his plans? I don't think Kraty was necessarily scared of Luke or his order but was generally wary of him and knew Luke order was still in its prime with powerful memories like Kyle Katarn and Jaina solo. I don't think it makes Kraty a coward, and if anything was a good intelligent feat to wait,for the biggest threat to his plans to die of old age then strike when the time was right with his forces. What do you think?
@@TinyToraha better idea a rematch with sidious and Krayt but this time it's the one sith vs the entire galactic empire (including the Inquisitors, lumaya and starkiller) And safe to say the One Sith Being on Luke's NJO level would curbstomp the empire effortlessly force waving and destroying a whole bunch of Storm troopers and ATATs and Star destroyers as possible. Vader might get a few dozen of Krayts sith killed but then Hell be embolized by 1000+ force chokes all together. then Krayt uses Darth Transfer then Krayt kills sidious then the remaining empire along with Krayts ROO will bow down to the true emperor.
I’ve been a fan over several years and I’m very happy about this vid it’s good to have you back Evannova95! Also I love this match up it’s my two favorite darksiders besides Malgus and Vader.
W video. Idk if i completely agree with the outcome but amazing analysis. As for ideas I mentioned it once but Darth Thanaton vs Inquisitor Jerec just sits right with me for some reason. Glad to see this finally released. Amazing work :)
An interesting matchup: Clash of the Dark Side Scholars. Even though both combatants were primarily Force duelists, Jerec gets the martial edge, though I doubt a fight between these two would be a lightsaber battle. In regards to raw Force power level, I’d say they’re comparable in strength. Ultimately, I think that Thanaton would ultimately win. His Force shields allows him to defend himself against Jerec’s Force Destruction and Thanaton’s lightning is more developed and stronger. As the head of the Sphere of Ancient Knowledge, Thanaton likely familiarized himself with mental techniques to defend against Jerec’s Force Suppression ability, thus keeping his basis covered.
Fun idea, both dark side scholars with force abilities being the deciding factor. In terms of power, Id give an edge to Thanaton. Jerec is comp to Dooku, Thanatos to Malgus. But Jerec is still powerful enough to contend quite well. But consume essence can make up the power difference if Thanatos does full dark side channeling. Jerec has outs to everything Thanaton throws at him. advanced sense abilities + battlemind handles telepathy, tutaminis handles lightning, solid tk barriers for tk. And then Jerec busts out force destruction which Thanatos has no idea how to deal with. His active force shield could guard against it, but im unsure how Thanaton would predict to that in the first place. Add on top of jerec's advantage as a swordsman, and I think Jerec has the odds to pull a win.
The Strongest Sith in History versus The Dragon of the Sith (that title goes so hard) Palpatine: "If he got rid of his Yuuzhan Vong armor and regained all of his power, it would be a bit difficult" "Would you lose?" Palpatine: "Nah, I'd win" He would, in fact, not win 💀
It was such an epic scal annalyse! I was entrance by your video nearly from begining through the end. In my opinion, you done an amazing job! It's a masterpiece !
What a pleasant surprise. Haven't watched since I made a new TH-cam. Last video I watched was you talking about Kol Skywalker. Good times. Glad I found the channel again
Funny thing is… I LITERALLY just thought of a matchup between these two literally YESTERDAY!!!!!! Haven’t even watched the video yet but had to say this
I do recall making this suggestion years ago. Though I know it wasn't just a request on my end, I'm so glad I finally got to see the match up I've been wanting for such a long time. Thanks again for this, Evan. I cant imagine the massive undertaking it took to make thisbpossible. Nevertheless, every second of it was amazing. Can't wait to see your future projects. Stay safe and May the Force be with you.
Good video but I disagree with the conclusion; Sidious gave too little praise and Krayt too much. Scaling to Luke isn’t really viable because they never fought, not at all, Luke considered dodging his lightning because both of them were definitely exhausted from fighting a god-tier entity. The throne of balance is just another chosen-one-esque style thing, where instead of Anakin being the one to stop Sidious, it’s Luke stopping Krayt. Doesn’t mean they are equal in power. Sidious buries an entire SSD with the force, mind wipes thousands of people, weakens DE Luke with mental attacks alone. How is this not mentioned more, clearly Sidious has the TK advantage, and he could probably affect Krayt to SOME degree with his mental abilities. Sure DE luke outdueled Sidious, but as we know Sidious losing the saber combat doesn’t mean he’s lost the fight, he bested Yoda with the force and most likely could have overwhelmed Mace. He almost BENT the saber back into Mace’s body, stopped, pretended to be weak and then OBLITERATED Mace with the lightning right after. Palpatine takes the edge in lightning for sure, regardless of how many of Krayt’s minions have X feats with lightning; none of them can compare to this really. Krayt’s dueling feats are overhyped, he never fought anyone of Yoda or Mace’s caliber, true Sidious may have lost to them, but he still damn well. DE Sidious is not ROTS sidious, but he’s surely improved his skills in the force and lightsaber combat; Vader never dared to challenge his master for a reason - even if OT Sidious hardly has any saber feats. So pre-prime Sidious is able to compete with Mace and Yoda, completely destroying Talzin in a saber duel when she was shown being able to hold off Mace briefly, but loses martial skill to Krayt? When Krayt has NO showings besides destroying multiple council members - who don’t have many feats themselves. Even if Palpatine “stunned” some of the council members they still got dispatched quickly, with Yoda and Mace being the only real matchups. The force storm not being utilized in direct combat makes sense, but also doesn’t. Yes, Sheev got cut off from the storm, so it destroyed him. But if he wasn't cut off it would have never destroyed him, we see him make multiple, with one of them TELEPORTING organic matter from one side of the galaxy to the next. Realistically if hes able to pop even a lesser one off as a ditch attempt; Krayt is obliterated. Extra: Sidious isn’t that physically weak, he takes a kick from Savage, who is a literal tank shown to body Dooku around multiple times. Extra PT 2: bold of you to assume Krayt would even get close enough to Sidious to utilize dark transfer, and it requires a lot of power. I feel that overall while Krayt is an excellent duelist, Sidious is simply better due to who he’s fought - he’s also not that physically superior to Sidious overwhelmingly - Sidious is definitely faster (once again due to who he has fought). Krayt is inferior in the force in RAW Power, and overall mastery. Sidious has too many feats to lose in a fight, even if he may fail to have a higher mastery at dueling, he cooks Krayt with the force in the end.
