"HES A FUCKING PLUMBER WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING" "I fixa da toilets :)" Great video mate! Your passion makes this type of content sound actually fun again, and most DEFINETLY makes me afraid for the next soul that will have to face Mario 0_0
Who knew that Chris Pratt could one shot Goku. Cool video, I think seeing another famous Nintendo character getting powered scaled would be cool if I had to choose I would go with the Pink Demon Kirby.
Mario on his way to one-shot a universe-eating demon god and he finna be like: *"Ahhh, spaghetti~"* 🍝🍝🍝 Bro solos your favorite verse without even trying and its *NOT* even close💀☠💀☠ 😭😭😭 Amazing video, would love to see you do more characters like maybe Minecraft Steve or Sonic
Thank you for showing such a great respect thread towards Mr Video Game himself! You went very in depth with all of this and I overall agree with a large part of all of this. Thank you very much, WAHOO!!!
A few things I want to point out is While the Outerversal Mario is possible with this or matter splatter galaxy I personally put him at complex multiversal as remember he beat most of those enemies in base form so adding his more forms like the invincibility leaf or super bell cat from on top of that. plus with the bottomless gloves he would constantly be able to reset and use any power ups as many times as he wants making it impossible for him to run out in mid battle and as for the Paper Mario crossover Honestly, you could interpret it as a fictional version of Mario coming to life in-universes As a creator himself, Miyamoto did stated every Mario from every game is the exact same one even pointing out the Mickey Mouse that and we see other paper Mario characters appear outside the series and vice versa heck it’s even supported in the Japanese version as Mario’s story Implying it to be adventures he’s already gone through and we’re just playing it though the reader if that makes sense. The only debatable one for the canon is the Mario and rabbit games but if we are allowed to add them than that would just adds Rayman’s own infinite universes to the mix but again that’s debatable but still I agree if everything else.
Just gonna mention that if you attack midair with Mario in Mario + Rabbids sparks of hope (only he can do this) he just hovers there for a minute while raining down hell on his enemies. He just stays there midair so he basically just doesn’t care about gravity anymore.
This is pretty cool. Making me curious that if you're taking suggestions for more powerscaling videos, how about Bowser next? And maybe for some future ones, Steve and Terrarian. It'd be nice to see what Steve gets since I don't know much about all the official bedrock add-on packs but I know at the very least he would get Dungeons stuff.
Just saw this in my recommended after watching Bowser vs Eggman DB. Love the Mario respect! Recently been feeling sad that people kept saying Mario’s weak and barely a building buster. Its a nice and detailed video, respect!
I’m suprised you didn’t mention stuff like Matter Splatter Galaxy, the Painting Worlds, the Cutout Realm, the various parallel/alternate and higher dimensions, etc. Also, I agree, Mario beats Goku
All of this is without even TOUCHING anything related to Mario-Kun. (I hope you maybe make a somewhat shorter follow up for THAT creature) Yeah, Sonic is screwed, no doubt about it. I personally EAT this stuff up. I’ll use Culex (and his 3D rematch for better simplicity) like it’s jam on toast and have been an avid spreader of the fact Mario absolutely does beat Sonic in a fight.
Oh my gosh y'all can't keep the words "sonic" out your guys mouth, why do you think there's always arguments about this cuz random ass people you can't shut up
Paper mario is canon to Mario, just paper mario is a story book version of Mario's adventure and i think paper jam kinda made that universe self aware they're just made of paper
Something that concerns me about some of these feats is I’m sure at least one of them had an enemy nearby to compare to. Without Defend Plus, a Goomba can deal one damage to Mario. At the same time, he takes no damage from the cannon launching him faster than a rocket and the subsequent crash into the moon. Either he can nullify non-attacks like friendly fire or a Goomba does more damage than they let on. I couldn’t live in a world where Goombas outcompete other mooks in strength.
Those are what we call Anti-Feats, and they are generally thrown out when analyzing a character in a Vs Debate. Otherwise you get things like Superman losing to Batman or Goku getting one tapped by a weak little laser.
@@aidanhammans9337 We do not, but typically in a Vs Debate, we would give characters tools and weapons that they have used even if they currently do not have them. Like if we were scaling Kratos, we would give him all the stuff from the Greek Era GOW games despite him losing all of that stuff by the time GOW4 roles around.
If the likes of Boo can Survive getting chucked into a Black Hole (Black Hole Boogie) I'm sure Goomba scaling above Moon level, as crazy as it sounds, is normal. Plus, Goombas are more Powerful than you think. While they can't defeat Mario they can definitely tank a Couple of Blows before they give in. Think of Paper Mario's Partners for example.
Not sure if you’ll bring this up but sephiroth’s final smash in smash bros is a fudging suoernova, which Mario can survive no problem as long as he’s a low percent, sometimes he’ll even just take a nap and not move at all.
Mario does actually have a canon as games do reference each other. And spin offs and RPGs are a part of that canon too- (maybe not paper Mario tho) This just makes his feats more valid when power scaling and using him for matches.
