Its understandable that Cyan did not open anymore com channels after this but I would have loved to have Gaia and her in communication with each other in the following game. Also Cyan states she has a lot of literature that would benefit mankind.
Interesting fact. Anita Sandoval created Cyan. Sobeck and Anita worked together on Gia. Cyan may be in dlc to come or horizon 3. The return of Cyan is inevitable. I'd like to see horizon 3 play grounds simply be both maps from hzd and hfw.
@@davincisdemons3126 I feel like the line we got in Horizon Forbidden West and just kinda the whole vibe of this game's treatment of things this round says Cyan won't return, but it would be sick. And yeah, combining maps is a huge demand amongst players. Soo much work on Guerilla though probably updated Zero Dawn map.
Unelss theres one in forbidden west and if there is don't tell me cuase spoilers I think she's the only known ai we've encountered that isn't problematic I mean you could count gaia but she blew up up a mountain sooooooo
Fun fact: In Horizon Forbidden west, Aloy will metion about Cyan and she wanted to connect with her, but GAIA told us she cant find her because she have blocked signals. I really wanted cyan in my base.. I like this AI from dlc
it has other responsibilities. those like GAIA are enough. but, if guerrilla wants to anyways *which they should but Stubbornly not wanting that to happen. same questionable part like how the character Talanah just....bail out too quickly.* *but Erend is here? another similarly high ranked meridian agent so far from the Sundom.* (even though the interactions between him and the players aren't....as high fluid as some of us wanted to expect).
:) Just FYI, the whole conversation (except the first sentences about CYAN and the Banuk, is common if you complete the DLC after discovering all the Gaia stuff.
Also, if you do FW as a whole at that point, the Banuk Shaman that upgrades your spear has (slightly) different dialogue. On my second play through I went there asap to get that coil slot on my spear, and noticed that the dialogue had changed.
@@TSotP yup... also if you do everything with Sylens before entering meridian, Aloy has Everything to say the moment she meets Avad. She talks about the looming shadow mission immediately, however has to get to Ersa first so the whole dialog happens... it's going to be my next video. But it'll be a moment.
Whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let's get to taking out their command, one by one. Valus Ta'aurc. From what I can gather he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank outside of Rubicon.
My mind always goes back to the character he played in the sci-fi show "Fringe". Sylens is a very similar character to that other character who's name I unfortunately can't remember...
@@ciphymasterofmedia9104 lmao killjoy missing the point of the comment, obviously the writers would set up the sequel. OP was pointing out how in-game, CYAN the character was correctly predicting what would happen next in the story given the current lore ;;;
@@daepappy why would it matter that it was correctly predicting? My point was that there was nothing to predict. The set up was already there and Cyan is just there to expand on it. Horizon is a pretty straightforward game.
Well if anyone has played Forbidden West and read the description. A little spoiler ahead It isn't completely far off from the truth. Sylens of course is not after Omega clearance, he just wants Apollo so he can learn more. Not the grandest of goals but man does he take the wackiest ways to get what he wants. Forming 2 armies across 2 games just to read some books.
Well... Sylens goal in hfw IS to leave earth and get to the oddyssy to only later utilize Gia to seed life on another planet. As it rings true, he wanted to ESCAPE Nemesis and rebuild human civilization elsewhere. So... Sylens actually wanted to use Gia. Which means Aloy grabbing omega access WAS required to complete his overall goal. BUT... Gia had no hephestus... Why did Sylens stay!!! I have a video on Sylens specifically. With a theory in the description.
Yeah, it's a lot kinder not to say "your mother was brutally murdered by Ted Faro, he suffocated her and all her colleagues so they couldn't undo his evil, stupid plan."
@@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human S p o i l e r A l e r t She quite literally does exactly this to one of the new companions who's people practically worship The Old Ones
Yeah me too because CYAN has accepted that Anita (along with the rest) died, it’s nice the writers probably determined that Aloy would not be like “ I know you know Anita is dead given the time passing, but let me tell you exactly what happened to her in her actual last moments… *proceeds to explain the dark tragedy* ” that’d be pretty cruel of Aloy to do as it would tarnish and worsen Cyan’s mourning. I’d like to assume if Cyan would be able to reconnect to the world again through the remaining technology and during the process of resurrecting Gaia, CYAN would be able to discover the specifics of Anita’s death. The only gain from that would be for Cyan to begin the process to rebuild APOLLO and recover the erased history to not only honor her mother but also to spite what Ted had done to her mother and humanity.
