5 signs you have adhd & autism🌷
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- This video describes 5 main overlapping symptoms and signs between adhd and autism which may indicate that you could have both adhd and autism.
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Who thinks the DSM is outdated and is in need of some serious revisions with respect to Autism and ADHD especially in females?
Also NPD and cluster B personality disorders across the board needs to be reassessed imho.
Massively outdated! Not only that but potentially damaging, lots of examples but a glaring one in terms of ADHD is that big old ‘H’ that was reinserted into the previous ‘ADD (with or without hyperactivity)’, meaning that so many women who are ADHD-I (primarily inattentive) fly under the radar Or are actively dismissed. I’m personally ADHD-C (combined presentation) but have still been dismissed by psychiatrists. One subscribed to the extremely old-school view that it’s basically just ‘naughty little boys’ and told me that it was absolutely impossible that I had ADHD because 1) I was a woman (🤯🤦🏻♀️🤬) and 2) I had an education (the autism helped me in school, though I still struggled massively at uni - I realised about the ADHD 3 years ago - still not treated, and struggling- and the autism only this year - I’m 49) and had been a teacher. Yes, the most chaotic one ever, teaching English to foreign adults at university, then freelance in Spain (bliss!)…I kept my job at the former because I was apparently the students’ favourite teacher- they liked my, erm, ‘organic’ approach, the fact that I didn’t follow the textbook but used real-life and their personal needs as the subjects. They used to say that they always learnt most from my tangents (a word they learned early, haha). I could not do the admin to save my life and the students used to sort out collecting and filing papers at the end of class.
Oops, a tangent. Point being, I knew dinosaurs like this psychiatrist existed, but genuinely thought it was more of a thing of the past as I’d read about so many women previously being misdiagnosed and treated for bipolar for years before finding out it was ADHD - but that’s exactly what he said ‘clearly bipolar, no need for further discussion’. It was horrendous. This was on the NHS after a private diagnosis where the doctor disappeared on me, long story but horrendous.
And I’m now trying to get myself together to approach a centre who are up to speed with the Us psychiatrists in terms of understanding etc. I’ve gone downhill so much in the interim that the ADHD is stopping me getting help for ADHD 🙈). Speaking of psychiatrists in the US there are many who agree with your comment and are fighting to get the DSM changed…it’s heartening that they see it, though they admit it’d be a battle.
@@AriElfyn
Agreed,
The insertion of the H for boys led to a massive dismissal of
girls symptoms. They should include both ADD and ADHD as well as the seven documentated types according to Dr. Amen.
C-PTSD sorely needs to be codified into the DSM.
I had the DSM-4 in college. I let my daughter borrow it and I never got it back. Oh well. I had a PDR also. I want to get the most recent DSM-5. Thank you Dr. Sage. You have a wonderful day and stay safe.
I received my diagnoses for both 5 months ago. While I’m relieved to finally have some answers, I’m also overwhelmed because there isn’t much help for middle age women. Your videos have been helpful 🙏🏽
I don't really want the help, but it would be nice to connect the dots genetically in my family tree. A whopping $3000 to get tested, I think that is ridiculous. There must be other ways that are cheaper.
S I'm 64 and trying to figure out why I'm.not able to get friends while In past I had nompronlem with this
@@fireflyfree311s I'm. So tired of people who charge people for helpmwhen they're not well traumatized or autistic spectrum how can they pay
I do coaching and counselling at work and outside of work and never charge it's not fair if person already hadxacprobbthey shud not pay for treatment t.sonthamks for people who help for free this Lady above is great well done
@@annettewright467 ❤️ it’s tough!
I am interested in learning what ADHD + childhood trauma (CPTSD) have in common.
Doc Snipes, Patrick Teahan helped me too )
CPTSD can have effects that mimic ADHD. If you have both, it just makes it more pronounced.
I heard, no expert here, that CPTSD+ADHD mimics autism. CPTSD creates a hot mess. That is something that is bubbling vigorously in a pot on the stove for me as well.
The C in CPTSD is “Complex” where it is the result of chronic trauma. Childhood traumas that are prolonged can fall into CPTSD though
The fact that it is so tough for others to see the combination of autism and ADHD in us, is precisely why it often takes so long to diagnose us. Even my very obvious son didn’t get his second of the two diagnoses until years later.
Agreed
My wife was diagnosed with ADHD in her twenties and diagnosed with autism in her fifties, we have two sons with autism and two granddaughters with autism, one granddaughter diagnosed with ADHD. So glad you acknowledge that it runs in families. Before my father-in-law passed away my wife noticed that her dad would not look people in the eye, remembering that he was massive intelligent in math and very socially inept she believed he was as well.
Yep, this captures the experience pretty succinctly. Diagnosed ASD1 and ADHD-C, and this explains the overlap in a very relatable way!
To all those out there figuring themselves out, you're valid and doing great and I hope you find the answers you seek! 💙
I have ended jobs and not picked up the last paycheck. Never closed out banks accounts when I moved. Moved 17 times in 50 years. Been homeless twice. I've also traveled the country several times over. Veteran, and have constructed a life alone and isolated at 70. Never had a long term relationship over 3 years. I wish there was someone around here to talk to about this.