Mario CAN beat Goku 😍Mario scales High hyper-Outer and another casual immeasurable speed feat is Mario transcending time and space getting him to 5D with immeasurable (obviously can scale him higher but that’s a lowball)
Yap session incoming: I like to imagine that when the events of the first 3 Paper Mario games (or at the very least the first one) were written in a book in the verse, they inadvertently created an entirely new universe that the Paper Mario from the recent games in the paper series resides in (as well as all of the other paper characters, of course). Hence the events of Paper Jam and why Paper Mario was separated from the “real” Mario. None of this is directly stated or anything but it’s something I think makes a lot of sense. Also this is a pretty good scaling video for Mario. The only things I could think of that wasn’t mentioned are the stars being able to create entire “worlds” (though they are most likely entire universes or at the very least one shared universe) in 64. In that same game Mario fought a Bowser amped by several of these stars (or at the bare minimum one very powerful star), though you could argue that Mario was amped as well since he had been collecting many stars throughout the game (it’s never directly stated that he was amped but we know for a FACT Bowser was amped). The second thing is at the end of Galaxy 2 Bowser directly amped himself with a Grand Star and fought Mario inside or at the very least super close to a MASSIVE black hole. The last thing is the fact that in Dream Team we are shown that people can have dreams inside of dreams. So that means that there are basically an infinite layer of dreams inside of dreams inside of dreams etc. So Dreamy Bowser was most likely powered by an infinite number/layers of universes all infinite in size. I don’t think any of this really changes the final scaling of Multiversal+ - Low Complex Multiversal but it’s just more evidence to show that Mario powerscaling is simply absurd lol
You have to be some of the best researchers (in powerscaling) for bringing in mario time machine like this. Normally we give iq for that but when you get deeper into the story and gain the concept of the connections mario and others have with history. Thats broken. You earned this sub bro 🥲💯
You think Mario scaling to Outerversal WITH the Pure Hearts is insane!? In Super Paper Mario, the portly plumber actually fights and beats Dimentio IN BASE FORM (Both he and Dimentio were in a dimension that made them both stronger, so that balances out), and fights and beats his younger brother Luigi, who also fought and defeated Dimentio, and fights and beats both O'Chunks and Mimi, who are able to fight and damage Bowser and Princess Peach, who both, along with Mario himself, directly SURVIVED the power of the Void tearing a dimension asunder and were able to TRAVEL INSIDE OF IT in order to reach Count Bleck's Castle! This means that Mario can even scale to Outerversal WITHOUT the Pure Hearts!
I would like to see Kevin eleven from ben 10 scaled because Ben and his are the only ben 10 character I see scaled And I have no clue where Kevin scales
Even as a Sonic Fan I came to realize that Mario probably wins most fights so I am open to just seeing a cool fight. I have grown past my terrible judgments
Very informative, now I’ll know how to better argue in Mario‘s favor, I believe he might beat Sonic now. Can you do Ness next, he’s not as talked much about in versus compared to many other characters (obviously cuz he ain’t as famous as them) but still has some crazy and unexpected scaling.
Crossover scaling is EXTREMELY iffy, so I personally don't consider what I'm about to say legit, but here's another way you could glaze Mario. Mario + Rabbids provides some interesting implications for the cosmology, in the intro of the first game, it seems to depict a world where the events of the Mario series are fictional to them. Possibly getting to high complex multi. Not to mention the scaling from the Rabbids, considering many of those casually depict Rabbids defying meta boundaries and interacting with the real world (in the context of the games that is), possibly providing more evidence for Outer Mario, lmao. As I said, I don't consider this as those games were made by Ubisoft and they seem to have had a lot of creative control; like you would not see some of the jokes in those games in other Mario games. Plus them saying the DK series is set in another dimension, which is just clearly false as plenty of characters from the DKC series (Diddy, Dixie, K. Rool, The Tiki Tak Tribe) have all made appearances in Mario games.
You know...as someone that made his oc around Mario and tried to make a more contestant canon to Mario and his world (Which I titled Galaxuim similar to how Sonic's world is Mobius.), I didn't understand how tough Mario was casually in the games, and I added Kingdom Hearts stuff to this guy. Shoot.
I disagree with the Dreamstone holding that many universes for one I think a better way to calculate it would be how many NPC’s you see throughout the whole game because there’s no way there’s over 1 trillion people on pillow Island but also just because someone can beat a reality war doesn’t make them stronger than said reality warperit just means that reality warper doesn’t know how to control their powers properly (I do like your video, however)
12:54 Of course! He can! Don’t you remember the legendary (not really) and fun (depending on your definition on fun) Mario’s Time Machine! He’s done this shiitake before Yoshis New Island was made (but this was before ….he went in a Time Machine in MTM (in lore) but… then…how? (Whatever Time Travel is complicated (the only reason I said this is because technically you said Mario can dodge lighting bolts via Hotel Mario but then again you probably didn’t know about that so uh here’s more evidence of Mario time traveling I guess… Edit: Nvm you already know about it via 20:03 (I hope you have a good life and thank you for making this video (I saw your icon in Mario strong is Mario-plex Mario and thought eh why not and here we are me watching this video and putting this into a playlist for myself to come back to every now and again.))
Spaghetti noodles are most commonly made from grains, and grains contain fiber. Fiber, if taken in large doses, can produce a powerful laxative effect. DO YOU KNOW WHAT GOKU'S *ONE* WEAKNESS IS? All mario needs to do is to borrow a dinner blaster from the king, and he solos goku, no diff.
My personal take on the Mario canon is what Project Marioverse uses, which is every game that has been officially published by Nintendo. This means Hotel Mario is not considered canon since that game was published by Philips. Neither is Mario’s Time Machine. There’s also a surprising amount of evidence stating that even the Modern Paper Mario games are canon, such as Mario recognizing the corruption of Black Paint from Color Splash during the events of Bowser’s Fury. There’s also an Origami King-themed microgame in WarioWare Move It.
