John Landis on BATTLE FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ม.ค. 2014
- Last and least of the Apes series tries to bring the story full circle but suffers from tv-style production values and haphazard last-minute re-cutting‚ to reduce the‚ violence‚ and‚ secure a PG rating. The uncut version is now available on Blu-Ray.
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I get very offended when people put down this film, for it is without a doubt the very finest of all the PLANET OF THE APES films that were shot in somebody's backyard.
I agree.I have a BFTPOTA FB page
It's a pity that they skimped on the budget, as the timeline and lore concepts were quite well developed, which would have made a good movie if they made an effort.
That said, the imagery of the ruined city was still extremely effective and haunting, and indicates what might have been if properly funded.
I enjoyed all 5 Planet Of The Apes Movies. If you like a movie, it doesn't matter what someone else says.
Agreed. I’ve learned not to listen to other people’s negative comments about a movie or a song. It’s all subjective anyway. I feel Battle is a good film under the circumstances in which was produced.
Gosh, local tv Channel 5 (NYC) played every Apes film every Saturday afternoon for a year once in the early 1980s, completely out of order, so I never knew which numerical sequel I was watching, and I honestly didn't think it mattered. I was age 9 or 10 at the time and it was just background noise for me as I read my comics or cleaned my room. I never knew what the heck was going on, but I loved the original first film.
1:11 “you take the money, kid” 😂😂😂
I laughed out loud when Landis introduced himself as Marie Dressler! Film buffs know her as the star of the very first feature length comedy film "Tillie's Punctured Romance" (1914), made by Mack Sennett and also starring a young Charles Chaplin. I love that Landis does these weird false intros of himself. This one was a particularly bizarre non sequitur that just tickled me for no good reason. :)
Me too, I am a fan of Marie Dressler.
And, "Dinner At Eight" shortly before her death.
"It's a bad movie!" No it's not. It's really limited by a budget but honestly I'd take this one over Beneath any day of the week. They had a lot of good intentions/ideas here that worked well and some that failed. However it wasn't fully their fault as Fox had grown so cheap they barely gave them any money. They had to make the movie on scraps and it shows especially in the battle scene itself as that same treehouse that got blown up was used a ton in different angles. Thompson was smart that way. There's really some fun stuff here: McDowell's awesome as always and added dignity to the movie, Paul Williams is a hoot as the smartalecy Virgil, Ayers is fun in the 3 scenes he got, the arc with the kid was just sad and well done, and the real star of the movie was Akins as Aldo.. he's freaking hilarious and fun to watch every time he shows up. I watched this on Easter Sunday for a kick and had a ball with it.. once you get over the limited budget it's a fun ride. Dawn of the Planet of the Apes did this movie's idea more fully thankfully but this one's still fun.
There will be another "Apes" film coming out in May of next year called "Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes." A lot of the shots in the trailer remind me of "Battle", only done with a bigger budget. Here is the link to the trailer: th-cam.com/video/NQ_HvTBaFoo/w-d-xo.html Enjoy!
I saw the film as a kid( 9 or 10). I liked it at the time. Like all sequels it was trying to cash in or out, on the series. The studio's in my mind have not changed much. But, the Ape series each film had less and less budgets. But, still like this film for the memories of going to the pictures on a Saturday afternoon.
Oh man John Landis you have brought us some of the best movies and the most famous music video ever Thiller . Thank you
Weird that this is considered a bad film. Low budget doesn’t mean “terrible film”
I don't think that's what he's saying.
Just watched this again. I thought it was a pretty good movie but I'm a huge fan of Roddy McDowell and John Huston. I though Paul Williams did a great job as well. Roddy McDowell by himself was enough to carry the film for me.
The exact same treehouse gets blown up at least ten times in this movie.
Well, the director J. Lee Thompson shot the same prop at multiple camera angles in order to make it look like more than one treehouse.
Yeah I know. It was just OTT over the top in this movie though.
One of my fave movies is "The Hill" starring Sean Connery. You don't need a big budget but more like a really well written script and great acting.
Excellent movie.
