Are Race Schools Worth It? | Radford Racing School
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.ค. 2024
- In this documentary-style video we discuss driver education, training and safety along with the relevance to modern car and truck owners. We take a trip to Radford Racing School (FORMERLY Bondurant High-Performance Driving School) to talk with some of the most experienced teachers and instructors in the industry to find out the benefits of advanced driver education. With all of the talk of technology and upcoming autonomous cars do consumers need to learn all of the details? The cost of cars and trucks continually increase, Ford F150, Mustang, RAV4, BMW M3 etc, are far over $30k so the risks of costly damage and repair will continue to rise.
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Index:
00:00 - 2:21
2:21 - 5:03 The Classroom
5:03 - 10:14 The Classroom, Steering and Understanding Motion
10:14 - 13:04 The Skid Car and Driving Control
13:04 - 18:34 Trusting Your Teacher
18:34 - 21:51 Understanding the Car and Driving
21:51 - 24:33 Paying Attention and Using Vision
24:33 - 30:28 Working Hard to Drive Better
30:28 -32:09 Safety is More Than Just Tech
32:09 Final Thoughts - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
“It’s not always about speed it’s about enjoying the drive”
Hell yeah that’s damn right!
That's right, but speed is also fun. You have to be very involved and attentive to get the fastest lapse time, and the process is really enjoyable.
Scino Iem yeah speed is also fun too but I like to shift my own gears
10 years ago I was thinking only about speed. Now sometimes I just like to take the long way home to enjoy the drive just a little longer.
I totally agree, i enjoy driving more in my stock S2000 than the Type R that just says it
Heck yea. That’s why I still rock a 2012 370z. 0-60 in 4.8 and .99 lateral Gs aren’t melt your face off numbers. But pair that with a NA motor with a great soundtrack and a 6 speed manual transmission, it’s definitely a fun as hell car.
Former instructor here, who gave up trying to improve road safety. Most students just want their license faster, and almost all licensed drivers think their skills and knowledge are above average.
John Campbell lets just say...if the license is for qualifying to build an airplane is as overly easy as passing a US driving test...well, we won’t have any airplane😆 they won’t even be able to fly. Okay I don’t know where I am going with this🤦🏻♂️
You're one of the most underrated car channels. I hate that vloggers get more subscribers when you actually put effort and quality in your videos. Your videos are art and are very informative.
Maybe Mark could learn from Scotty Kilmer. Make much shorter videos and make several per week, and speak in a very irritating voice. He would get 2,000,000 subscribers. Yes? No? 🙄
Steve Printy or maybe I love both types to exist, but I know this sounds selfish.
M156 Charles There’s plenty of room. I subscribe to 25 automotive channels. 😖 I made the following comment several months ago to one of savagegeese videos.
“I subscribe to more than a dozen auto channels, but I only click on new videos that look interesting, which may only be half of them. However I will watch anything from savagegeese. I would even watch a review of a riding lawnmower, or a skateboard.”
Mark liked my comment and gave me a funny response. 😄
Steve Printy i might have more channels subscribed over the years but now I also only cared for a handful. Sense of humor, the genuine kind, combined with his decent amount of seat time on racetracks, time spent on research, makes him a convincing source for me. I’d like to see his channel grow.
M156 Charles I agree. Some that I subscribe to (besides Scotty Kilmer 😖) have way more viewers but are nowhere nearly as good as “Mister Goose” . I always watch all of the ads on his videos with the hope that it helps, and have recommended him to all my friends who like car stuff.
Another fine example of SavageGeese innovating, expanding, and improving the genre' of automotive videos...
Y'all are The Beatles of TH-cam videos
Score - 10.0
Mr. Goose's gotta race a green VW Bettle through San Francisco at some point.
Save 5-10% on your insurance premium. Most people don't apply what they learn with driver's education. These people should pay to autocross at least once in their life, really understand how cars drive under hard Acceleration, braking, etc. It'll grant them confidence, this way they won't freak out on the road in their day to day commute.
