Performance Car Myths | Fine Print Series

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  • In this episode of the Fine Print Series, we look at the problems with driving a street car on the track or in performance events. We detail the differences between dedicated race machines and street vehicles and why modifying a car can cause issues. Lastly, we provide inspection tips for the oil system and suspension and ways to be safer, whether it's a Subaru WRX, Camaro, Mustang, Corvette or Civic Type R.
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    Index:
    00:00 - 00:34 Intro
    00:34 - 1:50 The Fine Print - Because Race Car
    1:50 - 5:47 Differences between race cars and street cars, oil cooling
    5:47 - 9:27 Understanding the limitations of street cars
    9:27 - 15:00 Basic Inspection and Tips for Preparing a Car
    15:00 - 18:25 Advanced Tips and Inspection
    18:25 Final Thought and Connecting the Dots
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  • @Scott-xh7wd
    @Scott-xh7wd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +486

    Solid content bro. You didn't talk about alignments or a simple corner check. Every single time the cars come off track we remove body work or open hoods and trunks to let all the hot air out, once things start to cool perform a simple corner check.

    • @Scott-xh7wd
      @Scott-xh7wd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Don't wait until the night before an event to check your car!

    • @jwrx7tt01
      @jwrx7tt01 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      What is a corner check?

    • @Scott-xh7wd
      @Scott-xh7wd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +146

      jwrx7tt01 Jacking up the car to check each corner for bad ball joints, bushings, tie rods, wheel bearings, brakes, etc. Once the tire is off the ground grab at 12 & 6(o'clock) wiggle it, then do it 9 & 3, then spin the tire, and finally remove the tire to check brake condition. I would do that to a street car after each track day. Race cars get it done after every time out on track and once all the wheels are off, brakes get bled(depending on track time)

    • @jwrx7tt01
      @jwrx7tt01 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Scott P thanks

    • @jeffkellerman9848
      @jeffkellerman9848 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Scott P maybe alignments should have its own Fine Print episode :o

  • @amcluesent
    @amcluesent 5 ปีที่แล้ว +750

    The TRD stickers I put onto the GT86 cut at least a minute from my lap times at the Bürgerking Nordschleife

    • @RobertOfStAlbans_
      @RobertOfStAlbans_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      amcluesent well done my fellow racer!

    • @Catalina._
      @Catalina._ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      amcluesent There's no doubt that musTaRD stickers will make your GT86 more delicious to drive on Burgerking Nordschleife

    • @MozzaBurger88
      @MozzaBurger88 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Bürgerking 😂 I'm dead.

    • @xFlared
      @xFlared 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Shit now I want some burgers.

    • @davidel9466
      @davidel9466 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahahahahahahahahaha!

  • @opl500
    @opl500 5 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    Hooning for 5 minutes vs. hooning for 3 hours, got it.

  • @r129r16pfl
    @r129r16pfl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    That's why weight reduction is my favorite mod!
    Lighter the car = less stress on tires, pads, axles, clutch, all the running gear.

    • @fatboy19831
      @fatboy19831 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Changing the cat back on the BRZ can cut as much as 12 pounds. A good header will take another 10 to 12 pounds off the front end. Going with the stock size Michelin PS4s will cut 3 pounds of unsprung mass from each wheel. Almost 40 pounds cut from an 2780 pound car before you take into account the added hp, torque and cornering power. Taking 3 pounds off of each wheel improves the ride quality also.

    • @detailingdiaries6562
      @detailingdiaries6562 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      No Fat Chicks

    • @r129r16pfl
      @r129r16pfl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@detailingdiaries6562 No chicks what so ever, my car has only 1 seat

    • @philking7805
      @philking7805 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      As Colin Chapman used to say "add lightness"

    • @bobkin611
      @bobkin611 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah I need to put my car on a diet.

  • @TheStraightPipes
    @TheStraightPipes 5 ปีที่แล้ว +461

    I’m so happy you make these videos -Yuri

    • @fabianherrmann6398
      @fabianherrmann6398 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You did not prepare your Element for the track (the video with the drone shots) and that is why it failed you now ;)

    • @spinelesschivo
      @spinelesschivo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      hahahaha

    • @jobber1984
      @jobber1984 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Go Yuri Go!

    • @Catalina._
      @Catalina._ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TheStraightPipes Yuri sounds like an Asian woman's name

    • @chrisobrien6430
      @chrisobrien6430 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      But can you make it pass the visor test?

