I have been using a TCDC device of my own making for about six years. It certainly has boosted my cognitive abilities. I use a basic small volume control to address controlling the intensity. As a side note, I would add that it seems to actually help with manifesting things. In other words, they say that your thoughts have power. In my case, I give more power to my thoughts. Whether it's related to the documented effect that thoughts seem to have at the Quantum level of reality or not, my attainment of things that I want to bring into my life seems to be related to the use of TCDS. Consider that possibility. Prayer, meditation, etc. all brought up to another level with the addition of more power...So, be careful what you wish for. If your thoughts have power, give more power to your thoughts...
This is even more relevant today than it was in 2013!!! I really appreciated Dr. Vince Clark's approach to the importance of the advancement of neuroscience in the treatment of so many health issues! Thinking outside of the box in VITAL right now. I enjoyed this lecture. I hope he's still around and giving more speeches about newer innovations since this lecture!
After using tcds I can feel part of my brain is not getting it and other parts are. I think that whole brain prefers it but the technology is not safely available
Is there a way to reach Dr. Clark? I teach middle school and many students suffer from ADHD. I'd like to know if the mouthpieces work for this and if there is a set thickness or if each child has to go through an fMRI to determine what is the correct thickness. Thanks
Is there any Groups that are Related to tDCS, i believe the application for the system could be recording and playback of memories i plan to buy a FLOW tDCS unit i have issues sensory overstimulation due to missalignment of retinal muscels cased by neck /sholder issues. the thing is i'm thinking this could be applied to more than just pain management.
I have used the brain driver v 2.1 & its not a replacement for Cymbalta, but it really really really makes a difference. I use it for 60 minutes at a time. I don't use it everyday, but when I go more than 4 or 5 days I can literally feel the depression coming back. It helps with my mood, motivation, and I physically feel better.
I wish we humans spent all our money on healthcare and developing a better standard of living better quality medicine, why build weapons to kill each other when we can develop ways to help mankind.
Your phone's GPS uses GPS satellites developed for nukes... the computer...The jet planes...Walkie-talkie...Duct tape...digital cameras (spy satellites)...internet.. Pretty much everything to make the iPhone... GO DO IT.
I think a better question would be to ask why we spend 3 times more money on welfare than we do even the military. Welfare has no positive effect on society. I mean at least with the military, we got the internet, but with welfare, nothing good is coming about. There will never be any new welfare based research projects lmao
In helping myself with my intense Fibromyalgia without medication, these brain enhancement have helped as if s light bulb lit up in brain after the effects of Fibro Fog working against my thinking about and doing many things in day living.
Eike Muller I used the electrodes that came in my Interferential/ TENS unit It is a set of clips on my earlobes and is set for a 14 minute set time . I use the Interferential as needed. I learned the brain has a pain loop that has to be broken so the nerve irritation and pain subside . The biting down effect spoken of here works on the neuro motor path ways
Disappointing how often even distinguished neuroscientists don't know / forget the basics. OK, he's not a physicist, but if he puts up slides in his talk with units of V/m then he really should know that V/m is a measure of the amount of force you'd expect on a charged particle. We've got far too used to looking at colored blobs on brain images and saying "oooh, look, there is a red bit here, surely that's important and deep and meaningful" rather than questioning what the data really tell us in terms of physiological measurements.
As have I explained to Jan by email, the question related to the changes in V/m across space shown in the model, not the V/m itself. So, my answer was about the change in V/m across space, which is actually a gradient in V/m, if I understand what gradients are.
16:04 PC yes but first, physical contact. Today, people are scared of it, there are taboos, moralism, and other things that prevent us from fully appreciating it. By now certain gestures are removed if done by those who are not in confidence, and many times even if we know each other well, even in the family, but ... A simple hug, a caress, a squeeze, a pat, can communicate a lot.
