New Polo GTI vs 1992 Opel Superboss Drag Race! New School vs Old School
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When the latest Polo GTI arrived for testing at our offices, where our very own Opel Superboss lives, we did some quick maths and realised that on the quarter mile the cars could be quite evenly matched.
Even though the 30 year old, 2.0-litre Superboss is seriously outgunned here by the turbocharged Polo, the Kadett has a huge power-to-weight ratio advantage, weighing a good 400kg lighter than the Polo. New cars have become very heavy indeed.
And so we hired the Killarney race circuit outside Cape Town and set up a new school vs old school showdown. Enjoy!
0:00 Intro
0:44 Engine, Power and Torque
2:22 Opel Superboss interior
3:40 Polo sound check
3:52 First Drag race
6:08 Second Drag race
6:57 Closing
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The super boss is 30 years older and it’s a naturally aspirated car. To run as close as it did to a 2.0 turbo with a dsg is legendary. Super boss for the win 🏆
Kadett motor is not C20LET? With turbo?
@@endlosz The Kadett (Super Boss) in south Africa had the C20XE motor in it which was Naturally aspirated.
Modern gearbox makes a big difference
Actually it's not as simple as that. Add another 400 kg to that superboss then what do you think will happen
@@yaqeenalexander4052 So, add that xtra weight to the Boss, but also a turbo to be fair, that VW will be eaten Alive
Everyone arguing which car is faster, meanwhile the little drone surprised me the most!
😂😂😂
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I was like wait a minute how fast are these drones
@@davidm.226... Some drones can do 140+kms.
Haha good point. We used a really awesome fully carbon fibre FPV racing drone for this shoot. I think it can hit 160km/h flat out. Quite a thing to see. Maybe we should race a drone vs a car?
Now imagine a Superboss in its time... monster!!!
Crazy 🤯
It was a GTE 16v in my day, they handled crap when pushed but straight line go was well beyond all the other hot hatchs around in the late 80s and 90s. The RS turbo, 16v mk2 golf and 205 1.9 were the quickest and they all could crack 100mph in 22sec but the GTE 16v could do that in 19sec but the golf, RS and 205 handled way way better than the vauxhall.
@@EugVR6 the Superboss is a "warmer" version of the GTE though...
@@ClariHero How much warmer was the Boss and in what way?
The Astra GTE 16v was rated at 155hp officially but it was more like 165hp after 30k miles.
The Astra GTE 16v was originally going to be the Astra 16v Cosworth but with all the Sierra Cosworths being stolen and insurance premiums for Cosworths going through the roof, Vauxhall decided just on the 16v badge and it worked for a while.
@@EugVR6 the Superboss had 125kW which translates to roughly 167hp. On top of that it was fitted with I limited slip diff, Sodium-filled valves helped top-end cooling and it had a head designed by Cosworth, with fuel injection by Bosch Motronic. To cope with the increased power, forged pistons, increased compression ratio and more radical valve timing overlap were employed.
hats off to the Boss! Had the Gti been a manual the result would probably have been much closer.
Xbox uuh8
The boss driver lifted on the gas twice. This is bullshit. I drive a Volkswagen but I hate rigged posts
almost the same the superboss is way less about 400kg
It took them 30 years to finally beat the Opel Superboss.😂😂😂
Opel Power!!!!!
😂🤣😂🤣 True!!!
That is a fact
💯
I love VW never liked Opel till I baught a Corsa Ute 2009. Totally changed my opinion about Opel. Love Opel.
Was lucky enough back in the day to own a boss (with the digital cluster), superboss and a ts. The superboss was in a class of it's own, from the strength of the motor to the sound to the first time experiencing a LSD, i truly loved that car. The competitors were the VR6 (which made a beautiful noise but I recall being sluggish) and the iconic 325is. Simple cars in good times! I eventually got a uno turbo and modified it (Mr turbo management systems, xcell dumpvalves, t66
turbos and purple starsound amps were all the rage then :) ) . I don't think I've ever enjoyed the driving experience as much as then. Great memories and a good youth! Loved this video bringing some of that back .
