But what is illegal is harassment and that's what he's doing. Using the right to film/take photos to gain a reaction and keep doing it which is classed as harassment so technically could be arrested for it.
The problem is, like that, because of these forced filmings... after some time, like with drones, the law is gonna drastically change, i am pretty sure.
@@kylegowan1181 It isnt DJ that instigates the harassment by doing things that are legal in a public place like filming. Where the problem occurs is when private concern send their employees onto public areas to try to impose perceived authority and not knowing the law. As with this video you have 2 private security guards out in public stating "laws" and refusing to acknowledge what the actual law is when its presented to them. Its "I have a yellow jacket and SIA licence (not on display) so the public must follow my instructions.
We're all pawns. Everyone has a "top fight security of the world craig" job to do though, no matter knowledge of law or youtube. Good old rat race ay..
As an ex security guard from another country it astounds me how little training security guards receive. Waitrose are negligent. These two unfortunate souls are left to their own devices and make fools of themselves and their behaviour reflects badly on the company. Same stupidity where I come from.
Excellent, you are calm, knowledgeable, not out to instigate confrontations but rightly defend what you are doing by showing people the law. I wish all “auditors” operated in the same fashion. Keep up the good work
I cant believe that a licenced security guard and his manager have absolutely no clue as to SIA conformity or the law. They should both be sacked on the spot. Disgusting.
I can believe it.....they don't care, and many previous videos have shown that the police don't take it seriously, and neither do the respective companies......anything for a quiet life 😮
"If we don't know who you are and you could be anyone obviously then it's part of the law that you can't film". They just make it up as they go along, don't they... I wonder what any "security guard/cop" test looks like? Question 1: Lie the best you can, use as many key words as possible. End of test.
If he's engaging a member of the public in his capacity as a security operative then surely he has to have it on display? What does data protection have to do with it? @@shaka7594
@@shaka7594 The law says that he does have to have his licence visible. This is a licensable front line activity (guarding, patrolling, observe and report). And there is no data protection exclusion; only an exclusion if the activity requires that they are not identifiable (i.e. covert), which doesn't apply here.
He may be an idiot but his skills are in high demand by employers and government. Over time honest people will be bred out in favor of people with a good grasp of sophism and the true agenda.
Doesn't matter he's dealing with a member of the public in his duty of a licensed sia security. Check the govt security website laws. Better still, watch the dj audits video of him, talking to a sia corporate regional manager, at a trade conference. The sia guy makes it very clear that not wearing your sia licence, which must be visible, not hidden, is a CRIMINAL OFFENCE, except when working covertly, or its been reported lost, or stolen. Waitresses can not employ private security, to deal with non waitrose employees in the uk, unless they are sia licensed. Its the law.
These security types put themselves in curious situations. Ridiculed by the global public and probably lambasted by their employers, I wonder how many get fired for ignorance? It’s really the fault of the employers that these security guys are as clueless as they are.
It is the responsibility of the companies to train them properly but in particular the government should be blamed for lack of regulation and inspection.
Considering the employers are mostly private contractor security companies the guards are an easily replaceable insignificant asset. Even if these 2 did get fired they would be replaced the following day with 2 others equally as bad.
As a security Professional When did Waitrose purchase the pavement then give You jurisdiction over the public right of way?Even the manager lives in La La land
So they conspired to engineer a specious removal of this video and the potential revenue on the basis of an entirely known and false allegation of personal and directed wrongdoing? I think someone has made themselves liable.
Honestly, who the heck trains these guards. They haven't got a bloody clue about the law or boundaries. Surely, their managers need to look into this as it makes the company look completely incompetent. A government rule is completely ignored. What's the point of having rules if they are not obeyed.
The thing is that they probably still believe that they were correct. Probably still chasing people up and down the road that have cameras and telling them complete nonsense!
