Two things I learned from this video: 1: Shovels are OP 2: After all these years that damn last blob of the healthbar still infuriates me! Why does it last for so long? Grrrr!
There could be a comparison between how easily first blob of the bar (tank destroyer on infantry, or sniper on slave miner) is taken and how difficult is to take the last.
@@furtivetef805 First one is easy. Isn't one point of damage enough to get that first one off? Since not 100% anymore? Might not remember correctly though.
NOTE: I don't know if this applies to Red Alert 2, but in general this is how it goes. It's part of the illusion that exists in games: most of the health bar correlates 1-to-1 to the damage received. The last portions of the health bar have a ratio of
Honestly I think it's mostly because the SEAL that got hit crawled towards an angry mob of shovel-bearers. If it had stayed put the SEALs would've had a much better chance.
@DefiantBoris Perhaps - but in both attempts the situation looked like it was on the border of "sustainable" for the SEALs, so it would've at least made it extremely close even if they ultimately failed regardless! Especially in the second clip as that was closer than the first.
Navy seals lost even though they had the high ground Obi wan: Impossible perhaps the archives are incomplete Anakin: is it possible to learn this power Yuri: not from an allied
"Testing Slaves" Quite an interesting title you have there Anyways long time no see my man, last time I was here you have like 2K subs, how quickly the number grows
Well good luck! I really like to see more RA content in the future. Even tho this game is an old game, I'm still playing it until now, the sensation from this game never gets old man
3:01 veteran & elite slave has the same power and it's the same case for the brutals, can I take a wild guess that brutals are originally from some mutation experiments on slaves? 🤔
Well slaves are similar to soldiers in case of physical strength, assuming they eat the same ration, and weapon expertise is out of the way. That said, I wonder if Tanya and Virus could also be turned into a Brute by using Genetic Mutator...
So for anyone who's shocked that slaves managed to beat 2 navy seals... Well, let's just say their victory was marginal. 1.Due to how seals' default evasive starts with going downwards, that one seal dies off far too early. 2.The slope for slaves to head upwards is just barely enough for them to swarm the seals. A battle is never fought on numbers alone, even in a RTS game.
I mean... They mine huge chunks of gold nuggets all day... Pretty sure they're pretty buff beyond reasons enough to compete against a genetically modified hulks
7:03 Yuri Clone chased by freed slave: Stay away from me! I won't sacrifice myself for a slave Boris: Oh man he got him. Poor Ivan. (All 3 heroes explode)
wanted to see this for a long time, but was never brave enough to ask for it :D i realy thought the battle fortress is going to be a meme again though, i was rly surprised :O
5:13 That's the first time I have seen someone put slaves in a battle fortress! I had no idea they could still "hit" with melee attacks while inside! That's so funny!
An aspect of Slaves that actually goes unnoticed often because few people use them seriously: Slaves are 100% immune to mind control. This means, Masterminds cannot harm them (unless they crush them) and Psychic Towers cannot do anything to them. Yuri Clones and Prime can still kill them with the Psychic Wave; but Slaves are actually DECENT against Yuri's Mind Control units because they can surround them and beat them senseless. And a Veteran Slave is... horrifyingly powerful, likely to match how difficult it is to actually get them to that level.
In 100 frames... Slave does 100 damage @ 50% = 50 damage, instantly. Tank does 108 damage @ 25% = 27 damage, not instantly. So slave wins as HP to damage received ratio is better. [SHOVEL] ;Slave weapon. Damage=30 ROF=30 Range=1.5 Speed=100 Projectile=InvisibleLow ... Verses=100%,80%,80%,50%,25%,25%,75%,50%,25%,100%,100% [105mm] ;Tank weapon. Damage=65 ROF=60 Range=5 Speed=40 Projectile=Cannon ... Verses=25%,25%,15%,75%,100%,100%,65%,45%,60%,60%,100%
As far as Slave promotion is concerned, whenever they destroy a building, tank, or tough infantry, they automatically get an Elite promotion. No Veteran promotion observed... perhaps, unless if it comes from crates.
"Slaves are cheap! Hahaha!" Promotions are based on value of the killing unit versus the target and slave are, indeed, cheap enough that any kill makes them eligible for Elite.