Here are my questions for if you do a Q&A for this: 1. Would you ever consider doing a verses with Ben Skywalker? Out of all the Skywalker descendants, he's is the least explored when it comes to fighting skills 2. Would you ever consider doing a video about how Disney broke the Force? I'm not sure if such a video topic is your style or not, but its something to consider. 3. What are your thoughts on the fan theory that Galen Marek and the Starkiller Clone are one in the same? As in Galen survived and was simply tricked into thinking he was clone.
@@yrooxrksvi7142honestly, Sabine was a much better character when she was just a regular mandalorian. They completely ruined and butchered her, and this retcon makes no sense because it also destroys Rebels as a show because why didn’t kanan sense her force sensitivity when he was able to sense Ezra and even fucking Vader. But then again, this is Disney. Of course they don’t have to make sense They should’ve instead built up on the first mandalorian Jedi wielding the dark saber and have some distant descendant mandalorian finding his or her way in the galaxy after the Empire.
Hett is one of my favourite characters of all Star Wars, though, not as his sith version, but as a Tusken/Jedi, a completely unique individual in the galaxy, having survived order 66 and returned to his old home with the people he cared for and pretty much turned himself into a freedom figther for Tattoine. He was so cool. Also, Obiwan really has to stop cutting the limbs of his opponents and leaving them to die, Which is even more cruel than finishing them.
Oh dayum i’ve waited 10 years for this! And it will have to wait until tomorrow as 2+ hrs is one hell of a demand😂😂 looking forward though, thankyou Evan
oh shoot ive been looking forward to this i always listen to your stuff at night when im trying to sleep helps quiet the adhd racing mind this is going to be legend tier
Q&A Questions: 1. Would you be interested in doing these following match ups? Darth Sidious vs Vitiate (Sith Emperors) Cin Drallig and Serra Keto vs Kao Cen Darach and Satele Shan (Battle Masters and acrobatic students) Darth Vader vs Revan (Former Jedi turned Sith) Mara Jade vs Galen Marek (Trained by the Sith) 2. Who do you think is the most underrated Jedi and Sith in your opinion? 3. Is it possible to do match ups of two characters who are the same but different versions of themselves (example: Anakin Skywalker vs Darth Vader)?
Absolute mastercraft of a video and in my opinion the best verses video I've ever seen on youtube period. Hoping we get Darth Krayt vs Valkorion/ vitiate next
Holy Crap, now that's a match up of the century. Easily my most anticipated Star Wars Versus matchup since Antoine's Yoda vs Luke Skywalker. Q&A Question- I only now wonder how either combatant could deal with someone like Darth Caedus ? My versus idea for next season would be Satele Shan vs Revan (great granddaughter vs grandfather ) Mara Jade Skywalker Vs Galen Marek ( Sith Assassins for general combat) Shaak Tii vs Darth Malak (Form 2&4 masters)
Excellent analysis. Q&A: 1. In your vid discussing Sith Lords that didn’t use red lightsabers, jensaarai bought up a theory of the trophy blades used by Sidious in Dark Empire that they’re the blades of Agen Kolar, Saesee Tiin, and Kit Fisto. Do you believe that theory is true or no? 2. A Star Wars character I feel is very underrepresented in the versus community is Darth Traya. What are your thoughts on Darth Traya as a character? If you ever decided to feature her in a match, who would you put her up against? 3. This is in reference to your Ahsoka vs Galen Marek vid from a while ago. Would you say your opinion on the outcome of that match has changed over years given how much development Ahsoka has had (Tales of the Jedi, Clone Wars Season 7, Rebels, and Ahsoka Season 1)?
Almost all of Ahsoka’s development and appearances that you are thinking of are Disney canon only and he use’s legends. Thus it would not apply to legends as it never happened in this continuity.
@@flipout216also even then if we use legends cosmology for canon, Ahsoka still isn’t strong enough. She lasts longer against marek but still gets hammered to oblivion because of his massive advantage as a force wielder. The new stuff only gave her minor improvements, such as being more niman oriented than Ataru, active force shields and a level of ability with tutaminis though not on the level of lightning. Marek still holds the advantage in all areas. He does everything she does, and then a bunch more
41:09 Again Vastor does not scale to ROTS Anakin. The Anakin in that novel is literally ATOC anakin who gets utterly obliterated by his rots counterpart. That is like scaling a literal child to a full grown adult numerous sources state Anakin's ATOC power was vastly surpassed by Anakin a few months into the war to the point he is basically a completely different person. Kar Vastor does not scale to rots Anakin the difference is so vast its ridiculous
Shimrra wasn't stated to be more skilled than Palpatine, he was stated to be an unknown to Luke when they fought wheras Sidious at least was a somewhat-familiar face to be fighting. The source you pulled from explicitly states that Palpatine was a familiar enemy due to images of him reaching Tatooine. Not surprising given that the man was essentially running the whole galaxy and making orations on the weekly.
Then, I’d put my credits on Bane. He may be roughly a decade older than Malak, he’s easily physically stronger and tougher and can match his speed and reflexes. Malak’s one-handed Juyo leaves him vulnerable to counterattacks, something Bane’s Forms V and III could capitalize on. Bane’s TK and Force lightning are far more devastating and if Malak attempts to use Force stun, Bane can muscle through it
I personally would give it to Darth Krayt, he rivaled Luke at a Point where he was much more experienced than during DE when beating prime Sidious. It only make sense that Krayt should outscale Sidious. Time to Watch the Video. Keep up the Great work and May the Force be with you !
Where did he ever rival Luke? They never fought, were never scaled and never was it even implied that they were equals in power or combat. Fighting a severely weakened celestial together does not mean that they are equals.