  • @FlyinGato
    @FlyinGato 5 ปีที่แล้ว +395

    People are still surprised that my new Type R overheats when I'm pushing it at the track. While it's great out there, it's still a street car, and I'm currently working hard at mitigating those problems (mainly heat management). Savage job, Goose.

    • @savagegeese
      @savagegeese  5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Yeah its always a chase the harder you drive. Let me know how it goes.

    • @marcoVGpolo
      @marcoVGpolo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      A few of my friends have Type R's and take them to the track. While the people on FB and Instagram are always surprised and sometimes blame the drivers, the people actually at the track are always understanding or shrug it off with a "turbo at the track what do you expect" or something similar. The only people surprised are the people who just have no clue.

    • @leesonneville1817
      @leesonneville1817 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I thought of the Type R when he said turbo. That Earthdreams motor takes up the whole bay, no room for air flow. I know the Type R has a different motor but still I imagine it's right in there.

    • @marcoVGpolo
      @marcoVGpolo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Type R motor is definitely right there. Even better is that a lot of the owners aren't expecting this issue as for many it's their first turbo car that they can feel comfortable taking it to the track. The heat has been a more interesting conversation than just increasing air flow. The conventional vented hood and larger opening at the front upper grill still leave problems. It's just a characteristic of efficiently compressing air literally right next to the place that you're efficiently lighting it on fire while efficiently packaging the places in the same area. You have to work around those characteristics and their traits.

    • @moriohfk8
      @moriohfk8 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've heard there's a different grille that some have been replacing it with that allows for more airflow, perhaps that may help you?

  • @positivesecret
    @positivesecret 5 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    This hurts a lot of egos who like to pretend they have race cars.

    • @JAM_2024
      @JAM_2024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      positivesecret all 205 of them so far who disliked this video lol.

    • @hotshtsr20
      @hotshtsr20 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Any car is a race car. Just different levels of capability. The nut behind the wheel is the sole determinant of its survival. Know your car. Know it's capabilities. Any monkey can drive a vehicle until it explodes, a true racer drives the car to its limits, no farther. See Top Gear's F1 driver in a cheap car series. :)

    • @hp67c
      @hp67c ปีที่แล้ว

      $12,000 engine rebuild (son)
      Why? NOT racecar

    • @absboodoo
      @absboodoo ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Every rental is a race car/ rally car.

    • @positivesecret
      @positivesecret ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@absboodoo LOL Good one

  • @chbrules
    @chbrules 5 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    It's taken me 3 years and $40k to convert my C5 Z06 to an actual race car, which included a full gut, full cage install, fire supression, rebuilding and hardening the entire driveline (engine, clutch, torque tube, trans, diff), full suspension upgrades, AP Racing BBK with spec master cyl, 3 gal dry sump and oil cooler, and aero setup. I'm still not done (probably another $20k worth needed). I check everything after every race. I check tires, brakes, and lug torque between every session. I change all driveline oils and brake fluid every 2 race events. Don't get into this sport unless you have the time and/or money to dedicate to this hobby.

    • @ianward8107
      @ianward8107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      chbrules thanks for sharing the truth. Motor Trend and Top Gear have people believe they can take a sports car or super car to a track and beat on it. It will break! You need race spec parts.

    • @Me-eb3wv
      @Me-eb3wv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dang bro thats a lot

    • @chbrules
      @chbrules 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Gentleman...Driver You're right. You don't need to start out big. Get a slower car and learn the technicals before you worry about the speed. You will appreciate how much better of a driver you will become quicker when you are less stressed about the speed on track and more concerned with hitting those apexes and keeping momentum through the turns. Take a racing school if you can. I took the VARA race school a couple years ago.
      I started with autocross and slower BMWs over a decade ago. I moved into road racing on circuits. It got to the point where I needed a dedicated race car, as my DD wasn't going to cut it, and I didn't want to blow it up/crash it on track.
      Even while building my race Vette, I basically waited till last to get to engine upgrades. I started with suspension, brakes, and tires. I put race safety in next. Then I finally went with a whole driveline rebuild for added performance. I'm pushing out about 500HP NA in my 5.7L LS6 with stock heads now. The car weighs a hair over 3000lbs.

  • @FranklySean
    @FranklySean 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Thanks, you convinced me to stick to racing games.

