Tommy Steele's TS V: Integrally Suppressed 9mm Carbine
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Thanks to a friend in South Africa, we have a chance today to take a look at one of the five prototypes of Tommy Steele's TS V semiauto carbine. This thing is completely ambidextrous (including swappable ejection ports), has an abundance of safety mechanisms, and an integral suppressor complete with massive barrel venting to (in theory) reduce muzzle velocity on standard 115gr 9mm ammunition below the speed of sound.
Steele had begun his military career with the British Royal Marines, before moving to Rhodesia and joining the Rhodesian Army. In 1980 he left the country and emigrated to South Africa, where he joined the SADF, working as an armorer. He began work on this design in the mid 1980s, but the TS V guns were not actually produced until 1996 and 1997 in South Africa. He was unable to find a financial supporter for the design, and thus it never went into series production. All five existing prototypes vary in their details, and this the the first of them.
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Once again, South African arms development creates the perfect sci-fi movie prop
It does look like something that would pop up in a south african sci fi movie.
CliffRacer kinda reminds me of the spec ops smg from Halo 3 ODST?
District 9 with its white painted bullpups 😂
great gun for space marines in some mid 80's-90's horror sci-fi. 1st thing I thought when I saw it
arachnixon Funnily enough, the main workings of the gun remind *me* of the bolt pistol from Warhammer 40,000!
With a name like Tommy Steele he was already setting the bar too high
iLLeag7e sounds like a C-list pornstars name😂
@@chrisalbrecht2894 Or Britain's first ever rock and roll star. Because that's literally the name of Britain's first ever rock and roll star.
Almost as good as the Lamborghini test driver Max Venturi.
He did steal something in the end 🤣
He was just trying to make arf a sixpence.
This is probably one of my favorite channels. No clickbait, no misleading thumbnails, no stupid showoffs, no bullshit. This man just calmly goes to buisiness. Extremely clear and professional. Kudos to you Ian
i dont really think any of these type of comments ever get read by the content creator lol pretty cringe either way
Cept for the stupid bullshit, I like those guns, it's like they were drawn by 5 th graders that were told to draw a gun that would kill everything
Entertaining to see either way
@@sceriteri4157 He does read the comments sometimes though, plus this isn't cringe it's rather wholesome :)
@@sceriteri4157 th-cam.com/video/tR1nHnEL3PM/w-d-xo.html
When you start the story with 'he fled to Rhodesia under unknown circumstances', you know it's going to be a good one. Hehehe...
Last time I cheked we call it Zimbabwe... ;^)
@@rafadylewski7190 more like poorabwe
@@rafadylewski7190 Good one man.
@@rafadylewski7190 "Do we/?" ;^)
@John Sutton
Yup, that extreme hyperinflation, mass starvation, and mass poverty sure are better because "muh raycism"
"There are some interesting things about this gun"
#1: it balances on it's magazine.
I know right, I was looking at it like "wow that's neat"
ARs do that too, kinda
@@thegoldencaulk2742 not effectively. My experience with the M16 has mixed results on using the mag as a bipod... it pivots too easily.
My 7.5" AR Pistol does that wonderfully.
@@Raymo2u it might just be the steel mags we use in the army. The corner of it isn't great for keeping a stable aim after each shot.
South African armourers are like Dwarves,creating weird and wonderful weapons of war
@@TheFissionchips more like commie goblins
@@TheFissionchips lol, are you sure you're thinking of South Africa? Don't believe everything the media tells you is all I can say
@@aker1993
Goblin Slayer: Did someone say goblin?
I wonder what is their equivalent of the Mjolnir
@Bad Cattitude Yeah let's tone down that racism there buddy.
Me : why does this thing looks so weird ?
*ian mentions its from South Africa*
Me : ooooh thats why
Josue Mendez it’s somehow so ugly it’s beautiful...
Fricken space guns man
It's a pre production model.
South Africa: the Florida of weapons development
I think at this point, somebody has to say "fookin prawns". I'm not entirely sure what it refers to, but I understand it's traditional.