Try and do courses, join clubs, set Facebook groups up of local people who want to meet up ❤️
@@sarahfellows3074 Thanks. I don't do social media, or own a smart phone. I've had smart phones, But I never used them enough to justify the cost. I'm a Veteran. I'll run this across someone there. Thanks..
@@sarahfellows3074stfu, do NOT ‘help’ losers Pickmeesha 🚮🤡
Hi. You're an interesting person. I wish you the best.
There are others like you out there. All diagnosis does is create another customer for the pharmaceutical companies.
I'm sure you have good reasons for moving around. Everyone blames themselves. But how do you expect to adjust to the craziness of our culture without difficulties?
It gets lonely out there as we get older. Relationships or not.I do hope you find comfort somehow.
As a child, I had a fairly rigid routine imposed on me by both my parents and school, and I thrived in it. As I got older and needed to start managing that routine on my own, everything just fell apart.
My daughter
Time MGMT is a fundamental lifeskill that should be taught in schools or homeschooling IMHO. Much like budgeting, cooking and problem solving so our young people can make sound independent choices.
That’s interesting, and I can relate. Up until about age 11 I never had to worry about schedules because at my infant school everything was planned out for us and there was no homework. When I went to secondary school (high school) the entire day was organised into hour-long segments of specific subjects, and stayed that way all year; I only struggled with homework. Then I went to what we in the UK call Sixth Form College (an optional advanced education, usually between ages 16-18) and that’s when things started to fall apart for me, as I no longer had to attend every class and homework was always optional (though failure to do either would result in bad marks at the end of the two years, as it did for me). I managed to do quite well in one subject - philosophy - likely because I was genuinely interested in it, and that got me to university, but I’ve continued to suffer from problems with time organisation.
@@thefuturist8864 ya high school went ok for me, but that's because I was kinda smart. I could either not do there homework or just do it really quickly and still get fairly good marks. University was a bit harder but I joined a couple really good study groups that held me accountable. It's the real world that ate me alive.
I thank you so much for your videos. Without you I may have never been diagnosed with Autism and ADHD as well as CPTSD. Haven't been able to get much help yet but I finally know what's going on for me and why I am the way I am. Thank you. ❤
Hope you find this helpful and validating! Sorry for the band aid if it triggers you:). I stabbed my finger last night while cutting fruit and was too scared to take it off:). sending Sunday love!
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Can you make a video about struggles with finding direction in life? I feel that is a very neurodivergent related topic.
This video just confirmed what I've been thinking. I do jump between tasks. Because brain gets bored with one. Also when speaking I can easily start with one topic then move to next, third and then go back to the first. It does confuse other people easily.
Thank you so much for your passion and research! 🙏 I love this conversation! I am so grateful that you share your personal stories in your videos, it's precious. You are an inspiration, Dr. Kim 💗 Much love 🤲✨💖
so kind - thank you and i appreciate you being here with me!
I do a lot of switching & hyperfocus on what interests me. Procrastination is huge also . It’s a mess. Medication has been withdrawn for adhd lately also bc of lack of availability.
Yes me too - it's quite the challenge some days! The med thing is something I just don't understand....sending love and support!
Well explained. Now I feel comfortable ruling out also having ADHD after wondering recently.
really appreciate your authentic spirit
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Australia. Really need!
Yes, dr.sporessss I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
I wish they were readily available in my place.
Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac.
He's constantly talking about killing someone.
He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.
Is he on instagram?
Yes he is. dr.sporessss
Thanks so much for your work, it is incredibly illuminating!
Thanks Dr Kim. Dr Spicy says this is very helpful.
I really appreciate the work you are doing here. I was ADHD diagnosed in my early 40s and it was a revelation that created a lot of opportunity for healing and self awareness. Now I'm my mid fifties after much TH-cam etc research I convinced my therapist that autism testing felt warranted. She wasn't convinced but arranged it and I ended up testing very high for autism as well. I'm less than a year in already feeling so much more empowered and well regulated, using information I've collected from these videos here. Soooooooo thank you! I'd also like to add (as someone for whom design and lighting are clearly focal interests) that your lighting and makeup and wallpaper are looking beautiful here. I think for many of us well balanced, calm and attractive design can make a huge difference in our ability to stay focused on a video presentation!
This is the first of your videos I've seen, thank you very much for making it. I've come to realize I'm probably not just on the spectrum but ADD as well, you really helped me here to contextualize the similarities and differences in a way that will help me better communicate them and advocate for myself. Again, thanks so much, I'm about to deep dive into your videos!
Thank you. Things are very hard right now, and this and your video on autism/hsp have been so helpful. I'm so grateful.
Definitely not my first video on the subject or that has me thinking "yeah, that sounds like me", but absolutely helpful the way you broke everything down.
thanks for being a leader in the neurodiversity movement. hopefully with you as a guide, many therapists will be able to find out why they have an intense interest in human behavior. then they can "come home" to our fabulous community.
I loved the way you explain things.
Thank you so much!
I relate to this.
Hi Kim! You make really good videos and you talk about everything that I experience, it's so weird but also validating!
Thank you. This is very helpful.
You are helpful. I am exploring and identifying with both autism and ADHD. Wow.