@@BHRamsay worshipping the old ones is different than mourning a loved one/ an old one. For A.I and Humans, at least in this games depiction of emotional capability and world context
Cyan will be back by horizon 3 for sure. I'm still searching for more foreshadows to cyan in hfw. Cyan was mentioned however, seemed like a later day forshadow more than an any time soon foreshadow.
@@davincisdemons3126 I don't recall any foreshadowing of CYAN beyond Aloy asking GAIA about her. Be kinda cool to see GAIA act as a parental figure to the more child-like CYAN.
@Connor Lonergan Sylens plan to get Gia literally required Aloy to get the omega access... Sylens plan was to let Aloy do that part. Without that omega access, Sylens would've had no Gia. He knew Aloy would grab it. Everything Aloy did was going to be utilized by Sylens. He says this to her at the Zeniths base. So... Sylens plan regarding omega access was to allow Aloy to get it for him. Omega access was necessary
@Connor Lonergan yeah... and hephestus is required to make Gia efficient. I think Sylens is staying because hephustus is still required by end game. More than he's staying for the people.
@Connor Lonergan dude you're tripping... Sylens overall plan was to leave on the ship. Get to the Oddyssy. And run from Nemesis with an intact GIAI. To utilize Gia on another planet entirely. In hzd Sylens plan ended... at Apollo. In hfw, Sylens was about to bounce. And it's a fact, huphestus is required for Sylens overall goal. But maybe Sylens is staying to fight nemesis. And for the first time has NO other motive.
@Connor Lonergan oh... so Sylens was Not planning on utilizing Gia in anyway. Sylens said he wanted to seed another planet with Gia. Start new somewhere else. Evade nemesis entirely. But... You're saying Sylens only Cared about Apollo. Replay the zenith base mission and listen to what Sylens says. I'm not theorizing. Hephestus being required for what his plan was, is fact. The only theory is that hephestus is why Sylens is staying. Everything else is in game fact. From hfw
This is rare? I got all of this dialog on my very first playthrough of this game....yes I didn't get into this series until forbidden west came along, but I never looked up spoilers, so the point still stands
You can talk to cyan twice. It's considered rare because this is the second conversation with cyan. At the end of the clip, sylens says farewell. Because this happens right before looming shadow. Most people don't go back.
and what makes them rare exactly all conversations with Cyan are available to everyone and i think Only the part where Sylens speak with Aloy is gone can't remember exactly if you play it after the main story
Simple enough u need the Lance from sylens before these questions open up. Without that Lance, you gotta go back for these questions. So it's rarity is determined by game progress. But some ppl could easily miss these questions entirely.
'it would seemed that your time among the banuk wasn't a Waste after all: 'FIREBREAK', 'CYAN', 'HEPHAESTUS'....all very, interesting.' -- Sylens. last mission's dialoguing with Aloy shortly after Aratak left back at central Cut, and just before those roaming fireclaw unit quest hunts.
@@davincisdemons3126 well....I could not described that part fully from my own memory currently. unfortunately. if I could not type it down here on time, well, best to try to check it out for oneself right now. it was on the last part after speaking to Aratak on the ancient old one era data center. it cannot be hard to find. davinci. everyone. well, one example would be on galm's playlist of H1:ZD/H1ZD:TFW from back then. on his last episode part, at the ending Minutes. ignore about the commentary of the channel and just focused on those subtitles of Sylens' and Aloy's. that should be fine for now.