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      inb4 your GPU overheats because a watercooling hose came off. 😆

  • @nunyabusiness896
    @nunyabusiness896 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Everything you just said is exactly why I said "screw the whole thing" and got a race kart.
    2-Stroke race karts are whiplash-inducing fast (plenty of vids out there of them dusting Ferraris at a drag strip) and corner with more G's than all but the grippiest high-downforce formula cars. They're purpose built so you don't have to make so many performance compromises and kart tracks are cheaper and more accessible to drive on than most car tracks.
    If you plan to race, that's also easier to get into because all of the karts are built to tight CIK guidelines and the motors as well so you don't have to find a way to get an S2000 on fair terms to a Camaro to have a good race. Because of the way they are constructed, it's also virtually impossible to total a kart as you can replace any component or at least pull the motor if it's a really bad wreck. All in all, if you want to hit the track and not spend 100x as much time wrenching on your vehicle as you do driving, just get a 2-stroke race kart. Even after driving a Ferrari 458 at COTA the kart is still by far and away the better experience.
    Some people might say "but karting is expensive too!", but apples to apples it's not even close. Track day for track day karts are actually really cheap, it only gets expensive if you're touring national races that require an all-new kart every race to be competitive and then have the expenses of travel, etc., at which case a car would surely be more expensive for the same level of competition.

    • @savagegeese
      @savagegeese  5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I totally agree with you on the karting side of it. Most people aren't going to do karting nationally namely as you get older. So to store a cart and do something like seven or eight races a year is nothing in terms of cost if you're just doing some Regional events. But it's really really hard to convince casual car enthusiasts of this. In America at least.

    • @nunyabusiness896
      @nunyabusiness896 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, it's funny because almost everyone in karting spent an absurd amount of money in cars before learning about what karting had to offer, it's rare to get someone straight into karting in the US/North America. I think the main reason it's more common in Europe is that sports cars are expensive to own due to taxes and fuel costs, so karting is that much more attractive as an alternative.
      I think in time America will catch on, the proliferation of arrive-and-drive places will increasingly give people a taste that will make them seek out the faster 2-stroke karts. It's just something you have to experience to understand, people just can't mentally grasp the idea that a kart that tops out around 80 mph could offer open wheel formula car acceleration, braking, and cornering.

    • @verdict1163
      @verdict1163 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Derek

    • @vgamedude12
      @vgamedude12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sounds like fun

  • @Balo657
    @Balo657 5 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Another thing people overlook is their oil pan. Most production cars come with a wet sump system so if your car is making way more grip than stock, the oil can slosh around and the engine will oil starve, and at the end of a track day you might be out an engine.

    • @nightmathzombieethan
      @nightmathzombieethan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I remember I used to be able to turn a super tight left in my 86 Prelude and get my oil light to kick on for a second.

    • @stefanfreestylez
      @stefanfreestylez 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hey man dont break peoples hearts with logic and science if they want to beleive their golf r or civic si are racecars let them!

    • @Dcc357
      @Dcc357 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      GM says to put 7 quarts of oil in my LS1 if racing. 6 for normal driving.

    • @3star2nr
      @3star2nr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thats why you start by buying the right car... And you need a dedicated car for track days seperate from your street car. Preferably something light weight and cheap. You don't need alot of power to have fun on a track.

  • @kern417
    @kern417 5 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    Just be careful of doing the opposite (which I learned the hard way). ONLY upgrade what needs to be upgraded. Because the more stuff you throw at the car without testing what's really needed, the easier it is to build an unbalanced mess of a tin can on 4 wheels. Luckily for me it was somewhat easy to rectify, but it's too easy to overbuild your car or assume you need a mod that's actually overkill. Just like your fluids can overheat, you can end up with fluids that don't get up to temp, or monster brakes that lock up your 200tw tires, etc.

    • @revmatchtv
      @revmatchtv 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      kern417 it’s very easy to unbalance the suspension as well by modding everything without concern as to why you’re doing it. Stiffer does not equal better in many cases.

    • @SgtStinger
      @SgtStinger 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Not to mention that the geometry of the suspension is designed for the stock ride height, springs and shocks. Lowering a car could make its suspension much worse, depending on the car and lowering amount.

    • @longrifle98
      @longrifle98 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      This. This person speaks the truth. A lot of the time people upgrade trying to compensate for what they don't see as lack of skill but rather 'the car won't do x so I need y to make it do x'. Half the time, it takes understanding of the end result and translating that into the skills required to do so. When you get this understanding, you will realize how you are loading the car in order to do so and find out. I'm all about keeping it stock until the car truly does limit what I can do (after a 5 why analysis).

    • @kevinwong6760
      @kevinwong6760 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @MusicFerLife12 it's almost as if the car was properly engineered! [/sarcasm]

    • @blackonblack...9244
      @blackonblack...9244 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevinwong6760 Yep, at least 98% time other than general recalls, they usually would rectify them even when the car is over a decade old.