Hopefully this actually goes through. _"I am not the most experienced power scaler so if I get anything wrong please let me know in the comments, feel free to correct me."_ Okey Dokey The Mario World is mostly a High Fantasy World. In spite of what many people believe there is actually a canon to the Mario games, and a very consistent one at that. _"Paper Mario is a separate is a separate Mario."_ I don't believe this is the case and I believe there are 2 Paper Marios. The Mario Party Minigame with the Blackhole is probably situational given he can't escape Blackholes in Galaxy. Also, Blackholes probably work differently in the Mario world. How do you know that's Mach Speed? Also, he himself isn't the one moving at Mach Speed. Lightning probably works differently in this high fantasy world and can be dodged like how a Pokemon can dodge Pikachu's Thunderbolt. As for Lasers, same with the previous also hello Star Wars characters dodge lasers. I am being sarcastic but there are so many people not going at light speed dodging lasers in fiction. Where did you get this math from? It's implied he wouldn't have survived the Star Rod if the Star Spirits didn't help him. You probably can just breath in space in the Mario world since he can't breath underwater. He probably used Gadd Tech to time travel. Cappy was for SMO and Cappy would have went home. We also don't know where F.L.U.D.D. is. He doesn't own the Music Keys. He doesn't own the Purity Hearts. Bowser was probably just lying about the IQ thing and IQ tests mean thing about intelligence if you know how they work. Rosalina is not a goddess nor did she reset the universe that was the Lumas who did that. The Stars hold the Power in the Mario world. You forgot it's Mario and friends. Mario's Time Machine is not canon. Mario is not Italian or from Brooklyn.
good video but I have several questions. why you consired paper mario as canon? imp paper mario is another character different from mario and his feat should not be used on mario.second why you don't consider modern paper mario games as canon? I know they are bad but I don't understand why exclude them.
@@antonioguak647 technically all the Paper Mario games are canon as confirmed in a recent interview with Miyamoto. But what sets the recent PM games apart is that they’re all physically paper, as opposed to the OG Games where the name is nothing more than that. Plus, the newer games don’t have that many good feats when compared to other games in the Mario series. And I like the newer games, with the exception of Sticker Star
Yeah Japanese scientists use string theory to explain the Big Bang Dimentio is far from being Mario strongest opponent and PAPER Mario defeated him in base
I agree with all the rules that you lay down there's a few rules that I could add to that list and these are rules that I feel like they're very important in some people actually do miss and that is CONSISTENCY 4 a feet to be somewhat valid that feet needs to actually be done consistently and it needs to be shown at least a good amount of times for that actually be considered valet like the black hole feet insane but it's like that and then you play Galaxy jump into a black hole and you see the result it's pretty inconsistent the next rule that guy that I mean either bring up is a joke fee basically one that happens as a joke and does not end up being consistent and what I have to say about things in dream team is I feel like the first thing I should bring up is he had help with Luigi definitely say Luigi Is definitely relative two dreamstone powder Mario's relative 2 but he is not as strong as dream Luigi is considering did the game made a point and clear that Mario needed him to help him and most of the fights in that game he basically becomes a whole power up mechanic calling Mario and dear anywhere strong as saying the dream world is like trillions of universes is a huge stretch to consider that this kind of thing is only in this game and he's not really shown to be this strong in any of his other games neither probably except for the Paper Mario series everything that you said Paper Mario I give you that one I consider Mario and Paper Mario has two different characters but your argument of Mario being able to use all of those heart abilities at once Chantelle considering they have dementia could do it he can enough to take seriously mostly Mario's Castle throw escapades I mean he get through these castles but this is shown in cutscenes you can't actually do this in the game and if you could I think Nintendo probably would have made it into a mechanic I got one more very important rule to bring up and that is NO LIMITS FALLACIES I'm going to need to bring up a forum and a power up for this one and that is super Sonic white Tanuki both of these power-ups are considered indestructible but this is a problem and it's so big of a problem that cartoon Fight Club basically screwed over most of their fights by ending it in a drawer due to the fact that you're both indestructible since no one is stronger than the other they cancel each other out that death battle even death battle could not avoid this problem to avoid this the form that wins is the one that has the better seats for the one that actually has any Feats that it will even be considered even the slight Merit Super Sonic is a far stronger and better form than whites in Yuki considering that it's indestructibility is completely Bare Bones when supersonic shut down Solaris the best is skilled at 5th dimensional all three of its forums is basically as strong as the original is any all represent time as a whole 1 represents the past one represents the future I want to represent the present keep in mind you can say Silver and Shadow help out until you consider the fact that they needed Sonic for his health and even at that point basically pretty much as strong as the other and those are the that I feel there are very needed to be really good at Power scaling
I got to say, I can tell you had fun making this video. Even if I majorly disagree with a lot of, if not most of the stuff you brought up From a video creation standpoint, you did a good job. Even though there’s a lot of feats I could call into question from this video, I want to debunk one in particular because it’s the biggest argument I’ve seen for multiversal Mario and I just think there’s too many problems with it. The idea that all dreams in the Mario universe being their own universes should be false. The first scan you put up is a Mario Party 5 english translation and it’s one of two scans that people used to support this idea. If we were to take this into account, then the best interpretation you could reasonably have is that this one dream is equivalent in size to a universe. That would be fine if this was a direct translation from a Japanese statement, but I haven’t seen anything that indicates that’s the case. The second statement that people use to support this is a lot more flawed. Even though it is a direct Japanese translation, “dream of the universe” shouldn’t actually indicate that the dream is the size of the universe. I don’t even see how you can interpret it that way. This doesn’t prove any other dream is also a/the size of the universe. If anything, the “of the universe” monocle would imply that the future dream is a special case. There’s other factors that would contradict the idea that it would extend to other dreams, but this is already way too long of a comment. It shouldn't even apply to the dreams on Pi’illo island. Other than that, these are the two scans that I see tossed around to directly support these fairly weak arguments. Dreams having constellations and stars doesn’t really matter when you remember that some stars have been shown to be really small (like the Sun in Mario 3 for example) in the Mario universe. It’s also generally an outlier for Mario (even with Luigi’s help) to beat up an amp to Bowser, who normally is shown to be similar, if not stronger than Mario in terms of power level. It is especially an outlier if you want to justify the Dream Stone to be Multiversal. For the other examples you would use to scale Mario did the dream stone, I believe he’s being amped up by Dreamy Luigi in those examples. If you ask me where I believe Mario scales I say he’s generally universal with vague levels MFTL to maybe MFTL+ reaction speeds
@@theelderscout0314 I don’t know what to tell you dude. I’ve just found problems with all of the evidence with the arguments for Mario being higher. Especially with the arguments relating to dreams. If you think you can convince me otherwise, feel free to say why you believe it’s a lowball.
