Should have been :D Considering its ~100 dps loss for a completely braindead rotation of: DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK
@@sadmiqoxiv It's only very brain dead in specific fights with specific kill times. If there is any down time in the fight (see limit cut in p2s, dive in p3s), you will lose all of that damage because you've drifted out of control. If the kill time is slightly shorter or longer than you plan on, your damage will go down the toilet as well. And even then, it's not very brain dead because you have to hit twin snakes when it has less than a second of duration left in order to maximize dps.
In all fairness, I still out of habit still do all the positionals cause monk was so heavy on it for all of its life till endwalker. Translation I can't break out of it no matter how much I try.
I disagree with the only monk glamour, I always go with the kettles that Gerolt gave me to deliver boiling hot tea on peoples faces while wearing a yellow maid outfit
for me the level 70 fist weapon, the antiquated sudarshana chakra fist(and you bet i had to check how to spell that multiple times) thing is really good, still using fists instead of strapping two cheese graters to your hands, but has a wuxia power feel to it.
@@onomayonnaise Kettle Knuckles, with the glowing variant being called Kettle Knuckles Nexus The glowing variant even does a sound effect when you unsheathe them, cant remember if the normal one did
I was never interested in Monk, I got it up to 50 just to get it there, and haven't touched it since. But hearing that the third part of the standard combo is different every third one while the others are different every other, really makes me want to keep going with the class. That sounds pretty fun.
Well the dash of a dancer is a shorter distance than thunderclap. You would have to reduce the distance or have too few situations you would be able to use it without dashing off the arena. As a mnk player, is that desirable? As a dnc player I would say that the monk thunderclap is more usefull. There are almost no situations I use my dash unless I mess up something and try to fix it, but it's a huge positional difference between phys and melee. So I dont have a strong opinion on it. I just dont see how many situations that short dash would be usefull. The aoe clipping is crazy on it so you could just run out and it would do about the same.
My Monk brothers apparently need this man. I have seen some horrible Monks in my Expert recently. They need God. Also, I believe Chair, every job is easy at a basic elvel, but as if to spite that, I am seeing Monks doing sub 3k DPS as recent as this morning. I cannot comprehend how humanity got to this point, but I hope we can discover and rectify it soon.
lol i can imagine, even as someone who played quite a bit of monk before, but the EW version took me AWHILE to even get the hang of and do decent dmg, and i still mess it up constantly lol i can't even imagine a new player trying to pick it up, ESPECIALLY if they boosted it
5:24 i will pay $10 sponsorship if u agree to insult blue mages for 30 seconds. spread the good word. this would be good for you. and for the community as a whole
New Monk is so much better. I leveled from a level 1 Pugilist to level 65 Monk in Shadowbringers' final patch before Endwalker and it was just the most boring thing ever. You ain't lying when you say positionals we're all it had to keep it interesting and that just felt like a chore (not to mention extremely annoying at lower levels where tanks haven't figured out not to spin mobs needlessly yet). Now it's actually pretty fun.
only weird thing with new monk is always overwrite demolish/ts the combo before you go into a burst phase lol even if its at 9 seconds( which will happen right before your 2nd full burst window)
general play monk is pretty nice, but i cannot fucking stand how annoying it is to fully optimize monk fumbling with perfecting your demolish/twin snakes without any loss or early refreshes and using the formless off perfect balance properly to always do so
Oof showcasing an opener with a double weave before mentioning the 1.94 gcd is such a perfect joke because you know somebody out there with 80+ ping is trying to figure out why they're clipping
I can't take it anymore. I think even Google doesn't want that composition to be a thing. Please, Chair, anyone. Please tell me what made previous expansion's sextuple monk so good.
If you wanted a mediocre monk guide you could've just asked me. I'm a bit brainless so I just group up all my flank and rear positionals and alternate between them while weaving the other buttons when I can.
[dawntrail] now with the upgrades to brotherhood and six-sided star, 6 monks is the strongest being in the multiverse, able to put out a combined potency of around 10k on average every 7 GCDs.
The only melee dps I've played so far has been Ninja so I might try monk to see if I like it more. I'll probably be a bard/healer main this expansion but it should still be fun to try out.
Personally I prefer to do things the easy way and the hard way. That's why I move across the greater Canadian land mass every time I want to change positionals. There. I've done my part for the algo. Or whatever.
