Which Sonic The Hedgehog has the BEST Knuckles Design?
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It's ya boi Knuckles! Knuckles the Echidna won my poll for my next character to look at the design of next, edging out Miles Tails Prower and Shadow the Hedgehog! Today we'll find out which Sonic The Hedgehog has the best Knuckles design, whilst also looking at Knuckles design evolution.
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Tougher than the rest of us
Unlike sonic I don't chuckle
I also like how he for some reason flies in the ova
Fun fact knuckles didn't have a pushing animation in sonic 3 and knuckles.
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I think Sonic Boom took the phrase, “unlike Sonic I don’t chuckle. I’d rather flex my muscles” a little too far...
J.R.
First scene he was EVER IN IN ALL OF SONIC HISTORY he laughed.
First thing Knuckles did was flex by knocking you out of Super and taking all the emeralds. Then he chuckled, but the flex always came first
“Do not cite the deep magic to me, Witch. I was there when it was written”
Basically, Knuckles is just a massive hypocrite. Lol
*dO yOu EvEn lIfT BrO*
Jalan Veasley n o n o t r e a l l y
“a hat. they gave him a hat”
best design. both ironically and unironically
I honestly really like the hat, it suits him well
Windows 95 yea lol
Yeah, ova knuckles is unironically the best design
I just like him with the hat, just suits him
It gives him that feeling of the last survivor of a race, walking around the world with only one goal, the promise he made to his people. And yes, I know they kinda abandoned the master emerald plotline for some reason but it still fits it very well
Oh my God, those were never legos, those were bolts, the european artwork makes it so much clear!
Still pretending it's lego!
Knuckles has the ultimate defense if someone wants to step on his foot.
Knuckles's true power is throwing legos at people's feet
@Praise God Everyday omg can be "OH MY GOSH"
@Praise God and Jesus Christ Forever oh my god oh my god oh my god god dammit
Rumour has it the marking on Knuckles' chest was a failed sponsorship with Nike.
It was supposed to look like the moon, as a contrast to the circle on Sonic's chest which looked like the sun
i thought it looked like a sideways white banana
In this interview with Knuckles' designer he mentions both the black bear (moon bear) and Nike influences on the chest marking: info . sonicretro . org/Takashi_Yuda_interview_by_Sega . jp_(November_2006)
When I first saw his design in Sonic 3, I thought it was a necklace. Apparently it was interpreted that way in the Fleetway comics
Knuckles' darker mouth in-game SA2 is actually some sort of lighting bug from the GameCube port and onwards. On Dreamcast it looks as you'd expect.
Yeah all the models are darker
I'm surprised you didn't bring attention to Knuckles' sprite's chest being closer to a tan skin tone, as opposed to other renditions of the character having a white chest thing.
I've never noticed this before and I hate it
@@spaceace9103 Sorry, if it makes you feel better the Mania design changed Knuckles' chest to white.
I love the sonic adventure art style it’s looks so cool. a tv show in that art style would be so sick
you mean Sonic X?
@@xoLoveTruelySucksxo nah man, Sonic X style isn't quite as bold as Yuji Uekawa's
xoLoveTruelySucksxo nah, Yuji Uekawa art style. The edgy style they had for sonic adventure and sonic adventure 2.
Sonic X is basically the same style except they do seem a bit shorter and less you know teenagy
@@geniuskhan2520 well if they had a show in that art style it would take a lot more time to make. Sonic x is the closest well ever get.
Something small that always eludes the modern designs that come after the Adventure titles for me are the cheeky, spiky teethed smiles that the characters have. Knuckles seemed to have maintained it a bit in some renditions, like Heroes, but Modern Sonic's smile is just blehhh. Almost kinda creepy to be honest. But yeah, have to agree with you. The Adventure era of designs were just magical in my opinion. Lovely, expressive, unique and striking artwork that built upon the classic designs and reflected each character well outside the game and in it with the great models that hold up well even today.