AndyJK45 not sure if the trigeminal ganglion is related (first order neuron) , but more likely the second order neurons “mesencephalic kinesthetic nucleus” which relays the pressure of the trigeminal path (seccond order neuron) rigt next to the periaqueductal grey matter which is for pain modulation and responds to endorphins and opiates in the cerebral aqueduct.
I understand the rate of learning goes up when tcds is used, and that the effect of the therapy lasts for 24 hours. My question is, How is is the retention of the material learned?
scott22v Hi Scott. I'm not entirely sure what your question is, but I suspect the material is learned pretty much as it would be without tDCS, but with tDCS participants have greater attention to the task, and more plasticity in their brains to help retain the memories.
I just made one out of a board I got on eBay for about$8 it has an led screen and voltage is adjustable, at the sponges the voltage was 1.85 but the problem is I feel no current. Is it unusual not to feel anything?
I'm in complete admiration of this. I recently read a book with a similar topic, and it was astonishing. "Unlocking the Brain's Full Potential" by Alexander Sterling
hey Dr.Clark, i have add innatentive form i've tried ritaline and experienced lot of horrible side effects. Medication doesn't work for me, can you please say if tdcs works on focus and if it is safe when we have also ocd? please if it's safe wich device shall i buy? thank you
I have one of these devices (not DIY, but a TENS machine) and by placing it over the approximate area of my left prefrontal cortex I haven't noticed any of the effects (enhanced focus, etc.) that other people have reports. I am interested in the use of this device for my OCD and ADHD, which make it hard for me to focus on one task and also very difficult to meditate. I messed up my head due to a prescription drug addiction and am worried I'll be working entry level jobs for the rest of my life, blech.
using the positive electrode, find the exact back middle part of your head, then move it about 2 inches to the left, and down half an inch, put the negative anywhere on the right front side of your head, either an inch up and to the right of your right eye, or further to the right near/above the ear, do that a few times in that exact spot, then let me know how you feel, we found this exact area with the positive electrode to be the best for work, anything related to maths, sentence structure, generating words or recalling them, and being able to relay your thoughts verbally to other people in a much easier manner.
sexualpredator13 What is this location on the 10/20 model? Also, I don't really care about cognitive enhancement, except maybe math, that has not affected my quality of life. It is the inability to focus and my thoughts jumping around that is the problem, as it is for most people. Anyway, I tried the positive electrode on my right temple as shown in the Sally Adee article and all it did was make me feel out of sorts.
valinor100 yes don't target the right side of your head with the positive, we too only noticed you feel odd, you can become more erratic with your thinking and behaviour, or if you target the rear right side, everything tasted nasty, you should read more super long replies on the other comment above, the best areas to target are T3 & T5, these seems to be the absolute best areas for any learning or problems solving, including language & mathematics.
WARNING: I burned a dime size hole through my scalp today with only 8 aa batteries and eeg pads. This is dangerous! In the past, I used sponges soaked in saltwater and only 3 aaa batteries - and was not burned. Be careful! I may have permanent scarring now - at best! Don't make the same mistake I made.
EEG pads from hydrogel are specifically not used because they cause that burning side effect. Salt water electrodes wont cause such a burn though. Is your burn healed atleast after all these years?
Good point. I should have said "modern" medicine or something similar. Although, the underlying meaning of allopathic is "other than the disease", that is, treating the symptoms but not the pathology itself. We need to be thinking more about how to correct the underlying illness, rather than the symptoms or manifestations of the illness.
I don't know why they use such a weird experiment instead of just having participants memorize words or preform some physically articulate and precise task.
Its because just memorizing words or "preforming some physically articulate and precise task" doesn't work nearly as well as using tDCS. The whole point is that using tDCS (safely and correctly, and based on neuroimaging data using fMRI) works better for learning something new than not using tDCS, or not using tDCS in this way.
If it doesn't work well outside of this experiment, then what's the point? I believe in it, I'm just criticizing their specific experiment. It seems odd to me.
