The BEST Shadow the Hedgehog Design?

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    Shadow the Hedgehog is one of the most popular Sonic the Hedgehog characters of all time in both a genuine and ironic sense. Genuinely, because he arrived in a game that would be monumentally popular and ironically, because his characterisation became so edgy over the years that it couldn’t not be made fun of. He’s the perfect encapsulation of the attitude that dominated Sonic’s foray into the early 2000’s, and his anti-hero demeanour was established perfectly through modifications to Sonic the Hedgehog’s established Sonic Adventure design. In the modern day you probably love or hate him, but his popularity can’t be denied... Even if he is basically just a hedgehog version of Vegeta from Dragonball Z. But regardless of what we all think, his design is a memorable one that’s appeared in a huge amount of Sonic the Hedgehog games over almost a decade. Holy crap, does that make me feel old.
    But which game nailed this look better? Well that’s the point of this video! We’ll go through a brief history of the character today and look at the different design iterations he’s had since he Chaos Controlled into the series. I’m the Artist Mark Flynn and let’s find out which Shadow the Hedgehog Design I think, truly is best.
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  • @ArtistMarkFlynn
    @ArtistMarkFlynn  4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

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    • @ENNARDENTERTAINMENT19871983
      @ENNARDENTERTAINMENT19871983 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I honestly prefer the sonic 06 shadow design over any other one

    • @AnnaD1xa
      @AnnaD1xa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is the best tyrant design
      (resident evil) ?

    • @thomaswalsh7090
      @thomaswalsh7090 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you do sora from kingdom hearts series please

    • @Mugboi2346
      @Mugboi2346 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok

    • @frankgiovanni9214
      @frankgiovanni9214 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Instablaster

  • @whatisthis771
    @whatisthis771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +435

    The concept art versions of shadow really do look like a fan character

    • @aceofclubs8000
      @aceofclubs8000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I really wanna like this but it has 69 likes.

    • @littenfire3563
      @littenfire3563 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      More like bad fan characters. Which unfortunately, are ajat most Sonic fan characters are

    • @realfromtherealreality4148
      @realfromtherealreality4148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kinda looked like a less snarky, entertaining, and admitly ridiculous Scourge from the Archie comics. (So just boring)

    • @thatkindofboi9955
      @thatkindofboi9955 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      OH CEEE D O N U T S T E E L

    • @Plasmariel
      @Plasmariel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That simply means every fan character has potential, but they're still in their beta phase

  • @Razor-Blade
    @Razor-Blade 4 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    I don’t like how they tried giving him muscles on his arms in the concept art. Buff hedgehogs are scary

    • @emceemunchapussy1891
      @emceemunchapussy1891 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Didn't stop knuckles.

    • @HiperPivociarz
      @HiperPivociarz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@emceemunchapussy1891 Knuckles is an echidna, dummy. Buff echidnas are fine xd

    • @HiperPivociarz
      @HiperPivociarz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Buff Sonic characters can look good, if the muscles are cartoony, and fit the style, like with Boom Knuckles, or Storm the Albatross

    • @Peikkey
      @Peikkey 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ikr

    • @ArpeggioPegasusMusic
      @ArpeggioPegasusMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      > Sonic the Werehog

  • @notbootstrap750
    @notbootstrap750 4 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    Can't take the renders of Shadow the hedgehog 2005 seriously anymore, they have been memed to death, which is sad because it's my favorite design.

    • @DemonDethchase
      @DemonDethchase 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      I can't take Shadow's opening seriously at all, with him against the moon, locking and loading.
      I can remember hearing the gun was born from kids writing to Sega saying, "we want Sonic to get a gun!" Only for Sega to be, "well we can't let Sonic use a gun, lets just have Shadow use one." Who were those kids!? And why did you think that was a good idea Sega!?

    • @najadamu2724
      @najadamu2724 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@DemonDethchase Thinking about those kids reminds me of that Simpsons episode where they introduced Poochie

    • @cyan.6399
      @cyan.6399 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Shadow the Game's CGI feels like the 2010s.. before the 2010s. The style is present but not the stiffness and characters are still rounder and more rubbery to an extent that you can see how it might've been rooted in the DC games. I personally see it as the peak for the cast as a whole in terms of 3D.