@@DropkickNation it has been stated clearly that they were equals at that point. Luke Even feared Krayt. Krayt is at least on Par if Not a league above luke.
Damn, I felt the disturbance in the force - but this is a legendary present after a day in the office. I mean what can even top this match up? A three-way battle between those to plus Vitiate? Amazing as always, man!
I think it is a really good matchup with really good execution. It does annoy me though because in my opinion Sidious is the ultimate enemy and it just ended up fueling power creep in Star Wars. It also annoys me that the only way he is stronger is by the lake of apparitions fight. I do think there are some things that should be mentioned though. One of the reasons they were able to defeat Abeloth was by using a combined power of both the light and the dark side energy. Krayt also kinda stood back at least initially and let Luke do a lot of the fighting. They were not putting in equal effort. I also think that it is possible that Sidious would be able to compensate instead of krayt. I don’t think it would change the outcome but I do think Sidious should have one the force power catigory. It might not win him the match but I do think that Krayt wins force powers on a little sketchy logic. This might be my own bias but I think that Sidious’s feet’s are more consistent. I do agree with his lightsaber ability and physical attributes. I think those parts were done really well. I would be really interested in the fight Darth Krayt vs. Darth Cidous though I think that match has a lot of potential.
It's not a bias, a huge fan of Legacy here and I agree 100% with that. Imho his take on Krayt from the older "Bane vs Krayt" video is fare more accurate.
@@ChristopherL-nw8wr Of course, he is above Bane and after rebirth surely closer to Sidious in power, but that video didn't overestimate him like this one. He rightfully wins that matchup of course.
Great vid man. Looking at the Palpatine clones, them being unstable made me think Palpatine should have gotten nano droids and programmed them to reinforce and stabilize the body, perhaps even create artificial midichlorians to enhance his clone’s power over the force. Same thing goes for Krayt. If he had those nano droids and a tank of bacta, he might have achieved restoration and resistance to degradation, making him capable of diving deeper in the darkside, as well as sidious, with less damage to themselves.
At long last, Sidious has met his match. Excellent work, even if the length is a bit much for even a versus video (was still definitely worth the wait)! On a slightly unrelated note, have you ever considered doing the occasional crossover versus? I understand that a TON more research would be required for something like that, but perhaps that could be counteracted by utilizing the character from another IP in a mini-marathon akin to what you did with Darth Malgus this season? Example: Isabelle Arrington from SapphireFoxx Isabelle Arrington vs. Dark Empire Luke Skywalker Isabelle Arrington vs Adult Ahsoka Tano Isabelle Arrington vs. Anakin Solo
@@user-lp8im7ow8s Isabelle Arrington is a powerful sorceress and one of the main characters of the Main SapphireFoxx Universe/Canon SapphireFoxx timeline. In terms of power, she has some major feats under her belt even prior to her prime, partially thanks to her training under Alistair. In terms of telepathy, Isabelle has used using Mass Memory Alter on over 2,000 people across the globe simultaneously. As for telekinesis, she has been seen levitating a 747 jumbo jet, as well as morphing chunks of asphalt pavement into a pair of floating hands, both more impressive than anything Dark Empire Luke has achieved in this field. That's not to mention Isabelle's insane teleportation capabilities, being part of the Sapphire bloodline.
Firstly love your stuff Evan been watching you for years keep up the good work Secondly how dare you make a 2 1/2 hour video making me drop everything I’m doing to watch this amazing video and reminding me on why Krayt is my favorite emperor lol
Alright Evan, here I have some questions for the follow-up video. 1. Do you plan to make Versus Series of other franchises you love outside Star Wars in a near future? Example: Naruto or Avatar TLA/LOK or Dragon Ball. 2. Do you believe that Luke underestimated Krayt after the Abeloth fight, especially for delivering him that warning? 3. Is there a possiblity that you would do a Versus Series involving non-force sensitive characters or bounty hunters in general in the near future? Ex: Grievous vs. Boba Fett (Legends for both) or Shae Vizla vs. Bo Katan. 4. If Sidious did hypothetically manage to be in the period of the Abeloth Event, would he be able to accomplish Krayt's feats or not? 5. Would you do a powerscaling for the One-Sith Order?
The virgin TH-cam shorts power scaling vs the chad feature film length hypothetical matchup discussion
I’m a yt shorts editor and I actually agree with this the yt shorts tier system is too linear and I try to analyze on a more individual scale per character.
I lost brain cells at a Cal Kestis vs Dooku short when they literally gave Cal the advantage in IQ and in some categories. Even in Disney Canon dumbing down and watering down most of the Jedi and Sith, Dooku is literally one of the strongest force wielders. I like Cal but these shorts are a blight upon YT community.
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I can't stand those smfh. So lazy
Fair I just like editing them and yeah they are to linear but it’s hard to put all of that in a minute
What the fuck! Some of my favorite Sith Lords in a 2 hour matchup? My god this must be a gift from the force itself.
You said it, man.😅😊
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This is probably the first time Palpatine actually lost to another Sith Lord. Does this mean Krayt is now The most powerful Sith lord?
@@Tarnthewarrior It’s either Krayt or Vitiate
@@gameovervirus2384Darish Vol and Caedus are up there too
I was literally going to recommend doing Sidious vs Krayt vs Vitiate. Either way, Insane work man I’m going to enjoy this. ❤
In the potential case of a Q@A I present some questions here
1: Call me an old man but I remember hearing the discussion of Krayt beating Sidious way back when during the Council Forcecast podcast episode titled “Darth Sidious is not invincible” How has your opinion of these two Sith evolved since that first discussion
2: What is your process for formatting your video scripts and what is your process for researching the powers of each character?
3: Looking back on all of Versus Series Season 7 as a whole. What matchup would you say you are most proud of and what character breakdown are you most proud of? (both can be separate)
4: What wisdom would you provide to any fledgling Versus Series creators who want to follow in your footsteps in making these videos?
Thank you for all of the wonderful videos all these years Evan, I wish you the best in life and I can’t wait to see what comes next.
Shadow dropped one of the most wanted matchups ever?
A surprise, to be sure…but a welcome one.
