The strange origin of Thwomp's voice (Nintendo music secrets)

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  • @giuliobros.123
    @giuliobros.123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +364

    EUUURGH!!!
    -Thwomp, 1996

    • @KaiserMazoku
      @KaiserMazoku หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      EUUURGH!!!

    • @giuliobros.123
      @giuliobros.123 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@KaiserMazoku EU- AEUURGH!!

    • @Mahshi123
      @Mahshi123 หลายเดือนก่อน

      EUUURGH!!
      AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA
      EEUEUEGGH!

    • @giuliobros.123
      @giuliobros.123 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mahshi123 HAHAHAHHAHAHAH, EEEEUUUUURGGGGGH

  • @harrisonallen651
    @harrisonallen651 หลายเดือนก่อน +252

    Charles Martinet really is Mel Blanc for Nintendo. Also it’s such a shame that those Mario Galaxy tracks were cut from the final releases.

    • @joshslater2426
      @joshslater2426 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      It genuinely bums me that he stepped down from the job, and that Nintendo immediately replaced him instead of just recycling his old voice effects for the rest time.

    • @StoneColdBowlingBall
      @StoneColdBowlingBall หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      The master got replaced by a dude who does a Mario impression weaker than most random people doing Mario impressions.

  • @mitchellrogers5130
    @mitchellrogers5130 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    This channel is such a comfort blanket for me. Your voice is so kind and expressive. And the content is actually always interesting.

  • @tourwillem
    @tourwillem 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +247

    As a kid playing Super Mario 64, I called thwomps "err blocks" because they are blocks that say "err" (real creative, I know).

    • @3ftninja132
      @3ftninja132 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      That's real cute. :D

    • @SgtByrd93
      @SgtByrd93 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      To be honest I literally spent 2 years playing pokemon silver and crystal as a child and every time I'd use the move strength I'd go "ffftt-anya"

    • @cerulity32k
      @cerulity32k หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      thats hilarious lmfao

    • @moosesues8887
      @moosesues8887 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I called them smashing stone

    • @callmecharlie4250
      @callmecharlie4250 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      my brother and I would call the red ghosts in luigi's mansion dark moon hamburger ghosts because their standout feature to me was their big meaty hands.

  • @Oceane1803
    @Oceane1803 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +317

    It's crazy how Charles Martinet is basically every important character in Mario 64 ^^' Well except Peach.

    • @blakdeth
      @blakdeth หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Now I'm curious if it's possible to mod other characters like Paarthurnax into the game. Realy max out the charles

    • @squatter8918
      @squatter8918 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Shoot, you gave me spoilers-

    • @BagOfMagicFood
      @BagOfMagicFood หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I keep thinking about how Super Mario Advance had only 2 voice actors.

    • @Mabra51
      @Mabra51 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm pretty sure he doesn't voice Yoshi or Daisy either.

    • @Oceane1803
      @Oceane1803 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Mabra51 Daisy isn't in Mario 64. And does Yoshi have sounds in Mario 64 ? Oh yeah he does have one but it's not an actual voice actor making that sound. It's just instruments.

  • @Chubby_Bub
    @Chubby_Bub หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    I always liked that "Voices of Yoshi's Staff" theme. It's a cool remix and it's comfy, the interview is insightful but laid-back and funny. Feels appropriate for Yoshi.

  • @Peepimus
    @Peepimus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +130

    14:04 - We still need the “Why doesn’t Wario sound like he used to?” video.!.!

    • @ThomasGameDocs
      @ThomasGameDocs  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

      I'm working on it, don't worry!!

    • @Peepimus
      @Peepimus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@ThomasGameDocs - Ooh…? 👀

    • @TheSizzleDash
      @TheSizzleDash หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@PeepimusWhy do you start comments with “-“? Atleast it’s not being ended with “-“.

    • @BagOfMagicFood
      @BagOfMagicFood หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Obey Wario, destroy Mario!

    • @charliekahn4205
      @charliekahn4205 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Was Wario's voice ever consistent? I remember them slowing it down for MKDS, and then randomly walking that back.