    • @LilXancheX
      @LilXancheX 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DemonDethchasebecause it is? Guns are cool, as “edgy” as that sounds, it’s actually not. Guns are one of the most dangerous coolest things known to man. And seeing a black hedgehog wield one, is downright badass. I don’t know why people hate that. Just cuz shadow has magic powers doesn’t mean he can’t hold a weapon, sometimes sparkles and glitter ain’t so cool in tv shows and sometimes you wanna go a more serious route and show off dangerous actual weapons that exist in real life. Not silly chaos control magic with cute little glitter sparkle, nah, I wanna see some action! An ak47 locked and loaded 🔥
      And yet you don’t find that cool?…

  • @MostAttractiveDudeInTown
    @MostAttractiveDudeInTown 4 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Shadow is like on of the only dark clone characters that survived longer than 2 games .
    Congradgulations Shadow The Edgehog .👏

    • @clothed_tigreproductions411
      @clothed_tigreproductions411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, some didn't even appear in a second game. Or even have the chance of doing so *Cough* Dark Pit *Cough*

    • @somedude3820
      @somedude3820 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Part of what made Shadow such a strong "dark clone" character is that he's one of the few "dark clone" characters who's motivations don't involve the character he's mirroring at all. From the get go, none of Shadow's motivations relied on Sonic and up until every character got butchered in colours and onward this remained true for Shadow.

  • @MrJilly2007
    @MrJilly2007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    "Over almost a decade."
    2 decades, Mark. 2 decades.

  • @ThePonderer
    @ThePonderer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    I literally just woke up the second you posted this. It’s like fate.

  • @domocat6473
    @domocat6473 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Shadow the hedgehog is such a misunderstood character I mean believe me I love The jokes but there’s really something to look at there about him being the sonic of the early 2000s

  • @docblack59
    @docblack59 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Honestly Shadow in SA2, Heroes, and 06 wasn’t really edgy. By his 2nd fight against Sonic in SA2 he is intrigued by Sonic and compliments his skill, by time they are fighting final hazard he says he believes that Sonic is the ultimate life form, Shadow knew how to be humble, hell when Amy hugs him mistaking him for Sonic he just smiles while looking back at her. Then there was when he saved Rouge. Then you have his interactions with Rouge and Omega in heroes and 06, he genuinely cares for the 2 and when Omega tells him he kills Shadow in the future she has a reaction of disbelief. Remember his quote from 06 “if the world chooses to become my enemy, then I will fight like I always have.” It’s only in the Pontiac and Graff games where he acts more like some Vegeta knock-off and apparently with what recently happened in IDW Sonic not even Ian Flynn wanted him to be as stupid as he was written to be.

    • @brandonbrown6922
      @brandonbrown6922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh, and remember, Team Dark aren't friends, it's just a brand according to Sega...
      SMH, so much hate for that.

  • @Serious_Face
    @Serious_Face 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    The pre rendered cutscenes in Shadow the hedgehog and 06 were done by blur studios not Sega

    • @ArtistMarkFlynn
      @ArtistMarkFlynn  4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      😲

    • @dojostudios6330
      @dojostudios6330 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I thought they were done by Marza Animation Planet, and that Blur Studio only did the movie

    • @kenanwallace2124
      @kenanwallace2124 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@dojostudios6330 Nah mate, While SEGA's in-house CG team have done most of the CG cutscenes, Blur Studios worked on the CG for Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic 06 the next year. That's why so many fans couldn't believe what they were seeing when we got our first look at the Sonic movie, knowing that they'd done a near perfect job before... 15 years ago.

    • @finleyforevermore
      @finleyforevermore 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They need to do every 3D cutscene. The normal cutscenes are really bad, while the pre-rendered ones are godly.

    • @misterpocho4628
      @misterpocho4628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@finleyforevermore that shit is expenise af

  • @Zomdra
    @Zomdra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    Hey, go easy on Kirk Thornton, he's a great voice actor. I will admit he's never sat quite right with me in this particular role though, I think the problem is that he just sounds too different from both of his predecessors, if his was the first Shadow voice I'd heard I think I'd like it more. I feel direction might be an issue too, the raspiness and attitude of his performance often feels obnoxiously forced, if you compare his Shadow to his performance as Saix in Kingdom Hearts you can hear what he should probably sound more like. His performance was noticeably better in Sonic Forces at least.

    • @ArtistMarkFlynn
      @ArtistMarkFlynn  4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Didn't mean to put blame on the VA at all. Just Shadow's voice stood out in that game because of the harsh change, it was definitely worth poking fun at!

    • @buster3041
      @buster3041 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      The direction is always the issue with all the actors in the games.

    • @r1s1ng_sun
      @r1s1ng_sun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I wish he sounded more like Saix from Kingdom Hearts because It fits Shadow more.