***** It works fine, I'm not sure what you mean. Here is one paper from another lab using a version of our tDCS protocol for a totally different purpose: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=24341718 There will be more coming, from our lab and others, for training and other applications.
Vince Clark I am very interested in seeing the results of other applications. I think I've come up with a good one as well. Get some less than athletic and coordinated participants and have them learn to juggle a soccer ball. I'll be keeping up with this subject, especially because I'm a neuroscience major. I hope to read from your lab soon.
Stanford University is now conducting a research study on the tDCS user community. We’d love to know about who you are, why you are using tDCS and what your thoughts and concerns, if any, are regarding this special device.You are welcome to participate in the survey whether you purchased a device or built your own from scratch. Please click the following link to participate in an online survey on your tDCS experiences! stanforduniversity.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_9HN1EKmcwkiK9Ap
If anyone is interested, I have found the holy grail of TDCS use, targeting a specific part of the brain with the positive electrode, also found the exact part that if targeted, just makes everything taste bitter & metallic, including your own saliva... Now the person I have been testing it on is the number one business sales person for all of Australia at this particular firm, he drops by on lunch or before meetings to get a quick boost, I can't convince him to target any other part of his brain, he loves being turned into a cold calculating machine that seems to manifest words and sentencing structures from god knows where, and can find solutions to problems without really trying, TDCS is fantastic, I have also located the parts in which have made me hate cigarettes, which helps get off them far better than all those drugs out there with massive side effects.
***** yes I can, but give me a moment to map it out on the 10/20 structure thingo, and I will let you know the exact position to get the desired effects that we have managed to do in all 3 of us testing it.
TheWeirdTechGuy yes I can provide the details, im looking them up now on the brain map thing so I can let you know which areas to target and which effects you will get, but I am using a proper pre-built TDCS machine from trans-cranial.com, not sure about a home made one, but this one works, I also noticed some extremely weird side effects after a week of not using it... I can feel my brain getting re-wired, I'll let you know in about 30 mins of all details
Imagine when implants are available for this technology. If it works it could provide for a continuously better memory, depression handled and a host of other possible effects; better sleep maybe? I can't wait!
16:04 PC yes but first, physical contact. Today, people are scared of it, there are taboos, moralism, and other things that prevent us from fully appreciating it. By now certain gestures are removed if done by those who are not in confidence, and many times even if we know each other well, even in the family, but ... A simple hug, a caress, a squeeze, a pat, can communicate a lot.
I have been using a TCDC device of my own making for about six years. It certainly has boosted my cognitive abilities. I use a basic small volume control to address controlling the intensity. As a side note, I would add that it seems to actually help with manifesting things. In other words, they say that your thoughts have power. In my case, I give more power to my thoughts. Whether it's related to the documented effect that thoughts seem to have at the Quantum level of reality or not, my attainment of things that I want to bring into my life seems to be related to the use of TCDS. Consider that possibility. Prayer, meditation, etc. all brought up to another level with the addition of more power...So, be careful what you wish for. If your thoughts have power, give more power to your thoughts...
What electrode placement are you using?
This is a little late but can you tell me where to get one?
Can I get one?? Give me ur details..
Typically, it's a Diy project for the general market.
Nauromyst works well
This is even more relevant today than it was in 2013!!! I really appreciated Dr. Vince Clark's approach to the importance of the advancement of neuroscience in the treatment of so many health issues! Thinking outside of the box in VITAL right now. I enjoyed this lecture. I hope he's still around and giving more speeches about newer innovations since this lecture!
can i try this at home with my dad? he had a stroke, stiff left arm/whrist/fingers and no control in left leg/foot
i just ordered tDCS unit on amazon. I am curious what would happen with more than one unit on my head at once.