If SIA officers come up to you to tell you to stop filming, make sure they have their Public Space Surveillance Licence, as they're trying to taking control over video footage. If they're unlicenced to do so, they're making an illegal request under their existing license conditions. Also, while the Section 26 of the criminal justice and courts act mainly covers corrupt or improper exercise of policing powers and privileges, it also applies to licenced SIA officers in certain situations. in this case, the guy at the start is indeed acting as the security guard for the business and thus acting under his SIA authority. Liability for SIA is not limited to civil charges outside of the property he's working on, as section 7 of the private security industry act 2001 notes the license requirements, and liability of legal consequences including fines, and criminal charges.
'Percieved jurisdiction' AND 'ficticious laws' then threatens to sue, whereby he would be identified, leaving him open to a repost to the security licesing scheme, which given viseo evidence would incur loss of license a fine at minimum and possible imprisonment! The delusions are strong with this one!
Its unbelievable that an organisation the size of Waitrose are completely ignorant in the law surrounding filming and SIA conditions. Was there anything that the two single cell organisms got right? 😕
I still can't comprehend how silly the security is, their reaction is the video... why can they not engage and encourage? Ask the photographer if they see anything they believe out of sorts to let them know... it's really that simple
I work for Waitrose and I am quite literally seen a lot of these videos of Waitrose employees coming out to see two photographers and videographers that you can’t do those sort of things… I go around taking pictures and I’ve never been stopped by the security guard so far and I’m quite glad for that but I don’t like it when other people get stopped because they are not doing anything harm it’s the job of the security guard to observe and then report not to intervene if they don’t know the laws
Yes from this ? ha ha ha THEY talking bull shit tell him to M Y O B and scoot private property private property He has turned into a private property parrot You a terrorist on cycle ha ha ha another who cannot be educated the brain has closed down E C T required
Shocking behaviour from representatives of a company that cares about brand recognition. Any response from the Waitrose PR team about this yet? Please keep your viewers informed of any further developments.
DJ: "ok, here is the gov't page, the law, the section, Must be displayed" Security: "Nuh-uuh!" DJ: *facepalms* Viewers: *facepalms* Universe: *facepalms*
Boy all these companies SURE BRAINWASH thier 'Security Staff' into believing a lot of stuff is illegal?(sigh)... but ive always wondered IF the same companies will BACK UP LEGALLY any hired security who might put 'Hands On' anyone?(Not likely if its not written in blood?)
Nothing makes these guys want to run away faster than when DJ pulls out the laws on the CAA or GOV websites. It's like it burns their eyes or something.
Thus SIA operative is OUT of his area of work and you should take his number from his badge and report his He is putting ALL of the SIA security personnel in a BAD LIGHT, I personally was 9 yrs in security and never had a problem but this guy needs investigating and at least reporting
7:10 The wording says "licensable ACTIVITY" not licensed premises. This guy is incompetent. He is also stupid and refuses to understand the law around his job. Does he not understand that breaking the law that covers his job, he is committing a criminal act. Not many jobs have laws that govern them, but being a security guard does. So follow the law or become a criminal.
Suspicious is one of the most abused words in the English language. When the presumed security guard tells DJ that he is investigating suspicious activity, what he really means is that DJ's activities arouse feelings of suspicion in him. So, in reality, the presumed security guard is the suspicious person.
Upload. Did Waitrose Bosses take action. The 2 security were poorly trained. It was like the blind leading the blind. I like Waitrose I hope they were not the reason for the Upload
Well worth the reupload ... even if someone sulked about something at the original begining. (We know was it was) Haha The two fools get to perform again ... well done Waitrose. Guess which delivery I will not be using !
When Paul introduced himself, I had such high hopes for all of 20 seconds
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It's amazing how a badge can transform someone into a prick
@@May4thbwithu Now there's a point. Does the badge make him a prick, or does it take a prick to wear one? Chicken 'n egg.
@@briandouglas2123 mind blown!
@@May4thbwithu
could be the jacket.
