The BIGGEST Boat on our List | Too Big or Just Right | Shannon 43 | S05E05

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    This week we’re checking out a Shannon 43, the biggest sailboat on our list, to see if a boat with three cabins would be better suited for our sailing family. This huge, beautiful boat is an example of a classic American yacht that checks all of our boxes. Could this be Atticus II?
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ความคิดเห็น • 984

  • @hapnewsom9217
    @hapnewsom9217 3 ปีที่แล้ว +293

    The only point I would ask you to consider is "it's better to grow INTO a boat than OUT of a boat. "

    • @davebrixey9060
      @davebrixey9060 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We luv this. Thank you.

    • @MaShcode
      @MaShcode 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      👍🏻👍🏻

    • @Hannah-fe6bo
      @Hannah-fe6bo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Good point

    • @dasimparmy2289
      @dasimparmy2289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was going to ask that question myself.

    • @vxnova1
      @vxnova1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yea plus it is mind boggling how much space kids take up

  • @robertryan627
    @robertryan627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    The thing I would tell you is, “ you can upgrade everything, and you can fix anything, but you can’t make it bigger.” Get the size now!

    • @darcyferrigno
      @darcyferrigno 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's like buying property. You can always upgrade the house but you can't change the property or view.

    • @joshuafranklin2341
      @joshuafranklin2341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Agreed, kids NEED much more space than you may realize; especially with your introvert side. If you want even a small moment of peace you NEED a big boat.

    • @steveturansky9031
      @steveturansky9031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed. It's a big ocean and it makes a big boat seem small. It makes a small boat seem very tiny. It's easy to get used to controlling a bigger boat. While bigger boats have some bigger systems, smaller boat still have those systems like engine, batteries, sails, rigging, steering, electronics/navigation, water maker, dinghy, refrigeration, etc.
      All the boats you would consider have them and they all take maintenance. In many cases, due to space constraints, it may be easier to do the maintenance on a bigger boat than a smaller one. It's certainly easier (typically) to find storage for spares and tools on a bigger boat. Maintenance will obviously cost more on a bigger boat for some systems but on many, it won't make a significant difference.

    • @jimhill4771
      @jimhill4771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Go as big as you can manage! Go for it!

    • @glenn2745
      @glenn2745 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      LWL also really matters in big seas.

  • @anthonymiller8989
    @anthonymiller8989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Tony & Susan here, You may have made the decision already but if not. Stick to your budget and make them an offer without considering there feelings.

    • @pjorgerod522
      @pjorgerod522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just try to help, but remember ALWAYS that the initial cost is one part of the investment you first made. In 5-10 years the real cost is maintenance and in 43 feet boat, up always up! Big hug, Paul

    • @danssalem
      @danssalem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Can Thonn Although not the prettiest solution, brightwork can be painted and then returned to varnish at any point.

  • @johanstang8298
    @johanstang8298 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    What a beautiful boat!
    The layout with the two aft cabins is perfect, especially with the bunk bed in one of them for kids.
    Remember with kids on board one pair of hands will be busy taking care of them. The possibility to comfortably have guests to help with the kids or the sailing is pure gold!

    • @peeceejay
      @peeceejay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is something I was thinking as I watched - with kids, there will be no more 2 adult passages. No way. You’ll NEED a third adult at that point - it won’t be optional.

  • @billy4147
    @billy4147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I own a shannon 43. As the boat ages you sure appreciate the care and attention Walt and his team paid to make sure the boat will out live him. Not many boats today are made so that the future owners can replace components 20 years after they left the yard. Easily one of the best sail boats ever built.

  • @SailingLucaya
    @SailingLucaya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I think you could find a Shannon 43 for cheaper. They also make a Shannon 37, 38 and 39. The 38 has a full keel. I sail a 1980 Shannon 38 Cutter. Doing a maintenance coat of varnish on the exterior once or twice a year really isn’t that big of a deal, takes me about 3 hrs. The cockpit it big enough to sleep in, basically adding 2 extra beds when the weather is right! Incredible ventilation with all the opening ports and hatches and dorades for down below. I can sail in 5 knots of wind, The boat sails great in light wind and heavy weather. My boat has the traditional headsail (135 Genoa) and smaller staysail so I don’t know anything about the scutter design, but please reach out if you have any questions. Also, one of the perks of owning a Shannon is that the company is still around, Bill Ramos answers the phone and has been of tremendous help in my refit. I love my Shannon!

    • @nivardmalcolm3495
      @nivardmalcolm3495 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You said it takes you 3 hrs to do the maintenance on the outside Varnishing. Could you please explain how you are able to do this in 3 hrs. Do you do one coat of varnish or two.