Wonderful. Thank you. 🌺I'm 59 y/o and have not been diagnosed with what I strongly believe is Autism and ADHD. My daughter was diagnosed, as well as her son, with Autism. Looking back I believe my mom had this as well as her brothers, and mother. I was diagnosed with a variety of anxiety disorders, (among a few other diagnoses), which seem to all correlate to Autism/ADHD. I wish my Amygdala would settle down for one moment, hahaha!! I'm in perpetual fight or flight. Thank you, again. Much appreciation. 💗
Good luck. I’ve recently done a course in Emotional Freedom Technique, aka tapping. It’s great for calming the amygdala and reducing anxiety.
@@catlifechannel3886 Thank you. 😊I learned about EFT many years ago. I never thought to begin doing this technique again. Great advice. I really appreciate that. 😊
Thank you Dr. Sage. I was diagnosed with ADHD on my birthday basically last year in June or, within a few days actually. I have learned a bunch like we do and I have started to realize that I have autism aswell. I took the online test and scored 32 out of 50 at the Autism Association web page. The results said from 24 to 32 is " some Asbergers " as you probably know. I don't remember if I told you last week when you posted "13 signs you are not just highly sensitive and I recognize the description not only in myself but, also in my deceased mother and an adult child.
Thank you for sharing - did you take the AQ and other tests on embrace autism . com?
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I haven't yet. Is it online to ? I can see it now in myself and my sons were diagnosed and a grandson to. So, even though I had 130ish hrs completed at a University and 36 of those being in psychology I still thought that everything that I was experiencing was a response to childhood trauma and as I began to finally unravel this and see the difference plus I found out that our family has the Gene that is responsible for nuerodivergence. Finally, I put the rest of the puzzle together and yes I wish I would have known sooner. I am now 61 however, I feel blessed to have found a neurologist to back up my thoughts about me having ADHD and I have discussed autism some with her. As you know, the test is expensive. Thank you for your reply. I need to remember to wear my reading glasses because I cannot see my phone very well and it is very hard on my eyes.
I remember suggesting you to look into autism in the past on my other account. I also remember studying your channel as well as studying probably 6 to 7 other channels, obsessively hyper focusing on every single aspect on trauma.
I also remember constantly studying every single piece of information. I could 8 to 12 hours day and day out for over I’d say 6 to 5 years. Pretty sure if I did 8 to 12 hours every single day obsessively studying these topics and I at least spent probably half of the year of each of those years , I probably have at least 2 1/2 years consistently if I was to study every single waking day learning about stuff and psychology despite all that information still doesn’t change the fact I still have mind blindness. I’m just way more educated on the topics that I can tell you philosophy and psychology stuff that’s literally advanced, but then if you ask me about, football teams or history class I wouldn’t be able to tell you nothing heck I couldn’t even do algebra. I forgot all about math although I love it. I forgot about it. I don’t use it. I lose it and whatever special interest or topic it is that I’m obsessing about is the reservoir of memory Psychology constantly every single day I constantly analyze myself to try to figure out what’s going on with me and every single aspect and what you mean by from the bottom up learning for autism in your other video you talking about first principal thinking first principal, thinking is very much Something autistic people do well in I would be considered high functioning, but it doesn’t mean I don’t need support for me. It’s emotions emotions or complex feelings understanding what I’m feeling or even feeling that I’m feeling like sometimes I just don’t have feeling and it’s just my thoughts and head no emotions attached Doesn’t combination to have intelligence emotional intelligence. I have a high emotional cognitive empathy, but low and Affective empathy.
I do score lower than average on empathy, though masking on the Cat Q test, I scored extraordinarily high and for me I personally do not find this to be a good thing because I know the self damaging effects of masking your entire life and then when the mask finally starts to crumble because you can’t keep a mask on your face your entire life without having breakdowns and psychiatric damage to your brain because you’re technically traumatizing yourself I know we all mask and you may not feel that way at this moment but if you’re young, remember it doesn’t matter what other people think it might seem like it, but it’s a social construct just be yourself kids stop stressing. Stop worrying about if you look a certain way or act a certain way somebody likes you they like you they don’t like you screw them who cares. Don’t mask you in advertently damage your entire identity and you’ll have a low lack of self self-esteem. Don’t do it just remember who you are keep those who are kind and friends to you close and those who are not ignore them move forward.
