Fletch!!! Good on you for getting the Cdn footage in! You'll be up to 1/2 soon enough! (note to US watchers: Our race categories are slightly different in that we have no Cat 5. So road races are typically a E1/2, then a E3, then a E4. Upgrades are full point based. Criteriums like this are typically mixed in with Masters (35+), with the E3 category being mixed in with M2 (masters have only categories 1, 2 and 3). You can see the mixed field by looking at the numbers - 200 series for Masters, 300 for Elite.
203bpm's there at the end. DAMN! I could feel the pain just thinking about having to put out 500+W while my heart is beating so fast. a sprint at such a high bpm id honestly be afraid of losing consiocness and becoming concussed and at such a high speed, that crash would be pretty heavy! great commentary and hats off to the rider. going through his own trials and tribulations but sure enough, He'll become an even better racer than already is!
I found your channel a month or two ago and you inspired me to start racing! I’m only 15 so I have a long road ahead of me, but I just wanted to show some appreciation for you and your channel. Could you possibly post some more videos on how to train for the racing season? It would help other amateurs like me. Thanks!
@Seppe De Vos Joined my first crit and felt really strong until about the 2nd lap when I crashed. Because I was in the mid pack, My teammate who is stronger than me stayed near the front. I guess I was scared of getting tired that's why I stayed back but how do I get stronger so I can ride in the front? I used to be stronger than my teammate actually he started training harder more often. Do I train hard everyday with little to no rest days like he did?
You're doing a great job and I really enjoy the race commentary and analysis. I raced in the Sacramento area for years (I haven't been racing lately) and it is really cool to see analysis of races I have done. Keep up the good work.
Duuude, just wanted to say thank you as i ran into your channel several weeks ago and been watching your videos and that got me inspired into getting back to cycling, now training and working on getting fit again. Keep on what you do! 🤘🏽
I concur. Communication happens from the back ->forward. I was very often the designated sprinter, and we had all sorts of shorthand commands. If I got pushed off my leadout's wheel I'd tell them to shift left/right and they'd bring the line to me rather than me fighting to get my wheel. I gotta tell ya, it's a great feeling when some guy is like 'sweet! I'm totally hijacking this leadout!" to have it shift over and leave him hung out in the wind. It was also not uncommon for someone to insert themselves into the train, and I could see my leadoffs hesitate when they didn't see me. No problem, I KNOW that guy is going for the sprint, I'll use him as my final launch- shout forward to my boys to keep going. So important when you have teammates to string out the last few laps and keep the pace high. I can't tell you how many times going from cat4 to 3 and still sometimes in the cat 3s I'd be swarmed after a late race effort to pull something back, be hopelessly out of position, only to have to box up on the last lap, find a gap, shoot through it, and bam! right back into the mix. And even if you can't see your sprinter and have to improvise, if your sprinter is back there, if it slows down and boxes up only the people on the edges can move, everyone else is boxed in. String it out, open it up, and give your sprinter-assuming they're there- a chance to find an 'out' and improvise a finish. Last thing was we had a drill- there were a few strong rival sprinters who often didn't have much in the way of teammates who figured out that when our line formed and I was positioned, they could shadow me and pop around at the last moment and pip me at the line. So it was up to me, if I knew they were there, to switch my role from sprinter to sweeper. We had a code that I'd call out and it would get passed forward. My job then was to let the gap open when the final acceleration happened, and 6 or 8 bike lengths could open before they figured out what was happening. And at 40 mph and with the road shrinking fast that's a huge deficit to overcome.
related story: four corner downtown crit. My teammate had crashed out mid race on one of the corners, broke his collarbone, so I was alone. Decided I couldn't let a late break win like that so resolved myself to bringing it back on principle. Had the gap down to 3 or 5 seconds going into two to go, there was a huge surge to finally close the gap, I couldn't respond, and suddenly I was mid field and hopelessly out of position. Coming into the start finish with one to go the front balked at leading out the field and everything boxed up. The peloton was shaped like a barbell with two big balls of riders and I was in the middle. Going into the first turn the front slowed down and swung wide and the whole group in front of me went with them, (looking for someone *else* to lead out the field) and suddenly I was looking at a clear inside line into the first turn carrying all my speed. From my time on the front I knew that the first two turns were close enough together that the best line was to treat them as one big180 degree turn. No hesitation I shot right to the front, went inside, outside, inside through the corners at full speed. Pushed hard enough on the back straight (slightly downhill) that no one challenged me for the last two corners, which were tight, popped out onto the finishing straight, listened for the guy who was on my wheel to uncover and stand up, and outsprinted him, won by a wheel. In these short technical crits if you have a chance to get to the front in the last lap, take it. If you have a chance to be the first one through the last turn, take it.