  • @RangerR61
    @RangerR61 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    My first thought is buy it. The boat has room for a guest and more importantly a family. This larger living space will be invaluable when spats arise between siblings. I really like this boat.

    • @ratusbagus
      @ratusbagus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tinaanddavidH a door to slam can be invaluable....

  • @carlnelson8927
    @carlnelson8927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The idea behind the Shannon Scudder rig is that the Yankee is for use in higher winds. You can carry that to 40+ knots with the Genoa furled. As you probably know, partly furled genoa's don't sail particularly well. The Yankee has good shape and by being far forward it helps balance the steering in heavy wind. Better than the cutter rig where the small jib is too close to the mast to balance the helm. Don't worry about that boat offshore - all Shannon's are built to circumnavigate. And the 43's do. But unlike a deep keel boat, you can take take a Shannon 43 to the Bahamas - and I guarantee you'll want to go there. If you have any questions, call Shannon in RI. They'll remember building that particular boat and what was special about her.

  • @markpfeifer1402
    @markpfeifer1402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'm excited for you guys! The Shannon 43 was my favorite so far. I have expensive taste, obviously 😆

  • @sailingsomeday5975
    @sailingsomeday5975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Looks like the fridge has a side door so with a bit of thought...no need to worry about counter space.

    • @flaneur5560
      @flaneur5560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah I think we were all shouting that at her.

    • @TheMajorchutzpah
      @TheMajorchutzpah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thought I saw a front door on the fridge too....!

    • @TheSeatug
      @TheSeatug 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can also get a custom cutting board made that fits over the galley sink, giving you more prep space.

    • @flaneur5560
      @flaneur5560 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Tim Sawyer Is that for good sailing or for fast sailing though?

    • @meefeenewme6767
      @meefeenewme6767 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You don't need to heal a boat over for good sailing unless you are racing which you need a cleaned out boat with no weight and humans sitting on the toe rail are your weight. Cruising us about ticking over average speed, looking after the boat, being safe.

  • @HPMvdBerg
    @HPMvdBerg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Hope to see a Najad soon, when RAN sailing choose that boat I completely understood; what a beauty!

    • @IanB22
      @IanB22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      True

    • @willyum1208
      @willyum1208 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was going to comment to stay away from teak decks but the one theyre going to look at actually has no teak decks :-O

    • @MudLogger
      @MudLogger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I second the Najad. great boat , but hard to find in the US. Opens up a whole new can of EU worms. Would you get more bang for your dollar in a market with a higher supply of boats for sale?. It might be better to start Atticus 2 from the Med on a Najad.. lol

    • @HPMvdBerg
      @HPMvdBerg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MudLogger That sounds like a plan that could work when there is no pandemic.

    • @emilybh6255
      @emilybh6255 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Najad is nowhere near as pretty as the Shannon. It just does not have the graceful classic lines.

  • @debakey7111
    @debakey7111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Two comments - you can install a circular shower curtain in the wet head. We had one in our Tartan 42 and it worked great. Also, my woodworking hubby made me a large tray that fit exactly on top of the fridge. I worked on that to prep food and if I needed to get in the fridge I just lifted the whole tray off and set it on the sink then moved it back. There's always a solution for those little irritations.

  • @ThePetejb
    @ThePetejb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey Jordan, top tip. When you do have a full crew, switch to 3 on 6 off. The reduction of 1 hour from the on watch team is really noticeable and 6 hours is tons of sleep

  • @STONEDARTphotos
    @STONEDARTphotos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I worked with Shannon Boat in the latter 70's and can attest to the fact that these are up there with the best quality boats ever.

  • @tomatobrush3283
    @tomatobrush3283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    There is 1997 Shannon 43 on for $199k on Yatchworld in Virginia. Has solar panels as well.👍👍

  • @jenniferamsden3758
    @jenniferamsden3758 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The foot controls at the bow look more like windlass controls. Looks like a gorgeous boat.

    • @hughvanduyn6482
      @hughvanduyn6482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I noticed 2 sets of foot controls up there. I think the ones to starboard was the thruster and the ones he was pointing to were the winch. 🤔

    • @danchase3012
      @danchase3012 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hughvanduyn6482 I have this same boat, the starboard foot switches are for the windlass!

  • @robertadamsmetaldetecting6324
    @robertadamsmetaldetecting6324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    That is a gorgeous yacht! Looks like an Atticus II to me!

  • @jamesborella4115
    @jamesborella4115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The emotional feeling I get when I see this boat is off the charts.

    • @MrA1582000
      @MrA1582000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too. Awesome boat.

  • @captpeady2176
    @captpeady2176 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Offer them 200K and spend time in the Bahamas raising your crew, then cross the Pacific.