    • @loregasmic
      @loregasmic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I had no idea he was Saix. But damn, they made the voice of Axel play Silver. Maybe they should've gotten Roxas to play Sonic instead.

    • @repeate.6094
      @repeate.6094 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They should've said to kirk to do the voice he did for jin in samurai champloo

  • @annramirez1740
    @annramirez1740 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Calling shadow a hedgehog vegeta is technically incorrect and insulting to both characters. Vegeta is a prideful warrior who wants to surpass goku. I’m pretty sure shadow doesn’t have pride. Saying Shadow is like Vegeta is saying his main goal is to make Sonic look like a bitch (which it isn’t)
    And saying the vice versa is basically calling Vegeta a simp

    • @vexzel5773
      @vexzel5773 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I'm not sure I agree.
      I think Sonic is represented as the Hero like Goku (super sonic/super saiyan)
      Shadow the villain turned anti-Hero like Vegeta (super shadow/super saiyan)
      (And Silver the time traveling warrior from the future to stop a bad timeline = Trunks)
      I think he means to say that Sonic and Dragonball have similarities/parallels with their themes
      Another example is collecting mystical objects (7 chaos emeralds/7 Dragon balls)
      [And also its your opinion, BUT I like Dragon Ball AND Sonic. Calling Shadow is not insulting, they both are villains that come to destroy
      "But Shadow doesn't have pride!"
      Definition of pride - be especially proud of (a particular quality or skill)
      Here's a famous quote from Shadow
      *Faker? I think you're the fake around here. You're comparing yourself to me? Ha. You're not even good enough to be my fake.*
      Then moments after tries to make sonic look like a B, by beating him down

    • @ZeothTheHedgehog
      @ZeothTheHedgehog 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@vexzel5773 what makes either shadow or vegeta anti heroes? Vegeta yeah in the start of the frieza Saga but by the time of the cell saga he did mostly good. Yeah majin vegeta is a thing but he still at the end of the day died as hero trying to save everyone. Now on to shadow, *there isn't a single moment where he was portrayed as an anti hero.* he saved the earth after remembering maria's true final wish, helped stop metal overlord, saved the earth AGAIN from the black arms, also helped fight off solaris etc. I see no reason why shadow is an anti hero.

    • @vexzel5773
      @vexzel5773 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ZeothTheHedgehog An antihero is the main character of a story, but one who doesn't act like a typical hero. Antiheroes are often a little villainous.
      The definition of antihero
      Vegata was a villain whos intent was to destroy all life on earth
      Shadow intent was to destroy all life on earth
      Later on would have a change of heart and not act on that intent
      They both grow and turn into antiheroes
      Usually in their own way stopping any greater evil
      "An antihero is kind of like a villain, or a mix of a hero and a villain"
      (Btw the source I'm using www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/antihero )
      Like in the game shadow the hedgehog, or even the latest manga of db super
      They know and accept who they are
      Sure they might use guns or kill
      But the do it to protect what they love
      They don't try to be heroes
      They just don't let people mess with them and will use their strength to destroy and over come anything that challenges them
      They do things for personal goals
      And what best suites their interests at the moment

    • @Cross-wk8xt
      @Cross-wk8xt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ZeothTheHedgehog You should see the endings on Shadow the Hedgehog

    • @brandonbrown6922
      @brandonbrown6922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@MarioSonicBee The question is, how real is that pride?
      You look back at the flashback and Shadow is very unsure of himself and his purpose in this world, and the Shadow we see in SA2 is basically on a grief-fueled revenge rampage, so how he acts during that... well, is that the true Shadow?
      Notice after that point he never really brags about being the 'Ultimate Life Form' anymore, just states it as fact, except when wondering if that title actually should be applied to Sonic instead.

  • @nascarconnor1254
    @nascarconnor1254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Any Shadow design that allows him to smile.

  • @mpdacey
    @mpdacey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I like Tyson Hesse's design of him in the team racing animation. But from the games, I have to choose sprite based battle shadow.

  • @ThePonderer
    @ThePonderer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    My favorite designs for Shadow have to be the CG cutscene design for his own game, along with Sonic Battle.

    • @caspianhorlick4529
      @caspianhorlick4529 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's amazing how a render from 2005 still looks sick to this day

  • @James-lw9ih
    @James-lw9ih 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Shadow the hedgehog with no edge
    He is shadow the hhog

  • @Obi-Wan_Kenobi
    @Obi-Wan_Kenobi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    OH MY GOD
    He's
    JUST
    *TOO*
    *C O O L*
    I exaggerate but no joke, for as much as the internet makes fun of him edge, Shadow is and always will be one of the coolest video game character ever made! He's the -man- hedgehog!

