Mazda CX-80 premiere REVIEW - can this CX90 brother challenge a BMW X5?
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- This is our in-depth review of the Mazda CX-80. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and technology.
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00:00 Mazda CX80 reveal
00:53 Artisan Red high trim
01:47 Length CX60 vs CX80 vs CX90
03:34 Price
04:29 Engines
05:55 Melting Copper
06:38 Light signatures
07:47 Interior check
08:42 Seats and comfort
10:09 User interface
11:10 Instruments, HUD, infotainment
11:40 CX80 or X5?
11:53 Rear seats 2nd row
14:40 3rd seating row
16:43 Trunk / boot
Data and spec
Mazda CX-80 (CX-90 brother)
Germany entry price 55.000 Euro (PHEV), 59.000 (Diesel)
High trim review vehicle as shown: 67.000 Euro
X5 PHEV comparison price: 95.000 Euro
New colors
Artisan Red
Melting Copper
Optional Matrix LED
length
CX-60 4,74 m / 187“
CX-80 5,00 m / 197“ (25 cm or 10“ longer than CX-60 - and that’s all basically wheelbase - but 10 cm or 4“ shorter than CX-90/CX-70)
CX-90 and CX-70 5,10 m / 201“ (but same wheelbase, CX-90 is a little wider)
Suspension double wishbone front, multi-link rear
6-seater captain’s seat or 7-seater
20“
2,5 l R4 PHEV 327 hp system output, AWD, 8-spd-automatic
18 kWh gross battery (14,5 kWh net)
40 km / 25 miles realistic range
7,2 kW AC
6,8 sec 0-100 km/h
VMax 195 km/h 120 mph
3,3 l R6 Diesel turbo MHEV 254 hp, AWD, 8-spd-automatic
8,4 sec 0-100 km/h
VMax 219 km/h 136 mph
CX-90 in US also 3,3 l turbo petrol 280 hp or 340 hp
Both RWD bias
12,3“ instruments, 12,3“ infotainment, HUD (standard)
Exclusive Line, Homura & Takumi both animal skin
Fabric seats standard in Exclusive Line, all others optional animal skin
US CX-90: Base black full leatherette
690 l - 1.970 l
2,5 t towing
#MazdaCX80 #Mazda
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00:00 Mazda CX80 reveal
00:53 Artisan Red high trim
01:47 Length CX60 vs CX80 vs CX90
03:34 Price
04:29 Engines
05:55 Melting Copper
06:38 Light signatures
07:47 Interior check
08:42 Seats and comfort
10:09 User interface
11:10 Instruments, HUD, infotainment
11:40 CX80 or X5?
11:53 Rear seats 2nd row
14:40 3rd seating row
16:43 Trunk / boot
6:47 if I'm not mistaken, Mazda was the first car maker to do pulsating LED indicators back when they launched the CX30, when everyone else was copying Audi's cascading indicators. Mazda said they made their led indicators look like old school filament bulb indicators, hence the pulse.
Now it seems BMW is copying Mazda! That's an indication (pun intended) that Mazda is doing things well in their attempt to enter the luxury car market.
Another page that BMW could take out of Mazda's book....NO GLOSS BLACK! It's a miracle! A car at half the cost, with no cheap, glossy plastic...what a time to be alive
Agree
Indicators NOT luxury. If Mazda were learning from BMW they would have introduced I6 rwd last century, BMW have moved on to EV.
@@tier1detailingIf u call that living & going by ur nom de troll u do.
That red is GORGEOUS 😍
Yes. Catch is Mazda body colour chips very easily.
@@rutube007 I own an older Mazda and I would definitely recommend getting PPF on the hood and front bumper
You have reached a level of extreme efficiency (no pun intended, Germany!) delivering a massive amount of facts that are basically all interest points, doing a masterful job of cutting out anyhthing not really worth mentioning and focusing on all important stuff swiftly and effortlessly! One of the best, it not the best car reviews available today on youtube.
Highly appreciated!! Please recommend 😎
The proportions look way better than the CX-60. Even if I was in the market for a 5 seater I'd go for this.
Cx90 has 7 seats
@@TurboChargedChristmas Yes, it does. But this is a CX-60 in every way but length. The CX-90 is wider.
