ECU Tuning Banned in California -- We're Hosed
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- ECU tampering has long been unlawful, but up until July 19, 2021, the state of California not enforcing this so long as the cars passed the required checks. Those days are over. It's a whole new world.
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So it's OK to openly use drugs in California but don't touch your ECU? Seems legit
Nothing to cite your bullshit? How shocked I am...
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And it's for that reason you flip them the bird and do it anyway
Could give someone hiv and know you have it and not get in trouble but cant but an exhaust on your car. Fuck cali
Lmaooo what??? Yeah alright bro that’s the dumbest shit I’ve seen
Things to do in California:
- leave
Too many coming to az.. it's getting to be a trash dump like cali.
The rest of the country: Stay and fix your sh*t!
Forney wanted to outlaw resale of police cars because they don't have speed limiters built into the ECU.
Yes you car does have speed control built in it too satisfy the Forney control nut jobs. Been that way since the 90s
"Rules for thee, not for me." -The Ruling Class
Should be the Democrat tagline.
The tag line of hippies.
@@desertwhaler Pretty sure both Democrat and Republican are the same, they are just on the other side of the coin.
@itoohavedreams "Rules for thee, not for me", Gavin Newsom's tattoo, lol
@Rules For Thee And Not For Me Until you notice that the rich holds way more power compared to their historical counterpart
CA Gov: No more tuning for you, too much CO2. You also have to certify your PC passes power usage tests
Also CA Gov: Hey warm up the Escalade so I can get on my private Jet to go to the Climate Change conference
thats why im never moving there. san francisco is literally a shitcicle
I mean we know particular daily drivers who don’t have properly working emissions systems create significantly more harmful byproducts like nitrogen dioxide, carbon monoxide, hydrocarbons, benzene, and formaldehyde. It’s not just about not being able to bypass or modify such systems or software, but in many states they also require smog testing to register ones vehicle.
I can totally understand the argument that it’s definitely a wise decision to make an effort to encourage less pollution in rural pockets of the US where millions of cars are on the roadways 24/7.
That said, I’m in the midwest and have a 7.3 liter turbo diesel with stage two injectors and custom engine tunes switchable on the fly. It’s totally stupid but so fun. But then again it’s not my daily driver in a huge populated area. I’m sure one can still own a vehicle and make ecu modifications in California, but just not allowed to register that vehicle as a normal passenger car. People definitely do things like off-roading, car shows, restore antiques and racing ect…and that’s likely always going to be a thing in America for potentially centuries into the future.
Wow, that makes liberals look bad so it must be racist. Stop pointing out their hypocrisy bigot
@@jmoo876 Except many of these laws were introduced by republicans. Why do people like you keep pandering to the "its not my team that's bad, its the other team" mentality? most politicians are corrupt no matter what party. Everyone in congress is bought and paid for.
@@TourGuideForGame I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy of preaching about rising sea levels, then buying a mansion on the beach or crying about CO2 from cars but flying private jets to climate meetings. Seems to be mostly liberals doing that buddy
The tuning regulations here in Australia are quite strict too. I've kept my car looking as stock as possible. When the cops look under the bonnet the first thing they look for are big shiny pipes and front mount intercoolers.
It also depends on which cops pull you over. Highway cops are the best to get pulled over by because these guys are usually car guys themselves. They usually just have a look, have a chat and let you go.
My tuned ECU identifies as STOCK… well done CA you played yourself
officer that turbo identifies as a muffler im not sure if you want to question its orientation
brilliant!
My cats identify as not gutted
that still may not work i was hoping a rewrite vs a can tune would slip thru but they have some algorithm in stock files that cross references with your vin so either refash at dealer before smog test or a spare ecm will work
@@jgetscensored7837 Cat guts that are guitar strings are offended. You're not using the guts/gits pronouns!
@@theguy497 actually that's a perfectly legal thing. Some dodges and abarths don't have a muffler because the turbo counts as a sound muffling device and they don't go over the noise limit
Meanwhile in TN where I live, counties that have had emissions testing for years are officially cancelling annual emissions testing starting in January 2022. There are some "free" states left in this union, for now anyways.
Oklahoma baby....zero emission testing and they don't mess with you over mods. They might mess with you over a extremely loud exhaust, but that is about it.
You people forget that the Clean Air Act of 1972 is a Federal law and when a state or an area is found violating the Clean Air Act, they're obligated to take measures to mitigate those violations. There is a reason why some areas do not require smog testing and others do. California basically across the entire state, prior to the fires, has been violating the Clean Air Act for several decades. Until the air is clean enough to the point where it no longer violates the Clean Air Act, expect continual ratcheting up of emissions standards. The rolling coal idiots have done major damage to the tuner scene.
