Hope you find your riser. I started my soaring journey over 25 years ago with a 2-meter glider called a gentle lady, now I fly paraglider’s definitely a addictive hobby. Keep soaring
I lost a Fokker tri plane in a wheat field and couldn't find it,till they plowed the field, and then I found little part's of it everywhere!! Know the feeling!!!
I keep 8 props, I like to break props. No i just belly land a lot and cant find a good folding prop around here. I buy the 8 x 3.8 props for $2.25 each APC brand I think. I get about 1 pound of thrust with my tiny rimfire. I bet it could get that huge glider up there with the help of the wind
I love gliders. I have a Blizzard 2m span V tail that is incredibly difficult to slow down. Quite heavy. I mixed in up elevator with down ailerons as speed brakes and that works very well. Took some experimenting to get the mix rates right. Might help your 4m span bird. My first bird was a Sig Riser. Built it over 20 years ago. 2 channels and lots of fun. Still have it. Happy flying.
Have you tried using the ailerons as spoilers (so both ailerons up) and mixing it with a bit of down elevator? The problem with ailerons down is that it may result in stalling really badly.
If you have not already done so, talk to some glider pilots about ridge soaring. The landing was hard because it was across the wind, and perhaps in the 'grabbing hand' of turbulence behind the cliff.
Hi been flying and building gliders for over 45 years, drill out the noise for balance weight. extending THE WING CENTRE WEBBING FOR BUNGE LUNCHING, and bracing the outer wing, cross bracing stops wobbling, elevator rear trailing edge with hardwood stiffing it up, , rudder fin leave the legs on(10mm) drill holes in the elevator stiffing it up to, 2mm plywood on the bottom front of the fuse.Past the wing trailing edge bulkhead stops gouging on landing. I use clevises on both ends of both pushrods. rudder trailing edge straight up . we found when flying the way you had it wobbles. (helpful hints), flown and built a lot of gliders. hope all this helps for better flights. in strong winds on the slope put more weight in the fuse on the CG flys better.
The first 10 flights with a plane with a motor: open area NOT by the ocean, so that you can fetch the plane easily. You can use the motor time to time. The wing surfaces, ailerons, rudder, etc. need to be fine adjusted during these first flights to make controlling the plane smooth.
Make sure to secure the wings of the XL3, in addition to the multilocks, with clear packing tape. Using a windsock or streamers might have saved your glider. If you lost the prop of the XL3 as well you were lucky to get it back. If topography permits, landing from the back of the cliff into the wind would be a safer aproach. Crow will not reduce speed much touching down with a tail wind. Make also sure that at full crow position flaps are down approx. 80 degrees. Considering your landing site make sure to release crow just before touchdown as not to damage the flaps. Keep bringing this videos...
great pointers...and try and give yourself a generous approach unless already at expert level....try not to use up elevator at all once you commit to landing unless you really have to....you have to avoid flaring as it simply kills any chance of a good stable approach. Great to see you enjoying the hobby...its amazing and addictive... bravo.
@@Joyplanes But considering that I can see the alps from over 150 km distance on a sunny day clearly I guess you could see the UK there too, but only in the footage of your plane cause that will give you the elevation to overcome the earth curvature. Adults can see on a beach up to 4,7 km, childs only 3,6 km which shows the nature or challenge: I can only see the top of the mountains You plane needs to get a bit higher to see something in 100 km at sea level. If there would be mountains it would be easier. Lake genever is also funny cause if the ferry crosses the lake and you watch it then the ships hull is getting smaller and you can only see the upper decks. I like your content, but this one was hard to watch a plane disappearing so close to you is a tough fate and no rescue mission possible at least for now.
@@typxxilps Yes you can very clearly see Wales from this location and from the Wicklow mountains on a day with good visibility. It helps that Wales has a lot of mountains
Considering you lost the Riser 100 it might sound bad but I would call it also luck that you did not loose the Epsilon XL3. No drone for a recue mission where the plane is ? Ask the on fb inav community and I guess you will find someone that knows someone who can help out.
