I'm dying over here 😂😂😂, i didn't know that I needed this. But all i want to say is that there is no shame in knowing how to speak the so called "Ancient" Kiswahili/Swahili properly. Whether you are from Tanzania or Kenya. We have different accents due to various reasons...we all learnt that in school. Great video 👍🏼
There is no shame, it's evolution, language evolves no? English is not the same everywhere in the world, that's why the Rwandese, Congo, Comoros, Uganda, Kenya don't speak the same Swahili. So many factors affect language. Mainland Tz and Coast Tz Swahili is not the same.
And please what is Swahili, mnakosea mkisemasema Swahili. It is Kiswahili and not Swahili, Swahili is based on a white man's pronunciation kwa kuwa hangeweza sema kiswahili. But it's kiswahili and not Swahili ama kuna wazungu hapa? Wacheni mashauzi hapa. Eti Swahili what the hell is Swahili. We sound like those Nairobian film makers who put everything in English to please the white sponsors no wonder most kenyans don't watch Kenyan movies to be honest. We all are trying to suit the white man's lingo.
As Kenyans, we don't speak fluent Swahili. Our Swahili has been influenced by English and tribal languages. The slang is out of this world, and it's generational. You should hear what kids and teenagers are speaking right now. I am 30 years but sometimes I don't understand a thing.there is even a slang dictionary in Kenya. It's that crazy. But we are proud of Tanzanians for keeping the fluent Swahili intact.
In short Tanzanians speak better swahili... Its something to be proud about. English is not our language (Tanzanians or kenyans)and we should communicate in our own language..
@@africanresource920 unaongelea Watanzania idadi ya watu milioni 60 au ni hao wachache uliowasikia. Kuongezea pia, General Kenyan English accent is not top notch by the way. Does not sound good.
Nafikiria Inategemea Unatokea Upande Gani Kutoka Kenya Watu Kutokea Mombasa Tunaelewa Kiswahili Cha Tanzania 🇹🇿 Vizuri Sana Sisi Tuko Maeneo Ya Pwani kwahivyo hakuna changamoto zozote greeting from Switzerland 🇨🇭
Being an American, I know what she is talking about. Kenyans on the coast speak Sanifu Swahili “Deep Swahili”. So do Tanzanians. In Nairobi they speak Sheng (it is what it is). And the further away from the coast you get the less the “Deep Swahili” is understood. Being a student if Swahili, I have run into these barriers often. Love the language by the way.
and the closer you shall get to Congo Kinshasha, the more confusing the Swahili shall be: In Congo, they have four different dialects of complicated Swahili
Kenyans could speak good Swahili if they wanted to, but they choose not to. There is a general attitude among young Kenyans that good Swahili is for old fashioned people. It also explains why you rarely see a youthful person buying a Swahili daily newspaper like Taifa Leo. Kenyans deliberately water down and cannibalize the language, which is very unfortunate. Personally, even though I'm a Sheng speaker, I prefer we spoke the standard language and do so whenever an opportunity arises
Am Ugandan. I have worked in Dar es Salaam and Nairobi. Honestly, Tanzanians speak swihili faster and with more rare words. Most times, I have to ask them to slow and simplify for me. As a UGANDAN, I speak English most but understand Swihili. Tanzanians can not tell their are first while speaking Swihili, it is an out who can tell you. I love East Africa as a whole. Tanzanians are Unique in their way. Ugandans are more welcoming. Kenyans are workaholic.
Mkwanja is one of TZ slang words for money, it is mostly used in squater and people of that Race. The other slang synonyms for money is Mshiko, fuba, mpunga/mchele e.t.c
Am Arabic speaker although I don’t speak Swahili but if someone speaks Swahili slowly I can understand many words due to similarities between the two languages but I noticed that the TZ one is more clear I suppose or maybe because it is ancient as Kenyan girl said 😂 or (fasaha) which is an Arabic word. Great content though am subscribing to your channel I might improve my Swahili knowledge ❤
Ladies you studied English right from Primary to Secondary that's why you are able to speak good English , and initially Kenyan here mistake you to be Kenyans
As a Zanzibari who once engaged with both Tanzanians and Kenyans I'd assure you the standard swahili is only spoken in ZANZIBAR. The rest are just used to conveying their thoughts without regarding sentence structures, "TAHAJIA" and all the basic swahili grammar.
In Mombasa Swahili people generally think that Tanzanians apart from tanga and dar area aren't good Swahili speakers...Mombasa. Swahili is hands down the best in the world
Mkwanja we do use in Tanzania but it's a very informal language. We also do say changamoto but depend on a sentence you say and it's often use on formal matters and on papers. For me it's depend to which language I want to speak ,if it's swahili then I will think in Swahili,if it's English,I will think in English.
We as swahili people we don't see the difference between each other coz first we came from same tribe and we are related in many ways and I think most of people from coast of 🇰🇪🇹🇿 have same way of speaking swahili
Surely there is no way “Swahili” people are from the same tribe, that’s like all south africans are the same because they speak English are all from the same tribe
They don't. Zanzibar's version is accepted in literature as the 'standard' may be because it is the easiest, and this 'accepting' probably had nothing to do with authentic speakers but foreigners who would prefer to learn an easy version. Even mainland Tanzania doesn't speak it. I find Mombasa's more sweet, natural especially the accent. As you head towards Lamu it gets tougher.
The speaking differs becoz of some vocabularies. Example kulala ni kiswahili fasaha lakini watu WA msa husema(anlala ), lamu(ulele) tanga(kalala/Shirazi ppl from tanga husema(kanaya/ya) Kuna utofauti kulingana na mahali mtu anapotoka baadhi ya maneno waweza kuyaelewa lakini baadhi huwezi kwa sababu ni kile kiswahili cha kiundani asokuwa mtu WA hapo hawezi kuelewa mf twaa means take kwa kiswahili fasaha lakini kivumba ni (rwaa) nenda ni fasaha lakini kimtangata ni (awa) waona tofauti yajaa hapo sasa
I find it weird that the creators are speaking English in a Swahili 'curated' video. just speak Swahili and we'll see the differences in the speaking itself
People who speak Swahili as their first language are found along the East African coast, stretching from southern Somalia to the border between Tanzania and Mozambique and the offshore islands of Lamu, Zanzibar, Pemba, the Comoros, and the northwestern part of Madagascar.
