Why the updated Cupra Formentor is their most important car!
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- This is our in-depth review of the 2025 Cupra Formentor. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and technology.
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00:00 Their most important car
00:56 Wheels, length, DCC
01:36 Illuminated logo
02:16 Light signatures
02:51 Interior: doors and steering
04:04 Seats and comfort
05:27 Interior upgrades
07:42 New Sennheiser sound
08:19 Rear seating
10:08 Trunk / boot
11:19 Engines
12:30 VZ models?
13:51 Light show and pricing
14:49 Cupra in the USA?
Data and facts:
Cupra Formentor facelift
Cupra launching on US market probably with an electric successor of this one and later with a larger EV SUV
120.000 Formentor sales in 2023 (230.000 overall Cupra sales)
Germany strongest Formentor market
Sharknose front
Matrix LED
4,45 m 175“
18-19“ wheels
Illuminated logo rear
New Century Bronze Matt and Enceladus Grey Matt colors
Opt. DCC
1.5 TSI 150 hp 6-manual or DSG MHEV
1.5 TSI PHEV FWD 204 hp or VZ 272 hp 80 km / 50 miles realistic range 11 kW AC / 50 kW DC 20 kWh net
2.0 TSI 204 hp AWD DSG
VZ:
2.0 TSI 265 hp FWD DSG or 333 hp AWD DSG with torque splitter and optional performance brakes, drift mode
2.0 TDI 150 hp DSG
VZ models with sound actuator
Sports seats in textile or Bucket seats with microfibre or animal skin or lower Cup Bucket seats for the VZ
13“ infotainment standard
Illuminated temperature slider
Sennheiser 12 speaker system
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00:00 Their most important car
00:56 Wheels, length, DCC
01:36 Illuminated logo
02:16 Light signatures
02:51 Interior: doors and steering
04:04 Seats and comfort
05:27 Interior upgrades
07:42 New Sennheiser sound
08:19 Rear seating
10:08 Trunk / boot
11:19 Engines
12:30 VZ models?
13:51 Light show and pricing
14:49 Cupra in the USA?
End of the car looks better now, but front was better before.
exactly.
still like it
But it looks very nice to me tbh. This front is so clean and nice, and gives this shark nose feedback
Styling took a horizontal step with this car; not worse overall, just different.
I think in person the front will be hot
I’d take this over the troc in a heartbeat
Most people would, but this is more expensive
As a owner of VW car I’m with u on that, their new range is 🤮
Why?
@@craigandrews7544the new design of the VW like Tiguan etc looks awful! It’s almost like an EV
Finally a real VW performance SUV for the US.333HP AWD SUV that Thomas can sit in comfortably in the second row behind his driver seat setting. Magnificent just magnificent!!!
He can sit back there on short trips. But its hardly comfortable.
"SUV" this is a FWD biased lifted hatchback that's compromised in almost every way
I love my VZ5 390 HP and great prices on the secondary market.
This car is so fast also in the turns tanks to the Torque spitter. I had a Abt Chipt VZ with 370HP and the Differenz to the VZ5 is like day and night even though it "it only has 20hp more" it feels in comparison like 100HP more. And im so much faster in the turns.
the title/thumbnail is technically wrong and also at 1:09, the T-Roc is sitting on the old MQB-A1 platform while the Formentor is on MQB evo, so they are not twins, the third generation Tiguan would be the real twin😅
otherwise great review as always!
Thanks for the addition! What I want to say is that the base platform is the same and they are also almost equivalent size and competitors from these two brands internally
yeah, it's more of a tiguan, especially in dimension's
@@autogefuehlwell, still kinda wrong😅
it's not the same base platform, the only thing that they have in common is the "MQB" name, fwd architecture and some engines, they are even shared on MLB. the real twins of the T-Roc are the Škoda Karoq and Seat Ateca!
the Formentor is technically nothing but a Seat (Cupra) Leon KL on stilts, that one is also on MQB evo and not the old MQB-Ax😉
@@igorbia3766that's actually true, in case of the Tiguan III. they don't have the same dimensions, but the same wheelbase, and that is more important in this case.
