There's a couple important bits of information I think are worth mentioning. Kawasaki is calling it the Ninja 7 because its power is roughly equivalent to the Ninja 650. So they're not claiming "liter bike power", but it's still a quick bike. It is a little heavy, but not that bad. I figure it'll either be the same, or a scoche slower than a Ninja 650 in a straight line. No idea how they'll compare in the corners, though. They're also officially claiming 76 mpg, but it could potentially hit 80-90 mpg if you factor in the electric-only range, which is honestly really impressive, imo. Also, the transmission is pretty genius in that it allows for switching in and out of battery-only mode on the fly, even at speed. It also has automatic or manual shifting. And to anyone who doesn't like the sound of that, remember that Honda developed the Hondamatic over half a century ago, and it's been an enormous success. Honda have also been using and refining DCTs in bikes for several years, to a generally warm reception. I think this bike is aimed a certain kind of rider that doesn't typically get a lot of direct attention, and it'll be interesting to see where the segment goes after this.
And what, exactly, is that certain type of rider supposed to be? Most bikes in this class already get 50mpg, and you can always get a small-displacement bike for 70-80mpg.
It's way too heavy and barely gets any better MPG than the Ninja 500 which has the same engine. First gen hybrid tech would not be worth the risks either. Save $7000, buy a Ninja 500.
I’ve ridden one. Set one up. I think all ninjas are horrible to ride. But for those who can ride them. It’s overall an amazing bike. Fast. E boost is like a shot of nitrous, I was surprised. And the ability to ride it in the silent electric mode or with the engine on is amazing. The coolest thing is, say you need to ride into your apartment complex late at night and don’t want to wake nobody up cause the engine is loud. Enter electric mode with a button push and drive in almost silent mid ride.
Hybrid motorcycles work if the EV portion is giving it that extra oomph that thrill seekers are looking for. But MPG should hardly be a big consideration when riding a motorbike, as they are more efficient than cars anyhow.
But you get small displacment mpg with middleweight power. Idk. Im still miffed they cancelled the iron1200 harley davidson. Didnt even have coolant to change on that thing. This thing has everything. Ninja h2 is still the king of the sportbikes its been years now. 186 is slow
I wonder how the hybrid battery does during winter storage if you dont have a climate controlled garage or shed, especially in the upper states or regions with extremely cold temperatures and snow.
I have been waiting so long for this, and I will be purchasing this after the second batch rolls out in the Great ole U.S.A. This might be one of the first bikes that I don’t do any performance mods on. Strictly weight reduction and creature comforts.
It got me intrigued, BUT here is the problem: I have a Honda NC750X that is as fuel efficient, has great torque, is less tech savvy but is also much, MUCH cheaper. Therefore I can say I like the fact Kawasaki decided to introduce this model and I hope it will be just the first one of many.
Feel like the sports-bike application is just alright.... Would be better suited to adv/tour/cruiser etc. - they higher weights anyways, and more torque- driven/ fuel economy could Maybe help as a range extender. But that instant reverse with the electric motor is so nice. . Bravo kawi
The formula of a hybrid surely belongs too a regular universal type of machine rather than a sports bike. That's considering the weight factor and why bother view of this machine. Can't really see the potential buyers. Surely a look what we can do exercise from Kawasaki engineering.
A standard motorcycle would benefit more from a hybrid indeed. I think kawasaki did a sports bike as the first because the tech is still in the youth kinda so i mea. A sportsbike you can throw a plastic piece amd cover up tbat part you havent figured out how to make look good to the eyes 😂 in a standard motorcycle there is almost no paneling so the components have to look good and be presentible. Less room for error and tbh this is like the first hybrid motorcycle weve reslly seen so its impressive tbh. This is better thsn all electric with swappable batteries. What am i going to do carry them in my backpack in the middle of knowwhere? Maybe in 2765 when a nuclear reactor fits in thensizd of a AA battery and everywhere turned into a radioactive wasteland because people threw the batteries away
Also way heavier. I mean its also the first of its kind so there is that aspect. The furst prius sucked balls compared to the first generation of this am I right or am I right? Therefore 8n 3 generations we wull have the xbox series x compared to the original xbox you feel me. Ill be able to deploy oil slick tk force an enemy off my tail
I've read into this as fast as a liter bike at the lights has a 15 seconds boost mode kinda like a turbo . But it has to cool down for 1minute before you can use the boost again 😮
Well right now we're seeing it on a gas sipping 451cc engine... But imagine something down the line like a ZX-6R with more readily available low rpm power in city and urban riding with significantly more mpg? That'd be awesome.
The Ninja 7 could potentially hit 80-90 mpg. The CB450 also weighed almost 100 lbs less, and made 27 fewer hp while not adhering to any emissions regulations.