I understand TZ songs more than kenyan yet I'm Kenyan. I am not perfect in swahili but I understand everything a Tanzanian says, talking is where I draw a line. Kenyan songs are in sheng and sheng in Nairobi is quite different from sheng in another town. Different shengs different places, yaani ni lahaja na kila mtaa una lahaja zake.
Unlike in Kenya , in Tanzania the English language was suppressed since the time of the founding father Mwalimu Julius K Nyerere and Kiswahili was given the first priority and declared the only national and official language that should be used in Government and all institutions of learning. That's why Tanzania have been trained to speak good Kiswahili.
hehehehe much love from Kenya. Worked in Dar back in 2010. Anytime i opened my mouth to speak they would be like "lahaja yako ni ya kikenya". Eventually i used to tell them "Bora tuwasiliane"
I think they didnt mean it in a bad way, i personally get excited hearing someone with a kenyan/nairobian accent, because as much as our two countries are geographically close still most tanzanians dont interact with kenyans in a regular basis
In the Kenyan education system, English and Kiswahili are compulsory from primary school to high school. But all other subjects like sciences are taught in English. Any Kenyan who went through the public education understands what proper Kiswahili is. The fluency varies though and what they choose to speak on the streets is up to them based on what they prefer whether it is English, Kiswahili, Sheng, mother tongue etc. Please, Sheng is not Kiswahili, so it should not even be used as a benchmark of proper Kiswahili and a way to judge Kenyans. Not all Kenyans speak Sheng and many do not even understand it contra to what is said out here. Also Sheng varies and changes based on location.
Kenyans are the best in Swahili because we pronounce the words well and for Tanzanian aren't the best , for example the word ( Raha) in Kenya we pronounce it well Raha .... And in Tanzania they pronounce laha so Kenya is the best in Swahili language
that Kenyan girl needs to check her facts again am Kenyan and I speak fluent kiswahili nobody should take pride in knowing colonial language.ill do a proper video
Honestly Tanzanian songs are nice but some words are challenging and we need to go back to kamusi so that we can understand,but some are like slang because there are not in kamusi
Kiswahili in Kenya is heavily influenced by ethnic inclinations, in Kenya it's the youth who deliberately struggle to use their slang and refuse to use proper language. In Tanzania, they use standard Swahili but the wanyika...bantu population inland have have heavy ethnic pronunciation. All along the coastal area in Kenya and Tanzania use Swahili as their common language. You are discussing Swahili as commonly used by youth in urban and rural l areas....in both countries. But remember, Kenyan youth deliberately avoid or refuse to use proper Swahili so as to be viewed as urbanites or refined. Some words , like Hela actually refers to five cents, therefore Generally referring to money... Most bantu communities in Kenya and Tanzania have that problem of pronouncing R or L.... Ningefurahia Sana kama mngejadiliana kwa lugha ya kiswahili... ....
If uou say bantu communities strugle to pronounce swahil words it's true... In Uganda we totally failed to speak swahil bse of that. The none bantu areas can speak it, like in Northern Uganda but southern parts nara we can't try, infact it's very funny speaking swahil here, eventhough some schools teach it but students don't practice it in real life, it's also optional in schools you can drop it. We use Our local languages and English
We as swahili people we don't see the difference of each other coz we are related in many ways ,but maybe other tribes of Tanzanian/kenya they may see the difference,
But How do you compare TanZania 🇹🇿 Swahili with Swahili in Kenya 🇰🇪 while you know for fact that Swahili was born in Tanzania. How do you compare a Mother (TZ) with a child (KE) intern of Swahili language.
A person from Kenya bara will speak something like this: "Kiswahili ya Kenya, enyewe, kuna venye iko tofauti na ile ya Bongo kusema tu ile ukweli yani... Na si ju ati Kenya tunapenda kuongea Kizungu mingi- zi! Ile vita tuko nayo na Swa' ni ile kitu wanaita Sheng." Now, the above statement is in the typical spoken Swahili you'll encounter in mainland Kenya. Make your way to the Kenyan coast and it gets waaay better, almost a Zanzibari accent, with the vocabulary to boot.
I feel like when it comes down to languages, there's no such thing as better because everyone will use the Standard Language according to their regions. Of course for Swahili speakers we also have circles like those who speak it as a first language (Waswahili) are the inner circle or originals if you like then those of us who have it as a second language (majority) depending on your indigenous tribes ,am Luhya( Western Kenya) for instance, are the second circle then we have the expanding circle i.e. Congo and South Africa and I think recently Rwanda too. Different factors will always affect language so there's absolutely no way anyone will ever be fluent, like region, accent, language growth etc. So no there's no such thing as ancient language, it's their way of talk and how they understand each other and disregarding that is shear ignorance. Anyway, the difference between Kenyan and Tanzanian English is our wording and accent . Kenyans choose the shortest way possible to say a word even if it means mixing it up while Tanzanian is more straightforward but both have different pidgins created from them according to language play in their regions, there's no shame in wanting to speak a certain way.
I have a tanzanian boyfriend it's quite a challenge when we r trying to speak Swahili coz mine is so funny 🤣 buh he does understand me kinda...buh most of da time it's English but all in all I do understand Swahili 🤣😂🤣 ata kama ni kibaya ....much luv from qatar 🇶🇦🇰🇪🥰
Tz Swahili is like from Jesus's days type of English.. Thy Thou Thee knowest... very Shakespeare like!! Kenyan swahili is simple...like easy Chinese.Much love from 🇰🇪
You are right, if you listen to gospel songs made in Tanzania it sounds very 'Shakespearen' in terms that gospel singers in Tanzania use the formal standard Kiswahili words you find in dictionary while secular songs by the artist, the likes of Diamond Platnumzs' they use other form of Swahili which I may say it is like doing swahili poetry were the secular artists play around with syllables to fit in their lyrics plus flow of their unique pronunciation and thus is why Kenyans at times are left out. I believe most Kenyans can follow and understand gospel music from Tanzanian singers or choirs with ease.
@@kijanahodari2080 .Christians pray in any language, otherwise all bibles would be in the hebrew language.You are very wrong to claim that Jesus doesn't know any English.
You ladies are soooo Beautiful 💯% 👈...Funny Review of the subtle differences of two neighboring countries sharing the same language. Thanks for sharing, Now I want to learn Kenswali or Tanzenglish...lol Have a blessed day. Shalom✌🙏
Mkwanja is a "street" language meaning money in Tanzania. In Kenya alone Kiswahili from the coast and the rest of the country differs, same situation in Tz.