Q&A Questions-
1. What is your general opinion on Darth Sidious as a character?
2. Since Jensaarai 1 made a dedicated profile video on Sidious’ martial techniques, have you considered making one on Grand Master Luke Skywalker?
3. Who is your favorite practitioner (confirmed or implied) of Form VI Niman?
1. Star Wars greatest villain
2. No
3. Exar Kunn
1. A villain you love to hate
2. No. He's so broken that Reborn Krayt is the only character that would be able to stand against him.
3. Revan
1) A fountain of memes. Very entertaining.
2) No?
3) Probably Exar Kun due to his innovations. One of a kind weapon and trakata really makes him a high risk high reward trickster.
1. If he was part of a lantern corps , he'd be an orange lantern.
2. An opposite of sidious, GM Luke Skywalker didn't fall behind his lightsaber skills and continued to improve on them alongside his power in the force.
3. Kao cen darach.
To quote The Count himself, "I've been looking forward to this".
Gosh I remember watching these like a decade ago. Happy to discover you’re still posting 👍
He and Jensaarai have never stopped
The Emperor of the Galactic Empire vs the leader of the One Sith. This would be one hell of an interesting match up.
imagine both empires clash (Ge vs 1 sith leigon) I guarantee that the 1 sith would steamroll with thousands of darksiders force crushing and riping storm troopers to shreds at extreme speed and Darth Wyyrlok illusions would make the empire destroy itself fast. Darth Vader might get a few dozen sith killed them he'd be immobilized by 1000 force chokes all together.
@@abstraction6212 I think since Vader is extremely smart he might be able to beat warlock extremely high diff( looking like Vader v momin) but he ain't touching Krayt
@@Badblood226 as for everything else? we've seen how Jedi wipe out armies in micro series tcw, storm troopers and imperial forces have the worst survivability rates as fodder characters like dash rendar, mercenary Kyle Katarn and ewoks outsmarted and destroyed imperial forces like nothing, Starkiller a mid tier dark Jedi and Padawan level Kyle Katarn cleave through like nothing. And your dealing with the 1 sith the only sith order in existence to defeat Abeloth and Luke's NJO after his death putting them leagues beyond Khan's brotherhood or any other sith order in galactic history. They will just choke grind and electrocute imperial forces like nothing. Even a low powered force lightning one shots AT-AT Darth Trooper Phase 3 and star destroyer executor, and the force illusion mind r### the entire empire into insanity infighting or suicide will just make the war easier for the one sith.
Just as another point to Sidious' physical strength, one kick to Savage Oppress was enough to stun Oppress, whereas Obi-Wan in his physical prime needed several kicks just to stagger Oppress.
I don't think that's purely strength. Yes, better technique executed at quick speed leads to much more force, but it is about where you strike. I don't remember how and where Sidious land his kick, but I remember the one Kenobi did. He kicks on Savage's knee from outside in, making his knee cave in and he lost balance, which Kenobi then dashed out and cut forearm. In Muay Thai and Karate (one I learnt), that strike can literally get your knee joint dislocated and even worse, your ligaments ruptured. The previous strikes may not have stroke Savage's knee at the right angle, or he just kicks to build up that torque for the decisive one. Personally, I lean to the former, Kenobi kicks, but first he does not land a powerful stomp like the one you mentioned, and second he hits more directly on Savage's knee cap, not hitting his side.
Never underestimate force speed, or just dark side empowerment in general lol.
@@quangtrungbui675If you literally admit you don't even recall the feat being mentioned, why are you talking about like as if you know what you are talking about?
@@papapalps2415 because I only explain the information I'm sure I know what I'm talking and leave the other for someone else. And since I'm also into fist-fighting, I know what I'm getting into and also where I should stop. And I said I did not remember how and where Sidious kicks Savage at the comment's time, not I did not recall it being mentioned. But I remember Kenobi's, so yea, I only described his.
Saying Krayt has better lightning just because Luke elected to dodge a possible lightning attack from him is a bit of a stretch considering the monolithic laundry list of feats attributed to how powerful Sidious' lightning is in comparison to his own. Flash-frying targets to skeletons, having to attain a level of mastery of the power as a prerequisite to learning how to conjure a Force Storm-it'd be more likely that Krayt is comparable to Palpatine in this regard, but putting it above Palpatine's on the basis of Luke wanting to dodge a *possible* lightning attack headed his way from Krayt...that's a bit much.
Wait did he say that? I thought he said the difference between krayt and sidious lightning wasn’t as large as people may think meaning he stil has palps above
Tbf Luke not wanting to get hit by an attack and moving is still crazy if it’s used as proof like mmost people tend to avoid things being aimed at them
it’s around 2:05:00
I think the difference comes in when comparing when he dodged the lightning attack; Jedi Knight Luke who actually begins to be as and even start to surpass his father while Grand Master Luke has surpassed his father and is the strongest Jedi.
Well krayt does have lightning feats he slaughtered an entire ship full of force resistant one with nothing but lightning as well as roasting a large group of rakghouls with one blast and there was probably close to two dozen of them just scorched out of existence. Also let’s not forget he had some much control over lightning that he he engulf people without even shocking them that’s a degree of control sidious never exhibited.
@AndreVeaseyJr the luke Skywalker papaltine faced was already stronger than vader as the return of the jedi novel said vader and luke are both equal dark empire luke Skywalker got alot stronger
The best Star Wars Versus series of all time and the best star wars EU content ever made! Keep up the amazing work!🙌🙌
_The Ultimate Mastermind vs. The Ultimate Survivor..._
Finally, someone pays *Darth Krayt* attention, justice, and proper respect!
yup and I love the fact that this 2 hour video declared Krayt the winner.
Sidious imo is overrated and overexposed alot.
I'd also love to see a round 2 with the Entire galactic empire vs the entire rule of one sith, And I gotta tell ya the one sith having been scaled equal to Luke's NJO especially after Abeloth, Krayts army has a collosal god stomp
Nailed it my man. Krayt is a completely different level of beast. Would love to see how you pair him with revan
First. A battle of Sith Lords. Nice to see Darth Krayt makes his return.