Really enjoying your channel. I’m just a commuter and don’t have the legs for racing, but really having fun learning and daydreaming on my way to work!
i grew up around here! and since watching your videos i'd actually debated trying a entry level race and debated actually going for this one next year, looks like a good one and i know that route really well..
Very good video as always. This whole race seemed insanely painful though. So many surges and such a high heart rate, seems like the competition is tough in Canada. Kudos to the racer
I won beer at a race in the US. I’m 17, so I gave it to the guy who got 4th because no one in my family drinks (any more). He was super happy, and it felt amazing to make someone that happy lol
6:10 I'm from the area and I've raced this before which is why I was so surprised when you said you went all the way from cat 5 to racing p/1/2 races in a year. I thought p/1/2 wasn't that far off cat 3 every where. Getting points to upgrade from cat 3 can be quite tough.
To the rider who sent in the video. Did you take a pre workout or anything before this race? Or is your HR usually on the higher side? Either way Very impressive performance!
Thanks Damien! My pre workout consists of bananas and blueberries lol. My HR runs pretty high maxing out at 208bpm. Average HR was 181 this race. It was a pretty hot day too so that raised my HR by a few bpm.
Jeff, around the @5:30 mark you’re talking about his teammates launching another counter-attack. What’s are the conditions that need to be met to make you say that’s what needs to happen? My teammates and I talk race strategy a good amount (we’re 3/4 level) and ultimately decide against launching attacks all race most of the time because we don’t really have the power to survive in a break. If we’re caught, everybody else is just drafting and saving their energy which is a disadvantage to us. We’re all ~ 290 to 320w for 20 minute riders that can dig deep at 380w+ for 5 mins. I just don’t know what race conditions launching countless attacks makes sense.
It forces somebody to chase or try and bridge. Usually they screw it up and the breakaway wins, especially in the 3/4 field because people don't know how to effectively chase. If you time your attacks right it'll hurt them much more than it hurts you, that's the whole point.
pro world-tour riders and long term athletes have really low heartrates, I think Froomy has a max HR of less than 160. You can’t really compare heart rates between people.
@@khaki.shorts you're saying you can't compare heart rates between people (which I agree with) but then you go on to say about someone else's heart rate? Make your mind up my guy
why would a team of 3 ever have all their riders up the road in an early break? IMO, Fletch should have waited for the counter instead of bridging to his teammates.
This is a Master 2 Race I think. I know a few guys are masters. Sometimes at crits they mix master 2 and senior 3 together. In Ontario we have 3 Master ability cats. Master 1 being the top. On occasion master 1 get thrown into Senior 1/2
It's a great course and atmosphere. I missed it this year as well. I haven't done Preston yet, but TDVI is tops for atmosphere from the ones I've done, with KW second.
I bike up a 800 ft mountain every week,,even coming down I can't obtain anything faster then 40 mph,,yet your readout has you at 45 mph plus on some sprints,,I'd have to see that,,its amazing
The commentary is what sets this channel above the rest. One of the best on youtube of any genre.
deadass. not a cycler here but i've just watched like 8 vids in a row cuz the commentary is so damn interesting
This guy did so many micro 800 W surges, hit 1000 W a few times, and still had enough for 1150. Very strong legs on this guy.
Very strong
11:11 shoutout to the married couple on the left
I think its just a woman wearing dress and a black purse
прикольно))
@@zomb7138 lol dog a wedding dress is pretty distinctive, and thats definitely a wedding dress
It was the most beautiful wedding I've ever seen while racing a bike
big l well I meant a wedding dress when I said "dress"
Fletch!!! Good on you for getting the Cdn footage in! You'll be up to 1/2 soon enough! (note to US watchers: Our race categories are slightly different in that we have no Cat 5. So road races are typically a E1/2, then a E3, then a E4. Upgrades are full point based. Criteriums like this are typically mixed in with Masters (35+), with the E3 category being mixed in with M2 (masters have only categories 1, 2 and 3). You can see the mixed field by looking at the numbers - 200 series for Masters, 300 for Elite.