Knuckles had sharp teeth in the classic games as well
Penneguin those designs definitely fit the franchise aesthetic better, it wasn’t overtly edgy nor was it crudely uncanny. Sega Should really bring those back
I love the one from Sonic X a lot . The anime-like artstyle works so well for him . Though his personallity in X lost the weird charm he normally has , I cannot put my finger on it though .
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Yeah, he’s definitely one of the better looking characters in that style. I’m not the biggest fan of how they handled him in that show though, even when he was in the right about something, everyone else still always mocked him and acted like he was the one being unreasonable. When I watched the show, I was always hoping there was gonna be an episode where the other characters learn their lesson and start treating him as a friend rather than a punching bag, but that episode never came.
When I look at Knuckles, I see wild and dangerous, but laid-back and heroic. He has similarities to Sonic, but still differences that put more emphasis on his character. They both have spines, but while Sonic's spiky like hair is more energetic, Knuckles dreads are more laid-back. Although it's rumored that it was a meant for a failed sponsorship, the crest is meant to signify the moon, while Sonic's belly is meant to signify the sun. It really shows their opposite beliefs, despite having similar attitudes. I got to say, I don't like modern Knuckles design. It looks like he has no skull, however, it's miles better than his Underground design, where he looks like a pinhead.
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That makes me really sad that they replaced him with Shadow as Sonic's friendly rival and just turned him into an airhead side character. No hate on Shadow, but Knuckles had SO MUCH potential that it's kinda depressing they dropped him so fast after the classic games
@@phari4820 Yeah, although in the Archie comics, they treat both characters as friendly rivals. And they only act dumb within their character. Both are actually very smart, and are very well written. They’re even considered as the strongest beings in the universe. No more hotheaded Knuckles and edgelord Shadow. It’s too bad they aren’t written that way in IDW.
who're you callin pinhead?
0:18 Knuckles, are your eyes ok?
He needs to get some sleep
Sonic Adventure 1 + 2's artwork, definitely bring out the best designs (Dr. Eggman for me having the best redesign). Still always enjoyed the Sonic Advance sprites, which bring in the modern look brilliantly in my opinion.
I personally think the Sonic advance series is the best any of these characters have ever looked
xerosagas yup yuji uekawa’s art was best interpreted in those games
His flame uppercuts is also a nice addition to his character I wish that came back in future titles
Agreed! The run cycle of Sonic and the others is unmatched in that series.
This is a fact.
yes
I've never liked Knuckles' "Modern" design from '06 to present, and only after seeing so many designs of the character in one video did it finally dawn on me exactly why. His forehead is basically nonexistent, making the entire of his head look far too flat. This prematurely started in his Adventure 2 model, where he looks like he's been squished vertically. His Homer Simpson looking muzzle doesn't help, either.
You’re one of the first people I’ve seen point this out! I’ve always been more in favour of his longer muzzle, so it being canned combined with just how flat his head became has always made me feel like something was off. This was especially a problem for me with his Boom design, specifically in the cartoon since most times his eyes are COMPLETELY wide open, making his design pretty uncanny to me. The artists for the Sonic IDW comics seem to have fixed that problem, giving Knuckles his edge back while still keeping him as expressive as he was in Mania. I’d hope that can carry over in his future appearances, but I guess only time will tell.
I agree with this. His design peeked at the adventure games, with the artwork in particular.
Sonic Battle had my favorite character design in the series. It's sharp, colorful and super cool.
Oh boy its Knickles
13:09 I remember knuckles flew off into space like he did in the Sonic Boom glitch. Such a bizzar yet funny scene the producers added
Idgaf what anyone says, hat knuckles looks objectively better than the og
We need to be able to unlock costumes for the characters haha
Knuckles needs his hat back for the Sonic Movie sequel...
...or just in general.
BRING BACK THE HAT!!!!
At least a 5 minute cameo of him wearing one would be nice.
Just like Sonic's disguise to the bar
Knock knock, it’s another quality video!
0:40 I didn't have a clue how lucky I am to be living in this universe and not the one where Dreds the Echidna is a real thing
Adventure 2 knuckles with the sunglasses and other gear is my personal favorite design. I think the accessories really suit his personality.