But the ultimate question is: Which unit is the #1 useless unit in all of C&C? A. Technician from C&C, RA1, and Tib Sun B. Limpet Drone from Tib Sun C. Slave from YR
That's a tough question, limpet drones are the only unit that costs anything, but the fasted and can cross water. It also has a very niche spy role. So despite the other two being free, I think it's the least useless. It has to the technician - especially in TibSun where they run out of ammo for their already useless weapon. A
Limpet drone....my god, they have limited scouting potential for that one level they are introduced (the effectively cannot be seen once attached, and will not be fixed by the enemy).
@@squishymusic9723 Technicians run out of ammo? Is that when they start running around scared? techs were great in RA1 on that "the hills have eyes" map.
tg units that are very good at killing infantry: elite tanks, elite infantry, seal, Tanya, Gatling tanks, desolators, elite ifv, Terror drones, etc. I think it will be fun to see who is the fastest to kill a group of infantry. Thanks man, your videos are great!
@@tg.Sacred Think of it as a gaming orientated skype like our friend said above. But it has other uses. You can create your own chatroom/server/group where you can gather your community and/or friends, organize polls, roles, bonuses, sneak peaks of your work and many more. Mostly keep your friends and/or fans organized.
I nether realised that slaves were useful in combat in any way at all. Never reach melee range for me. Damn watching them beat brutes at their job!! hahhaah
I once accidentally had my slave miner destroyed by environment on top of the hill, making the slaves...NEUTRAL It took me surprising amount of effort to retake the hill, these guys were absolutely CRAZY.
Aww man you do polls? Why didnt they show up on my feed :( youtube bad. tg good. Good stuff as always :) I was expecting that there would be more things to explore on them but meh, if that's all there is it's fine.
Nice work with the slaves... Would you mind testing RA2 units against TS units via the C&C reloaded mod. I've heard the 1.4 version would be out soon. Maybe by the next 2 to 3 weeks.
Did I just witness some guys hitting a tank with their shovels from inside another tank? Damn this game still amuses me.
Its a old rush strategy. You went after miners with tanks and once its dead, you took the slaves and went demolishing buildings with them.
@@Bullminator but never with a battle fortress though
Mintha téged már láttalak volna valahol :D
@@Hungeryan Engem? Lehet
Well, they're really long-handled shovels.
Give brutes a shovel and you'll have the ultimate infantry.
Shovel > Machine guns
Shovel > 40mm tank shells
Shovel > Anti Tank rockets
Shovel > Genetically modified Hulks
Don't underestimate the shovel
What are the materials used in those shovels to pull that off etc
@@TheManofthecross cold hard metal
I guess the slave secretly had buffed body
@@irugelgumiho5195 When you're digging ore so much you too will become strong like he is.
i feel like they're gonna say
can i have some shoes ?
don't bring a shovel into a gun fight i guess
*laughs in death krieg*
My hands have splinters.
*destroys tank*
that was hard work
What is in there??
Does it have to be so far?
2:42 This guy dismantled an entire military tank, with a shovel.
mongol!
Shovel>nuke
Okay, I did not expect that Shovel Fortress, that's hilarious, the ultimate ground melee unit!
SWINGING AWAY!!
Two things I learned from this video:
1: Shovels are OP
2: After all these years that damn last blob of the healthbar still infuriates me! Why does it last for so long? Grrrr!
Maybe the last blob either has double blob value, or has indomitable 1 HP buff.
@@OverseerMoti it is a trick for gaming psychology. They do this for creating the illusion of ' uff I was able to save that unit at the nick of time'
There could be a comparison between how easily first blob of the bar (tank destroyer on infantry, or sniper on slave miner) is taken and how difficult is to take the last.
@@furtivetef805 First one is easy. Isn't one point of damage enough to get that first one off?
Since not 100% anymore? Might not remember correctly though.
NOTE: I don't know if this applies to Red Alert 2, but in general this is how it goes.
It's part of the illusion that exists in games: most of the health bar correlates 1-to-1 to the damage received. The last portions of the health bar have a ratio of
I’m shocked beyond anything that they took out the seals.
Honestly I think it's mostly because the SEAL that got hit crawled towards an angry mob of shovel-bearers. If it had stayed put the SEALs would've had a much better chance.
Most players would just move them in back. Slaves are to slow moving.
Just because they didnt get rank upgrade ;)
@DefiantBoris Perhaps - but in both attempts the situation looked like it was on the border of "sustainable" for the SEALs, so it would've at least made it extremely close even if they ultimately failed regardless! Especially in the second clip as that was closer than the first.
The slaves win because the seals don't get promoted for killing them, since slaves are free
Did I just watch that guy destroy a tank with a shovel?