FUUUUUUUCKKKK YESSSSSSSS. from 7th grade to my third year of college, thanks Evan!
Been watching for about just as long! Good stuff.
"A surprise to but sure but a welcome one."- Chancellor Palpatine
Well done fucking that up
This was so good man. I’ve been watching you since Primary School, and not only is it insane that you’re still going
It’s insane that your content has gotten so much better, it’s honestly so cool to see. Thank you for all the memories man, I still remember first seeing the Galen Marek vs Ashoka video which introduced me to you. ^-^
I expected Dooku vs Malak, but this is much better thank you
Also how about Cadeus vs Revan I mean the parallels between them are countless
@@Wes_Bradley-Taubner And also the fact that he's extremaly overrated by a large portion of the fans, although i tend to belive that old republic era characters tend to be really overrated by the fandome .
@@elfather2045 That's largely because SWTOR's mmo format allows for more visually impressive displays of power
@@elfather2045Same for NJO
The anticipation … the excitement … I can feel it … UNLIMITED POWER !!!
HOLY COW!!!!! This is one I've wanted for a long time but never thought we'd get. Can't wait to listen
OH MY GOD YOU FINALLY DID IT!
Best Star Wars TH-camr is back yay!!!
HE’S BACK, BABY! 6 months well spent, I say!
LESGOOO I'VE BEEN WANTING TO SEE YOU COVER SIDIOUS FOR SO LONG
Saving this for the second I'm back home, love your stuff as always man.
Your versus videos are the best in all the social media! Not only do you do deep research for the characters, but you also choose very wisely! Sometimes I might not agree with the winner, but opinions differ.
Congratulations for choosing 2 awesome villains, greetings from Greece!
Evan!! Great to see you back, I cannot wait to listen to this new installment
never stop making videos Evan! your our hero! You and Connor are our old Ben and Yoda, the last in your generation of Versus Battlers that set the standard!
Q&A:
1.) would you do a revised Sidious vs Vitiate video? We’ve learned so much more about Vitiate since you did your original one and I think your view of Sidious has evolved a great deal.
2.) how would you feel about a Caedus vs Krayt match up? I think they match each other very well.
3.) do you think sidious could’ve matched Krayt’s feats against Abeloth?
4.) do you think that the claims stating “____ is the most powerful Sith Lord” hold any validity? They throw claims like that around non stop. It does a disservice to rely too heavily on them. People think that just because one is further down the Rule of Two line they’re automatically more powerful than earlier ones which is illogical for multiple reasons, one being that later Sith used treachery more often than an actual duel which is what Bane intended, thereby negating one’s inferiority and skirting direct power leveling.
Thanks for the video it was absolutely fantastic. I disagree with a couple of the points but overall you make a very compelling argument for Krayt.
This is a dream Match up🔥
Never in my life have I needed something so much in my life until I’ve recieved it.
Good seeing you back, Evan!
This is Master Level Supreme Analysis Evan!! You have master the force of Vs Videos!
Good to see you back man. Love all of your videos/content Evan.
I was not expecting this one
Q and A
In your opinion who win between Darth Kraty and Darth Cadeus?
Two if instead of a fight what do you think Darth Kraty and Darth Cadeus would think of each other and their plans if they had a actual conversation with each other.
Finally, three do you think Darth Kraty waited hundreds of years after Luke died or began his plans? I don't think Kraty was necessarily scared of Luke or his order but was generally wary of him and knew Luke order was still in its prime with powerful memories like Kyle Katarn and Jaina solo. I don't think it makes Kraty a coward, and if anything was a good intelligent feat to wait,for the biggest threat to his plans to die of old age then strike when the time was right with his forces. What do you think?
You’re a GOAT for this.
Well Evan you've set the stage well for the next step. We need GM Luke v. Krayt.
Agreed
If we take base Crucible Luke Skywalker he should win. With immense difficulty tho. With the monolith energy amplification he low diffs
No, we don’t. Luke wins…
My thoughts exactly. We need GM Luke.
@@TinyToraha better idea a rematch with sidious and Krayt but this time it's the one sith vs the entire galactic empire (including the Inquisitors, lumaya and starkiller)
And safe to say the One Sith Being on Luke's NJO level would curbstomp the empire effortlessly force waving and destroying a whole bunch of Storm troopers and ATATs and Star destroyers as possible. Vader might get a few dozen of Krayts sith killed but then Hell be embolized by 1000+ force chokes all together. then Krayt uses Darth Transfer then Krayt kills sidious then the remaining empire along with Krayts ROO will bow down to the true emperor.
I’ve been a fan over several years and I’m very happy about this vid it’s good to have you back Evannova95! Also I love this match up it’s my two favorite darksiders besides Malgus and Vader.
Scary crab man beats up an old politician.
More like a hedgehog
Good to see you still putting out AWESOME content Evannova95 !! Such a golden era back in the day with you, Antoine Bendele and Jensarai
W video. Idk if i completely agree with the outcome but amazing analysis. As for ideas I mentioned it once but Darth Thanaton vs Inquisitor Jerec just sits right with me for some reason. Glad to see this finally released. Amazing work :)
An interesting matchup: Clash of the Dark Side Scholars. Even though both combatants were primarily Force duelists, Jerec gets the martial edge, though I doubt a fight between these two would be a lightsaber battle.
In regards to raw Force power level, I’d say they’re comparable in strength. Ultimately, I think that Thanaton would ultimately win. His Force shields allows him to defend himself against Jerec’s Force Destruction and Thanaton’s lightning is more developed and stronger. As the head of the Sphere of Ancient Knowledge, Thanaton likely familiarized himself with mental techniques to defend against Jerec’s Force Suppression ability, thus keeping his basis covered.
Well said my friend, well said.
Fun idea, both dark side scholars with force abilities being the deciding factor.
In terms of power, Id give an edge to Thanaton. Jerec is comp to Dooku, Thanatos to Malgus. But Jerec is still powerful enough to contend quite well. But consume essence can make up the power difference if Thanatos does full dark side channeling.