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Knuckles is just amazing and a beast in the comics.... I wish more fans were into it.
I still occasionally think of him as being pink from the first cover art, which I think Sonic The Comic depicted him for a while.
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I've honestly always had a fondness for the Riders models since they're easily the most expressive 3D one's we've had and I like the lankiness tbh, but I'd have to agree with you if we're going on both ingame + artwork design. Its funny though since I actually always thought Knuckles was the only one who's Riders model seemed a little off.
Sonic adventure hands down
Honestly just the 6th generation in general
Anything other then the modern long hand design is good
THE OVA’S HAT.
"Meme!" * Stamps * "Approved!"
Ah yes Yuji Uekawa's artwork is amazing, honestly his drawings were my favorite designs for all the characters.
Sonic Boom and the first trailer for the Sonic movie shows starkly the difference between hating a new design because it’s different and hating a new design because it’s bad. The Boom designs are interesting and good designs that don’t align with the characters’ classic portrayals. The movie’s original design was just poorly constructed.
To be fair I think it's more than just that. I honestly was fine with the initial redesign of all the characters in Boom with the exception of Knuckles. Knuckles sort of stood out from the rest of the cast, and honestly, kind of looked goofy. This Knuckles had extra brawn, but I would say the problem was more so his roundness. Knuckles' original design was very angular giving off a bit of an attitude. The adventure design onwards was even more angular. The Boom design being as round as it is, sort of gets rid of that attitude Knuckles' had.
R0-83-RT It’s more fitting though for Boom’s characterization of him as a lunkhead. He’s a beefy idiot and the shape language effectively communicates that. He’s not sharp and angry, he’s round and lovable.
@@UltimateKyuubiFox If you view the characters as an individual entity it works, but the fact is Knuckles is an established character, makes such a departure seems off. Especially since Knuckles fans were already upset with Knuckles being taken less and less seriously within each proceeding game. Granted the fact this is a spinoff free to characterize the cast in its own way doesn't mean it affects the main continuity. Yet, it still feels kind of like a bit of a middle finger to Knuckles fan, feeling like Knuckles lost all the characterization that made him endearing.
Viewing Boom Knuckles in isolation he's basically a good version of Big The Cat, succeeding as a comedic relief in areas Big failed at.
I would say more than anything the design was made at a bad time. In a better time for Sonic, a separate continuity of games would be more acceptable.
UltimateKyuubiFox
My main problem with the Boom design is that it’s misleading. You would think this version would at least be particularly strong, yet he’s a complete pushover who can’t even put a dent in Metal Sonic. Mania Knuckles (aka the short cutesy version) one-shotted both Eggman and *SUPER* Metal Sonic with one swipe. And it’s not just Metal Sonic, literally everyone and everything in this show owns Boom Knuckles, it’s a freaking running joke at this point. The redesign isn’t there to signify that he’s strong, it’s there to signify that he’s stupid and useless.
I like that even though there's some goofy editing and jokes, you approach this video seriously while providing meaningful insight & discussion on Knuckles' various designs.
Always gonna love the official Knux art from the dreamcast era ^.^
I think recent 3D models have gone a little too far with his gloves and boots. They look even more massive than with the rest of the cast for some reason, he probably needs a bigger torso to compensate.
I'd say that Knuckles is one of the best designed Sonic characters ever, along with Silver, Team Chaotix, Blaze, Jet, and Sonic of course (Dr. Eggman and Infinite get an honorable mention).
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Agreed. Though, did you know that Jet used to look even cooler? In some of his concept art, his limbs are more bird-like, which I think looked fantastic, but they ended up settling for a more standard version in the end.
@@rainpooper7088 Missed opportunity, would of made him more unique like how Vector has a crocodile mouth instead of a muzzle or how Sticks has no gloves. The only thing that seperates birds and bird-alien-babylons from other animals are their beaks and tails.
Rainpooper I saw that. Even if they didn’t want them to have bird like hands they could have just made wings in the back of them instead of giving birds no wings but I guess one reason they may not have wings because apparently the Babylon Rogues are aliens idk.