That's a very good point! Itll teach them evasive maneuvers to avoid accidents, tho now a days, too many wanna play pokemon go on their drive. They get so easily distracted they dont even learn to love the drive. One of my fav things to do in my mustang is to just roll up the windows, shut off the radio, and be one with the car.
@@jake51515 it'll make even the most amateur driver, much better at it.
I hear you with the music off, windows down thing. Being one with the car is a blast, therapeutic if you will!
@@MaxSpeedMike that's very true!
@@jake51515 If you are into banging sheep, bring it to the edge of a tall scary cliff. It will naturally get scared from the height and back that ass up as much as your heart desires.
Since 2010-11 there is a law here in Austria which states that 3-6 months ( i can't remember exactly) after getting your drivers license it's mandatory to do 2 hour long classes in which they check if you are still applying the things you learned in driving school and from the tests etc. and in between those two classes you have another day in which you do all the things you mentioned especially evasive manouvers under hard braking, understeer and oversteer mid corner and especially on a wet surface and at the end you have like a hour long group chat with a psychiatrist and talk about stats and what how accidents occur etc.
But it's a different environment and so for someone that is not from around here it may look like someone is paying attention extremely well but to a local it may look like someone doesn't know what they're doing.
I'd say that American drivers pick up easier the negative forms of driving rather than what's right and what's possitive but It's just down to lack of information and what is deemed mandatory, if your laws said you have to learn only half of what is mandatory in Germany or Austria younger drivers would be far more focused whether because of fear of what could happen in certain situations or just by learning about the subject and understanding it. However to 95% of the people a drivers license and a car is just means of transportation and so they don't understand why some people are frustrated with what they're doing wrong.
Sorry for my rant.
Mark, The quality and substance of your videos is orders of magnitude better than the vast majority of automotive you tubers. As much as I enjoy Doug Demuro’s “Quirks and Features”, Rob Dahm’s 4 Rotor Gantt chart, Jason’s Engineering Explanations, and Matt Farrah’s One Takes, I can’t help but feel like you provide far more meaningful content to your fellow Automotive Enthusiasts. The no BS, Call-it-as-it-is, this is the information, approach to your videos is so refreshing and I wish that others would look at your content as an example of what to strive for.
Thank you
Well said
LogicalQ nah this guys a dumbass.
mat farah and tj hunt and illuminate is better than this channel still, this does feel more hipsterish like petrolicious
@@lemoneggs5897 Im too old to be a hipster, grew up with the shit most hipsters think is increasingly cool that never was even in that era.
Some of doing these videos is about trying to go outside this small formula box that we all get trapped in. I hope it has some staying power long term.
I’ve been to Bondurant twice-once right after I turned 16, and once in my early 20s-and I truly believe it made me a tremendously better driver, even just for every day street driving. The amount of training you get in learning car control and the confidence that gives you behind the wheel can’t be understated.
Ditto with Skip Barber. Best to do when you're under 20 years old so you can carry those skills the rest of your life.
It's like a martial art ain't it?
I really would like to have an experience in a racing school
I think it’s something car guys should do after driving school
Real passion coming through in this video. From the instructors to the cinematography. It's fantastic to see, and we'll captured.
The answer is: what is the point of living?
There is no point, its what you make of it. There is no ultimate life purpose. The last 5 mass extinctions on earth prove it.
what is the point of living?
to drive
Racing, everything else is just waiting.
@@fitnesspoint2006 how does it feel to feel so meaningless and worthless?
Neyro Seven Word, preach brother
Shame to see this video getting so little views here...an absolute piece of gem, both when it comes to video edit and the content itself, you can actually get some knowledge to start with out of this video...
Would recommend supporting Mark on Patreon to any petrolhead, it is really good feeling when your money is coming back to you like that.
Keep it up Mark!
When my friend and I were traveling through Norway/Finland, we took a snow driving course. What started as a lark, became one of the best experiences. What I learned there, was immeasurably helpful, and life saving, at times, through the years. There is always room for improvement, and review.
I thought the Finns know how to drift right out of the womb.
kevin9c1 haha It seems that way.
Officer: Do you know how fast you were going while weaving in and out of traffic?