Thanks James! Hopefully I'll get enough points at TDVI !!
Same as UK crits then
whoa sounds like our categories should work like yours do
203bpm's there at the end. DAMN! I could feel the pain just thinking about having to put out 500+W while my heart is beating so fast. a sprint at such a high bpm id honestly be afraid of losing consiocness and becoming concussed and at such a high speed, that crash would be pretty heavy! great commentary and hats off to the rider. going through his own trials and tribulations but sure enough, He'll become an even better racer than already is!
so glad someone sent in footage of this race so cool to see people I know in your vids
203BPM straight after finish and I thought that he has burned everything at 198.
I found your channel a month or two ago and you inspired me to start racing! I’m only 15 so I have a long road ahead of me, but I just wanted to show some appreciation for you and your channel. Could you possibly post some more videos on how to train for the racing season? It would help other amateurs like me. Thanks!
If you look hard enough he already has, how he prepares for his racing season.
Exactly the same Situation for me :)
@Seppe De Vos Joined my first crit and felt really strong until about the 2nd lap when I crashed. Because I was in the mid pack, My teammate who is stronger than me stayed near the front. I guess I was scared of getting tired that's why I stayed back but how do I get stronger so I can ride in the front? I used to be stronger than my teammate actually he started training harder more often. Do I train hard everyday with little to no rest days like he did?
5:41 a bike rider almost riding into the field :O
His HR at the end was 203. I’ve been there a few times and that’s where I start getting tunnel vision and blacking out. Glad he survived🍻
14:18 he unclipped in the sprint lol
You're doing a great job and I really enjoy the race commentary and analysis. I raced in the Sacramento area for years (I haven't been racing lately) and it is really cool to see analysis of races I have done. Keep up the good work.
Duuude, just wanted to say thank you as i ran into your channel several weeks ago and been watching your videos and that got me inspired into getting back to cycling, now training and working on getting fit again. Keep on what you do! 🤘🏽
Morning Glory Cycling Club: We're well UP for this race
I concur. Communication happens from the back ->forward. I was very often the designated sprinter, and we had all sorts of shorthand commands. If I got pushed off my leadout's wheel I'd tell them to shift left/right and they'd bring the line to me rather than me fighting to get my wheel. I gotta tell ya, it's a great feeling when some guy is like 'sweet! I'm totally hijacking this leadout!" to have it shift over and leave him hung out in the wind. It was also not uncommon for someone to insert themselves into the train, and I could see my leadoffs hesitate when they didn't see me. No problem, I KNOW that guy is going for the sprint, I'll use him as my final launch- shout forward to my boys to keep going. So important when you have teammates to string out the last few laps and keep the pace high. I can't tell you how many times going from cat4 to 3 and still sometimes in the cat 3s I'd be swarmed after a late race effort to pull something back, be hopelessly out of position, only to have to box up on the last lap, find a gap, shoot through it, and bam! right back into the mix. And even if you can't see your sprinter and have to improvise, if your sprinter is back there, if it slows down and boxes up only the people on the edges can move, everyone else is boxed in. String it out, open it up, and give your sprinter-assuming they're there- a chance to find an 'out' and improvise a finish. Last thing was we had a drill- there were a few strong rival sprinters who often didn't have much in the way of teammates who figured out that when our line formed and I was positioned, they could shadow me and pop around at the last moment and pip me at the line. So it was up to me, if I knew they were there, to switch my role from sprinter to sweeper. We had a code that I'd call out and it would get passed forward. My job then was to let the gap open when the final acceleration happened, and 6 or 8 bike lengths could open before they figured out what was happening. And at 40 mph and with the road shrinking fast that's a huge deficit to overcome.