In kenya we do kiswahili as a subject from class 1 to 8...in form 1 we also have kiswahili to form 4 fasihi etc..the problem is the rest of the subjects are in english.but broken swahili,sheng and english carry most of our day to day conversations..We do understand tz songs huyo pekee ndio ako na shida.
Class one kiswahili Gani ulikuwa unajua,see you ukiwa ushangu ,get seroius nilisoma kiswahili mpaka 4th form but still don't speak fluent the thing is fluent
Another aspect of Tanzanian Kiswahili is the invention , and creation of new words / terminologies by the Kiswahili scholars mainly with the intention of translating or finding an equivalent English words in to Kiswahili. Hence you will in many cases hear Tanzanians use some words that are traditionally not familiar in Kiswahili.
Another thing, Tanzanians will easily read a newpaper in Swahili while Kenyans struggle to read Swahili even if it's their first language. Almost no one reads a Swahili newspaper.
Zeisev Ismanov Swahili language was not brought from anywhere , it was all along a local Bantu language of the east African coast but just like many major languages all over the world , it has borrowed some words , from Arabic , Persian, Portuguese , Indian languages through early Indian ocean trading
I just feel like she didn't pay much attention while in School because we learned Swahili from the first class to college. The difference is we prefer English more because it's literally everywhere and also kenyans speak alot of tribal languages.
Eastern coast of east africa not tanzania to be specific. During those early years there was no country. Infact it was known as east africa before it was devided by europeans.
Pure swahili sanifu is spoken in zanzibar Town only in East Africa...other part in East africa speak swahili depending on the region they where they are from and their understanding and swahili was influenced by Arabic, Portuguese and some of the bantu languages
Zege is concrete? Lord! There's a Swahili word for concrete?😁 Tanzanians do know a lot of Swahili. I got a grade A in my Secondary national examination in Swahili, but I don't get half of what's in Tanzanian Swahili songs. I always wondered what they were about
Zanzibaris have always criticised the Kiswahili that is spoken in mainland Tanzania (Tanganyika) and in fact as you travel inland (Mikoani) in Tanzania the dialects keeps changing just like in Kenya , even though Tanzanian government policy has ensured that Kiswahili is the main language of instruction in all levels of education.
Yes we do understand the songs as Kenyans. Kenyans know Kiswahili sanifu but we prefer the simplest words to quickly pass the message!!! However this is the part Tz people don’t like, Kiswahili was born in Kenya.
As a Kenyan, Tanzanian Swahili is really difficult. Ours is simple. When I listen to Tanzanian songs, I understand the message but some words used there seem not to exist. Anyway here in Kenya we use English right from Kindergarten
It’s so difficult to generalise tanzania and Kenya cause some people in Kenya do speak Swahili like Tanzanians like in coastal areas but also i do notice tanzania on average do speak more fluently. Idk if in Kenya we have more influence from tribal languages into Swahili or English but the differences are so interesting. Also Kenyans struggle with r and l and it’s not because native languages don’t have r and l they do but they are often used interchangeably
Both Kenya coast and Tanzania coast speak more or less the same Kiswahili. Also both countries as travel inland/; upcountry or Mikoani as Tanzanians call it , the Kiswahili dialect and pronunciations / accent keep changing among various tribes
I am surprised that our Kenyan lady is not aware that Kiswahili at the Kenya coast is more or less the same as that of coastal Tanzania. The phrases that she is attributing to Tanzanian Kiswahili are normal phrases used in Mombasa.
Kenyan here 😅. So, I'm still stuck at their academic Swahili is bomb. That's it, it must be physically painful being in a Tanzanian school. Fun fact... Tanzanian authors think their Kenyan counterparts make up unnecessary vocabularies which is weird because normal readers of said works rarely understand most of the vocabularies. Most Kenyans would rather listen to the radio or watch the 7 pm news bulletin which are primarily done in Swahili. The question is on the fluency or rather the Tanzanian rigidity to fluency which the Kenyan speaker lacks. Say the r and l phenomenona, it exists in kenyan Swahili in Bantu speakers like the Kisii. In Kenya it's rare so it's easy to spot, but since it is relatively broad in Tanzania it kind of dissolves into a norm.
A lot of people mistakenly tend to compare Dar es Salaam Kiswahili with Nairobi Kiswahili and the call them as Tanzania Kiswahili and Kenya Kiswahili. It is important to understand that Nairobi is inland Kenya and the quality of Kiswahili Nairobi and upcountry is poor. It will be fair to compare Dar es Salaam Kiswahili with Mombasa Kiswahili both cities of which are coastal. Kiswahili has oriented from all along the coastline of East Africa from Kismayo on Kenya-Somalia border to Kilwa in southern Tanzania.
Kenyans too don’t often use ‘matata’, they rather say, poa (I am cool). And jambo is often ‘sasa or mambo.’ Additionally, Kenya Swahili depends on regions and an individual. The hakuna matata phrase became famous through a Kenyan coastal group Them Mushrooms song Jambo Bwana. The ‘r’ problem has to do with the influence of mother tongue. Some Kenyans too have such problem, also for English.
Kiswahili is not a stable language (grows everyday) with many dialects (lahaja). The three main dialects being "Kiunguja"(Zanzibar & most parts of mainland TZ), "Kimvita"(Mombasa & south coast Kenya) and "Kiamu"(Lamu Archipelago), and is inappropriate to point that a certain dialect is correct than the other. Kiswahili we learn in schools here in Kenya is "lahaja ya kiunguja" (which was selected by the British colonial regime to standardize Kiswahili in East Africa). It is very different to other dialects spoken by Kenyan coast people in terms of words pronounciation and connotations, e.g. "Lahaja ya Kimvita" spoken by people from Mombasa; they tend to use "t" instead of "ch", for example, they say "tumbi instead of "chumvi", "tungu" instead of "chungu" etc. Lahaja ya Kiamu is the most difficult to understand of them all even people from Mombasa and other south coast places say they don't sometimes understand what their fellows are saying. I don't think using a single dialect as reference to test eloquence in a language is proper. I mean, you can not use British English to test an American's knowledge of the language because they have their own dialect. And by the way, they could have used "lahaja ya Kingozi" or just "kingozi"(the origin of Kiswahili) to standardize Kiswahili if they had to.