@@LarryNgetich A very good afternoon/evening. Whats the difference between CX60, CX70, CX80 ? I want to know in exterior looks. Tbh I’m very confused with Mazda’s lineup 🫡
Agree
The heartbeat effect actually came from cx-30😊
Since cx-9, personally, Mazda has produced very good car. In my opinion, mazda has perfected how a luxury suv vehicle should look like. The shape is symmetrical or proportional and it has great road presence.
Thanks Thomas for another intelligent and interesting review also great choice of Leah as your assistant providing the glamour 😊
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Hopefully Mazda makes an estate version of their new SUV models because the design is really appealing!
How would they make an Estate of an SUV?
@@LafemmebearMusic By taking the overall design language and lowering it down in height to a normal car size. The current Mazda 6 is missing the sleek lines that these CX SUVs have. The current Mazda 6 front wheel arch curve on the side panel makes it look like the whole body is bent from the A-pillar.
@@LafemmebearMusicMost SUVs are built on the same platforms as the standard cars. Redesigning this as a standard saloon or estate would be relatively simple.
@@anomuumit there are some renders of how Mazda 6 will look in that design language and it looks great
So BUY EXISTING VEHICLE>vs. trolling IMAGINARY 1.
This should have been the CX-70 in the US…it’s size made more sense on their numerical designation.
exactly
How do you guys are always first at these Auto unveil every single time. Surprising and commendable have seen no other channel do it
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Excellent video as always ❤Looking forward to the driving session 😀
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I'm a big fan of the user interface for the media/nav. One of the rare car designs that offer a well designed volume knob for the front seat passenger. Most designs have a volume knob close to the driver while the driver has redundant volume controls on the steering wheel.
Thanks Thomas for pointing out the small rear blinker trend...
It's really annoying because most modern cars have such bright brake and tail lights, therefore you can't see the blinkers very well...
Data and spec
Mazda CX-80 (CX-90 brother)
Germany entry price 55.000 Euro (PHEV), 59.000 (Diesel)
High trim review vehicle as shown: 67.000 Euro
X5 PHEV comparison price: 95.000 Euro
New colors
Artisan Red
Melting Copper
Optional Matrix LED
length
CX-60 4,74 m / 187“
CX-80 5,00 m / 197“ (25 cm or 10“ longer than CX-60 - and that’s all basically wheelbase - but 10 cm or 4“ shorter than CX-90/CX-70)
CX-90 and CX-70 5,10 m / 201“ (but same wheelbase, CX-90 is a little wider)
Suspension double wishbone front, multi-link rear
6-seater captain’s seat or 7-seater
20“
2,5 l R4 PHEV 327 hp system output, AWD, 8-spd-automatic
18 kWh gross battery (14,5 kWh net)
40 km / 25 miles realistic range
7,2 kW AC
6,8 sec 0-100 km/h
VMax 195 km/h 120 mph
3,3 l R6 Diesel turbo MHEV 254 hp, AWD, 8-spd-automatic
8,4 sec 0-100 km/h
VMax 219 km/h 136 mph
CX-90 in US also 3,3 l turbo petrol 280 hp or 340 hp
Both RWD bias
12,3“ instruments, 12,3“ infotainment, HUD (standard)
Exclusive Line, Homura & Takumi both animal skin
Fabric seats standard in Exclusive Line, all others optional animal skin
US CX-90: Base black full leatherette
690 l - 1.970 l
2,5 t towing
#MazdaCX80 #Mazda
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This is good synopsis / comparison of Mazda's line (which is very confusing to me ). If this CX-80 Exactly as shown (being a little smaller than the USA CX-90/70) with the USA's Straight 6 Turbo S , I'd order it Tomorrow. For comparison - aside from solely against the X5 - Acura's MDX Advance is a definite competitor. Without producing a complete Matrix of the features of each, suffice it to say, The 2024 MDX Advance (non Type S) is about $10K MORE than a CX -90 with the Turbo 6 (not the Turbo S ). The 2024 Type S MDX is $13K MORE than the CX-90 or CX-70 (whih is puzzling on Mazda's part) Premium Plus Turbo S model! The two SUV are comparable in size, HP/Torque, interior room, and other features. The MDX adds Massaging seats, Air suspension, auto dampening suspension, interior Light Show, a spectacular ELS Sound system vs the Mazda CX-90 Premium Plus Turbo S. Acura just announced their 2025 MDX Type S with some refreshing enhancements - most notable - was the elimination opf the Touch Pad and going with a Touch Screen InfoT. system screen. But the price is now circa $78K vs $62 K for the TOL CX-90 /70 Premium Plus Turbo S. BTAIM, I would NOT opt for a PHEV. But I would opt for a Gas/Electric Hybrid like the newer CRVs.