@@davincisdemons3126 I hope so too, because he loses if Earth is destroyed, as well. Plus it would be pretty badass to be teamed up with him properly. Riding in on a fleet of machines 😂 😂 😂
@@littlered6340 yeah the potential is severe so to merge hephestus with Gia is basically losing an entire ai character. And Gia has code from hephestus from when they merged. So Gia can utilize that code and Apollo to fix earth. While sylens stated hephestus may not be needed at all. So gia flirted the idea of hephestus staying free for a while at the least. But what sylens said further promotes our hopes to see hephestus as an ally. Maybe hephestus will merge with cyan in a more friendly manner.
i dont exactly remember this conversation but granted i haven't played fhd in a good bit and the last time i did i was at the grave hoard off onto other things
@@davincisdemons3126 It's the story mission from the DLC (on Steam there is no DLC), and there are two points at the end: -talk to Cyan -talk to Artok With exactly this very common conversation, that is so RARE to you. It says it right there in the mission objectives, just try to read. You shouldn't have skipped elementary school.
@@tdome3000 listen troll... I said what I said. You pretended DLC don't exist because you play on steam. Aside from your bs, it is truly a missable cinematic. Take your tiny hate somewhere else.
back in the horizon verse and world (Earth, old one era): who needs those far cry era Physical systems when you have SAO levels of AR viewings now!~ at any case. some Lore of the old one era video games-related section also having some 'VR grips' or something and one's own personal holorooms, to accompany with the early Focus interfaces' capabilities. if any remembers.
Why is the conversation rare? Just want to know so I don't miss it. Haven't watched the video, because of the spoilers, but I saved it for later viewing.
You can approach this dialog in 2 ways. 1. More cinematical... do the frozen wilds before completing every mission with Sylens. There is a point of no return in the story so that's a good place to head towards the frozen wilds. In this situation, you'll complete the frozen wilds and will have to come back to the cut AFTER every mission involving Sylens (Gia prime is the last one). So option 1 is to come back to Cyan for these questions to open up. 2. Less cinematical for the story. Finish Gia prime before completing the frozen wilds. And once you reach Cyan, every question will open up without needing to come back. Keep in mind, every side mission must be found! So explore every area. Especially if it looks like a settlement. You'll need to be lvl 40 to approach the frozen wilds so do every side mission you can if you want to go to the cut before the point of no return.
@@davincisdemons3126 is that lvl 40 in normal difficulty? I'll assume on UH I should be on lvl 55-60, then. (Yeah, I started the first run through on UH. When I hit NG+ it should be a cakewalk.)
@@Crisper_von_Doom all you want for ultra are the weapons from frozen wilds. And 1 of the weapons from the lodge is better than the frozen wilds weapon (blast sling). And with that, ultra is easy enough but u still take damage without the banuk suits with special weave attachments... frozen wilds cauldron is still difficult no matter what weapons you use.
@@davincisdemons3126 I'm actually planning on getting there right off for the spear upgrade. Not sure what other weapons open up when you do the dlc, but I have noticed that new and powerful weapons arrive in sync with major story advancement.
Essentially, if you don't get sylens Lance before doing the frozen wilds, then this dialog is what's left to come back to if you finish frozen wilds first. It's simply possible to miss.
Well in order for the last set of questions to open up with Cyan, you must get the Lance from Sylens first, at Gia prime. So it's rarity is determined by how much game is complete before finishing the frozen wilds. Sometimes people go through the story and finish frozen wilds before Sylens gives Aloy the Lance. Anyone in that boat would have to come back to Cyan before looming shadow, after the Lance was received at Gia prime, to open the final set of questions for Cyan. Having to come back makes it rare. But people who don't do all the side missions first will usually get to the frozen wilds late enough in the game to have every question open with Cyan because you should be level 40 to walk into the frozen wilds.
@@davincisdemons3126 ohhh okay, yeah I finished the side quests and hunting grounds, finished the story mode and then proceeded to completed frozen wilds. At that point I already had the lance
It's rarity is determined by how far someone is in the game. Meaning if you don't get the Lance from Sylens before speaking with Cyan, then you'll have to come back to Cyan after getting the Lance... These are only the questions that open up after getting Sylens Lance. So it's rare enough.
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Its understandable that Cyan did not open anymore com channels after this but I would have loved to have Gaia and her in communication with each other in the following game. Also Cyan states she has a lot of literature that would benefit mankind.