If I'm being completely honest I don't believe that mario is as underrated as the mario community claims if anything he's quite the opposite now a days
Base sonic defeated infinite who casually created the sun casually created another black hole that sonic out ran not mention that it took like 4 of Sonic’s past enemies to beat him in base which if you played the game you would know. And Infinite is stated in a official Sonic forces guide to be their strongest villain yet which means that if it took super sonic shadow and silver to beat solaris who was confirmed in the game to erase all time and space which is multiversal level then that means base sonic shadow and silver are multiversal level in base form. Plus the fact that base sonic fix his erased timeline in generations from a being known as time eater who also erased all of time and space granting time eater multiversal level. in base form this would grant sonic immeasurable speed. In addition Base sonic holding back in colors , almost outran a black hole but survived being sucked in it. Lastly in 06 everyone at the end (except for sonic because he was dead at the time )outran multiple black holes in base form just to find a chaos emerald. Oh and i just wanted to point out that in 06 base sonic was brought back to life just by Elise wishing with the 7 chaos emeralds. And finally in sonic unleashed after dark Gaia awakens and cracks the world in 7 pieces the 7 chaos emeralds fixed all of that by itself and Sonic in super form with the help of light Gaia defeats dark Gaia, keep this in mind that all of this was before forces happened which like I said previously that infinite is above all of that for more it was confirmed in the official guide that the phantom ruby is stronger than the master emerald which is above the chaos emeralds and infinite used the phantom ruby against base sonic and lost with the help of the extra character .frontiers happened where Sonic fights the end which is currently the strongest sonic villain in history so far and in super form sonic defeated the end along with all the other titans he battles against. And to be clear Frontiers Sonic is stronger than forces sonic which would put base Frontiers Sonic at around high complex multiversal and with the chaos emeralds super sonic would be boundless + . This is all game Sonic by the way which is canon so Mario would stand no chance against base Sonic nor super sonic there is still more proof I could add more but I don’t have the patience for this right now , so that’s all I’ve got for today 😊😊😂
Goku after seeing Mario facetank a universe-shattering blow only for him to eat a solid gold coin and be totally fine afterwards
"HES A FUCKING PLUMBER WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING" "I fixa da toilets :)" Great video mate! Your passion makes this type of content sound actually fun again, and most DEFINETLY makes me afraid for the next soul that will have to face Mario 0_0
Who knew that Chris Pratt could one shot Goku. Cool video, I think seeing another famous Nintendo character getting powered scaled would be cool if I had to choose I would go with the Pink Demon Kirby.
20 seconds in and HEY WAIT A MINUTE-
Considering you were one of my inspirations for vocal content it's an honour.
Fear the almighty Mario Mop!
Mario on his way to one-shot a universe-eating demon god and he finna be like:
*"Ahhh, spaghetti~"* 🍝🍝🍝
Bro solos your favorite verse without even trying and its *NOT* even close💀☠💀☠ 😭😭😭
Amazing video, would love to see you do more characters like maybe Minecraft Steve or Sonic
Yayayayaya a new powerscaling series! I’ve been starving for these. Thank you
Thank you for showing such a great respect thread towards Mr Video Game himself! You went very in depth with all of this and I overall agree with a large part of all of this. Thank you very much, WAHOO!!!
Oh man, one Mario would be enough to put down the One Winged Angel for good.
reference?!!
@@Cool_ICE69 Yup! A reference to the meme!
But two via his tall lankier green clothed brother (that used to look like him in SMB Bros) would be hell for the said one winged angel
@@nabbitgohome9672 Mhm!
A few things I want to point out is While the Outerversal Mario is possible with this or matter splatter galaxy I personally put him at complex multiversal as remember he beat most of those enemies in base form so adding his more forms like the invincibility leaf or super bell cat from on top of that.
plus with the bottomless gloves he would constantly be able to reset and use any power ups as many times as he wants making it impossible for him to run out in mid battle and as for the Paper Mario crossover Honestly, you could interpret it as a fictional version of Mario coming to life in-universes As a creator himself, Miyamoto did stated every Mario from every game is the exact same one even pointing out the Mickey Mouse that and we see other paper Mario characters appear outside the series and vice versa heck it’s even supported in the Japanese version as Mario’s story Implying it to be adventures he’s already gone through and we’re just playing it though the reader if that makes sense.
The only debatable one for the canon is the Mario and rabbit games but if we are allowed to add them than that would just adds Rayman’s own infinite universes to the mix but again that’s debatable but still I agree if everything else.
Mario + Rabbids has been explicitly confirmed to be non-canon by the devs.
@@mushroomfusion245appeal to false authority
Rayman doesn’t have infinite universes
But Mario + rabbids does give the cosmology infinite universes with the extra zones and the tower of doom
Just gonna mention that if you attack midair with Mario in Mario + Rabbids sparks of hope (only he can do this) he just hovers there for a minute while raining down hell on his enemies. He just stays there midair so he basically just doesn’t care about gravity anymore.