"Please shoot it. Please shoot it. He shoots it!"
calm down vault-boy
@@robrocksea Robert losey more like Robert loser
that gun sounds so quiet on the video that when Ian first shot it i thought it was misfiring
yeah and he still isnt happy and says its too loud... lol
It looks like it will only require a brush to clean the silencer
I'm assuming that it's just the camera messing with the sound
Jebi Se it's the camera auto adjusting the loud noise. It's always going to sound louder in person than on camera.
Gun sounds and microphones get along in a really weird way. Or is it the compressor?
Met Tommy Steel at a shopping centre today in Cape Town. He is a true living legend!
Like what
He is in CT now?
@@francoiswilliams yep. Such a funny guy. His life stories are brilliant.
Has he watched this video?
@@faizahmohdfauzi1584 He was the one who told me to TH-cam him so I presume so!
You know it's from South Africa when it looks like something the Terminator would list among things like an Uzi 9 MILLEMEDDA and a Phased Plasma-rifle in the 40 watt range
I've always found that funny, because that description refers to an unbelievably pathetic "weapon". If we assume the power in each shot is 40 W, and the shot delivers that power to the target in 1/10th of a second, that is just 4 Joules of energy. To put that in perspective, to deliver that amount of energy, a typical 5.56mm bullet would have to travel at just 12 m/s, or 43 km/h. So basically, the Terminator Plasma Rifle delivers about as much energy to a target as you would get by just throwing a normal bullet at somebody.
@@anzaca1 15 milliwatts on a laser can burn skin apparently
@@anzaca1 Personally I always assumed that the watt-range was a weird plasma rifle convention that only referred to the magnetic containment/shaping output range. Kind of a weird convention even for fictional weapons. Maybe because the plasma source was originally generated separately from something much larger and more powerful?
Many times when i see an 80s or 90s South African gun all i can think about it's District 9 and Chapie.
And Gunnar, apparently
Chappie was awesome
did he mean District 6 ?
@Derrick Flyr Yeah, they're part of a band called Die Antwoord. Lady Gaga almost had them open for her but they said no because she was a stuck up prick
Derrick Flyr isnot his woman is best friend. shes dj muggs girl. ninja had to correct eminem on that lol
That is a reaaaAAAAaaally cyberpunk looking gun.
That or - depending on the angle - something from Star Wars.
@@jochenwenzel8878 I see what you mean but I don't know. The two rails, really chunky barrel, being all black, the folding skeleton stock and being a suppressed SMG screams Cyberpunk to me.
A Shadowrunner has deffenetly geeked a mage or two for a Mr Johnson with that gun.
It looks like one
This is a real life gun. Cyberpunk might look like this, not the other way around lol
@@FairlyUnknown The snek hek are you on about?
Not bad at all for a 40 year old prototype and even with the mag blip, seemingly more reliable than a number guns on sale today.
~20 year old prototype, ~30 year old basic design.
That bolt was a thing of beauty. Small, clean, self contained, no obvious springs and nothing to fly off and get lost.
Well, apart from that bit broken off. Also, oh, you need this left handed, flip the assembly, reinsert and close, now functional. Really smart design. Man deserves credit there, shame the rest of it, suppressor doesn't seem to live up to that.
South Africa always makin cool lookin guns.
No arguments here!
Cool-looking, but rarely good.
@@anzaca1 You're just mad about the world cup
@@anzaca1 rarely good??? watse kak praat jy?
I never knew Tommy Steele was so multi-talented: singer, actor, author of children's stories, and now I discover a gun designer.
A true Renaissance man.
Excellent trolling. You had me hitting the google machine hard. LinkedIn says he was also a graphic designer, asset manager and a pastor at New Life Baptist church
He stole a bag of G3 push pins, this guy was clearly a nut case. After it malfunctioned the first time I didn't even think it was firing after that. Pretty cool to be honest.
Makes sense in my head, it's one of those parts small enough to grab a decent volume and useful to already have no matter what. Or he just had some strange fetish for them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
“You can’t shoot me for stealing your push pins if your rifles are falling apart because I stole their push pins”
@@TheShadowcompany1The same way that you can steal an entire unit’s MREs, replace them with a bunch of Vomelettes and not worry about retaliation because they are too busy eating it on breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Funny enough it was a well thought out design for the day. Many safety features, looks very robust for combat, simplistic but soundly made. Added optic and accessory mounts which was way forward thinking for the day. I'd say this guy was well ahead of his time.