Imagine battle fortress with 5 shovel coming out of it’s side window beating a whole building into a pile of rubbles
Imagine seeing a battle fortress coming towards you with shovels sticking out the sides like oars on a trireme.
Navy seals lost even though they had the high ground
Obi wan: Impossible perhaps the archives are incomplete
Anakin: is it possible to learn this power
Yuri: not from an allied
Slaves on battle fortress' looks like a medieval type of military arsenal 😂
Its a european classics
Drive me closer! I want to hit them with my shovel!
chariots were used in classical times
"Testing Slaves"
Quite an interesting title you have there
Anyways long time no see my man, last time I was here you have like 2K subs, how quickly the number grows
Hey,
Yes, Red Alert helped a lot for that.
Well good luck! I really like to see more RA content in the future. Even tho this game is an old game, I'm still playing it until now, the sensation from this game never gets old man
@@LBL_Edzer Thank you! I still have a few ideas left!
"this isn't fair!" -typical Slave
Never realised slaves could hit outside fortresses. Interesting.
I remember how I watched your videos about the suffering a few years back and now you pop out in my recommendations. Good luck on your vids bro :p
Ah... Thanks mate!
Who can take down a factory faster?
A hulking bio mutant designed for maximum carnage.
One shovel boi.
And the winner is...
ONE WHOLE SHOVEL BOI
A malnourished slave is way better at thrashing tanks than an expensive very well trained seal
3:01 veteran & elite slave has the same power and it's the same case for the brutals, can I take a wild guess that brutals are originally from some mutation experiments on slaves? 🤔
Good theory! xD
Well slaves are similar to soldiers in case of physical strength, assuming they eat the same ration, and weapon expertise is out of the way.
That said, I wonder if Tanya and Virus could also be turned into a Brute by using Genetic Mutator...
@@OverseerMoti they are or at least that's what I remember. I use gen mutator to shutdown tnya and boring.
They are Brutes
I noticed that they wear visors as if they cannot even see at their own will
Looks like shovel is more OP than AK47
-AK47 for everyone- Shovels for everyone!!
I've noticed recently there's a channel that's doing tests of Red Alert 3 units. For a minute I thought it was yours
Same, I was like, hey wait that's not TG that's Illegal.
I found out today and to be honest it gave me a strange feeling since he completely copied my template. :(
@@tg.Sacred Think of it as an homage ;) You stuffs are too awesome!
@@tg.Sacred his comparisons are nothing compared to yours. Nice job dude!
@@tg.Sacred Hippity hoppity
Your style is now my property
Why do I feel like the seal vs slaves is like a scene from a movie about an uprise against the occupation?
i hope you gave them some shoes after all this
and food
Shovel Battle Fortress... nice.
New meta
It should be able to go subterrain like those Tiberian Sun units.
Do they need still to shovel?
Yes, yes they do
So for anyone who's shocked that slaves managed to beat 2 navy seals... Well, let's just say their victory was marginal.
1.Due to how seals' default evasive starts with going downwards, that one seal dies off far too early.
2.The slope for slaves to head upwards is just barely enough for them to swarm the seals.
A battle is never fought on numbers alone, even in a RTS game.
5:00 Shirtless shovel man defeats professionally trained allied squad.
Maybe Yuri enslaved all of Florida?
Just for thr record, he is an elite slave.
"Are you not entertained???"
The victory scream killed me
Shame to those Brutes and their muscle. They still lose to skinny Slave and their Shovel in demolishing the building.
I mean... They mine huge chunks of gold nuggets all day... Pretty sure they're pretty buff beyond reasons enough to compete against a genetically modified hulks
Slave: Do I still need a shovel?
Me: Yes. YES. DON'T PUT IT AWAY YOU-
Slave deal more dmg than a brute and grizzly against those war factories 👀
I never thought about testing slaves.
You sir, are extraordinary creative!
7:03
Yuri Clone chased by freed slave: Stay away from me! I won't sacrifice myself for a slave
Boris: Oh man he got him. Poor Ivan. (All 3 heroes explode)
Grinding it gives 5, means they're worth 10 each, any unit they kill promotes them to elite
What next? You will test Civilian Cars?
Their shovels can destroy armored vehicles?
*Death Korps of Krieg wants to know your location*
Destroying a tank with a shovel. Seems legit
wanted to see this for a long time, but was never brave enough to ask for it :D
i realy thought the battle fortress is going to be a meme again though, i was rly surprised :O
5:13 That's the first time I have seen someone put slaves in a battle fortress! I had no idea they could still "hit" with melee attacks while inside! That's so funny!