  • @iownu92
    @iownu92 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    There are a few songs in Mario Sunshine that are played in-universe. The ukulele player with the doot doot sisters, the merry-go-round in Pinna Park, and the band playing in the Fluff Festival in Pianta Village

    • @nxtvim2521
      @nxtvim2521 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i love diagetic Mario music

  • @Megapig9001
    @Megapig9001 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    Am happy to report that the Thwomp does have his grunt again. It’s used as his voice grunt in the TTYD remake

    • @tazawagaming1540
      @tazawagaming1540 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That doesn't mean it's gonna be used again, it's most likely only there simply because it was there in the original.

    • @SuprMikey64
      @SuprMikey64 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tazawagaming1540 it was in the new mario party lol

  • @C.D.G.1
    @C.D.G.1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Infinite: I’m not weak!!!
    A random Thwomp:

  • @Ryder-a-Blaze
    @Ryder-a-Blaze 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    Thwomp’s always sound so fed up with life

    • @linearprogramming837
      @linearprogramming837 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @tonightondadsphone5692my favorite activity ngl

  • @ingtao
    @ingtao 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +405

    Who’s here when the title still said “Thowmp?”

  • @courtneyhigh3442
    @courtneyhigh3442 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I was watching the video and it dawned on me how much editing must go into this and the time it must have taken to develop the style of these videos into a cohesive and coherent form. Thomas Game Docs must have an incredible set of skills and ability to take what was their ideas about these topics and turn them into this scripted form, with such an engaging narrative and clear visual themes. Not to mention getting any footage of games (whether it's playing the games themself, or sourcing footage online), deciding the music, creating the effects in whatever editing software, finding whatever music or visual assets needed. These videos are an incredible undertaking and it really dawned on me tonight. Thank you for your incredible work and passion. I hope you read the comments and that this is able to brighten your day Thomas Game Docs!

    • @lupper
      @lupper หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      youtube comment sections could really use more thoughtful and kind people like you :'D

  • @firstnamelastname4224
    @firstnamelastname4224 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    your content is honestly so comforting...

  • @TheMack625
    @TheMack625 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I had a suspicion that Thwomp was voiced by Charles Martinet for a little while now. After reading up on the Mario Wiki in 2021, I clicked on a link to a video featuring Mario's voice clips from Super Mario 64. Unfortunately, that video has since been removed.
    Seeing you confirm that Martinet indeed voiced Thwomp with an unused Mario grunt is lovely! By extension, that means that Charles Martinet also is the voice of Whomp.
    The harp music from Super Mario Galaxy is relaxing. I also dig the Yoshi's Story cast trivia.
    You do a great job on these videos of yours!

  • @virtualvenus
    @virtualvenus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    thomas graces us with yet another Nintendo music secrets video

  • @amyo
    @amyo หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    10:16 fun fact, the CD of Music to Pound the Ground to: Yoshi's Story Game Soundtrack is shaped like a yoshi head 🐸

  • @P-P-Panda
    @P-P-Panda หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    12:04 so cute 😭

    • @ellec7188
      @ellec7188 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I was like awwwww verbally out loud lmao

    • @lpstweetytv5242
      @lpstweetytv5242 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He sounded so sheepish when he said it too 🥺🥹

  • @skyshunts
    @skyshunts หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    It’s a shame that some of the music went unused because they sound beautiful

  • @AydenJosephRogers-m4i
    @AydenJosephRogers-m4i หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Hey @ThomasGameDocs, I hope you can upload more Nintendo music secrets and more videos. I am counting on you. 🙏😊❤

  • @shark_girl
    @shark_girl หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    0:24 You show half a second of Splatoon imagery and I'm hooked.

  • @Edboimck
    @Edboimck หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    lotsa awesome info on some of my favourite video game tracks that i never knew, great vid!

  • @projectsmash600
    @projectsmash600 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    TLDR: Charles Martinet

  • @CosmxOfficial
    @CosmxOfficial 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Hi thomas. Been a fan for a long time. Love your content. These are all very interesting. Keep up the good work girl

  • @denischen8196
    @denischen8196 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    4:25 This music even has drums that play when you ride Yoshi.

  • @Peace-AKA-Brare-K
    @Peace-AKA-Brare-K หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    14:38 I remember thinking Thwomp’s laugh in Mario Kart 64 kinda sounded like Ganondorf 🤔

  • @sprokenvansami3134
    @sprokenvansami3134 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This channel got questions I never ask or came in my mind and I never knew how much I wanted the answer for it! Amazing video again, Keep up the good work! You're amazing and a power star nonetheless!