Jerec has outs to everything Thanaton throws at him. advanced sense abilities + battlemind handles telepathy, tutaminis handles lightning, solid tk barriers for tk. And then Jerec busts out force destruction which Thanatos has no idea how to deal with. His active force shield could guard against it, but im unsure how Thanaton would predict to that in the first place.
Add on top of jerec's advantage as a swordsman, and I think Jerec has the odds to pull a win.
N with that Darth Krayt gains the revenge he so wanted back when he was a Jedi noice
The Strongest Sith in History versus The Dragon of the Sith (that title goes so hard)
Palpatine: "If he got rid of his Yuuzhan Vong armor and regained all of his power, it would be a bit difficult"
"Would you lose?"
Palpatine: "Nah, I'd win"
He would, in fact, not win 💀
Christmas came early
This must be the mother of all Versus videos, and I'm all for it.
Been waiting for this one since the Council Forecast pondered it 8 years ago. I'm sure it won't disappointi!
It was such an epic scal annalyse! I was entrance by your video nearly from begining through the end. In my opinion, you done an amazing job! It's a masterpiece !
What a pleasant surprise. Haven't watched since I made a new TH-cam. Last video I watched was you talking about Kol Skywalker. Good times. Glad I found the channel again
Yes!!! Something worth watching lol. Welcome back! Plus two of my favorites Sith going at it
I would love to see these have a come back
Yoo this is awesome! Was totally not expecting this, so hyped for this one!!!
SNEAK ATTACK!!!! And with my favorite reigning Sith Lord! Darth Krayt is a beast! The Legacy era is my favorite and I’m glad you show it love
Holy shit i just realized ive been subscribed to you for almost 10 years.
Funny thing is… I LITERALLY just thought of a matchup between these two literally YESTERDAY!!!!!! Haven’t even watched the video yet but had to say this
I do recall making this suggestion years ago. Though I know it wasn't just a request on my end, I'm so glad I finally got to see the match up I've been wanting for such a long time. Thanks again for this, Evan. I cant imagine the massive undertaking it took to make thisbpossible. Nevertheless, every second of it was amazing. Can't wait to see your future projects. Stay safe and May the Force be with you.
Good video but I disagree with the conclusion; Sidious gave too little praise and Krayt too much.
Scaling to Luke isn’t really viable because they never fought, not at all, Luke considered dodging his lightning because both of them were definitely exhausted from fighting a god-tier entity. The throne of balance is just another chosen-one-esque style thing, where instead of Anakin being the one to stop Sidious, it’s Luke stopping Krayt. Doesn’t mean they are equal in power.
Sidious buries an entire SSD with the force, mind wipes thousands of people, weakens DE Luke with mental attacks alone. How is this not mentioned more, clearly Sidious has the TK advantage, and he could probably affect Krayt to SOME degree with his mental abilities.
Sure DE luke outdueled Sidious, but as we know Sidious losing the saber combat doesn’t mean he’s lost the fight, he bested Yoda with the force and most likely could have overwhelmed Mace. He almost BENT the saber back into Mace’s body, stopped, pretended to be weak and then OBLITERATED Mace with the lightning right after. Palpatine takes the edge in lightning for sure, regardless of how many of Krayt’s minions have X feats with lightning; none of them can compare to this really.
Krayt’s dueling feats are overhyped, he never fought anyone of Yoda or Mace’s caliber, true Sidious may have lost to them, but he still damn well. DE Sidious is not ROTS sidious, but he’s surely improved his skills in the force and lightsaber combat; Vader never dared to challenge his master for a reason - even if OT Sidious hardly has any saber feats. So pre-prime Sidious is able to compete with Mace and Yoda, completely destroying Talzin in a saber duel when she was shown being able to hold off Mace briefly, but loses martial skill to Krayt? When Krayt has NO showings besides destroying multiple council members - who don’t have many feats themselves. Even if Palpatine “stunned” some of the council members they still got dispatched quickly, with Yoda and Mace being the only real matchups.
The force storm not being utilized in direct combat makes sense, but also doesn’t. Yes, Sheev got cut off from the storm, so it destroyed him. But if he wasn't cut off it would have never destroyed him, we see him make multiple, with one of them TELEPORTING organic matter from one side of the galaxy to the next. Realistically if hes able to pop even a lesser one off as a ditch attempt; Krayt is obliterated.
Extra: Sidious isn’t that physically weak, he takes a kick from Savage, who is a literal tank shown to body Dooku around multiple times.
Extra PT 2: bold of you to assume Krayt would even get close enough to Sidious to utilize dark transfer, and it requires a lot of power.
I feel that overall while Krayt is an excellent duelist, Sidious is simply better due to who he’s fought - he’s also not that physically superior to Sidious overwhelmingly - Sidious is definitely faster (once again due to who he has fought). Krayt is inferior in the force in RAW Power, and overall mastery. Sidious has too many feats to lose in a fight, even if he may fail to have a higher mastery at dueling, he cooks Krayt with the force in the end.
Sidious solos
DE luke had help from Leia battle meditation and anakin solo
Nah krayt stomps
@@adig2414 No.
@@DM5550Z Evan is a Krayt simp. I knew who he would pick before I watched it. lol
Here are my questions for if you do a Q&A for this:
1. Would you ever consider doing a verses with Ben Skywalker? Out of all the Skywalker descendants, he's is the least explored when it comes to fighting skills
2. Would you ever consider doing a video about how Disney broke the Force? I'm not sure if such a video topic is your style or not, but its something to consider.
3. What are your thoughts on the fan theory that Galen Marek and the Starkiller Clone are one in the same? As in Galen survived and was simply tricked into thinking he was clone.
And how exactly did Disney break the Force?
@@lativ3715How ??? By making virtually everyone capable of using it, disregarding training or attitude. Look no further than Rey or Sabine ffs
@@yrooxrksvi7142 Exactly
@@yrooxrksvi7142honestly, Sabine was a much better character when she was just a regular mandalorian. They completely ruined and butchered her, and this retcon makes no sense because it also destroys Rebels as a show because why didn’t kanan sense her force sensitivity when he was able to sense Ezra and even fucking Vader. But then again, this is Disney. Of course they don’t have to make sense
They should’ve instead built up on the first mandalorian Jedi wielding the dark saber and have some distant descendant mandalorian finding his or her way in the galaxy after the Empire.