Just remember people life is what you make it if you want to sit there and look at everything through brown shaded glasses seeing the world as shit you ain’t gonna get nowhere used to be that way always try to find that silver lining no matter how small the line is Try to find that one my new thing and focus on it. Just remember there’s more of us now than there were there are people out there who will understand just because most Neurotypical people don’t understand doesn’t mean they’re bad just means they’re uneducated. They wanna hear and learn to teach them, if they don’t wanna hear you move on ignore them don’t waste the time
I like 10 min long videos 😊 and this topic in particular
Dr. Sage, I have recently discovered your videos starting with the ones about attachment styles then onto the ones addressing BPD and its effects on parenting. I am a mom raising a 15-year-old daughter and I am struggling a lot trying to figure out how to Navigate it not only because of being a (single)mother of a teenage daughter; but also being a mother diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and disorganized attachment. My goal originally was to be the exact opposite of my parents and basically just be better in all aspects especially when it came to preparing her for the world around her and what to expect. However as I am finding out… you live what you know and you can only exhibit what you’ve been taught until you are able to see the behavior for what it is, learn more and do better. I watched your “borderline mothers and daughters” video thinking that you would talk about strategies to achieve success in that dynamic… and that’s not at all what it was. As Extremely difficult as it was to watch, I did anyway with the intent of learning what harm I might be causing my daughter that I could possibly be unaware of. Some of the traits you talked about exhibited by the mother with borderline are absolutely not present in my situation. I know this because I actively work to make sure that those traits are not present in the relationship with her and that healthy boundaries ALWAYS maintained. It seems like most of your videos focused on parenting (especially having to do with a borderline parent)focus more on villainizing that parent and how to heal from the trauma having inevitably developed after having this seemingly “evil” almost psychopathic, type of parent with BPD that apparently lacks all traces of empathy, which you describe in a lot of your videos. As I am trying to learn how to be the best mother I can be in spite of this disorder, which by the way I did not ask for… I would love to see a video from you that focused on strategies for the borderline parent specifically the “mom”. Moms that in fact are aware of their issues and helpful parenting strategies to overcome them. Understanding that we were once a child too with less than nurturing parents and now dealing with our own abandonment issues. The last thing I wanna do is to pass this dysfunction onto my child, further perpetuating the generational cycle; even though more often than not that is
exactly what ends up happening without professional help. I don’t want to harm my daughter psyche only for her to do the same thing to her kids and I’m trying to do everything in my power to ensure that does not happen.
Being mindful and course correction moving forward while being self accountable is my two scents 🕊️ cheers Sister
Tiffany, you are a darling!
It sounds to me that you are doing a good job with yoir motherong of your daughter.
Thankfully there are all kinds of TH-cam teachers out there who are helpful. There is one on Family systems (Bowen), another kindly woman, Roberta, who sadly passed recently but hopefully her messages are still out there. In the end she was supplemented with oxygen to help her breathe but she persisted for her followers. Roberta had a huge heart and gave her all. I found her very helpful as the mother of a daughter with BPD.
BEST WISHES!!
Thanks!
Really appreciate this, thanks. My whole family is autistic, but we suspect my wife and daughter may also be ADHD (me and my son definitely aren't). I'll talk about this with them, but I think this is supporting the hypothesis.
I was diagnosed with autism 2 years ago at age 56 but have always suspected I have ADHD as well
Thank you!
We love you, too!
Also, I don't mind videos by you that are "5 hours long" :)
Absolutely she's so gentile and her voice is so warm it hits certain parts of my brain in positive ways.
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Thank you so much! I don't take you or your time here for granted! I am happy my rambling is sometimes appreciated lol:)
oh i love hearing that - thank you so much!:)
@@spottedfawn639 and I still feel like I didn't explain or express myself well. It's a certain sensory stimulation
The best description is having Garfield and Olie inside your head at the same time
Thank you for you info. Ive been struggling with adhd my whole life but only diagnosed at 21. 46 now and with all the new info out there im realizing i likely have autism as well. Any info on who i should talk to for diagnosis? This is all so novel and strange.
I can't get bored. My mind entertains me. If you're boring me, sorry 😞 😅😂.
good video
My son has Asperger’s, my daughter has ADD. I tend to jump in socially, then fizzle out, freak out, or freeze. 🤔
I was diagnosed with Autism in 2019 when I was 31 as I knew I had many issues but didn't know what they were. It was only when I saw on TV, a man interviewing two teenagers who had autism that things clicked with me. When I watched that, I noticed how they acted and some of the things they said just parallel my life and how I acted sometimes. I didn't know at the time you could be tested for both so only got tested for Autism. I really think I have ADHD as well and have been waiting over a year to get an ADHD test so far. I have a cousin on my dads side with Autism and my dad and sister have Dyslexia so I am sure that is where I got my Autism from. My siter also thinks she might have traits of Autism or ADHD but has not gotten a test yet.
I don't stim but I do fidget and often find it hard to sit still. I have hyperfocus and can spend hours focused on something, especially my special interests, but other times I can't concentrate and find it hard to focus. I could be doing something but my mind will wander to something else and I'd lose focus, or I'd just stop what I am doing and stare into space and some time would pass and I wouldn't realise it. For this reason, I sometimes find it hard to finish tasks that don't have a deadline. I have also tried to learn to drive but due to my concentration being bad, I was unbale to do that well due to my mind starting to wander after a certain period of time through the lessons.
I also find it hard to sleep at normal hours of the night, but when I do get to sleep, I can sleep a full 7-8 hours. There are times when I feel a bit hyper when I don't have much energy at all.
I like to try new things, but when I do, rarely am I fully engaged with what I am doing and my mind will often wander and I'll start thinking of things like what I might do later on that day or I'll be thinking of a familiar project I'd like to be doing, rather than focusing on this new experience. This isn't something I like as I feel I need new experiences in my life sometimes.