How true. Grew up on Mombasa island and will confirm that the Waswahili there use; "dh" in place of "nj". You will hear "ndhoo huku" for "njoo huku" "Th" for "ch". Less often though, the sound "t" at times take the "th" sound. WAMVITA: "Anshinda hapa mthana kuthwa!" Note instead of "ame", you will hear "an'". WAUNGUJA: "Ameshinda hapa mchana kutwa!" But the Mvita dialect is slowly dying, Kiunguja is the standard version.
I'm dying over here 😂😂😂, i didn't know that I needed this. But all i want to say is that there is no shame in knowing how to speak the so called "Ancient" Kiswahili/Swahili properly. Whether you are from Tanzania or Kenya. We have different accents due to various reasons...we all learnt that in school. Great video 👍🏼
😂😂😂 yes definitely and I feel like speaking the same language connects our countries
@@thatgirl_haju2509 indeed
There is no shame, it's evolution, language evolves no? English is not the same everywhere in the world, that's why the Rwandese, Congo, Comoros, Uganda, Kenya don't speak the same Swahili. So many factors affect language. Mainland Tz and Coast Tz Swahili is not the same.
And please what is Swahili, mnakosea mkisemasema Swahili. It is Kiswahili and not Swahili, Swahili is based on a white man's pronunciation kwa kuwa hangeweza sema kiswahili. But it's kiswahili and not Swahili ama kuna wazungu hapa? Wacheni mashauzi hapa. Eti Swahili what the hell is Swahili. We sound like those Nairobian film makers who put everything in English to please the white sponsors no wonder most kenyans don't watch Kenyan movies to be honest. We all are trying to suit the white man's lingo.
@@mbarakamajimbo we ndo unaufala Swahili is accepted check your kamusi
As Kenyans, we don't speak fluent Swahili. Our Swahili has been influenced by English and tribal languages. The slang is out of this world, and it's generational. You should hear what kids and teenagers are speaking right now. I am 30 years but sometimes I don't understand a thing.there is even a slang dictionary in Kenya. It's that crazy. But we are proud of Tanzanians for keeping the fluent Swahili intact.
Wow there is even a slang dictionary I didn't know that hope at some point they can also go back to speaking fluent Swahili
Sheng is not Kiswahili. It is like saying Pidgin is English. The similarity between proper TZ and Kenyan Kiswahili is 95%.
No there is no tribal languages it only english or swahili
Shukran
Thank you for speaking the truth
In short Tanzanians speak better swahili... Its something to be proud about. English is not our language (Tanzanians or kenyans)and we should communicate in our own language..
Definitely I'm very proud that I can speak Swahili especially out here far from home
Tanzania's kiswahili is grammatically poor,,sweet to the ear but disorderly
Visit Mombasa and listen to their swahili you will think you are in Tanzania
@@africanresource920 unaongelea Watanzania idadi ya watu milioni 60 au ni hao wachache uliowasikia.
Kuongezea pia, General Kenyan English accent is not top notch by the way. Does not sound good.
@@kijanahodari2080 As a Zanzibari, it is similar yet very very different...
Nafikiria Inategemea Unatokea Upande Gani Kutoka Kenya Watu Kutokea Mombasa Tunaelewa Kiswahili Cha Tanzania 🇹🇿 Vizuri Sana Sisi Tuko Maeneo Ya Pwani kwahivyo hakuna changamoto zozote greeting from Switzerland 🇨🇭
Mwandiko wako unasomeka kwa accent ya bongo kabisa!! 😊
Usingesema nisingejua you are Kenyan!!
17:45 😂😂😂 i literally just used that tense "Nge" to reply in the previous comment just to hear her talk about this 😂
Tanzania kenya uganda in that order, no argument, hakuna haja ya debate
I'm Kenyan. It's my first time here and I thought you guys were Kenyan. Your accent is 100% Kenyan.
Nyie si mnahisigi sisi wote hatujui English. Freshhyyy😂
@@austinkennedy9870 😂
there is a lot to comment on this video. i think the way to view this is we (Kenyans) view Tanzanian swahili the way Americans view British English.
😂😂😂 yes that makes sense
Yet British English is original 😁
no. its the way nigerian view british or american english
@@AtwaaussalaamKalutanope, try again
Being an American, I know what she is talking about.
Kenyans on the coast speak Sanifu Swahili “Deep Swahili”. So do Tanzanians.
In Nairobi they speak Sheng (it is what it is).
And the further away from the coast you get the less the “Deep Swahili” is understood.
Being a student if Swahili, I have run into these barriers often.
Love the language by the way.
and the closer you shall get to Congo Kinshasha, the more confusing the Swahili shall be: In Congo, they have four different dialects of complicated Swahili
Tanzanian don't speak pure kiswahili, that's a lie
Kenyans could speak good Swahili if they wanted to, but they choose not to. There is a general attitude among young Kenyans that good Swahili is for old fashioned people. It also explains why you rarely see a youthful person buying a Swahili daily newspaper like Taifa Leo. Kenyans deliberately water down and cannibalize the language, which is very unfortunate. Personally, even though I'm a Sheng speaker, I prefer we spoke the standard language and do so whenever an opportunity arises
Agreed, true
I have done development work where kiswahili has been extensively used.Changamoto refers to challenges while shida refers to problems
You're right 👍 and I'm Kenyan.
Am Ugandan. I have worked in Dar es Salaam and Nairobi. Honestly, Tanzanians speak swihili faster and with more rare words. Most times, I have to ask them to slow and simplify for me. As a UGANDAN, I speak English most but understand Swihili. Tanzanians can not tell their are first while speaking Swihili, it is an out who can tell you.
I love East Africa as a whole. Tanzanians are Unique in their way.
Ugandans are more welcoming.
Kenyans are workaholic.
You are wrong...when I hear Tanzania accent they speak too slow unlike we as Kenyans we speak faster
You should move to Mombasa or Lamu and hear how fast swahili is actually spoken
In Kenya we are not workaholics...... The rest of you are just lazy
Mkwanja is one of TZ slang words for money, it is mostly used in squater and people of that Race. The other slang synonyms for money is Mshiko, fuba, mpunga/mchele e.t.c
Am Arabic speaker although I don’t speak Swahili but if someone speaks Swahili slowly I can understand many words due to similarities between the two languages but I noticed that the TZ one is more clear I suppose or maybe because it is ancient as Kenyan girl said 😂 or (fasaha) which is an Arabic word.
