Usually programmers can choose between two approaches to deal with "not yet accessible" zones since the early Nintendo consoles. 1. A barrier 2. unbeatable enemies 3. a combination of both. This should have been the perfect occasion for unbeatable island defenses.
Or they can make a coherent game that doesn't require blocking people off via invisible walls or overplayed enemies... these AA games can take a lot of lessons from Elden Ring
@@aqsw57 Of which after you finish the game just becomes an area you get turned back from? Not even something you can access as a reward and they just threw an excuse on.
@@danielstacey7785 You think Elden Ring is coherent? It tells a coherent story which has sensible and logical narrative progression? THAT is the argument you're making? Elden Ring might be a lot of things, but a great narrative is not one of them, nor is a coherent and cohesive lore and world (imo).
It woulda been so cool if they KNEW you can bug inside and ALL the spectres just turn on you, and if you somehow manage to make it to the top shuttle, the Zeniths just shoot you down
Exactly what I was hoping when I saw all of them lined up in the barrier. I think they should've ditched the shield and just had the spectre decimate you if you tried to go there
@@nickkozak4763 Aloy and Beta move, talk and carry themselves completely different. But if they are smart enough to consider that Aloy might be dangerous for their plns, they just need to use fingerprints to identify who is who.
How funny! the other day I was walking by the coast and I saw these huge modern buildings and freaked out lol I knew instantly this must be the zenith installation and was totally blown away by the discovery. Legit tried to do this same thing but kept getting turned away, either by the current or -when i could fly- by the shield.
I tried it too it works but a little diffrent for me i had to swim a bit an then calling sunwing to pick me up from the water then i could fly over the base
I did a side quest that took me to the coast where the base was and I freaked out too! I had to hack their terminals calling machines to the area and thought they’d come after me.
@@Damodred_Heiress yeah but I was afraid a bunch of shielded immortals would come from the sky looking for me and everyone there would die. I should have known better they wouldn’t waste their time on that though.
Anyone else disappointed that you can't explore the island officially outside of the final mission. Like there's an actual post-game setting this time, and a perfect opportunity to see some tribe move into the base and Oseram open in all up to see how it works.
I'm guessing thr zenith base will be expanded at least a bit in the 3rd game. The shuttle is there, and that's the way to reach the odyssey and bring APPOLO. And all kinds of zenith tech in the base and in the odyssey.
You aren’t the only one. I also really wanted the rebel champion shield, but the first one was damaged. ‘Okay that’s fine I guess, make s sense.’ Then you kill like 20 more champions with overpowered shields who don’t drop anything, not even parts which you can use to craft some sort of op weapon or shield. Then you kill a zenith and it’s 2 specters and they don’t drop anything either. Sad
There has to be a trilogy. With Nemesis on the way...its gona be crazy. The moment the Far Zenith folks walked through the door at Hades Proving Lab...you knew shit was gona take a crazy turn.
a crazy turn into the story being kinda shit with anything involving the zeniths... to be fair i expected t because a sequel is VERY HARD. to make especially when the first set a high standard.
I wish in the next game, they could show two flashbacks. A flashback of the war against the Faro Plague and a flashback of how the Far Zenith managed to escape their planet.
I think it would be neat if the intro cutscene of Horizon 3 was the destruction of the Sirius colony. To showcase how dangerous Nemesis really is. I assume they're gonna have to design a bunch of "Nemesis" type machines anyway so you might as well put them to good use during the intro cinematic. The fall of the colony could also work as a short gameplay segment. You play as Tilda and have to escape to the Odyssey alongside Erik, Gerard, Verbena and the rest. Something like: Tilda wakes up, she's a bit depressed, the day seems normal but then, suddenly, all hell breaks loose.
@@ThePreciseClimber Great idea! But I kinda want the POV player to be Stanley Chen. Slowly and surely you discovered that you can't make it in time and you see Gerard, Eric,...making it to the ship. Stanley is remembered as a great guy so maybe it ill add to the tragedy.
Gotta love how once you know how game engines work you can start to see the game in a programming state. Like how the voice lines played in certain areas and all that. Theyre obviously just box entities with a "enter" trigger that plays audio, but its cool to see.
lol stop trying to sound so fucking technical😂 every game ever in existence has programming to make certain triggers happen. You can literally play THPS and certain music will start playing when you enter a certain area, it's been a thing in games forever😂
The barrier makes sense because it's like the shields the Zenith use. I always love when barriers are integrated. Also in the beginning when you go to the Shadow Carja refuges before you've talked to Petra.
@@bec324I think sylens contacts you before you enter the area where the shadow carja hold itamen hostage and tells you to gtfo because you WILL die there 😂
They did a really great job of minimizing sequence breaks in this game. In any other game this probably would have gotten you to the end. This was ultra cool
@@thuggeegaming659 sequence break does exist for some side quests and sometimes it is so easy that you can do it by mere accident… happened to me. That being said it is not exactly a sequence break as you are still required to do previous sections though it skipped the section I did earlier. I was so confused cause the dialogs didn’t made any sense then I realised that the was glitched due to some sequence break-like thing I did 2 days earlier LOL.