@@parisedits5453 They should have given them elbow wings like ritos from The Legend of Zelda.
Mah boi Knuckles!
His model in SA2 is probably the best he's looked in 3D. I still wish they kept his darker muzzle color. (Same for the rest of the cast)
I haven't liked Knux's in-game model used since Generations. Something looks off; like they softened his design. (Also, I always saw the "Legos" on his shoes as something akin to a motor or engine.)
A MUZZLE! That's what it's called. I've been calling it 'mouth area' ffs lmao.
I give the top spot to the Mania design, personally.
I never noticed he had purple eyes before this video
I was the same before I started working on this one!
I personally think the Knuckles Design from S3&K and Sonic 06 upon seeing this video hold the best spots because there is beauty in simplicity. For the 06, they did a tad bit of refinement with his gloves and made it look more handcrafted. Im so glad this concept was not used on his fur.
My BOI kunx gets his own vid
Of course!
Im going to say this before even watching. I strangly love his original profile design. Theres just somthing about his head and face being a bit pointier i like. Mania adventure design is pretty good as well.
Mania Adventures is excellent, the section where he punches Metal Sonic through the wall is too funny lmao.
I remember seeing that first picture of him 4:25 in the Fleetway comic and wasn't really sure what to think. Thinking about it now, his buckled straps I agree it doesn't really fit him unlike Tails who's classic design had a similar thing going on with both his gloves and shoes, more or less highlighting he's still a kid and is still to grow into them.
I think probably the Adventure art is my favourite, and as I said before if there was to be a remake of SA1 I'd love to see it cel shaded in that style. It won't happen but that's the dream.
Fingers crossed we see Knuckles, along with the others return as playable characters in the next mainline game as it's been *14 YEARS* since Sonic 06 which was everyone who wasn't Sonic's last hurrah.
Also I miss serious Knuckles (as well as brave Tails) as much as I miss gigs in the current climate... which is alot.
11:59
"Apollo Knuckles" is kind of terrifying
Now that the Sonic Movie 2 has shown Knuckles, I think that has became my favorite Knuckles design. He actually seems like the strong and independent fighter he’s supposed to be. Plus Idris Elba’s voice makes him very intimidating. Can’t wait to see him in action.
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I personally think Knuckles looks a lot better in 2D than in 3D, but I think that’s more because when the models started actually getting polished, they had already stopped giving a damn about character expression. Especially his quills were dumbed down to act like a longer version of Amy’s hair rather than the crazy dreads we knew and loved. I also think his fists and eyes are too big on the modern design, he looks oddly disproportionate despite the SA art having even bigger fists. I think a skilled 3D animator could make his design work and replicate the amount of expression the SA artworks had though, it just hasn’t happened yet to my knowledge.
I unapologetically love his 06 design. Other favorites are also SA2, Sonic Battle and Sonic Riders. SB and SR especially have such great and unique art styles. One of the worst things about Free Riders was that they went back to the standard vanilla designs.
I honestly love the Arts style in Sonic Adventures and how everyone is written no one was meant to look bad
I actually think it’s next to impossible to not make something look cool in the SA2 art style
His design in Sonic R's cover art is definitely the best.
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safe to say that idris did him justice in the sonic 2 movie
honestly, i still like fleetway knuckles and his cresent moon being a wearable necklace. it gives you that impression knuckles wasn't alone, that there was a lineage of some sort and it finally got passed to him at a point in time before he got teleported out of the past and to sonic's time.
Great video once again! Is it just me or does Knuckles' head look flatter in 3d than it does in 2d?
DaanDanx Most 2D artwork gives him a much more rounded head
Knuckles was such an amazing character design that he turned what was supposed to be a duo (Sonic & Tails) into one of the GREAT Trios of Gaming! Well done Knux!