That’s going to change real soon!
Don't advertise where you live. The people that voted for this crap will move to your state and destroy it.
You know where else you are 'free' to drive any polluting car? china. You seen the air in chinese cities lately? its disgusting.These laws are there so we don't end up blocking out the sun with the smog like they do over there.
This country is going down the hole in a hurry.
Just California, it’s the shit hole for the US. That’s why everyone is leaving.
just commiefornia , hope they make a great wall between us and the commiefornia and ban people from coming in
you spelled world wrong
@@adamstc8 cali isnt the world lmao. its already burning anyways
Pinkarmada01 he means the whole world not just Cali is going down the drain smart guy, and in Canada this is true as well, it’s getting complete effed here
And they thought Trump was a dictator.
People don't realize that most tuned cars are cleaner than factory. On top of that, there's an oil refinery like every 20 miles and people wonder why there's pollution- HAS to be the small handful of the population of enthusiasts right?
This is once again a case of the noisy few screwing it up for the rest of us. The average tuned car is fine and draws little attention. But between the people who think they need to install catless downpipes to gain any power at all (never mind that there are 900+hp cars with cats) and the ones that make rule-breaking super visible by rolling coal, it was inevitable that our days of avoiding enforcement were numbered.
@@Tangent360 Yeah, the only people who have any tact with loud crazy amounts alof backfiring are us rotary guys. Fuck sideshows and hoodlum dragsters
"People don't realize that most tuned cars are cleaner than factory."
I call BS. Got proof?
@@joevarga5982 If you want proof, go get it. Look up any car and any reflash for that car. Or even for that matter, cars that can legally be boosted in California.
@@RyuusanFT86 Sooo... you've got nothing.
You know the saying : "don't California my USA! ". Hopefully with Larry Elder that state will improve.
If they can't stop enough of the voter fraud they are gonna use to rig in Grusome.
Good luck with that. Larry comes across as having all his marbles and being a reasonable kind of guy. When was the last time Cali had someone like that in control?
Vote will get rigged and Elder will just miss out by a small margin" to keep everyone from rioting.
@@DanielRichards644 Exactly. Larry seems a decent guy so he's got no chance.
Praying for California, praying for Elder.
he didn't promise to disband the CARB unfortunately
Can’t have guns or cars anymore, at least I still have drugs. Good ol’ reliable drugs
Drugs keep you dumbed down and out of touch with reality. It's exactly what they want, so they can keep pushing there BS liberal agenda aka socialism without the majority standing up. There to stupid and high to care. All us sober ones get fucked for it
they have that to its called the pharmacy
@@buckberthod5007 sucks for you. WE dont care hehe
@@buckberthod5007 sober? Are you drunk or something?
Exactly the way they planned it.
The rolling coal crowd really did ruin it for everyone else.
@Budget Boost DIY u M U S T B E T R I P P I N G releasing a black cloud of smoke is less pollution then a normal gas engine in ur head?
negative
@Budget Boost DIY it looks worse, you can't play "well actually" with government politicians. if it LOOKS fun/bad it gets BANNED. It's everyone's fault who can't keep lowkey
soot is clean man
We tried to tell them, they were just too jacked on Monster and White Claw to listen.
EPA cracking down on tuning devices and tuners. They got other priorities but they decided to pick the easy target. I'm glad I live in Texas.
Same, we gonna have to move out soon though, Californians moving here to ruin our state next
@@King_Immanuel Yup. They're the main reason, along with New Yorkers, everything is becoming more expensive, more regulations, etc.
Here in México you see public bus making a big black smoke cloud every time it steep on the gas lol
Súbele! Hay lugares!
Living in California means you're hosed, regardless
It combines everything bad about the US and Europe. What a sweet deal!
This is coming to every state soon.
@@spikespiegel2246 no it won’t. No the state is stupid enough to do this communist bullshit
@@spikespiegel2246 Nope. Many States don't even have smog checks and never did.
Thats why I left Commiefornia in 07 and never looked back.I now live in a free state ! That $20 fee should be the red flag for all of Cali's citizens.
Good for you. I’m as far away from for California and New York as I can get. I fear it’s coming for all of us though. Even down here in Georgia. Us freedom loving people just want to be left alone.
The government doesn’t care about us because we don’t burn down cities when we don’t get our way.
I left in 09 and went back in 19 and the place was night and day. What a travesty
And the US main power grids won't be able to handle all those electric cars not unless they upgraded
A power systems engineer did the math & figured out that the USA would need to build a new nuclear power plant every 2-3 weeks *for the next 50+ years* in order to make the switch to electric vehicles possible for everyone across the country. That's just to produce the power necessary. Add in the upgrades necessary for the grid to have the ability to get all that power from the nuclear power stations to the existing homes/businesses, and then add in all of the new charging stations necessary for "universal electrification." "Won't be able to handle" is an understatement.
so peasants get punished, meanwhile corporations dump megatons into the atmosphere. ok.