This game is beautiful . I’ve been kinda burnt out on games lately have forgotten the magic that some of them have . Until … I spotted this zenith base and just got curious so I started to pursue it , I was swimming through the ocean as it became dark and the moonlight was shining so bright , it was like I was a kid again experiencing a game or the excitement and mystery of a game for the first time again . I can’t explain it really it was special though I got lost for those couple hours …
I was in a random ruin and suddenly Aloy said something like ”I’m sure Tilda wouldn’t mind me looking around” and i knew in that moment I had fucked up lol
Pretty clever actually to do this shield and the water current. Also super nice how Aloy is commenting everything even though you are not supposed to go there. These small details! Perfect!
there's a significant amount of bugs in this game where quest dialogue will play when revisiting quest locations in free roam, for example when I was exploring the repair bay west of the utaru lands after *SPOILERS* . . . . . . . . . After Varls death 😢 it still played voice clips from him which made me a little sad ngl
It’s not a glitch it’s just that when you go there, the dialogue starts. It’s just a way of making the programming easier because the only time you go there is for the quest. If you go somewhere you aren’t meant to there is bound to be unintended glitches
I think it’s an amazing way to stop people from getting to the island since it it shows how advanced the zeniths are and I’m glad they added a barrier/energy shield instead of an invisible barrier like on the island.
In Ghost of Tsuhsima for example, if you approached a "forbidden" area the enemies massacred you, you couldn't even get close, it would have been interesting if the sentries had attacked Aloy.
@@markhettenbach3141 Or New Game +. I can imagine flight being available as soon as the Embassy is completed in a NG+ file. Would make for some interesting NG+ Speedruns.
to be fair it would make sense that a civilization that travels though the stars would be able to make massive barriers like that. also seeing as its their main form of defense it also fits in that regard.
Native to PS4 actually the PS5 Horizon will be Horizon III can't wait for that. The graphics still look good on PS4 at times because it uses dynamic Resolution so it depends. Hats off to guerrilla
I think what you mean is best native 4k on ps5.??hzd forbiden west is not a next generation experience it falls under previous generation.. Horizon forbiden west is a cross generation title, in order for cross generation to work, they need previous generation host platform, it safe to say for the first time they choose ps4 pro as a host platform for development of the hzd forbiden west.. This is the reason why the base ps4 is so blurry with 1080p Cheakerboard rendering because the developers push so hard on ps4 pro platform , i think this is the last 1st party game on ps4.. As promised by the guerilla studio they inded use ps4 pro all of its power because i remember what the developers said they didn't use the ps4 pro full potential on hzd 1
I managed to climb the Bulwark without the lift but didn't dare to go talk to the chief there because I worried I might break something. The town worked as intended though unlike this which is just amazing.
Or even have a cutscene during the end where Apollo is teaching people from every tribe, a medical pod giving Kotallo a new arm, the base's industry is being restored to build some equipment for people, the rusted sections are slowly replaced with basic staircases, etc.
I loved the first games shield weaver armor and the fact that you can get it at level 7 by sequence breaking. Too bad they didn't let us do the same in this game let alone give us the shield weaver armor.
canonically it got badly damaged during alloy's travels searching for gia, and lost all her gear in the process, made me almost cry seeing what was left of the weaver armor that became the nora anointed starting armor, and the loss of my carja shadowcaster, shadowhunter bow, and several other very strong tools i got early on from just hunting machines.
@@rignatetris4435 , It provides an in-game reason for why Aloy is getting/farming/leveling gear up throughout her travels in the Forbidden West, which is a core game mechanic...
@@grettelv8653 that's a situation that can't arise. Currents keep you from swimming to the base. But in order to fly there, you have to complete wings of the ten, the penultimate quest of the game.
Honestly looking at the landscape, it reminds me so much of Death Stranding. You can definitely see Kojima Productions influence on the game engine here.
@@RazKob33 no im not? Wasnt it said by them that the decima engine was worked on both kojima productions and guerilla games? They sent it back and forth between the studios during the development of Death Stranding adding a whole new set of features.
@@RazKob33 if you think he is trolling you sure as ignorant as hell. Both games use same engine and the Decima engine was offered by Guerilla to Kojima for DS and the new scan mechanic and a lot of other elements are inspired by Kojima along with a common phrase "Keeping on Keeping on" found in delivery terminals in DS and also in the Julius AI logs in FW. Not to mention all the easter eggs and collabs both games did before
@@MaxC_1 First of all; are you salty bruh? 😂 2nd: I know about both companies collaborating with each other. I've encountered several Easter eggs on HZD. I just asked a question. Not out of being insulting, but more on a lighter note to the bloke. Chill
The thing that stood out to me the most is you're wearing the Sobeck Raiment. I couldn't do it. After Aloy expressed her open disgust of the outfit, putting it on felt too weird!
If the devs were extra smart they could have done a Cyberpunk thing and made a deliberate hole in the shield, underwater cave or something, or at least some secrete dialogue with an NPC at a very specific (small window) time and made a super secrete ending option where Aloy goes it alone for an Ultra-hard experience and secret ending.
I explored every cm of horizon map and enjoyed each moment of gameplay ,,,was sad when I have to go to that island to have final battle and next day 😢 ,, my hours of enjoyment gone ,,,, will pay zero dawn again from start 😄
Actually there was a talk about the force shield around the island of Zeniths in the beginning of the Singularity mission mind you. So it is explained in the script.
The Sphere collider in this game is thin as 1 layer of papper, that why the object can piercing it by use 2 objects that are pushing each other. The developer team should add Sphere Colider with thick skins. Like 30 layer of pappers
This was the perfect opportunity to go the subnautica route and just have a bunch of specters swarm you until you die, instead of doing the boring invisible wall thing.