This is pretty cool. Making me curious that if you're taking suggestions for more powerscaling videos, how about Bowser next? And maybe for some future ones, Steve and Terrarian. It'd be nice to see what Steve gets since I don't know much about all the official bedrock add-on packs but I know at the very least he would get Dungeons stuff.
I always tell people mario is super powerful but they never listen, prehaps now they will listen, lol
Just saw this in my recommended after watching Bowser vs Eggman DB.
Love the Mario respect! Recently been feeling sad that people kept saying Mario’s weak and barely a building buster. Its a nice and detailed video, respect!
I’m suprised you didn’t mention stuff like Matter Splatter Galaxy, the Painting Worlds, the Cutout Realm, the various parallel/alternate and higher dimensions, etc. Also, I agree, Mario beats Goku
All of this is without even TOUCHING anything related to Mario-Kun. (I hope you maybe make a somewhat shorter follow up for THAT creature) Yeah, Sonic is screwed, no doubt about it. I personally EAT this stuff up. I’ll use Culex (and his 3D rematch for better simplicity) like it’s jam on toast and have been an avid spreader of the fact Mario absolutely does beat Sonic in a fight.
Oh my gosh y'all can't keep the words "sonic" out your guys mouth, why do you think there's always arguments about this cuz random ass people you can't shut up
I think Sonic would be a natural second episode for this series.
Mario solos Goku and his entire verse
Fax
Paper mario is canon to Mario, just paper mario is a story book version of Mario's adventure and i think paper jam kinda made that universe self aware they're just made of paper
Something that concerns me about some of these feats is I’m sure at least one of them had an enemy nearby to compare to. Without Defend Plus, a Goomba can deal one damage to Mario. At the same time, he takes no damage from the cannon launching him faster than a rocket and the subsequent crash into the moon. Either he can nullify non-attacks like friendly fire or a Goomba does more damage than they let on. I couldn’t live in a world where Goombas outcompete other mooks in strength.
Those are what we call Anti-Feats, and they are generally thrown out when analyzing a character in a Vs Debate. Otherwise you get things like Superman losing to Batman or Goku getting one tapped by a weak little laser.
@@CapsirusPrime Today I learned that Anti-Feats are a thing. Also, do we actually know if the Pure Hearts are still around?
@@aidanhammans9337 We do not, but typically in a Vs Debate, we would give characters tools and weapons that they have used even if they currently do not have them. Like if we were scaling Kratos, we would give him all the stuff from the Greek Era GOW games despite him losing all of that stuff by the time GOW4 roles around.
If the likes of Boo can Survive getting chucked into a Black Hole (Black Hole Boogie) I'm sure Goomba scaling above Moon level, as crazy as it sounds, is normal.
Plus, Goombas are more Powerful than you think. While they can't defeat Mario they can definitely tank a Couple of Blows before they give in. Think of Paper Mario's Partners for example.
Not sure if you’ll bring this up but sephiroth’s final smash in smash bros is a fudging suoernova, which Mario can survive no problem as long as he’s a low percent, sometimes he’ll even just take a nap and not move at all.
Smash isn’t canon
Sonic after seeing mario get the tanuki suit and swing his tail at him once (his cooked): 💀💀💀
Mario does actually have a canon as games do reference each other. And spin offs and RPGs are a part of that canon too- (maybe not paper Mario tho)
This just makes his feats more valid when power scaling and using him for matches.
Finally. Good content >:)
7:50 Hey WAIT A MINUTE
13:54 He’s got his own Chaos emeralds 😭
Goated video
Thanks for this, im tired of people downplaying Mario characters
I’m not agree with the Outerversal but i agree that’s in the Battle of Composite Mario vs Composite Goku
Mario will kick ass him
Mario CAN beat Goku 😍Mario scales High hyper-Outer and another casual immeasurable speed feat is Mario transcending time and space getting him to 5D with immeasurable (obviously can scale him higher but that’s a lowball)
Yap session incoming: I like to imagine that when the events of the first 3 Paper Mario games (or at the very least the first one) were written in a book in the verse, they inadvertently created an entirely new universe that the Paper Mario from the recent games in the paper series resides in (as well as all of the other paper characters, of course). Hence the events of Paper Jam and why Paper Mario was separated from the “real” Mario. None of this is directly stated or anything but it’s something I think makes a lot of sense. Also this is a pretty good scaling video for Mario. The only things I could think of that wasn’t mentioned are the stars being able to create entire “worlds” (though they are most likely entire universes or at the very least one shared universe) in 64. In that same game Mario fought a Bowser amped by several of these stars (or at the bare minimum one very powerful star), though you could argue that Mario was amped as well since he had been collecting many stars throughout the game (it’s never directly stated that he was amped but we know for a FACT Bowser was amped). The second thing is at the end of Galaxy 2 Bowser directly amped himself with a Grand Star and fought Mario inside or at the very least super close to a MASSIVE black hole. The last thing is the fact that in Dream Team we are shown that people can have dreams inside of dreams. So that means that there are basically an infinite layer of dreams inside of dreams inside of dreams etc. So Dreamy Bowser was most likely powered by an infinite number/layers of universes all infinite in size. I don’t think any of this really changes the final scaling of Multiversal+ - Low Complex Multiversal but it’s just more evidence to show that Mario powerscaling is simply absurd lol
You have to be some of the best researchers (in powerscaling) for bringing in mario time machine like this. Normally we give iq for that but when you get deeper into the story and gain the concept of the connections mario and others have with history. Thats broken. You earned this sub bro 🥲💯
You think Mario scaling to Outerversal WITH the Pure Hearts is insane!? In Super Paper Mario, the portly plumber actually fights and beats Dimentio IN BASE FORM (Both he and Dimentio were in a dimension that made them both stronger, so that balances out), and fights and beats his younger brother Luigi, who also fought and defeated Dimentio, and fights and beats both O'Chunks and Mimi, who are able to fight and damage Bowser and Princess Peach, who both, along with Mario himself, directly SURVIVED the power of the Void tearing a dimension asunder and were able to TRAVEL INSIDE OF IT in order to reach Count Bleck's Castle! This means that Mario can even scale to Outerversal WITHOUT the Pure Hearts!