And this is why I'll never visit California. DPF failed on my truck, was going to cost $8000 to replace the system, or $1400 to delete. I obviously deleted the truck. However, I also installed the new system with a catalytic converter to keep it as clean as possible without the DPF and a massive muffler to keep it as quiet as possible. Some of us just want vehicles that WORK and don't require thousands of dollars in repairs. Since I deleted the truck, I have gained around 4mpg better(burning less fuel), my oil changes are less frequent, etc....
But I agree with this video, the few have completely ruined the car scene. There's a WRX by my house that purposefully makes his exhaust pop and bang on his way to work @ 6:30 in the morning and the neighborhood page is constantly complaining about it. Which will eventually turn into them complaining at the local level and ruining it for all of us.
Craig, as a Brit, it's down to space. Land prices are high and a lot of our houses are older than normal in the USA.
Some of our houses are older then the US
Our insurance also doesn't work like he thinks either
@@gareth121astra Yeah my 135i Coupe is massively modded and with my listed mods, it's not that much more than it being unmodded. Age and location are the biggest factors here in the UK to our premiums.
@@FelixIsMyName indeed NCBs help also...sounds like a nice motor 👍
@@gareth121astra Yeah, that's a big one I overlooked. It's the N54 version as I am wanting to do a 1M clone.
I've got 484bhp and 506lbf, and is the first car to scare the shit out of me, while driving it and not crashing!
Vote them out or leave. And when you leave, don't bring your politics with you if you voted for this.
I support protecting air quality, and local air quality is the most important to you. But there are bigger fish to fry imo
As a Londoner, I’m very impressed with your knowledge of the situation in Great Britain regarding cars and car modifications.. Love the content 👌
That's why I tell potential drivers and owners. Depending on your state, you'll feel like you don't even own your car. Emissions,inspection, aftermarket parts not allowed. You notice they don't help you pay for the car.
"Govenor Arnold Schwarzenegger" hasn't stopped sounding weird lmao
I had to get my modified and tuned STI smog checked in Texas last month. The guy at the testing place said, "Do you have cats?" I said, "Yes". He said, "Yeah right...". He went on to say he failed 2 STI's earlier in the same day because they had straight pipes with no cats. Well, thankfully, I have a GESI cat and passed no problems.
idk where you live but we really dont have shit here in Texas, just make sure it safe to drive on the road
Where in Texas did you have to have a smog check? I'm from Oklahoma but I have a lot of family in Texas and this is the first I heard of this!
@@ATTACKDRAG0N thats what im saying!!
@@ATTACKDRAG0N the big cities along the I-35 corridor test. Austin, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio. Not sure about other cities like El Paso.
@@Pinkarmada01 the bigger cities on I-35 do. Austin is a nightmare. They fail vehicles all the time for emissions, and they won't give you your inspection record for state registration if you car fails. I'm convinced that it's a racket where the big dealers gave kickbacks to the politicians for it so that they can "fail" cars, and then sell the owners parts & labor to "fix" the problem so that they can get their State registration done.
Ok do this ,;
A) load base tune, save.
B) get Dyno Tune, enjoy.
DMV Time:
A) load CARD /OEM tune.
B) smog test. / pass
C) reload Dyno Tune.
D) HAVE 🏁 FUN # ! !
@Budget Boost DIY bullshit. tuned ECUs are never more efficient or have better emissions.. I do NOT know anyone, who goes on a dyno and asks the tuner 'hey, buddy, please make my car to do as many MPG as possible'. Everyone aims for more power and dont give a tiny shit about emissions or fuel economy. Furthermore - manufacturers spend millions fine tuning their cars to be as powerful as possible, as economical as possible with the least emissions as possible all at one. All tunes are thoroughly tested and tested until they come up with the 'golden middle' to tick all boxes. Yet a tuner sets up a car in a day lmao.. Dont be delusional matey - you want more power, you sacrifice economy and emissions, you want economy - you sacrifice the power
Exactly.
You just need HP tuner, and you can flash the stock/performance tune how many times you want in 1 minute.
pls dont forget that we in germany have the autobahn. So if you buy some new wheels for your car and maybe a rear wing, you really wanna trust that this stuff doesnt simply break or fly away when you hit a bump at 240kmh, so therefore the strict regulations aren't that bad.
Hmmm... we have quite the same issue in the 2A community. You give the Fed a little wiggle room to steer into your lane... and they will.