  • @edgelord8337
    @edgelord8337 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    The best shadow design is probably his sonic adventure 2 design and sonic riders design.
    Those just scream shadow the hedgehog.

  • @Merpybum
    @Merpybum 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Even though it isn't part of the games I've always liked the Shadow design in the Sonic X anime. One of the reasons I really like this style is because of how it is like if they took the art in the Sonic Adventure series and put it into an anime.

  • @boyphobe
    @boyphobe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    my favorite part of shadow’s design has always been his hovershoes! i think it’s so funny that he just skates around... it’s very dorky but very _him_

  • @queenviren
    @queenviren 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    My favorite sonic character hands down. He doesn’t have a bad design period 😤

  • @Obi-Wan_Kenobi
    @Obi-Wan_Kenobi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can already tell you got footage of that cutscene where the president looks at Sonic and Shadow's picture on his desk and reminisces about the good times from Game Grump's playthrough. XD

  • @Samst0n
    @Samst0n 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Your cat kneading the bed to butt rock is perfect

  • @NinjaKIngAce
    @NinjaKIngAce 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    12:43 That statement actually works in two ways. Edgy was originally short for cutting-edge. It was often used to describe dark and gritty movies, back when those were the latest tread, to the point where it became synonymous with that aesthetic. The irony is, the more "edgy" Shadow becomes, the less edgy he actually is

    • @ArtistMarkFlynn
      @ArtistMarkFlynn  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not gonna lie, I usually hate my own writing. I loved ending on that sentence lol.

  • @TehMonitorTV
    @TehMonitorTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Imagine Shadow trying to sleep laying on his back.

    • @greatwavefan397
      @greatwavefan397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *literally can't get out of bed*

  • @JustJohn43
    @JustJohn43 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I read somewhere that Blaze the Cat is an evolution of an early Shadow design.
    I bloody love the Riders art style, the Sonic cast really suit that rough sketchbook art style!

  • @randomadventurer2452
    @randomadventurer2452 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Sonic Adventure 2/SA:Battle is my favorite, however I do also love the art style from Sonic Riders( I would love to watch a show with that type of art style).

  • @hallemj02
    @hallemj02 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shadow was my childhood! if you want to, could you cover The MegaMan franchise and its characters designs? Classic and/or X series and so on?

  • @AHylianWarrior
    @AHylianWarrior 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The thing with Shadow is he's never really been edgy other than the fact he's black and red which are popular goth colours. His attitude started off pretty loyal to those he was familiar with and even going out of his way to keep his team safe. He's calm and calculated, finding solutions in problems and vowing to become the planet's protector for eternity as per Maria's wish.
    Theeeeeeennnn the fans came along and kept bugging Sega about giving him a gun until they eventually agreed.The Shadow the Hedgehog game was all the fan's doing despite how much they claim not.

    • @ArtistMarkFlynn
      @ArtistMarkFlynn  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it is apt to call him edgy as of the release of the game with gun tbh.

    • @AHylianWarrior
      @AHylianWarrior 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArtistMarkFlynn Yeah, as I said in the second half of what I said lol The fans demanded he'd get one, so you could blame the fans for that

  • @Naoplays1
    @Naoplays1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    There should have been only one design, but Sega got greedy. This makes my favorite the SA2 design

  • @exleydragon231
    @exleydragon231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was a chaotic intro. I’m for it

  • @topsecret770
    @topsecret770 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I still find it weird the voice of Shadow and Gabumon, has lived like 30 minutes from my house my entire life and I never once met him. Not even at a convention.

  • @ZeddtheVHSotaku
    @ZeddtheVHSotaku 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sees the cat and hears the music at the beginning. Makes me miss my cat called Shadow.

    • @BlastKetchup
      @BlastKetchup 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i had a dog named shadow, Rip my childhood pal

  • @VideoGameAnimationStudy
    @VideoGameAnimationStudy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sadly I was never into Shadow or the games he debuted in.
    I gave up on Sonic after Sonic Adventure 2, though I did pick up and enjoy Sonic Heroes.
    I never really got back into Sonic until Sonic Generations, though I do own but have never played Sonic Colours.
    Great video mate!

    • @ArtistMarkFlynn
      @ArtistMarkFlynn  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I actually fondly played through Shadow the Hedgehog. Found it to be a fun, yet truly truly flawed experience. Cheers for watching mate!

  • @Khranok
    @Khranok 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I loved the artwork of the original Sonic Riders then and still do now

  • @stevespud2707
    @stevespud2707 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shadow's design is arguably his most appealing trait, even more than his character or personality.