We're so glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for your comment. Check out the SentiMetal playlist on our channel, lots of good stuff there, VR6, 200ts, 325is etc
Great stories, thank you. I'm super jealous that you owned a Superboss back in the day! Although I suppose I was 5 years old when they hit the market so owning one then would have been a stretch 😂
" from the strength of the motor to the sound to the first time experiencing a LSD" LSD like psychodelic drug? I don't get that :S What is relation between LSD and sound/strenght of motor? :S.
Why are you talking in past tense? Don't you own it anymore?
You wrapped it around a traffic light or something?
Purple starsound amps and uno turbos haha you so spot on
Ashley's driving skills are on another level! That launch!!
Have to be honest the Opel SuperBoss surprised me a lot.
Impressive for a 30 year old car and i can only imagine hoe epic it was in its time.
We need more of such videos.
its insane that there is a 30 year old age difference between them and that superboss is perfoming like that ,I now understand why it is such a legendary car 🔥🔥🔥
I drove Opel cars since 1987, first Opel cub, then 1.8i and 2.0i and the Super Boss, it only did 121kw and 232nm on Steves Auto Clinic dyno but believe me they were untouchable. The 1.8i Monza lost one or two drags at most, the 2.0 Monza two at most the Super Boss never lost a drag race or top end run. At the same time of the Super Boss my brother drove a 928 s4 Porsche and that struggle to keep up with the Opel, so in the wright hands I believe they still crazy fast,
The Superboss was the ultimate monster back in the 90s....
That vibration in the super boss.....love it
Bring the 200TS
I want to see that superboss on a drag race a Runx RSI, GOLF VR6, bmw 325i and a sentra 200sti
Slow cars, those other 4. Easy kills.
@@291cma9 even so, it would be nice to see
And the 200ts
What were the quartermile times?!?!
Did you say the car that smacked the 325is on the circuit must compete with a 325i 😂😂😂😂😂
I've had the privilege of owning a Superboss & driving the Polo GTi for a year, loved the Polo was fun, but the SuperBoss was my favourite. Taught my wife to drive on a SuperBoss & well its why today she drives everything else like it.
We have a 16v GSI, and my wife wanted a new car years ago, so I didn't go against her, all I said was just make some appointments to test drive some cars and so we did, only for her to find out nothing drives quite the same. I'm not saying it is the best car ever, in fact as we all know it has many flaws, but the most important things to have in a car it has right and at an affordable price tag. After all those years the GSI started to form rust issues and it became a more pressing issue all together, but my wife was by now most vocal about saving the car and over the years I did gather a lot of parts, including original panels to give it it's much needed new lease of life. The car is now almost ready and I've already made some small test drives in it, and it put a right big smile on my face. Can't wait to proper put it back on the road!
Love how the camera is shaking in the Superboss 😁
It's those 276 shrick cams that makes it a bit jumpy.
loved it , was hoping for the superboss to pullout a shocker on the the Polo but hey super performance from a 30 year old car.
Hats off for the Superboss holding it's own 🔥.
Ashley Oakfield is a superb driver. Hats off to him 👏🏽👏🏽
Super boss power !!!!✌️30years later and it still lives up to its name. Judging from this race could clearly see that DSG was the advantage of the polo but the boss had the legs to keep up
Epic showdown! Just reminds me of how much I love old school cars. You are so much more connected to the car. Modern cars today are awesome for getting you to work and back deailing with traffic etc.. But when you you really want to have fun driving nothing compares to old school manual everything.. I currently drive an S60 T6 but my best driving memory is still me and my buddy messing around robot to robot racing with a 1.3 Fox and a 1.4 citi! No one went anywhere fast but that didn't matter, it was just for the joy of driving.
Damn! Was NOT expecting that! Best drag of the year so far...
My first car was the 1990 Opel Kadett Cub 1.3 , a brilliant little car. The Superboss was the ultimate halo car of its time.