    • @michaelholliday100
      @michaelholliday100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I would offer less... Even the Broker stated that it should be between $150 & $200k. That plus it has been on the market for awhile tells you that it is over priced. Sometimes sellers tend to put emotional value into the price. You cannot pay for the emotional value that it has become to them. I would offer $165k and wait for a counter offer, hopefully settling at about $175k...

    • @MaShcode
      @MaShcode 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If they do decide to get it I call dibs on the top bunk. 🐒

    • @emilybh6255
      @emilybh6255 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't food expensive and hard to come by in the Bahamas (as in not many supermarkets)?

    • @blaircooper9194
      @blaircooper9194 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There is a Shannon 43 several docks over from this one that is 195. It’s older but is set up with better canvas and already has a wind vane.

    • @michaelholliday100
      @michaelholliday100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@emilybh6255 Yes, it is little more than the US grocery stores if you stick with local food items and frozen food. If you must have fresh non-local items, then those items are much more. Cheese, canned goods, local fish, local vegetables, etc. are affordable... Whenever I travel I eat what the locals eat. If I want to eat like home, then I would stay home...

  • @suzannes5888
    @suzannes5888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You could put a large cutting board over the fridge/freezer openings and just slide it over if you needed to access the compartments - or just pull out what you need before you start cooking. Awesome boat for a family/extra crew!

    • @danchase3012
      @danchase3012 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      we have this boat! we have a cutting board/tray that fits over the stove for extra cutting board space, it helps

  • @billstoys8324
    @billstoys8324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Get a little extra room now you will be thankful later that you did. Especially with Desiree liking her alone time. I know the feeling. ❤️ Love Love Love the boat, and you haven’t been to the Bahamas yet so this boat would be a good one to take there. Price is a bummer but shoot them a low ball price and see what happens.

  • @lydiaajohnson
    @lydiaajohnson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Did you notice that the frig is also front opening? You can use the counter top with ease that way. This Shannon is perfect in every way.

    • @jandtlivinglife3130
      @jandtlivinglife3130 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Except the dark hull will cook you in the tropics and that swing keel is a maintenance headache.

  • @yoyojoe9240
    @yoyojoe9240 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My "Two cents",..while watching the video, half way thru it, I felt you were looking at "Atticus II". I heard your "Professinals" opinions and think they were right "on the money". Right now, the extra Cabins could & would bring you "Extra Income" & extra "hands" . If this Boat does'nt need extra work and can put you "On the water" right away to "Do what you do best" then...... Finances are a personal bussiness, but finding "the way to make it happen" is part of "the adventure". I strongly think you just saw "your next Atticus" **Any price is negotiable, I'm sure the "seller" has the power to also make it happen. Find your way, find your Wisdom. Get...Atticus II, is right in front of you.

    • @koborkutya7338
      @koborkutya7338 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      +1

    • @dasimparmy2289
      @dasimparmy2289 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      +2

    • @MaShcode
      @MaShcode 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      +3

    • @MaShcode
      @MaShcode 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Tim Sawyer O well, I guess I’ll just have to let my let my beautiful piano collect dust and rot. In fact, EVERYONE STOP USING AND MAINTAINING WOOD!!! IT’S ENSLAVEMENT!!!

    • @MaShcode
      @MaShcode 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Tim Sawyer There’s always lots reasons and excuses not to do anything. Which reminds of a bit from the poet Frost. Apologies to the bard, from memory...
      My object in living is to unite my avocation and my vocation as my two eyes make one in sight. Where work is play for mortal stakes is the deed ever really done for heavens and the futures sakes.

  • @adversaryfoe4012
    @adversaryfoe4012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey guys! I've been watching for a solid year now, and I know I'm just a random commenter, but this is the boat. I can literally feel it and see you guys calling this home, and me watching for the next decade. Perfect boat. I will definitely vote for this one.

  • @EricEversonArtAndDesign
    @EricEversonArtAndDesign 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I suspect having the smaller sail forward would be great for keeping the sails balanced under a variety of conditions. The smaller sail has less area, so less force, but by extending the lever arm forward you don't lose as much torque. That should let you reduce the sail area forward when the wind's up without inducing a bunch of weather helm. In theory.

  • @ashleyshutter5880
    @ashleyshutter5880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My parents raised my brother and I on Formosa 51, transpac 49, vagabond 47...all had seperate berths for us! Having our own space was SO wonderful. The older we got the larger boat (51') we had. My parents had the aft cabin in most setups and we had vberth and Pullman berths...you guys are SO on track! Very excited and love seeing these videos!!! ❤ So awesome.🤟 also...the formosa had a small bathtub which my mom says we loved as kids for baths...other boats we had baths in the buckets on deck!! 😂😂 If I can help at all from growing up on many sailboats let me know. Cheers!!