Hmmm... I think the result of SEALs vs Slaves could have been a little different if that one SEAL just didn't run away... into enemy swarm.
Those seals had some crazy self heal though which I only noticed in the end.
SELF-HEALING???
Ah, I notice it now too. But... SEALs aren't supposed to have self-healing in basic stats...
@@LNgKhoi Yes, those were pre-added from the map and it seems they were scripted to have self-heal.
Slave: "how can i help?"
*BATTLE FORTRESS ATTACKS FAILING SOVIETS*
And this is how revolution occured
Imagine spanking a tank to death with a shovel. lol
"Got my shovel right here!"
An aspect of Slaves that actually goes unnoticed often because few people use them seriously: Slaves are 100% immune to mind control. This means, Masterminds cannot harm them (unless they crush them) and Psychic Towers cannot do anything to them. Yuri Clones and Prime can still kill them with the Psychic Wave; but Slaves are actually DECENT against Yuri's Mind Control units because they can surround them and beat them senseless. And a Veteran Slave is... horrifyingly powerful, likely to match how difficult it is to actually get them to that level.
I cannot believe a half naked man with a shovel could destroy an actual factory or a tank
"We work for food"
"Liberty is sweat!"
Maybe, they killed seals for their liberty and food?
In 100 frames...
Slave does 100 damage @ 50% = 50 damage, instantly.
Tank does 108 damage @ 25% = 27 damage, not instantly.
So slave wins as HP to damage received ratio is better.
[SHOVEL] ;Slave weapon.
Damage=30
ROF=30
Range=1.5
Speed=100
Projectile=InvisibleLow
...
Verses=100%,80%,80%,50%,25%,25%,75%,50%,25%,100%,100%
[105mm] ;Tank weapon.
Damage=65
ROF=60
Range=5
Speed=40
Projectile=Cannon
...
Verses=25%,25%,15%,75%,100%,100%,65%,45%,60%,60%,100%
Slaves: We are free! We are free!!!
Me: Of course you are free, you cost 0 $ XD.
@Alexander Rodriguez In game when Yuri's miner get destroyed, slaves will scream: We are free! We are free!
A pun on "free"dom.
I'm tempted to whooosh, but better not.
@@OverseerMoti XD
In the video, they are recycled for 5 bucks.
@@kirra9152 grind infantries grant half of their cost.So slave is 10 $
that must be some shovel!
Who would win?
*A grizzly main battle tank* or one *shovel boi*
5:16 well if you ever wanted to turn RA2 into AoE2 this your way to do so
Slaves in battles fortress = acts as battering ram
As far as Slave promotion is concerned, whenever they destroy a building, tank, or tough infantry, they automatically get an Elite promotion. No Veteran promotion observed... perhaps, unless if it comes from crates.
Yup, veteran was from crate.
"Slaves are cheap! Hahaha!"
Promotions are based on value of the killing unit versus the target and slave are, indeed, cheap enough that any kill makes them eligible for Elite.
@@racer927 even when slave kill conscripts??
So you can swin shovel inside the fortress
But can they build a Scud Storm?
Our home are in terror!
Ak47....for everyone.
They need a hammer for that
I'm hungry
You need USA & China for that
Well, they usually come in a groups of 5 too
Initiate: look no hands
Slave: look no guns
But the ultimate question is: Which unit is the #1 useless unit in all of C&C?
A. Technician from C&C, RA1, and Tib Sun
B. Limpet Drone from Tib Sun
C. Slave from YR
That's a tough question, limpet drones are the only unit that costs anything, but the fasted and can cross water. It also has a very niche spy role. So despite the other two being free, I think it's the least useless. It has to the technician - especially in TibSun where they run out of ammo for their already useless weapon.
A
Limpet drone....my god, they have limited scouting potential for that one level they are introduced (the effectively cannot be seen once attached, and will not be fixed by the enemy).
@@squishymusic9723 Technicians run out of ammo? Is that when they start running around scared?
techs were great in RA1 on that "the hills have eyes" map.
this video proves slaves are not useless
If you fight yuri, freed slave pose the danger of brute conversion. The best thing is to build bio reactor before placing slave within.
Slave + IFV?
Thank you for your work!
Dear labour.
"I got a shovel! I got a shovel!"
A slave with a shovel can kill a grizzly tank faster than a GI's default handgun...