  • @Super_Top_Secret_Area
    @Super_Top_Secret_Area 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Yeaa, I was waiting for a Thwomp episode

  • @G_come_Gelo
    @G_come_Gelo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Thowmpas Game Docs

  • @AfterTheFirstNever
    @AfterTheFirstNever หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love a new TGD upload!

  • @Mickeyds11
    @Mickeyds11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    hey, i gotta say, love the videos, keep it up, girl

  • @toolebukk
    @toolebukk หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Oh boy, some of those unused Galaxy tracks are amazing ❤

    • @DogsRNice
      @DogsRNice หลายเดือนก่อน

      What music from those games isn't amazing though

  • @_lunartemis
    @_lunartemis หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Based on how BGM_IN_BUBBLE was used, I think that it was only meant to be in the demo, since the bubble appeared to be how the demo level started.

  • @xcess7
    @xcess7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:15 it then dawned on me that that motif was also used for the Koopa Brothers in Paper Mario 64.
    Love your channel, Thomas!

  • @JDLupus
    @JDLupus หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kirkhope also used a similar jingle to the Donkey Kong intro for when you step on a skull square during Banjo Kazooie's Furnace Fun.

  • @orochirel
    @orochirel หลายเดือนก่อน

    And here I thought that it would be 15 minutes of just Thwomp investigation. Great video! I specially loved the ring fit one, I’m used hearing it and thought it was Nintendo gibberish

  • @Just_Shaun
    @Just_Shaun หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    8:30 - I have roughly 150 hours in ring fit adventure from what I can remember, played through all 69 worlds across the 3 playthroughs , yes it has 69 worlds haha. I always assumed the voices after the 4 muscle groups said something like, “I’m still alive, I am feeling fine~” or similar, which was very fitting when you’re on your 50th squat of the session.

  • @natvrgal
    @natvrgal หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    youre like the only channel on youtube I can go for facts about nintendo crap and actually find something I never heard before

  • @Flaretree
    @Flaretree 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    The "thowmp" is crazy

  • @marinedragon
    @marinedragon หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1:31 This reminds me of the OoT Water Temple theme. It's super peaceful!

  • @redstonecommander5190
    @redstonecommander5190 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    9:42 before it was called Yoshi story it was originally called Yoshi’s Island 64 but the Debs didn’t like that name and they’ve used Yoshi’s island before and I think that Yoshi’s Island 64 sound of the weird so instead they changed it to Yoshi”’s story

  • @KelanRooks
    @KelanRooks หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    13:25 Grunting sound effects.

  • @JackWiizard
    @JackWiizard หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your channel is gold, keep it up man!

  • @TomWoop
    @TomWoop 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I'm betting on a sample disk

    • @TomWoop
      @TomWoop 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I was very wrong

    • @filval387
      @filval387 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TomWoop Not entirely... I remember hearing somewhere that the sound designer actually got the laughing clip of Charles Martinet from a sample disk he voiced for before even knowing he'd be the voice of Mario.

    • @TomWoop
      @TomWoop หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@filval387 woah that's kind of crazy to think of

  • @catlover_3000
    @catlover_3000 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hey just wanted to say I love your videos! You are one of my favorite youtubers!

  • @JunkyardBashSteve
    @JunkyardBashSteve หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could have been real easy to cut this into three or more videos drip fed over a month or so, but to promise everything in the intro and deliver it all is very refreshing to see. Honest journalism is a rarity.

  • @jupahe6448
    @jupahe6448 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    13:24 I found that grunting sound while digging through the audio files of sm64ds and until today I never knew what it was and what it was for
    glad to have that mystery solved :)

  • @JuanPerez-zn2cc
    @JuanPerez-zn2cc หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video Thomas. You should do more Nintendo music secrets videos. Especially from the older Nintendo games like N64 or Snes era. Great stuff keep it up!

  • @Widde306
    @Widde306 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hi Thomas! I've been following you for almost three years and have watched all of your videos! I remember a video where you talked about how Taro Bando (I think it was him) got the sounds for the original Animal Crossing game by traveling into a forest and recording bugs and other nature sounds. I'm curious, what happened to that video?