I realize that there always has to be a balance. But, at the same time I believe there is an imbalance because the government's answer is always to control more and chip away at what you have --- as opposed addressing the correct root-causes.
Gun control vs. education and public safety. EPA-CARB restrictions vs. focusing on improving public transportation and access to services.
None of these alternatives involve are easy turnarounds and solutions - but we know why the long game is never the preferred choice: because it's always about reelection potential.
Whatever. Keep voting like you do, America! Best of luck holding back the constant wave of restrictions on your freedoms.
I live in Fresno, CA. From what it looks like, the "wild" fires seem to cause more of a pollution than anything. Atleast from what I see when looking outside as of today, you can literally see the smoke in the air. I remember one time there was ash falling in the air last week. Even tho this type of pollution is season, I can only visibly see the "wild" fires causing bad air.
California needs to start doing controlled burns again.
yup, bad forestry mngmnt.
plus..cant vett this, but i have seen pix of large drones with flame throwers on them.
tyhey b;lame climate change..yet..no massive in size/numbers fires in Canada..why is that? uh huh.
An agenda is in play. it bolsters the green movement..green as in greed, not the environment.
I was going to say almost the same thing. glad i found this comment. yes, the annual california fire season. smh.
I live in Clovis. The air quality is terrible. My father and I were reminiscing about our old house in Fresno, remembering a time when the state wasn't on fire all the time.
As a Canadian I can definitely confirm that our roads are awful.
0 regulations on airlines, 0 regulations on Freight/cruise ships, 0 regulations on military. But yeah keep putting the little guys down. Ridiculous.
Exactly
Homelessness is good stealing under 1000 in goods is good paying criminals not to shoot is good but cars are a scourge? Get out while you can.
Guess we're all going back to piggy backs and sensor spoofing just like the 80s and 90s again! Worked then, still works now.
One could retain the factory ECU settings for inspection time. Once you pass, time to go to the modded settings. Or, have the factory ECU handy for inspection as well as an aftermarket one for when the process is over.
It is frustrating that people who make these kinds of laws specifically against cars have no idea that most of that pollution is caused by factories. There needs to be some kind of regulation for factory smog output.
They know. They're paid not to care. Or they OWN the company belching out pollution. They damn well know
Those regulations have existed since 1974 in the U.S. and has only gotten tighter. The difference is they off-shore most production to countries that don't care, like China and Mexico. You would be surprised at some of the pollution scrubber tech and how much it costs to maintain as sometimes it's cheaper to take the fine that the E.P.A. hands you then doing the maintenance.
@@joeblow5214 right, the rich are above the law. These laws only affect low to mid income people. Anyone else, just pay their way out of it or find loopholes specific to them that would strictly target hobbyists. The dumb thing is that all of this nonsense came from diesel trucks spewing out comically large amounts of black smoke, something that could not possibly be produced by a standard gasoline engine. I hate the rich. This is why we can't have nice things...
Loved the country comparison, always so interesting to see the weird and interesting advantages and disadvantages some places have. Since it didn't get directly mentioned, figured I'd add Japan for anybody who cares. Been driving here since 2017 ('97 Starlet Glanza V) and the rules are pretty easy. Most mods are totally legal for your "shaken" inspection every other year, your exhaust just has to pass a noise test (95db for older cars, called JASMA, and 93db for post-2010-ish, called JQR) and emissions test. The only weird part is that any sort of adjustable suspension arms are an immediate fail. Rims and tires are free game, they just can't poke beyond the fenders. You can also convert an N/A car to forced induction, but that does alter the status on your car title to 改, which is "custom" or "modified," and basically just adds extra cost. That cost is the bigger issue here; that inspection every other year for me in Tokyo is about $900, plus $400/year in road tax, and since my car is just a 1.3L, it's in one of the cheapest categories. Plus every highway is a toll road, parking can be hundreds per month...Japan basically just tries to price people out of the hobby rather than directly regulating things too much, at least when it comes to living in the big cities. Although they did also classify street drifters as "gangs" in the same category as Yakuza a few years back...so you *really* do not ever want to get caught doing skids on a mountain.
I wonder what car people in other countries think about states like Texas where cars are pretty much free to roam without the bullshit.
@@Pinkarmada01 Basically the same thing here in the Philippines. Except we need anything with four wheels or more to be a left hand drive.
It's not about the environment, it's about money...
Well.....thats the GREEN part of this XD
So what's stopping us from just flashing our ecu back to stock for the smog test then reflashing the tune as soon as we pass?
They can detect that….
@@lebrongoat9920 so what? If you buy a car that was previously modified by a previous owner it’s gone forever now?