Love Mazda ❤...
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The king of Mewing is back. Great review!
great overview Thomas, love the Mazda interiors, had Stone leather in my 2018 CX-5 and deliberate non-touchscreen infotainment. Key fobs are now available in vehicle colour too. Indicators should be on the outer edge of the light clusters, had to see some of these small ones at night with bright LEDs. Not as bad as KIA Sportage, whose indicators are under boot line bumper, where you cant see them in traffic.
Great looker and seems very good value for money, also really appreciate the luggage in the back for reference!
That's one beautiful car. Great review!
Looks cool. Are there resr sir vents for the third row seats ? I know it's not in the cx9 ?
Cheers,a great review of a nice looking car
Thanks for this preview which I looked at with great interest having bought a CX60 PHEV last year.
This car is simply too big for what I want and I already find the CX60 much heavier than I am used to. The UI/UX and buttons are completely familiar and it is a real plus for Mazda that you can now get into all their EV or PHEV ranges and know immediately how they work without retraining. I find the build and features which come as standard rather than extensive expensive options more than premium enough. So for German and other premium brands you have to decide whether the more elaborate suspension and maybe all wheel steering plus the badge are really worth double the price. From the figures mentioned the PHEV setup in this larger CX80 may be a bit under powered compared with the CX60.
That interior is close to perfection! Light and airy. Real buttons. Perfectly sized display. I hope the “premium” brands are watching !
The seats in the front are atrociously bad! Same as in the CX5 and CX60.
Wow this us really nice well done mazad
I love Mazda's newest design language and interiors. If they reintroduced the Mazda6 as a premium (below Luxury) estate/wagon, I'd scoop it up in a heartbeat
I share the same view with Thomas that the clean rear bumper looks so much better.
Has more elegance than those cut with exhaust holes and especially with monstrous ones!
LETS GO LADS! Lets get him to the 1 Million Club !! 💪💪💪
thanks so much , please recommend ! :)
Great as allways thomas! In my opionion the side line looks a little strange with the short overhangs.
In Australia we get the CX 60 and the larger longer wider CX 90 which makes sense. The suspension and transmission were poor in early models being new in house designs. Fixes are on the way. Deep crystal blue metallic is beautiful in the Azami SP spec with light or tan interior.
We’re also getting the CX-70 and CX-80 in Aus as well, bit of a gamble for Mazda to offer all 4 large platform models but they might be using us as a test market as they know Mazda is hugely popular here.
I have a new top spec G35 CX5. Everything works as it should. I love driving it 😎 Mazdas don’t have the status of the likes of a nice X3 or X5 though.
CX-60/80 difference definitely makes more sense than the North American 70/90 duo, however I'm disappointed to see the same bulb-like rear styling from the NA duo has been brought over for this CX-80. I was fearing that, since it needed to be lengthened for the third seating row but especially from diagonal angles the rear end looks really bloated compared to the CX-60.
Thomas, love your channel but if I may suggest that you please also mention the NM of the engines. Horsepower alone doesn’t say enough. Perhaps the global audience makes this tricky but you manage around that with CM and inches as well. Thank you
It’s fun to see you using the collapsable metal ruler 😂 16:50
Mazda has suspension and transmission issues for all of cx-90 and cx-60. Unfortunately there are both not comfortable nor smooth. I’m assuming the same for this model most likely. Mazda used to make a nice car but they failed this time while rushing into production of unfinished product. An owner here speaking and waiting for fix
Keep us updated!
I think this model should be called cx70, and mazda should sell cx90 for non-American market because the rear seat of cx70 is too small. If they want to round up the line up then the cx80 should be the 5 seater version of the cx90, the current naming is too confusing for ordinary people.
that's will make more sense BUT only if you aware of both markets ) if you are in Europe you have a choice between CX60 and CX80 and that's it. And in States it's only 90 and 70
@@vadym8713 But in Australia, you can choose from CX 3 all the way to CX90, include CX3,CX30,CX5,CX60,CX 70,CX8,CX80, CX9, CX90...it is such a chaos XD
@@davidliang7855 That's true, Australia probably would be one of very few markets, if not only, to offer all the four double-digit new Mazda SUVs. Aussie is really a special market.