Great content though am subscribing to your channel I might improve my Swahili knowledge ❤
Swahili has alot of Arabic words and bantu
Kenyans we don't speak Swahili ,we speak SHENG that no East Africans can understand expect us
Which is a Swahili slung
That's not right , Sheng is for Nairobi people only not the entire Kenya
Ladies you studied English right from Primary to Secondary that's why you are able to speak good English , and initially Kenyan here mistake you to be Kenyans
As a Zanzibari who once engaged with both Tanzanians and Kenyans I'd assure you the standard swahili is only spoken in ZANZIBAR. The rest are just used to conveying their thoughts without regarding sentence structures, "TAHAJIA" and all the basic swahili grammar.
UR WRONG
@@kachemamsangi8089 prove it.
Most of people from zanzibar are narrow minded,so broh that is not your problem
Zanzibar is an Island in Tanzania guess you meant Tz
@@Sean1877 I meant Zanzibar👍
Hahaha this was so interesting to watch😂😂... Proud Tanzanian🇹🇿
In Mombasa Swahili people generally think that Tanzanians apart from tanga and dar area aren't good Swahili speakers...Mombasa. Swahili is hands down the best in the world
We Zanzibaris are just silent watching and listening you both fighting over the language none of you speak it properly 😂
Nice video😍❤️ it’s a flex speaking your language guys 🇹🇿🇹🇿❤️❤️
Yess definitely Swahili is growing so much this days ❤🔥
Real and authentic. Thank you for sharing.
Mkwanja we do use in Tanzania but it's a very informal language.
We also do say changamoto but depend on a sentence you say and it's often use on formal matters and on papers.
For me it's depend to which language I want to speak ,if it's swahili then I will think in Swahili,if it's English,I will think in English.
English and Swahili are compulsory subjects in Kenyan education system in both primary and high schools.
Thats a good thing you get to learn both
U got new sub here from Kenya nice content
Thank you so much 😊 more videos to come
We as swahili people we don't see the difference between each other coz first we came from same tribe and we are related in many ways and I think most of people from coast of 🇰🇪🇹🇿 have same way of speaking swahili
Yes most speak the same
Precisely! The standard Kiswahili in Kenya and TZ is quite similar.
Surely there is no way “Swahili” people are from the same tribe, that’s like all south africans are the same because they speak English are all from the same tribe
They don't. Zanzibar's version is accepted in literature as the 'standard' may be because it is the easiest, and this 'accepting' probably had nothing to do with authentic speakers but foreigners who would prefer to learn an easy version. Even mainland Tanzania doesn't speak it. I find Mombasa's more sweet, natural especially the accent. As you head towards Lamu it gets tougher.
The speaking differs becoz of some vocabularies. Example kulala ni kiswahili fasaha lakini watu WA msa husema(anlala ), lamu(ulele) tanga(kalala/Shirazi ppl from tanga husema(kanaya/ya) Kuna utofauti kulingana na mahali mtu anapotoka baadhi ya maneno waweza kuyaelewa lakini baadhi huwezi kwa sababu ni kile kiswahili cha kiundani asokuwa mtu WA hapo hawezi kuelewa mf twaa means take kwa kiswahili fasaha lakini kivumba ni (rwaa) nenda ni fasaha lakini kimtangata ni (awa) waona tofauti yajaa hapo sasa
I find it weird that the creators are speaking English in a Swahili 'curated' video. just speak Swahili and we'll see the differences in the speaking itself
Lol ok will do that next time
Not everyone that watches this vids are Swahili natives and by that your critics doesn't make sense! 🙄
Content is for the world and not just Swahili speakers, besides unataka waget aje Doo🤭😉
Am from Kenya and grasp of the Swahili language is so good I guess
It about your educational background
People who speak Swahili as their first language are found along the East African coast, stretching from southern Somalia to the border between Tanzania and Mozambique and the offshore islands of Lamu, Zanzibar, Pemba, the Comoros, and the northwestern part of Madagascar.
I understand TZ songs more than kenyan yet I'm Kenyan. I am not perfect in swahili but I understand everything a Tanzanian says, talking is where I draw a line. Kenyan songs are in sheng and sheng in Nairobi is quite different from sheng in another town. Different shengs different places, yaani ni lahaja na kila mtaa una lahaja zake.
Hehehe wow really😅........true tho kila mtu ana lahaja zake
Buda sasa lahaja ndio what?
@@Njeri_123 dialect
hicho kiswahili cha wapi?
Even sheng in Nairobi is different from estate to estate.
Unlike in Kenya , in Tanzania the English language was suppressed since the time of the founding father Mwalimu Julius K Nyerere and Kiswahili was given the first priority and declared the only national and official language that should be used in Government and all institutions of learning. That's why Tanzania have been trained to speak good Kiswahili.
hehehehe much love from Kenya. Worked in Dar back in 2010. Anytime i opened my mouth to speak they would be like "lahaja yako ni ya kikenya". Eventually i used to tell them "Bora tuwasiliane"
😂😂😂 I think I would say that 2
I think they didnt mean it in a bad way, i personally get excited hearing someone with a kenyan/nairobian accent, because as much as our two countries are geographically close still most tanzanians dont interact with kenyans in a regular basis
In the Kenyan education system, English and Kiswahili are compulsory from primary school to high school. But all other subjects like sciences are taught in English. Any Kenyan who went through the public education understands what proper Kiswahili is. The fluency varies though and what they choose to speak on the streets is up to them based on what they prefer whether it is English, Kiswahili, Sheng, mother tongue etc. Please, Sheng is not Kiswahili, so it should not even be used as a benchmark of proper Kiswahili and a way to judge Kenyans. Not all Kenyans speak Sheng and many do not even understand it contra to what is said out here. Also Sheng varies and changes based on location.
I dint even know what sheng was before making this video 😅😅
True, sheng ni msimu.