Uhhh: It's OK I watched the savageese Drivers Education video.
Officer: License and Registration please.
The "savageese" might earn you a breathalizer test. 😄 (If the cop knows the channel, because he will feel insulted that you didn't pay attention.)
This video should generate more business for Bondurant. For people who don’t want to splurge for the full size cars, you can cheap out for their kart instruction and go 100 miles per hour, 1 inch off the ground. 🏎 👍🏻
I believe that's how Mark and Scott learned to race.
I used to drive normally. After 2 years of hpde events I now drift into my neighborhood full steering lock every day while having full car control. The neighbors love me...😁
Because Racecar Sometimes, telling a lie is acceptable. 🤨🤔☺️🏎👍🏻
I imagine you told them you see everything and now they call you The Terminator and you believe it is a compliment. 😄
This is by far your best interview-based video. I'm not even going to ridicule the pseudo-Asian guy for his weak bottle flip game at 4:28.
Did he have a hard time convincing the instructor he was ready for driving after that? 😄
As someone that has little to no chance to attend one of these driving schools, both financially and i live in eastern europe. These types of educational videos from passionate people have made me understand a lot more than anyone around me and continue to motivate me to improve my self. And you may not get the views that you deserve, but trust me the people that you have inspirited and taught( like me) will always be grateful.
"Don't look where your going, look where you want to be going". Bertil Roos
That's a good excuse to look at a woman's behind.
Don't look at the girl you're dating, look at the girl you want to be dating. -Robbie Ezc
Ite like a finger pointing to the moon. Don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.' Bruce Lee
Also hinted at here: th-cam.com/video/4O9o4CKTGzQ/w-d-xo.html
EDIT: LOL, I posted this before seeing the previous comment.
Now I have to add some value by saying that Bruce Lee's quote is based on a statement by Buddha.
In the UK only this year was Highway driving included in your driving lessons. So many of my friends are terrified to accelerate down a slip road and I've seen so many accidents occur because of it. The point about basic driver's ed being fundamentally broken is beyond true.
Well it used to be no motorways but duel carriageways were fine which in terms of skills are very similar. Given the Mw is statistically the safest road it was hardly an issue. The fact that all drivers aren't forced to do a skid pan course is far more of an issue globally for accident rates.
@@tcroft2165 This is true, and I agree that skidpan training would be massively helpful. I do think lack of motorway training is an issue however. Motorway collisions accounted for 4% of inexperienced driver fatalities, compared to
UK too, the driving lessons and test are so minimally adequate. The most dangerous and challenging roads are the B roads, you don't even get taken out on them.
Fortunately my driving instructor was an ex rally driver, so he was teaching me about chassis stability on B roads.
There is so much to learn and so little of it, even basic car control, is not covered in the lessons or the test.
I also believe if every driver had to ride mopeds/bikes first they would gain so much visual acuity, situational awareness and more, that would benefit them as car drivers too.
The production quality of this video is amazing
32:44 new best handshake ever! ! !
I totally agree with the message, to drive with more awareness. Here in Germany drivers ed is much more expensive and more in dept but still most drivers are oblivious to their surroundings and are unable or unwilling to make the effort to think even a little ahead on their way. You could cut the number of accidents down by half if everybody would improve there somewhat.
It blows my mind to see content of such quality available on TH-cam for free. Hat doff, Mark. This channel is easily on a different plane compared to the rest out there!
The quality of your videos never cease to amaze. Thanks Mark.
This is just a beautiful video on driver’s education
It is still relevant to this day
Simply the best auto review channel!!
This is probably the best video that you have produced yet. Very professional. This is broadcast quality.
This channel is slowly becoming a bona fide entertainment network. Can't wait for the next 30 for 30
You guys continue to bring really valuable content to your channel which I rate in the top few that I watch. I spent a day on an advanced driving course and I learnt a massive amount about my driving and how vehicles behave as a result. I support the notion that every driver should have to attend an advanced driving course. Besides its huge fun.
I can't believe I didn't have to pay money to watch this
_"Some of the best things in life are free"_ is a criminal understatement and misleads people about a profound spiritual lesson.
Also... capitalism can put some detours in the path towards enlightenment. 😄
Why the hell do you only have 280k subs?! This is great, I have a lot of house stuff to pay for in the next couple years but this school is the thing I want. Great video. Great intro music and who the hell would give a thumbs down, ... just _____ I guess.
Thanks for this. Reaffirms that my approach makes sense. I bought a $400 2000 Honda Accord 5spd from Copart, just did a season of AutoX seat time/school and focusing on the driver mod. Slowly getting better (looking ahead is hard) but a low power/low tech car doesn't let you hide your bad driving.
There's so much great information packed into this video. I'll be watching it twice for sure. My brother taught me how to drive, and made me autocross within a month of getting my license. I spun out on my first corner, but I was humbled and realized how fast and unexpectdly I can loose control over the car. I really think it should be a requirement for new drivers, it'd really put a lot of speed racers in their place.
I’ve just decided on my Christmas gift: Racing School
Thanks SG!
Best gift! Especially to your kids if you have any that will be driving soon.
Anyone who watches Canada's Worst Driver knows "look where you want to go" is #1 and the best advice for driving. This is good training.
Tremendous video. I have been waiting for something like this. Your content is amazing and deserves 10x the number of views. I'm looking forward to a future video on heel-toe downshifting.
The best car to learn driving on is a manual Miata. It is forgiving of mistakes and the suspension is well suited for learning load shifting, heel and toe braking, and steering control. It is also lots of fun without the speeding ticket of a 911.
Call 911 if bullets are exceeding the speed limit.
super excited and looking forward to your driver's series! I am in that exact scenario- I am looking forward/saving up for my first HPDE, but cannot realistically afford multiple HPDE events in the year. Thanks for all you do!
Just an amazing video, piece of art to any petrol head.
I was wondering if you're an alien, then i looked closer at your pic, and it's like a cartoon
Just subscribed to this channel, for 2 reasons. 1 - production quality is fantastic, so thank you. 2 - very straight forward, no bullshit. love it. i look forward to checking out a lot more of your content
Your channel deserves millions of subscribers! Keep up the amazing work! It’s always a treat when I see a new video notification from you guys! Thank you!!!
So glad you highlighted this underappreciated topic. Adding more power or stickier tires is sexier, but equivalent money spent on your own driving skills pays dividends in making you a faster and safer driver. Half the people on today’s roads don’t seem to have the skills, focus or desire to drive properly and safely.
Your videos are the best and continue to amaze me. You cover so much information in a realistic way. I lived close to that track about 4 years ago. Heard about it and wanted to go there to learn more. Thank you for all your fantastic work and your great videos.
The Quality of these videos is second to none! Keep up the great work
This video just brings your content to a whole new level. Very much appreciated!
This is the kind of diversification from a youtube channel that actually creates a lot of utility, well worth the sub.
Thank you thank you thank you! I did a skip barber one day school with my Dad for my 40th birthday. It was intimidating at first but we loved it. Bondurant looks like the truth. I’m really looking forward to your driver series. Thanks again!
Hands down one of the best videos you have done - looking forward to seeing more of what you have learnt. I love driving but sadly I am unlikely to be able to afford to do a program like this so I am keen to gain any sort of benefit from your experience. Well done!!!
I DONT KNOW HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA OF GOING TO THE BONDURANT SCHOOL, BUT YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD WITH THIS ONE. I JUST RECENTLY TOOK MY DEFENSIVE DRIVERS COURSE & I ALWAYS LEARN SO MUCH FROM IT. I HOPE THAT YOU MAKE MORE VIDEOS OF THIS KIND OF CONTENT BECAUSE DRIVER EDUCATION IS SO IMPORTANT ESPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE WHO DRIVE IN THE NORTHEAST LIKE P.A., N.J. OR N.Y.C. THE DRIVERS ON THE HIGHWAYS OR STREETS CAN BE VERY RECKLESS. I ASKED MY DRIVERS ED INSTRUCTOR IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET A COPY OF THEIR VIDEO, BUT THEY SAID NO. I GET IT. IT’S ULTIMATELY A BUSINESS, BUT I THINK THAT IT WOULD HELP NEWER DRIVERS SUCH AS MYSELF. THANKS FOR THIS GREAT VIDEO👍👍👍👍👍
I work at spring mountain "Ron fellows driving school" in Pahrump NV. We have similar programs including private instruction as well. Come check it out some time.
Justin Holden I visited your location 4 years and no one wished to speak to me. Things have evolved?
absolutely great video. I sincerely hope more people can see this and appreciate the value of driver's education (and performance driving!)
You have a fantastic channel. Thank you for creating great, useful content to learn from, whether excellent reviews or these interesting and educational driving videos. THANKS!!
Brilliant content, superbly executed. Thanks for your unwavering pursuit in feeding the gear head.
As someone who is getting back into serious driving after a lot of years living in NYC where owning cars is basically a form of madness or extreme wealth (or both), I can't thank you enough for this video; there are great ideas within about how to help the kids in the family- including me! The last time I heel and toed was in a 124 Spyder, just to give you an idea... But the simplest point was about vision, which is great on any level.
I'm in the UK, none of my bikes or cars have been anything special, but I've loved them all. There is no better feeling than being completely at one with your machine. Flow state of man and machine together is magical.
I went in 2002. One of the best times in my life. It's in the top 2 of the most fun things I've ever done.
This video is absolutely incredible and everything I needed today. Thank you for this.
I"m an old fart who first got my license in 1977 at 16. Back then California actually had enough money to have free driver's training classes for high school students. I'm really glad I had the opportunity to learn with a school provided car and teacher. I think it was worth it and gave me more confidence.
How come you only have 284K subscribers? Superb straight forward content topped with a stunning production. My go-to car channel. Keep up the amazing work!
Awesome work Mr Geese and Co, I'm sure many of us won't have much to take away from this first video but but it's a great introduction
to a series. I look forward to the later videos. :)
Made sure to watch this after your livestream, glad I did. Awesome video!
A new savage geese video! Hell yes. I would love to go to this school.
Always go back to basics - true in so many parts of life. And not everyone even does the basics! Also you made that driving look easy at the end there. Nice!
I was fortunate enough that my Dad recognised the importance of being a skilled driver and bought me professional driving instruction and advanced driving instruction for my 16th birthday. Definitely saved me from accidents several times in the intervening 30 years. I could probably do with a refresher though - when I did the skid pan training it was just a big puddle to slide around in!
You production value is absolute fantastic, on par with the big "professionals" out there, keep it up man!
Sick video guys! I dig it. Good to see much of the stuff I have learned on my own through trial and error demonstrated so effectively here
Top notched review and thought process! Savagegeese, you leave us wanting more, the treats of a true artist, thank you!
That's by far one the best videos I've enjoyed on your channel. Super cool 👍
I’d be grateful for a video on trail braking and how to practice car control, safely, in a parking lot (not a track or school). Thank you, this is probably the fourth time watching just trying to pick things up!
I had the opportunity to do the SRT Experience at Bondurant, which was included with my 392 Charger. It was a lot of fun. Wish I could swing the multi day sessions but the one day event was still awesome. Great video! I know Bondurant just went through BK so hopefully they are able to find success and keep going for many more years.
Very helpful & valuable information here. I'm looking forward to the stand alone videos you talked about releasing down the road. Thanks for this!
Brilliant idea loving the Stereo sound stuff and cleaning vid plus this track driving piece. Keep up the great work Geese.
I missed you in Arizona. I live here and never thought you'd come here. Anyway love the video. Hope you enjoyed the "dry heat" here.
Nice job again Mark :-) excited to see the upcoming videos you mentioned
Thanks for your video !!
I grew up on a dairy farm and I was 13 or something and I would watch my dad how he was changing gears in the old Mazda b1600 column shift manual and when they were up milking the cows I would start it up reverse out for the shed and under the apple trees and put it in 1st gear and drive back into the shed and switch it off and run away before anyone seen me.. then a few years later I had like 5 mk5 cortinas and 2 mk4's so I was off up into the Forestry cutting lose drifting around the gravel roads even a heap of drunk driving, up fire breaks and river beds anywhere and that was mostly in a crashed mk5 1983 Cortina wagon 2.0L 4 speed my mate wrote off hitting a power pole.. I just loved driving hard and always pushing the limits then got into Ford escorts and anything that went wrong I'd just swap the parts as they are so easy to work on and you just look and learn.
My point is that most people on the road are lacking so much driving skills..
a home run with this video !! Good driving skills is like life, all about basics.
Excellent video Savagegeese! Was looking forward to seeing your experience at Bondurant
7 mins in, I did car limits in the UK and the first thing they taught us was the hand over hand. 20 minutes of going around a figure of 8. Sounds pointless but you've got to get that muscle memory for when they suddenly throw the car out of shape and you're trying to gather it back in haha. Best thing I did that course and wish I could afford to do another one to refresh. EDIT at the bit about looking, when the instructor got me to stop worrying about the apex once I turned in and told me to look for the exit before we had got through the apex it shaved like 0.25s per corner off. You naturally get on the gas earlier because you're ahead. It's all so true man. Just hard to learn and muscle memorise when most of the time you're on the street without your own personal track to practise on.
This video is awesome. Been waiting for someone to make a video like this
This is again such a well shot and informative Video! I agree with everything you said! I really hope to find a driving school as good as Bondurant here in Europe.
If somebody in the comments knows a place and shares it with me I would really thankful!
Great Video! I've wanted to try a driving school for awhile, this is getting me excited to go. Thanks!
Now this is the kind of geese content I look forward every morning.
Great video life is about education and the more we can learn and improve our driving skills is great plus your channel is highly underrated thanks for sharing
I might have to save up and treat my dad to one of these classes, best Christmas gift ever, of course I'd join too.
Thank you! What a fantastic video, production and overview of the Bondurant racing school!
Oh man hearing about weight transfer VS tire contact patch is fascinating. Same with the slide car. I'm only at that part now but this is such good information
One of the best videos yet! Cheers!
I always recommend autox to people that want to get into the grassroots motorsport of things like track so they can learn how to handle their junkbox around some cones and learn it at a lower speed. Because the worse that could happen is you smack a cone and DNF that run. There's also a lot of helpful people there that have more skill that can help you figure your car out and help you learn the importance of tire PSI. But of course, the first thing to do is get some actual 200TW tires and just send it. That's actually what I done and you learned quite quickly on how to drive your car fast.
The best technical review channel is going to do driving technics videos!! Savage geese your the best!!
Great video and perspective as usual. All car enthusiasts should see this... A good driving school and / or track day is an amazingly humbling experience. You think you're good until you realize that you're not and there is SO much to learn...
That's why I drive manuals, I enjoy the experience of my ride ... not two fingers on the steering wheel and eyes and one hand texting a Phone!
Automatic here. I also enjoy the driving experience, with both hands on the wheel
This has got to be the best car channel on TH-cam by faaaaaaarrrrrrrrrr. Thanks Mark
Thank you savagegeese, really enjoyed this video, looking forward for more of this content :)
That was fantastic! Going to Bondurant driving school is now on my bucket list!
Amazing production value as always!
Would love to see you do a video like this showing how to fast drive different car layouts. For example, FWD v RWD v AWD.
Amazing video as always. Cannot wait for more content!
Thank you so much for this video. It is a dream of mine to go to this school and learn more about the art of driving.
Good stuff, though for parents who can't afford a more full-on racing program like this, it's worth mention that there are other local(ish) programs like SCCA Street Survival that can help cover the sorely under-represented car control aspect of driver's ed. It obviously won't be on par with something like Bondurant, but it's a much more accessible means of getting new drivers started on building the skills required for active accident avoidance, under/oversteer correction, etc. in a controlled environment with experienced instructors (usually SCCA, BMWCCA, PCA, et al. track/autox regulars).
Great video, love the idea of a driver series!
This video came right in time literary just getting into track days!