Rise was a reinterpretation of Conquest, and Dawn is a reinterpretation of Battle.
Both reboot movies are superior to their original counterparts.
@@connorbrennan4233 yeah Iike how the Apes act like humans in the original.
There will be another "Apes" film coming out in late May of next year. It will be called "Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes". The trailer has scenes that are reminiscent of "Battle". Here is the link to the trailer for the film: th-cam.com/video/NQ_HvTBaFoo/w-d-xo.html Enjoy!
I agree with Chris Smith, it just isn't very bad. At the very least, Severn Darden makes it entertaining, but a lot of other things too.
The Movie Poster (Gorilla Soldier about to throw an Army Soldier over his head)is Ape Awesome!🦍😅
I heard that originally Roddy McDowell was looking forward to doing this picture because originally it was going to be significantly darker and would have the Ceasar character becoming a power hungry tyrant, but when the budget was cut everybody just decided to phone it in, and they made Ceasar a total pussy.
I actually liked the Ceasar character in this - he was tough when needed but he never resorted to the human's level of "you killed us so we kill you" violence, which I thought was a main point in the film.
If he had started killing off humans here and there, I think he would have lost me in this film...
Michael O'Hare Report has it the ted post died before he finished the script. His darker ending was rewritten to a half baked question mark.
acholl980 ted post was the director of beneath the planet of the apes, and he died just a few years ago at the age of 95.
I so wish they would have evolved Ceasar's character more in "Conquest" before his original speech at the end. Then follow on to the originally intended arch because he would have made one hell of a tyrannical leader. It would have made so much sense to have him fight with Aldo if his ego felt threatened on top of craving absolute control. He should have been the complete juxtaposition of his parents.
Actually, despite the budget constraints, I think this movie is a good ending to the original series. It shows the apes and humans perhaps changing the future for the better, or maybe not.
Paul Williams played a very likeable character in the film. This movie still had it's bright spots as we learned that apes and human would live together as friends all thanks to Caesar bringing that mindset and changing history. The final scene is also very sad many say.
It was a well-intentioned film. I have no problem with it.
Well-intentioned, sure. But execution is what matters in the end.
It's not a "bad" movie. It perhaps could have been bigger and more epic considering the implication of its title. But it is a good film.
People usually consider this or Beneath the worst of the original series. What gives Beneath the advantage for me is that it at least has most of the original cast, General Ursus, it has a more epic feel, the climax is one of the most unforgettable in sci-fi cinema, and it has more ambitious ideas.
I wish to grow old like him: brilliant and funny.
I wonder how J. Lee Thompson felt during his latter day 80's Cannon Films -Bronson period. I think I saw a relative-maybe his son-listed on the credits so maybe he did them to get his son established? And of course the money.
Don't say "today". It's now. It'll always be now.
2:38 I didn't know dummies moved their arms like real human beings. I think the only dummy here is Landis.
I was Such a Planet of the Apes crazed Kid. I Loved the 1th 3th and 4th Planet of the Ape Movies. 2 was Bad but this one even as a Kid I knew how bad it was. This Movie really Stinks.
I disagree. I think it to be an awesome flick.
2:08 looks like data!
J. Lee Thompson also directed the original CAPE FEAR.
Totally disagree that the is a bad film. The budgetary constraints aside it is still very good. I think it's better than Beneath. I saw this at the drive-in in the 70's and went ,well, ape over it, begging my parents to take me again. After behaving like a brat they caved. Not my proudest moment but it achieved the objective. The confrontation between Caesar and Aldo is still pretty intense. Mr. Landis is alone in his opinion.
and he keeps repeating it.
Last, and worst. And, I am a 'Planet' fan - too much mishmash, missed huge opportunity to be a wild action movie. Saw when I was a kid, after 'Conquest' could not hold a candle, and absolutely no sympathy for the 'mutants'. But, as I recall, it did have a foreshadowing of the use of laserdisc and DVD technology - so, there you go.
"secure a PG rating"? No, it didn't It was rated G! Conquest was the only PG movie of the original 5 films!
disagree the tim burton 2001 bs is worse!
love John, but this wasn't terrible. The Stupids, now THAT was terrible.