It's annoying how a single individual has to pay out of pocket to prevent their car from making even a negligible amount of pollution, yet cruise ships can pollute more than hundreds of millions of cars combined, and face no scrutiny.
Putting thousands of satellites in orbit. Planning on them burning up after a few years. All have batteries,PC boards and metals to vaporize.
Nothing is coming out of my tailpipe like that toxic stew.
The land of the free? Nah. The land of the hosed.
Gonna have to go old school. Piggyback tuners are undetectable by scanning software. Also they typically can be installed
emoved in minutes. Sucks, but better than nothing.
Karens are celebrating all over
of course they to fat to drive
Make the poorest driver's pay more money. Now that's the Government I know!
California needs to crackdown on high fuel prices for good since covid.
Might be a good time to recall a certain authoritarian Governor.
Well, as a german: i always looked up to the US and your possibilities to tune cars :D Some things i wished i could do in germany, too. Some i was happy not to be allowed here. But all in all, being a car-fan in germany is not easy... There is also the possibility of an "Einzelabnahme", which means something like an individual technical inspection. So you can legal use parts that are not EU-proofed (or not proofed for your car specifically). But many things can´t be driven legal because you can´t pay this inspection. For example: I drive a 2018 Camaro SS and upgraded the brakesystem with the ZL1 calipers and rotors. I ordered everything in the US and the parts are all original and new from GM. You have no chance to get this proofed in germany because they want an amount of documents for everything... i mean... we also have ZL1s in germany driving around. The got an indivivual approval after import. WITH THE SAME BRAKES! But for me, there is no way to drive them legal. They are stock-parts. But that doenst count in germany. If something works everywhere in the whole world, it doesnt mean its also working on german roads... :D
Not sure if you have the same or a similar saying but germany has a huge, and with huge i mean a very huge, stick up its arse.
Yes and after the elections next month everything will be probably that much worse.
@@GuardsRed996 Don´t remind me on that... our "green" party wants speedlimit of 130 km/h on the Autobahn and 30 km/h in cities, which is bullshit level 9000. Oh and of course our CO2-tax needs to increase more... let´s ruin the people to save the world. Got aggressive when thinking about it :D
@@Lc4Hunter yes me too, I‘m honestly gonna leave germany if that becomes true.
@@GuardsRed996 I agree man, lets leave Germany to all the incoming refugees, because all the laws create a jail out of this country. A sinking one.
@@chillsnotskills9995 I will settle for the Netherlands or Poland
The community needs to stand up. This tyranny can't continue. Industry and transportation belch out massive pollution but our little cars and trucks are the problem.
Welcome to the gun world
Just remember Snitches get Stitches
Imagine thinking that someone giving you yet another reason to move out of California is a bad thing...
Unless BAR has a way of handshaking with ECUs off factory lot and every time the car is turned on, there is no way of controlling how people use the ECU. I also highly doubt big companies will let BAR take over their intellectual property just to handshake. People will always find a work around.
Have you ever heard of CAL ID, CVN or SUMS/CSMS? I propose googling up on that.
Sorry to break it to you but its already there. It began with OBD which was very limited originally but they have been able to check anything in the ecu for a long time.
General rule of thumb is if the dealer can do it they can too.
you left out lobbyist's private jets ! as gross polluters ! !
Greece, no modification at all ? I'm just laughing because at every corner in Greece you will find a car with exhaust, wheels, intake and so on. This is certainly the country where there is the most number of modified car in Europe.
I lived there for 2 years and had Honda S2000, at the annual inspection my car w testpipe passed the emission test, I just had to bring a bottle of wine to the controller :))))
Here in in germany there is also something called einzelabnahme (individual acceptance) . F.e. Installing rims and wheels combination, which is not certified specially for your car. The car and parts still needs to reach cirtain criterias to be street legal f.e. the used parts itself needs to be cerified or minimum ground clearance from the lowest part of the car to the ground has to be 80mm ~3.2" . Minumum space between rims and wheels to susspension and brake calipers needs to be 5mm (0.2") .Then they will check if the wheels are not bottoming or touching the fenders. They will do a querverschrenkungs ( cross twist) test. They will put the car on two palforms, which are 140mm (5.5") high diagonal under the tires ( front left, rear right and vice versa) and check, if the wheels have the minumum dictance of 6mm (0.24") over all to the car parts, even if the steering is turned completly left and right. You also need a certification, that the speedometer is still in the tolerance of 2% reading error. The speedometer is allowed to show a faster speed as driven (~2%), but not slower as driven. If you all have done the paperwork, then there is no problem to get it street legal.
We also do engine swaps and "mo powa baby" and are able to get it street legal. But you have to follow specific rules in order to get it street legal. Ive a seibon carbon fiber hood, and its also street legal, just to give you an example, that germany is not completly over restricted.