I don't like this. It would have been the perfect occasion to summon neverending spectres at you just to make sure Aloy can't possibly survive, but if she somehow manages to escape it would have been the perfect occasion to include the dialogue when discussing the assault on the base.
I have only seen this from a distance but I really like the mic xture of new and ancient architecture. I am guessing that this was the original Far Zenith base?
honestly the barrier doesn’t bother me that much, giving the zeniths are all protected by personal barriers, this is an explainable choice. They could also just point a huge ass laser at you once you fly over the border, or generate endless specters to through at you, or simply telling you that your focus is overloading there's no way infiltrate this area and cut to black to send you back. To me they are all just versions of "draw bridge you cannot drop yet, come back later", as long as they are logical in the sense of story telling, it's a good job done.
Its supposed to be an open world game, but in reality its a simple linear adventure game with some RPG grind mechanics. The excitement of exploration is killed by the three main game barriers. Also they play many tricks with maps, removing fires, anchor points, so certain things only happen once on a mission and not before or after.
i like how in this case the barrier actually makes sense and isnt just an invisible wall its like, "ya they have this kind of tech so that makes sense"
I reckon in the DLC we'll go back there to retrieve Hephaestus. Maybe it'll have learnt to build Spectre drones and we can figure out how to install the zenith 3D printer into cauldrons.
I would have mad it so the barrier didn’t push you away, but instead allowed you to walk through but disabled all your tech, including creatures, so you won’t be able to defend yourself or run away other than basic movement, and “deactivate” your creatures.
@@CaptainPilipinas when I look at the architecture here, it reminds me of the Pantheon. Plus there’s all the computer AIs named after Greek gods and titans like Gaia and Hades.
@@stephenking5852 every AI got his name for a Greek God or demigod (with the exception of Minerva which does not belong to Greek mythology) - Gaia (Γαία) primordial goddess of the earth. - Aether (Αιθέρας) primordial god of the heavens. (A little Greek info, Apollo and Artemis they were brothers) - Apollo (Απόλλωνας) god of the sun, prophecy, music, and poetry. - Artemis (Άρτεμις) goddess of the moon, hunting, and the wilds. - Demeter (Δήμητρα) goddess of the harvest. - Eleuthia (Ειλείθυια) goddess of childbirth. - Hades (Άδης) god of the underworld and the dead. - Hephaestus (Ηφαιστος) god of the fire and forge. - Minerva (Μινέρβα) goddess of wisdom, ingenuity, and battle. (as far as I know it is the equivalent of the Goddess Athena (Αθηνά) - Poseidon (Ποσειδώνας) god of the seas
Or Erick pops up with his shield intact to play with you. Having Erick so a self-satisfied smirk as he hunts down the main character, while all your weapons are doing zero damage. Final image is of Erick smirking directly at the screen, as though he is staring at the player, while the screen slowly goes dark.
I guess it makes aense that their base is shielded with the same shield all zeniths use but i think it would be funnier just getting swarmed by spectures if you go there way before the game intended
I bought this game about a week or two ago and I haven't played too much of it and I never knew you can ride on one of those winged machines! Now i have to play this game 🤣
You don't get to mount them until late game though. Best bet is to save side quest until near the end and once you unlock Sunwing overides just fly around and quest away.
Does anyone know a little square building on the shore line all the way south west (no name to identify) where there are 4 soldiers inside it. Near the large Spinosaurus but just a hair east of him. If you get close they give you a warning to stay away barbarian and to me that means come kills us please. Well in my good graces I get inside or just near the wall and it’s a huge “WTF?” Moment. I die instantly even if they don’t hit me. Anyone else run into this scenario and what the deal is?
Yeah same thing here. I defeat the slaughterspine. I feel like a boss. Go upto the shack, get told to leave thinking these guys aren't the boss of me and that I wanted to see who they are. I attack them then a secret service sniper just takes me down.
@@gageshippy2256 I know one of them had a big old gun and hit me from a distance and I took that well. It wasn’t till I got 10 to 15 feet from it or just inside and down I go. I tried a few times till I knew there was no winning. 😂
lol that was the most aggravating thing ever. i was on the verge of tears doing those exploits to get the shield weaver armor. but damn, sure made the rest of the story a hell of a lot easier. 😂
Everyone debating about bad area unlocking progression, they did it much better in the DLC tho! The towers shooting any opponents out of the sky were very interesting to work around when I was still exploring.
wait you can fly on forbidden west? i just started playing this game im currently playing zero dawn and im nowhere near finishing the game , this got me hyped to play forbidden west all of a sudden, but i dont want to ruin the story .
@@falcongaming2245 When I tried, I got the out of map warning and the game steered me away from the Base.... Will give it another try using your route.
@@falcongaming2245 Ok its like a Wall you can't fly through, but you can walk through and once past the wall you can fly un-restricted.... Nice Glitch. What's needed now is a way to stop the game kicking you back to your last save if you fly too far out of map:P
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Usually programmers can choose between two approaches to deal with "not yet accessible" zones since the early Nintendo consoles. 1. A barrier 2. unbeatable enemies 3. a combination of both. This should have been the perfect occasion for unbeatable island defenses.
Or they can make a coherent game that doesn't require blocking people off via invisible walls or overplayed enemies... these AA games can take a lot of lessons from Elden Ring
@@danielstacey7785 Especially on the technical side. Elden Ring is a great example of that.