It's like T-Roc - Formentor - Tiguan length wise, in between, fair enough also to compare it to the Tiguan
thank God they kept the buttons in the steering wheel... I hate the new "haptic" touch things in the new cars
The design team got it right and done a good job, for an aggressive looking crossover, the design is very cohesive, best looking in its segment i can feel the hard work of design team in this one 😊
Love it!!! Super happy they took design elements from the Urban Rebel concept
I'm not sure if I like it or not. I feel like pre-facelift looked more angry, more BMW kinda way. This looks like Honda/Kia/Hyundai
They kept front fog lights which is quite distinctive on Formentor
Rear logo really didn't need to be illuminated. Pre-facelift rear turn signals looked cooler
Thank god for actual buttons on steering wheel.
I just hope infotainment system isn't still bugged like on current cars
I really hope they stick 5 cylinder again in it. Audi (VAG) needs to keep 5 cylinder alive as long as possible
I agree with these illuminated logos. They can appear gaudy at times. If you could switch them off/on in the infotainment lighting I wouldn't mind.
Never understood why so many brands use that disgusting cheap scratchy textured plastic on top of the doors. Is the $25 in savings really worth it? Just use the soft touch plastic, no one is asking for full nappa leather with contrast hand stitching in a 35k car but stop with the cheap crap
Also, they could at least add a bit of ambient lighting there as well
VAG made over 9 million vehicles last year. $25 x 9 million… that’s a big saving.
Most cars rarely carry passengers in the rear, so it's not that important.
They want customer to miss the soft touch so much that they upgrade to the brand premium model in the next 2,3, or 5 years, which give more profit to car manufacturers
@@matthewp9015 and how much they lose in sales bc of their material choice? in the end they lose money
Wow, two videos in one day! :D Thanks Thomas, Lea and Autogefuhl!
😎💪
Huge step forward for Formentor
Its literally the same car, cash grab
Great review Thomas!
I currently drive an Ateca FR 1.5 TSI.
i could have chosen the Formentor but the first generation was not convincing enough for me. I also like the extra headroom and trunk space with the Ateca.
The new Formentor looks great and I might consider chosing it when I replace my Ateca in the future.
Looks amazing.
Wow dropped this video faster than cupra themselves lol , well done 👍🏻
I didn't know our Thomas is a gamer too!
Top review 🎉🎉
Looks fab! Will have to check it out.
And as always, excellent review! You really are the top of the tube.
Thanks so much!!
Looks great, and distinctive.
Very nice facelift especially the steering wheel & screen updates & I'm more interested in the Cupra Leon so fingers crossed this will be the next video from your good self!!👌🏻👍🏻😊
Thanks !! Did a German video on the Leon: th-cam.com/video/eutwp2LKkbo/w-d-xo.html
The side view looks like the Byd sealion 07.love this golden brown/ copper color tone.
Sure hope this get released in Australia.. I was going to by the current version, but I might hold off for a year to get this one!
really impressive !
Great review when is the tavascan out please
Yet another great review. The Sennheiser speakers on the doors also look nice. It's also great the the plug in hybrid now comes with the better 1,5 liter motor like the new VW Golf. Thomas did you ignore the horrible copper tone fake exhausts this time..? They do not seam real. Do we know when they going to release the facelifted Seat Leon? It'll be interesting if the lights change to "three triangle style" also on it. Go Martorelli!
You have to rip the isofix holes, they are not open as standard when you buy a formentor, we had the same issue with both our formentors.
Non-shiny buttons and knobs on steering wheel are huge positive, compared to that the "sliding" roof capacitibe BS is ridicilous :')
Anyways, one step to the right direction once again with more physical controls!
Does Plug-in hybrids will be available as AWD ?? Do We know performance figurs for each engine ?
The hybrids are going to be only fwd
@@mk8rline its a pity 🥺
I now want to replace on my pre fl version is the center console leather side bits, thats it. I like the real bumper also. Side reflectors look great. Good job Cupra with the interior and the rear upgrades 👍🏻
I noticed that. Should be an easy retrofit, they seem to be same size, only issue may be the cost of Cupra original parts…
@@lfm18808 probably will be slightly more expensive than the pre fl side bits, however way cheaper than having them wrapped by the upholsterers in the UK
@@berks.218 To be honest I have no idea of cost of those pieces, but I agree, having them wrapped properly in leather should be expensive
You know better than to come into a Autogefuhl review and mention that bad word, aka leather. You trying to get Thomas to burst a vein in his head?