  • @mayamanign
    @mayamanign 5 ปีที่แล้ว +550

    Hang on a second Mr. Goose, you’re telling me that the 700lbs of fiberglass wings and spoilers I added to my base Civic are not improving performance?!!! The hell you say!

    • @vadianx
      @vadianx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      But 700lbs of stickers will blow your tires off!

    • @Catalina._
      @Catalina._ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Gorilla Jones
      Civic > POSrsche
      VTEC > PDicK

    • @mayamanign
      @mayamanign 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      iHeart GT86 {KatyCat}
      Hell yeah! “In opposite of the truth land”

    • @dlombana161
      @dlombana161 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Preposterous!!! Being serious for a sec though, this is the kind of things some of us Honda people hear all the time...so you're not alone. Along with the following:
      Want to build yourself a race car George? Sure, start from scratch. Focus on a class you'd like to compete in, gut the thing and address every single thing Mark just mentioned. Oh too much work George? OK then no racecar for you.
      No my Type R is not a race car Steve, yes I'm sure. Forget the ads it's just a street car that won't immediately fall on its face in a track day.
      You want to take your Civic EX with a CVT, slap a tune on it, 'slicks', a strut bar, and call it a Type R killer/racecar John?..ummmmmmmmmmmmmm

    • @andrewsilver9730
      @andrewsilver9730 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ramen not if you put blue stickers on the tires

  • @hank1556
    @hank1556 5 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    the Porsche assembly footage was really cool

  • @t.regnerus301
    @t.regnerus301 5 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    You're better off buying the performance you need for your application than trying to build a car it was never meant to be. I always wanted a WRX STI when I was younger and at the time I could only afford a WRX and I sunk a ton of money into it. I learned a lot, messed a bunch of stuff up, but in the end I realized I could have bought a WRX STI and a good set of tires and been way ahead.
    Live and learn I guess.

    • @fatboy19831
      @fatboy19831 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      So true.......I loved my BRZ. Unless Subaru can get the torque dip worked out. I will never own another one. It does not need a turbo or more power. It just needs a better power band. A $500 tune will wipe out the dip ...............and your warranty.

    • @vectraB97
      @vectraB97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      fatboy19831 doesn't brz have something like 205nm torque? My 1.6l levorg has 250nm torque but less top end hp.

    • @fatboy19831
      @fatboy19831 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      152 lb-ft torque @ 6500 rpm I do not know what that is in Nm.

    • @randypender2867
      @randypender2867 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Less fun than building
      Also the torque dip can be altered with headers
      If your worried about your warranty
      Get a plug and okay ecu tune
      If something breaks, put the stock tune on

    • @AzNightmare
      @AzNightmare 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      *Don't be so worried about warranty... I wiped out my warranty 3 months in. I'm not going to pussyfoot in my car for 3 years or whatever it is just because I have to retain warranty mentality hanging over my head. If I didn't trust the car in the first place, I would have both something more reliable.*

  • @ant337
    @ant337 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This has become my favorite channel. I'm glad someone out there "gets it". Over the years I have learned to appreciate the capabilities and limitations OEM design.

  • @MrHav1k
    @MrHav1k 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    The passion and knowledge that went into this is outstanding.

  • @Spaceman2484
    @Spaceman2484 5 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Man, why does reality always have to suck?

    • @ronaldderooij1774
      @ronaldderooij1774 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Because you have the wrong ideals, maybe?

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So that we are constantly motivated to envision.

  • @Vik470
    @Vik470 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    People who LIKE cars watch review videos,
    People who LOVE watch @savagegeese
    Thank you for making these brilliant videos.

  • @MrUltraworld
    @MrUltraworld 5 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Excellent points. I own a GT350R that has been tracked 4 times now. But I took it easy, I drove 6/10's. I'm not a race car driver and I'm not donating my car to the junkyard.

    • @Lateralgrip
      @Lateralgrip 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      boo! I am not a pro but handle myself well on track. I just flogged my R at road atlanta for almost 1 hour straight. I will milk every penny out of this car. Went of track T7 once not bad. I would say 8-9/10's of my ability. I also have an extended warranty and perform all my own services. To each their own but the R is one hell of a car on track and to not use it as such is really a shame. Glad you track yours. More seat time will improve your performance and confidence and undoubtedly you will drive harder and be faster.