  • @OtOLOVEGuy
    @OtOLOVEGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Wow, I thought this was the one. But what do I know. I am only living vicariously ;-)

  • @rlafount
    @rlafount 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its getting close and exciting. I am really happy for you guys, the right boat is just around the corner!!

  • @dustinallen9009
    @dustinallen9009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Check out a Kelly Peterson 46. Super nice boats and think y’all would love the center cockpit.

    • @tonydebruyne257
      @tonydebruyne257 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hard to find one though, it’s a popular boat.

  • @earlcox6293
    @earlcox6293 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i really like you guys. i sailed for a while, not very well, but with you i can live vicariously. such fun. good luck, and please keep having a show when you find your boat.

  • @magcitrate
    @magcitrate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Wow. It’s like going to Rolls Royce from a rusty Volkswagen 😝

    • @magcitrate
      @magcitrate 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @David Shields I don’t know... I used to own a chit car. Wasted so much time trying to get it to run right. I think I would enjoy that super nice boat. 🤣

    • @MaShcode
      @MaShcode 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@magcitrate Exactly, with the beetles I owned, I always needed downhill parking in the event the starter burned out or battery died. Then again parts were always cheap and available.

    • @jimglass1161
      @jimglass1161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You tubing must be paying off if you can go from Atticus to any one of these boats.

    • @billstoys8324
      @billstoys8324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I doubt that they would be writing names on the walls of this boat. :)

  • @CheersWarren
    @CheersWarren 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is s lovely yacht but if you are going to live on a boat full time your ideal boat is a well made charter boat that has had little charter use. You get finishes that hold up well to the high usage , you also get system easily repaired etc. but you would have to find a boat that is built that way! They are out there though .
    Cheers Warren

  • @vivianeriesterer4279
    @vivianeriesterer4279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    gorgeous boat, would make a perfect family home for you

  • @chrisfrancis6171
    @chrisfrancis6171 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep Atticus!!! I’m so impressed with how you turn your hand to just about anything.
    Your dad must be so proud of you.

  • @dadrjlrcjrcwr
    @dadrjlrcjrcwr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I would really consider that boat, as a parent you will never say I wish this boat was smaller with less space.

    • @MakingWavesPresents
      @MakingWavesPresents 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      only when you pay marina costs. lol in the Algarve my Westerly Longbow 31 ft costs me 272€ per month on the hard.

  • @edgilnelson9579
    @edgilnelson9579 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi guys..luv your vids & enjoying sharing your journey. Nothing more exciting than purchasing a new boat. I would however council you on giving up space because of your past experience. Children are a blessing. Children also totally change your life dynamics & your space requirements. Cheers

  • @jonnyl8418
    @jonnyl8418 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Having watched your channel for some time now and seeing your search for Atticus 2, I think you should consider a Contest 43 from around 1992. They were built in Holland in Europe and are a centre cockpit design, but this creates enormous space inside. They are solid and quite fast for the weight. We bought one and love it. 😀

  • @rodfriant5852
    @rodfriant5852 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hap is so right on with "better to grow into than out of"

  • @Deltadawg
    @Deltadawg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Definitely the boat for you guys but wow the price tag!

  • @nealeburgess6756
    @nealeburgess6756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I absolutely fell in love with the interior of that boat! Just exceptional. Wet head? no big deal. I have one in my caravan. Takes just a couple of minutes to dry it before I get dressed. It seems like I'm not the only person thinking you might be being a bit hasty in dismissing this one!

  • @mikekarbach394
    @mikekarbach394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Enjoy your videos as I am saying to the screen..."Look at a catamaran"
    Seems it would be easier to find the livability and the sailability you are looking for. Maybe something similar to the Wynn's " SV Curiosity"

  • @danknox9986
    @danknox9986 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These boat review videos are fantastic. Thank you.

  • @hennasen
    @hennasen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Not gonna lie, I laughed my butt off when I saw you both sitting at the dinette. Like, you’re already living on a sailboat...when the hell ya gonna wanna work at the same table, especially one that size????🤣🤣🤣

  • @mikebhicks7933
    @mikebhicks7933 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got to say that Project Atticus has become one of my favorite channels. Beau & Brandy is right up there with you. Love the channel.

  • @carlos17098
    @carlos17098 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That is a very nice boat! I really See you Both living on That

  • @marty0715yt
    @marty0715yt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like the description and quality review of this guy at the beginning!!! He is a great asset to this boat introduction. Way to go Buds!!