Sorry to tell you, but your Riser 100 is in the sea. There's nothing but sheer cliff down to the sea right there. I know because I've been fishing from the rocks down there for 3 decades now. It very likely landed in the water just short of the nose of Howth. Downdrafts splay out at the base of those cliffs and the local birds use them regularly for ground effect soaring. Try up around Sally's gap in the Dublin mountains. I fly my RC planes there at times. Much easier to retrieve a wayward plane/glider. BTW, the Epsilon is a beauty.
i think as well the gorse presents a lot of drag and turbulence is therefore a factor as you are well over the brow of the hill.....perfect launch is when you throw it off the cliff into the thermal but landings can be a struggle as the wind can be dead pas a certain point....this has happened to me and i was left wondering what happened. Also flying in sideways to the slope is not ideal as you need to lift the wing closest to the slope on touchdown and this is not easy....otherwise you get a spin and it can break up the model. With full crow brakes the model should be slower on landing...yours is too fast assuming it was flying into the wind. nice model and nice flying
You don't want elevator down when against the strong wind and your glider was flying fast. Flaps is the best way to land gliders. If don't have flaps line against the wind and very little elevator down bit by bit loose altitude.
I really hope that you will recover the Riser 100, it is a fine plane. I am actually building one myself, right now, a 1988 unopened kit I just bought here in Norway. I am putting an electric motor in it though, and otherwise modifying it here and there. Can you get someone with a drone to search for the 100, or maybe spot it from a boat? I would love to see it fly again, as my bird still has at least a month until finished. Thank you for your nice videos, greetings from Northern Norway. 👍
Yes, it was a shame, I might use one of my drones to spot it and see if I can go down there to recover it, only if is not dangerous, I might have to use some rope.
@@Joyplanes If it was definitely in the ocean or in a few hundred pieces after hitting the rocks, by all means write it off. The hard part is going to sleep at night thinking what if it hit bushes and is caught up, or only slightly damaged. If you cannot get to it, maybe the. Drone could drop a thin rope over it and it could be pulled up. A small A frame hanging over the cliff edge would assist any line from pulling the plane over the rocks, rather it would pull the plane more vertically. If you can get within 10m or so, a long fishing pole with a wire hook may work. I use a 10m squid pole with a piece of coat hanger wire on the end to rescue things from the water or if it is stuck in a tree. Just a thought. I wish I could come over and assist you. It would make an awesome video
Hey, I am participating in a national level aeromodelling competition and I have to make a catapult launch non electric glider can you give some tips and also what is a good flight time for such a glider.
Nice video and beautiful surrounding. I have a question .. did you make real hinges on the Epsilon or did you stick with the original way the ailerons and flaps are hinged (on the covering). Thanks.
Your videos are so well put together, love that giant glider, what is the weight? Sorry to hear about the R100 though, hope you're able to do a find and rescue mission and video 😁
Too much energy on approach! Probably number one reason for rc crashes. Try not to come in so hot and then hold off for as long as you can which lets the model land itself as airspeed drops off.
Use the throttle stick for airbrakes/spoilers/crow . You don't need to manage the throttle on a glider . the engine is only used to climb fast at a steep angle . Use a 2 o 3 positions switch for that . For security, i also use a 2 position swich to deactivate the engine switch . I've seen enough severed hands and fingers during pre-flight check . For cliff soaring, looks where the rotors are, particulary with strong wind . The glider can lose instantaneously several meters of altitude during the landing approach .
get a simple foamie plane and practice landing. Throttle management is important. Try to get some altitude and pretend there is an invicible runway up in the sky, try as if you going to land. Learn the glider behavior at low speeds, when does it drop a wing, crow, brakes, elevator sensitivity as you mentioned. The Phoenix 2000 from HK is a good glider to learn and crash instead of your more expensive ones.
Really cool man!. I think we're better off not hearing the variometer. Lol ....All that beeping can become annoying for someone watching. It's a shame you lost your other glider.
Try to find someone with a drone - at least you will find out easily where it has gone down and if is still laying there in a safe position and finally you can look with the drone for a path or way to resue it - but I am too far away, but we did it in the alps and cliffs are nothing else except the coast line. If you find it you can try to rescue it. And: even with a copter you are able to rescue it depending on the position. If it is a deep sloap you can add a hook or lane to the copter and get it on the aileron simply to move it more down. Gravity helps - at least to rescue the battery and all the electronics. maybe someone has a boat and then you can better judge from where you can get there and which could be the best way to get it - or not. And you will get a final picture of its destiny.
Half the fun of the honby is repair ing it after a crash . it after a crash . I lost 2 in one day flying at a cemetary I lost sight of them for a moment and never found them again my wife said the spooks took them
Oh my. It's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. And its silent. I'm kicking my girlfriend out and building 3 of these. Who am I kidding? I don't have a girlfriend.