@@krane15 hahaha it’s “leather”. Or leatherette, vinil or whatever the material is, just looks better than the cheap, nasty plastic they use in the current car
Hi, Thomas I have to admit the Americans new Cupra Formentor!
And I can't wait for the upcoming 2025 test drive the new Cupra Formentor I can't wait to see!
front was waaayyy better before update
Agreed, old front had some presence this looks bland forgettable and Honda like
I don't agree. I love the new design.
@@gourami7 or ford kuga
Helpful video. In reality, the face-lift seems fairly minimal. Granted the front is changed, but side profile and interior looks much the same. Welcome upgrade on PHEV engine, battery & charging, though probably not quite far enough. Tweaks, rather than major changes.
Well facelifts generally only change "plastic parts", headlights, taillights, front bumper, rear bumper. That's the whole point. Changing the side would be much more expensive. As far as facelifts go I'd say this is middle grounds since the entire front is changed. Audi for examples has actual minimal facelifts, just look at the 2019 A6 and 2024 A6. They only changed the grille and front bumper a bit.
Very nice front and rear.
Good design by Cupra
Some nice upgrades, but the prices seem to have gone up quite a bit.
I got mine at the start of production in 2021 so I believe I got a good deal then. I don't know if I would pay some 10k more now.. even with the upgrades.
Apart from the matrix LEDs, which were not available when I ordered mine, I wouldn't say there's any significant upgrade that I'm missing or that would have me want it.
Honestly, my only complaint with the current generation is the cupholders, which were not even upgraded in the new model 😅
Such an awesome car.
right on re: (actually) opening sunroof. and the triforce. and VW bringing this Stateside.
What a dramatic car!
VZ5 is such a beast!!😊
Apart from the looking, they finally improved some annoying problematic things with facelift introduction which are non-illuminated multimedia screen touch buttons(climate, volume) , non-cooled wireless charging unit, intermittently non-working overhead console(same desing but supplier has been changed finally). Good step forward. Now it is time to implement the adjustable 2-same size cup
holder, frame-less rear view mirror, door pocket and glove box fabric coating with new model after facelift 😀
Hardly anyone buys Cupra in Australia. I think because it is a new brand at a fairly high price point. There are literally only 24 Formentors advertised on Australia’s largest car sales website including new and used. I am interested to know if the quality stack up to the price? I like the brand and formentor styling but unsure if they are worth the money vs VW or Skoda.
In which version is the manual transmission offered?
Probably the entry level 1.5tsi like in the 8.5 golf
As far as VW is concerned, the manual is dead, and its not coming back.
@@krane15 I've already checked, and the most basic, you can get it with a manual transmission. But don't worry, in other regions, VW still makes 5 and 6 speed manual transmissions, so when the electrification trend passes, we have transmissions to sell them.
Looks good. I wish it'd come to the South African market
So this video is not in 4K, full screen, full length? 🤔
There are 2 new things actually. First You can open baggage from inside with button, Second is Seinheiser sound system. That new face not look aggressive like previous version. So no need to change 2 years old Formentor with new one :)
You can open and close the trunk in the current one from the inside as well, at least when it has the automatic opening
Is there USB C for Dashcam ??
Data and facts:
Cupra Formentor facelift
Cupra launching on US market probably with an electric successor of this one and later with a larger EV SUV
120.000 Formentor sales in 2023 (230.000 overall Cupra sales)
Germany strongest Formentor market
Sharknose front
Matrix LED
4,45 m 175“
18-19“ wheels
Illuminated logo rear
New Century Bronze Matt and Enceladus Grey Matt colors
Opt. DCC
1.5 TSI 150 hp 6-manual or DSG MHEV
1.5 TSI PHEV FWD 204 hp or VZ 272 hp 80 km / 50 miles realistic range 11 kW AC / 50 kW DC 20 kWh net
2.0 TSI 204 hp AWD DSG
VZ:
2.0 TSI 265 hp FWD DSG or 333 hp AWD DSG with torque splitter and optional performance brakes, drift mode
2.0 TDI 150 hp DSG
VZ models with sound actuator
Sports seats in textile or Bucket seats with microfibre or animal skin or lower Cup Bucket seats for the VZ
13“ infotainment standard
Illuminated temperature slider
Sennheiser 12 speaker system
#Cupra #CupraFormentor
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I'm disappointed that the PHEV is not AWD... 😔
I honestly like the new "shark nose" front... but dont like the new 3 dots (triangular) signature lights
Interesting, I have the exact opposite opinion :D glad to see somebody likes it, I like the brand and hope they grow.