@@danielstacey7785 the impenetrable barrier is justified by the plot in this case, it's not there just for gameplay reasons
@@aqsw57 Of which after you finish the game just becomes an area you get turned back from? Not even something you can access as a reward and they just threw an excuse on.
@@danielstacey7785 You think Elden Ring is coherent? It tells a coherent story which has sensible and logical narrative progression? THAT is the argument you're making?
Elden Ring might be a lot of things, but a great narrative is not one of them, nor is a coherent and cohesive lore and world (imo).
It woulda been so cool if they KNEW you can bug inside and ALL the spectres just turn on you, and if you somehow manage to make it to the top shuttle, the Zeniths just shoot you down
Exactly what I was hoping when I saw all of them lined up in the barrier.
I think they should've ditched the shield and just had the spectre decimate you if you tried to go there
Pl
Or you could take the ship and get out and dodge
@@Henlak- just like in far cry 4
@@Henlak- you can kill the barrier holding ones and they are not fighting back 😂
I love flying. Also love how when you call the sunwing it grabs Aloy and yeets her onto its back. Really cute.
Best addition to the game for sure!
finally a game ya dont have to kill urself tp scapa watery grave😂
Got to appreciate the backflip too. Aloy is stylin even when she mounts the Sunwing.
Which cauldron is it at
@@jinxed2090 mother's heart😂
"Oh hi Beta, what's with the bow?"
-Spectre, probably
Lmfao
Fucking brilliant 😂😂
what if beta and aloy swapped clothing. they wouldn’t know the fucking difference
@@nickkozak4763
Aloy and Beta move, talk and carry themselves completely different.
But if they are smart enough to consider that Aloy might be dangerous for their plns, they just need to use fingerprints to identify who is who.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
At least they made the barrier the same as the shields the Zenith wear so it makes sense. Its not just a random wall
It is a random wall after you finish the game.
How funny! the other day I was walking by the coast and I saw these huge modern buildings and freaked out lol I knew instantly this must be the zenith installation and was totally blown away by the discovery. Legit tried to do this same thing but kept getting turned away, either by the current or -when i could fly- by the shield.
It is possible to go there
I tried it too it works but a little diffrent for me i had to swim a bit an then calling sunwing to pick me up from the water then i could fly over the base
I did a side quest that took me to the coast where the base was and I freaked out too! I had to hack their terminals calling machines to the area and thought they’d come after me.
@@williamjackson8782 they do in a way, they sent those damn specters 😒 hate fighting those
@@Damodred_Heiress yeah but I was afraid a bunch of shielded immortals would come from the sky looking for me and everyone there would die. I should have known better they wouldn’t waste their time on that though.
Anyone else disappointed that you can't explore the island officially outside of the final mission. Like there's an actual post-game setting this time, and a perfect opportunity to see some tribe move into the base and Oseram open in all up to see how it works.
I think the plan is to make it as cauldron in a future dlc and they have a whole castle somewhere in the Mountains too ... I am curious where it goes
After playing breath of the wild yeah…
I'm guessing thr zenith base will be expanded at least a bit in the 3rd game. The shuttle is there, and that's the way to reach the odyssey and bring APPOLO. And all kinds of zenith tech in the base and in the odyssey.
@@erickg10469nah i dont think that cauldron can make a horus as the trailer shows a fucking alive horus
@@InuYashaBandicootnope
I know im not the only one who hoped to be able to loot zenith gear after killing one of them.
You aren’t the only one. I also really wanted the rebel champion shield, but the first one was damaged. ‘Okay that’s fine I guess, make s sense.’
Then you kill like 20 more champions with overpowered shields who don’t drop anything, not even parts which you can use to craft some sort of op weapon or shield. Then you kill a zenith and it’s 2 specters and they don’t drop anything either. Sad
@@berbal9658 I think the explanation for the Zenith thing is that it gets destroyed explodes? Idk I haven’t played the game since it came out
Probably in the 3rd game we will see a technology like that
And use
@@Forest_Pilot its mostly like that, most of the zenith tech simply break after aloy invading their base
There has to be a trilogy. With Nemesis on the way...its gona be crazy. The moment the Far Zenith folks walked through the door at Hades Proving Lab...you knew shit was gona take a crazy turn.
a crazy turn into the story being kinda shit with anything involving the zeniths... to be fair i expected t because a sequel is VERY HARD. to make especially when the first set a high standard.
@@nickkozak4763 Lookong forward to the Nemesis Expansion
@@nickkozak4763 personally i think it was a solid twist. sure they were underdeveloped but i think overall the 2nd game topped the first
@@nickkozak4763 kinda shit? The introduction of the zeniths was insane!
@@elevate5731 to be fair it was good but the way it was told was not good, voice actings great but the sequence of events is just not too great
I wish in the next game, they could show two flashbacks. A flashback of the war against the Faro Plague and a flashback of how the Far Zenith managed to escape their planet.
I think it would be neat if the intro cutscene of Horizon 3 was the destruction of the Sirius colony. To showcase how dangerous Nemesis really is. I assume they're gonna have to design a bunch of "Nemesis" type machines anyway so you might as well put them to good use during the intro cinematic.
The fall of the colony could also work as a short gameplay segment. You play as Tilda and have to escape to the Odyssey alongside Erik, Gerard, Verbena and the rest. Something like: Tilda wakes up, she's a bit depressed, the day seems normal but then, suddenly, all hell breaks loose.
Imagine if we got that as a separate game
Dlc
@@ThePreciseClimber Great idea! But I kinda want the POV player to be Stanley Chen. Slowly and surely you discovered that you can't make it in time and you see Gerard, Eric,...making it to the ship. Stanley is remembered as a great guy so maybe it ill add to the tragedy.