Preflight 1: Don't throw your glider off a cliff when the wind is coming from the wrong direction. Preflight 2: Make sure everything is bolted down. I'm sorry but I laughed out loud, can't wait for the video where you forget to switch on the receiver.
If you were really a man you'd put a tow hook 6 in a head of the CG and bungee launch it when is channel makes me want to throw up from motor on a glider disgusting .
The choice of landing area is critical for safety. I always low pass many times to test the best area without turbulence.
Hope you find your riser. I started my soaring journey over 25 years ago with a 2-meter glider called a gentle lady, now I fly paraglider’s definitely a addictive hobby. Keep soaring
thank you guys so much for keeping it real and showing your process/mistakes. respect! looking forward to all your vids dudes!
I love all your projects,thanks to you I am building my first ever rc plane from scratch!
That is awesome!
Love how AR Wing showed big brothers how it's done :)
I lost a Fokker tri plane in a wheat field and couldn't find it,till they plowed the field, and then I found little part's of it everywhere!! Know the feeling!!!
Wow beautiful planes! I need one now.
It’s always hard not to fly when you should not!
Awesome.
Libertad pura, con el viento, el mar y un grandioso planteador rc.
Saludos.
Your glider and build videos are my favorite. Thank you.
This is a great video. It captures the stress of it all! 🍻👍
When I see it! I think! Naguebona de avión jajaja. Great job bro!
Hey from Sandusky Ohio USA, Good ridge lift,,
I enJoy your flying,,,,
Balsa dust smells so good,,,,
Oh man! That's really sad that you lost the riser. That thing was cool. But luckily you still got to fly the other one. Anyways, cool video!
I keep 8 props, I like to break props. No i just belly land a lot and cant find a good folding prop around here. I buy the 8 x 3.8 props for $2.25 each APC brand I think. I get about 1 pound of thrust with my tiny rimfire. I bet it could get that huge glider up there with the help of the wind
I love gliders. I have a Blizzard 2m span V tail that is incredibly difficult to slow down. Quite heavy. I mixed in up elevator with down ailerons as speed brakes and that works very well. Took some experimenting to get the mix rates right. Might help your 4m span bird. My first bird was a Sig Riser. Built it over 20 years ago. 2 channels and lots of fun. Still have it. Happy flying.
Have you tried using the ailerons as spoilers (so both ailerons up) and mixing it with a bit of down elevator? The problem with ailerons down is that it may result in stalling really badly.
Se fue la helice... hay que tener huevos para eso! Great video!
If you have not already done so, talk to some glider pilots about ridge soaring. The landing was hard because it was across the wind, and perhaps in the 'grabbing hand' of turbulence behind the cliff.
Hi been flying and building gliders for over 45 years, drill out the noise for balance weight.
extending THE WING CENTRE WEBBING FOR BUNGE LUNCHING, and bracing the outer wing, cross bracing stops wobbling, elevator rear trailing edge with hardwood stiffing it up, , rudder fin leave the legs on(10mm) drill holes in the elevator stiffing it up to, 2mm plywood on the bottom front of the fuse.Past the wing trailing edge bulkhead stops gouging on landing.
I use clevises on both ends of both pushrods. rudder trailing edge straight up . we found when flying the way you had it wobbles. (helpful hints), flown and built a lot of gliders. hope all this helps for better flights. in strong winds on the slope put more weight in the fuse on the CG flys better.
The first 10 flights with a plane with a motor: open area NOT by the ocean, so that you can fetch the plane easily. You can use the motor time to time. The wing surfaces, ailerons, rudder, etc. need to be fine adjusted during these first flights to make controlling the plane smooth.
Make sure to secure the wings of the XL3, in addition to the multilocks, with clear packing tape. Using a windsock or streamers might have saved your glider. If you lost the prop of the XL3 as well you were lucky to get it back.
If topography permits, landing from the back of the cliff into the wind would be a safer aproach. Crow will not reduce speed much touching down with a tail wind. Make also sure that at full crow position flaps are down approx. 80 degrees. Considering your landing site make sure to release crow just before touchdown as not to damage the flaps.
Keep bringing this videos...
Thanks!
great pointers...and try and give yourself a generous approach unless already at expert level....try not to use up elevator at all once you commit to landing unless you really have to....you have to avoid flaring as it simply kills any chance of a good stable approach. Great to see you enjoying the hobby...its amazing and addictive... bravo.
beyond the Horizon there must be the UK, I guess. Looks beautifull, but cold too.
Yes the UK is somewhere, but I don't think it is possible to see it because it's too far.