"That's a public footpath, this is a private road" Pointing at the same road 😂
I am hopelessly fascinated by the mentality of people thinking filming is illegal or 'not allowed
do they also run around after tesla's or dashcams?
But what is illegal is harassment and that's what he's doing. Using the right to film/take photos to gain a reaction and keep doing it which is classed as harassment so technically could be arrested for it.
The problem is, like that, because of these forced filmings... after some time, like with drones, the law is gonna drastically change, i am pretty sure.
@@JozefMackovicthe laws going to change regardless with freedoms. Look at Scotland.
@@kylegowan1181 It isnt DJ that instigates the harassment by doing things that are legal in a public place like filming. Where the problem occurs is when private concern send their employees onto public areas to try to impose perceived authority and not knowing the law. As with this video you have 2 private security guards out in public stating "laws" and refusing to acknowledge what the actual law is when its presented to them. Its "I have a yellow jacket and SIA licence (not on display) so the public must follow my instructions.
I've come to the conclusion that the majority of these people doing these security jobs are as thick as castle walls.
They are otherwise unemployable.
THAT in a nutshell is THE ANSWER
Sia must be a none fail examination, guaranteed pass, otherwise these people wouldn't pass
That's extremely unfair to castle walls 🤣
Right as far as it goes that's alright. It's when they become deliberately obstructive or aggressive when it's time for them to be schooled.
We're all pawns. Everyone has a "top fight security of the world craig" job to do though, no matter knowledge of law or youtube. Good old rat race ay..
As an ex security guard from another country it astounds me how little training security guards receive. Waitrose are negligent. These two unfortunate souls are left to their own devices and make fools of themselves and their behaviour reflects badly on the company. Same stupidity where I come from.
Well said.
they should stay inside the store and pick their nose
They will have undergone vigorous training unfortunately it's the lack of brain power they have to comprehend and use it. Howdy from England btw👍
@@leedaley2753 The SIA should really take some responsibility for passing applicants that are incapable of retaining the information.
Thank you and Gidday from Bew Zealand👍
Excellent, you are calm, knowledgeable, not out to instigate confrontations but rightly defend what you are doing by showing people the law. I wish all “auditors” operated in the same fashion. Keep up the good work
Security is as thick as two short planks stuck together with stupid glue, And we also have the blind leading the blind !
I like that one 😊
I cant believe that a licenced security guard and his manager have absolutely no clue as to SIA conformity or the law. They should both be sacked on the spot. Disgusting.
I would imagine that they are both receiving remedial training as a matter of urgency. This looks very bad for Waitrose.
I agree, you'll probably see Kermit as a replacement. I'm sure he'd do a better job🤡🤡🤡
pffft shut up..
I can believe it.....they don't care, and many previous videos have shown that the police don't take it seriously, and neither do the respective companies......anything for a quiet life 😮
I can.
It's so sad to see how much people have been dumbed down.
The jib jab showed us how bad it was
Heston's latest recipe....."We can trespass what your eyes can see"! When DJ says he doesn't need your permission, he really doesn't!!
BY HIS LOGIC YOU MUST NOT EVEN LOOK AT HIS BUILDING . HO BOY GIVE ME STRENGTH DEAR LORD
I want this law book that all these people read ! Its priceless !
It’s called the Beano Guide to British Law.
"If we don't know who you are and you could be anyone obviously then it's part of the law that you can't film". They just make it up as they go along, don't they... I wonder what any "security guard/cop" test looks like? Question 1: Lie the best you can, use as many key words as possible. End of test.
I think its called fake it till you make it, clearly its subject number one on the idiots united training program...
I believe you also have to mention (if I came and filmed your house) 😊
He expects you to follow a privacy law he made up, but doesn't abide by the real law to wear a SIA badge! What an idiot.
If he's engaging a member of the public in his capacity as a security operative then surely he has to have it on display? What does data protection have to do with it? @@shaka7594
@@shaka7594 The law says that he does have to have his licence visible. This is a licensable front line activity (guarding, patrolling, observe and report). And there is no data protection exclusion; only an exclusion if the activity requires that they are not identifiable (i.e. covert), which doesn't apply here.