    • @BigHeadClan
      @BigHeadClan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh very nice the GT350 sounds so sick in person, shes a keeper never get rid of her. lol

    • @MrMduchesne23
      @MrMduchesne23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I took my stock/tuned GTI on the track for 1 day. 15-minute sessions 6 sessions in the day with a 45-minute rest between sessions.
      Holy crap it was fun. But it is not a race car. Driving it at 9/10'ths while watching another guy in an Acura NSX driving at 5/10'ths post slower lap times than me.
      I had fun with loads of clean air in front of me...then I got behind a 5.0 Slow mustang on a tight track. After 1 lap my car started to overheat.

    • @kaesden
      @kaesden 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did you do the track attack event that Ford holds for owners? They guys running it are a wealth of info. It's a must go event.

    • @MrUltraworld
      @MrUltraworld 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I did go to that event. It was 2 days long and I learned a lot. There were GT350 Engineers there and I picked their brains on how to track my car properly. I learned in detail how they went about designing and building the cars.

  • @scubarubanzaii
    @scubarubanzaii 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Important facts.
    The earlier points about cooling ESPECIALLY apply to new compact and subcompact sports like the Fiesta ST. An uphill canyon run pushing it for 5 minutes in 95°F weather WILL ABSOLUTELY LEAD TO OVERHEATING.
    It’s a street car with a turbo, not a race machine.

    • @WBush-uc9pe
      @WBush-uc9pe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thermogodamnits!

  • @pacastile
    @pacastile 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another excellent video.This should be mandatory viewing for all these young people buying new cars.

  • @bradcomis1066
    @bradcomis1066 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was phenomenal! Tons of gold here. After doing lots of hard driving and such and seeing the kinds of problems other people ran into all the time this video really hits the important points. Driving a machine at the limit takes a ton of maintenance and there is no way around that.

  • @dylanw9412
    @dylanw9412 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how you're bringing the fine print series back, I always thought it was a good idea. You had one about sports cars a while back and it didn't really seem consistent. Glad to see you're rolling with the series idea!

  • @ryshask
    @ryshask 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    From back in the day when I asked you questions about oil on the fr-s to now... You remain one of if not the best auto-journalist. Thank you

  • @pabauza
    @pabauza 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great flow from general to specific details and tasks. The tone of the presentation is just right also.

  • @jason0870
    @jason0870 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a fan of the longer video, so very informative and quality info here man awesome. I am a long time subscriber and wanted to say the info, experience and knowledge you share with all of us is always top tier. Thank you

  • @nelon5234
    @nelon5234 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I was like not even 5 minutes into this video: You have made an overwhelmingly amazing video!!! We get so many false problems calling in at work. I'm constantly having to reeducate people about how to tackle problems, and not just believe the forums! Amazing video!!!!

  • @vinniecorleone62
    @vinniecorleone62 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It took me close to the 90 vehicles I've had to learn this wisdom the hard way & a tremendous amount of money, this is reality many need to listen to!

  • @ricetheories
    @ricetheories 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for your detailed, deeply insightful and enlightening content on the less spoken areas of cars and driving. As I've gotten older and gradually grown out from the more fantasy car videos, the realistic side of finances, reliability and other "boring" things that comes with cars have taken a front row in my priorities - these videos have taught me things that I've never even thought of - it must take a lot of time to produce so thanks, highly appreciate this quality content. Keep well.

  • @MuffinRacing
    @MuffinRacing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    As a parking lot racer, good points are made here. That's why I love old Hondas, they take the abuse well.

    • @mikem2253
      @mikem2253 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Pfff try the 9k cut off from the B16B type r motor. Thing was the sex.

    • @xFlared
      @xFlared 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      More like.....parking lot ricer. Sorry had to do it.

    • @MuffinRacing
      @MuffinRacing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Did you really, though?

    • @fury_769
      @fury_769 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mike M Sure. The B16B reved high and had an impressive liter/power ratio from factory. But it's still a 1.6 and there's a reason people swap it out for either a B18c or a B20 vtec.