  • @WeBeGood06
    @WeBeGood06 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This boat was built in Bristol Rhode Island, make sure that the hull to deck joint is thru bolted, not just screwed together. Bristol, built in Bristol Rhode Island used screws, not bolts, causing the deck to hull joint to leak.

  • @tilongatao
    @tilongatao 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    After spending three years with your old intro, I'm pretty fond of the new one! What a cool boat.

  • @indobleh
    @indobleh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    If you have a boy and girl, then requirement for separate rooms happens quicker. A 3 bedroom boat would be an advantage. Of course if you're planning on only having two boys or two girls then not so much of an issue.

    • @Gladtobeleaving
      @Gladtobeleaving 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Planning to have two boys or two girls? Good luck with that. But the third cabin works.

    • @MaShcode
      @MaShcode 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Gladtobeleaving haha, beat me to it.

    • @meefeenewme6767
      @meefeenewme6767 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stop with the advance thinking, they aren't even pregnant! Humans base to much on what if than just doing, kids will be fine boys or girls.

    • @OriginalBernieBro
      @OriginalBernieBro 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And age difference will play a large roll as well.

  • @pandabella2525
    @pandabella2525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely love this boat! The design, the character and the build. I have a gut feeling that this is the boat for you! God Bless💜

  • @billkaroly
    @billkaroly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Shoot a note to Captain Q. He's shown some really nice boats up in Maine on his TH-cam channel.

  • @Psychobilly
    @Psychobilly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Look guys, I watched you both walk through her. Yes she’s a bit more expensive, but you guys really enjoyed this boat. You could see it on your faces. I’d definitely make an offer on this boat. I really feel like your search for Atticus II is over.

  • @tyee4u
    @tyee4u 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    “He called is a Scutter, not a Slutter” 😂😂😂😂
    Sorry my inner 13 yr old can’t stop laughing 😂

    • @mojoneko8303
      @mojoneko8303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It will be a Slutter rig to me from now on. 😁

    • @pauljamison3340
      @pauljamison3340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’ve always known it as a Slutter rig!!

  • @philiporourke7896
    @philiporourke7896 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gorgeous boat, almost a Hinckley. Stunning interior.

  • @billkaroly
    @billkaroly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I would take a close look at how Catalpa is raising two kids on a monohull.

  • @alecarriazo5629
    @alecarriazo5629 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    YES! We love brokers that support the Naval Academy!!!! GO NAVY! Class of 2021 here getting ready to hit the fleet here soon. Love this series btw!

  • @myogart
    @myogart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hey, if ya’ll are still in NC or even FL we’d love to take you to dinner. I personally have learned so much and have been inspired by your journey.
    Blessings 😊❤️🙏

  • @dougzirkle5951
    @dougzirkle5951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a beauty! Probably the best looking boat so far.

  • @TheMorganMonroeShow
    @TheMorganMonroeShow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It’s perfect.

  • @kimwood5773
    @kimwood5773 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just want to let you know that kids come with a lot of things you may not be considering. If you have a boy and a girl they may want their own space. They need space and storage! Mine moved from lots of toys to gaming, slime, legos, puzzles, school supplies. There is so much. You are going to want them to have things to do. Just trust me. Yes they are little and don’t need a ton but you will be surprised how much YOU will want them to have and experience. We love watching your process. Can’t wait to see what you choose. I’m sure you will make it work but never thing you have too much space when it comes to kids. 💕

  • @chrisruthford4492
    @chrisruthford4492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If I was in the market for a liveaboard sailboat, that would be top five on my list.

  • @petec9686
    @petec9686 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the boat they should have went with, IMO.
    Shannon build quality is pretty much in a class by itself. Absolutely stunning.

  • @colini8328
    @colini8328 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi. I am new to your channel but have some experience sailing with children. I did it professionally for nearly ten years.
    This is a lovely boat however if you expect to be sailing a lot, big boats mean big power and big loads on your sheets. Small children need small loads, consider more smaller sails to keep the loads any single line as low as you can. Sheet loads on a 40ft+ sloop will be too much for children Consider a cutter or better again a staysail ketch or schooner.
    Also consider moving around the deck at sea at night. Children are keen and capable from about 7yrs and will want to help and join in, high coach roof and lots of grab bars gives confidence and plenty to hang on to. If you want to bring on their confidence and ability that's important.
    Also one to consider is small children need a lot of hot water and honestly, you can't have too much but too little and life gets very hard very quickly. If two bathrooms is available that too would be good, poorly children can't hold it for long.
    Good luck with your search, I really hope you make it happen.