Don't forget the interchangeable magazines.
Man, I love South African guns!
If you ignore the stock and barrel section the gun looks alot like a MAC-11 though.
_And it's cyberpunk as hell_
Just give it an EOTech sight, a laser sight on the handguard and maybe slap and electronic ammo counter on the side and voilà!
Yeah same thoughts exactly. Almost certain there was some "Inspiration" from the MAC.
Next Cyberpunk 2077 gun.
TheOtakuComrade let EOTech sights die pls
YES. It looks very futuristic, but like what people in the past imagined the future being like. Exactly cyberpunk and I love it
88th like 👌🏻
I know it's another piece of expensive equipment to remember to take with you and get on camera, but I always feel like we need to see a decibel meter whenever someone uses suppressed weapons on video.
You should try and get your hands on a AS VAL. that would be a really cool video.
Need to go to Russia for that, none of those are outside the country. Now it's actually easier, the civilian version with fake supressor is sold for about a year already.
- Now we have enough trophy val-s, and vss-s from dead russians in Ukraine. Hope that you'll cooperate with our gun lovers somewhere. You're welcome. (sad, but this is not my personal suggestion)
@@PredatoryQQmber LMAO.
@@hztn yeah, tell me about "angry Russians" after UAF tried to kill me and my family.
@@teodoreberbach3651 chocolate factory man needs more money.
"one of only 5 made" and suddenly I felt better. Thought I was a disgrace being a saffa and never having heard of this before. Thanks Ian, great video of significant interest to myself.
Most guy's, when they get out of their country's military, usually will try to make off with their ruck-sack, their wooby cover and a case or two of MRE's...
Tommy Steele: "*[pant, pant] G3 push-piiiiiiiiins!!!*
He technically stole less than most.
There was a guy in the 70s in the Israeli army that took his tank home, and had it in his shed until 2006s amnesty return, and drove it to an army return point. And walked away no questions asked while everyone's jaw hit the floor
@@callsignshulei229 “How did y-“
“Ah, ah, ah! ☝️ No questions asked!”
“I… thank you sir”
Rhodesia was a mess. A very big mess. But this guy had a vision with those pins!
@@Abdega "No questions asked!"
The senior junior-enlisteds: *salute*
11:43 "That's still actually kind of snappy and loud." At least via video, it's the quietest firearm I've ever heard. I didn't think it had fired at first and it sounds quieter than Ian's voice.
The camera must have an auto-gain feature to prevent clipping at high SPL.
Looks like an 80's sci-fi gun.
@Léo Mutombo I'm sorry i don't speak french.
I must say that's the most simple and ingenius reversible ejection system I've seen
This gun, when viewed from certain angles, almost shares the same look as the Kriss V. Loved it, especially how it perfectly balances on its magazine.
"Tommy Steele is one of the more +colorful+ characters in South African and Rhodesian gun design"
*Collar pull*
Really cool - it's a bit unfortunate that you can't quite understand how loud it actually is since the camera doesn't pick it up. It would be kinda cool to get a noise measuring instrument to be able to compare this to say a .22 LR - because if you say borderline safe to fire without ear protection i'm thinking of the sound of a .22 LR bolt action.
He just needs Garand Thumb's microphone equipment. Every GT video sounds like you're right there with him.
Why does everything South African looks like it came straight out of Halo or Alien? I love it.
A decibel meter would be nice addition for videos on suppressed weapons. Thank you for all your hard work.
THIS 1000 TIMES!
Yea that'd be smart
This is probably one of my favourite weapons youve showcased. Something about its craft made quality but also that its very feature complete and also looks very handy. I guess i could say that ive seen mass produced firearms that inspire less interest and confidence
Thank you
I had the privilege of meeting Tommy over a cup of coffee this morning. Truly a lovely man with an interesting life story and a wonderful sense of humour.
Love this channel I hope more people come to appreciate the historic look you're able to give us into the unique history of firearms engineering.
I would love to see this gun get more popular in media tbh. It looks awesome IMO, and has some sick functionality. With that level of semi-simplicity and ambidextrous ability, it could be fixed up into the standard firearm of a fictional military or police force easily.
Love this channel, very well explained n motivational to build my own
Flippable bolt for ambi: freaking genius in its simplicity....