I have the current Gen leasing ending soon and I'd love another formentor but I really want ventilated seats in spain and they don't offer it at all 😢 don't they have anyone living in spain? It's so hot here! 😅
Being a Spanish subsidiary of VW, that is a massive oversight! How is that not even an option?
I would buy this in the VZ5 spec in a heartbeat, not really interested in the 2 liter TSI versions, one can only hope...
New Formentor base msrp: 39,400 euros. the configurator opens on May 6th, for both the Formentor and the Leon.
What was the old one msrp?
@@mankvlpwnz no
Is platform still the same? Or did they change it for 2025? T-Roc and current Formentor model don't share the platform.
whole VW group share the few variations of same platform. Thomas is wrong, T roc and Formentor are not actual competitors by their market positioning. Cupra is C segment and T roc is B segment.
Unfortunately the Cupras coming here the north America will be all ev's so no formentors. As someone that lives in North America ( Canada ) i would love a formentor vz5.
I have a troc and a formentor but formentor is much larger! longer and wider inside? It definitely dont feel like its from the same platform formentor drives more like a sportshatchback wile troc drives more like a sportssuv
I have 2023 model but this is wild I am gonna sell and buy this one
Do they have this in all electric model?
no
The best one
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now starts at 39k euros, which is quite a lot more expensive....
so 1.5 tsi manual, 39k?
900hp Lotus Eletre R review this please
Please use a laser for length measurement of the luggage space. You will thank me 😂
What a sharp looking car, I hadn't seen Cupra's in the flesh until very recently, it'd be amazing to get some of their designs in North America!
Too bad they don't import to North America. Although its still a size small for me.
CUPRA is launching in the US later this year/early next year!
Great design overall , much better than VW and Skoda. The screen tablet ruins it all. C'mon Cupra when you'll start integrating the sceens ?
Did they upgrade the horn?
The current one is so weak, I wouldn't have it on my bicycle.
Forgot 4k, full screen, full-length? :D
Last weeks Cupra Presentation QUOTE: "May 6 that will be the day that prospects can start configuring en start ordering the new formentor and leon on our websites...." Well where can we configure?
Is the steering wheel animal free?
There are latches in the boot on the sides to drop the seats without reaching for the seats over the boot. Just little detail.
As for FL I like the interior changes and more power for hybrid but design wise the front is terrible and those lights are even worse than whole front ....
Hm not there is nothing in the boot to fold the seats? Where would that be?
Omg that Formenthoar pronun iation!!
It's pronounced foR-men-toRR
Formenthoar ;)) i am dying of laughter
I don’t hate the new design but they made something’s worse like the cubbies left and right of the gear selector being much smaller (current right one is the perfect size for a 6.1 inch screen iphone - I don’t have the wireless charger, which at least in this version is cooled). Also they lost the levers to lower the rear seats for some reason. The rear doors still look really cheap, they could have at least added ambient lighting…
Doesn’t look like they have fixed the cup holders either, that don’t really hold any size of cup.
@@michael_houghton noticed that as well. And still no cover over them like Skoda has, makes the console much cleaner looking imo
Skoda controls on the doors
hi, love the rewievs, but can you at least put in text the "kW" next to your "horsepower"?
I do not own any horses, but i have plenty of devices with output in Watts or kiloWatts...thanks
TOP!👍😍👌💪😳
I think they nailed it, and so did you with your review. :)
Do they offer the new DCC system of the corporation or is it the older, one-valve system?
Older
Since when? T roc is a B segment car, same as T cross or Taigo, but slightly bigger and Formentor is a C segment. Seat Arona is a B segment in Seat (all this by JATO Dynamic standards, so its official). Whole vw group sits on similar platform, cant be positioning cars by that standars
You can tell they have really identified their target audience when you see that they spent money on designing triangles on the bottom part of the door cards but they didnt include felt inside of the bottle holders. This can be extrapolated to: as long as it looks cool, trendy and gamer-ish, who cares whats on the inside, right?
Where does Seat fit in or they just change their name to Cupra?