  • @petermartinez2220
    @petermartinez2220 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We owned 43 #49 (2001) for many years...to augment the counter space, we added a cutting board custom fit over the stove of matching Corian. This hull was in fact a carbon copy of our custom design (the first 3-cabin Shannon 43 every built)

  • @billwilliams9527
    @billwilliams9527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm missing the solar panels, will there be any? I do not see the last boat in your future, very nice shiny, but nice doesn't always work over time. You guys are looking for minimal maintenance, not more.

  • @fxpthl
    @fxpthl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG! This was such a beautiful boat with tons of room for a family! Yes, the bright work would keep you very busy maintaining it and less time enjoying the ride! Thanks for sharing all of these wonderful options with us. Having put out there your final three, I'm sure someone will be contacting you soon.

  • @billmeldrum2509
    @billmeldrum2509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Asking price has, many times, little to do selling price. Best advice: go as big as you can afford. Kids are a complete game changer. Check out RAN Sailing. They just did what you are looking to do.

    • @genesmith4019
      @genesmith4019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As lovable as the Atticus kids are they're no Ran Sailing LoL. Hell- why not check out Sailing Cloudy Bay LoL.

    • @simonshurety3870
      @simonshurety3870 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@genesmith4019 I'm not familiar with the Ran channel. Care to elaborate a touch?

    • @simonshurety3870
      @simonshurety3870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Konstantin Ridaya Wow! Thanks for the in depth answer. Before asking the question I briefly viewed one of the RAN videos and got exactly that impression, they are hardcore! As you put it so well, we can still love the Atticus couple for different reasons and the Atticus gang are definitely well ahead of me in terms of life goals.

    • @genesmith4019
      @genesmith4019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@simonshurety3870 If you go way back into RAN you will see so many great adventures aboard and ashore. They are great sailors (and parents).
      And if you get into Cloudy Bay a HR 54 you will see the most ship-shape boat on youtube. Lots of great adventures there as well.

  • @DC-si8xw
    @DC-si8xw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    long time viewer, thanks for showing a boat was built in my state of rhode island, cool.

  • @guermeisterdoodlebug7980
    @guermeisterdoodlebug7980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I don’t know if it’s “your” boat, but it’s not too big for what you are facing. 5/5 means “perfect,” no reservations, so you can’t give it 5/5 Livability while saying you don’t like the wet head. Maybe 4.8 or 4.9.

    • @chrisscott1958
      @chrisscott1958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i don't understand the issue with a wet head. With all the peeing that happens in there its always nice to keep it rinsed out regularly. To me that is a work saver.

  • @Morrisfactor
    @Morrisfactor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    For what it is worth - my first boat was a 37' cutter (two years in the South Pacific 1977-79). My next boat was a Seawing 43 (very similar to the Shannon 43) which was a lovely, well built boat and had TWICE the volume of the 37 footer. Our family of five had many enjoyable moments aboard the Seawing. If you plan on having two kids, I really hope you consider boats in the 43 - 47 foot range. Kids take up a surprising amount of space (books, toys, games, clothing, snorkeling gear, rain gear, etc.) and the boat will not only need bunk/table space for them, but extra tankage for water and space for more food to handle the little people's needs. And you will need a larger dinghy to transport the whole family to the beach. That much volume is hard to find on the three smaller boats you are still considering. The Shannon would be a great choice, (though I think this one in the video is overpriced) - maybe they will take a much lower offer - it never hurts to try. Best wishes!

  • @rm-61366
    @rm-61366 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    tellin ya, check out that little harbor 44. Will sail circles around any of the other boats you've looked at, and the price is 110k less than the Shannon.

  • @davidc6510
    @davidc6510 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Totally stunning boat for sure. Best one I have seen so far. Good luck on your search.

  • @24hourtravellers
    @24hourtravellers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Get thisssss one!!! ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @TheJeremyadams
    @TheJeremyadams 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even after watching the other, and newer episodes, I think think make and model might be the best choice. Having bunk beds, and another berth is amazing.

  • @CR-eo2ts
    @CR-eo2ts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Beautiful boats, to be sure, albeit way overpriced. Centerboards, and all that wood topsides, are both huge red flags, in my book.
    You really should track down a Tayana 42 CC, or other similar boats by designers like Perry, Brewer, Huntingford, Gillmer, etc. (w/o teak decks 😉)
    Regarding space: you will fill whatever you have. 👍
    Keep looking, and stay safe!

    • @jlsinchina
      @jlsinchina 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Center cockpit is definitely the way to go.

  • @larryboles629
    @larryboles629 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a wood boat once. When the varnish is fresh, oh my they are beautiful. The time it takes to keep it up would be better served with the family. The Shannon is lovely no doubt there. With the wood and the center board I would give it a pass. I could make some suggestions but you all have it going on. I will just wait for your next boat tour. Be happy be safe.