@@davidliang7855 omg, your market is unique ))
Does anyone know if and when the new mazda 6 will be released?
Has Mazda addressed the suspension issues for the CX-60? Does the CX-80 use the same suspension? Mazda need to update the infotainment system.
NO, Mazda DONT need to upgrade an infotainment - everybody else should look at Mazda and do the same - this is much better that current German rivals/ I just hate touchscreens
They fixed CX-60 with new dampers, my cousin has one and dampers were replaced under warranty no more jogging/jumping…
I test drove a CX60 with the 3 litre inline 6 diesel. It was stunning. There's small details I would change where the Germans focus but it is ALOT cheaper than the German alternatives.
I love Mazda and we own a CX-9. But I never considered a CX-70 or 90 here in the States before buying my 2024 X5. It’s a nice car, but it ain’t no X5 (nor is it half the CX-5’s price when equipped with the higher output engine).
The X5 can’t match the Mazda CX 60, 70, 80 or 90 in design and in quality. And just one detail, it is not the price that determines whether a car is premium. But the quality and the materials. The fact that people are stupid enough to overcharge a German car is people's own problem.
@@sternskov2629 People are blindsided by badge image unfortunately. They don't see the bigger picture.
@@sternskov2629 yeah, that’s just arbitrary, vague nonsense. The notion that “premium”, however you define such vague term,is not correlated with cost and price is just silly. Side note. I didn’t equate price with “premium”. I simply pointed out that suggesting this Mazda is half the price of the X5 is not accurate.
Great review as usual.
It's always great to watch your reviews and get your perspective from Germany, here in the USA. Overall, I find the design of the CX-70/90 and CX-60/80 sides a little flat and bland. I'd rather see some character, sculpturing or sweep to them, like the CX-5. Also I'd like less roundness to the rear roof line and have it a little more vertical.
Thanks again for the reviews.
Thanks please share!
Looks awesome 🎉🎉🎉
Mazda should definitely start informing testers that the screen IS touchscreen!! However, this must be unlocked in the menu. By default, this option is disabled. I have already seen this error in one of the videos on YT.
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This is confusing from Mazda. In Australia we have the CX3, CX5. CX60, CX90 which can exceed $100,000 and now the CX80. Too many models with small differences in size and all looking the same. The current CX60 and CX90 have some basic problems with hard suspension and a rough auto transmission operation which haven't really been addressed . No really comparable with BMW.
9:03 I think the question is good to encourage freedom of individual consumption, I would also add if they are going to offer manual transmission and a gasoline version without hybridization for other regions where we do not have emission restrictions.
no, they don't have a manual and why should they? Manual in huge SUV is strange
@@vadym8713 And why should it have vegan seating?
I guess the idea of the point is that everyone can choose the vehicle as they want, right? That's why I say, that I find it an interesting comment, but also ask if there will be a manual option and one without any kind of hybridization for outside Europe.
Hi Thomas! Great review as always. Have you considered having a portable hardness test? So you can test dashboard, centre console. Maybe add a slightly extra bit of info.
A hardness test?
@@autogefuehl Yes :D By using a Durometer you can show how hard is the plastic, how nice does the arm rests feel et cetera.
What's up with this 6 seater trend? I want a proper 7 seater, however I always fold the middle seat for easy entry to third row.
That color on the sun should be awesome.
i wish they got a bigger version like the tahoe tho… that would be a chef’s kiss 👌🏼👌🏼
It’s gorgeous
I wanted the CX-60 Takumi so bad but the price is just crazy! I went for my 2nd option the VW Tiguan Allspace R-Line. The prices are just out of control. The VW was the better price performance Rato. I can imagine wanting a CX-80 in the future because I already want one now. 😂
I just chipped mine with JB4. Now I have a Japanese built, 400hp inline 6 SUV on a rear drive bias architecture that does 30 mpg in the highway. If youre thinking of getting one.. just do it.
In a 5 seater configuration would be perfect.