I find it difficult in social situations often and find it hard to make small talk so I don't make and maintain friendships easily,. I also have Dyspraxia which I was diagnosed with when I was 12. One part of it is that I have Verbal Developmental Dyspraxia. This means I'll sometimes know what I want to say to someone, but sometimes find it physically hard to get the words out I want to say as this effects your mouth movements when you speak. I used to talk fast and mumble. I spent years learning to slow down and speak properly and rarely speak fast or mumble anymore, just mess up saying the odd word now and then.
I know I want to be in social situations and make and maintain friendships but sometimes when I am in a social situation, I often think that I'd rather be doing something on my own, but when I am on my own, I feel bad because I'd rather have social interaction. It's like a double edged sword for me.
I wonder what it is about both that make it so hard to make phone calls. My son and I are both diagnosed and I suspect my adult daughter... well no, I KNOW, but she's not formally diagnosed. Anyway all three of us really struggle with this. Both making and receiving. I am okay talking to a friend or family but I am not one to do the calling. But when it comes to making appointments or handling something that requires it, all three of us freeze up. I know my son has pretty severe auditory processing issues and I wonder if that's what it is, but we are just SO phobic about it at this point.
Same!
Oh, man... Phone calls are a nightmare! I need to take my ADHD meds before I am able to make a phone call
I have no idea what it is exactly, but it feels like I have to *pretend* being a normal human being while talking to people on the phone... it leaves me tired.
It is also true for social interactions with people around whom I don't feel comfortable, even some of the family friends.
Maybe the need to mask is what makes it exhausting, and then you tend to avoid it. I am diagnosed with ADHD, and my brother has Asperger's (he was diagnosed when it was not all ASD yet)
I have to watch again later😅. I got distracted by taking the quizes, then with the sudden need to see and pet my dog in the other room, also because my thoughts drifted off somewhere else while the video continued to play😅
What's wild is that my partner and I are both autistic and ADHD, yet mostly in different ways from one another. 😅
I've been told I'm on the autism spectrum, but don't have ADHD... I'm NOT impulsive, I don't procrastinate, I can regulate my emotions, I can focus and finish a project. I have been in recovery with 28 years sobriety so my addictions have a program to work. But I am a deep dive photographer and woodworker. I paint furniture and do art...it's my lifeline.
Congratulations on your sobriety milestones, keep up the amazing work. Sobriety has been a game changer for me, as I am diagnosed with adhd and asd, it has helped keep me on course
I only have ADHD and throughout the video, I kept wondering if the wallpaper in the background is from Graham & Brown 😅
Hello hello. I am diagnosed with ADHD and BPD, but BPD also has a lot of overlap with both ADHD and Autism. (Things like bad impulse control, stimming, ...). It would be great if you could make a video comparing the three. I think about getting evaluated for ASD but want to learn more about the factors that BPD may have.
I am also just in my perimenopause, and that screws with my ADHD symptoms on a scale I have never experienced before. ADHD and Perimenopause would maybe also an interesting topic.
I had an ADHd Diagnosis back in 2012. Oddly I managed it very well with set routines. Then when I started working in a large workforce, I started to realise that I definitely have social problems too. After 3 months of therapy with a psychologist provided by work, she says I most likely have autism too. Her report was incredibly helpful and insightful. Perseverance being a key word. I have experienced trauma and emotional neglect as a child. But the perseverating has been holding me back. I would get quite angry with the therapist for not letting me talk about my traumas on repeat. Now I can see how that's an autistic trait not only trauma. Just signed up for emdr. I'm obsessed with dirt bikes at the moment, i will know every single detail of the cbr300l before i buy it next year 😂
Emdr changed/ saved my life. It us a game changer and such an amazing therapy. I highly recommend it.
All the best
@paihobbes8680 That's really good to know, thank you 😊
I have ADHD. Many of the points you brought up make me wonder if I might also have autism. I have one brother with ADHD and another with severe autism.
I was diagnosed with ADHD at the age of 7. Now I'm in my mid 30s and I if AuDHD very interesting. I have watched hours on hours of videos on this topic in the past weeks. And I think I might have autistic traits but way below any diagnostic level. But it helps we explain a few of my quirks.
Well I have taken both autism tests before, retook them and still scored high in the range to have autism. But the ADHD tests were new, took those...and drumroll😅 I am in the range for ADHD too😅.
Honestly I was just talking to my mom about the possiblity that she has ADHD as I have been suspecting I could have both as one or the other alone don't match up with all my issues I have been dealing with all my life. Issues that just seem more pronounced to me over the last year and some since my work environment has changed. The amount of change happening all the time, how noisey and busy it is... its all causing my issues to be more prominent on a day-to-day basis that I just couldn't ignore them anymore, or at least try and convince myself they were normal anymore😅.
Ive got Asperger's syndrome dislexia borderline personality disorder bi-polar and skitzophrenia with deep depression . My comand centre's ( my brain) fried and broken
I was diagnosed with ASD/NVLD and then 4 years later, ADD
I know I’m diagnosed with ADHD combined type as well as dyslexia, audio processing disorder, I’m suspected of high functioning autism from my doctor. I’m high functioning two autistic and most likely ADHD boys suspect my father‘s high functioning autistic suspect my grandmother is also a little bit lower functioning, but still high functioning autistic. and my sister is suspected of high functioning, autism and diagnosed with ADHD and for the most important my spouse is also most likely ADHD and autistic.