@@bavarianbanshee nc750x gets average 65 mpg and up to 80mpg . I think the vstrom 650 is similar. R7's are around 55-60 mpg from memory. Royal Enfield 350s are up around 90. The 7 hybrids only making 58 HP and 68 HP with full E boost. At 227kgs it's not as heavy as expected unless that's dry weight! Where a cb450 was 180kgs dry which would put it around 2-210 wet which doesn't leave that much between them. The price tag on these are huge , they sound like they're going to be slow and the fuel economy isn't that much greater. The r7 is 75hp so a mix of commuter and a touch of sport. I honestly think these will only be bought by the soy latte , man bun wanker crowds. Could be wrong though. At the end of the day I also don't care about gas mileage so I'm not the one to comment on it. I still ride something with quad carbs and don't even own any EFI bikes anymore . Tell you what though , those flat slides are much more economical than any car I own haha.
All gasoline motorcycles are supreme but the hybrids are going to be better than all elecrric because if they do it right you could get more torque but not have to stop and charge you just fill uo with gas and get really good mpg. I just like a traditional gasoline motorcycle. Very affordable as well as the efficiency these days is up there
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There's a couple important bits of information I think are worth mentioning.
Kawasaki is calling it the Ninja 7 because its power is roughly equivalent to the Ninja 650. So they're not claiming "liter bike power", but it's still a quick bike. It is a little heavy, but not that bad. I figure it'll either be the same, or a scoche slower than a Ninja 650 in a straight line. No idea how they'll compare in the corners, though.
They're also officially claiming 76 mpg, but it could potentially hit 80-90 mpg if you factor in the electric-only range, which is honestly really impressive, imo.
Also, the transmission is pretty genius in that it allows for switching in and out of battery-only mode on the fly, even at speed. It also has automatic or manual shifting. And to anyone who doesn't like the sound of that, remember that Honda developed the Hondamatic over half a century ago, and it's been an enormous success. Honda have also been using and refining DCTs in bikes for several years, to a generally warm reception.
I think this bike is aimed a certain kind of rider that doesn't typically get a lot of direct attention, and it'll be interesting to see where the segment goes after this.
They put it againat a ninja 1k and it smoked it lmao. You don't know what you're talking about
And what, exactly, is that certain type of rider supposed to be? Most bikes in this class already get 50mpg, and you can always get a small-displacement bike for 70-80mpg.
It's way too heavy and barely gets any better MPG than the Ninja 500 which has the same engine. First gen hybrid tech would not be worth the risks either.
Save $7000, buy a Ninja 500.
The electric only range isn't that useful, since you cant charge it
This was very helpful information 🎉
It looks good. I've owned a hybrid car. I don't see why a hybrid motorcycle wouldn't be in my future.
I’ve ridden one. Set one up. I think all ninjas are horrible to ride. But for those who can ride them. It’s overall an amazing bike. Fast. E boost is like a shot of nitrous, I was surprised. And the ability to ride it in the silent electric mode or with the engine on is amazing. The coolest thing is, say you need to ride into your apartment complex late at night and don’t want to wake nobody up cause the engine is loud. Enter electric mode with a button push and drive in almost silent mid ride.
In “super sport” config, makes no sense. I don’t see these bikes becoming more popular this is probably gonna be a rare collectible
Hybrid motorcycles work if the EV portion is giving it that extra oomph that thrill seekers are looking for. But MPG should hardly be a big consideration when riding a motorbike, as they are more efficient than cars anyhow.
Mpg is important to anyone when Gas goes from 1.87 to 6. But will the extra price and weight be worth it
And for countries that earns as little as 10, per day.
@@fractalmadness9253 this bike isn't for those countries.
I'm sure that Hybrid the cons of both "heavy" and "pricey"😂😂😂
But you get small displacment mpg with middleweight power. Idk. Im still miffed they cancelled the iron1200 harley davidson. Didnt even have coolant to change on that thing. This thing has everything. Ninja h2 is still the king of the sportbikes its been years now. 186 is slow
@@TheAnnoyingBossif your thst rich why would you want to have good fuel eco 😂
We need this tech in sport "touring" bikes that still have a range of less than 400 km.
yeah, i think that they should have just made it a straight up sport bike.
Yes, pay more on a 450 than you do on a ZX6R because that makes perfect sense.
Yes I would absolutely buy a hybrid bike. Hybrid bikes are the future and all bikes should have automatic options
I wonder how the hybrid battery does during winter storage if you dont have a climate controlled garage or shed, especially in the upper states or regions with extremely cold temperatures and snow.
I have been waiting so long for this, and I will be purchasing this after the second batch rolls out in the Great ole U.S.A.
This might be one of the first bikes that I don’t do any performance mods on. Strictly weight reduction and creature comforts.
It got me intrigued, BUT here is the problem: I have a Honda NC750X that is as fuel efficient, has great torque, is less tech savvy but is also much, MUCH cheaper.
Therefore I can say I like the fact Kawasaki decided to introduce this model and I hope it will be just the first one of many.
Let's state the weight in freedom units.
Multiply by 2.2 freedoms and divide by 1 commie to get the right units
Feel like the sports-bike application is just alright....
Would be better suited to adv/tour/cruiser etc. - they higher weights anyways, and more torque- driven/ fuel economy could
Maybe help as a range extender.