  • @himynameiskobey.7994
    @himynameiskobey.7994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "Damn."

  • @azrieldreamer
    @azrieldreamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You really notice every little detail and i love it. Also can't wait for that Tails video since he's my favorite character

  • @P-RiSe
    @P-RiSe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The shade of his skin varies depending on the version. I think Adventure 2's yellow color compliments the rest of the design well. Although that game had a lot of lighting errors, so even if his skin is yellow on the box art, it's harder to see what they were really going for on the character model. (Example-Knuckles and Rouge's skin was shaded way darker than they intended based on other games and the box art)

  • @ghosty2548
    @ghosty2548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    All hail shadow...
    but ı still want my boi metal sonic... eventhough ı think he doesn't have too many different looks :3

    • @deltanoob4945
      @deltanoob4945 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Metal sonic is best boi but they don't use him much which is sad he's my favorite character

    • @shardsoftime0952
      @shardsoftime0952 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My favorite disign is metal sonic 2.5 from the sonic archie comics

  • @loregasmic
    @loregasmic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Shadow the Hedgehog in 2005: Lowest point of the Sonic series, Sega can only do better from this point on.
    Sonic the Hedgehog in 2006:

    • @brandonbrown6922
      @brandonbrown6922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What's sad is that 06 was the last time the games actually understood Shadow and what he's really all about. Where he's got legitimate angst and problems that has the support and trust of friends, rather than the edgehog who laughs at the idea of them.
      But, because the game was a glitchy mess, everything from it must be purged...

  • @Comkill117
    @Comkill117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think we can all agree the final design was the right choice.

  • @mitty9010
    @mitty9010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gotta appreciate a youtuber that says "No point in going over this" and doesn't immediately go over it anyways.

  • @channel019
    @channel019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A thing I really like about the SA2 design that doesn't appears in his later designs is the velvety texture to his black fur. His muzzle colour is also darker in SA2 but in a lot of the appearances that followed it's more in line with Sonic's. I think these changes make him look less like his own character and more like Sonic-but-black-instead-of-blue.

  • @TwisterTH
    @TwisterTH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    First you had a Spyro-Cat and now Shadow-Cat? Dude, that’s so unfair!
    Anyway, excited for a new video. c:

    • @ArtistMarkFlynn
      @ArtistMarkFlynn  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's Logan. He smells so bad.

    • @TwisterTH
      @TwisterTH 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait, is that the reason why he acted so Egdy? Because he refused of talking bath? 👀

  • @mishmash3246
    @mishmash3246 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You need to check the new crash design!

  • @mistral_uk
    @mistral_uk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Yes a Marky Mark treat.

  • @yuliaphyriam2937
    @yuliaphyriam2937 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think I like the design for Sonic Riders the most... I like how his spines were illustrated and the goggles is a nice touch too! Have to love the overall artstyle for Riders too, all in all :D

  • @knuxuki1013
    @knuxuki1013 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fun Fact: When it comes to Shadow's design and how he looks similar to Sonic in canon, Professor Gerald based Shadow off of the mural of Super Sonic in Hidden Palace from Sonic 3 & Knuckles

    • @ArtistMarkFlynn
      @ArtistMarkFlynn  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've heard this before, but what actually confirms this? Sounds like a wild (and cool) theory.

    • @knuxuki1013
      @knuxuki1013 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ArtistMarkFlynn well, we do know that Professor Gerald definitely researched and checked out locations such as Angel Island, it’s how he knew a lot about Emerl, why he made the Chaos Drives and how he based the Artificial Chaos off off the original Chaos 0, he also seemed to have known about the Mural, when the Bio Lizard failed, he went to gain more inspiration from these places, most likely discovering the mural and then used Super Sonic as inspiration for Project Shadow

    • @ArtistMarkFlynn
      @ArtistMarkFlynn  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Does a game actually say he knows of the mural. Or is it just speculation lol.

    • @knuxuki1013
      @knuxuki1013 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ArtistMarkFlynn Sorry for the late reply, didn't know you replied back
      In Sonic Battle if you replay and finish an episode again, you get pages of Gerald's Diary, and in Adventure 2 if you look closely on to some words from a newspaper Rouge was holding and Gerald's Diary when she was reading you can find more detail info.

  • @jamainegardner4193
    @jamainegardner4193 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I prefer his look in the Pre-rendered Shadow cutscenes most of all. Also, yourethe ONLY youtuber I know of that acknowledges those cutscenes.