Sheng ni yetu🤣🤣
Kenyans are the best in Swahili because we pronounce the words well and for Tanzanian aren't the best , for example the word ( Raha) in Kenya we pronounce it well Raha .... And in Tanzania they pronounce laha so Kenya is the best in Swahili language
Personally, I hate sheng and can't think of knowing it
Its true.. we don't be getting the words in your music.. we just be vibing
😂😂😂😂 the vibe is what matters
that Kenyan girl needs to check her facts again am Kenyan and I speak fluent kiswahili nobody should take pride in knowing colonial language.ill do a proper video
Kama wewe ni Mtanzania na umechokeshwa na kingereza mingi zenye zimetumika hapa nipe like 👍 tukiendelea kujifunia lugha yetu ya kiswahili
Thanks for sharing❣️
Honestly Tanzanian songs are nice but some words are challenging and we need to go back to kamusi so that we can understand,but some are like slang because there are not in kamusi
That is if you are not from Mombasa and coast of Kenya
You people are cute. Linguistics, love from 🇰🇪.
Just love your comparison... and love tanzanian gals there just cool and respectful...bh see our gal here😂😂kiherehere miingi alfu kucheka miingi
Hehehe thank you
Kenyan musicians like Otile Brown and Nadia Mukani sing in very good Kiswahili just the same as the coast of East Africa.
Kiswahili in Kenya is heavily influenced by ethnic inclinations, in Kenya it's the youth who deliberately struggle to use their slang and refuse to use proper language.
In Tanzania, they use standard Swahili but the wanyika...bantu population inland have have heavy ethnic pronunciation.
All along the coastal area in Kenya and Tanzania use Swahili as their common language.
You are discussing Swahili as commonly used by youth in urban and rural l areas....in both countries.
But remember, Kenyan youth deliberately avoid or refuse to use proper Swahili so as to be viewed as urbanites or refined.
Some words , like Hela actually refers to five cents, therefore Generally referring to money...
Most bantu communities in Kenya and Tanzania have that problem of pronouncing R or L....
Ningefurahia Sana kama mngejadiliana kwa lugha ya kiswahili...
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Asante sana kwa kutuelimisha na sisi sote tulijadiliana kwa kizungu kwasababu video tuliokua tuna tizama pia ni English
If uou say bantu communities strugle to pronounce swahil words it's true... In Uganda we totally failed to speak swahil bse of that. The none bantu areas can speak it, like in Northern Uganda but southern parts nara we can't try, infact it's very funny speaking swahil here, eventhough some schools teach it but students don't practice it in real life, it's also optional in schools you can drop it. We use Our local languages and English
Visit Mombasa and see a type of Swahili
You mean in Bara/Kenya
Hata wanyika huko Tanzania
We as swahili people we don't see the difference of each other coz we are related in many ways ,but maybe other tribes of Tanzanian/kenya they may see the difference,
Yes that's is true Swahili unites us
Tanzania Swahili has a lot of Bantu words unlike the Mombasa, lamu Swahili which has a lot of Arabic words
Swahili is Swahili in both tanzania and kenya the only difference is the accents and slang
@@thatgirl_haju2509 Swahili is not just Swahili...it differs with richness of words too
I have never thought of this but its true
I prefer swahili versions with more bantu words, sounds better and more natural
Mkwanja ni slang
18:11 "Nge" is past participle tense i think, not sure...but its not a vocabulary 😂
Mkwanja, Mtonjo, Kibunda, Ankara, Mapene, Mshiko, Jala
Mtonyo, Mbumba, Mavumba, Maokoto, Umatemate
But How do you compare TanZania 🇹🇿 Swahili with Swahili in Kenya 🇰🇪 while you know for fact that Swahili was born in Tanzania. How do you compare a Mother (TZ) with a child (KE) intern of Swahili language.
A person from Kenya bara will speak something like this:
"Kiswahili ya Kenya, enyewe, kuna venye iko tofauti na ile ya Bongo kusema tu ile ukweli yani... Na si ju ati Kenya tunapenda kuongea Kizungu mingi- zi! Ile vita tuko nayo na Swa' ni ile kitu wanaita Sheng."
Now, the above statement is in the typical spoken Swahili you'll encounter in mainland Kenya. Make your way to the Kenyan coast and it gets waaay better, almost a Zanzibari accent, with the vocabulary to boot.
I feel like when it comes down to languages, there's no such thing as better because everyone will use the Standard Language according to their regions. Of course for Swahili speakers we also have circles like those who speak it as a first language (Waswahili) are the inner circle or originals if you like then those of us who have it as a second language (majority) depending on your indigenous tribes ,am Luhya( Western Kenya) for instance, are the second circle then we have the expanding circle i.e. Congo and South Africa and I think recently Rwanda too. Different factors will always affect language so there's absolutely no way anyone will ever be fluent, like region, accent, language growth etc. So no there's no such thing as ancient language, it's their way of talk and how they understand each other and disregarding that is shear ignorance. Anyway, the difference between Kenyan and Tanzanian English is our wording and accent . Kenyans choose the shortest way possible to say a word even if it means mixing it up while Tanzanian is more straightforward but both have different pidgins created from them according to language play in their regions, there's no shame in wanting to speak a certain way.
okay...do you study languages?
Yeah true thus what we think ..thus what we learnt in high school..we sing to the songs but we dont understand
Of course we understand. She's not a typical Kenyan to be honest. She probably speaks English all the time. But we mostly understand
I'm Tanzanian and yes we used call currency as mkwanja especially when we bet on sports
adn thats informal. the formal word is hela while kenya the formal one they call it Pesa
Yes we used the name Mkwanja long time as slang TZ
I have a tanzanian boyfriend it's quite a challenge when we r trying to speak Swahili coz mine is so funny 🤣 buh he does understand me kinda...buh most of da time it's English but all in all I do understand Swahili 🤣😂🤣 ata kama ni kibaya ....much luv from qatar 🇶🇦🇰🇪🥰
Hehe thats nice
There are some words which some Artists use which are not Swahili but are streets language
Yap we need that kind of video wacha tuchambue mbichi na mbovuu know what I mean let's go princess 😅😅
😂😂😂 kabisa
Tz Swahili is like from Jesus's days type of English.. Thy Thou Thee knowest... very Shakespeare like!! Kenyan swahili is simple...like easy Chinese.Much love from 🇰🇪
Jesus is far from English language he doesn't know any english word
@@kijanahodari2080 You're calling your Savior illiterate 😆 Utakwama kwenye gate wewe...