    • @MuffinRacing
      @MuffinRacing 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The B16 also has VTEC. The B18 and B20 have more displacement so have more potential is why the B16 gets swapped out. But, the B16 is a little smaller and fits better in some of the older chassis

  • @grecopena
    @grecopena 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are so wise in your approach and analysis of performance driving. Especially appreciate taking a close look under each car to see and evaluate what matters in performance driving. I can care less if a car has apple play if its suspension is old or cheap tech and build. Great stuff and very insightful. From a life long gearhead on a budget. My fleet (ha ha) is 2002 BMW 530i M sport, automatic trans. Weekend driver plus, 2004 Porsche 911 4CS. Stock. My retirement present to myself. 10 months new to me with 115k miles. Original IMS, properly maintained. All the car I need and love it. Grandchildren fit in the rear seats. Have a great mechanic who's helping keep it in tip top shape. No tracking, but some fun driving. 3rd.... 1996 Safari Trek RV for camping and goofing off. Still runs like a top and I upgraded the suspension and brakes as the P30 chassis was so so for an RV. Appreciate all your hard and thoughtful work! Best! Greg from Huntington Beach, CA.

  • @aaronwilliams6165
    @aaronwilliams6165 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your time and attention to detail. This video has helped me greatly. Your videos are a treat educational and full of eye candy.

  • @epicurusgod
    @epicurusgod 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once again this is an amazing video. Very technical and well put. True car enthusiast right here. Mad props!

  • @ha_ha-ha_ha
    @ha_ha-ha_ha 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My honest opinion regarding your videos, is that you are so critical and objective, more than any other youtube channel. Also, the way you critique cars, the industry, business practices etc. really speaks to my mind because I’m honestly fed up of how these car manufacturers and dealers steal people’s money.

  • @taranlathrop7753
    @taranlathrop7753 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You're the best TH-cam has. Very valuable info. Love you for that

  • @FlamesOfThought
    @FlamesOfThought 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know how different a competition car is to a sports car, even from an ease of access/maintenance point of view, but you have gone to a whole new level of detail. Thank you

  • @brandonjames1606
    @brandonjames1606 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was planning to take Mom's town & country on a track day and didn't even think to check the brakes. In all seriousness great, informative video as usual.

  • @danield8528
    @danield8528 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This channel has no business being as good as it is. This man is amazing and I love him.

  • @justinturner4850
    @justinturner4850 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello from Maui! I want to to know I really appreciate what you do Mr.Goose. I’ve learned so much from your videos. Stay true to what you do because I know I can trust what you say is your honest opinion and isn’t based on manufacturer loyalty. I really like that you put the car on a lift and explain how the cars are built and there strengths and weaknesses. Nice Ohlins by the way!! With love, from the only non-Vaping STI owner in the world. ;)

  • @gardnersage2106
    @gardnersage2106 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for taking the time to make this video. I'm looking into buying a new car in the next few months/year to use as an everyday street car, that I can also take to autocross or my local track a couple times a year. I was concerned about how to keep it reliable on the street, but I feel comfortable knowing I can reference this to insure I maintain it properly, if and when I do decide to do some track days with it. Thanks again!

  • @robertseely4469
    @robertseely4469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your fine print series should be required for every 16-year old before he gets his/her license. Thank you!

  • @spidermight8054
    @spidermight8054 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your videos. Great “delivery”, great, intelligent info. Great job!

  • @apache-yaquibrown4060
    @apache-yaquibrown4060 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is cool, I appreciate your OCD. Great job with explaining specification and torque. Keep.up the good work.

  • @AnMuiren
    @AnMuiren 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another great show. It's an absolute vacation for my brain from the BS I have to bite my tongue and listen to about cars and Motorcycles.
    Thank you,
    Muir

  • @tommyandchill
    @tommyandchill 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super informative stuff, Geese man!
    I feel like this is a much watch for everyone starting out in our sport. During my last track day, I had my camber bolts loosen up on me causing my one front wheel to straighten up. Fortunately there wasn't too much camber though it did cause some fender lining rippage and minor fender damage. Ride safe, people!
    🏁👍

  • @rust3dsteel
    @rust3dsteel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always. Love the detail. Will want to add some of these points to my pre/post drive. Well done!

  • @joe718gt4
    @joe718gt4 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thats why I am sticking to arrive and drive karting for now when I have time

  • @JF-ns5zs
    @JF-ns5zs 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing information, ty Mr.Geese this will be eye opening for a lot of people.

  • @benistingray6097
    @benistingray6097 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I riped my Miata (lowered and wider stickier tires and allignment) two years long for hours at the weekends and evennings after working and all i did was just some basic stuff like oil changes, discs and pads and other wearing parts. Never had any overheatings, no leaks, no problems with the suspension parts, nothing!
    Some cars are just better build than others, and lets face it, most cars nowadays have a shit quality compared to cars from 20-30 years!