@@ThePreciseClimber that would actually be so cool lol. Just to set the tome for whats coming
Gotta love how once you know how game engines work you can start to see the game in a programming state.
Like how the voice lines played in certain areas and all that. Theyre obviously just box entities with a "enter" trigger that plays audio, but its cool to see.
lol stop trying to sound so fucking technical😂 every game ever in existence has programming to make certain triggers happen. You can literally play THPS and certain music will start playing when you enter a certain area, it's been a thing in games forever😂
@@yesdude3914 Yes, thats literally the point you braindead baboon. Any basic game making knowledge makes this shit cool.
@@yesdude3914 Jesus Christ, chill. It's still interesting and fun to see where those boxes are located. Why are you so triggered?
@@yesdude3914 this just in, people are no longer allowed to find anything about games or programming interesting because someone else did it first.
@@yesdude3914 ratio
The barrier makes sense because it's like the shields the Zenith use. I always love when barriers are integrated. Also in the beginning when you go to the Shadow Carja refuges before you've talked to Petra.
What's that barrier like?
@@bec324I think sylens contacts you before you enter the area where the shadow carja hold itamen hostage and tells you to gtfo because you WILL die there 😂
They did a really great job of minimizing sequence breaks in this game. In any other game this probably would have gotten you to the end.
This was ultra cool
What’s that?
@@xj6786 A sequence break is when you exploit glitches to skip over major portions of a game to beat a game faster than was intended.
Speedrunners would love that
@@thuggeegaming659 that’s what that is wow …thanks my guy.
@@thuggeegaming659 sequence break does exist for some side quests and sometimes it is so easy that you can do it by mere accident… happened to me. That being said it is not exactly a sequence break as you are still required to do previous sections though it skipped the section I did earlier. I was so confused cause the dialogs didn’t made any sense then I realised that the was glitched due to some sequence break-like thing I did 2 days earlier LOL.
This game is beautiful . I’ve been kinda burnt out on games lately have forgotten the magic that some of them have . Until … I spotted this zenith base and just got curious so I started to pursue it , I was swimming through the ocean as it became dark and the moonlight was shining so bright , it was like I was a kid again experiencing a game or the excitement and mystery of a game for the first time again . I can’t explain it really it was special though I got lost for those couple hours …
I was in a random ruin and suddenly Aloy said something like ”I’m sure Tilda wouldn’t mind me looking around” and i knew in that moment I had fucked up lol
I got that too but was like WTF?
That was the audio for her ruined mansion. They must have not restricted the audio to only after you meet her.
@@hunterludwig yes i know.. hadnt done the gemini quest at that point
I copped Varl from beyond the grave cause i went back through the TAU repair bay, him being like "aloy where are you going" cut a little too deep
I explored that same area before progressing the main story far enough and had the same thought lmao
Pretty clever actually to do this shield and the water current. Also super nice how Aloy is commenting everything even though you are not supposed to go there. These small details! Perfect!
It was not planned for her to comment on these things if you glitch in. Its just the dialogue from the mission glitching in.
there's a significant amount of bugs in this game where quest dialogue will play when revisiting quest locations in free roam, for example when I was exploring the repair bay west of the utaru lands after *SPOILERS*
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After Varls death 😢 it still played voice clips from him which made me a little sad ngl
It's not clever at all, because when you finish the game the shield is gone and you still can't go there.
It’s not a glitch it’s just that when you go there, the dialogue starts. It’s just a way of making the programming easier because the only time you go there is for the quest. If you go somewhere you aren’t meant to there is bound to be unintended glitches
That's what I call forbidden west. 😂
I think it’s an amazing way to stop people from getting to the island since it it shows how advanced the zeniths are and I’m glad they added a barrier/energy shield instead of an invisible barrier like on the island.
Once you start floating off the ground, it's that immediate sense of "well now I *know* I'm not supposed to be here"
Used the Mount to glitch through walls. It’s a classic open world trick,
lol I was sure it would work in the 2 but didn't try it
4:09 I love how the flying mount plucks Aloy outta the sea like a herring, then flicks her over its shoulder. 🤣
The first time it flips her, shes like, "OH! THAT happened!"
In Ghost of Tsuhsima for example, if you approached a "forbidden" area the enemies massacred you, you couldn't even get close, it would have been interesting if the sentries had attacked Aloy.
Oh my god, just a few minutes of this makes me want flight unlocked so bad.
Sucks it takes until the end to get it.
It means nothing by the time you get it.
@@Godfrey_first_tarnished For real!!! I platted the game 6 days after buying it, cased it and haven't touched it since.
@@Godfrey_first_tarnished its so pretty tho, maybe the dlc will make better use of it.
@@markhettenbach3141 Or New Game +. I can imagine flight being available as soon as the Embassy is completed in a NG+ file. Would make for some interesting NG+ Speedruns.
to be fair it would make sense that a civilization that travels though the stars would be able to make massive barriers like that. also seeing as its their main form of defense it also fits in that regard.
This game looks so good. It’s easily the best game native to the Ps5 right now
Native to PS4 actually the PS5 Horizon will be Horizon III can't wait for that. The graphics still look good on PS4 at times because it uses dynamic Resolution so it depends. Hats off to guerrilla
I think what you mean is best native 4k on ps5.??hzd forbiden west is not a next generation experience it falls under previous generation..