  • @alenh4132
    @alenh4132 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There are other products different than varnish that last a lot longer without the upkeep

    • @lonniepee9804
      @lonniepee9804 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can urethane handle all the sun exposure? If not, with all your patrons, you might be able to hire out the varnishing. My experience with stinkpot crew cruising taught me that varnishing is a special talent. My drinkin' buddy in Miami in 1973 was a well-respected varnisher.

    • @alenh4132
      @alenh4132 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lonniepee9804 i have not had very good luck with urethane, instead i stubbled on a product called CETOL that lasts for years without touchups

  • @Gotmath8
    @Gotmath8 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's fun to watch you two sort this out. I'm at the other end: kids raised with no real interest in sailing around the world. I'd throw in with the Caribbean off-shore crowd looking for the next great little island or bar. Who am I kidding - it'll never happen. You guys on the other hand will absolutely find the right boat for your family. Smooth sailing!

  • @voodoochild1954
    @voodoochild1954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The only thing wrong with that boat was the price.

    • @hagaiabeliovich4276
      @hagaiabeliovich4276 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Strange. There are at least two other shannon 43s in that same neighborhood and they only looked at the 274K one. The others are sub 200K

  • @gr8ketch
    @gr8ketch ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely not too big! I'd be looking at somewhere between the 43'-50' because having an actual stateroom is sooo much better than just a v-berth as your master cabin. Having the extra room is so noticeable and it's worth it. We had a lot of fun in a 36' sloop with a v-berth quite a few years ago but there was just the two of us. Opposite the v-berth is almost always the two separate single sleepers - which end up as storage most the time! Not ideal for another couple. On the other hand it's a great excuse to just have a private getaway for two! We all end up meeting so many fellow sailors that are fun and always welcoming. Nothing is like the boating communities and the people that occupy the marinas as liveaboards too. They are always a good time. 🥂⚓

  • @reginasimms46
    @reginasimms46 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the three cabins for children that are opposite sex. If same no biggie. When they r older not sure if opposite sex is a good idea sleeping together. I’ve heard some horror stories. Bunk beds are amazing. Just thinking of my kids and grandkids and what we have gone thru. If u won’t be staying in this boat when they are older than 8-10 Yrs old then no biggie. Just my experience. Love this boat searching segment. Good luck praying for u guys.

  • @music-man
    @music-man 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I went up to the Shannon Boat yard in 1979 and met the founders Walter Schultz and David Walters who went onto start Cambria yachts. I was going to buy one but work got in the way. I can tell you from personal experience these yachts can take you anywhere around the world in safety. Walter knew what he was doing when he built these yachts. These are not condos on the water but you will be safe. She is a beauty. You have two great other choices. The Najad is a great yacht SV Ran have one and its a lovely yacht its up there with great swedish yacht builder Hallberg rassy which is a incredible yacht which i am looking at buying. There was a pacific seacraft for sale in Newport beach last fall and i think it was a 37. If i hear of anything ill let you know. Good luck. cheers

  • @timohan100
    @timohan100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It is not too big. I have a Alden 44 and single hand a lot. When I have a few friends on board I almost wish it was bigger. You have to remember all boats shrink 25% when you are living aboard. I don't see how you could go wrong with a Shannon. I would have bought one over my Alden if the price was right.

  • @kylecampbell8808
    @kylecampbell8808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the one ! Hands down ! You guys need this

  • @nickmiracle2317
    @nickmiracle2317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Children will accept the environment they are raised in as normal, good, bad, big or small. Just think of a family of four looking at a bigger boat with all the excitement children bring to the equation in ten years, how fun will that be.

    • @symphonyfarm2009
      @symphonyfarm2009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We are moving up from a 22ft boat to a 27 and it feels like a mansion!!! Last summer we were overnighting on the 22, and i pulled out the make due bucket head, in the AM to do my business squatted between my son and my daughter on the setees..... I thought....its time for a bigger boat!!!

  • @kevinhirdes8097
    @kevinhirdes8097 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with your assessment. I think 2 bathrooms and a separate shower should be top on your list for a long term family boat. My opinion as a father of 3 girls and 1 boy. Good luck!! PS: I am enjoying following you on your search.

  • @petrichorfilms
    @petrichorfilms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Ok, I’ll address the elephant in the room.
    You are only alllowed to have a really pretty boat if you are still prepared to write patreons names all over it in sharpie 👍

    • @ProjectAtticus
      @ProjectAtticus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      😂😂😂

    • @lonniepee9804
      @lonniepee9804 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      'At 'ere's funny. I don't care who you are. ;-) They might have to downgrade to a Bic pen. ;-)

    • @SteelDoesMyWill
      @SteelDoesMyWill 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lonniepee9804 or upgrade to fancy Silver and Gold Sharpie Paint Pens! If you wanna go crazy, have a very small CNC engraving machine onboard to make brass name plates!