  • @dluxx3719
    @dluxx3719 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't believe i missed this video. (Also I thanks for mentioning the Sonic Battle artwork mention, i fucking love that game so much)

  • @toalesovikk7168
    @toalesovikk7168 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These aren't really different designs except for the boom one, it's different art styles. Sonic characters designs don't really rely on a one style like other characters for example Timmy Turner which was made with a specific style in mind. It's great because it gives so much variety and I think that's what makes Sonic able to be a great multi media franchise.

  • @Swaggless
    @Swaggless 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So, the muzzle isn't the white tuft on Shadow's chest. The muzzle is the tan area where the mouth and nose are located on the face of prettymuch all Sonic characters (sometimes its white for foxes and cats)
    I've always called the tan thing on Sonic's stomach a "stomach patch". I guess Shadow and Silver technically have "Chest Tufts"? IDK, I don't have a good name for that one. Haha

    • @ArtistMarkFlynn
      @ArtistMarkFlynn  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you. Sonic anatomy is too confusing. Lmao

  • @Night-Lord
    @Night-Lord 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:08
    Are we not acknowledging that this design is yolked out of his goddamn mind?

  • @mellowanimations7237
    @mellowanimations7237 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God I love the Riders art style. We need that back!

  • @2mygreeneyes
    @2mygreeneyes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can’t be the only one who thinks beta Shadow looks like a Digimon

  • @davidsterling7570
    @davidsterling7570 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So glad you dunked on his voice in the current dubs. Kirk Thornton is a veteran VA, but the performance and direction are waaay off.
    Excellent analysis; I loved connecting on looking at the Shadow (game) renders back in the day. I still think they're a decent sendoff for the characters before the HD era.
    Would love to see some of these designs as costumes some day! Shadow 2 baby, the crappy meme tone of modern Sonic would be perfect for that.

  • @cliffturbo2146
    @cliffturbo2146 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a request. Can you do Ratchet design analysis? It's just that Ratchet And Clank has been my childhood game series and his design has change for quite some time in each console generation.

  • @frenchiesottises8193
    @frenchiesottises8193 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I will always be a fan of Yuji's designs of the characters, especially Shadow's. I may be biased, but I believe the SA2 3D rendition of Shadow captures Yuji's design almost perfectly. The only other model I like is the one they use in the cutscenes of his own game. Seriously, I will never understand glossy character models-
    I would like the one in Sonic Boom since he keeps much of his original design, but I don't get the cuffs on his gloves and shoes. I feel like they're too out there. I don't mind the idea of it, I think it's a neat concept, especially for his shoes cause a lot of people tend to call his shoes "rocket boots", but I feel that they went a little overboard with it. Even the rings didn't need to be changed. If they were their normal sizes, I don't think anyone would've noticed. By making them bigger along with giving him cuffed gloves and shoes makes it distracting when he's on screen. My eyes are not going to his face like they should be, my eyes are stuck on his gloves and shoes.

  • @leasebergfladstad167
    @leasebergfladstad167 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Top Favorite Shadow Designs
    1. Movie Shadow
    2. '06 Shadow
    3. Boom Shadow

  • @millythompsonfromtrigun98anime
    @millythompsonfromtrigun98anime 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice job as always ;3
    Sorry I couldn’t comment before but my notifications didn’t alert me of the new video-
    I still stan Dedede

  • @LowellLucasJr.
    @LowellLucasJr. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely love your channel and videos! Shadow has been a great character added to the Sonic mythos, and I seriously love Terios final design for Sonic Adv.2 as there were alot of work that went into it!

    • @LowellLucasJr.
      @LowellLucasJr. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do agree, Racers angular style does look great! Same with his Battle artwork!

  • @Pupppeteer
    @Pupppeteer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was thinking last night where is Mark Flynn!!! Today he comes back to me.

  • @DemonDethchase
    @DemonDethchase 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:48 What is that!?
    I can only wonder happened with the character models for Heroes and Shadow as they looked great in the first two Adventure games and they got super glossy. Though I did see a mod for the PC version of Heroes, which removes the glossy look and they actually look not too bad.
    Also to this day, I cannot watch the Shadow opening and take it seriously what with its first shot against the moon he's jamming the magazine into his gun. The song's good though.
    Looking forward to the Tails video, truly good things come in time :)

  • @DanSutherland
    @DanSutherland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a character created to be a rival after Sonic's rival Knuckles was made to be another sidekick sort of character, Shadow's more just a basic rival trope, yet still manages to be really well designed. While I don't like Knuckles just being replaced by a 'Sonic but a bit of a bad guy,' I'm still glad he exists and wouldn't get rid of him. I like his original 2D artwork most and the Shadow The Hedgehog '05 cutscene 3D model most. The Sonic Battle 2D art looks great too. Not a fan of those Sonic Battle sprites though. Sonic's DS sprites are some of my least favourite of all time.