@@Joyplanes But considering that I can see the alps from over 150 km distance on a sunny day clearly I guess you could see the UK there too, but only in the footage of your plane cause that will give you the elevation to overcome the earth curvature. Adults can see on a beach up to 4,7 km, childs only 3,6 km which shows the nature or challenge: I can only see the top of the mountains
You plane needs to get a bit higher to see something in 100 km at sea level. If there would be mountains it would be easier. Lake genever is also funny cause if the ferry crosses the lake and you watch it then the ships hull is getting smaller and you can only see the upper decks.
I like your content, but this one was hard to watch a plane disappearing so close to you is a tough fate and no rescue mission possible at least for now.
@@typxxilps Yes you can very clearly see Wales from this location and from the Wicklow mountains on a day with good visibility. It helps that Wales has a lot of mountains
Considering you lost the Riser 100 it might sound bad but I would call it also luck that you did not loose the Epsilon XL3.
No drone for a recue mission where the plane is ?
Ask the on fb inav community and I guess you will find someone that knows someone who can help out.
you guys need to give paragliding a shot!
Lucky you saved the glider. I just bought my first 4m. I'll be sure to not have that problem.
If you've got flaps on this one, set up crow braking for bringing it down in heavy lift.
I was hoping for dynamic soaring video from the title.
Great video guys..use clear packing tape on the sensitive spots on the plane.....it adds allot-of strength.
7:09 In the future, it's probably much safer and more effective to burn off excess energy with a forward slip, rather than by porpoising
Sorry to tell you, but your Riser 100 is in the sea. There's nothing but sheer cliff down to the sea right there. I know because I've been fishing from the rocks down there for 3 decades now. It very likely landed in the water just short of the nose of Howth. Downdrafts splay out at the base of those cliffs and the local birds use them regularly for ground effect soaring. Try up around Sally's gap in the Dublin mountains. I fly my RC planes there at times. Much easier to retrieve a wayward plane/glider.
BTW, the Epsilon is a beauty.
4m is very cool, how much invested
i think as well the gorse presents a lot of drag and turbulence is therefore a factor as you are well over the brow of the hill.....perfect launch is when you throw it off the cliff into the thermal but landings can be a struggle as the wind can be dead pas a certain point....this has happened to me and i was left wondering what happened. Also flying in sideways to the slope is not ideal as you need to lift the wing closest to the slope on touchdown and this is not easy....otherwise you get a spin and it can break up the model. With full crow brakes the model should be slower on landing...yours is too fast assuming it was flying into the wind. nice model and nice flying
Please make an Aerobatic plane
What country do you guys come from?
Love your videos, too bad you lost the riser 100.
You don't want elevator down when against the strong wind and your glider was flying fast. Flaps is the best way to land gliders. If don't have flaps line against the wind and very little elevator down bit by bit loose altitude.
You land at the back of you. Heading towards the water is the best way to land.
You didn't ground test the motor / prop..???...Really?....That's schoolboy error..🤔😳🇬🇧
How heavy ?
Can you please make a slow flyer for backyard flying
I was thinking to make a foam board glider for slope soaring, a small one.
I really hope that you will recover the Riser 100, it is a fine plane. I am actually building one myself, right now, a 1988 unopened kit I just bought here in Norway. I am putting an electric motor in it though, and otherwise modifying it here and there. Can you get someone with a drone to search for the 100, or maybe spot it from a boat? I would love to see it fly again, as my bird still has at least a month until finished. Thank you for your nice videos, greetings from Northern Norway. 👍
Why are you flying over water?
Really sorry to see the riser 100 go down. Do you have a drone. It might be an option to spot it, then maybe mount a rescue attempt.
Yes, it was a shame, I might use one of my drones to spot it and see if I can go down there to recover it, only if is not dangerous, I might have to use some rope.
@@Joyplanes If it was definitely in the ocean or in a few hundred pieces after hitting the rocks, by all means write it off. The hard part is going to sleep at night thinking what if it hit bushes and is caught up, or only slightly damaged. If you cannot get to it, maybe the. Drone could drop a thin rope over it and it could be pulled up. A small A frame hanging over the cliff edge would assist any line from pulling the plane over the rocks, rather it would pull the plane more vertically. If you can get within 10m or so, a long fishing pole with a wire hook may work. I use a 10m squid pole with a piece of coat hanger wire on the end to rescue things from the water or if it is stuck in a tree. Just a thought. I wish I could come over and assist you. It would make an awesome video
Hey, I am participating in a national level aeromodelling competition and I have to make a catapult launch non electric glider can you give some tips and also what is a good flight time for such a glider.