In the process of wanting to get a full diagnosis for autism so that at least I have the paper ADHD medication is a godsend.
But it actually makes me sad when I take the ADHD medicine because I realize how much better I am on ADHD medicine realizing how severely my deficits are with concentration when it comes to things I just are not interested in. If I’m interested in something I could obsess about it like I did for learning psychology I’m self taught on everything. I know it’s always things that are particular special interest for me bio psychology, philosophy, biology, sociology, ADHD, autism, narcissism, BPD psychopathy, sociopathy, studying micro expressions, double speech underline expressions of emotions, contextual information underneath a conversation, pretty much studied psychology, super hard and philosophy, stoicism, and epicurism, and literally everything you said in the video absolutely fit all of the five things but one thing that fits perfectly is the whole you need similarity but you need something that’s still the same that would be psychology for me. I can jump around all different types of psychology, topics philosophy, topics ultimately needs to be in those areas unless it’s something more along the line to spatial recognition stuff that’s interesting thinking about underground systems, tunnels bugs like for my spouse I noticed every single little detail
Am getting tested for both .
Wow well I guess I have both now that I'm learning about both of them more I noticed lots of things and don't beat myself up about so much anymore but I still hate when I get mad cause my child doesn't listen at times cause it's really hard for me and I don't think others understand how hard it is every day for a person when suffering with these things cause as I'm learning about it I'm almost learning how I handle stress when it comes to my child not respecting what I ask of her because it's like 10 times of me saying it to her calm it's much more stressful when suffering with adhd and autism and a single mother with the whole raising her is up too me and I'm the only one trying to make her understand right from wrong sometimes I just feel like we are not a team and we are just working against each other it's hard when you need your 5 minutes too regulate but your child just won't let you get it instead of destressing you get more stressed I just wish I had the help I need so it won't be so hard on me it might be easy for normal people but not for me all I can't do is keep trying the best way I can I'm just figuring things out as I go I wasn't shown any of these things no one is perfect we all fall short we just need too be easier on ourselves and not worry about what outside world has too say about how your doing things we are doing the best we can as we go yes I could do things differently at times but how are we gonna leave if we don't mess up from time to time
I guess society has not figured out a lot of learning disabilities could be because of ADHD and autism. And because they are so intertwined, i'm surprised they have not melded them together into one yet, and make it just one diagnosis, the way it is looking genetically. I'm learning about my family as well, and autism/ADHD runs through my kids and grandkids, and figuring out I have it.....probably my grandmother on my dad's side, even my dad, i'm guessing. it goes on and on and on.
I am 57 and have combined presentations of ADHD. Was diagnosed at 3 years in 1970. Does it matter at this point and my age if I seek an Autism diagnosis at my age? Talking to my psych on Wed. I don't want to be around people unless I have to like my fam or work. Only one friend I like t hang out with. But even that is. Limited.
I do not take meds for this as they don't work. But my anxiety med I put myself on has been life changing.
Do I really need to have a concrete diagnosis. My oldest son is ASD.
Two years ago for me an ASD diagnosis I am 61
On Occation , I fell I may have PTSD + Turret's Syndrome .
I am the youngest of my other 2 siblings. The oldest and I being under the transgender umbrella. I believe I received the first diagnosis of ADHD between my siblings and I, when I was about 21. Then the oldest got diagnosed with ADHD and little later, and the middle child recently got a diagnosis that he is both ADHD and ASD. My oldest sibling and I have previously thought that we were on the autism spectrum as well, and thought the diagnosis of our brother with both confirmed our suspicion. Our parents are not diagnosed with anything other than our father having bipolar depressive disorder. But other family members have ADHD as well as others with some traits of autism. I mean almost every guy on my dads side is a car guy/engine guy, my grandpa having a strong love for engines and had a lawnmower shop he ran and worked repairing them.
Also, I’ve been wondering the connection between transgender/nonbinary people and the autism spectrum. I’m trying to think of a different or better way to say it, like gender expression, or gender diversity.
Everybody has autism and ADHD these days. Is anybody not getting a diagnosis? I saw a psychiatrist and walked out with both conditions. I wasn't after a diagnosis.
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Yep, i have both! what do i do? how do i get help? my family is throwing me out!
i 'm scared! i am 74. i have a graduate degree ,so i'm not an idiot but all these symptoms have amplified with age and it has all led to rejection and abandonment. Can not stand living with these traits nor how my family acts enraged and rejecting. They say they wish me dead. Where can i go for help and get support for living or dying? I am exhausted living with these cognitive and behavioral disorders and when you are my age your family is just as fed up. I don't blame them. I am as frustrated as they are. So, is going to sleep permantlly the best solution all around? Seems like the American government doesn't even give a damn about us elderly suffering with these conditions. I'm not talking about dementia!
What do aging women do who have add/autism to find adequate and respectful help
I truly believe my son has ADHD/Autism. he was exposed to Brethine in utero to stop premature labor. We had him tested last year at age 22 for autism and the diagnosis came back ADHD. I really believe he is autistic and may qualify for disability. How do I get him the right help?