You are right, if you listen to gospel songs made in Tanzania it sounds very 'Shakespearen' in terms that gospel singers in Tanzania use the formal standard Kiswahili words you find in dictionary while secular songs by the artist, the likes of Diamond Platnumzs' they use other form of Swahili which I may say it is like doing swahili poetry were the secular artists play around with syllables to fit in their lyrics plus flow of their unique pronunciation and thus is why Kenyans at times are left out. I believe most Kenyans can follow and understand gospel music from Tanzanian singers or choirs with ease.
@@kijanahodari2080 .Christians pray in any language, otherwise all bibles would be in the hebrew language.You are very wrong to claim that Jesus doesn't know any English.
Nyie mnaingea kiswahili au mnaogeaga kikalinjin
Yes. As a Tanzanian, I have heard "mkwanja" used waaaay to often specifically when I was younger(I'm now in my early 20s)
Duuh I haven't 🤣
@@thatgirl_haju2509 probably bcz you are from the coast
You ladies are soooo Beautiful 💯% 👈...Funny Review of the subtle differences of two neighboring countries sharing the same language. Thanks for sharing, Now I want to learn Kenswali or Tanzenglish...lol Have a blessed day. Shalom✌🙏
Its very true that R and L seems to have the same meaning....sometimes it gets very boring watching their movies.
Nisingelifanya😅😅😅 I say nisingefanya 😅😅
Me to😂😂😂
@@thatgirl_haju2509 In kenya we're taught nisingelifanya and nisingefanya, but mostly we use "kaa sikufanya "
or kama sikufanya
Mkwanja is a "street" language meaning money in Tanzania. In Kenya alone Kiswahili from the coast and the rest of the country differs, same situation in Tz.
Me ka mkenya siezi sema changamoto unless Niko on a serious meeting
Shida and changamoto don't mean the same changamoto refers to challenge ....and shida refers to a problem
In kenya we do kiswahili as a subject from class 1 to 8...in form 1 we also have kiswahili to form 4 fasihi etc..the problem is the rest of the subjects are in english.but broken swahili,sheng and english carry most of our day to day conversations..We do understand tz songs huyo pekee ndio ako na shida.
I think the school system is the same coz that's how I studied as well
Class one kiswahili Gani ulikuwa unajua,see you ukiwa ushangu ,get seroius nilisoma kiswahili mpaka 4th form but still don't speak fluent the thing is fluent
@@margaretkisau2416 kusoma sio kujua
Another aspect of Tanzanian Kiswahili is the invention , and creation of new words / terminologies by the Kiswahili scholars mainly with the intention of translating or finding an equivalent English words in to Kiswahili. Hence you will in many cases hear Tanzanians use some words that are traditionally not familiar in Kiswahili.
Another thing, Tanzanians will easily read a newpaper in Swahili while Kenyans struggle to read Swahili even if it's their first language. Almost no one reads a Swahili newspaper.
I also struggle reading Swahili but I can write it just fine 😂😂😂
Zeisev Ismanov Swahili language was not brought from anywhere , it was all along a local Bantu language of the east African coast but just like many major languages all over the world , it has borrowed some words , from Arabic , Persian, Portuguese , Indian languages through early Indian ocean trading
Asalam alykm. Wabongo tunatumia neno mkwanja mbona sana tuu. Mi nimeondoka bongo miaka zaidi y 20 sasa n najua mkwanja inatumika pia km hela.😄😄😄😄😄
Lol I think it's stopped now lakini
I just feel like she didn't pay much attention while in School because we learned Swahili from the first class to college. The difference is we prefer English more because it's literally everywhere and also kenyans speak alot of tribal languages.
all the subjects in school were in English apart from kiswahili subject.
Hey guys watching from 254 ,proper Swahili can also be referred as kiswahili sanifu that's the correct word
Yes it is
Nviiri is the singer for pombe sigara
Congrats girls. This was very exciting and pleasant to watch!
In Tz we cold money mkwanja expecial in Arusha,also mapene or mavumba,she is rayt.
Oww I didn't know that
@@thatgirl_haju2509 karibu kipenzi
From Kenya. I have enjoyed this video.
Thank you for watching I'm glad you enjoyed
I just started studying Kiswahili, and the book says, "Jambo" is hello.
The proper word it hujambo
@@thatgirl_haju2509 Asante!
Swahili was born in Tanzania got sick in Kenya & buried in Uganda.
Heheheh omg yess
Eastern coast of east africa not tanzania to be specific. During those early years there was no country. Infact it was known as east africa before it was devided by europeans.
The original statement is "Kiswahili was born in Tanzania, died in Kenya, Buried in Uganda. "
@ceciliamuthungu424 .Kiswahili was born in Zanzibar, grew up and educated in Tanzania, got sick in Kenya, died in Eastern DRC, buried in Uganda.
@@willgremit Zanzibar is an island in Tanzania.
I have never heard the swahili word of jishongoe correct me if I'm
wrong
Check song sauti soul ft Ali kiba utajua kiswahili cha kenya so safi
Pure swahili sanifu is spoken in zanzibar Town only in East Africa...other part in East africa speak swahili depending on the region they where they are from and their understanding and swahili was influenced by Arabic, Portuguese and some of the bantu languages
Wakenya wengi wanaongea Kiswahili kibovu. Ni kwamba hawakijui vizuri, bado wanajifunza. Ukitaka kujifunza lugha hiyo vizuri, nenda Tanzania
Zege is concrete? Lord! There's a Swahili word for concrete?😁 Tanzanians do know a lot of Swahili. I got a grade A in my Secondary national examination in Swahili, but I don't get half of what's in Tanzanian Swahili songs. I always wondered what they were about
Kiswahili has been their language of instruction in school for a long time. So naturally they would need a word for everything.
@@michael_saleh Yeah, I guess it goes without saying. I do admire their mastery of the language sometimes.
😂zege.... I don't know why it sounds kama ugonjwa fulani
@@bantuvoicemuchaik.k.7715 IKR! Or intercourse or something🤣
@@michael_saleh do they learn maths and science in kiswahili?
Zanzibaris have always criticised the Kiswahili that is spoken in mainland Tanzania (Tanganyika) and in fact as you travel inland (Mikoani) in Tanzania the dialects keeps changing just like in Kenya , even though Tanzanian government policy has ensured that Kiswahili is the main language of instruction in all levels of education.
Kenyan: Kama singe-come unge-do?
Tanzanian: Nisingelikuja ungefanya nini kakangu?
That's sheng' vs kiswahili
In Tanzania: Kama nisingekuja ungefanya nini?