I loved the Planet of the Apes saga (and still do) but was so disappointed with this. It plays out like an episode from the TV show. A war between the Apes and the Human factions sounded so good but all we got was about 20 men in a bus, a motorbike and a couple of jeeps up against about 20 guys in badly fitting ape suits!!! Roddy McDowall and Claude Akins made this barely tolerable but it was a sad end to the Apes story that should have been a spectacular, showing the rise of the apes and how they subjugated mankind. I had no idea though that there is an uncut version of this movie!! Is it available in the UK?
On the Blu-Ray, there is an extended version of the film. If you're watching the series and want to end on a bang, skip Battle and finish with Conquest. Be sure to watch the original cut with the original ending, though.
Connor Brennan
Yep, bought the Blu-Ray set of the original 5 movies. Even with the film being extended, it still aint much!! So yea, I'm going with the superior original cut of Conquest as the true ending to the ape saga, much more violent and such a dark climax, so much better than the cinema release's badly edited upbeat ending.
Paul Williams had a great career, but as a singer, not an actor.
Landis is the worst
Personally, I was NOT impressed with "Battle for the Planet of the Apes" because of a substandard plot and a limited budget. I agreed at first that it was going to be a movie about some kind of new destiny for both the apes and humans. In other words, the movie was going to be somewhat family-friendly like the first three "Apes" films. But after what happened with "Conquest of the Planet of the Apes" where that movie had just about having scared some of the audiences because of the extreme violence, the filmmakers had decided to go back to the family-friendly approach with "Battle." But unfortunately, "Battle" was a disappointment. If the movie would have been remade, perhaps with a much better screenplay and with a bigger budget, maybe the remake would have turned out better. Then again, who knows?
They did remake it. It's called Dawn of the Planet of Apes.
@@connorbrennan4233 - Well, nice try, Connor! After all, I DID NOT like the so-called remake or reboot of "Battle for the Planet of the Apes" anyway!
@@robertpolanco1973 What didn't you like about Dawn?
@@connorbrennan4233 - Well, I guess I had a hard time seeing the reboot of "Dawn..." because it was a little different in terms of the CGI and the plot was a-ok to some degree. I mean like that's it on the issue.
@@robertpolanco1973 Try rewatching it sometime. There's a lot you probably missed.
there were tv movies with bigger budgets than this.
ooooh no....so embarrassing :(
The budget for this film was between $1.3 to $1.7 million.
Landis felt this film could use a helicopter decapitation or 3...
They Where going to do a movie with a much harder edge but they chickened out and did a rewrite of the script. This movie is cr*p
This was the worst of the series
Hey John Landis... Why do you trash movies like some half-assed movie critic? Oh, because that's the only job you can get. Want to know about another bad movie? It's called "Twilight Zone" and the producer was responsible for three people getting killed on the set.
***** Because HE IS a piece of shit, you freakin' dolt. I don't care what the trial said. He had a helicopter hover over THREE HUMAN BEINGS while firing off pyrotechnics all around it. It's his stupid, blatant disregard for safety that makes him GUILTY. The incident is relevant, because this son of a bitch should keep his damn mouth shut and stay out of the public limelight for the rest of his miserable existence. And as for the movie, it's an enjoyable little flick with apes and explosions. So, take that and smoke it, clam.
MasterJediDude
... and believe it or not, that segment is actually better because of that. The deaths caused a reshot for a much stronger ending for that segment and movie.
MasterJediDude Do YOU have harsh feelings toward John Landis as a man?
LOL. Why yes, I do. The only good thing that came out of this tragedy was Hollywood got a huge wake-up call and safety standards were slammed into place, especially protection for child-actors. Sure, accidents happen, but Landis' example should always be the go-to case to avoid when filming a movie. And he needs to slink away and never be seen again.
That is really NOT a good advice to give to John Landis. I am sure that he had regretted of what happened on the "Twilight Zone" movie set many years ago. John Landis has managed to move on and his career has never been better.
Landis is the worst.