I was diagnosed with adhd at age 3 in 1970. Was put on Ritalin and felt.like a zombie. My parents took me off of Rit at i think age 12. Ive been without ever since. Cant function on any adhd meds. I dont feel normal. Lol. How do i take a test to see if i have Autism as well. My oldest son is on the spectrum. Can you help me with that info?
while i wouldn't solely diagnose using it - the website embrace autism . com is a great place to start
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I score fairly high on online autism tests. As a toddler I'd rock and bang my head off cupboards, walls, doors, appliances and furniture. My mother gloatingly told me about this when I was a teen and also her 'cure' for my very annoying habit. She'd kick my bottom so I'd wop my head enough to be dazed. To this day I love to rock and I'm pretty sure heaven has spinning chairs or I don't want to go. ~ I'm kidding but also serious. ~ I struggle to learn. Since the advent of yt I can turn the speed down on videos and not look at faces while I listen. Doing this I can actually understand what people are saying without re-listening several times. When I was young school was very challenging but I wanted to learn. It just took me so much more time than everyone else. 1 hour of homework for my peers was 2 or 3 hours for me. I have difficulty talking or listening to people while looking at their face, another annoying habit my mother made me aware of when I was a teen. I didn't realize I did that and now I try my best to look at faces. There are also a few other indicators in my behavior as well. I was diagnosed with adhd-i and ptsd in my 40s. I'll be 60 soon. Is there any reason for someone my age to be formally diagnosed if I am ASD? Or would it just be for personal information?
If I may say so, personal. I've been diagnosed with both last year at 64. Doctors don't do nothing for autism. They have some therapy for adhd and such. Almost all my professional life, I have worked with autistic children, not knowing I'm one of them, but understanding them perfectly.
After my diagnosis, I went through all the emotions, from anger through despair, to finally understanding (with still anger at how rude and inconsiderate people are, including my offsprings, unfortunately). Now I am trying to take everything slower and make sure I am OK with the tasks and changes. I look inwards and listen to my body and soul. I was considered selfish by one of my children recently. I started to be selfish after looking deeply into the invective, as I figured I have to earn it. So yes, it is good to know for yourself, it helped me to stop blaming myself for all my failures, as now I understand that there was no way I could avoid them, but they happened despite of my efforts. My advice would be to check all the online questionnaires because they are really good and they will give you a good grasp. Unless you can get the diagnosis for free. I payed thousands but I am glad. There was no other way for 4 of my closest to change ever so slightly their view and opinion of me. The rest still treats me badly. Got to get used to it.
Good luck!
Yes, it certainly sounds like you have a number of autistic traits - and given our lack of understanding the presentation in women and girls it makes sense you would get exactly adhd and ptsd - i wouldn't be surprised if you had also received a diagnosis of bpd (given the recent research i've seen). It seems unlikely it would benefit you unless you were going to "attempt" to receive services..however.....it has changed the course of my life and my internal (harsh) narrative, my self compassion about "why am I like this?" and also justified why I am an a-hole sometimes - lol - when it comes to my environment, challenges, as much as my strengths. All that to say, if you feel like it can help improve your life, and many autistics have felt like an official diagnosis helped this - then it also makes sense. Lastly, given your age, and i am just 4 years behind you, so i say with love, that if we were younger it might make a bigger difference or even have negative consequences- because it seems some places deny you things (adoption, military service) in some places. Sending love today!
@@lechini4827 Thank you for sharing:). You are not alone in this experience and yes, that is what I said as well. Sending support and well being today!
@@lechini4827 I'm very sorry to hear about some of your family's lack of acceptance. If they would graciously accept your ASD diagnosis it might cause them to re-evaluate their past and present experiences with you. Maybe they need more information about your challenges or information about adjusting their expectations. Sadly too few people are willing to take the time to do this. I hope they come around and learn to be supportive of you. If I'm hearing you correctly a diagnosis would be for personal acceptance and adjusted coping strategies. That's pretty much where I'm at now. Thank you for responding. I hope you have a wonderful and peaceful day. 🌹
@@DrKimSage Omgosh the a //h ole comment had me roling! Lmfo Right! That's me too. I just say the truth and people get so bent out of shape. I don't fully get it. But I do try I really really try because I don't want to hurt anyone. I just ... don't get what they get or I don't get the dance. It's beyond me. I'm trying. *sigh* Being a shut-in for the past few years helps (or hurts, or helps, not sure). Alone, not lonely, well sometimes a smidgen lonely but always definitely at peace. :) Thank you for the love and sincerely thank you for all the good information you're helping me and all of us with. 🎯🤗🌹❤
whelp I'm pretty sure I have autism along with my adhd because I had a meltdown while listening to this because I wanted to find out what the 2 seconds of music is (the name of the song so I can listen to the whole thing). I took music history classes and remember learning about the song being a ballet warm up composition written by a french romantic composer, but the rabbit hole google led me down with no positive results made me start melting down, followed by playing the 2 seconds of music at the beginning of this vid to shazam and shazam had no idea what it was. Yeah I lose my mind when I want to find something simple and it's impossible to access because nothing knows what I'm talking about even when I'm being specific. Thanks for driving me insane again technology! Good video tho.
edit- it's gymnopedie #1 by erik satie if anyone is wondering like me lol. I kind of just randomly remembered the name post meltdown, no thanks to google/shazam/anything.