  • @ado-
    @ado- หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow it's been a while since I've watched Thomas but she really does still say Mairio😂

  • @Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17
    @Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not Thomas putting Splatoon, Ring Fit and Yoshi back to back with some insane facts, three of my most liked Nintendo franchises/games.

  • @L0rdOfThePies
    @L0rdOfThePies หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Our girl is back!!! i agree with everyone saying your vids are comforting, wonder if its the nostalgia factor of digging back into childhood games?

  • @decisive-dolphin
    @decisive-dolphin หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video is my entire niche!!! So much unheard music, it's all so lovely

  • @omikot3088
    @omikot3088 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the yoshi story idea of putting voicelines over the main theme on a ost cd is so unique and funny, i love it :)

  • @talltan_younghandsome
    @talltan_younghandsome 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    YAY MORE MUSIC SECRETS!!! i love these :D

  • @Kipa12312
    @Kipa12312 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Those cut pieces from Galaxy 1 and 2 are so good
    The Galaxy 1 Bubble song reminds me of Final Fantasy Prelude theme and galaxy08 from Galaxy 2 sounds like something out of Dragon Quest

  • @NicecrownFromTheBeancrowns
    @NicecrownFromTheBeancrowns 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi Thomas game docs! I came as soon as I saw you posted

  • @dex1lsp
    @dex1lsp หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My personal favourite diegetic song by a fictional in-game band is "Jasmine" by The Hairy Lobsters (actually by Miles Gilderdale) in Broken Sword 5: The Serpent's Curse. LOL
    I love that "favourite food" bonus track on the Yoshi's Story soundtrack CD! Hajime Wakai is another one of the great Nintendo composers (and I agree, curry is where it's at). 🍛

  • @celestialfangirl
    @celestialfangirl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    These always make my day.

  • @redstonecommander5190
    @redstonecommander5190 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    9:16 now at first I thought hearing these four voices would mean 1234 in gibberish, but no, it’s part of your body

  • @Schollchen
    @Schollchen หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Can you make a Video about how Warios Voice has changed?

  • @kimbrolyy
    @kimbrolyy หลายเดือนก่อน

    That website is such a gem! Thank you for mentioning it. I discovered that Nintendogs had an afro item

  • @CrazyWario16
    @CrazyWario16 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love this videos, they are super chill and cool

  • @theotherlucas
    @theotherlucas 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    New Thomas Video :D

  • @HunterTheHero
    @HunterTheHero หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you please do a video on Marty the Thwomp next?

  • @anawesomedude4358
    @anawesomedude4358 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I find it so crazy that Charles Martinet ALSO voices Thwomps., i also find it so crazy that he was late to the interview and used up all the space on the recording thing and he got the job.

  • @TramiNguyen-oi3kp
    @TramiNguyen-oi3kp หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome video!

  • @6SamChat9
    @6SamChat9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh wow, I really want that Japanese YOSHI'S STORY CD soundtrack now

  • @Wyrenth
    @Wyrenth 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’m greatly amused by the thwomp comments with the option to translate into English. The result? “Thwomp.”
    Good job, Google Translate. 😂 Thanks.

  • @bradfjord
    @bradfjord หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yoshi's Staff's Voices is such an intimate, cozy track. Absolute Y2K time capsule. Totaka's the best to ever do it

  • @Lunatic-e8o
    @Lunatic-e8o 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’ve been a fan since I saw my uncle play back in 2013
    (I was 2 during that time) and now that I’m older I’m curious

    • @TheSizzleDash
      @TheSizzleDash หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Imagine being 13(ish).

    • @Lunatic-e8o
      @Lunatic-e8o หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheSizzleDash yep that’s me

  • @3pikness159
    @3pikness159 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i really hear “ser” not “sol” but still cool. this was the first video of yours i’ve seen and i really enjoyed it. will be watching more

  • @richscott2619
    @richscott2619 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Thwomp voice lines. She must like making Nintendo voice line videos.

  • @mrhalfsaid1389
    @mrhalfsaid1389 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love how Martinet continues to be the iconic voice of almost everything Mario

  • @Peepimus
    @Peepimus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Let’s get thwompin’.!.!