5:34 "Armageddon annihilating the instrument of doom""
6:08 and 6:30 Leonidas and the 300 anyone ?? :P
If he had dropped the SEALs off by helicopter it would have been straight out of Blackhawk Down.
3:10 How are Slaves doing more damage than Brutes!? D:
After watching this video, I fell like playing back this game and do a single player. But this time, annihilate the entire base with slaves.
Testing slaves if they can survive in isolation with the sigma harmonizer
I had fun with them back in the day, but boy I totally underestimated their power.
was kinda hoping a heroic slave to have some kinda alternative weapon like most other units. like a pickaxe or hammer. but now i see they are OP as is
They have longer reach with max promotion it seems. Thus they GOT A BIGGER SHOVEL!
Please do Premier Romanov vs The president viedo.
What could I possibly do about it?
@@tg.Sacred have them both in to an IFV or battle fortress and duke it out.
Slaves with crates?
that music sync at 1:27 tho
Literal hulk vs hard working man with shovel
slave hits harder than brute lol
So slave give you 5 on the grinder, that imply that slave cost 10. Dang.... if A mod make this available for barack, bio-reactor would be so effective
6:54 "FIGHTERS, ARM UP!"
"We got the rockets!"
"Fighters, arm up!"
"We got the rockets!"
"Fighters, arm up!"
Pretty much what happens if I decide to go full guerilla in C&C3
but still quite interesting when a single shovel can destroy an entire building
Please test the civilian units.
Hi by the way you could try comparing the anti personal units in the next video, thanks for the upload!
Hey,
What do you mean by anti personal?
tg units that are very good at killing infantry: elite tanks, elite infantry, seal, Tanya, Gatling tanks, desolators, elite ifv, Terror drones, etc. I think it will be fun to see who is the fastest to kill a group of infantry. Thanks man, your videos are great!
Those shovels are made out of Vibranium.
To break a tank that shovels must be made of diamond. I know this is only a game, but that slaves are bare chested /without armor tho.
Everyday I'm shoveling~
♩ ♫
What happens when you put a slave into an IFV tho?
Nothing!
tg
Should've turned it into a giant shovel.
@@NebulousOdious Warning: Giant Shovel has been detected.
Same thing like battlefortress slave. I guess.
Tractor?
i noticed they are worth 5 credits each but ive never seen my units get promos from them
A conscript needs to kill 30 of them to be promoted. So obviously, it's a quite rare condition.
Ahh... I forgot one thing tg
What's the music name at 7:10
Slaves vs Brutes test like 100 vs 50 and maybe against t-rex or crocodile
does putting a slave in an IFV do anything?
Nope!
Don't underestimate the slaves! They have pretty good dps. Fear those shovels!
Wait what?? Are these shovels made of magic? 5:29
No wonder slaves are very strong than brutes xD
They must be using diamond shovel or netherite shovel
They had the high ground xDDD
Also you really need a discord community mate.
truth, lets get a red alert 2community going, this game has life yet
I've never bothered with discord, what exactly is it useful for?
@@tg.Sacred it's skype but better in every way and designed for groups of gamers
@@tg.Sacred Think of it as a gaming orientated skype like our friend said above. But it has other uses. You can create your own chatroom/server/group where you can gather your community and/or friends, organize polls, roles, bonuses, sneak peaks of your work and many more. Mostly keep your friends and/or fans organized.
Well thats a title right there
Destroying tank with a shovel?
I nether realised that slaves were useful in combat in any way at all. Never reach melee range for me.
Damn watching them beat brutes at their job!! hahhaah
I once accidentally had my slave miner destroyed by environment on top of the hill, making the slaves...NEUTRAL It took me surprising amount of effort to retake the hill, these guys were absolutely CRAZY.
@@Levyafan Start up the *whizzers!*
Have you ever thought of doing unit, structure and superweapon tests in Tiberian Sun: Firestorm?
Aww man you do polls? Why didnt they show up on my feed :( youtube bad. tg good.
Good stuff as always :) I was expecting that there would be more things to explore on them but meh, if that's all there is it's fine.
Yeah, sometimes!
Unfortunately, I think I did all the tests I could think of.
They are worth 10 credits, no wonder why they turn elites so easily.
(No, it is not 5 because the grinder takes half).
Nice work with the slaves... Would you mind testing RA2 units against TS units via the C&C reloaded mod. I've heard the 1.4 version would be out soon. Maybe by the next 2 to 3 weeks.
Once I finish with Ra2 Content I will check some mods.
Thanks for testing my slaves