Fun fact: all german rallye cars, which are used in germany must be street legal. So we also have opportunities
Australia and New Zealand are kinda the same as the UAE. The engineers want to see you’ve improved the brakes and the suspension to deal with the power you’re putting down. Makes perfect sense really.
As a hybrid student I see that the electric-car idea is not the best at the moment for the power grid because I already see it can't take it.
If it gets too windy they want to cut or reduce power or fires near by they want to cut the power so the hybrid gas-electric is better
not all of us want to drive a washing machine. I think we need to let them have our stupid giant gas guzzlers but give us leeway on smaller, lighter sports cars. that would create a market for things like cateram, lotus, and others. Then sports cars will at least be a highly refined hobby and less giant fat cars with 900hp but weigh 6000lbs. they will also be way more fun (the whole point), stay legal, and get good gas mileage at the same time. everything they want with gas sipping. and everything you want with a fun car.
Yeah youre pretty much right about Canada. Since Emiisions tests were scrapped anything tuning-wise is generally not an issue, with exception of Cat delete. Noise pollution, unsafe mods, limo tint, lighting, etc are what will get you. Unless your car looks like it belongs on the track, is causing an issue with the public, or you get caught up in a safety blitz or street race bust youll generally be left alone.
You people forget that the Clean Air Act of 1972 is a Federal law and when a state or an area is found violating the Clean Air Act, they're obligated to take measures to mitigate those violations. There is a reason why some areas do not require smog testing and others do. Basically across the entire state of California (when it's not on fire) has been violating the Clean Air Act for several decades. Until the air is clean enough to the point where it no longer violates the Clean Air Act, expect continual ratcheting up of emissions standards. The rolling coal idiots have done major damage to the tuner scene.
Let's face it, it's NOT about emissions, it's NOT about wanting a cleaner world, it's ABOUT GETTING MORE MONEY IN THE GOVERNMENTS POCKETS.
Always was
Its about power and control. Money... oh that stuff they keep printing and giving away.
Carburetors, no Chips no ECU .
This is when California starts noticing that there's a lot of out of state plates🤔😁
Derive systems and VW both demonstrated a few years ago that CO2 emissions can be drastically reduced by changing the tune of an ECU. The VW scandal showed that carbon emissions and fuel consumption can be reduced by 50% if the emissions control equipment is designed to be bypassed, while Derive systems proved that a simple re-tune could cut CO2 and fuel consumption by nearly 25% on standard emission control equipped vehicles. Thanks to our emission laws we traded smog for doubled greenhouse gas emissions and doubled fuel consumption. Both Derive and VW faced massive lawsuits from the EPA and that was when this crackdown began. Customer data was passed on to the EPA when the Derive lawsuit was settled, this was the starting point for the crackdown on the shops and resellers who were doing things like packaging emission bypass kits with Derive tuners. The EPA is fighting for its very survival at this point, as the clean air act which gives the EPA its lease on life also defines the emission rules they are enforcing. If or when the people realize that the clean air act and the EPA knowingly contribute to the "climate crises" sweeping reforms will happen over night, and EPA employees will have a lot of explaining to do while they look for new jobs.
Glad in New Jersey you are exempt from Emissions if your car is 25 years old
They're trying to end that, and they're working to end the 25 year import rule as well by refusing to register imports & revoking registrations of those already on the road.
@Adrian Vegas nah, my brother’s 240 is a drift car he takes on the street
Racing stripes increase insurance rates?! Wow 😂🤦♂️
Fr those are cheapest/easiest way for to for gain hp next to eurobeat
well in germany we just remove all our mods before we go to the tüv centre and after we pass we just throw everything on again
How often do you have to go to the tuv centre ?
@@johnconnor7501 also every 2 years or if you do a mod you need to certify it by them or else its illegal but you need loads and loads of paperwork for that which most companys for aftermarket parts dont have
my 2008 ranger identifies that it was made in 1975 so i dont need to smog now
It's okay to walk out with a cart full of stolen copper from Home Depot and we have to help them load it into there car and maybe even get sued if we call them a thief. But..............
I'm a UK person sorry for that most towns and city's are too crowded to build garages :( also my £200 pound insurance agent up to £3000 for a wheel Change coilover kit and a body kit and a few engine mods ......
If you think it's bad for cars, look at what emissions regulations have done to trucking. Fleets are crippled with these systems. Older non-emissions trucks run just fine on oil changes and regular maintenance. The new trucks are on a never-ending breakdown/revenue-productivity loss/ pay-to-fix-to-keep-running hamster wheel. There's a reason why trucking companies go broke in a hurry.