    • @willyum1208
      @willyum1208 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ProjectAtticus you guys should look at an Island Packet 360, it checks off a lot of your boxes, has removable bunk beds in the aft and forward cabin, shoal draft, separate shower and has the comfiest nav station imaginable with its own dedicated leather recliner. Yes you heard that right.

  • @bazermaggie
    @bazermaggie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only half way through the episode but my favourite boat so far that you’ve shown us 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @kenm6231
    @kenm6231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great boat. Offer a lot less. All they can do is say no. It depends on how bad they want to sell.

  • @Buckskin40
    @Buckskin40 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As someone who has learnt about being a minimalist through necessity in my profession, hearing your views, Desiree, on the Shannon 43 was music to my ears. Girls like you today, are very hard to find! Having said that, I will admit that once a family comes along, I don't think you would regret the extra space. Kids are full on. They change your life. There are times when you really need a bit of 'me' time, when you can just be yourself and shut them out, leave them to Jordan for a while, and of course there are times when you and Jordan will want your own space too. Having that extra cabin could make the world of difference for you and the kids. Living on a yacht is not living in grandiose luxury. You have to learn to give and take and to share much more than when you live in a large community. So you still can implant the experiences of minimalist living. Those are my thoughts, but I hope you will ultimately find the boat that will be Atticus 2!

  • @chazarkansas1366
    @chazarkansas1366 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I cant believe a boat that size and cost has a head that small.

    • @jimglass1161
      @jimglass1161 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, nice boat though.

    • @chazarkansas1366
      @chazarkansas1366 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimglass1161 yeah no denying that.

    • @danchase3012
      @danchase3012 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes, we have this boat and it's tight! but we' re used to it. We have a wrap-around curtain and with the head cover it all works out

    • @chazarkansas1366
      @chazarkansas1366 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danchase3012 Im sure its not the end of the world. Its just surprising to see on such a large, expensive boat.

  • @coug96fan
    @coug96fan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My opinion... buy, buy, buy this boat. Kids are a variable that may require more space than you realize. At a young age, one may be ready for a nap and the other ready to play. The extra space gives you so many more options for the unexpected. The wood on the deck needs care, but not as much as you might think. Best of luck! Can't wait to see what you choose.

  • @NZL50505
    @NZL50505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Go bigger. 42ft and 3 cabins minimum. Forget the otherwise lovely Najad 370 - far too small. If you are young, fit & capable (as you both are) then buy the biggest boat you can afford to purchase & maintain. Your family and friends will love you for it for years! Your ‘minimalist’ personal aspirations will wear thin very quickly on a young family when they want their own play space, when the fridge/freezer space is too small for ice cream and you are running out of water tank capacity to shower off bubs after yet another ‘poo incident’ last night. For a growing family (with friends) you will never regret buying big, you will only regret buying too small. It’s crystal clear that anything under 42ft and 3 cabins is too small for your growing needs.

  • @jasonc9362
    @jasonc9362 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got home from work. Wasn’t expecting you guys to release a new episode until tomorrow. This was a great surprise. About to watch now!! 😁

  • @portfoliofotoz
    @portfoliofotoz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think your analysis was spot on. Too "fancy" for you. All that gloss varnish below?? Nope. Tiring to live with. Waste of money. Gorgeous boat though.

    • @meefeenewme6767
      @meefeenewme6767 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, with boats I've had and all the vanish work inside can be to much to keep up with. Looks great but a bitch to deal with, constant up keep with moisture in a boat. Someone has spent a lot of time though getting it looking nice for the sale.

  • @kriskris9330
    @kriskris9330 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my favorite boat so far you’ve looked at. It’s beautiful & very spacious.

  • @stephenbuckle6180
    @stephenbuckle6180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    SLUTTER and SCUTTER are both yachting rig-format terminology. (Sloop-Cutter)

    • @MaShcode
      @MaShcode 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We can dress her up but can’t take her out. Lol.

  • @liberty4175
    @liberty4175 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always good to see you guys. Yeah that boat was too fancy, you guys are more down to earth. I don’t mean this in a negative way. Blessings to you both.

  • @stephenbuckle6180
    @stephenbuckle6180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    CONFIDENTIALITY: perhaps offer the maximum you can afford, but under strict terms of a confidentiality agreement - if it's a steal🙃. Surely you can find no more suitable a vessel? And as Mr. Newsom says, grow into it.

  • @tomjackson1224
    @tomjackson1224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the way you are doing this search !