I would like to see Kevin eleven from ben 10 scaled because Ben and his are the only ben 10 character I see scaled And I have no clue where Kevin scales
Even as a Sonic Fan I came to realize that Mario probably wins most fights so I am open to just seeing a cool fight. I have grown past my terrible judgments
Sonic really is just a worthless loser compared to Mario ain’t he? I’m just wondering… that’s all.
@@HeroTheHedgehog999😑 that is the most stupidest s*** I ever heard in my life
As much as I like goku he’s my favourite character of all time but Super Mario does infact beat goku + the verse and I’m saying this as a Goku fan
Very informative, now I’ll know how to better argue in Mario‘s favor, I believe he might beat Sonic now.
Can you do Ness next, he’s not as talked much about in versus compared to many other characters (obviously cuz he ain’t as famous as them) but still has some crazy and unexpected scaling.
Oh shit Yeah I heard that ness was stupid overpowered at the end game of earthbound my guy can now destroy universes
I promise you guys cannot power scale Mario without saying Sonic like bro you're asking to start a freaking argument
Mario is mentioned to be strong and then sonic fans or vs debaters instant transmissions
Great video
Crossover scaling is EXTREMELY iffy, so I personally don't consider what I'm about to say legit, but here's another way you could glaze Mario.
Mario + Rabbids provides some interesting implications for the cosmology, in the intro of the first game, it seems to depict a world where the events of the Mario series are fictional to them. Possibly getting to high complex multi. Not to mention the scaling from the Rabbids, considering many of those casually depict Rabbids defying meta boundaries and interacting with the real world (in the context of the games that is), possibly providing more evidence for Outer Mario, lmao.
As I said, I don't consider this as those games were made by Ubisoft and they seem to have had a lot of creative control; like you would not see some of the jokes in those games in other Mario games. Plus them saying the DK series is set in another dimension, which is just clearly false as plenty of characters from the DKC series (Diddy, Dixie, K. Rool, The Tiki Tak Tribe) have all made appearances in Mario games.
Lol “ here’s another way you can glaze Mario”
Mario defeated dimentia , what a goat
You know...as someone that made his oc around Mario and tried to make a more contestant canon to Mario and his world (Which I titled Galaxuim similar to how Sonic's world is Mobius.), I didn't understand how tough Mario was casually in the games, and I added Kingdom Hearts stuff to this guy. Shoot.
I disagree with the Dreamstone holding that many universes for one I think a better way to calculate it would be how many NPC’s you see throughout the whole game because there’s no way there’s over 1 trillion people on pillow Island but also just because someone can beat a reality war doesn’t make them stronger than said reality warperit just means that reality warper doesn’t know how to control their powers properly (I do like your video, however)
W video + fax dude 😎🔥
Mario vs. Sonic is closer than we thought
Powerscaling party 2 : SMT / Persona
Ps: good luck
Boundless or unsub.
A goomba is stronger than goku because mario died to one
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12:54 Of course! He can! Don’t you remember the legendary (not really) and fun (depending on your definition on fun) Mario’s Time Machine! He’s done this shiitake before Yoshis New Island was made (but this was before ….he went in a Time Machine in MTM (in lore) but… then…how? (Whatever Time Travel is complicated (the only reason I said this is because technically you said Mario can dodge lighting bolts via Hotel Mario but then again you probably didn’t know about that so uh here’s more evidence of Mario time traveling I guess…
Edit: Nvm you already know about it via 20:03
(I hope you have a good life and thank you for making this video (I saw your icon in Mario strong is Mario-plex Mario and thought eh why not and here we are me watching this video and putting this into a playlist for myself to come back to every now and again.))
I honestly would have given him star level at least and I say that as someone who's more a sonic fan, man lore can make characters busted...
Powerscale the Ender Dragon next please
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DO YOU KNOW WHAT GOKU'S *ONE* WEAKNESS IS?
All mario needs to do is to borrow a dinner blaster from the king, and he solos goku, no diff.
You should do Kirby next
@@superdbz456smashbros4 oh I have plans for Kirby
My personal take on the Mario canon is what Project Marioverse uses, which is every game that has been officially published by Nintendo. This means Hotel Mario is not considered canon since that game was published by Philips. Neither is Mario’s Time Machine. There’s also a surprising amount of evidence stating that even the Modern Paper Mario games are canon, such as Mario recognizing the corruption of Black Paint from Color Splash during the events of Bowser’s Fury. There’s also an Origami King-themed microgame in WarioWare Move It.
Hopefully this actually goes through.
_"I am not the most experienced power scaler so if I get anything wrong please let me know in the comments, feel free to correct me."_
Okey Dokey
The Mario World is mostly a High Fantasy World.
In spite of what many people believe there is actually a canon to the Mario games, and a very consistent one at that.
_"Paper Mario is a separate is a separate Mario."_
I don't believe this is the case and I believe there are 2 Paper Marios.