At level 34, I simply collected my forms into 3 separate physical groups, left, middle and right. Then I just button push anything that comes available in left to right succession, varying among the available buttons, adding a meditation here and there. Not perfect but I took the enmity off a tank once, so I was doing damage. Getting the enmity off me consisted of rotating my position from back to front where the tank was, then just stand there doing nothing until the tank regained enmity, then rotate to target backside again. I'm a sprout still learning, never played FFXIV.
just wait til you learn the DK rotation where you spam Dragon Kick as filler (and only refreshing twin snakes when you refresh dot) (and you do burst normally) and it's only 0.5% less dps than optimal
eh, only problem is that you're still putting in more effort than just playing normally lmao. the basic rotation is just that easy, also nah it's much more than 0.5% lmao
I don't usually do this but when I get back in the game, I might try to copy your hotbar setup. I've been using one with numpad numbers in mind for a long te but I'm hitting a wall of performance pretty hard.
leveling monk was probably the most miserable experience i've ever had in this game, not needing to play it until next expansion is the best part of the new monk to me
I'm level 39 right now, and that pretty much sums up my thoughts. it just feels awkward, and I like most low level rotations (even Black Mage). And the cherry on top is the Class Quest giver who insults your intelligence for no reason (even though I main scholar.) I better start throwing Ki-attacks, or Star-Platinum flurry punching soon, or I might just need to rethink this "every class at max" thing I'm trying to do.
thunder clap suck, i want reaper gap closer for monk, its more comfortoable cause it not require target something, you just teleport on 15 yalms from/to something, and you not needed panic targeting you ally for escaping aoe on last milliseconds
I'm curious why not rock breaker into destroyer for AOE rotation, during perfect balance. Yes it gives you the "mistake" but it guarantees a critical as well as bonus dmg when using brotherhood.
The "mistake" Blitz is not an aoe is the answer. Elixir Field and Rising Phoenix are multi target, so its always worth it to use Phoenix's strong potency over the guaranteed crit of Destroyer.
Thunderclap does have one downside compared to Shoulder Tackle: the SFX is a clear downgrade. I need that *crisp* impact. This is a clear nerf to the dopamine hit monks receive.
People call anyone who plays Ninja and Samurai weeaboos. But no one calls me a Euro-boo for being a black guy from the US playing a knight in some games. Why? Is it okay to play European classes but not asian ones? If so what about MNK? Its doing asian style boxing, martial arts.
@@rossedwards3623 I dont want it. I want to see people stop mocking people for liking a class type. I play ninja. I'm not a weeb. I like anime. Who doesn't? I dont cosplay. And I havent been to a con in 6 years. I'm no weeb. And most others likely arent either.
Why would you alternate Dragon Kick and Bootshine? Even with Leaden Fist, Dragon kick STILL has higher potency, so using bootshine at all is a waste of DPS. Edit: Also ignore Snap Punch and True strike, Dragon kick STILL has more potency and does not require positionals. Dragon Kick -> Twin Snakes -> Demolish -> Dragon Kick Spam until Twin Snakes it about to fall off, Refresh Twin Snakes and Demolish, Repeat and use OGCDS It might not be perfectly optimal, but people are parsing orange with it.
The one person to parse high with it (Mortred) had insane crit RNG and has been on record saying if he had done the actual optimal rotation he'd have gotten rank 1 instead of 41. > Even with Leaden Fist, Dragon kick STILL has higher potency, so using bootshine at all is a waste of DPS. Let's just ignore the guaranteed crit and chakra, shall we?
I don't even pay attention to these guides I just like hearing him talk about stuff in a very cynical and competent manner
was genuinely expecting this to be "just push dragon kick"
Should have been :D
Considering its ~100 dps loss for a completely braindead rotation of:
DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-TS-DEMO-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK-DK
@@sadmiqoxiv why do you hate me. This hurts to see again
@@vkrunk7 hahahha
@@sadmiqoxiv It's only very brain dead in specific fights with specific kill times. If there is any down time in the fight (see limit cut in p2s, dive in p3s), you will lose all of that damage because you've drifted out of control. If the kill time is slightly shorter or longer than you plan on, your damage will go down the toilet as well. And even then, it's not very brain dead because you have to hit twin snakes when it has less than a second of duration left in order to maximize dps.
You can, below 60.