Propaganda snuck into Snowrunner: "Thanks to clean diesel technology, it takes 60 modern trucks to equal the emissions of one truck from 1988!"
Me: "Is that because the modern trucks only run for 1/60th as long before requiring major, expensive repairs?"
You can still tune your ECU just make sure day before or a bit earlier before your license renewal to put it to factory state and then later retune it again. Simple as that. Or just buy one chip that is factory stock and keep your modified one and just swap in and out. ;)
Fuck emission laws don’t let them stop us from being petrolheads
Leave California and leave the crappy policies behind.
In Egypt there's virtually no restrictions on modification to cars so long as the chassis and engine serial number matches the registeration data since cars are taxed based on engine displacement, and importing used cars that are more than a year old is not allowed.
Notice there's no cap on the size of homes and the energy those homes consume in California. But I'm sure all those mega mansions are 100% solar.
That's why I will never feel any shit for any of these politicians or law makers when something happens to them.or their families....nothing but a waste of tax papers money
Any pollution countries reduce by just gets replaced by increase emissions from China. They produce more emissions than the trailing 4 countries combined (US, India, Russia, Japan). So if governments really want to solve this problem, that's where the focus needs to be. These laws target such an insignificant amount of vehicles that they really are negligible. And it really makes you wonder if the people implementing these things really think they're doing something.
But anyways, gotta get back to work. Taxes to pay so I can surrender more of my freedoms to a minority group of people, called government.
"If you want to make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and make the change"
- Michael Jackson
By saying we should control what people in china do, you're thinking no different than the communists that live in California.
Pretty soon even breathing will be banned in California due to excess co2. 🙄😒
The state will be charging you for air.
Already is... Mask mandates
No, a lot of houses have garages here in the UK, however nobody seems to use them for cars anymore. People just use them to fill with their crap. Not only that, our garages are tiny
I feel for you guys.
the fact you have to compare Ca to the EU to make it seem a little better shows how terrible the government overstepping has become there.
I see more and more California plated cars towing U-haul trailers going east every time i get on i80.
Before we get the typical move from California comment.... If you don't take a stand it will just creep to every state.
Especially when the locusts leave California & then vote for the same crap in Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, etc.
Rolling coal is just about the dumbest thing I've seen. I knew people were going to get pissed.
Anything to get attention to yourself though, am I right?
i never understood a 6,000+ lb truck to be fun..predominantly driven on roads, anyway & never pulling or hauling anything. like..drop a Hemi in a Dakota for a small fraction of the $ and destroy a coal roller..or LS swap a Colorado, if trucks are yer thang. full size, super heavy diesel trucks are expensive to buy/build/maintain & you need 1,000 hp to equal/keep up in a 3,000-4,000 lb anything else. that said.. LA has an air flow & high population prob..as it's in a bowl, as is Denver. There is a right way & wrong way to address pollution and slamming tuners is the wrong way.
California fucked up priorities again
The most relevant thing I saw on this topic "I can modify my gender, but I can't modify my car"
Ffs we are stupid, arent we
Modifying your gender only affects you in the long run. Modifying your car affects everybody around you (at least if you roll coal). I don’t think it should be a blanket ban on ECU tuning. There’s gotta be some solution manufacturers can make or a compromise. Comparing it to being trans though just seems disrespectful to trans people.
The whole garage situation here in the UK is mainly due to space. We have over 66 million people with a land mass roughly the size of Texas. Land and property is insanely expensive here.
Just scored a full workshop for £40/m, just outside a major city!
Canadian cops HATE underglow and any LED modifications, Up here the police actually like modified cars, they get excited, but LEDs, they cause a visual distraction hazard to other drivers and that = instant pull over.
Well that’s actually fair enough really, compared to some other mods like racing stripes the cops can do you for 😂
ricey parts like underglows should be completely banned. those things are nothing but piece of shit
@@PSXBOX-lz1zq For sure!
Where are you? If your in the lower mainland BC they hate any modified car, exotic or anything that doesn't suit their weird viewpoints. All started because of an Instagram feud a couple years back.
@@corail53 Oh ya, province to province it's totally different, I'm in Ontario, lots of modded cars all over the place!
Thank you so much for pointing out that the black smoke spewing, coal rolling diesel trucks is what led to this problem..... Ive watched about 15 videos on this topic now, and not one has touched on how its ridiculous to penalize 100% of automotive enthusiast, when 1% of automotive enthusiast are responsible for 99% of the pollution output from automobiles.
Futher, coal rollers were specifically using the technology to assault people all over the state and the police were not willing to do anything about it.