Horizon forbiden west is a cross generation title, in order for cross generation to work, they need previous generation host platform, it safe to say for the first time they choose ps4 pro as a host platform for development of the hzd forbiden west..
This is the reason why the base ps4 is so blurry with 1080p Cheakerboard rendering because the developers push so hard on ps4 pro platform , i think this is the last 1st party game on ps4.. As promised by the guerilla studio they inded use ps4 pro all of its power because i remember what the developers said they didn't use the ps4 pro full potential on hzd 1
@@MrBenedick14 horizon: zero dawn: forbidden west🧐
Bloodborne, spiderman miles morales and the other one, god of war etc etc
@@MrBenedick14 wow .great to know these facts. Thanks for sharing..no wonder why the game ran near flawlessly and looked beautiful on my ps4 pro
I managed to climb the Bulwark without the lift but didn't dare to go talk to the chief there because I worried I might break something. The town worked as intended though unlike this which is just amazing.
Imagine you could Trigger some end game cutscene, would be dope for speedruns
U can if u go on top of the zenith base and then just go to the table and trigger the tilda boss
It’s annoying to me that you can’t go there after completing the story. Just says you’re leaving the map.
U can
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@@falcongaming2245 they mean normally
I hoped that would be a new (second) base for them.
Im thinking they have something plan for it ... it doesnt feel right that it was only used as the final battle maybe a future dlc as an cauldron
Or even have a cutscene during the end where Apollo is teaching people from every tribe, a medical pod giving Kotallo a new arm, the base's industry is being restored to build some equipment for people, the rusted sections are slowly replaced with basic staircases, etc.
Literally the only complaint i have about this game is how loud the whistle is.
omg yes
So much yes
*Aloy whistle somewhere in Forbidden West*
*Someone somewhere in Alaska*
- Did someone says my name ?
@@OutCast907 Sunwing from Alaska 😅😂
Loved the grapple onto the flying mount, so damn cool.
I love this game its absolutely beautiful
That's really cool. Will have to try this. I'd hoped we could go back after the end of the game, but it straight up resets you if you get too close.
8:08 fiery interloper detected initiating immortal stasis mode😂
I loved the first games shield weaver armor and the fact that you can get it at level 7 by sequence breaking. Too bad they didn't let us do the same in this game let alone give us the shield weaver armor.
canonically it got badly damaged during alloy's travels searching for gia, and lost all her gear in the process, made me almost cry seeing what was left of the weaver armor that became the nora anointed starting armor, and the loss of my carja shadowcaster, shadowhunter bow, and several other very strong tools i got early on from just hunting machines.
@@rignatetris4435 ,
It provides an in-game reason for why Aloy is getting/farming/leveling gear up throughout her travels in the Forbidden West, which is a core game mechanic...
And that salvage contracts armour is so sh*t aswell how tf did a shellsnappers slap kill me and my 513 health bar
@@xylophone3764its a melee offense armor. If u know how to use ur resonator and the new grapple strike skill properly, its OP af
Wouldn't it have been easier to just place a flying Eric there that auto aggros on you and still has his shield?
What if you didn't know yet the Zeniths existed
@@grettelv8653 that's a situation that can't arise. Currents keep you from swimming to the base. But in order to fly there, you have to complete wings of the ten, the penultimate quest of the game.
Heh. So I'm not the only one that kept wearing the Sobeck outfit for the rest of the game? 🤣
This is an incredible game. This year one of the best for sure
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First time I saw this when I was exploring the map, I knew it had to be the Zenith base. It was too new and futuristic looking.
Honestly looking at the landscape, it reminds me so much of Death Stranding. You can definitely see Kojima Productions influence on the game engine here.
You're definitely trolling right? 😂
@@RazKob33 no im not? Wasnt it said by them that the decima engine was worked on both kojima productions and guerilla games? They sent it back and forth between the studios during the development of Death Stranding adding a whole new set of features.
@@RazKob33 if you think he is trolling you sure as ignorant as hell. Both games use same engine and the Decima engine was offered by Guerilla to Kojima for DS and the new scan mechanic and a lot of other elements are inspired by Kojima along with a common phrase "Keeping on Keeping on" found in delivery terminals in DS and also in the Julius AI logs in FW. Not to mention all the easter eggs and collabs both games did before
@@MaxC_1 First of all; are you salty bruh? 😂
2nd: I know about both companies collaborating with each other. I've encountered several Easter eggs on HZD. I just asked a question. Not out of being insulting, but more on a lighter note to the bloke. Chill
@@MavihsLH Oh ok! Wasn't trying to be a prick though! Thanks for the reply mate!
I found myself laughing my ass off when he couldn't get back on the Sunwing at the end for some reason.
This is the real future game
True
what is left of them.
The views are just mesmerising...... Really want this to launch on pc at the earliest
Ojalá que no ,los de PC arruinan todos los juegos con sus MODS
@@faqumartinez6301 sin los pc ni siquiera estarias jugando el HFW
@@faqumartinez6301 just dont download the mods lol
The thing that stood out to me the most is you're wearing the Sobeck Raiment. I couldn't do it. After Aloy expressed her open disgust of the outfit, putting it on felt too weird!
I just finished the game & now going to work on my side quests I didn’t finish. I loved this game!! Brilliant.