Never forget…
“Monk alone, weak, monks together, strong”
I bet half the people here don't know about old dragonkick and the blunt resist debuff
" A greedy bastard that teleports to ally who actually did the mechanic " 😅😅😅😅
And then he teleports INTO a mechanic
In all fairness, I still out of habit still do all the positionals cause monk was so heavy on it for all of its life till endwalker. Translation I can't break out of it no matter how much I try.
i totally haven't accidentally murdered my entire static by trying to hit positionals that don't exist
Thanks for this very clear and insightful guide. I still have no idea what I'm doing
I disagree with the only monk glamour, I always go with the kettles that Gerolt gave me to deliver boiling hot tea on peoples faces while wearing a yellow maid outfit
for me the level 70 fist weapon, the antiquated sudarshana chakra fist(and you bet i had to check how to spell that multiple times) thing is really good, still using fists instead of strapping two cheese graters to your hands, but has a wuxia power feel to it.
Please tell me name of those kettles
@@onomayonnaise Kettle Knuckles, with the glowing variant being called Kettle Knuckles Nexus
The glowing variant even does a sound effect when you unsheathe them, cant remember if the normal one did
@@onomayonnaise you have to do ARR relic weapons to acquire them, though.
I use the final ShB relic. Also still has you punching with actual fists, but with also having sharp crystals cloating aboce them for extra stab
I was never interested in Monk, I got it up to 50 just to get it there, and haven't touched it since.
But hearing that the third part of the standard combo is different every third one while the others are different every other, really makes me want to keep going with the class. That sounds pretty fun.
I do wish thunderclap worked like the dancers where you dont have to target things to use it
Well the dash of a dancer is a shorter distance than thunderclap. You would have to reduce the distance or have too few situations you would be able to use it without dashing off the arena. As a mnk player, is that desirable? As a dnc player I would say that the monk thunderclap is more usefull. There are almost no situations I use my dash unless I mess up something and try to fix it, but it's a huge positional difference between phys and melee. So I dont have a strong opinion on it. I just dont see how many situations that short dash would be usefull. The aoe clipping is crazy on it so you could just run out and it would do about the same.
My Monk brothers apparently need this man. I have seen some horrible Monks in my Expert recently. They need God.
Also, I believe Chair, every job is easy at a basic elvel, but as if to spite that, I am seeing Monks doing sub 3k DPS as recent as this morning. I cannot comprehend how humanity got to this point, but I hope we can discover and rectify it soon.
those monks are just spamming bootshine instead of spamming dragon kick like they are supposed to
@@prancer8934 Based and S I X M O N K ' S Pilled
I'm a 6SS-based-rotation monk. You don't pay my sub and I *will* report you for harassment. 😎
lol i can imagine, even as someone who played quite a bit of monk before, but the EW version took me AWHILE to even get the hang of and do decent dmg, and i still mess it up constantly lol i can't even imagine a new player trying to pick it up, ESPECIALLY if they boosted it
5:24 i will pay $10 sponsorship if u agree to insult blue mages for 30 seconds. spread the good word. this would be good for you. and for the community as a whole
Don't Blue Mages have it hard enough by not being a real job?
When they get lv80 in the future it will be OP again lol. blu is my favorite job so stay away from it :
Is this a veiled attempt to get you to cymp for chair? Bold strategy, but it just might work
This guide is sick af... but i gotta watch it like 30 times to understand it xD
New Monk is so much better. I leveled from a level 1 Pugilist to level 65 Monk in Shadowbringers' final patch before Endwalker and it was just the most boring thing ever. You ain't lying when you say positionals we're all it had to keep it interesting and that just felt like a chore (not to mention extremely annoying at lower levels where tanks haven't figured out not to spin mobs needlessly yet). Now it's actually pretty fun.
I main Monk and I approve of the emperor's new fist. It is indeed the way.
only weird thing with new monk is always overwrite demolish/ts the combo before you go into a burst phase lol even if its at 9 seconds( which will happen right before your 2nd full burst window)
MONKEY MAINS RISE UP OOOHHH OOOOOH AAAHHH AHHH
Reject weapons, return to monke.
general play monk is pretty nice,
but i cannot fucking stand how annoying it is to fully optimize monk fumbling with perfecting your demolish/twin snakes without any loss or early refreshes and using the formless off perfect balance properly to always do so
At least they made it to where you dont accidentally fat finger pb while in pb
Emperor's New is cool and all, but Sephirot's glamour is pretty snazzy.
same thing, just glowy and has extra wrist support
I remember casting Brotherhood for the first time in an alliance raid. Got so overwhelmed with chakra I ate a full meteor.
I just started levelling monk so this is fantastic, thank you.