  • @rtyuik7
    @rtyuik7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    nice video, ThwompasGameDocs

  • @stevenkinsella3493
    @stevenkinsella3493 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Charles Martinet still never ceases being a legend in my book.

  • @simplywaffles518
    @simplywaffles518 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ive been watching you scince 2020 man your videos are the best

  • @eaglescout1984
    @eaglescout1984 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chronic Trigger also has a few unused songs which are in the game data and on the OST album. The most interesting one being "Singing Mountain", likely for an area of the same name that wasn't developed for the final game. It's a beautiful song (like most of CT's tracks) so it's a shame it was never used.

  • @jbsMUWcreations2089
    @jbsMUWcreations2089 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Next should be Goombas or Koopa Troopas voice

  • @PieJee1
    @PieJee1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Super mario galaxy 2 also had the flying mario music as unused. It is almost the same, except the soundfont used was different

    • @Ilikecats25
      @Ilikecats25 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Super mario galaxy 2 had flying mario and ice flower song in the DATA of the game. I don’t think that they used a soundfont though.

    • @PieJee1
      @PieJee1 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Ilikecats25 the songs are sequences, so it uses a sound font. Since the songs are unused and there are some used sequenced songs they changed the instruments and sound different from the original Galaxy game

    • @Ilikecats25
      @Ilikecats25 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PieJee1 yeah

  • @hichaelhyers
    @hichaelhyers หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love every one of those unused tracks!

  • @user-db3xu1hw7r
    @user-db3xu1hw7r หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    there was nothing strange about the origin, in fact I can't think of a less strange origin than it being Charles Martinet

  • @mikeykendr7202
    @mikeykendr7202 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I actually remember hearing the unused world 1 theme in Super Mario Galaxy 2 (out of context). It was either used in Super Mario 3D World as music for one of the worlds, or Mario for Scratch 4 as music for the level select. Probably the second one, though.

  • @bluetheta
    @bluetheta หลายเดือนก่อน

    In DK64 there is a mini-game that ACTUALLY play a version of the arcade Donkey Kong; so it probably inspired the Creepy Castle theme.

  • @nazokashii
    @nazokashii หลายเดือนก่อน

    So fascinating :D thank you so much for sharing

  • @Pixlewatchtoo
    @Pixlewatchtoo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thwomps have an iconic voice, do we finally get to know where it came from?

  • @22222Sandman22222
    @22222Sandman22222 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That early demo clip of Super Mario Galaxy came out 18 years ago. Just reminding you how old you are. It's fine. We all die someday. That day grows sooner and sooner.

  • @waeon
    @waeon หลายเดือนก่อน

    the amount of work Charles did for Nintendo is insane, I don't know if 10M is his actual net worth but he should be worth more

  • @onyxestrela
    @onyxestrela หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They sound like the cop from subway surfers

  • @mattm7220
    @mattm7220 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can't get over the US Yoshi's Story OST subtitle... "Music to Ground Pound to" 🤣

  • @TheRandom1212Channel
    @TheRandom1212Channel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i was waiting that video for 3 mouths!
    edit : 3 months

  • @shadowlink2000000009
    @shadowlink2000000009 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I never knew charles did the thowps that was one of my favorite sounds from mario 64

  • @alan-tairov
    @alan-tairov หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i always thought that the thwomps said "bummer"

  • @marscaleb
    @marscaleb หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can't believe that I never caught the Creepy Castle theme using the OG Donkey Kong jingle. I really should have figured that out on my own.

  • @ginomctony6773
    @ginomctony6773 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another audio thing that people would easily miss about yoshi, everyone knows he says his own name like a pokemon but in Japanese he's basically saying "alright!" Or "ok!"

  • @timeittells
    @timeittells หลายเดือนก่อน

    another great video

  • @HaroldGrant44
    @HaroldGrant44 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this channel

  • @goofyfish17
    @goofyfish17 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Worldmap01" reminds me a lot of the Footlight Lane theme from 3D World. Like it

    • @goofyfish17
      @goofyfish17 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also, it's funny how the Yoshi's Story one is technically the only Nintendo song with alcohol references (At least from what I know)

  • @chaos_crew766
    @chaos_crew766 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:30 Might have been planned to be used for Sky Station Galaxy