The Mario Party Minigame with the Blackhole is probably situational given he can't escape Blackholes in Galaxy.
Also, Blackholes probably work differently in the Mario world.
How do you know that's Mach Speed? Also, he himself isn't the one moving at Mach Speed.
Lightning probably works differently in this high fantasy world and can be dodged like how a Pokemon can dodge Pikachu's Thunderbolt.
As for Lasers, same with the previous also hello Star Wars characters dodge lasers.
I am being sarcastic but there are so many people not going at light speed dodging lasers in fiction.
Where did you get this math from?
It's implied he wouldn't have survived the Star Rod if the Star Spirits didn't help him.
You probably can just breath in space in the Mario world since he can't breath underwater.
He probably used Gadd Tech to time travel.
Cappy was for SMO and Cappy would have went home.
We also don't know where F.L.U.D.D. is.
He doesn't own the Music Keys.
He doesn't own the Purity Hearts.
Bowser was probably just lying about the IQ thing and IQ tests mean thing about intelligence if you know how they work.
Rosalina is not a goddess nor did she reset the universe that was the Lumas who did that. The Stars hold the Power in the Mario world.
You forgot it's Mario and friends.
Mario's Time Machine is not canon.
Mario is not Italian or from Brooklyn.
good video but I have several questions. why you consired paper mario as canon? imp paper mario is another character different from mario and his feat should not be used on mario.second why you don't consider modern paper mario games as canon? I know they are bad but I don't understand why exclude them.
@@antonioguak647 technically all the Paper Mario games are canon as confirmed in a recent interview with Miyamoto. But what sets the recent PM games apart is that they’re all physically paper, as opposed to the OG Games where the name is nothing more than that. Plus, the newer games don’t have that many good feats when compared to other games in the Mario series. And I like the newer games, with the exception of Sticker Star
@@CapsirusPrime thanks for answer my questions
Mario kun ?
Tbh Sonic still beats out Mario because Mario caps at multiversal+ whereas Sonic gets at complex multi.
WRONG, MARIO'S TIME MACHINE BABYYYYYYYYY!!!!!! /j
It’ll be close either way.
Yeah Japanese scientists use string theory to explain the Big Bang
Dimentio is far from being Mario strongest opponent and PAPER Mario defeated him in base
@@mynameisntimportant1374 Paper Mario is Mario
@@CapsirusPrime he isn’t
@@mynameisntimportant1374 they are
@@mynameisntimportant1374 What would be your best proof for that just wondering.
@@CMN9486 paper jam,galaxy,maker,the mangas,Nintendo own statements etc
I agree with all the rules that you lay down there's a few rules that I could add to that list and these are rules that I feel like they're very important in some people actually do miss and that is CONSISTENCY 4 a feet to be somewhat valid that feet needs to actually be done consistently and it needs to be shown at least a good amount of times for that actually be considered valet like the black hole feet insane but it's like that and then you play Galaxy jump into a black hole and you see the result it's pretty inconsistent the next rule that guy that I mean either bring up is a joke fee basically one that happens as a joke and does not end up being consistent and what I have to say about things in dream team is I feel like the first thing I should bring up is he had help with Luigi definitely say Luigi
Is definitely relative two dreamstone powder Mario's relative 2 but he is not as strong as dream Luigi is considering did the game made a point and clear that Mario needed him to help him and most of the fights in that game he basically becomes a whole power up mechanic calling Mario and dear anywhere strong as saying the dream world is like trillions of universes is a huge stretch to consider that this kind of thing is only in this game and he's not really shown to be this strong in any of his other games neither probably except for the Paper Mario series everything that you said Paper Mario I give you that one I consider Mario and Paper Mario has two different characters but your argument of Mario being able to use all of those heart abilities at once Chantelle considering they have dementia could do it he can enough to take seriously mostly Mario's Castle throw escapades I mean he get through these castles but this is shown in cutscenes you can't actually do this in the game and if you could I think Nintendo probably would have made it into a mechanic I got one more very important rule to bring up and that is
NO LIMITS FALLACIES I'm going to need to bring up a forum and a power up for this one and that is super Sonic white Tanuki both of these power-ups are considered indestructible but this is a problem and it's so big of a problem that cartoon Fight Club basically screwed over most of their fights by ending it in a drawer due to the fact that you're both indestructible since no one is stronger than the other they cancel each other out that death battle even death battle could not avoid this problem to avoid this the form that wins is the one that has the better seats for the one that actually has any Feats that it will even be considered even the slight Merit Super Sonic is a far stronger and better form than whites in Yuki considering that it's indestructibility is completely Bare Bones when supersonic shut down Solaris the best is skilled at 5th dimensional all three of its forums is basically as strong as the original is any all represent time as a whole 1 represents the past one represents the future I want to represent the present keep in mind you can say Silver and Shadow help out until you consider the fact that they needed Sonic for his health and even at that point basically pretty much as strong as the other and those are the that I feel there are very needed to be really good at Power scaling
I got to say, I can tell you had fun making this video. Even if I majorly disagree with a lot of, if not most of the stuff you brought up From a video creation standpoint, you did a good job. Even though there’s a lot of feats I could call into question from this video, I want to debunk one in particular because it’s the biggest argument I’ve seen for multiversal Mario and I just think there’s too many problems with it.