    • @brewcityboatclub8299
      @brewcityboatclub8299 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wouldn't call a Miata "well built" it just doesn't have enough weight or power to wear anything out

    • @Hman9876
      @Hman9876 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      fuckin love miatas man

    • @bocahdongo7769
      @bocahdongo7769 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Again, he clearly said that in suspension case, some car had maximum threshold above standard. You may still hadn't past the maximum load
      But still, threshold is never lie. If you modified heck out of it over that thresold, everything will turn to be wrong eventually

  • @letsgobrandon416
    @letsgobrandon416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This has me convinced I never want to track my daily.

    • @wpw4508
      @wpw4508 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did an introductory performance driving class, where we followed a lead car. An easy way to get your hands dirty: th-cam.com/video/VFJp8LboUoA/w-d-xo.html
      Or, even easier, take an afternoon car control class, which is a hoot! : th-cam.com/video/1jw6hGccYgs/w-d-xo.html

  • @lalalalalalalalalawl
    @lalalalalalalalalawl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    SG.. gift to the community. Thank you for this channel!

  • @ShepShepFT86
    @ShepShepFT86 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is why I have taken a small break from track driving. The time and money needed for pre and post maintenance was getting out of control. It's hard to enjoy when you are worried about breaking the car the entire time you are on track. Good video!

  • @2LiterFoxBody
    @2LiterFoxBody 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr. Geese, this was awesome: succinct, interesting, and enlightening. Many thanks from this rookie parking lot racer!

  • @F_r_a_n_y
    @F_r_a_n_y 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude thanks for making this. Super helpful reminders.
    I would love to see one going over every modification people make to their street car to make it go faster and whether or not it's worth it.
    Also that's a super sweet s2k

  • @benjaminwilliams3568
    @benjaminwilliams3568 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a very good and very much needed video. I get so bored and fed up with drivers who pull up next to my car and want to street light race. These are the uninformed drivers with factory performance tuned cars, these are the majority of drivers who have not had their driving reactions tested and scored based on various road conditions or problems that arise day to day on the freeways or surface streets.
    Thank you for this highly detailed video.

  • @d1sturb3d119
    @d1sturb3d119 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a beautiful video! So true about grippy tires. Grippy tires> suspension mods> bushing mods> so on and so forth... There's so much tuning. You're always tuning around compromise. A good tuner knows how to balance the mods to make a car fun. But its only going to be fun for a limited amount of time. Its so interesting! Love building my car for that reason. Takes time effort and evaluation.

  • @jeffreyb.1657
    @jeffreyb.1657 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is such an important, well done video. Thank you.
    People need to know even a supercar is NOT a race car....(it is likely less safe AND less reliable...).
    Keep this stuff coming!

  • @BarnStangz
    @BarnStangz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some REALLY great information here that applies to pretty much any type of racing, thanks for the upload!

  • @Rice_Cassidy
    @Rice_Cassidy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent Video. Very informative and full of quality tips. Thank you!

  • @fatboy19831
    @fatboy19831 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Awesome information . Thank you.

  • @vallasjo8003
    @vallasjo8003 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AWESOME EXPLANATIONS WITH EXCELLENT EXAMPLES!

  • @chbrules
    @chbrules 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Everything you said here is legit and important. I converted my C5 Z06 Corvette time trial/track day car to a full race car now (gutted, cage, fire suppression, electrical cutoff, race suspension and brakes... the whole shabang). You're absolutely right that road cars are not race cars. It takes a lot of time and money to build a real race car (or just money if you buy one). I had to rebuild my entire driveline with new, hardened, and upgraded components to last through the serious abuse I put on the vehicle now. I had to upgrade to a full 3 stage dry sump, and transaxle and engine oil cooling systems. You better keep an eye on your temps and pressures on everything in the vehicle! I constantly check over and service my car. I service all my fluids every 3 races.

  • @dennisthewalker
    @dennisthewalker 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such an awesome and informative video about putting personal car to track or autocross. Thanks

  • @rachelhilgert2902
    @rachelhilgert2902 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    just discovered your channel. you do such a great job. You should have millions of subscribers.

  • @kjduff22
    @kjduff22 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the fine print series. Great content

  • @jasongrady4964
    @jasongrady4964 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video.
    Now I get to go make some checklists, and start exploring.

  • @bill7481
    @bill7481 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work, Savagegeese! Very informative.

  • @RussellChapman99
    @RussellChapman99 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The presenter is a very intelligent guy. Watched a couple of videos on this channel for the first time. Impressive work.

  • @kajukuja
    @kajukuja 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great information! Love the fine print series!

  • @nickcramer4783
    @nickcramer4783 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well thank you very much excellent video. Must see for anyone going out on track without experience.