@@pratikpramanik7782 I wasnt going to bring it up, but you are correct. This is also a failure of police culture in america. Some kid with a fart can'ed civic = Fair Game to police. A dickhead in a Lifted Cummins spewing black smoke, with a loaded gun under the seat, and a blue line skull sticker = Good Ol' Boys
People literally get pulled over and their cars impounded all the time for stuff like dark tint, aftermarket lighting etc.... But police completely turn a blind eye to this bullshit.
This is the gateway to government being able to control your electric car in the future when gasoline powered cars are no longer sold. Big Brother moves slowly, but deliberately.
Just do your mod and have a switch that flips it back to default mode when you go in to get tested or get pulled over.
in Canada no restrictions on if you want to lay frame it is the jacked up lifted trucks that are being cracked down on due to to high of headlights and to high of bumpers same regulation as semi trucks with Mansfield bars
This rule makes sense... there is most likely a label that says your ECU is known to cause cancer in California. So you probably don't want to touch it.
That is unless you live in any other state. Where our ECUs are both cancer and CARB free.
Fact of the matter is that, this is a free country or at least it’s supposed to be. So forcing people to keep their own PERSONAL property in this case their vehicle stock because of BS rules that legit do nothing to help this planet is completely against our rights as US citizens. I’m also going to say that ECU tuning could indeed benefit the emissions of a vehicle as can certain modifications like turbos. But at the end of the day no matter how much you restrict this stuff it will never change the way this planet works and functions, people bitch about climate change but has anyone of them ever heard of the ice age? No cars existed in that time yet the planet still had climate change, there were no factories, or any polluting from carbon monoxide yet the planet still had climate change. Fact of the matter is this is all about control over the people and that’s it, the government is trying to control the people as much as possible and restrict our rights as much as possible. Me personally I could care less about what they want, I do as I please, I pay my taxes therefore I have a legal right to modify my personal property how I see fit!
That's the way I feel too... Burning the flag creates pollution, but they'll allow that. Why don't we see car mods as protected freedom of expression?
@Budget Boost DIY exactly!
@@cafe80s 100% agree.
That smog fee is just like owning a fully automatic rifle you can as long as you pay the government $200.
@Verts Videos California doesn't allow you to have NFA firearms or to do a transfer of a gun grandfathered in from before 1986.
@@demurevilleneuvewinslet8235 He probably wasn't talking about Cali.. It's the same extortion racket though.
It like paying the cartel so that they don't kill you
Fines are just permission slips for the rich
Elect Larry Elder it’s the only hope for my home state.
Not sure it can be saved. Too much debt and red tape.
About 8:30 est.:
Us Brits do have houses with garages but either our cars don't fit or the average john would rather it be a gym, office or non-automotive storage unit, simply because we don't have much room.
Driveways on the other hand, gated or otherwise, plenty of places do have them. Just a matter of knowing where to look.
Plus land in the UK is waaaaaaay more expensive than the US on average. So house plots tend to be too small to include a decent sized garage.
Yea its like Government here in New Zealand they'll give you money back if you buy an e.v but tax you if you buy a new diesel. And yep same thing here they want everyone in electric cars but continue to buy fleets of BMW 7 series limos
Because everyone knows a catback exhaust makes more pollution, some people think they use more fuel too. Oh where i live cops drive Tahoe's
Most officials are driven by their egos. Modesty is forbidden.
Gas stations will probably not go extinct, they will remain in service for semitrucks, rescuers, firefighters, police and - of course - government officials.
In Europe, we have our own version of coal diesel cars - these are not modded tho. Worn cars, with high mileage and poor maintenance, that are still able to get through their smog check evaluation, because they are able to pass norm valid for them.
Wealthy elite own multiple huge homes around the world, yachts, private planes, etc but clearly the little people with their modified ecus are the issue 🙄
Someone needs to invent a dual boot ECU. We have a company called Revo in the UK (just as an example' they specialise in vag cars) who sell a "tuning chip" with a triple switch by clicking the switch you can change from a standard map to a slightly more aggressive map and then again to an ever more aggressive app. Can't someone just invent that but for usdm vehicles?
The results of "Yeah, I like cars, buuuuuuuut..." are becoming more obvious every day, but judging by this comment section, people are still deliberately refusing to understand. Blame the coal rollers or the crackle tuners if you want, but it won't help. They've already made it clear they either don't care what you think of them or actively want to make you mad. You can either let them be and fight as hard as you can to save car culture, including the parts you personally don't like, or you can go on hating and blaming them and enjoy your mandatory EV. It's that simple right now.
1. Load stock tune.
2. Drive to get P1000 to clear out.
3. Smog check.
4. Load custom tune.
5. ?
6. Win!
Spare ECU for me
Well said,
“Rules for thee, but not for me ✍🏻.”
Easier to have serfs than people running their own government.