  • @UnderfellSansTheEdgySkeleton
    @UnderfellSansTheEdgySkeleton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For some strange reason I always liked the 06 designs
    Please don't kill me comment section

    • @whatisthis771
      @whatisthis771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same to me it’s the better looking design out of all of them it’s a shame that design never appeared in other games

    • @chrismanning2888
      @chrismanning2888 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whatisthis771 Honestly this made me wish they sorta used the realistic designs of the characters from 06 again. Those are like the best designs

  • @Jo42O64
    @Jo42O64 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was gone from this channel for a while but now that I saw this I’m happy to be watching your content again

  • @marklake4411
    @marklake4411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That moment when youtube finally recommends in notification

    • @ArtistMarkFlynn
      @ArtistMarkFlynn  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am blessed! Shadow is obviously worth talking about haha

  • @felipeazevedo7435
    @felipeazevedo7435 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sega is fantastic in characters art, Shadow poses are soo style 🌟

  • @decadentgamer3108
    @decadentgamer3108 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy cow, I was not ready for those early conceptual designs they did for Shadow. Like oh man, they looked so jarring and thank goodness they had the sense to go back to the drawing board and give us the design we know and love (or hate lol). Anyway I'm in agreement that I think Shadow's design from SA2 is still his best to date. I love the rough texture of his model and how his quills look when at top speed in motion. The sleek and fluid official art of him for the game also looked very nice as well, very striking.
    What you said about his sprite in Sonic Battle, I agree with you there. I really like Knuckles and he's my main in most sonic games but I just have to give it to Shadow, his sprite was easily the best out of them all and it only makes me sad that we didn't get one more 2D Sprite based Sonic Advance game that used that sprite. I mean can you imagine how cool it would've been to get a Sonic Advance 4 and be able to play as Shadow using that sprite? Total missed opportunity haha.
    I think my least favorite of his designs is the one from Sonic Heroes & Shadow The Hedgehog. I will agree that in the CGI cutscenes of Shadow the hedgehog, he looked really good but his in-game model was just an eyesore not just because of the overly glossy coloring style but I also didn't like how they emphasized how short he is. Like in the game, it feels like his head is engulfing most of his body when in back view and I just never liked that at all and I'm grateful they didn't continue this style into Sonic 06.
    I'm gonna say something that might be seen as controversial but I'm not lying in saying that I actually thought that Shadow's redesign in Sonic Boom looked really nice. I actually liked the messier quills, the taller body, the added wrist/arm guards and taller boots for him. It's just a shame that his personality was way too on the nose and it didn't help that the voice actor just wasn't that great. Like no hate to Kirk Thompson but to my ears, David Humphrey will always be Shadow to me but that aside, at least on a purely shallow looks perspective, I thought that his design actually looked kinda cool.
    Anyway I really enjoyed hearing your thoughts on his designs over the years, character design analysis videos are just so entertaining. Keep up the good work. :)

  • @leasebergfladstad167
    @leasebergfladstad167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My only favorite Shadow design is '06 Shadow.

  • @user-in1gv1uh2v
    @user-in1gv1uh2v 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The concept art looks kinda like darkspine sonic.

  • @violetthebat8810
    @violetthebat8810 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video, dude!!~ :D Can you do a "Best Rouge or Silver" design video? ~ ;3

  • @GS-hz4yv
    @GS-hz4yv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ladies and gentlemen, I bring to you Gonic and Hedgeta.

  • @Nic_2751
    @Nic_2751 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely perfect he’s perfect, the best black animal, oh and Shadow’s design is cool too, this was a great video, any upcoming ideas?

  • @diego-he1tb
    @diego-he1tb 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:26 THINK SONIC, THINK

  • @BrothaKyo
    @BrothaKyo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I may have to tip my hat to the Riders and the original SA2 design. Yuji Uekawa's official 2D render always stuck out to me.

  • @dayvonlouis5187
    @dayvonlouis5187 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like the Sonic Riders artwork of the characters

  • @emari98_97
    @emari98_97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I favor the designs of Shadow The Hedgehog in Sonic Adventure 2, Shadow The Hedgehog game, Sonic Riders, Sonic X and in Sonic & Sega All Stars Racing.