Evan, please do Vestara Khai vs Darth Zannah....or even Ben Skywalker vs Anakin Solo.
I'd love either or even both.
Hett is one of my favourite characters of all Star Wars, though, not as his sith version, but as a Tusken/Jedi, a completely unique individual in the galaxy, having survived order 66 and returned to his old home with the people he cared for and pretty much turned himself into a freedom figther for Tattoine. He was so cool.
Also, Obiwan really has to stop cutting the limbs of his opponents and leaving them to die, Which is even more cruel than finishing them.
Yeah Obi-Wan has a bad habit of cutting off limbs and causing that person to become a significant nuisance to the galaxy later on doesn’t he 😂
Can't wait to see more content from you, the number 1 star wars versus series creator
Oh dayum i’ve waited 10 years for this! And it will have to wait until tomorrow as 2+ hrs is one hell of a demand😂😂 looking forward though, thankyou Evan
Hey it's finally out! Congratulations Evan!
oh shoot ive been looking forward to this i always listen to your stuff at night when im trying to sleep helps quiet the adhd racing mind this is going to be legend tier
Q&A Questions:
1. Would you be interested in doing these following match ups?
Darth Sidious vs Vitiate (Sith Emperors)
Cin Drallig and Serra Keto vs Kao Cen Darach and Satele Shan (Battle Masters and acrobatic students)
Darth Vader vs Revan (Former Jedi turned Sith)
Mara Jade vs Galen Marek (Trained by the Sith)
2. Who do you think is the most underrated Jedi and Sith in your opinion?
3. Is it possible to do match ups of two characters who are the same but different versions of themselves (example: Anakin Skywalker vs Darth Vader)?
This channel is always a good place to revisit 👏
Sidious vs Krayt has to be the ultimate mashup
God I love the narrations they make these so much more engaging
WELCOME BACK BROTHER
Absolute mastercraft of a video and in my opinion the best verses video I've ever seen on youtube period. Hoping we get Darth Krayt vs Valkorion/ vitiate next
That was a fun listen. Yeah I have to agree with your outcome on this matchup. Good stuff! 👍
Hell yeah, a versus where Krayt’s body isn’t going to kneecap his viability! This is gonna be good
This is where the fun begins.
Holy Crap, now that's a match up of the century.
Easily my most anticipated Star Wars Versus matchup since Antoine's Yoda vs Luke Skywalker.
Q&A Question-
I only now wonder how either combatant could deal with someone like Darth Caedus ?
My versus idea for next season would be
Satele Shan vs Revan (great granddaughter vs grandfather )
Mara Jade Skywalker Vs Galen Marek ( Sith Assassins for general combat)
Shaak Tii vs Darth Malak (Form 2&4 masters)
Time for this then Takes if the Jedi. Thank you, Evan!
Remain one of your biggest fans! This video rocks! Darth Krayt is one my favorite Sith, and definitely my favorite reigning Sith Lord.
Excellent analysis. Q&A:
1. In your vid discussing Sith Lords that didn’t use red lightsabers, jensaarai bought up a theory of the trophy blades used by Sidious in Dark Empire that they’re the blades of Agen Kolar, Saesee Tiin, and Kit Fisto. Do you believe that theory is true or no?
2. A Star Wars character I feel is very underrepresented in the versus community is Darth Traya. What are your thoughts on Darth Traya as a character? If you ever decided to feature her in a match, who would you put her up against?
3. This is in reference to your Ahsoka vs Galen Marek vid from a while ago. Would you say your opinion on the outcome of that match has changed over years given how much development Ahsoka has had (Tales of the Jedi, Clone Wars Season 7, Rebels, and Ahsoka Season 1)?
Almost all of Ahsoka’s development and appearances that you are thinking of are Disney canon only and he use’s legends. Thus it would not apply to legends as it never happened in this continuity.
@@flipout216also even then if we use legends cosmology for canon, Ahsoka still isn’t strong enough. She lasts longer against marek but still gets hammered to oblivion because of his massive advantage as a force wielder. The new stuff only gave her minor improvements, such as being more niman oriented than Ataru, active force shields and a level of ability with tutaminis though not on the level of lightning. Marek still holds the advantage in all areas. He does everything she does, and then a bunch more
Oh I can just tell this us going to be a very enjoyable experience regardless of who of these completely overpowered Sith gods win.
41:09 Again Vastor does not scale to ROTS Anakin. The Anakin in that novel is literally ATOC anakin who gets utterly obliterated by his rots counterpart. That is like scaling a literal child to a full grown adult numerous sources state Anakin's ATOC power was vastly surpassed by Anakin a few months into the war to the point he is basically a completely different person. Kar Vastor does not scale to rots Anakin the difference is so vast its ridiculous
Or otherwise the novel means Clone Wars Anakin
@@lapplandkun9273 Its still him shortly after the war starts
YEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!! SO EXCITED FOR THIS ONE
What a treat, a 2 hour feast of some of the coolest Sith Lords to ever Sith going at it in a brawl at their respective peaks.
Shimrra wasn't stated to be more skilled than Palpatine, he was stated to be an unknown to Luke when they fought wheras Sidious at least was a somewhat-familiar face to be fighting. The source you pulled from explicitly states that Palpatine was a familiar enemy due to images of him reaching Tatooine. Not surprising given that the man was essentially running the whole galaxy and making orations on the weekly.
Evan seems to have rather severe 'reading problems', if you catch my drift.
One match I honestly would have loved to see!
Can you do Darth Bane vs Darth Malak?
Path of Destruction Bane or Dynasty of Evil Bane?