Any update? How was it
@@jigho5078 no update simply means "don't use two TdcS at once"😐
I thought of that too
After using tcds I can feel part of my brain is not getting it and other parts are. I think that whole brain prefers it but the technology is not safely available
Is there a way to reach Dr. Clark? I teach middle school and many students suffer from ADHD. I'd like to know if the mouthpieces work for this and if there is a set thickness or if each child has to go through an fMRI to determine what is the correct thickness. Thanks
Is there any Groups that are Related to tDCS, i believe the application for the system could be recording and playback of memories i plan to buy a FLOW tDCS unit i have issues sensory overstimulation due to missalignment of retinal muscels cased by neck /sholder issues.
the thing is i'm thinking this could be applied to more than just pain management.
I have used the brain driver v 2.1 & its not a replacement for Cymbalta, but it really really really makes a difference. I use it for 60 minutes at a time. I don't use it everyday, but when I go more than 4 or 5 days I can literally feel the depression coming back. It helps with my mood, motivation, and I physically feel better.
I wish we humans spent all our money on healthcare and developing a better standard of living better quality medicine, why build weapons to kill each other when we can develop ways to help mankind.
Your phone's GPS uses GPS satellites developed for nukes... the computer...The jet planes...Walkie-talkie...Duct tape...digital cameras (spy satellites)...internet..
Pretty much everything to make the iPhone... GO DO IT.
Kumandan Hüsamettin I agree!
I think a better question would be to ask why we spend 3 times more money on welfare than we do even the military. Welfare has no positive effect on society. I mean at least with the military, we got the internet, but with welfare, nothing good is coming about. There will never be any new welfare based research projects lmao
Simple: ISIS, Al Queda, Hitler, etc.
RedMatter Some people do need it.
I tried it and now I just feel woozy and off balance and can't concentrate. Not giving up as this was my first time
What are these dozen easy ways to influence the nervous system?
In helping myself with my intense Fibromyalgia without medication, these brain enhancement have helped as if s light bulb lit up in brain after the effects of Fibro Fog working against my thinking about and doing many things in day living.
Eike Muller
I used the electrodes that came in my Interferential/ TENS unit
It is a set of clips on my earlobes and is set for a 14 minute set time .
I use the Interferential as needed.
I learned the brain has a pain loop that has to be broken so the nerve irritation and pain subside . The biting down effect spoken of here works on the neuro motor path ways
So, what happened to everyone? How is everyone feeling ?
what's a good adult ADD montage? for executive functioning?
Disappointing how often even distinguished neuroscientists don't know / forget the basics. OK, he's not a physicist, but if he puts up slides in his talk with units of V/m then he really should know that V/m is a measure of the amount of force you'd expect on a charged particle. We've got far too used to looking at colored blobs on brain images and saying "oooh, look, there is a red bit here, surely that's important and deep and meaningful" rather than questioning what the data really tell us in terms of physiological measurements.
As have I explained to Jan by email, the question related to the changes in V/m across space shown in the model, not the V/m itself. So, my answer was about the change in V/m across space, which is actually a gradient in V/m, if I understand what gradients are.
16:04 PC yes but first, physical contact.
Today, people are scared of it, there are taboos, moralism, and other things that prevent us from fully appreciating it. By now certain gestures are removed if done by those who are not in confidence, and many times even if we know each other well, even in the family, but ...
A simple hug, a caress, a squeeze, a pat, can communicate a lot.
The biting on tongue depressors- very interesting-- is this possibly impacting on the trigeminal ganglion?
AndyJK45 not sure if the trigeminal ganglion is related (first order neuron) , but more likely the second order neurons “mesencephalic kinesthetic nucleus” which relays the pressure of the trigeminal path (seccond order neuron) rigt next to the periaqueductal grey matter which is for pain modulation and responds to endorphins and opiates in the cerebral aqueduct.