  • @Nic_2751
    @Nic_2751 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cannot wait for his cinematic debut

  • @hyde7100
    @hyde7100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imo the adventure era of Sonic artwork is my favorite depictions of all the characters since they have a unique spark to them, Sonic and Shadow benefiting the most out of it

  • @13bloodwolf21
    @13bloodwolf21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    blaze left more of an impact than silver lol

  • @TopHatGamingManChannel
    @TopHatGamingManChannel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Edgy the Hedgy

  • @tofi4449
    @tofi4449 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    yay finally also the cat looks adorable :D edit: same opinion shadow and knuckles designs are amazing and just perfect espicially shadow in my opinion

  • @DiamondBatToons
    @DiamondBatToons 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hot take: I REALLY like certain design elements from the BOOM Shadow design! Mainly the updated Gauntlets & Boots!

  • @kfishwick3
    @kfishwick3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it would have been good to mention his appearance in the ROM hack Sonic 1 Megamix which was another pixelated sprite-based Shadow design. That's probably my favorite Shadow design.

  • @julzbananz
    @julzbananz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12:46
    Shadow the Hhog

  • @chaoskingangelofdeathgrimr7024
    @chaoskingangelofdeathgrimr7024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I support shadow the hedgehog one of my favorite character in sonic series and I like the design alot

  • @powergoss0562
    @powergoss0562 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shadow is my 2nd favorite character next to Sonic with the 3rd being knuckles

  • @MJGaming57_REAL
    @MJGaming57_REAL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shadow looks unironically cool with a gun

  • @precurrentgaming5300
    @precurrentgaming5300 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thought this character was a cool addition. Personally I feel about the same regarding his design.

  • @MetalMania343
    @MetalMania343 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Riders will always be my favorite design for ALL characters who appeared in it.

  • @nottoofast
    @nottoofast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "His voice actor also got 100% worse."
    Subscribing. I hate that voice.

  • @BitchChill
    @BitchChill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You got thisssss Sonic

  • @Nice_Person7379
    @Nice_Person7379 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you see skinny anthroes in the sonic universe you know they’re strong as hell

  • @Alberto_Tellez
    @Alberto_Tellez 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite Shadow design is the modern day Shadow only looking better in CGI.

  • @alimowla3204
    @alimowla3204 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i'd say shadow only started becoming a vegeta clone in some parts of his game and in chronicles onward probably, since really, he and vegeta aren't really that similar, especially in sa2, wherein he doesn't really seem to have an inferiority or superiority complex, if anything he seemed more surprised and curious about sonic using chaos control rather than bothered over someone else using his technique, not to mention he was humble enough to say sonic might be the real ultimate lifeform since he had better control over his super form.
    that aside, i'd have to go with sa2 shadow for best design, i don't know, maybe it's because the game has my favorite characterization for shadow, but even then, on its own i find something about it more appealing than the other designs, it also helps this game doesn't have the constant and idiotic trope of posing shadow in the same two "he's crossing his arms now" or "he's showing his back now" poses, seriously, what's with games after sa2 constantly putting shadow in these two particular poses? they're about the most unimaginative poses you could put a character in!
    as always, great video mark and i'm looking forward to the next one.

    • @ArtistMarkFlynn
      @ArtistMarkFlynn  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for watching. I don't think they are exactly the same at all, but obviously the spines and colour scheme definitely feels like it was inspired by vegetas hair. Can't help but feel the dbz influence what with them both being super at the end of SA2 though. Shadow basically does vegetas buu saga arc across one whole game lol.
      Silver however...His whole god damn plot is trunks lol.

    • @alimowla3204
      @alimowla3204 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ArtistMarkFlynn
      when it comes to the quills, sure i agree, though personally i don't agree with the buu saga point since shadow never seemed to really dislike sonic during sa2 and only called him a faker after sonic did the same, he was more of a nuisance or annoyance to him, at least that's what i got from it, compared with vegeta who really hated goku for surpassing him and only starting respecting him as a warrior in the buu saga.
      "Silver however...His whole god damn plot is trunks lol."
      oh yea, that ones just.....really blatant.

  • @TheRealDustinNunn
    @TheRealDustinNunn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shadow needs the Classic Shadow treatment.

  • @ernestorio3550
    @ernestorio3550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is your cat a product of the space colony ark too? Cuzz both have the similar color app and mannerism (the don't dare disturb me type)

  • @katherineperrin4817
    @katherineperrin4817 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shadow the Hedgehog on PS2 was the first Sonic game I ever played. God it's such a nostalgic guilty pleasure. It also has an amazing soundtrack (seriously Digital Circuit is boss tier)