Thank you , Ian .
Welcome to Forgotten Weapons, where you can see 1 of 5 ever built in the world firearms at the range. So cool that these are able to be fired and that you capture video for them!
I know Tommy Steele personally. There was nothing vague or mysterious about his move to Rhodesia - just for the record.
I think cecil rhodes himself established some really good reasons for everyone to be cunning of brits moving to rhodesia
The G3 pins part cracked me up real good:D
I haven't ever seen such a strange barrel and shroud combination in a gun. I think the ideas behind it are worth revisiting someday.
What a neat little gun.
This would be perfect for Fallout!
South Africans make amazing weapons that are super space age. That looks like an FMG-9 from 2200.
The microphone must have auto-clipped the audio from the shots, because from the viewer’s perspective that thing was no louder than a mouse’s sneeze. Very cool piece of firearm history. Thanks for sharing.
I met Mr Steele the other day at the shooting range i work at. unbelievable guy with some unbelievable stories. Never knew about this until after our conversation.
South Africans really do design the best-looking weapons, absolutely
I'd prefer the term "unique". They're pretty good looking but slme are so ugly it makes them beauties.
He was British.
@morton christie Personally speaking pal, I always say, give credit where its due, regardless. But hey, that`s just me.
@morton christie Was I wrong?
Why not buddy?
Another masterpiece of South African wakandan based tech
Love this thing, it really has that whole c1980s retro-futuristic look to it.
By far my favorite type of video, unknown sub guns! Thanks Ian
When you said "He stole only one thing" I wondered whether it's customary to steal from the military when finishing service.
We could hand in a list of items that we "lost,, during service so you don't have to give it back. This is pretty much expected and you won't get into any problems for that as long as you don't keep too many or too valuable items. Friend of mine when he was honourably discharged kept a hat, rucksack, his boots, an army knife, several pieces of clothes and other utilities and nobody ever mentioned it.
awesome video, as always! When it comes to live firing though, I really suggest you use an external microphone + mixer. I really want to get a feeling for how loud silenced guns actually are. :)
I would love to have one of these, seems like a slick little piece of kit
man that looks super heavy duty,
Tommy Steele? The drummer from Sex Swing?
I missed you and your jokes in the comments sir.
I thought of Tommy Steele who starred with Cliff Richard in 'Summer Holiday' ...
Damn, glad I'm not the only FH/FW crossover fan.
Oww, don't worry Funhaus fans are everywhere.
TheGoldenCaulk glad to see us funhaus fans here
"Still kind of snappy and loud" - I'll take your word for it. The gun sounds incredibly quiet on video.
I have met Tommy, good guy. I got to see the latest TS and it is a awesome rifle. you should contact him and ask to do a show on the new TS.
Another great video, brilliant stuff !
Great video as always, Ian.
But, I would strongly suggest that you invest in better sound gear, because this video really highlights an issue with sound, more so than the others. I honestly couldn't tell if the gun was firing or not lol
Hey there
Bruh. 😁🤣
The man the myth the legend
I spilled beer out my nose when I saw your name.
@Andy Williams that's a strange place to keep it, why wouldn't you use a bottle or glass to store it instead? Seems a bit silly
Personally I think this looks kinda cool. Lots of really neat ideas in there, too! Thanks for the video.
You said it was actually "snappy and loud". I've heard weapons make more noise being dry-fired. If it weren't for the blur of the empty brass being ejected one could easily think that you were dry-firing this weapon.
The sound really don't translate accurately onto camera.
Probably the quietest gun I’ve ever heard
Imagine if the NFA wasn't there and the private sector could make amazing suppressed and slick looking guns.
That looks really cool. I really like that look
That looks Beautiful!
Ah honestly I like more Tommy Steele's work when he was playing drums for the band Sex Swing....
I remember using these in my days fighting the Covenant on Harvest, Earth, Reach...
Tommy Steele is still around and runs Deep South Gunsmith Services in Fish Hoek in Cape Town.
That thing is actually really sweet. I’m pretty impressed with it, especially since that was #1
Absolutely love this, such a cool design, reminds me of a weapon from aliens, super interesting quirks and features, definitely a functional weapon I could see myself running drills etc with, very cool
Son of a welrod! I thougght it was misfiring.