I understand the rate of learning goes up when tcds is used, and that the effect of the therapy lasts for 24 hours. My question is, How is is the retention of the material learned?
scott22v Hi Scott. I'm not entirely sure what your question is, but I suspect the material is learned pretty much as it would be without tDCS, but with tDCS participants have greater attention to the task, and more plasticity in their brains to help retain the memories.
study have shown that the information learned under tcds by darpa the people retained there information indefinitely
Vince, thanks for your answer. Is there any specific possition to place catode and anode to improve langguage?
Que estas haciendo chamo sabes que es el sistema NAVIS Sparcs N4? Honywell trabaja con ellos.
No no se que esta estaba leyendo av ver que es pero no explican mucho
I just made one out of a board I got on eBay for about$8 it has an led screen and voltage is adjustable, at the sponges the voltage was 1.85 but the problem is I feel no current. Is it unusual not to feel anything?
propheticguy need more voltage 12v-24v ideal but of course 5 months later you probably figured this out
I'm in complete admiration of this. I recently read a book with a similar topic, and it was astonishing. "Unlocking the Brain's Full Potential" by Alexander Sterling
hey Dr.Clark, i have add innatentive form i've tried ritaline and experienced lot of horrible side effects. Medication doesn't work for me, can you please say if tdcs works on focus and if it is safe when we have also ocd? please if it's safe wich device shall i buy?
thank you
I didn't get it, how biting a stick or teeth guard would solve such problems? What's the knowledge?
I'm buying a month guard tomorrow
I like how at 15 minutes in he doesn't include Television as any form of enhancement. Just take that in...
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Dr. Vince Clark on #TDCS for Cognitive Enhancement
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I have one of these devices (not DIY, but a TENS machine) and by placing it over the approximate area of my left prefrontal cortex I haven't noticed any of the effects (enhanced focus, etc.) that other people have reports. I am interested in the use of this device for my OCD and ADHD, which make it hard for me to focus on one task and also very difficult to meditate. I messed up my head due to a prescription drug addiction and am worried I'll be working entry level jobs for the rest of my life, blech.
using the positive electrode, find the exact back middle part of your head, then move it about 2 inches to the left, and down half an inch, put the negative anywhere on the right front side of your head, either an inch up and to the right of your right eye, or further to the right near/above the ear, do that a few times in that exact spot, then let me know how you feel, we found this exact area with the positive electrode to be the best for work, anything related to maths, sentence structure, generating words or recalling them, and being able to relay your thoughts verbally to other people in a much easier manner.
sexualpredator13 If I follow your advice, would I become a sexual predator as well?
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sexualpredator13
What is this location on the 10/20 model? Also, I don't really care about cognitive enhancement, except maybe math, that has not affected my quality of life. It is the inability to focus and my thoughts jumping around that is the problem, as it is for most people. Anyway, I tried the positive electrode on my right temple as shown in the Sally Adee article and all it did was make me feel out of sorts.
valinor100 yes don't target the right side of your head with the positive, we too only noticed you feel odd, you can become more erratic with your thinking and behaviour, or if you target the rear right side, everything tasted nasty, you should read more super long replies on the other comment above, the best areas to target are T3 & T5, these seems to be the absolute best areas for any learning or problems solving, including language & mathematics.
So, would this work to improve a high school student's ACT score?
Wow absolutely fantastic .
WARNING: I burned a dime size hole through my scalp today with only 8 aa batteries and eeg pads. This is dangerous! In the past, I used sponges soaked in saltwater and only 3 aaa batteries - and was not burned. Be careful! I may have permanent scarring now - at best! Don't make the same mistake I made.
EEG pads from hydrogel are specifically not used because they cause that burning side effect. Salt water electrodes wont cause such a burn though. Is your burn healed atleast after all these years?
4:47 "allopathic medicine"? did I just hear a scientist say that? 0.o
Good point. I should have said "modern" medicine or something similar. Although, the underlying meaning of allopathic is "other than the disease", that is, treating the symptoms but not the pathology itself. We need to be thinking more about how to correct the underlying illness, rather than the symptoms or manifestations of the illness.
please look up bio energy healing
Have your son checked for Lyme Disease co infections.