@Connor Lonergan I really hope so!
Interesting fact. Anita Sandoval created Cyan. Sobeck and Anita worked together on Gia. Cyan may be in dlc to come or horizon 3. The return of Cyan is inevitable.
I'd like to see horizon 3 play grounds simply be both maps from hzd and hfw.
@@davincisdemons3126 I feel like the line we got in Horizon Forbidden West and just kinda the whole vibe of this game's treatment of things this round says Cyan won't return, but it would be sick.
And yeah, combining maps is a huge demand amongst players. Soo much work on Guerilla though probably updated Zero Dawn map.
@@theexurian1079 true story. But Cyan was briefly mentioned once. So she's still relevant I'd assume. But we don't know.
@Connor Lonergan the 3rd game could have that interaction.
Cyan: One of the few unproblematic AI’s in the Horizon games.
Cyan is awesome.
Unelss theres one in forbidden west and if there is don't tell me cuase spoilers I think she's the only known ai we've encountered that isn't problematic I mean you could count gaia but she blew up up a mountain sooooooo
@@baileyjerman5573 You’re right. Correction: The only unproblematic AI lol
I hope CYAN returns at some point.
The only A.I affected were the gaia subfunctions
Fun fact: In Horizon Forbidden west, Aloy will metion about Cyan and she wanted to connect with her, but GAIA told us she cant find her because she have blocked signals. I really wanted cyan in my base.. I like this AI from dlc
I think Aloy will need to travel to Cyan and inform her of Gaia's return. Cyan is probably blocking the signals out of fear from Hephaestus.
it has other responsibilities. those like GAIA are enough.
but, if guerrilla wants to anyways *which they should but Stubbornly not wanting that to happen. same questionable part like how the character Talanah just....bail out too quickly.*
*but Erend is here? another similarly high ranked meridian agent so far from the Sundom.* (even though the interactions between him and the players aren't....as high fluid as some of us wanted to expect).
@@CardSearcher911 yes....the machine/etc-builder SUBMIND is still out there. not in Human control.
Makes sense. Last time she interact with an anomalous signal, she was literally infected with virus.
:) Just FYI, the whole conversation (except the first sentences about CYAN and the Banuk, is common if you complete the DLC after discovering all the Gaia stuff.
Just need the Lance from Sylens before reaching cyan.
Also, if you do FW as a whole at that point, the Banuk Shaman that upgrades your spear has (slightly) different dialogue. On my second play through I went there asap to get that coil slot on my spear, and noticed that the dialogue had changed.
@@TSotP yup... also if you do everything with Sylens before entering meridian, Aloy has Everything to say the moment she meets Avad. She talks about the looming shadow mission immediately, however has to get to Ersa first so the whole dialog happens... it's going to be my next video. But it'll be a moment.
I forgot Lance Reddick voiced Sylens, so when I heard him here I was almost expecting him to discuss the war with the Cabal on Mars
Whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let's get to taking out their command, one by one. Valus Ta'aurc. From what I can gather he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank outside of Rubicon.
He's also the only voice actor that looks like his character in horizon.
How do you forget that? His face is used for the character as well as his voice.
@@davincisdemons3126 I dunno, I think Erend's VA looks fairly like him (albeit a bit slimmer)
My mind always goes back to the character he played in the sci-fi show "Fringe".
Sylens is a very similar character to that other character who's name I unfortunately can't remember...
CYAN predicted the Forbidden West plotline with dealimg with bringing GAIA and her Sub-functions together.
Not so much a prediction than the writers setting up for a sequel. It was already kinda obvious what the next game would end up being about.
@@ciphymasterofmedia9104 Yeah, it was more so a joke, I should have specified. 😅
@@ciphymasterofmedia9104 lmao killjoy missing the point of the comment, obviously the writers would set up the sequel. OP was pointing out how in-game, CYAN the character was correctly predicting what would happen next in the story given the current lore ;;;
@@daepappy why would it matter that it was correctly predicting? My point was that there was nothing to predict. The set up was already there and Cyan is just there to expand on it. Horizon is a pretty straightforward game.