related story: four corner downtown crit. My teammate had crashed out mid race on one of the corners, broke his collarbone, so I was alone. Decided I couldn't let a late break win like that so resolved myself to bringing it back on principle. Had the gap down to 3 or 5 seconds going into two to go, there was a huge surge to finally close the gap, I couldn't respond, and suddenly I was mid field and hopelessly out of position. Coming into the start finish with one to go the front balked at leading out the field and everything boxed up. The peloton was shaped like a barbell with two big balls of riders and I was in the middle. Going into the first turn the front slowed down and swung wide and the whole group in front of me went with them, (looking for someone *else* to lead out the field) and suddenly I was looking at a clear inside line into the first turn carrying all my speed. From my time on the front I knew that the first two turns were close enough together that the best line was to treat them as one big180 degree turn. No hesitation I shot right to the front, went inside, outside, inside through the corners at full speed. Pushed hard enough on the back straight (slightly downhill) that no one challenged me for the last two corners, which were tight, popped out onto the finishing straight, listened for the guy who was on my wheel to uncover and stand up, and outsprinted him, won by a wheel. In these short technical crits if you have a chance to get to the front in the last lap, take it. If you have a chance to be the first one through the last turn, take it.
who's the one guy who gave this vid a thumbs down?! great analysis
Really enjoying your channel. I’m just a commuter and don’t have the legs for racing, but really having fun learning and daydreaming on my way to work!
I was volunteering for this event and man these guys were fast!!
i grew up around here! and since watching your videos i'd actually debated trying a entry level race and debated actually going for this one next year, looks like a good one and i know that route really well..
Our team loved it. So, most naturally we subscribed.
Nice to see you guys up north. Love the video's. Thanks for the tips.
Very good video as always.
This whole race seemed insanely painful though. So many surges and such a high heart rate, seems like the competition is tough in Canada. Kudos to the racer
Good commentary...nailed it. Get it Fletch!
The heart rate on this guy, my GOSH!
Your commentary is both entertaining and educational. Thanks for sharing!!
Awesome to see some races in my area! Great video!
Love these videos man. Who would’ve thought... bike racing?!?
Awesome vid, my team helped put on the even. I raced Cat 3 as a junior and won the beer preme (I’m 17 so went to dad)
I race with you!!
I won beer at a race in the US. I’m 17, so I gave it to the guy who got 4th because no one in my family drinks (any more). He was super happy, and it felt amazing to make someone that happy lol
Man his heart rate is wild...great race bro...
Learning a lot from the commentary. Thanks!
6:10 I'm from the area and I've raced this before which is why I was so surprised when you said you went all the way from cat 5 to racing p/1/2 races in a year. I thought p/1/2 wasn't that far off cat 3 every where. Getting points to upgrade from cat 3 can be quite tough.
Yeah! I was there! The circuit was near the Victoria park and the Charles street terminal.
Ballery...thanks for the new vocabulary word!
To the rider who sent in the video. Did you take a pre workout or anything before this race? Or is your HR usually on the higher side? Either way Very impressive performance!
Thanks Damien! My pre workout consists of bananas and blueberries lol. My HR runs pretty high maxing out at 208bpm. Average HR was 181 this race. It was a pretty hot day too so that raised my HR by a few bpm.
Jeff, around the @5:30 mark you’re talking about his teammates launching another counter-attack. What’s are the conditions that need to be met to make you say that’s what needs to happen?
My teammates and I talk race strategy a good amount (we’re 3/4 level) and ultimately decide against launching attacks all race most of the time because we don’t really have the power to survive in a break. If we’re caught, everybody else is just drafting and saving their energy which is a disadvantage to us. We’re all ~ 290 to 320w for 20 minute riders that can dig deep at 380w+ for 5 mins. I just don’t know what race conditions launching countless attacks makes sense.
It forces somebody to chase or try and bridge. Usually they screw it up and the breakaway wins, especially in the 3/4 field because people don't know how to effectively chase. If you time your attacks right it'll hurt them much more than it hurts you, that's the whole point.
NorCal Cycling Gotcha that makes sense. Maybe we’ll give it a try at Gateway Cup this weekend!
Oh snap! My home town race! 🤙
just thinking about getting my heart rate up over 190 for as long as this rider did made me tired.
I'm still recovering
@@fruitbatfletch Chapeau for the effort!
Thank you, sir.