Currently driving an XC90 for towing our caravan, however the changes to the Volvo powertrains means this may be our first and last Volvo as a diesel no longer available, the CX80 looks like it ticks many boxes and nice big diesel..what's not to like.
Current xc90 has 2 liters engines which are too small.
Ours is the 2ltr and performs very well for our needs and economy very good even when towing just dissapointing the diesel variant not available anymore. Had santa fe's before until they went over to 1.6hybrid petrols, diesel still available but only with lower spec and dct transmission..
Hear me out - its expensive.
As a current Mazda owner I HATE that they are focusing on "premium" series (cx50,60,80) and distancing from cars like CX5, which is such an awesome car, loved by everyone and I would've much more prefer that same quality level 7 seater (CX8) and have 10-15k lower price than this.
People are not choosing between this and X5 anyway, but between Kodiaq, 5008 etc.. and this is now significantly more expensive.
I believe a new CX5 is in the pipeline.
stop talking trash, CX-5 still exists and will get a new gen, additioally there is the CX-50, just as affordable, them offering additional models doesn't make their other models more expensive, you made that up, you make absolutely no sense
edit: also anyone can go to the websites of Skoda, Peugeot, etc. and build one with a COMPARABLE engine and equipment, you are clueless about their prices, they are very expensive too
@@Mgoblagulkablong you need to perfect your reading skill, its a very important one. DId i say cx5 doesn't exist anymore or that they are "distancing" from it by building more premium ones. Did I say those expensive Mazdas are not better? The point is that those are improvements rarely anyone asked for. Is 320bhp instead of 200bhp a deal braker for 7seater buyer in that class? Did anyone ever complained about CX5 material quality? Or anything? No.. but they need to add SOMETHING to jack the price and that is not the way I expected Mazda to go.
interesting, as an owner of CX9 I get your point and I have to agree.
EXACTLY....prices for new Mazdas are INSANE. I have been driving Mazdas for about 20 years now, but in last 3-5 years they have lost their mind with pricing they are asking.
The real problem with the CX-60 was not the size, but the poor insolation, indecisive transmission, bad handling and rough ride. If they have fixed all this I will buy it, otherwise no. I am currently in the market for a new family car as my family got a +1 boost recently :)
This looks like a great car.
6:50 I noticed the newer BMWs seem to have copied Mazdas pulsing indicators. Mazda has been using them for a number of years. I think the pulsing indicators look quite premium.
i just need them to redesign rear and its top!
It has a slightly different design compared to the CX-90, and I think it is better. Especially on the top half of the rear portion, it doesn’t buldge out too much! Nice!
is it? haven't noticed any differences )) But I haven't seen real CX90 here in Europe
Is that going to be available in the United States?
Let's get this channel to 1M subs!
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For the price, I'm taking this over the X5
The light color cloth on the door and dash will be dirty in a week...
Wonder if Mazda will replace the CX-5 in Europe as it cannot be accessed every market. I love the CX50...
Mazda and Skoda interiors are amongst the best at the moment.
I like that it has buttons inside for the controls and not a cheap tablet pretending to be a premium feature. I will avoid as much as possible cars with that tablet. It gets annoying driving at night.
So much better UI than the BMW, but i don't like chubby tanks at all.
A new 6 would be interesting with the new v6 diesel engines.
This looks nicer than the CX-90/CX-70 in the United States.
I wish the CX-50 was available here in the UK. I think they look stunning. Would have one in a heartbeat if I could.
Australia getting
CX 60
CX 70
CX 80
CX 90
I have to say that the Mazda vision of interior design and haptic button control interface is what I really love! Sadly all the German manufacturers don`t think so.
It`s hard to get a new company car without glossy plastics and the capacitive BS!
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In terms of cabin and features Mazda might be good choice, However in terms of drive train and driving dynamic the difference is day and night between these two.
Thats true actually
Not a bad car, but it will clearly not steal any BMW customers
If they haven't fixed the suspension and transmission shaking issues, it's not worth it (even if it's half the price of an X5).
I just tested bmw5 top spec and it’s such un uncomfortable car. Didn’t feel solid either. I tested GLE last month and it was very stiff, so impossible for longer rides. I don’t know why German reviewers always compare other brands to German cars and talk about them as if they were better. It’ll be better to compare Mazda to Chinese equivalents or perhaps DS7.