But that instant reverse with the electric motor is so nice. .
Bravo kawi
It's for Indians and Africans
One they perfect it then rock on. 100 MPG
The formula of a hybrid surely belongs too a regular universal type of machine rather than a sports bike. That's considering the weight factor and why bother view of this machine. Can't really see the potential buyers. Surely a look what we can do exercise from Kawasaki engineering.
A standard motorcycle would benefit more from a hybrid indeed. I think kawasaki did a sports bike as the first because the tech is still in the youth kinda so i mea. A sportsbike you can throw a plastic piece amd cover up tbat part you havent figured out how to make look good to the eyes 😂 in a standard motorcycle there is almost no paneling so the components have to look good and be presentible. Less room for error and tbh this is like the first hybrid motorcycle weve reslly seen so its impressive tbh. This is better thsn all electric with swappable batteries. What am i going to do carry them in my backpack in the middle of knowwhere? Maybe in 2765 when a nuclear reactor fits in thensizd of a AA battery and everywhere turned into a radioactive wasteland because people threw the batteries away
Did I hear him correctly? “Power of a liter bike”? Kawasaki says this will have 58hp. That’s weaker than just about every 600
Also way heavier. I mean its also the first of its kind so there is that aspect. The furst prius sucked balls compared to the first generation of this am I right or am I right? Therefore 8n 3 generations we wull have the xbox series x compared to the original xbox you feel me. Ill be able to deploy oil slick tk force an enemy off my tail
I've read into this as fast as a liter bike at the lights has a 15 seconds boost mode kinda like a turbo . But it has to cool down for 1minute before you can use the boost again 😮
You have to use the eco boost button
Just test rode one yesterday, very interesting but the price point is hard to get over
I think this is the first in a line of hybrid motorcycles we will see from Kawasaki in the coming years
Putting this drivetrain into their version of a Goldwing would make way more sense.
Idk. I would have to ride it. I'd be more interested in something more tour but the stumbling block is that bikes don't get bad gas mileage.
Was going to say litre power with single pot nissins? Nope thats 650 i2 power or theirs no way it wouldnt have 4 pots on it.
I'm fine with the H2
Superb
Only issue I have would be no clutch and foot gears. Only thing I don't like about it
Yes
Really stupid idea. When's the last time someone on a motorcycle complained about gas mileage?
There are people with those type of motives in mind. Though not that you would especially find them in sports bikes of course haha.
Well right now we're seeing it on a gas sipping 451cc engine... But imagine something down the line like a ZX-6R with more readily available low rpm power in city and urban riding with significantly more mpg? That'd be awesome.
227 kilograms? What’s that? Can you sneak out of work early, we’ll buy it.
Love it ❤
Buttons? Like on the handlebars or on the door?
I don't wanna be shifting a motorcycle by hand
That's brilliant but it is heavy. The price of the bike would make it not worth buying.
Who would buy this. I wonder how Kawasaki is gonna sell to more than a few people
Who is this bike for? I'm not even sure Kawasaki knows...
I would be interested vs an EV bike
Its better than an ev
Nope no sir don't like it doubt I can work on it myself and that's the most important point.
Hybrid > Electric
I thought it was automatic
It is
The original Honda cb450, would routinely get 75mpg.
-- AT freeway speeds.
The Ninja 7 could potentially hit 80-90 mpg. The CB450 also weighed almost 100 lbs less, and made 27 fewer hp while not adhering to any emissions regulations.
@@bavarianbanshee nc750x gets average 65 mpg and up to 80mpg . I think the vstrom 650 is similar.
R7's are around 55-60 mpg from memory. Royal Enfield 350s are up around 90.
The 7 hybrids only making 58 HP and 68 HP with full E boost. At 227kgs it's not as heavy as expected unless that's dry weight! Where a cb450 was 180kgs dry which would put it around 2-210 wet which doesn't leave that much between them.
The price tag on these are huge , they sound like they're going to be slow and the fuel economy isn't that much greater.
The r7 is 75hp so a mix of commuter and a touch of sport.
I honestly think these will only be bought by the soy latte , man bun wanker crowds. Could be wrong though. At the end of the day I also don't care about gas mileage so I'm not the one to comment on it.
I still ride something with quad carbs and don't even own any EFI bikes anymore . Tell you what though , those flat slides are much more economical than any car I own haha.
Lol no!
It's as heave as a "land whale" GS 1250..... with a smaller power than the 650....My god, it's a gimmich.
Simply buy a more fuel efficient 350 cc .... I appreciate the engineering, but wouldn't buy this hybrid motorcycle
Imagine the mileage you’d get on a 350 hybrid though.
Nope. Next
All gasoline motorcycles are supreme but the hybrids are going to be better than all elecrric because if they do it right you could get more torque but not have to stop and charge you just fill uo with gas and get really good mpg. I just like a traditional gasoline motorcycle. Very affordable as well as the efficiency these days is up there
No
junk.
Wank
Not for me,no thanks 🥴
Kawasaki don’t do this 🤮