Yes we do understand the songs as Kenyans. Kenyans know Kiswahili sanifu but we prefer the simplest words to quickly pass the message!!! However this is the part Tz people don’t like, Kiswahili was born in Kenya.
As a Kenyan, Tanzanian Swahili is really difficult. Ours is simple. When I listen to Tanzanian songs, I understand the message but some words used there seem not to exist. Anyway here in Kenya we use English right from Kindergarten
😂😂😂 yah I think for us it's easier because Swahili is what we speak 24/7
@@thatgirl_haju2509 Yes so true
@@thatgirl_haju2509 but for you I noticed that your English is so nice, you have probably not studied in Tanzania. You sound like you live abroad.
@@ItsFastNiQ no I studied in Tanzania all my life I am studying abroad now for my university thats it
@@ItsFastNiQ I did study in private school thou
Whats chips mayai now!!
I am Chinese working in construction field in Tanzania. I heard changamoto way too much
Hahaha I totally get it their is a lot of changamoto there
It’s so difficult to generalise tanzania and Kenya cause some people in Kenya do speak Swahili like Tanzanians like in coastal areas but also i do notice tanzania on average do speak more fluently. Idk if in Kenya we have more influence from tribal languages into Swahili or English but the differences are so interesting. Also Kenyans struggle with r and l and it’s not because native languages don’t have r and l they do but they are often used interchangeably
Not all Kenyans have struggle with l and r,, mostly central Bantus
@@imani3975 yes i know im kenyan too, youre right its mainly bantu languages
Tanzania are the worst when it comes to R and L
Both Kenya coast and Tanzania coast speak more or less the same Kiswahili. Also both countries as travel inland/; upcountry or Mikoani as Tanzanians call it , the Kiswahili dialect and pronunciations / accent keep changing among various tribes
I am surprised that our Kenyan lady is not aware that Kiswahili at the Kenya coast is more or less the same as that of coastal Tanzania. The phrases that she is attributing to Tanzanian Kiswahili are normal phrases used in Mombasa.
Kenyan here 😅. So, I'm still stuck at their academic Swahili is bomb. That's it, it must be physically painful being in a Tanzanian school. Fun fact... Tanzanian authors think their Kenyan counterparts make up unnecessary vocabularies which is weird because normal readers of said works rarely understand most of the vocabularies. Most Kenyans would rather listen to the radio or watch the 7 pm news bulletin which are primarily done in Swahili. The question is on the fluency or rather the Tanzanian rigidity to fluency which the Kenyan speaker lacks. Say the r and l phenomenona, it exists in kenyan Swahili in Bantu speakers like the Kisii. In Kenya it's rare so it's easy to spot, but since it is relatively broad in Tanzania it kind of dissolves into a norm.
😂😂😂 it is very painful
I heard "my name is Hydra" and was ready to call Captain America, lol. I swear my brain scrambles what people say.
Sasa nyinyi mnajadili kiswahili au mnajadili kiingereza? Naomba mnijibu
Yes we do using the word mkwanja
Fusha in Arabic means clear/proper. So it could be similar in Swahili.
Sister Halima looks awesome, uuui moto kama pasi
Mkwanja is a swahili slang for money. We use it , not that much nowadays but back in the days we were using it often.
Oww ok where are you from then
@@thatgirl_haju2509 I'm from Arusha. But I'm currently based in Dar
Or mawe 😂
A lot of people mistakenly tend to compare Dar es Salaam Kiswahili with Nairobi Kiswahili and the call them as Tanzania Kiswahili and Kenya Kiswahili. It is important to understand that Nairobi is inland Kenya and the quality of Kiswahili Nairobi and upcountry is poor. It will be fair to compare Dar es Salaam Kiswahili with Mombasa Kiswahili both cities of which are coastal. Kiswahili has oriented from all along the coastline of East Africa from Kismayo on Kenya-Somalia border to Kilwa in southern Tanzania.
WtHat. Does. Mani. Mean?
Kenyans too don’t often use ‘matata’, they rather say, poa (I am cool). And jambo is often ‘sasa or mambo.’ Additionally, Kenya Swahili depends on regions and an individual. The hakuna matata phrase became famous through a Kenyan coastal group Them Mushrooms song Jambo Bwana. The ‘r’ problem has to do with the influence of mother tongue. Some Kenyans too have such problem, also for English.
The r & l 'problem' is bigger in Tanzania than Kenya.
@@michael_saleh I agree
In Kenya we are also taught the nisinge asinge but we would not use it in a normal day conversation because it will sound weird
😂😂😂 ok yah I understand that
Mkwanja is a popular slang used in Tanzania which means money.
Kiswahili is not a stable language (grows everyday) with many dialects (lahaja). The three main dialects being "Kiunguja"(Zanzibar & most parts of mainland TZ), "Kimvita"(Mombasa & south coast Kenya) and "Kiamu"(Lamu Archipelago), and is inappropriate to point that a certain dialect is correct than the other.
Kiswahili we learn in schools here in Kenya is "lahaja ya kiunguja" (which was selected by the British colonial regime to standardize Kiswahili in East Africa). It is very different to other dialects spoken by Kenyan coast people in terms of words pronounciation and connotations, e.g. "Lahaja ya Kimvita" spoken by people from Mombasa; they tend to use "t" instead of "ch", for example, they say "tumbi instead of "chumvi", "tungu" instead of "chungu" etc.
Lahaja ya Kiamu is the most difficult to understand of them all even people from Mombasa and other south coast places say they don't sometimes understand what their fellows are saying.
I don't think using a single dialect as reference to test eloquence in a language is proper. I mean, you can not use British English to test an American's knowledge of the language because they have their own dialect.
And by the way, they could have used "lahaja ya Kingozi" or just "kingozi"(the origin of Kiswahili) to standardize Kiswahili if they had to.
Every language has room to grow we discover that everyday meaning there is a need for new words
@@thatgirl_haju2509 That's true
How true. Grew up on Mombasa island and will confirm that the Waswahili there use;
"dh" in place of "nj".
You will hear "ndhoo huku" for "njoo huku"
"Th" for "ch". Less often though, the sound "t" at times take the "th" sound.
WAMVITA: "Anshinda hapa mthana kuthwa!"
Note instead of "ame", you will hear "an'".
WAUNGUJA: "Ameshinda hapa mchana kutwa!"
But the Mvita dialect is slowly dying, Kiunguja is the standard version.