I like the design of CX90 which resembles Volvo Xc90. That said I would like a petrol engine together with 5 seats version.
Particularly nice colour.
Can we have the power outputs in kilowatts. English speaking countries such as Australia haven't used horse power since the mid 1970's.
It's a wagon wanting to be an SUV! This is a good thing!
Beautiful vehicle
Danke.
Plug in?
this should’ve been the cx70 without the 3rd row
I prefer the way the Mazda's lights pulsate versus the BMWs.
You missed the booth width :( I always watch your videos because of real both size test. Its very important because amount of liters is not very useful information these days as manufacturers measure this very differently.
Not enough space in the second row but other than that, seems like a nice car.
3rd row.. 😮💨😮💨 Think they should use cx90/70 length instead.
Great review as always Thomas, not sure about that interior though 🧐
If you want an X5 and can't afford it, get X5 model 2021 certified used car with dealer warranty.
The Japanese is reliable but not as heart touching as the German. ( and not bankrupting you as the German would).
There's absolutely nothing wrong with genuine leather being used for car upholstery.
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment.
You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. The classic approach is using oil/plastic as source material. Overall, a vehicle contains about 300 kg plastic. A car seat needs about 5 kg plastic. So the overall plastic share for the seats is very low and it is at this moment the most efficient way to produce a car seat. A couple of litres of fuel equals a car seat basically. So if you want to save oil/plastic, rather look at consumption for energy, fuel and heating and to other car parts than the seat. Note that animal skin leather also always contains a plastic coating for durability. However, long-term we should of course find raw oil alternatives. So going further, seats can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even increased share of plant-based materials (like pine oil, canola oil or start-up materials like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum, so be seen at th-cam.com/video/S1aNZeoatmE/w-d-xo.html). On a calculation base, by ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en) - and that is a very conservative calculation. So it is at this moment the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable.
A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensafin: th-cam.com/video/1pRNkW9nrrw/w-d-xo.html
And the Kia EV9 with plant-based oil share: th-cam.com/video/6vXePQi_MAk/w-d-xo.html
New leatherette materials can be superior in every aspect, even for cleaning: th-cam.com/video/u94YXJ72UTA/w-d-xo.html
More and more natural materials are rising: th-cam.com/video/nRSsXEnwHDo/w-d-xo.html
Also check out what the animal skin leather industry tried to with our channel: th-cam.com/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/w-d-xo.html
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Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally.
Also a group of researchers and German journalists from public media could recent directly trace the connection between car animal leather production and illegal burning down Amazon rain forest:
www.daserste.de/information/reportage-dokumentation/ard-story/videos/illegales-leder-video-100.html
In a high animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the "first" misuse case, the hide remains a profitable body part. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the primary use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse? Remember that animal skin leather is no different to fur, fur is just leather where the hair is still on. And fur is widely not accepted for clothing anymore, and of course not for cars.
We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
For a great insight into sustainability in the automotive industry, you can also check out our extensive documentary:
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They should have made the Euro models for the US. The 90 is even a little too big and bulbous. The 90 as a 2 row and called the 70 is a miss. The 60 could have taken the CX-5 place.
Here from the USA. All the world needed was the CX-60 and the CX-90. The 70 and 80 are both unnecessary. Lots of us here in the US are very disappointed to not have gotten the CX-60.
In USA too?
Europe and Japan only I understand
CX-60 came with a lot of problems, something not expected from Mazda. Hopefully this one is better.
Maybe my next car.
Hey Thomas, you don't get Buick in Europe? 2025 Buick Enclave Avenir looks really good so I'm comparing it with Mazda.
sadly not m8 !
I despise the cover for the center console and can't stand mazada made the side doors inconvenient by taking away the tiny compartment near the window buttons to store little things in. People like to take crap out of their pockets when driving and not throw EVERYTHING in the center console area.
CX-90 costs almost the same as CX-60 with 3.3 petrol engine in maximum configuration. Therefore, it is not clear why anyone decide to buy CX-70 or CX-80. The same situation with CX-5 in max configuration. Its price is almost the same as CX-60 in base configuration.
With that price it's really Bargain SUV ❤️
the trick is, this trim will cost to more than entry price. that's a shame he didn't show how entry trim will look like