Thanks for this! I was able to reveal the last part of the map. :D
I remember people asking why didnt Frodo just ride the eagle with Gandalf to drop the ring in Mount Doom. Your video sort of gives me the answer lol
If the eagle got hungry, Frodo was the closest source of fresh meat
If the devs were extra smart they could have done a Cyberpunk thing and made a deliberate hole in the shield, underwater cave or something, or at least some secrete dialogue with an NPC at a very specific (small window) time and made a super secrete ending option where Aloy goes it alone for an Ultra-hard experience and secret ending.
This game is just a masterpiece of single player action. I love games where they say fuck MTP action
I explored every cm of horizon map and enjoyed each moment of gameplay ,,,was sad when I have to go to that island to have final battle and next day 😢 ,, my hours of enjoyment gone ,,,, will pay zero dawn again from start 😄
That’s what I’m doing right now. I finished HFW and now I’m playing HZD again and then I’ll play HFW again. They are my absolute favorite games.
Actually there was a talk about the force shield around the island of Zeniths in the beginning of the Singularity mission mind you. So it is explained in the script.
You have an interesting way of going past the shields - I fly in from the rim of the map where the shields disappear
I’m currently trying to get in there do you think you can do a more detailed response on how you get in?
The Sphere collider in this game is thin as 1 layer of papper, that why the object can piercing it by use 2 objects that are pushing each other. The developer team should add Sphere Colider with thick skins. Like 30 layer of pappers
Honestly it was dumb not letting us go after the end of the game
Clever bug exploitation though you couldn’t really do much once in the area past break the game 😂. How you work out the bugs to use ?
The barrier was always there thats why you end up going underneath it.
This was the perfect opportunity to go the subnautica route and just have a bunch of specters swarm you until you die, instead of doing the boring invisible wall thing.
7:47 I swear that looks like a pokemon
I don't like this. It would have been the perfect occasion to summon neverending spectres at you just to make sure Aloy can't possibly survive, but if she somehow manages to escape it would have been the perfect occasion to include the dialogue when discussing the assault on the base.
hahahaha, I really like the LP and you tryin :-) I can´t wait to be there!
Very interesting!
I have only seen this from a distance but I really like the mic
xture of new and ancient architecture. I am guessing that this was the original Far Zenith base?
Keep playing. It’ll be clear soon
honestly the barrier doesn’t bother me that much, giving the zeniths are all protected by personal barriers, this is an explainable choice. They could also just point a huge ass laser at you once you fly over the border, or generate endless specters to through at you, or simply telling you that your focus is overloading there's no way infiltrate this area and cut to black to send you back. To me they are all just versions of "draw bridge you cannot drop yet, come back later", as long as they are logical in the sense of story telling, it's a good job done.
Its supposed to be an open world game, but in reality its a simple linear adventure game with some RPG grind mechanics. The excitement of exploration is killed by the three main game barriers. Also they play many tricks with maps, removing fires, anchor points, so certain things only happen once on a mission and not before or after.
Aloy got to the barrier and was like “LET ME IIINNNNNNNNN!”
i like how in this case the barrier actually makes sense and isnt just an invisible wall its like, "ya they have this kind of tech so that makes sense"
Really sucks that you can’t go back there to explore after completing the game!
I know! As if Alva didn’t geek out over the tech and make it accessible to the public?
I reckon in the DLC we'll go back there to retrieve Hephaestus. Maybe it'll have learnt to build Spectre drones and we can figure out how to install the zenith 3D printer into cauldrons.
I bet you didn't expect this heliodo bug haha
I would have mad it so the barrier didn’t push you away, but instead allowed you to walk through but disabled all your tech, including creatures, so you won’t be able to defend yourself or run away other than basic movement, and “deactivate” your creatures.
with her red hair, a modded melania future outfit would be dope
They didn’t just take inspiration from Greek mythology, but also Greek architecture. Look at all that white and gold.
why greek era?
@@CaptainPilipinas when I look at the architecture here, it reminds me of the Pantheon. Plus there’s all the computer AIs named after Greek gods and titans like Gaia and Hades.
@@stephenking5852 every AI got his name for a Greek God or demigod (with the exception of Minerva which does not belong to Greek mythology)
- Gaia (Γαία) primordial goddess of the earth.
- Aether (Αιθέρας) primordial god of the heavens.
(A little Greek info, Apollo and Artemis they were brothers)
- Apollo (Απόλλωνας) god of the sun, prophecy, music, and poetry.
- Artemis (Άρτεμις) goddess of the moon, hunting, and the wilds.
- Demeter (Δήμητρα) goddess of the harvest.
- Eleuthia (Ειλείθυια) goddess of childbirth.
- Hades (Άδης) god of the underworld and the dead.
- Hephaestus (Ηφαιστος) god of the fire and forge.
- Minerva (Μινέρβα) goddess of wisdom, ingenuity, and battle.
(as far as I know it is the equivalent of the Goddess Athena (Αθηνά)
- Poseidon (Ποσειδώνας) god of the seas
@@MASTERSOT Oh I know them all, but I’m surprised you added the original Greek names and spelling!
@@stephenking5852 since I am Greek it was simple to add them 😆
That glidewing is super handy! 😎
That change of weather was very smooth...
it'd be awesome if devs thought of stuff like this and if you glitch in a special type of robot would hunt you down or something.
Or Erick pops up with his shield intact to play with you. Having Erick so a self-satisfied smirk as he hunts down the main character, while all your weapons are doing zero damage. Final image is of Erick smirking directly at the screen, as though he is staring at the player, while the screen slowly goes dark.
Not super far in the game, loving your content! Where do you get this outfit/skin? Thanks!