@@ciphymasterofmedia9104 indeed. some pre-H2:FW theories, if not Most of them speaking the same anyways.
Well if anyone has played Forbidden West and read the description. A little spoiler ahead
It isn't completely far off from the truth. Sylens of course is not after Omega clearance, he just wants Apollo so he can learn more. Not the grandest of goals but man does he take the wackiest ways to get what he wants. Forming 2 armies across 2 games just to read some books.
Well... Sylens goal in hfw IS to leave earth and get to the oddyssy to only later utilize Gia to seed life on another planet. As it rings true, he wanted to ESCAPE Nemesis and rebuild human civilization elsewhere.
So... Sylens actually wanted to use Gia. Which means Aloy grabbing omega access WAS required to complete his overall goal. BUT... Gia had no hephestus...
Why did Sylens stay!!! I have a video on Sylens specifically. With a theory in the description.
Basically, without hephestus merged with Gia, Sylens plan to leave and teraform another planet simply wouldn't work...
Casually mentions a subfunction of the next game, Demeter
In some ways I'm glad we can't inform CYAN about Anita's ultimate fate. (If she was an Alpha, she likely died with the rest of them)
Yeah, it's a lot kinder not to say "your mother was brutally murdered by Ted Faro, he suffocated her and all her colleagues so they couldn't undo his evil, stupid plan."
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She quite literally does exactly this to one of the new companions who's people practically worship The Old Ones
Yeah me too because CYAN has accepted that Anita (along with the rest) died, it’s nice the writers probably determined that Aloy would not be like “ I know you know Anita is dead given the time passing, but let me tell you exactly what happened to her in her actual last moments… *proceeds to explain the dark tragedy* ” that’d be pretty cruel of Aloy to do as it would tarnish and worsen Cyan’s mourning.
I’d like to assume if Cyan would be able to reconnect to the world again through the remaining technology and during the process of resurrecting Gaia, CYAN would be able to discover the specifics of Anita’s death.
The only gain from that would be for Cyan to begin the process to rebuild APOLLO and recover the erased history to not only honor her mother but also to spite what Ted had done to her mother and humanity.
@@BHRamsay worshipping the old ones is different than mourning a loved one/ an old one. For A.I and Humans, at least in this games depiction of emotional capability and world context
@@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human true, but I would love more people in the "Ted Faro is the worst" crowd. Especially more AI.
Just watched the entire game and dlc and was hoping someone uploaded this. Thank you.
Yeah it's easy to miss or forget.
Man what the hell that's quite the description
I love the continuity and world building in these games. Really do hope we see CYAN again after the events of Forbidden West.
Cyan will be back by horizon 3 for sure. I'm still searching for more foreshadows to cyan in hfw. Cyan was mentioned however, seemed like a later day forshadow more than an any time soon foreshadow.
@@davincisdemons3126 I don't recall any foreshadowing of CYAN beyond Aloy asking GAIA about her. Be kinda cool to see GAIA act as a parental figure to the more child-like CYAN.
Your description ended up being pretty close.
@Connor Lonergan True, but having a 80% correct take is pretty good.
@Connor Lonergan Sylens plan to get Gia literally required Aloy to get the omega access... Sylens plan was to let Aloy do that part.
Without that omega access, Sylens would've had no Gia. He knew Aloy would grab it.
Everything Aloy did was going to be utilized by Sylens. He says this to her at the Zeniths base.
So... Sylens plan regarding omega access was to allow Aloy to get it for him.
Omega access was necessary
@Connor Lonergan yeah... and hephestus is required to make Gia efficient.
I think Sylens is staying because hephustus is still required by end game. More than he's staying for the people.
@Connor Lonergan dude you're tripping... Sylens overall plan was to leave on the ship. Get to the Oddyssy. And run from Nemesis with an intact GIAI. To utilize Gia on another planet entirely.
In hzd Sylens plan ended... at Apollo. In hfw, Sylens was about to bounce. And it's a fact, huphestus is required for Sylens overall goal.
But maybe Sylens is staying to fight nemesis. And for the first time has NO other motive.
@Connor Lonergan oh... so Sylens was Not planning on utilizing Gia in anyway.