24:30, 51:10
why talking about tongue suppressors? U never address HOW it works.
That's not what this is about though
Absolutely incredible!
Chewing gum was on the list of ways to enhance cognition - must be similar to effects from biting down on tongue depressers - Hmmmmmm(?)
I don't know why they use such a weird experiment instead of just having participants memorize words or preform some physically articulate and precise task.
Its because just memorizing words or "preforming some physically articulate and precise task" doesn't work nearly as well as using tDCS. The whole point is that using tDCS (safely and correctly, and based on neuroimaging data using fMRI) works better for learning something new than not using tDCS, or not using tDCS in this way.
If it doesn't work well outside of this experiment, then what's the point? I believe in it, I'm just criticizing their specific experiment. It seems odd to me.
*****
It works fine, I'm not sure what you mean. Here is one paper from another lab using a version of our tDCS protocol for a totally different purpose: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=24341718
There will be more coming, from our lab and others, for training and other applications.
Vince Clark
I am very interested in seeing the results of other applications. I think I've come up with a good one as well. Get some less than athletic and coordinated participants and have them learn to juggle a soccer ball.
I'll be keeping up with this subject, especially because I'm a neuroscience major. I hope to read from your lab soon.
I love this technology 👍👍✌
Wow, amazing
Take questions AFTER the lecture! Those questions totally ruin the flow of the information.
very good
Stanford University is now conducting a research study on the tDCS user community. We’d love to know about who you are, why you are using tDCS and what your thoughts and concerns, if any, are regarding this special device.You are welcome to participate in the survey whether you purchased a device or built your own from scratch.
Please click the following link to participate in an online survey on your tDCS experiences!
stanforduniversity.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_9HN1EKmcwkiK9Ap
If anyone is interested, I have found the holy grail of TDCS use, targeting a specific part of the brain with the positive electrode, also found the exact part that if targeted, just makes everything taste bitter & metallic, including your own saliva... Now the person I have been testing it on is the number one business sales person for all of Australia at this particular firm, he drops by on lunch or before meetings to get a quick boost, I can't convince him to target any other part of his brain, he loves being turned into a cold calculating machine that seems to manifest words and sentencing structures from god knows where, and can find solutions to problems without really trying, TDCS is fantastic, I have also located the parts in which have made me hate cigarettes, which helps get off them far better than all those drugs out there with massive side effects.
Could you specifise which parts of brain are these ?
***** yes I can, but give me a moment to map it out on the 10/20 structure thingo, and I will let you know the exact position to get the desired effects that we have managed to do in all 3 of us testing it.
Okey, I can't wait to see the results, thank you :)
Could I also get the details? Very curious about this.
TheWeirdTechGuy yes I can provide the details, im looking them up now on the brain map thing so I can let you know which areas to target and which effects you will get, but I am using a proper pre-built TDCS machine from trans-cranial.com, not sure about a home made one, but this one works, I also noticed some extremely weird side effects after a week of not using it... I can feel my brain getting re-wired, I'll let you know in about 30 mins of all details
24:19 Elon Musk probably has this poster on his wall 😂
I know not a lot of people will see this, but it’s craz how far we developed
Jesus making a man walk prolly just gave the man something to bite on and he could walk again
Imagine when implants are available for this technology. If it works it could provide for a continuously better memory, depression handled and a host of other possible effects; better sleep maybe? I can't wait!
Bad idea. Think long term human advancement.
16:04 PC yes but first, physical contact.
Today, people are scared of it, there are taboos, moralism, and other things that prevent us from fully appreciating it. By now certain gestures are removed if done by those who are not in confidence, and many times even if we know each other well, even in the family, but ...
A simple hug, a caress, a squeeze, a pat, can communicate a lot.