When he's chasing that two man break for a few minutes around 7:40, he's def stuck in no man's land between groups
Another fantastic video, thank you.
I wish you got more lower category footage, because I can actually relate to the power numbers.
Wow, hugh learning video here. I was yelling at my monitor! LOL
Those Cat3Memes socks at 1:45
203 bpm after his sprint. That's pretty crazy.
It's all relative tbh. It really means nothing to anyone else.
@@dan110024 exactly, I can see my heart rate hit 220 if I'm really balls out and fairly fresh
pro world-tour riders and long term athletes have really low heartrates, I think Froomy has a max HR of less than 160. You can’t really compare heart rates between people.
@@khaki.shorts you're saying you can't compare heart rates between people (which I agree with) but then you go on to say about someone else's heart rate? Make your mind up my guy
Cheers from Brazil .
4:20 what's going on with their speed and 400w
sorry but I'm first
and that's the only time I'll be able to say it, relating to crit racing...
why would a team of 3 ever have all their riders up the road in an early break? IMO, Fletch should have waited for the counter instead of bridging to his teammates.
I know a handful of people from KW and from Kallisto in that race, I live in Toronto
Wow.. i need to start pedaling more 😬
Are the on board stats accurate? E.g. 4.28 mins he's pushing 309 watts but going 8mph? Maybe there is a time lag... but noticed it throughout the vid?
gps error
what is your 20 minute power
What is the name of the app you are using for record your activities
Dashware. I made a video about it, check out my channel
1:43 what is the colour crossing for???
LGBQT
This is a Master 2 Race I think. I know a few guys are masters. Sometimes at crits they mix master 2 and senior 3 together.
In Ontario we have 3 Master ability cats. Master 1 being the top. On occasion master 1 get thrown into Senior 1/2
dude is strong!
Thanks bro 💪🏿
I can say that Cat 3 in Canada look like Cat A in Malaysia.
203BPM, please tell me that's the heart of a teenager
I like to think that I'm a teenager at heart 😂
What are the cameras that you are using?
Gopro Hero4 Session
Awesome video.
I had a heartache just looking at the BPM
Which camera on the bike??
gopro hero 7 black
NorCal Cycling its support speed sensors on wahoo element ??
I was supposed to take part in this event (Lowest Category), but I broke my clavicle leading up to it. Sigh.... maybe next year.
It's a great course and atmosphere. I missed it this year as well. I haven't done Preston yet, but TDVI is tops for atmosphere from the ones I've done, with KW second.
Hope you have a full recovery, David. See you on the road...
@@fruitbatfletch Thank you Fletch, the recovery is coming along just great. Doing the Big Ride this weekend. Take it easy!
I bet it's FruitbatFletch !
In the flesh 😎
@@fruitbatfletch Nice race man!
Thanks man
His data is not lined up...he said he was doing 28mph and climbing while coasting.
It's lined up, just speed is inconsistent bc he had bad gps data
Was that 47mph at peak ?
Nope, bad gps data
awesome!
45 mph when he was on that dudes wheel catching the break!!! wow
That speed was just bullshit all over the race, but the power seemed reliable
Team Win Cycling Center good guys +1
45 mph??? Holy bike. hahahaha
心地良い発音だな
Serious redline
i know that he's 10 leagues above me when i see the sprint to a 68kph on a flat road...
That's not accurate. It's bad gps data
went junior straight to Cat 1
its free so i subscribed
I hope everyone is just trolling on the heart rate comments. Everyone’s max bpm is different and it doesn’t matter
peep me on right side at 3:08
👀
I bike up a 800 ft mountain every week,,even coming down I can't obtain anything faster then 40 mph,,yet your readout has you at 45 mph plus on some sprints,,I'd have to see that,,its amazing
That was a total sketch finish. Looks like the dude on the left torqued his foot out of the pedal.
Motor vehicle speeds. Wow
11:12. Anyone else notice the wedding dress on the sidewalk? Is this why I never win sprints?
200 bpm woow
It's 2019, and everyone is on rim brakes.
1:17 @cat3memes socks
204bpm I'd be dead
>200bpm HR. 😱
203!!!
Did he take drugs?
cat 3 who cares
Multiple 800W sprints, 200bpm, this kid is going to do well