You get it by doing the faro main story quest (can’t remember the name) and it’s right near the end of the game. Hope this helped :)
@@invadeandraid thank you!! I figured it was story n near end
It’s called Sobeck’s Raiment.
@@stephenking5852 alright
Seeds of the Past main mission
I am more amazed by the fact that you kept that armor!
It does look kinda cool and unique so why not?
@@ahmetbal5973 fair enough. 😁
I was mad cause it was the stronger than my, at the time, armor but Aloy absolutely hated it💀
I kept the look of that armour from the moment Aloy was given it. I love how simple it looked.
@@Forest_Pilot well u do know u can keep the stats and change the look like i keep the carja blazion look while using different armors
I guess it makes aense that their base is shielded with the same shield all zeniths use but i think it would be funnier just getting swarmed by spectures if you go there way before the game intended
In the first game you could actually fight that one stormbird early in the campaign when your at that point in the story where you clime that hill
I bought this game about a week or two ago and I haven't played too much of it and I never knew you can ride on one of those winged machines! Now i have to play this game 🤣
You don't get to mount them until late game though. Best bet is to save side quest until near the end and once you unlock Sunwing overides just fly around and quest away.
its an amazing game, youre missing out. definitely play it
Does anyone know a little square building on the shore line all the way south west (no name to identify) where there are 4 soldiers inside it. Near the large Spinosaurus but just a hair east of him.
If you get close they give you a warning to stay away barbarian and to me that means come kills us please. Well in my good graces I get inside or just near the wall and it’s a huge “WTF?” Moment. I die instantly even if they don’t hit me.
Anyone else run into this scenario and what the deal is?
Yeah same thing here. I defeat the slaughterspine. I feel like a boss. Go upto the shack, get told to leave thinking these guys aren't the boss of me and that I wanted to see who they are. I attack them then a secret service sniper just takes me down.
@@gageshippy2256 I know one of them had a big old gun and hit me from a distance and I took that well. It wasn’t till I got 10 to 15 feet from it or just inside and down I go. I tried a few times till I knew there was no winning. 😂
Plot armour. There are no soldiers once you complete a specific main quest that opens up the Quen island (San francisco) for exploration
@@shantanubayaskar I wouldn't say just plot armor but also plot sniper.
Nice Solution of the developers. You can try to fool them, but at the end they still hold the key in their hands.
I hate that even after finishing the story I couldn’t go back to the Zenith Island. In the game context the shield protecting the base makes all sense
You can fly on machines now? Finally
Still no Thunderjaw riding :(! Was sooo hoping for that ...
A bit like how you could break into locations early in HZD to get the power cells for the shield weaver armour.
lol that was the most aggravating thing ever. i was on the verge of tears doing those exploits to get the shield weaver armor. but damn, sure made the rest of the story a hell of a lot easier. 😂
@@camdenb_ WAIT YOU COULD CHEAT TO GET THEM
DO YOU KNOW HOW SCARED I WAS GOING THROUGH THE MISSION WHERE YOU HAD TO EXPLODE ALL THOSE GREEN EXPLODING BARRELS
Imagine someone finding this before they know about the zeniths
Great job glitching through the shield :D
But what if you go to Zar Fenith?… 👀
The amount of invisible walls in this game is really infuriating
You must have never played zero dawn
They did put more effort in it than how usual games do it
I like how that Spectre just does not care.
Stuck at the end😂😂😂
RELOAD
There's always story mode!!
Invisible walls can instantly make the most polished games feel unpolished to me
Know what you mean, but in this case you could expect the Zeniths to have a protective shield around their base?
Everyone debating about bad area unlocking progression, they did it much better in the DLC tho! The towers shooting any opponents out of the sky were very interesting to work around when I was still exploring.
very cool video! I like to break the boundries of game sometimes
wait you can fly on forbidden west? i just started playing this game im currently playing zero dawn and im nowhere near finishing the game , this got me hyped to play forbidden west all of a sudden, but i dont want to ruin the story .
you can override that machine later in the game.
@@xpercipio on zero dawn ? watched a couple of videos on yt it says that you cant ride those machines though
@@rickyrolls6460 only FB
@@xpercipio fb?
@@rickyrolls6460 i meant to type fw. Forbidden west
Interesting, After completing the Main Story, the game does not allow you to fly over the Base.....
After completing the game u can go back i already made a video u can check it.
@@falcongaming2245 When I tried, I got the out of map warning and the game steered me away from the Base....
Will give it another try using your route.
@@falcongaming2245 Ok its like a Wall you can't fly through, but you can walk through and once past the wall you can fly un-restricted.... Nice Glitch.
What's needed now is a way to stop the game kicking you back to your last save if you fly too far out of map:P
@@falcongaming2245 can you put a URL up for it please 🙏
@@airael777 i will make a full video of this today
i loved the first game cant wait for this to come to pc
You also can’t go back afterwards. It becomes classified as beyond the game’s map.
Don't forget to scan them before and after defeating them
why after?
@@mds525700 Bc you won’t be able to get the trophy needed to scan every machine
@@MaliciousLeo trust me you dont need to scan them before and then again after they're dead. Once is enough.
@@MaliciousLeo I got that trophy right after scanning the final boss with the initial scan. When they’re dead isn’t necessary.
I’ll save 9 mins of your life: will NOTHING happen.
I like your video and i subscribe your channel. Keep upload video bro
there are so many funny bugs like cliping trought buildings