Very nice! A little bit difficult to control
Yes, thanks
cool
Hi guys number one rule when slope sawing, always turn away from the slope, when close to the slope
Nice video and beautiful surrounding. I have a question .. did you make real hinges on the Epsilon or did you stick with the original way the ailerons and flaps are hinged (on the covering). Thanks.
My son fly pylon, which gon nearly 300kms a hour. They use super glue (CA) on cracks like that, cheers Graham
Thanks!
What do you recommend for a beginner that knows a bit about electronics but is new to the hobby?(I flew FPV drones) which build?(or maybe a RTF, bnf)
I would recommend a kit, but an RTF is also fun.
Your videos are so well put together, love that giant glider, what is the weight? Sorry to hear about the R100 though, hope you're able to do a find and rescue mission and video 😁
The Epsilon XL3 is 4Kg. Thanks for your comment and your wishes.
If you've never crashed you haven't been flying long enough
Too much energy on approach! Probably number one reason for rc crashes. Try not to come in so hot and then hold off for as long as you can which lets the model land itself as airspeed drops off.
I put my first name and mobile number in the fuse .if the glider is lost.
Use the throttle stick for airbrakes/spoilers/crow . You don't need to manage the throttle on a glider . the engine is only used to climb fast at a steep angle . Use a 2 o 3 positions switch for that . For security, i also use a 2 position swich to deactivate the engine switch . I've seen enough severed hands and fingers during pre-flight check . For cliff soaring, looks where the rotors are, particulary with strong wind . The glider can lose instantaneously several meters of altitude during the landing approach .
Is si beautiful your big glider, i never have a glider but i will buy/make in future one
get a simple foamie plane and practice landing. Throttle management is important. Try to get some altitude and pretend there is an invicible runway up in the sky, try as if you going to land. Learn the glider behavior at low speeds, when does it drop a wing, crow, brakes, elevator sensitivity as you mentioned.
The Phoenix 2000 from HK is a good glider to learn and crash instead of your more expensive ones.
I've done great landings with other kind of planes, but this glider is too big. Thanks for the advice
Really cool man!. I think we're better off not hearing the variometer. Lol ....All that beeping can become annoying for someone watching. It's a shame you lost your other glider.
Trial and Error Go for It
Did U find the spinner? Lol, sorry bad joke
I don't use spinners anymore because they just make problems
So it doesn't look very niche but it works so...
Spinners will make it more aerodynamic, specially for a glider and folding propellers.
@@Joyplanes you could use a drone to spot the lost glider
@@Jakob-hj8es I was thinking about that, I'll try to do it next time.
Try to find someone with a drone - at least you will find out easily where it has gone down and if is still laying there in a safe position and finally you can look with the drone for a path or way to resue it - but I am too far away, but we did it in the alps and cliffs are nothing else except the coast line. If you find it you can try to rescue it.
And: even with a copter you are able to rescue it depending on the position. If it is a deep sloap you can add a hook or lane to the copter and get it on the aileron simply to move it more down. Gravity helps - at least to rescue the battery and all the electronics. maybe someone has a boat and then you can better judge from where you can get there and which could be the best way to get it - or not. And you will get a final picture of its destiny.
Half the fun of the honby is repair ing it after a crash . it after a crash . I lost 2 in one day flying at a cemetary I lost sight of them for a moment and never found them again my wife said the spooks took them
✌🏼
Get a drone to go down and locate the plane before you risk yourself
I like do much this english version🙂
I flew gliders off of cliffs for years above the beach and never needed a prop.
Oh my. It's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. And its silent.
I'm kicking my girlfriend out and building 3 of these.
Who am I kidding? I don't have a girlfriend.
Well, that was a lot of talking!
Preflight 1: Don't throw your glider off a cliff when the wind is coming from the wrong direction.
Preflight 2: Make sure everything is bolted down.
I'm sorry but I laughed out loud, can't wait for the video where you forget to switch on the receiver.
The wing span should be 50cm maximum (tournament rules
It cannot be more than 50 cm please reply
PLEASE LOSE THE ACID ROCK MUSIC.
NOT A GLIDER GLIDERS HAVE STRUTS NOT A SAILPLANE A POWERED SAILPLANE
If you were really a man you'd put a tow hook 6 in a head of the CG and bungee launch it when is channel makes me want to throw up from motor on a glider disgusting .