  • @jonathancolling2284
    @jonathancolling2284 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sound advice which I practice myself and have done for years. My car has 100,000 miles on it and has been on track 60 times during its life. Original engine and transmission because I have looked into every aspect of tuning. Top video :)

  • @andrewbryan9363
    @andrewbryan9363 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent informative video Mr. Goose! Thanks!👍🏻

  • @101TheKMan
    @101TheKMan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this series. Good work Mr Goose

  • @ato8062
    @ato8062 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice discussion.Bravo.

  • @robmunach3870
    @robmunach3870 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think this is why E30's are so popular as track cars because they take abuse so well. Honestly, my first track day in my E30 was run on 10 year old Michelin street tires. Taught me a shit-ton about car control. Most track junkies would benefit from running crappy, low traction cheap tires. If they made it mandatory that you run shitty tires, it would keep the costs and abuse on the car less and would be more fun IMHO.

  • @charlesbilodeau6916
    @charlesbilodeau6916 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love to see you smile and be happy like that 😊

  • @samaccurso
    @samaccurso 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great advice, hope everyone understands always better to be extra safe than really sorry.

  • @Are_Pee_Gee
    @Are_Pee_Gee 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic information. TY Mark!

  • @devilsbox
    @devilsbox 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You and your videos are a treasure, man. Thank you!

  • @DerrickMoy
    @DerrickMoy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Getting a PDF of all the torque specs. is probably one of the best ideas ever.

  • @moeanthony9308
    @moeanthony9308 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great vid Mark. That is some camera that you are using. Such clarity.

  • @AnthonyJ350
    @AnthonyJ350 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Realistic perspective and important factors people should factor.

  • @rightfulhare6861
    @rightfulhare6861 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work. Excited for the s2000 series.

  • @DimaGT
    @DimaGT 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done guys. Solid points that are truly relevant.

  • @hpa101
    @hpa101 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Some fantastic often overlooked knowledge here - Taz.

  • @darcygoesfast
    @darcygoesfast 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I run a pen mark on torqued bolts and the oil filter to more easily see it they back out, check for rim damage or small fractures that could lead to failure, torque wheel bolts to spec once the wheel has cooled somewhat to prevent stripping threads. Another great video with sage advice.

  • @manitoublack
    @manitoublack 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Totally have had an oil drain plug fall out... I cut the engine as soon as the light came on. Was lucky enough to do no damage ;) Great same / practical advice.

  • @power_of_r6033
    @power_of_r6033 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, very good points were made. Keep it up SG👍

  • @grimey5.565
    @grimey5.565 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video keep up the good work. Highly informative.

  • @alfs8
    @alfs8 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative and honest video, obviously you track a lot of times and have your own experience, same way I used to do, thumb up.

  • @longrifle98
    @longrifle98 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! As a fellow S2000 track rat (I do Time Attack), I go through the checklist before the season starts and usually 2-3 times mid season to make sure I'm still ok. I replaced all my subframe bolts (known to elongate) but forgot to measure before and after. I'm also getting to the point where I'm bottoming out my stock suspension and seriously need to look into mitigating the stress I'm putting on the chassis in the corners. I threw in ducting for the brakes and likely an oil cooler next.

  • @uspnightfire115
    @uspnightfire115 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I like how you pointed out things people should look out for and why it's worth looking. I feel there are certain cars that it will apply to more than others as the average sports car isn't meant for loads of track use, but cars like the GT3RS have been developed as so track focused and sharing the mass majority of their parts with the Cup car, that there are those exceptions to a degree.

  • @whouse7
    @whouse7 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I like how you stopped the music when you began talking. Well done, great format!

  • @davidcordes9283
    @davidcordes9283 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 55 it seems odd that I take up track racing but I have always had a desire to try it. Your video has been informative and I am grateful

  • @barron204
    @barron204 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Learning enough to change my mind on car ownership.

  • @OffroadNow
    @OffroadNow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, and very accurate from my experience!

  • @nacholivre3327
    @nacholivre3327 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great and reliable information for the consumer.

  • @RealButcher
    @RealButcher 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks! Very good talk and gives a lot of insight.

  • @BurnDuration
    @BurnDuration 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff! After I torque a critical fastener to spec, I will often take a paint pen and mark the bolt head such that when I make a quick inspection in the future I can quickly see if that bolt or nut has loosened. Driveshaft bolts, bell housing bolts and suspension bolts come to mind as all of these are exposed to both vibration and impulse loads.