@@darylsdesigns6679 DOE
Then, I’d put my credits on Bane. He may be roughly a decade older than Malak, he’s easily physically stronger and tougher and can match his speed and reflexes. Malak’s one-handed Juyo leaves him vulnerable to counterattacks, something Bane’s Forms V and III could capitalize on. Bane’s TK and Force lightning are far more devastating and if Malak attempts to use Force stun, Bane can muscle through it
@@GamingBickle Bane mid difficulty.
Would like to see Caedus vs Krayt as I think they are the two most powerful Sith Lords in history and cannot decide who is more powerful.
Might be the best surpise I've ever seen in my life.
I personally would give it to Darth Krayt, he rivaled Luke at a Point where he was much more experienced than during DE when beating prime Sidious. It only make sense that Krayt should outscale Sidious.
Time to Watch the Video. Keep up the Great work and May the Force be with you !
Facts
Where did he ever rival Luke? They never fought, were never scaled and never was it even implied that they were equals in power or combat.
Fighting a severely weakened celestial together does not mean that they are equals.
@@DropkickNation it has been stated clearly that they were equals at that point. Luke Even feared Krayt. Krayt is at least on Par if Not a league above luke.
@@abeloth1116 Where and when was there ever power scaling? There was never a direct comparison.
@@abeloth1116 Krayt didn't 'rival' GM Luke, no.
Evan you beautiful bastard. I never expected this masterpiece for the season finale. May the force be with you
Finally a smart TH-camr understands krayt
I have wanted to see this fight ever since I discovered this corner of TH-cam back in 2011. Let’s go!!!!
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Damn, I felt the disturbance in the force - but this is a legendary present after a day in the office. I mean what can even top this match up? A three-way battle between those to plus Vitiate? Amazing as always, man!
Thank you for all the hard work here, amazing video!!
I would like to point out Vader beat Celeste morne while holding back as he legit said he did not want to kill her and immeadeately disarmed her
And coming out during the day of the eclipse. That’s crazy.
I think it is a really good matchup with really good execution. It does annoy me though because in my opinion Sidious is the ultimate enemy and it just ended up fueling power creep in Star Wars. It also annoys me that the only way he is stronger is by the lake of apparitions fight.
I do think there are some things that should be mentioned though. One of the reasons they were able to defeat Abeloth was by using a combined power of both the light and the dark side energy. Krayt also kinda stood back at least initially and let Luke do a lot of the fighting. They were not putting in equal effort. I also think that it is possible that Sidious would be able to compensate instead of krayt. I don’t think it would change the outcome but I do think Sidious should have one the force power catigory. It might not win him the match but I do think that Krayt wins force powers on a little sketchy logic. This might be my own bias but I think that Sidious’s feet’s are more consistent. I do agree with his lightsaber ability and physical attributes. I think those parts were done really well. I would be really interested in the fight Darth Krayt vs. Darth Cidous though I think that match has a lot of potential.
It's not a bias, a huge fan of Legacy here and I agree 100% with that. Imho his take on Krayt from the older "Bane vs Krayt" video is fare more accurate.
I could see that. I would argue that his existing feet’s would pretty solidly put him above Bane but I can see your point.
@@ChristopherL-nw8wr Of course, he is above Bane and after rebirth surely closer to Sidious in power, but that video didn't overestimate him like this one. He rightfully wins that matchup of course.
Yeah you’re right.
The Duel of the Sith Emperors is about to commence! May the Powers of the Dark Side commence... 😈
Great vid man. Looking at the Palpatine clones, them being unstable made me think Palpatine should have gotten nano droids and programmed them to reinforce and stabilize the body, perhaps even create artificial midichlorians to enhance his clone’s power over the force. Same thing goes for Krayt. If he had those nano droids and a tank of bacta, he might have achieved restoration and resistance to degradation, making him capable of diving deeper in the darkside, as well as sidious, with less damage to themselves.
F*CK YES! THIS IS SO GOATED!!
Sidious wins evan missed a lot of the more potent sidious TP…
At long last, Sidious has met his match. Excellent work, even if the length is a bit much for even a versus video (was still definitely worth the wait)!
On a slightly unrelated note, have you ever considered doing the occasional crossover versus? I understand that a TON more research would be required for something like that, but perhaps that could be counteracted by utilizing the character from another IP in a mini-marathon akin to what you did with Darth Malgus this season?
Example: Isabelle Arrington from SapphireFoxx
Isabelle Arrington vs. Dark Empire Luke Skywalker
Isabelle Arrington vs Adult Ahsoka Tano
Isabelle Arrington vs. Anakin Solo
Who's Isabelle Arrington ? And how powerful is she for you to think it's a fair comparison to put him at the level of the people your comparing her to
@@user-lp8im7ow8s Isabelle Arrington is a powerful sorceress and one of the main characters of the Main SapphireFoxx Universe/Canon SapphireFoxx timeline. In terms of power, she has some major feats under her belt even prior to her prime, partially thanks to her training under Alistair. In terms of telepathy, Isabelle has used using Mass Memory Alter on over 2,000 people across the globe simultaneously. As for telekinesis, she has been seen levitating a 747 jumbo jet, as well as morphing chunks of asphalt pavement into a pair of floating hands, both more impressive than anything Dark Empire Luke has achieved in this field. That's not to mention Isabelle's insane teleportation capabilities, being part of the Sapphire bloodline.
Firstly love your stuff Evan been watching you for years keep up the good work
Secondly how dare you make a 2 1/2 hour video making me drop everything I’m doing to watch this amazing video and reminding me on why Krayt is my favorite emperor lol
Alright Evan, here I have some questions for the follow-up video.
1. Do you plan to make Versus Series of other franchises you love outside Star Wars in a near future? Example: Naruto or Avatar TLA/LOK or Dragon Ball.
2. Do you believe that Luke underestimated Krayt after the Abeloth fight, especially for delivering him that warning?
3. Is there a possiblity that you would do a Versus Series involving non-force sensitive characters or bounty hunters in general in the near future? Ex: Grievous vs. Boba Fett (Legends for both) or Shae Vizla vs. Bo Katan.
4. If Sidious did hypothetically manage to be in the period of the Abeloth Event, would he be able to accomplish Krayt's feats or not?
5. Would you do a powerscaling for the One-Sith Order?