Cupra is a sub brand to Seat. Originally hot Seat's came with a Cupra badge ( you also had FR as well which were not as quick ). VW decided to have Cupra go it alone. A little like Toyota and Lexus but Cupra is sold as a young, sporty brand rather than luxury. Apparently it's gone well enough that the VW group are looking to keep Cupra but potentially drop Seat completely in the not too distant future. You could still purchase FR model Seat's but they are the equivalent of N Line at Hyundai ( bodywork without the engineering to back it up ).
It will be a good purchasing option as in China and also in Europe, but it will be left out in the American markets. It will be necessary to put it there.
Fake exhausts?
It never fails. Every time I think I like a car from the VW Group you get to the infotainment and those annoying sliders begin to turn me away. Can't they just put bottoms and a physical slider. If they only designed it with a face plate I could replace it with something from the aftermarket similar to a light switch. Pity since Cupra's animation is one of the best I've seen yet. Although I still think the screen is mounted too high.
Very nicely designed steering when with real buttons. Tasteful if not head turning. Wish there were a powered option. On the negative side, I really can't express how much I hate seat with integrated headrests. Its such a pretentious addition to a family SUV. Even a sporty one. Go for an 8 hour cross-country trip and you will long for more adjustments. The hard touch injection molded plastic in the rear is a let down. That's always the instant give away to an economy product.
As far as exterior design goes, the Korean still have the advantage with their under spoiler wiper design, and rear view mirror camera. The wheels aren't ugly (like all EVs except Tesla), but they are of neutral styling.
The package shelf that can't be stored away in the car is just a poor design. There's sufficient knee room in the rear -- even for long-legged Thomas -- but the seat cushion are short and low. Of course its a compact and a higher seat would eat into the head room.
Exterior lighting, on the other hand, is tasteful without being gaudy or ostentatious (Do the rear window go all the way down?) I love the super-formed sheet metal and the hip creases on the rare finder. A very masculine design.
every single formentor i saw was being driven by a 50/60 year old in nardo grey................. this will suit them well too
Great design!It would be great if we would be able too see aerodynamic test in the wind tunnel of the Cupra range cars.
Don't like the front, or the creases over the hips. Overall external design feels "meh" 😕
But where is leon? Cant wait for the video.
Why would anyone buy a Leon when you can get a Formentor?
@@N1ckZ cause Leon is much fun. I'm also looking for Leon and not Formentor.
@@N1ckZ lower center of gravity and sportier look, I guess. They're also much much better handling than formentor (besides VZ5) and a bit cheaper.
Had a SUV/crossover for 7years. Went for Leon after it, and would not change back for SUV. Lower center gravity, smaller/cheaper tyres, less noise, lower consumption especially with doing a lot of kilometers. How many times did i need SUV to climb somewhere in 7years? 3 times.
Made a German video on the Leon: th-cam.com/video/eutwp2LKkbo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=iUk0ibenHHJ80wEw
Front end design a massive downer compared to previous model.
Waited for the fake exhaust police… but was disappointed 😔
They do look shit though tbh
Hahah for me the front split design looks a bit like rav4
Front looks like a Bejing or BYD to me
2:26 it cant be more different. front turn signals - triangles with on-off, rear turn signals - line with cascading.... terrible. why the hell are not triangles in the rear/ or line in the front as well....?
Cupra is killing with their design lately all their cars are much better looking than VW
thank god no high gloss black plastics in the interior!
Hope Audi will see that comment
Hope Audi see that comment
kaputa bir amortisör koyamamışlar mı? 😅
vw suv premium performace
It looks nice from all angles 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Too bad it is not electric, I like the Cupra design. Would like to see a Cupra Version of id.4 or so
Tavasacan is the id5
💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Logo looks like gamer laptop logo
Looks like a Decepticon, really cool design.
Absolutely ruined the fron the aggressive squat front was its best feature this new grille and the black lamps look anonymous could be chinese
Hard disagree
Here come the army of whiners. Get used to it, every second 25 year old in Europe will have one😂
*absolutely fixed it. You can cry as much as you like.
Agree
The old front looked like a pre-facelift Hyundai i30 lol
Oh no. The front looked way better on the previous one :(
Don't fix if it isn't broken. So many facelifts that are worst then the previous model. Designers please don't change what is perfect already, just improve and correct the bad things, start with bringing back physical buttons for AC. Listen to your customers or you'll be next Nokia