Sylens said he wanted to seed another planet with Gia. Start new somewhere else. Evade nemesis entirely. But... You're saying Sylens only Cared about Apollo.
Replay the zenith base mission and listen to what Sylens says.
I'm not theorizing. Hephestus being required for what his plan was, is fact.
The only theory is that hephestus is why Sylens is staying. Everything else is in game fact. From hfw
This is rare? I got all of this dialog on my very first playthrough of this game....yes I didn't get into this series until forbidden west came along, but I never looked up spoilers, so the point still stands
You can talk to cyan twice. It's considered rare because this is the second conversation with cyan.
At the end of the clip, sylens says farewell. Because this happens right before looming shadow. Most people don't go back.
If you finish the main story before the dlc the pacing is a bit off
and what makes them rare exactly all conversations with Cyan are available to everyone and i think Only the part where Sylens speak with Aloy is gone can't remember exactly if you play it after the main story
Simple enough u need the Lance from sylens before these questions open up. Without that Lance, you gotta go back for these questions. So it's rarity is determined by game progress. But some ppl could easily miss these questions entirely.
'it would seemed that your time among the banuk wasn't a Waste after all: 'FIREBREAK', 'CYAN', 'HEPHAESTUS'....all very, interesting.' -- Sylens. last mission's dialoguing with Aloy shortly after Aratak left back at central Cut, and just before those roaming fireclaw unit quest hunts.
Good call out
@@davincisdemons3126 well....I could not described that part fully from my own memory currently. unfortunately.
if I could not type it down here on time, well, best to try to check it out for oneself right now. it was on the last part after speaking to Aratak on the ancient old one era data center. it cannot be hard to find. davinci. everyone.
well, one example would be on galm's playlist of H1:ZD/H1ZD:TFW from back then. on his last episode part, at the ending Minutes. ignore about the commentary of the channel and just focused on those subtitles of Sylens' and Aloy's. that should be fine for now.
@@CaptainPilipinas it happens after exiting the final cyan talk. It happened right after this cinematic
Didn't know this was rare but this conversation alone is the reason I haven't been mad at ol' Hep this entire time
I think hephestus is planning to fight nemesis... after all, hades knew about nemesis
@@davincisdemons3126 I hope so too, because he loses if Earth is destroyed, as well. Plus it would be pretty badass to be teamed up with him properly. Riding in on a fleet of machines 😂 😂 😂
@@littlered6340 yeah the potential is severe so to merge hephestus with Gia is basically losing an entire ai character. And Gia has code from hephestus from when they merged. So Gia can utilize that code and Apollo to fix earth. While sylens stated hephestus may not be needed at all.
So gia flirted the idea of hephestus staying free for a while at the least. But what sylens said further promotes our hopes to see hephestus as an ally.
Maybe hephestus will merge with cyan in a more friendly manner.
i dont exactly remember this conversation but granted i haven't played fhd in a good bit and the last time i did i was at the grave hoard off onto other things
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Has Aloy always been this muscular? Wow
spending several hours per day drawing a bow will do that to you.
This is the normal conversation that you get when playing the story missions, you genius.
No, this is from DLC missions, genius! And it CAN BE MISSED. Enjoy your life, little one!
@@davincisdemons3126 It's the story mission from the DLC (on Steam there is no DLC), and there are two points at the end:
-talk to Cyan
-talk to Artok
With exactly this very common conversation, that is so RARE to you.
It says it right there in the mission objectives, just try to read. You shouldn't have skipped elementary school.
@@tdome3000 listen troll... I said what I said. You pretended DLC don't exist because you play on steam. Aside from your bs, it is truly a missable cinematic. Take your tiny hate somewhere else.
It's Nemesis.
Yo you predicted it all
Hephaestus was activated by NEMESIS lol
Maybe he knows he was activated by nemesis
I fricking love this game and I find the Frozen Wilds rather intresting
this is really cool
Sylens: you will have to deal with this when the ps5 finally drops, although you may not be able to find one Aloy
back in the horizon verse and world (Earth, old one era): who needs those far cry era Physical systems when you have SAO levels of AR viewings now!~
at any case. some Lore of the old one era video games-related section also having some 'VR grips' or something and one's own personal holorooms, to accompany with the early Focus interfaces' capabilities. if any remembers.
Why is the conversation rare? Just want to know so I don't miss it. Haven't watched the video, because of the spoilers, but I saved it for later viewing.
You can approach this dialog in 2 ways.
1. More cinematical... do the frozen wilds before completing every mission with Sylens. There is a point of no return in the story so that's a good place to head towards the frozen wilds.
In this situation, you'll complete the frozen wilds and will have to come back to the cut AFTER every mission involving Sylens (Gia prime is the last one).
So option 1 is to come back to Cyan for these questions to open up.
2. Less cinematical for the story. Finish Gia prime before completing the frozen wilds. And once you reach Cyan, every question will open up without needing to come back.
Keep in mind, every side mission must be found! So explore every area. Especially if it looks like a settlement. You'll need to be lvl 40 to approach the frozen wilds so do every side mission you can if you want to go to the cut before the point of no return.
@@davincisdemons3126 is that lvl 40 in normal difficulty? I'll assume on UH I should be on lvl 55-60, then. (Yeah, I started the first run through on UH. When I hit NG+ it should be a cakewalk.)
@@Crisper_von_Doom all you want for ultra are the weapons from frozen wilds. And 1 of the weapons from the lodge is better than the frozen wilds weapon (blast sling). And with that, ultra is easy enough but u still take damage without the banuk suits with special weave attachments... frozen wilds cauldron is still difficult no matter what weapons you use.
@@davincisdemons3126 I'm actually planning on getting there right off for the spear upgrade. Not sure what other weapons open up when you do the dlc, but I have noticed that new and powerful weapons arrive in sync with major story advancement.
@@Crisper_von_Doom I'm about to stream looming shadow. You can see the weapons if you want. I'll show them.
I don't remember this. Is it Frozen Wilds???
Yes
Ok but that horrendous outfit though
@@Red_Rebel that's the stealth suit. Cyan barely saw me.
What flashpoint did you pick with cyan?
I don't know what you mean
@@davincisdemons3126 Which one was it?
@@Luke-ky5ed what is a Flashpoint
@@davincisdemons3126 I sent you the link. Did you even see it?
@@Luke-ky5ed nope
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Why is Aloy wearing a mask? Another outfit? Or covid? 😂🤣
It's the stealth suit. But I wanna say it's because of covid. I only use stealth suits because I can walk right by machines.
Why "rare" if I may ask? Did so few people finish the questline?
Essentially, if you don't get sylens Lance before doing the frozen wilds, then this dialog is what's left to come back to if you finish frozen wilds first.
It's simply possible to miss.
How to get back to Cyan.?
She's in the same place. Oureas spot. But you must have sylens Lance for these questions to pop up. Which is the Gia prime mission.
How is it rare if you don’t mind me asking
Well in order for the last set of questions to open up with Cyan, you must get the Lance from Sylens first, at Gia prime. So it's rarity is determined by how much game is complete before finishing the frozen wilds.
Sometimes people go through the story and finish frozen wilds before Sylens gives Aloy the Lance. Anyone in that boat would have to come back to Cyan before looming shadow, after the Lance was received at Gia prime, to open the final set of questions for Cyan.
Having to come back makes it rare.
But people who don't do all the side missions first will usually get to the frozen wilds late enough in the game to have every question open with Cyan because you should be level 40 to walk into the frozen wilds.
@@davincisdemons3126 ohhh okay, yeah I finished the side quests and hunting grounds, finished the story mode and then proceeded to completed frozen wilds. At that point I already had the lance
Damn pretty neet
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Man the voice acting was bad in this game compared to HFW, Aloy sounds so bored and monotone
They cleaned up hfw really well.
Rare??? Lol no.
It's rarity is determined by how far someone is in the game. Meaning if you don't get the Lance from Sylens before speaking with Cyan, then you'll have to come back to Cyan after getting the Lance...
These are only the questions that open up after getting Sylens Lance. So it's rare enough.