1:04 - Mr Confidently Incorrect.
He may be an idiot but his skills are in high demand by employers and government. Over time honest people will be bred out in favor of people with a good grasp of sophism and the true agenda.
@@shaka7594 Wrong. Where are you getting this info from. Please elaborate.
Love the sarcasm! And they don't realise it! Where do they make these things up from?
Paul is clearly clueless! Waitrose wake up!!!
"Back to work!" always goes down a treat.
Someone needs to go on a SIA course
SIA COURSE THEN GIVE US ALL A GOOD LAUGH AT THE INCOMPETENCE BEING TAUGHT
Doesn't matter he's dealing with a member of the public in his duty of a licensed sia security. Check the govt security website laws. Better still, watch the dj audits video of him, talking to a sia corporate regional manager, at a trade conference. The sia guy makes it very clear that not wearing your sia licence, which must be visible, not hidden, is a CRIMINAL OFFENCE, except when working covertly, or its been reported lost, or stolen. Waitresses can not employ private security, to deal with non waitrose employees in the uk, unless they are sia licensed. Its the law.
@@xzzxxxxzzxThe guard was in public though, not on site.
These security types put themselves in curious situations. Ridiculed by the global public and probably lambasted by their employers, I wonder how many get fired for ignorance? It’s really the fault of the employers that these security guys are as clueless as they are.
It is the responsibility of the companies to train them properly but in particular the government should be blamed for lack of regulation and inspection.
Considering the employers are mostly private contractor security companies the guards are an easily replaceable insignificant asset. Even if these 2 did get fired they would be replaced the following day with 2 others equally as bad.
Someone doesn't want people to know that they are extremely stupid and incompetent.
Ooh. Are we talking about the 650 muppets with licences to defraud the public?
You sound like my dad.
Epic fail 😂
I had a bowl of cereal this morning. It was smarter than those 2 guards.
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Yeah . . . and with that those two bosos will claim you are a cereal killer
kinda like Wheaties without the milk....they gag you
THIS, this is the quality of waitrose at its most basic??? and they allow them out in public??! jeezus how crap is the system???
As a security Professional When did Waitrose purchase the pavement then give You jurisdiction over the public right of way?Even the manager lives in La La land
I don’t think his lift shaft goes all the way to the top bless him.
are you suggesting hes not the brightest ... he is equal to Einstein you bigot 🙂
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I will take a guess where his shaft goes
Word has it that shunters are still pulling trailers without VRMs on these public roads. These roads are not Waitrose property.
I did a 5 miute test, therefore i know the LAW.
So they conspired to engineer a specious removal of this video and the potential revenue on the basis of an entirely known and false allegation of personal and directed wrongdoing? I think someone has made themselves liable.
Well, they got that wrong too, as now their idiocy gets a fresh set of eyes.
I had forgotten how ignorant these 2 boneheads were.
Thanks for reminding DJ.....:)
Honestly, who the heck trains these guards. They haven't got a bloody clue about the law or boundaries. Surely, their managers need to look into this as it makes the company look completely incompetent. A government rule is completely ignored. What's the point of having rules if they are not obeyed.
Pass and go do what they please
The thing is that they probably still believe that they were correct. Probably still chasing people up and down the road that have cameras and telling them complete nonsense!
Exactly, no-one seems to take the law seriously in this regard.
If SIA officers come up to you to tell you to stop filming, make sure they have their Public Space Surveillance Licence, as they're trying to taking control over video footage. If they're unlicenced to do so, they're making an illegal request under their existing license conditions. Also, while the Section 26 of the criminal justice and courts act mainly covers corrupt or improper exercise of policing powers and privileges, it also applies to licenced SIA officers in certain situations. in this case, the guy at the start is indeed acting as the security guard for the business and thus acting under his SIA authority. Liability for SIA is not limited to civil charges outside of the property he's working on, as section 7 of the private security industry act 2001 notes the license requirements, and liability of legal consequences including fines, and criminal charges.