The idea that all dreams in the Mario universe being their own universes should be false. The first scan you put up is a Mario Party 5 english translation and it’s one of two scans that people used to support this idea. If we were to take this into account, then the best interpretation you could reasonably have is that this one dream is equivalent in size to a universe. That would be fine if this was a direct translation from a Japanese statement, but I haven’t seen anything that indicates that’s the case. The second statement that people use to support this is a lot more flawed. Even though it is a direct Japanese translation, “dream of the universe” shouldn’t actually indicate that the dream is the size of the universe. I don’t even see how you can interpret it that way. This doesn’t prove any other dream is also a/the size of the universe. If anything, the “of the universe” monocle would imply that the future dream is a special case. There’s other factors that would contradict the idea that it would extend to other dreams, but this is already way too long of a comment. It shouldn't even apply to the dreams on Pi’illo island. Other than that, these are the two scans that I see tossed around to directly support these fairly weak arguments. Dreams having constellations and stars doesn’t really matter when you remember that some stars have been shown to be really small (like the Sun in Mario 3 for example) in the Mario universe. It’s also generally an outlier for Mario (even with Luigi’s help) to beat up an amp to Bowser, who normally is shown to be similar, if not stronger than Mario in terms of power level. It is especially an outlier if you want to justify the Dream Stone to be Multiversal. For the other examples you would use to scale Mario did the dream stone, I believe he’s being amped up by Dreamy Luigi in those examples.
If you ask me where I believe Mario scales I say he’s generally universal with vague levels MFTL to maybe MFTL+ reaction speeds
Universal Mario is a major lowball ngl Wiz
@@theelderscout0314 I don’t know what to tell you dude. I’ve just found problems with all of the evidence with the arguments for Mario being higher. Especially with the arguments relating to dreams. If you think you can convince me otherwise, feel free to say why you believe it’s a lowball.
@@LaymoSupraymodreams have been proven to be universes in Mario lol.
@@ajworksatmcdonalds2896 That’s not true nor is it an actual argument against anything I said
@@LaymoSupraymo it is true lol
But Can he beat Superman tho?
@@CarlosGarcia91000 no
@@CapsirusPrime Mario is still the Superman of all video games
@@CarlosGarcia91000Tf is that supposed to mean?
@@A_literal_supernovaWhat do you think it means dude?
@@david_cool427YT I guess he means Mario is the icon of video games just like Superman is to Super heroes/Comics.
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Powerscale dn
Could he beat sukuna tho
@@MoosedUp yes
Yes ofc sukuna is city level+ Hypersonic+ he ain’t beating Mario
But there are stronger game characters
Can he solo Kirby tho
Maybe, we’ll just have to wait and see
If I'm being completely honest I don't believe that mario is as underrated as the mario community claims if anything he's quite the opposite now a days
He’s underrated by the casual content enjoyer, but overrated by the deeper Mario power scaling community.
@@LaymoSupraymoTrue
@@LaymoSupraymoi mean... you could say that to almost any franchise.
@@LaymoSupraymo hey, stop explaining every community
Cap, Goku negs fiction😂🤑🤬
5:31
It literally says “Even Bowser is there, shaken by his narrow escape from horrible fate”
Bowser didn’t survive anything.
Nah
@@cringemariobros2516Yahsn’t
@@A_literal_supernovahe did survive it. In the cut scene you see him sore and tired
@@TCBlueFireNope
Imo even with power-ups Mario is just barely enough to match Goku, so for me it's basically either a 50/50 coin toss or a tie.
Never cook again.
Nah, I’m gonna
@CapsirusPrime NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Base sonic defeated infinite who casually created the sun casually created another black hole that sonic out ran not mention that it took like 4 of Sonic’s past enemies to beat him in base which if you played the game you would know. And Infinite is stated in a official Sonic forces guide to be their strongest villain yet which means that if it took super sonic shadow and silver to beat solaris who was confirmed in the game to erase all time and space which is multiversal level then that means base sonic shadow and silver are multiversal level in base form.
Plus the fact that base sonic fix his erased timeline in generations from a being known as time eater who also erased all of time and space granting time eater multiversal level. in base form this would grant sonic immeasurable speed. In addition Base sonic holding back in colors , almost outran a black hole but survived being sucked in it. Lastly in 06 everyone at the end (except for sonic because he was dead at the time )outran multiple black holes in base form just to find a chaos emerald. Oh and i just wanted to point out that in 06 base sonic was brought back to life just by Elise wishing with the 7 chaos emeralds. And finally in sonic unleashed after dark Gaia awakens and cracks the world in 7 pieces the 7 chaos emeralds fixed all of that by itself and Sonic in super form with the help of light Gaia defeats dark Gaia, keep this in mind that all of this was before forces happened which like I said previously that infinite is above all of that for more it was confirmed in the official guide that the phantom ruby is stronger than the master emerald which is above the chaos emeralds and infinite used the phantom ruby against base sonic and lost with the help of the extra character .frontiers happened where Sonic fights the end which is currently the strongest sonic villain in history so far and in super form sonic defeated the end along with all the other titans he battles against. And to be clear Frontiers Sonic is stronger than forces sonic which would put base Frontiers Sonic at around high complex multiversal and with the chaos emeralds super sonic would be boundless + . This is all game Sonic by the way which is canon so Mario would stand no chance against base Sonic nor super sonic there is still more proof I could add more but I don’t have the patience for this right now , so that’s all I’ve got for today 😊😊😂
@@NIGELCollier-f9n that’s cool, but this video wasn’t about sonic. Maybe take this information to someone who cares
@@CapsirusPrimeExactly just ignore him I've met him dude before and he's just a biased Sonic fan seeking attention.
Ok but Mario stomp on da goomba
@@david_cool427YT no I'm not you just can't cope with fax
Smh, bad video, Goku solos Mario and his whole verse
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Smh cope harder cuz a looney tooney ahh plumber slaps up Mr Monkey see - Monkey doo 😢😂
Biased goku fan be like: