Most of the time, it’s a night and day comparison on who is part of the main cast in games and who is a part of side content... In HFW you genuinely cannot tell sometimes because of the level of quality across the board
@@CaptainSimon142 yes and i think they do this on purpose also. its not that the devs don't want some extra detail in the faces you see the most, but i think they on purpose make it even foor all the npc's and characters so they blend well.
I really like that they put a lot of focus into the facial expressions this time. They felt a bit uncanny-valley in the first game, but they look incredibly realistic here! I admit some are a little exaggerated, but for the most part I'd say they're quite well balanced
I thought the animations in Horizon 1 were fine. They were polished for what they were and roughly on par with other action RPGs like Mass Effect or Dragon Age. But these animations are so good, they pretty much trump all other action RPGs.
@@ThePreciseClimber there was a real jump in the Frozen Wilds DLC. You can tell that they really got into their groove for those and that continued to Forbidden West
also some minor details, if you play mostly on daytime and in hot places, Aloy will have a much red-ish/rashes face due to sunburn/heat. but if you play on nighttime, she'll have less red-ish face. and if you're in a cold/snowy place, her skin will be dry and her lips will turn pale.
Another detail I often see is: while flying a bird flies by your side. And it depends on the biome, what bird is flying by your side. May Not be such a huge Detail, but i really love this
Aloy has rosacea on her face. It's not sunburn or rash, it's a different skin condition and (speaking from personal experience) it does get worse if you are exposed to the sun. It is an amazing detail and it was very cool to see.
More details I've noticed: - You can jump on a mount instead of pressing Square, if you're high enough. - Aloy will shake herself off when she gets out of the water (like in HZD) - Some birds (geese, owls and pelicans) will sometimes fly alongside your Sunwing. - Snapmaws sometimes scratch the ground, like real crocs do. - NPCs will react if you run into them. - I think puddles evaporate after a while, but I'm not sure.
Your channel really deserves more attention. It's not just the beauty of the game, but how you put together all the details in a way that keeps us wanting to see more! By the way, I follow you since those amazing videos of RDR2. o Champion o.
8:35 In computer graphics, we call that subsurface scattering. It's an incredibly hard effect to get right, and is usually the tiniest little detail from making a CGI human appear photorealistic. Next time you see an uncanny-valley-looking human, check for this effect: It's super hard to notice when it's not there, but our brains pick up on it subconsciously, and the humans end up looking like plastic to us. You can clearly notice this between Toy Story 2 and 3. Obviously, there are so many rendering technique differences between those movies, but individually identifying them is very difficult. This is one of the largest deal breakers. So happy to see it in a video game. I've never seen it before.
Weird that you never saw it in other games, it's there in other games as well. Granted, it's not widely adopted because what you said, it's super hard to get it right but I'm positive there are some other games with it. Yeah, probably very few at the level of Horizon but they do exist.
Red Dead Redemption 2, the newer Assassin's Creed games, Spiderman (I believe?), Ghost of Tsushima, even GTA 5 has it to some degree but it's much less convincing in that... Many games have the effect, with varying levels of realism I'd say Horizon Forbidden West and Red Dead 2 pull it off most convincingly though out of the ones I've mentioned
@@samixalam_ Yep, since last year I've been informed that many other games have used the effect, and with a simple texture trick nonetheless, so it's not _that_ difficult to do (but still difficult to do _right)._ That's my bad. HFW is still one of the best looking examples though.
I love how you can see the benefits of sharing an engine with Kojima Productions. When Aloy is climbing or sliding down steep surfaces whether crouching or standing it reminds me so much of Sam Porter Bridges himself. Love the teamwork between the 2 studios.
This right here. Decima went to KJP, there was so much in common between HZD and Death Stranding in terms of feels and handling. Now Decima has come home and we see new features from KJP implemented by Guerrilla Games such as the Focus Scan
@@Games-zx8ug yes..so immersive, as you use a skill point and back out, only for everything to pop into existence, so immersive to turn the camera around and gather loot off a charger only for the charger to pop into existence, so immersive to go to your stash and back out only for reality to load into existence, so nice to watch a cutscene and have to pause it Everytime the scene changes or a character pops up because the textures won't load, ugh..you get my point, they don't care about us poor people on PS4, they even stopped updating it as soon as BS for the PS5 came out, the support for the PS4 version of forbidden west is ended, so we're stuck with any glitches and texture popin forever until we can get a PS5 for less than 100 bucks. So immersive. Greedy a$$ companies.
I love how realistic the animation is when Aloy shakes her hands while climbing- it kind of makes you realise how strong she is, casually holding on by one hand
God, imagine how the next Naughty Dog game will look like. I mean this is an open world game so imagine how a linear game would look like. I can’t wait
TLOU P2 already has realistic fingerprints and eyes/lashes and more on each character and very detailed realistic vines and infection. It's almost as if it can't be getting even better than it already is
You should look out for Rockstar and Kojima Productions since Death Stranding uses the same engine as Horizon. If Death Stranding looked that good in 2019 I can't even imagine how much better KJP's next game will look.
@@aadipie i don’t know about the future of rockstar. I have a strong feeling that their next games won’t be as detailed and breathtaking as before. So i think of red dead 2 as the last kiss goodbye from the the original team of writers and producers etc. But who knows, maybe I’m wrong and I hope I’m wrong and i hope they’ll continue to make top quality games that touch our hearts in the future.
One thing about this game is they didn't have to add any of these little details, could've just added new features, gameplay mechanics, etc, and it could've been a good game, but, like in the first game, they went above and beyond to add these little details that make the world we're playing in feel so much more realistic, definitely a huge goty contender for me, I love everything about this game. 😃
Having more gameplay features doesn't automatically makes it a better game, a lot of games have scrapped and unimplemented stuffs buried in their data and these things could get there because the devs think it doesn't fit with the overall design of the game or they can't implement it right with the budget and tech they have at hand. For example, these guys are more than likely capable of making Strombirds and Dreadwings mountable, but that would easily kill the entire point of developing and diversifying Aloy's combat options because players can just easily bombard the entire map. They will have to balance that out again somehow and develop a new measures to counter the obvious advantage and who knows how much brainstorming that would take to find a satisfying solution, and the amount of head scratching to get it right... Ideas for a implementable macro feature are not 1:1 transactional values with micro details. They probably set with the scope first and beautify it later, it's not like HFW didn't improve anything from HZD as it's WAY more packed and better designed in many department.
@@hansalanson3497 True, which is why I stated what I did, the little details in a game could be the difference between a game being just average, or a game potentially being a platform for all games in future to look at, and possibly take notes from, (like with TLOU 2, yes, the story was controversial for some people, but, the gameplay, world, graphic fidelity, and details made the game so much better). 😊
After two years of waiting for the PC release, I'm finally able to join you in the Forbidden West, and *holy crap* is it beautiful. The attention to detail is amazing. other things that went into the game: - they consulted with archaeologists to get the amount of weathering/decay on the buildings accurate - the sound designer recorded *hundreds* of different birds and other animals, and different environments have different wildlife sounds - all the different idling behaviors of the machines (firehorns will scratch themselves, fire/frostclaws will paw at the ground, clawstriders will shake themselves out, sunwings will turns and face the sun to sunbathe, etc. etc.) I've put in over 160 hours so far and haven't even finished the mainline quest of the main game, nevermind the Burning Shores. I'm spending all my time just exploring and taking it in.
It's crazy how we live in a day and age where THIS is a videogame, if you would've shown me this 20 years ago I thought the world ended and it was real life.
This is a flawless game. Been playing it on PS5 for weeks now and haven't seen a single frame of discoloration, lag, light flares...nothing! And on top of that, its absolutely breathtaking.
when I play Death Stranding, I knew Horizon Forbidden West is going to be a very beautiful game but man, I can't believe how amazing this game was, such details and effort they put in this game. this is a Masterpiece, if this game don't win GOTY, I'm going to lose hope in humanity.
I think the coolest detail, is the small face fuzz, small hairs all over the face and ears just like real life, like that's a detail that they could have easily left out. And also the corner of the eye, where it meets the nose.
Great video. Showing only the details with the games music in background and without commentary is just how i like it. Most of these details were also present in the first game HZD. I would like to see a video showing a comparison of these details between the games. Show the enhancement of the details, what has been improved and then show new details that are only present in the second game.
Came back to Zero Dawn a few days back. I guess I am somewhere in the middle of the game. I am amazed how good Zero Dawn looks on PS5 but Forbidden West looks like a next level. Will be happy to jump into it right when I finish the first game and with all the story freshly in my head. I like the atmosphere, too. The world overall, the music, it's dope. And it seems like it hasn't changed in Forbidden West.
“A lot of these were in the first game already”, yes but here things are greatly expanded. Tons more differing settlements to show off dynamic NPC’s working and chatting, the detail in the Utaru settlement is amazing with all the wickerwork and grown in moss, people farming and singing or sitting at ponds. Chainscrape itself has the coolest activity going on with multiple levels of detail on how the logs get to the saw-blade, with multiple NPC’s down the river using sticks to push them in the right direction, to where they finally get offloaded to a pile of cut logs by the end. Mounts have been diversified giving more unique mounting animations, as well as more combat options. And just the sheer graphical fidelity upgrades other already existing animations and details. It’s fine for existing details to already be in the first game, if they were absent here it would be pretty odd.
Two more things, my friend told me that if you fly too high, eventually Aloy will comment that its getting a little hard to breathe. I also found some of the Utaru playing Frizbee in Plainsong. I certainly learned a few new things from this video! Such insane detail! But so incredibly wonderful!
😊 Don't forget that the following features was already implemented in Horizon Zero Dawn: • on-machine Cauldron marks (even on Corruptors and Deathbringers which has no Cauldron, and the marks on them is the logo of Thebes in Horizon Forbidden West!) • Shell-walker cargo fixing • catching breath after run • shaking one hand when climbing • various mounting animations • idle reaction to weather • moving up and down on steep surfaces • damaged machine limps But these were developed around 2015. And these features are still years ahead many other developer companies. E.g. the 15-year old rudimentary character animation in the recently released Elden Ring. It's so irritating for my eyes that I can't get that game seriously, it ruined the show for me.
I somewhat disagree with your various mounting animations point. Striders, broadheads, and chargers are all mounted with the same animation, and I don’t think mounting from different directions changes the animation (besides possibly from behind. I don’t come at the mount from that direction enough to remember). But besides that, yeah, a lot of these were in Zero Dawn.
Dude that’s absolutely pathetic, you’re not playing a game because it doesn’t have 1200000fps 8k HDR and it’s an old animation. Elden Ring is a brilliant game and you should push through those “atrocities”. Not that HFW isn’t brilliant as well though.
@@Weir.721 That's quality, dude. Once you sat in a Tesla, it won't be the same to sit back into a Prius. Or a Renault Zoe. Or a Citroen C4. While all these cars are way better to drive than a 20-year old Suzuki Swift.
Look, I'm talking about tech quality. My eyes no longer eats low quality character animation. Your's do. (Is 'eyes' plural form?) Even Shadow of The Tomb Raider's character animation become too low quality for my eyes. Fortunately, I already played it through, 2-3 times.
Something I just found out now is that arrows break if you walk into them (I was shooting at a wall and walked into them get my stash). I think it only works with Aloy’s arrows but I haven’t tried it on any NPCs. This vid was good to watch as well!
12:10 Aloy still does not leave the uncanny valley for me, she looks like an animated character. The Amicia de Rune character model from "A Plague Tale" somehow manages to do facial expressions better; her eyes are fully alive, in many shots she looks photoreal.
Really? I’ve played both games and thought Amicia, while looking great didn’t look as realistic as aloy, the eyelashes kinda bugged me out, but to each their own, both look amazing
Finally a game as beautiful and detailed as Red Dead Redemption 2! I truly had an amazing time playing Horizon Forbidden West and even if i completed the story,i still have a lot of things to see and do in it! Great video Champion !
Awesome video showing the level of detail the creators went to, to produce this game. It amazes me still, even though I've played through it several times. There's always something I didn't notice or do the other times. That said, the machines having the cauldron logo on them was actually in the 1st game, too.
Incredible. The gaming industry has come a long way and its still growing. All these years and developers have accumulated a stockpile of data on how to make games and archives of tools and objects they can easily pick from to make things faster. Couple that with advancement in automated technology that simplifies the creation process. All this has allowed developers to focus all their budget on story telling, game mechanics and gameplay without technology bottlenecking their process.
I enjoy watching your videos keep it up I'm rooting for you all the way. And thank you for the 4k your videos are crisp n clean. Good stuff😎🤘🏽I get a sense of calmness and relaxation watching your videos.
I can spend hours just watching what NPCs are doing, especially kids. Utaru kids playing with Tallneck toys. Tenakth kids running up to a soldier (daddy?) to get a head pat. Makes my heart melt.
--Here's a detail I just found: you can knock snow off some of the small shrubs in snowy areas. I noticed it by mistake and then spent 5 minutes running through brush watching the snow come off. It's truly amazing. --There's a black box inside a settlement, and the NPC merchant nearby will say something like "I'm not giving you a discount for that!" when opening the vent behind him. --Using a glider in a settlement also prompts some amusing reaction dialogue from NPCs.
Thank you for this video, I've played Forbidden West game for over 100 hours and hadn't noticed many of these details; it's incredible the amount of work Guerrilla put in to make this game world feel so real
What a gorgeous video. While I have been playing it for a while now, I never took the time to soak in these intricate details. Thanks bud! Liked n subscribed!
I love the attention to detail in these games. I remember playing ZD and getting really excited, because she runs differently through deep snow than on regular ground. You never see this stuff in games.
Great vid but just a slight nitpick, for no. 9 it's not that there is less air resistance near the ground, it's actually the air closet to the ground is less turbulent as compared to the air high up in the sky
such a masterpiece! i usually sell my copy after finish the game, but imma keep this until i get my ps5 and play it again in bigger 4k tv to maximize the enjoyment!!
The wet weather effect isn't working anymore after 1.05 patch, when u get in the water and come out your equipment and Aloy remain dry, same for when it's raining :(
Hope fully they fix the water effect in aloy because she doesn't seem to get wet after the intro stage. Even when it rains other npc have droplets on their body or they do get wet but aloy stays dry
@@nextbigthingthebeastincarn7216 that's prolouge stage after that no more wet aloy trust me I'm playing it daily I have clips sent to guerilla you want me to send them to you too?
I hope the world in the new avatar game is even half as beautiful as this, obviously more bioluminescent and jungly tho. The details in this are astounding.
I like that if you pass through a settlement jumping or running NPCs will react, I heard phrases like "what's with the acrobatics?" or "no running, be respectful", I really like that.
my personal favourite was something else, when flying close above the water and making a turn, the sun/waterwing's wing is actually hitting the water surface and not just glitcing through. It will show a waterspash with sound. Such a small detail, but it makes the whole experience more "realistic"
The only issue I find is water animation and physics and that could be better but nonetheless it's truly a masterpiece and sets a benchmark for a next gen game.
Did you noticed? When a Chargers health is low it won't hurt you because it's scare of you. But i dont know if they are still aggresive on Very hard mode
Thanks for this video. These guys at Gorilla Games have done such an excellent job. You really just get lost in the beauty of this game, let alone everything else it has to offer
Other nice detail is when Aloy is walking (not running) through the tall bush (where she hides) she opens her arms and put her hands with palms down on bush like she’s feeling it.
These are just some of the few minor details on why I love games that have so much dedication in them, it's what make the world in the game so lively and realistic, no wonder why in games detailed as these there's still going to be something discovered in years
Another PlayStation game, another masterpiece equipped with awesome details!
Hope you enjoy the video as much as I enjoyed making it :)
looks lke we got ourselves a new potential red dead redemption game
Congrats on the video Knightz... u do an awesome job there with your videos bro
Keep up the good work
still great !
yes
I did
The NPCs having the same level of detail as Aloy stood out to me. You don't see that too often.
you will probably see that more often now depending on studio and engine
Most of the time, it’s a night and day comparison on who is part of the main cast in games and who is a part of side content... In HFW you genuinely cannot tell sometimes because of the level of quality across the board
Im playing HZD and i cant tell the difference between faces, instead in this game on cinematics there's clearly a better work on aloy expressions
rdr2 has it as well
@@CaptainSimon142 yes and i think they do this on purpose also. its not that the devs don't want some extra detail in the faces you see the most, but i think they on purpose make it even foor all the npc's and characters so they blend well.
The beauty of this game is unbelievable
For sure the best looking game I've played!
@@oKnightzo I love your channel, kisses from Brazil! 🙂🙃
@@oKnightzo cant wait for comparison with other games
To be more beautiful, its graphics have to be more complete and the interaction side should be hard worked more than anytime
@@oKnightzo do you play 4k 30fps or 1080p 60fps?
I really like that they put a lot of focus into the facial expressions this time. They felt a bit uncanny-valley in the first game, but they look incredibly realistic here! I admit some are a little exaggerated, but for the most part I'd say they're quite well balanced
Hahaha Focus
@@NastyHudson Oh... wow, that was not intentional haha, but I'm taking credit for it! WHOO!
I thought the animations in Horizon 1 were fine. They were polished for what they were and roughly on par with other action RPGs like Mass Effect or Dragon Age.
But these animations are so good, they pretty much trump all other action RPGs.
@@ThePreciseClimber there was a real jump in the Frozen Wilds DLC. You can tell that they really got into their groove for those and that continued to Forbidden West
Yes some of the facial expressions were so life like in the game. Especially Zo
also some minor details, if you play mostly on daytime and in hot places, Aloy will have a much red-ish/rashes face due to sunburn/heat.
but if you play on nighttime, she'll have less red-ish face. and if you're in a cold/snowy place, her skin will be dry and her lips will turn pale.
No freaking wayyyyy
noticed that aswell. my aloy was getting redder and redder when i was skipping night time in the desert
Another detail I often see is: while flying a bird flies by your side. And it depends on the biome, what bird is flying by your side. May Not be such a huge Detail, but i really love this
@@Voltaros this is a dope one indeed.
Aloy has rosacea on her face. It's not sunburn or rash, it's a different skin condition and (speaking from personal experience) it does get worse if you are exposed to the sun. It is an amazing detail and it was very cool to see.
More details I've noticed:
- You can jump on a mount instead of pressing Square, if you're high enough.
- Aloy will shake herself off when she gets out of the water (like in HZD)
- Some birds (geese, owls and pelicans) will sometimes fly alongside your Sunwing.
- Snapmaws sometimes scratch the ground, like real crocs do.
- NPCs will react if you run into them.
- I think puddles evaporate after a while, but I'm not sure.
the first one was also in HZD
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Yep. Doesn't work on a Sunwing for me, though :(
I used my glider in a settlement and one of the NPCs said "that was acrobatic!"
@@Lissbirds In Scalding Spear someone tells you "No jumping around"
In MGS:V the puddles evaporate. I think they use the same engine since they worked with Kojima’s team, so I wouldn’t doubt it.
This game really deserved an award, so underrated. Can't wait for the Dlc.
I love how the shell-walkers place the cargo back
work is their life
This is a detail present ever since Zero Dawn
Machines limping after being damaged was also present in the first game
not only them. Rollerbacks can do it too because they have the abbility to getting their removed parts back
They look so confused and awkward lmao
One of the greatest games ever! The attention to detail is amazing!
Yes elden ring is amazing
@@danielsinner8392 there both amazing, chill
@@danielsinner8392 you mean dark souls 4 with graphics from 2011?
@@danielsinner8392 not only elden ring fans is narcissist, but also illiterate and stupid.
RDR2 laughs at you feller.
Your channel really deserves more attention.
It's not just the beauty of the game, but how you put together all the details in a way that keeps us wanting to see more!
By the way, I follow you since those amazing videos of RDR2.
o Champion o.
Thanks dude, I really appreciate it, glad you like the vids!
Indeed.
That shell walker looks so cute when holding the cargo
8:35 In computer graphics, we call that subsurface scattering. It's an incredibly hard effect to get right, and is usually the tiniest little detail from making a CGI human appear photorealistic.
Next time you see an uncanny-valley-looking human, check for this effect: It's super hard to notice when it's not there, but our brains pick up on it subconsciously, and the humans end up looking like plastic to us.
You can clearly notice this between Toy Story 2 and 3. Obviously, there are so many rendering technique differences between those movies, but individually identifying them is very difficult. This is one of the largest deal breakers.
So happy to see it in a video game. I've never seen it before.
I was blown away when I saw the subsurface scattering. I'm trying to imagine the effort that went in to making this possible.
@@Lissbirds A lot...
Weird that you never saw it in other games, it's there in other games as well. Granted, it's not widely adopted because what you said, it's super hard to get it right but I'm positive there are some other games with it.
Yeah, probably very few at the level of Horizon but they do exist.
Red Dead Redemption 2, the newer Assassin's Creed games, Spiderman (I believe?), Ghost of Tsushima, even GTA 5 has it to some degree but it's much less convincing in that... Many games have the effect, with varying levels of realism
I'd say Horizon Forbidden West and Red Dead 2 pull it off most convincingly though out of the ones I've mentioned
@@samixalam_ Yep, since last year I've been informed that many other games have used the effect, and with a simple texture trick nonetheless, so it's not _that_ difficult to do (but still difficult to do _right)._ That's my bad. HFW is still one of the best looking examples though.
I love how you can see the benefits of sharing an engine with Kojima Productions. When Aloy is climbing or sliding down steep surfaces whether crouching or standing it reminds me so much of Sam Porter Bridges himself. Love the teamwork between the 2 studios.
reminder that guerilla created the engine, and kojima borrowed it.
This right here. Decima went to KJP, there was so much in common between HZD and Death Stranding in terms of feels and handling. Now Decima has come home and we see new features from KJP implemented by Guerrilla Games such as the Focus Scan
The machines are inspired by Metal Gear Solid 4 stuff.
Got to love the exact same terrain markers from Death Stranding in here.
@@WheeledHamster according to who? I watched over 2 hours of a documentary and behind the scenes interviews and not once was that ever said
Champion
I am really glad to see old details returning
Thanks for watching!
This video was so immersive, I cannot imagine what the actual game would be like
you forget how long you have been playing sometimes. Watching some of the NPC's bicker and talk is like real people.
@@jonathanwessner3456 so true
@@jonathanwessner3456 totally. I'm playing the game on ps4 and it's unbelievable the amount of NPCs on settlements, feels so alive
@@Games-zx8ug yes..so immersive, as you use a skill point and back out, only for everything to pop into existence, so immersive to turn the camera around and gather loot off a charger only for the charger to pop into existence, so immersive to go to your stash and back out only for reality to load into existence, so nice to watch a cutscene and have to pause it Everytime the scene changes or a character pops up because the textures won't load, ugh..you get my point, they don't care about us poor people on PS4, they even stopped updating it as soon as BS for the PS5 came out, the support for the PS4 version of forbidden west is ended, so we're stuck with any glitches and texture popin forever until we can get a PS5 for less than 100 bucks. So immersive. Greedy a$$ companies.
Keep in mind that several of these details were already in the first game.
That's why I found this vid pretty meh
"Champion" Ah... This game's sooo incredibly detailed.. The characters, the environments... Love it
3:45 'Keep your legs straight when you hit the water'.
i understood that refrence
Flushed away! Totally underrated animation
I love how realistic the animation is when Aloy shakes her hands while climbing- it kind of makes you realise how strong she is, casually holding on by one hand
Yeah that's referenced by capture real climber footage
14:14
this npc didn't give a damn about the other one who was there removing the spear and shot without caring
🤣🤣
God, imagine how the next Naughty Dog game will look like. I mean this is an open world game so imagine how a linear game would look like. I can’t wait
TLOU P2 already has realistic fingerprints and eyes/lashes and more on each character and very detailed realistic vines and infection. It's almost as if it can't be getting even better than it already is
I’d expect one of Naughty Dog’s next games will be open world, but it will still look incredible
You should look out for Rockstar and Kojima Productions since Death Stranding uses the same engine as Horizon. If Death Stranding looked that good in 2019 I can't even imagine how much better KJP's next game will look.
@@aadipie i don’t know about the future of rockstar. I have a strong feeling that their next games won’t be as detailed and breathtaking as before. So i think of red dead 2 as the last kiss goodbye from the the original team of writers and producers etc. But who knows, maybe I’m wrong and I hope I’m wrong and i hope they’ll continue to make top quality games that touch our hearts in the future.
@@DIRTY.WORK-Inc I think gta6 will be amazing, but not as good as people hope it will be. GTAV is insanely detailed and people bash it constantly
One thing about this game is they didn't have to add any of these little details, could've just added new features, gameplay mechanics, etc, and it could've been a good game, but, like in the first game, they went above and beyond to add these little details that make the world we're playing in feel so much more realistic, definitely a huge goty contender for me, I love everything about this game. 😃
Having more gameplay features doesn't automatically makes it a better game, a lot of games have scrapped and unimplemented stuffs buried in their data and these things could get there because the devs think it doesn't fit with the overall design of the game or they can't implement it right with the budget and tech they have at hand.
For example, these guys are more than likely capable of making Strombirds and Dreadwings mountable, but that would easily kill the entire point of developing and diversifying Aloy's combat options because players can just easily bombard the entire map. They will have to balance that out again somehow and develop a new measures to counter the obvious advantage and who knows how much brainstorming that would take to find a satisfying solution, and the amount of head scratching to get it right...
Ideas for a implementable macro feature are not 1:1 transactional values with micro details. They probably set with the scope first and beautify it later, it's not like HFW didn't improve anything from HZD as it's WAY more packed and better designed in many department.
Well said joker
@@hansalanson3497 True, which is why I stated what I did, the little details in a game could be the difference between a game being just average, or a game potentially being a platform for all games in future to look at, and possibly take notes from, (like with TLOU 2, yes, the story was controversial for some people, but, the gameplay, world, graphic fidelity, and details made the game so much better). 😊
@@justiceforallthepeople2642 Thank u. 🙂
After two years of waiting for the PC release, I'm finally able to join you in the Forbidden West, and *holy crap* is it beautiful. The attention to detail is amazing.
other things that went into the game:
- they consulted with archaeologists to get the amount of weathering/decay on the buildings accurate
- the sound designer recorded *hundreds* of different birds and other animals, and different environments have different wildlife sounds
- all the different idling behaviors of the machines (firehorns will scratch themselves, fire/frostclaws will paw at the ground, clawstriders will shake themselves out, sunwings will turns and face the sun to sunbathe, etc. etc.)
I've put in over 160 hours so far and haven't even finished the mainline quest of the main game, nevermind the Burning Shores. I'm spending all my time just exploring and taking it in.
Took countless pictures of sceneries in this game. The level of detail they put into this game is just amazing.
this game is so beautiful, i've taken so many insane pics it's so easy with a game that is this good-looking ! :)
Do you have any links would like to see them 📸
It's crazy how we live in a day and age where THIS is a videogame, if you would've shown me this 20 years ago I thought the world ended and it was real life.
May not be the greatest in other areas, but i cannot get over how gorgeous the art direction, the music and the visuals are. wow.
Man, the attention to detail that Guerrilla Games have put into this game is just insane!! Photorealistic af! 🔥🔥
I loved the first one. The sequel gave me more than I could hope for.
Yes All Hail Gyro AIMING, it bring this game from great to Grand.
the shell walker putting it's box back on was adorable
This is a flawless game. Been playing it on PS5 for weeks now and haven't seen a single frame of discoloration, lag, light flares...nothing! And on top of that, its absolutely breathtaking.
when I play Death Stranding, I knew Horizon Forbidden West is going to be a very beautiful game but man, I can't believe how amazing this game was, such details and effort they put in this game. this is a Masterpiece, if this game don't win GOTY, I'm going to lose hope in humanity.
Ragsarok incoming though.. but yeah i really want HFW to win GOTY
Nah I'm sure the cucks will vote Elden Ring, that PS3 looking shit, this game is undervalued.
Elden ring will take the cake, even though i like both horizon. And i like gow. But Elden ring is goty.
@@piyush0092 u still think that?
I love how NPC's react when you jump and land from a high place. Some think you're showing off and others are impressed.
This and RDR2 are easily the best looking games I’ve played and I’m still on PS4, saving up for PS5 👍
I had someone try and argue that these two games are far from being on par with each other in terms to attention to detail
Have you played Ghost of Tsushima? Every single second of that game is screenshot worthy, it truly is a work of art unto itself.
@@vampireguy24 you’re right it a beautiful game! but in terms of detail and graphics it’s not like Horizon Forbidden West or rdr2
But it’s close
@@O.M.C Of course not, Tsushima didn't have the budget that those two had.
I think the coolest detail, is the small face fuzz, small hairs all over the face and ears just like real life, like that's a detail that they could have easily left out. And also the corner of the eye, where it meets the nose.
I was so waiting for this video. Thank u for your amazing job your videos are so peaceful and interesting, the 4k quality is really appreciated ;)
Thanks, was waiting for this one. Hopefully you make more parts on horizon :)
Great video. Showing only the details with the games music in background and without commentary is just how i like it.
Most of these details were also present in the first game HZD. I would like to see a video showing a comparison of these details between the games. Show the enhancement of the details, what has been improved and then show new details that are only present in the second game.
Aloy looks like Loki with that helmet XD
Man I was waited for the notification all day❤️
Grammar is important
You're The *Champion* My Friend
Came back to Zero Dawn a few days back. I guess I am somewhere in the middle of the game. I am amazed how good Zero Dawn looks on PS5 but Forbidden West looks like a next level. Will be happy to jump into it right when I finish the first game and with all the story freshly in my head. I like the atmosphere, too. The world overall, the music, it's dope. And it seems like it hasn't changed in Forbidden West.
I waited so long for this video, thank you so much Knightz.💜
“A lot of these were in the first game already”, yes but here things are greatly expanded. Tons more differing settlements to show off dynamic NPC’s working and chatting, the detail in the Utaru settlement is amazing with all the wickerwork and grown in moss, people farming and singing or sitting at ponds. Chainscrape itself has the coolest activity going on with multiple levels of detail on how the logs get to the saw-blade, with multiple NPC’s down the river using sticks to push them in the right direction, to where they finally get offloaded to a pile of cut logs by the end.
Mounts have been diversified giving more unique mounting animations, as well as more combat options. And just the sheer graphical fidelity upgrades other already existing animations and details. It’s fine for existing details to already be in the first game, if they were absent here it would be pretty odd.
Two more things, my friend told me that if you fly too high, eventually Aloy will comment that its getting a little hard to breathe.
I also found some of the Utaru playing Frizbee in Plainsong.
I certainly learned a few new things from this video! Such insane detail! But so incredibly wonderful!
😊 Don't forget that the following features was already implemented in Horizon Zero Dawn:
• on-machine Cauldron marks (even on Corruptors and Deathbringers which has no Cauldron, and the marks on them is the logo of Thebes in Horizon Forbidden West!)
• Shell-walker cargo fixing
• catching breath after run
• shaking one hand when climbing
• various mounting animations
• idle reaction to weather
• moving up and down on steep surfaces
• damaged machine limps
But these were developed around 2015.
And these features are still years ahead many other developer companies. E.g. the 15-year old rudimentary character animation in the recently released Elden Ring. It's so irritating for my eyes that I can't get that game seriously, it ruined the show for me.
I somewhat disagree with your various mounting animations point. Striders, broadheads, and chargers are all mounted with the same animation, and I don’t think mounting from different directions changes the animation (besides possibly from behind. I don’t come at the mount from that direction enough to remember).
But besides that, yeah, a lot of these were in Zero Dawn.
Dude that’s absolutely pathetic, you’re not playing a game because it doesn’t have 1200000fps 8k HDR and it’s an old animation. Elden Ring is a brilliant game and you should push through those “atrocities”.
Not that HFW isn’t brilliant as well though.
@@Weir.721 That's quality, dude. Once you sat in a Tesla, it won't be the same to sit back into a Prius. Or a Renault Zoe. Or a Citroen C4. While all these cars are way better to drive than a 20-year old Suzuki Swift.
@@merion297 yeah, true, doesn't mean it's not good
Look, I'm talking about tech quality. My eyes no longer eats low quality character animation. Your's do. (Is 'eyes' plural form?) Even Shadow of The Tomb Raider's character animation become too low quality for my eyes. Fortunately, I already played it through, 2-3 times.
8:33 not expected this level of detail 💯💯
Why tf not? Games from 2018 have this smh
@@spigwt4586 rdr2
@@Nightify. yeah lmao that’s what I had in mind, it’s insane how there’s still no game with that much attention to small and realistic detail
@@spigwt4586 frfrfr
@@spigwt4586 In Hfw is better
Something I just found out now is that arrows break if you walk into them (I was shooting at a wall and walked into them get my stash). I think it only works with Aloy’s arrows but I haven’t tried it on any NPCs. This vid was good to watch as well!
One of the best games in video game industry
Just I word"This Game Is Beautiful as much as Aloy Is ❤️"
12:10 Aloy still does not leave the uncanny valley for me, she looks like an animated character. The Amicia de Rune character model from "A Plague Tale" somehow manages to do facial expressions better; her eyes are fully alive, in many shots she looks photoreal.
Really? I’ve played both games and thought Amicia, while looking great didn’t look as realistic as aloy, the eyelashes kinda bugged me out, but to each their own, both look amazing
Really had to applaud the dev for putting so more hard work in the details and graphics of this game across the board
Very nice Work Knightz :)
5:00 - No, there is more turbulence at higher altitudes (and in bad weather)...
Can't wait to play this on PC once it gets ported. I'm still finishing the first game.
@Flavio PS it won't take that long
@@geethsal1861 wanna bet probably be longer than that. These games don’t wake any where near as good on pc they ain’t hurting to get pc sales
Finally a game as beautiful and detailed as Red Dead Redemption 2! I truly had an amazing time playing Horizon Forbidden West and even if i completed the story,i still have a lot of things to see and do in it!
Great video Champion !
It is nowhere as detailed as RDR2 but still very detailed.
Thanks for watching! 🏆
The game is for sure one of the best I've ever played, excited for more from the Devs!
@@Ezio4048 The world is FAR more detailed. Isn't even close. The machines don't have testicles to shrink in colder weather.
@@ayinnjnnthvenam5155 RDR2 is well ahead in detial its got its own eco system. But HFW and Last of us 2.
@@Ezio4048 horizon 2 doesn't have unnecessary details like RDR2
This is my GOTY no doubt
Awesome video showing the level of detail the creators went to, to produce this game. It amazes me still, even though I've played through it several times. There's always something I didn't notice or do the other times.
That said, the machines having the cauldron logo on them was actually in the 1st game, too.
Aloy can run for literal miles, but, you stop and she is finally out of breath
Would you like her to stop and catch her breath in the middle of her run?
@@sleeper5758 no, i just think it is funny in an interesting way.
When the devs mix hardwork, passion, patience and time management, you get a beautiful and polished masterpiece like this!!! 💯💯
Incredible.
The gaming industry has come a long way and its still growing. All these years and developers have accumulated a stockpile of data on how to make games and archives of tools and objects they can easily pick from to make things faster. Couple that with advancement in automated technology that simplifies the creation process. All this has allowed developers to focus all their budget on story telling, game mechanics and gameplay without technology bottlenecking their process.
I enjoy watching your videos keep it up I'm rooting for you all the way. And thank you for the 4k your videos are crisp n clean. Good stuff😎🤘🏽I get a sense of calmness and relaxation watching your videos.
I can spend hours just watching what NPCs are doing, especially kids. Utaru kids playing with Tallneck toys. Tenakth kids running up to a soldier (daddy?) to get a head pat. Makes my heart melt.
My favorite type of content on youtube !
--Here's a detail I just found: you can knock snow off some of the small shrubs in snowy areas. I noticed it by mistake and then spent 5 minutes running through brush watching the snow come off. It's truly amazing.
--There's a black box inside a settlement, and the NPC merchant nearby will say something like "I'm not giving you a discount for that!" when opening the vent behind him.
--Using a glider in a settlement also prompts some amusing reaction dialogue from NPCs.
Thank you for a beautiful video, with HZD's Aloy theme playing. Beautifully done.
Thank you for this video, I've played Forbidden West game for over 100 hours and hadn't noticed many of these details; it's incredible the amount of work Guerrilla put in to make this game world feel so real
Excelente video bro :)
Thank you! 🙏
What a gorgeous video. While I have been playing it for a while now, I never took the time to soak in these intricate details. Thanks bud! Liked n subscribed!
I love the attention to detail in these games. I remember playing ZD and getting really excited, because she runs differently through deep snow than on regular ground. You never see this stuff in games.
this is by far my favorite game ever
You're CHAMPION xD
I love this type of video, thank you
Haha thanks for watching! 😁
When i discovered that the dust whirls lift you higher up when gliding i was so amazed omg
Great vid but just a slight nitpick, for no. 9 it's not that there is less air resistance near the ground, it's actually the air closet to the ground is less turbulent as compared to the air high up in the sky
Damn, the hairs on the face and neck is insane. Such a useless detail in a game, but the dev did it anyway. Such a show of love and realism
Your capture quality is amazing dude!
Definitely the best looking game I have ever played - amazing video!
such a masterpiece! i usually sell my copy after finish the game, but imma keep this until i get my ps5 and play it again in bigger 4k tv to maximize the enjoyment!!
The wet weather effect isn't working anymore after 1.05 patch, when u get in the water and come out your equipment and Aloy remain dry, same for when it's raining :(
It's a known bug and they planed to fix it with 1.07 or 1.08
Hope fully they fix the water effect in aloy because she doesn't seem to get wet after the intro stage. Even when it rains other npc have droplets on their body or they do get wet but aloy stays dry
You got to be kidding! That wet water effect was so great. How and why did they screw that up!
@@--PaZuZu-- after Patch 1.05 It's Not Working Anymore
7:35 She Is Wet Here
@@nextbigthingthebeastincarn7216 that's prolouge stage after that no more wet aloy trust me I'm playing it daily I have clips sent to guerilla you want me to send them to you too?
@@dusssky Yes Now
READ MY COMMENTS AGAIN 😂😂😂
Man, The Details 🥺❤️
A lot of these details were in the first game as well.
Legends say that nathan drake is still walking on that desert at 11:26 To this day.
a absolutely didn't know this it's a masterpiece
I hope the world in the new avatar game is even half as beautiful as this, obviously more bioluminescent and jungly tho. The details in this are astounding.
7:00 spinosaurus be like:
"Da fuq is that girl doing?"
I like that if you pass through a settlement jumping or running NPCs will react, I heard phrases like "what's with the acrobatics?" or "no running, be respectful", I really like that.
Another tiny thing I've noticed is while flying on a sunwing or waterwing, an owl or a pelican would come close to fly along. It's just cute.
You'll know how dedicated the developers are about this game. Everything down to the last detail was done meticulously.
6:49 holy fuck, that animation looks as smooth as it is amazing!
Champion. Love your videos! You've earned a subscriber :)
my personal favourite was something else, when flying close above the water and making a turn, the sun/waterwing's wing is actually hitting the water surface and not just glitcing through. It will show a waterspash with sound. Such a small detail, but it makes the whole experience more "realistic"
The only issue I find is water animation and physics and that could be better but nonetheless it's truly a masterpiece and sets a benchmark for a next gen game.
This comment is old af but I have to say, the water is literally best in class. I can’t possibly see how anyone would think otherwise.
Did you noticed? When a Chargers health is low it won't hurt you because it's scare of you. But i dont know if they are still aggresive on Very hard mode
Thanks for this video. These guys at Gorilla Games have done such an excellent job. You really just get lost in the beauty of this game, let alone everything else it has to offer
Other nice detail is when Aloy is walking (not running) through the tall bush (where she hides) she opens her arms and put her hands with palms down on bush like she’s feeling it.
Brilliant knightz as per m8 👍
You are a Champion man! Great video!
These are just some of the few minor details on why I love games that have so much dedication in them, it's what make the world in the game so lively and realistic, no wonder why in games detailed as these there's still going to be something discovered in years
This is one of the most realistic games I have ever seen in my life. no, it IS the most detailed game I’ve seen in my life. It’s fricking gorgeous