RETURN TO OPO-OPO 🐒🐒🐒🐒🐒🐒
TH-cam have me the option to translate the comment to English... And nothing changed
@@Chichaetomate
Opo-Opo is the universal fighting language, no translation needed.
NO DOUBLE SOLAR REEEEEEEEEEE
Jk, you’re nonchalant and melancholy voice somehow makes me feel better about myself. Thanks!
Thanks a lot King
Oof showcasing an opener with a double weave before mentioning the 1.94 gcd is such a perfect joke because you know somebody out there with 80+ ping is trying to figure out why they're clipping
I can't take it anymore. I think even Google doesn't want that composition to be a thing.
Please, Chair, anyone. Please tell me what made previous expansion's sextuple monk so good.
it's a meme, 100% brotherhood uptime, monk alone weak, monks together strong
"The second core/cour of this anime arc" godsdamnit Chair, stop having clever lines.
oh shoot are you not "supposed to" do 2 true strikes anymore??
ALso stoked for the double solar memes
It has to do with twin snakes buff falling off just before you hit a buffed bootshine.
Finally I've been waiting for this
If you wanted a mediocre monk guide you could've just asked me. I'm a bit brainless so I just group up all my flank and rear positionals and alternate between them while weaving the other buttons when I can.
I like the new Ninja, dropped the daggers for more dmg so that people give a fuck about him.
Great to see a souls reference considering the next game that was ever made in existence, Elden Ring, comes out today
[dawntrail] now with the upgrades to brotherhood and six-sided star, 6 monks is the strongest being in the multiverse, able to put out a combined potency of around 10k on average every 7 GCDs.
I skipped the Skip Me Promoting Myself section and now I feel a bit guilty.
As a monk main, this is like condensing the Balance info into a video format... still info overload for newbie monks tho
The only melee dps I've played so far has been Ninja so I might try monk to see if I like it more. I'll probably be a bard/healer main this expansion but it should still be fun to try out.
The zoom in on you dying to the firebird when I'm sitting here being like "careful... 😥 Careful!"
😂
I use Ctrl+Alt+(number) for the fourth line, thats how much Monk I am.
guess this will make more sense once i progress further. seems i at least have the main rotation down.
i see, perfect balance has a purpose
Nah. A true monk beats their opponents to death with a pair of shiny kettles.
Personally I prefer to do things the easy way and the hard way. That's why I move across the greater Canadian land mass every time I want to change positionals.
There. I've done my part for the algo. Or whatever.
“A man must fight with his/her fist”, they said…
Ah yes, my first job
Oh Yeah!!!! YEAAAAAHHHH! WHOOOOOOOOOAAAAA
Thanks for the guide
Monk... doesn't need anything but their fist...and Glamor
At level 34, I simply collected my forms into 3 separate physical groups, left, middle and right. Then I just button push anything that comes available in left to right succession, varying among the available buttons, adding a meditation here and there. Not perfect but I took the enmity off a tank once, so I was doing damage. Getting the enmity off me consisted of rotating my position from back to front where the tank was, then just stand there doing nothing until the tank regained enmity, then rotate to target backside again. I'm a sprout still learning, never played FFXIV.
not to rain on ur parade but that tank prolly didn't have stance on i can hit a mob 1 time w/ aoe and dps completely kill it w/o losing agro
the hyper-based AoE Lunar PB is to use 3 Demolish :^)
SIX MONKS!
Thanks for you amazing job and Fun :3
just wait til you learn the DK rotation where you spam Dragon Kick as filler (and only refreshing twin snakes when you refresh dot) (and you do burst normally) and it's only 0.5% less dps than optimal
eh, only problem is that you're still putting in more effort than just playing normally lmao. the basic rotation is just that easy, also nah it's much more than 0.5% lmao
Needs more Dragon Kick.
You're funny :) I'll follow your stuff for now on
Perfect balance is older than samurai. So you’re right it isn’t a samurai button
This is legitimately the best monk guide on youtube
I am confused but Enlightened
Idk if you said it
Just make sure you hit riddle of fire as a late weave so it affects 11 gcds instead of 10
MONKS
Aww, Monks are getting some love with EW.
I don't usually do this but when I get back in the game, I might try to copy your hotbar setup. I've been using one with numpad numbers in mind for a long te but I'm hitting a wall of performance pretty hard.
you forgot the dragon kick rotation
good stuff
>The final skill is the only one that requires a rotation now
As someone who's been doing these positionals since HW I feel like a chump now haha
Im more confused in how to use monk after watching the video XD. I really like monk, but i guest i will neves use it for any content thats not alone.