Someone: blah blah blah knuckles blah blah blah
Everyone everywhere ever: there is another
That scenne where he flies into the space in the boom show is a reference to the infinite jump glitch he ha in the game, if he had started noclipping stuck in a TPose it would have been even funnier, but maybe a bit too on the nose, this version of Knuckles is my secon favorite, but unlike the other characters who are different itterations of themselves, this version of Knuckle's basically a new character.
I love Knuckles' design in Boom. I hope they bring it back.
My Top Favorite Knuckles Designs
1. Movie Knuckles
2. '06 Knuckles
3. Modern Knuckles
4. Light Mobius Knuckles
5. Boom Knuckles
I'm kinda surprised that you didn't mention his design from Sonic the Black Knight.
5:29 I think you might be misunderstanding Knuckles' two different palettes. AFAIK, his colors simply change depending if it's CPU Knuckles, or player-controlled Knux (darker colors). And I believe this is consistent between both halves of Sonic 3 & K.
I've discovered your channel today and good work! You have very informative and fun videos. Here some ideas for new character design videos:
-Aerith Gainsborough
-Samus Aran
-Zelda
-Lara Croft
-Leon Kennedy
Samus video already exists! Check the play list! Aerith video coming at some point soon I hope!
I think you should also briefly mention things like the Sonic Channel Artwork of the characters. They're done by Yuji Uekawa, same guy who did the artwork for Adventure 1, 2, and the Advanced games, but every year he slightly changes up the stylings of the characters. 2019 in particular has been my favorite set as you got the really cool dynamic action poses coupled with really nice line work sorta similar to Sonic Battle.
The beginning with a plush video style for 5 seconds with your editing looks so cool
Knuckles, I feel, has some of the most drastic changes in terms of design (aside from Eggman), but at the same time, I feel they are the most confidently solid changes. I really like most of Knuckles designs from Classic, to Adventure, and especially Boom. Although, I can’t wait to see how he will look in the Sonic Movie universe, since the echidna tribe looked so fantastic in the few seconds they were on screen.
I♡Sonic N' Knux no matter how old I get lol😄 I like the classic N' advanced adventure one's. Awesome vid dude.
My favorite Modern Knuckles design is the CG design (Shadow the Hedgehog and onwards).
My favorite Classic Knuckles is of course Tyson Hesse's.
My favorite looks for the characters will always be Yuji Uekawa's 2D art for the Adventure and Advance games. I hope if Adventure remakes happen, the characters look true to their looks in those games, rather than just throwing in the modern models, like how they redesigned Crash Bandicoot for the N Sane trilogy, rather than just using his Mind Over Mutant model.
Can't wait for the reaction to the new Knuckles design.
11:54 - The designs all look really good in this style, very expressive and nicely colored. The only thing I dislike is how short Sonic's spines are, I wish they were more like this promotional artwork: images.app.goo.gl/JJuHQtwSnkBKnfGY7. I do wish you talked more about Rider Knuckles, besides that I enjoyed this video.
I'm a huge fan of Yuji Uekawa's style and it will always be what Sonic looks like to me
The OVA design, with the cowboy hat.
It's the coolest one, that or the design in SA2 with all of the accessories.
Love all the SA2 sonic models
Character Symbols:
Sonic = Sun (Casino Night Zone)
Tails = Moon (Casino Night Zone)
Knuckles = Earth (lol)
Knuckles chest is the moon
@@wanacrymaguire9186 . please play Casino Night Zone again and notice the symbolism. 🤦♂️
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I gotta say, for me it's definitely a tie between Advance, Chaotix and Mania.
The Advance sprite just oozes personality, but I also adore the glide animation from Chaotix, and the Mania spritework is just gorgeous all around
I think the next design you should look at should be Super Sonic - he had MANY variations and differences through many games and media and I think that'd make a great video!
do you take suggestions for these videos or is it out of a set list?
either way, love the video and this series in general! analyzing character designs has always been an interesting topic to contrast opinions and such, keep it up!
Always will listen to suggestions! Sometimes they get added to a list for the future though lol
@@ArtistMarkFlynn Thanks! I'd love to eventually see one on King Dedede and one on Meta Knight in the future!