Ant stop focusing on the bandaid on your finger. 👀I need to remove the flap. ✂️
If boredom is a torture, could it be ADHD?
I hope more clinicians recognise how these present in adult women because i don't think I'll ever be properly assessed 😂
It might be unrelated but I just wanna ask a question, do you think we can apply things we know about female autism/adhd/etc to trans girls. Im asking this because im a 17 year old trans girl and i oftentimes relate to videos about female autism for example but i dont know if it actually applies to me. By the way your channel is gold,
There is no "female autism." Certain traits are found more commonly in women because girls are socialized differently than boys, but anyone can have them. These traits are also the ones that weren't recognized until more recently because the concept of autism was built around studies on little white boys. What some people call "female autism" is now referred to as "high masking autism," which is to say that it's not as obvious to the outside observer.
So yes, you could very well be a high masking autistic girl.
(Sorry to steal your question, Dr. Sage. May I request a video on autism in relation to gender and trans-ness? I know they have a significant overlap, and then there is the autigender phenomenon.)
@@PatchworkDragon thank you for your reply
What do you mean when you said trauma was common in autism?.
That abuse and trauma is a more common experience. It's not saying that abuse and trauma cause ADHD or autism
@@Sarah-with-an-H oh okay, I thought Kim was saying it's causes ADHD and Autism lol. Thanks for clearing that up.
@@babybluecheeks right I understand, that's a common thing the autistic community gets up in arms over because we want to squash the idea that autism can have any relation to trauma while most of us have stories of trauma while being autistic
yes, i literally made a video and shared on IG saying that "it wasn't just my childhood trauma, eggshell parents - saying it was asd -(to all the therapists, clinicians, doctors who think all of our symptoms are trauma- and someone read it wrong and told me "autism doesnt come from trauma, educate yourself!:" lol - luckily I had lovely humans who follow me that clapped back and i did too - but it was also so rude:(
exactly what they said! we just know that not only do autistics have a higher rate of PTSD and CPTSD, but also a recent study just came out saying autistic people are more likely to develop PTSD to even "mild stressors," that generally wouldn't be expected to create PTSD in other individuals who were not autistic.
Someone please list the five signs. Thanks.
sure:). 1. you have either adhd or asd already (also look at genetics and family members) 2. social cues are an issue/social dynamics have challenges (asd) but you also are more socially motivated (adhd). 3. you have core asd symptoms- but also have hyperactivity and/or impulsivity, and even inattention symptoms (also repetitive behaviors can look like hyperactivity if you don't understand the underlying behaviors and motivations 4. you seek novelty and familiarity 5. you crave/thrive/need routine, but also have difficulty regulating attention to maintain, create, etc routines, predictability...and basically the adhd part can sabotage or conflict with your core asd parts:)
Thanks very much. 👍🏻
TH-cam seems to think I have both. It keeps recommending these videos. I know I have ADHD
Still need more testing even with ADHD. This is amazing. Thank you 🫧🤍
It was difficult for me to follow what you were saying.I probably have everything.Will havr to watch again.
Heh
the range over which adhd and autism is being diagnosed has become so wide it kind of dilutes the diagnosis strength.
No. It just that some people have no idea what they are talking about. Like when people have a bad day and say they are "depressed."
When people tell me, "Oh, everyone is a little ADHD!", it is frustrating.
I literally have to take meds to make a phone call or to answer a message. Have you ever heard of executive dysfunction? This is torture.
There are perks, for sure. However, when you are stressed, things get really bad - that is, after the initial ADHD response, which is being on alert and staying calm while people around you run in circles, panicking (and thus being able to help them and to be useful). The more stress you get, the more time you need to recuperate
You blame everyone else for your shortcomings
someone should study how shitty religious teaching and bad parenting are at fault first.
When I hear someone say something like "after 40 years of being a public school teacher I realized I always had adhd," my tendency is to think that's not possible.
I was diagnosed autistic at the end of 2002, caught me by surprise.
Diagnosed ADHD combined type a year ago at 52.
I'm in tech, software development, currently over 9 years of developer support for a large tech company. I suspected for a few years I might have ADHD. I was going through the titration process last year, found I had bad side-effects with guanfacine, and I have BP issues as a concern.
I failed first grade the first time, but caught back up jumping from the middle of third grade into fourth grade.
Between sensory overload and zoning out, in first grade the first time, more than half the time I was lost, I had periods of time I couldn't tell you how I got there.
I ended up in special education as a result of dyspraxia and dyslexia, but my other issues weren't identified then.
I've got a bachelors degree.
Why? There is nothing impossible in that
𝖣𝗈 𝖺 𝗏𝗂𝖽𝖾𝗈 𝗂𝗇 𝗁𝗈𝗐 𝗍𝗈 𝗄𝗇𝗈𝗐 𝗒𝗈𝗎 𝖣𝗈 𝗇𝗈𝗍 𝗁𝖺𝗏𝖾 𝖺𝗎𝗍𝗂𝗌𝗆 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝗂𝗍𝗌 𝗃𝗎𝗌𝗍 𝖺𝖽𝗁𝖽?
What's wild is that my partner and I are both autistic and ADHD, yet mostly in different ways from one another. 😅