Don’t argue with idiots they will drag you down to their level and beat you on experience
Those two were like children, very strange
Talk to the manager he'll know, they literally never know
The manager of security never employs anyone who is brighter than them! 😂
'Percieved jurisdiction' AND 'ficticious laws' then threatens to sue, whereby he would be identified, leaving him open to a repost to the security licesing scheme, which given viseo evidence would incur loss of license a fine at minimum and possible imprisonment! The delusions are strong with this one!
Waitrose, Legal Services, pro bono, (we specialise in drone law).
Its unbelievable that an organisation the size of Waitrose are completely ignorant in the law surrounding filming and SIA conditions. Was there anything that the two single cell organisms got right? 😕
You do realise internal security teams aren't bound by SIA rules, right?
To answer your ???. No they were not smart enough to understand anything.
@@apocalypso1564then wtf was he doing outside the property trying to tell someone they are doing something wrong
Back on our screens in time for Comic Relief.
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He is SIA in a public space no jurisdiction whatsoever.
I still can't comprehend how silly the security is, their reaction is the video... why can they not engage and encourage? Ask the photographer if they see anything they believe out of sorts to let them know... it's really that simple
I work for Waitrose and I am quite literally seen a lot of these videos of Waitrose employees coming out to see two photographers and videographers that you can’t do those sort of things…
I go around taking pictures and I’ve never been stopped by the security guard so far and I’m quite glad for that but I don’t like it when other people get stopped because they are not doing anything harm it’s the job of the security guard to observe and then report not to intervene if they don’t know the laws
I don't think the SIA course is fit for purpose.
Yes from this ? ha ha ha THEY talking bull shit tell him to M Y O B and scoot private property private property
He has turned into a private property parrot You a terrorist on cycle ha ha ha
another who cannot be educated the brain has closed down E C T required
Security making up the law again, the training must be superb especially the law module.
I love how the security guards.Wet themselves when DJ says i am gonna take the drone over 😂 🇬🇧
Their faces are priceless. Every single time.
I've never heard a couple of guys talk so much shite...
No license on show they are just Jo public and tell them to F off
Go on then let's hear it ❤ quote of the day 🎉
Wow two villages that have lost their idiots what are the chances? Help them get home again ffs.
The villagers don't want them back
Im sure i commented this on the original video, but what an audit! Pure class DJ!
Well I never knew terrorists would want to attack waitrose
Hmmm! There prices are ridiculous though😅
I think its because Waitrose aren't displaying a licence plate on their trucks, who knows who lurks amongst us, could be the military
You could steal a bloody fortune off Waitrose -- just by shop lifting a pasty. 😮
Shocking behaviour from representatives of a company that cares about brand recognition. Any response from the Waitrose PR team about this yet? Please keep your viewers informed of any further developments.
"Where's the canteen, I'm hungreh" 👌😆
Part of the LAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OBEY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Poor chap, trying to do the right thing, although completely wrong, but grossly undertrained by Waitrose 😮
Great video DJ and your shadow, at the end, was very entertaining. 🙂
Silly Sausages😂😂😂
Ol' Noddy does make you laugh...worth watching twice, keep up the good work DJ 🤓
Got the reaction you wanted - well done.
😅 Why are these security guards not being reported 😮😮😮
This pair of muppets have not a clue about anything. Anybody it seems can be a security guard intelligent or not.
I watched it first time around, had forgotten what a poor image the security gave of Waitrose, but done to watching again, I have been reminded
Thanks for the reupload, tbh I haven’t seen this episode.
hi dj, this video was hilarious!
many thanks for the re-up.
kind regards.
I hope you learned something, DJ. We certainly did…
we learned security are mental...