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So glad you featured Richard Elson's Knuckles. I feel like it captured the style of the MD games very well.
Yes! His work was great!
I just noticed something.
At around 7:53, the 1 meter mark is at the top of his quills, not where the top of his head would be (assuming he has a normally shaped skull, and doesn't have bones in his quills or something.)
It appears that Sonic and Amy are actually the same height! Sonic's hair just makes him look taller.
I do agree with this design! However, it was a hard pick for me between the Adventure 2 design & the Advance designs.
Sonic Adventure 2 really imprinted on my brain about the angular look for Knuckles. Sonic is smooth and aerodynamic while Knuckle's more angular design emphasizes the more serious and stronger traits he shows.
Fun fact: the crestent (or how you spell it) is actually something Tasmanian Devils (another animal native in Australia) has IRL.
Not gonna lie
Sonic heroes knuckles was a pretty cool adaptation of his character. He was a chill “big brother “ to sonic and tails
Once again, the intro is everything 😂
My favorite Knuckles design is the modern day Knuckles only looking better in CGI.
I love pretty much all of the Sonic Advance sprites, except for his default standing.
I actually agree with the final decision. I didn’t think that’s where you were going to land the way you were talking. Heroes started a design that Soli evolved into something better, but still has treats left over. His hands look a lot bigger, his feet or more blockier..... I don’t know how to explain it, but I feel like his muzzle got less pointy. Like it’s there, but from the front it looks like they took two points on the sides of his muzzle and extended them outward to make his face look kind of square. I don’t know what it is, but his head looks more flat on the top as well. I prefer him having more of a capsule shaped head. Like it used to look more like a forward facing football and now it looks more like a football helmet.
Honestly, Boom Knuckles would look good if it weren't for those chicken legs.
I like the shiny look, it's better than if they tried realistic fur, and it's more stylized. It makes them look like toys, which in this context is a good thing.
Knuckles and Tails's designs in Mania promotional material looks to me like their modern designs but with black eyes. They do a fantastic job at bringing together the best of both those eras' designs. The same goes for Sonic, except he is noticeably more chubby than modern Sonic.
The European Sonic 3 boxart may pale in comparison to some of the others, but I think that crooked smirk complimented his initial villainy pretty well, and it was nice to see that it made it's way into the comics.
Speaking of which, it's curious that you didn't mention the crescent moon design on his chest and how western artists interpreted it through the 90's. That would've been a nice bit of detail to go into. :)
Knuckles the Brochidna will probably always be my favorite iteration. It was when they revealed the character redesigns, and I was solidified when I first heard his dialogue in the TV series:
"I don't forsee any problems trying doing with my hands, what the world's fastest runner does with his feet."
My top 2 favorite Knuckles designs are the SADX Knuckles design (both in game and art form,) and Mania Knuckles (sprite and box art.)
I think baring the shininess of the Heroes models, they are genuinely good. Probably my second favorite model next to SA2.
That's a legit style. I mainly stick to the classics, but that looks good.
I hate the current Knuckles CGI model. He's so charmless and devoid of personality and that hint of edge that made the previous ones stand out (a metaphor for the current Sonic era itself :I)
My favorite Knuckles model is from Sonic Riders, it's very rudimentary by today's standards, but it was so expressive, and he had the jagged teeth from the SA and SA2 artwork that I really love. Shark teeth on an anime-like design like this doesn't look out of place, or try hard. No one calls Kirishima from Boku No Hero Academia edgy. And if anything the sharp teeth really fit Knuckles as a character.
This feels more like a video of dude talking about how much he prefers the original knuckles design and color pallet over the new. Honestly.
I THINK i LIKE THE CLASSIC DESIGN AND THE CG POILSH ON THE MODERN DESIGN, DESIGN.
Knuckles with the cowboy hat is the best. I wish they kept it
It's because Ken Penders also used it as shown and he is aggressive about his ideas, even if there aren't his
Sonic Adventure 2 is honestly the best and his coolest look in model, personality and Pallet. He looked striking, rough and he was calm but still kinda goofy