That's one of the most '80s-looking gun ever. It's now one of my favorite guns.
this is a very handsome good looking carbine .. really is ... and contrary to what you said it seem dead silent to me and it has almost zero recoil ... perfect carbine, wish i had one of those, thanks for sharing this beauty
That thing looks like a prop gun bolted together from a bunch of gun lookin stuff for a budget 80's action movie.
Sound pretty quiet to us. Your voice seems louder.
Most cameras are very poor at capturing loud sounds.
I'm thinking the audio he's hearing louder is the clang of the open bolt snapping shut. It's the same with the M16, where the sound of the bolt snapping shut rings left handed shooters' ears.
what kind of wasteman would steal only push pins. Like I'm just picturing Tommy Steele walking off his base for the last time, pockets completely full, getting searched and the guard pulls out his pockets and hundred of pushpins tumble out
Literally the perfect Fallout gun.
Suppressed 9mm SMG. Designed for DIA Tac-Teams for use in covert domestic operations.
looks like borderlands gun :3
Borderlands is a game where you could stick a knife on a automatic pistol with a drum mag
Blue Quality Vladof Resolute Fighter with Vladof grip and scope. vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/borderlands/images/e/e8/VladofRare.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121204110806&format=original something like that, but you need Resolute prefix for stock :}
5tark I was thinking the same thing, maybe it was the clip
Can we all agree that south Africa makes some of the coolest guns out there?
i am impressed with it's concept and purpose
this man is really running the 12 bullet mag on the fennec...
This smg looks like it came from an 80s cyberpunk movie or something. The same could be said about other firearms from South Africa as well.
This gun would fit well in Star Wars, like The Mandalorian or something.
Damn south African made a lot of weird fire arms
love it , thanks Ian
Also you got my mind blown with the barrel, never know you could drill holes on a barrel and still make it work... I guess the round seals the chamber and prevent the gas leak before the projectile.. Very educational
That's the R-101's grandpa lol
Just to let you know that Tommy Steele was not his real name.
It was his nom de guerre. Tommy Steele was a 1950's British- pre Beatle rock and Roller.
Tommy Steele is my real name .
The pop star you refer to used my name as is stage name . His real name was Tommy Hicks.
thing looks absolutely awsome!
I'm still impressed with how quite the gun is and it has like no recoil.
Designer suppressed the gunshot but forgot to suppress the gun, it sounds very rattly inside.
moosemaimer Well lad. Ya shouldn't forget it was still a prototype.
And the disciple said unto Gun Jesus, "Lord, why dost thou bring a thing of evil before us?" Gun Jesus smiled upon him, "Why for dost thou say that this is of evil my son?" The disciple suspected that doth be an arse yet he saith unto Gun Jesus, "For it be black with the foldy shoulder stocky thingness and it doth have integral quietitude and a full-semi-auto button yet not a full hoooowaaaaahhhhh button." And Gun Jesus did look upon him sternly which made for a small squirt of wee-wee to make it's home within his undies and saith, "This doth not be a thing of evil for those that say that guns being of black are evil incarnate , I say that they doth talk out of their rear ends for they know not what they do and I wilt not asketh my father to forgive them." Chastened, the disciple saith unto Gun Jesus, "Was this gun of Tommy Steele designed by the 1960's British singer?""What kind of disciple be you?" snappeth Gun Jesus. "A stupideth one?" askethed the disciple and the wrath of the Lord was averted for he did decide to take the semi-auto black fun machine, which didst look as if it be designed by a 1970's Dr Who prop-man, to the range and chucketh some rounds downrange whilsteth imagining that the steel be the disciples face. And Gun Jesus didst this and all was quiet within his soul. Amen.
amen
Amen
Blastphemer!!!! You have forgotten the most holy of firearms the M1-GARAND.
Seth Houston away with schismatic heretic!
Yes!
That has got to be my favorite gun I've seen ya show
This gun deserves a Doug Score with all its quirks and features.
You made me snort my coffee with that comment!
#CyberPunkAsFuck
*Cyberpunk 2077 intensifies*
I seriously thought this was a Storm Trooper blaster.
This weapon looks so cool
That's an interesting gun. Thanks for the video.