I think you're great DJ because you always keep your cool and explain so well when dealing with complete numpties unaware of the law ❤
Well if it's the law, why is he working as a laborer and not working as a Solicitor? When you are quoted the law, ask to see the law license DJ.
I'd just say to him then build a wall around to stop naughty photons reflecting off your property.
This made me lol. Anyone gets given a management position these days with only half the knowledge they need to be in that position.
I think you have been very generous saying that he’s got half the knowledge!
DJ: "ok, here is the gov't page, the law, the section, Must be displayed"
Security: "Nuh-uuh!"
DJ: *facepalms*
Viewers: *facepalms*
Universe: *facepalms*
And the security guard still doesn’t understand!
back to work!!!
I’m addicted to dj audits
Stan&ollie lol, you couldnt make this stuff up could you!..... Walking up to YOU in public and asking you not to bother them🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Boy all these companies SURE BRAINWASH thier 'Security Staff' into believing a lot of stuff is illegal?(sigh)... but ive always wondered IF the same companies will BACK UP LEGALLY any hired security who might put 'Hands On' anyone?(Not likely if its not written in blood?)
It was interesting to watch twitchy getting twitchier as he began to realise he's not as important as he thought he was.
Love how u bring up drone later in the vid it really seems to set them off checks guy keep it up
Suspicious opinions feelings private and your point is that's right it means nothing.😂😅😂
Remember the original was much longer but this is still a good watch.
So sure of himself. But not a bad guy - overall calm and not aggressive. Just wrong a few times
Another classic DJ 😊love it ❤keep up the amazing content, it’s makes my day ‘sticking it back to the man!’ 😅
I feel bad for that Enormous Security Guard. You can tell he wasn't comfortable getting into an argument with you.
He would be far happier inside on a packing line.
🤣 they make it up as they go along, they deserve an oscar for creativity
Why do security think thay are always right. Even tho there wrong. Hopefully a bit of retraining comes to people like him
Nothing makes these guys want to run away faster than when DJ pulls out the laws on the CAA or GOV websites.
It's like it burns their eyes or something.
Security get their asses handed to them and still keep going 🤦♂️🤦♂️…Sack these muppets
I love it when they get a second outing 🤣
Can't blame the guard. His manager has taught him all the wrong stuff.
Shameful management, that.
Love it when you flip the argument and hold them to account. Waitrose will hate this!
I wonder how many people are reminded to hit the like button when you say “get back to work!” 😂
Excellent approach by DJ! 👊🏼
Shameful that they don't let you keep the original video up
Thus SIA operative is OUT of his area of work and you should take his number from his badge and report his
He is putting ALL of the SIA security personnel in a BAD LIGHT, I personally was 9 yrs in security and never had a problem but this guy needs investigating and at least reporting
It should be against the law for security to advise members of the public on non existent laws.
Well and truly owned. Great work.
"i think i think".... i think that's his first problem.
Keep posting it. I'll keep liking it!
7:10 The wording says "licensable ACTIVITY" not licensed premises. This guy is incompetent. He is also stupid and refuses to understand the law around his job. Does he not understand that breaking the law that covers his job, he is committing a criminal act. Not many jobs have laws that govern them, but being a security guard does. So follow the law or become a criminal.
Suspicious is one of the most abused words in the English language. When the presumed security guard tells DJ that he is investigating suspicious activity, what he really means is that DJ's activities arouse feelings of suspicion in him. So, in reality, the presumed security guard is the suspicious person.
Security has got the Del Boy twitch
I've been watching DJ since 8000 subs. This is one of his best performances.
Recruitment and training needs looking at HR non existent
I am just amazed how they don't know the law, and also don't know that they have to have the license.
Upload. Did Waitrose Bosses take action. The 2 security were poorly trained. It was like the blind leading the blind. I like Waitrose I hope they were not the reason for the Upload
Well worth the reupload ... even if someone sulked about something at the original begining.
(We know was it was) Haha
The two fools get to perform again ... well done Waitrose.
Guess which delivery I will not be using !