Im currently swiching between elden ring and ffxiv because controller runs out of battery
leveling monk was probably the most miserable experience i've ever had in this game, not needing to play it until next expansion is the best part of the new monk to me
I'm level 39 right now, and that pretty much sums up my thoughts.
it just feels awkward, and I like most low level rotations (even Black Mage).
And the cherry on top is the Class Quest giver who insults your intelligence for no reason (even though I main scholar.)
I better start throwing Ki-attacks, or Star-Platinum flurry punching soon, or I might just need to rethink this "every class at max" thing I'm trying to do.
I loved MNK for so long. But I still love Ninja more. MNK has no good ranged attacks and staying up close all the time.
NIN is basically RDM that only deal physical damage
@@dale7326 true. But I love it. No lag with spells. Ninjutsu is fast and can be done rapidly as combos.
thunder clap suck, i want reaper gap closer for monk, its more comfortoable cause it not require target something, you just teleport on 15 yalms from/to something, and you not needed panic targeting you ally for escaping aoe on last milliseconds
SIX
Since I don't see any comments about it . Remember to DEMOLISH the rear. Thank you
Yeeeeeah, uhmm i guess would be better to learn all that stuff from a monk irl for me.
I miss positionals...
Monk main here. NIN, SAM, and BLM tears fuel me.
Heh... silly man can't punch....
You could have waited a week and released the all crits and dragon kicks Monk guide on April 1st
Dragon kick
I'm curious why not rock breaker into destroyer for AOE rotation, during perfect balance. Yes it gives you the "mistake" but it guarantees a critical as well as bonus dmg when using brotherhood.
The "mistake" Blitz is not an aoe is the answer.
Elixir Field and Rising Phoenix are multi target, so its always worth it to use Phoenix's strong potency over the guaranteed crit of Destroyer.
Yea this looks like an "easy" job... he ... hehe.
neat guide, but it got pretty complicated
Monk mmmmmm
Haha...*hand*icap
I am only here to thumbs up and comment.
14:35 lol i saw that
I thought rising Phoenix only replaced celestial revolution... I should go back and read those tooltips ...
I miss draconic thrust for drg requiring positionals
as a member of the double solar gang i am going to dislike the video
Double solar gang gang
Nope no emperors fist
Work too hard for my byakko hands
Also perfect balance is not a samurai button....
Monk had it first
Thunderclap does have one downside compared to Shoulder Tackle: the SFX is a clear downgrade. I need that *crisp* impact. This is a clear nerf to the dopamine hit monks receive.
Well I gues I have the time to learn this shit in DPS queue
People call anyone who plays Ninja and Samurai weeaboos. But no one calls me a Euro-boo for being a black guy from the US playing a knight in some games. Why? Is it okay to play European classes but not asian ones? If so what about MNK? Its doing asian style boxing, martial arts.
I’ll call you a Euroboo if you want
@@rossedwards3623 I dont want it. I want to see people stop mocking people for liking a class type. I play ninja. I'm not a weeb. I like anime. Who doesn't? I dont cosplay. And I havent been to a con in 6 years. I'm no weeb. And most others likely arent either.
@@kokayinewsome9308 lol okay euroboo
Rip shb blm recovery
Wait, it's "non-di" and not "naut-di"?
people play monk? lol i rarely see them
ez
Why would you alternate Dragon Kick and Bootshine?
Even with Leaden Fist, Dragon kick STILL has higher potency, so using bootshine at all is a waste of DPS.
Edit: Also ignore Snap Punch and True strike, Dragon kick STILL has more potency and does not require positionals.
Dragon Kick -> Twin Snakes -> Demolish -> Dragon Kick Spam until Twin Snakes it about to fall off, Refresh Twin Snakes and Demolish, Repeat and use OGCDS
It might not be perfectly optimal, but people are parsing orange with it.
The one person to parse high with it (Mortred) had insane crit RNG and has been on record saying if he had done the actual optimal rotation he'd have gotten rank 1 instead of 41.
> Even with Leaden Fist, Dragon kick STILL has higher potency, so using bootshine at all is a waste of DPS.
Let's just ignore the guaranteed crit and chakra, shall we?
Bootshine is just simply a more consistent button than relying on DK.
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Lmao just mash Dragon Kick.
Demolish from the rear... Not funny 🤣