That was brilliant, love these old vs. new . Give ones some perspective if nothing else. Makes me nostalgic for Best Motoring.
Ash can drive a FWD stick like a boss. Really good skill.
I began my day working on a Big 5 reserve and watched this on my boss's computer inside an aircon office on a Friday morning. This video made me smile because I drive a 1995 Opel Monza 1300 CLS which I bought in 1998. What a way to start the weekend :)
Fantastic video guys...The most interesting video, Ive see lately...Keep em coming with old vs new..!
Very entertaining comments from both drivers 😂 top class mates 👌🏽
Hey what you guys forget is that the polo needs a turbo to keep up with that 30 year old superboss! Not fair, compare a 2.0l naturally aspirated new polo to the superboss then its a much more fair race!
Love the Opel Superboss, what a Legend 💕💪👍
Good to have you back Ciro glad you feeling better😎🤓
Super boss all day every day, sounds awesome
This is such an awesome drag race.
Well this will shut a few people up
Pretty sure the SB aint bone stock tho
Sorry about that, it is stock, I was just making a joke
@@CiroDeSiena well then the initial comment shut me up, SB is impressive 30 years on
lucky they never bring a 200 TS
Comparing the best hot hatch of the 90s to the weakest hot hatch available today and you reckon this will shut people up?? Lol... If they put a Golf R up there how many excuses would you have seen after all the gaps???
Wow! Never thought I'd see something like that today. Amazing content ya'll. Epic😁👍🏼Keep up the good work. God bless 🙏🏼
That Superboss did flippen well!! Proper legend that thing!
The Boss is in pristine condition. What a classic👌🏻
That Opel...Damn!!
Love the FPV drone you guys added to the videos its awesome and the superboss is still just that…
Superboss..what a car..great drag race and keep them coming!
That opel is fast, really impressive for a 30 year old drive train doing its thing there.... What a WOW!!!!!! 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳.. wait that's a GTI polo? Ehhhh I need to start a conversation with Opel engineers , this is fantastic 👏. Yerrrrrr!!!!!!
Great race, awesome drone footage!
A Great Drag Race this was!🔥
Wow, loved this video. I love the SuperBoss, what a car.
Thats impressive from the Opel. Shows how good some cars were decades ago. Mechanical and not filled with computers and sensors. Good honest cars. I had a Mk2 Golf Gti 8v in 1995, it was quite quick at the time although it was non turbo and only had about 115bhp. Cars are too sterilised these days so the same power does not feel as quick as it used to.
I remember the Kadett GSi 16v (Vauxhall Astra GTE 16v in the UK) being extremely quick off the line at the time of launch and lusting after one more than competitors like the Golf GTi 16v and Escort RS Turbo. I’m surprised the Polo was unable to pull away given it’s supposed to be around a second quicker to 62mph/100kmh. I can see why it was a favourite with car thieves here in the UK.
The UK GTE was a lower spec. It had fog lights instead of cooling ducts for the brakes. SA cars had uprated power from Shrick cams. Lower weight from the sound deadening removal etc. The SA cars handled better too but most of all those Aluette (SIC) wheels!
Great drone work guys, whoever the pilot was, really cool!
Your channel is amazing... The camera shots are something else.
That Opel sounds so good. No question to which car I would choose.
Also, how quick is that drone there at 05:20. Who's the drone operator? Damn!
Turbo against turbo guys, maby try it against a 200TS? would be interesting how the polo does against the coupe turbo as well.
This was truly a fantastic comparison, however what I'd really want to see is a shootout between the Opel Superboss (125 kw) and the Ford Fiesta St (132 kw), not only a drag race, but also a lap time battle, now that will be something!
Use the Revvs!! It cuts at 7500 rpm, use it! Good race, but I think the Supie was nursed. ❤
impressive driving from Ash!
Superboss is a little smokey there. Might need some attention soon 😊
Great race though! Unbelievably close!
That's an Opel...water pump too🤣
Oil has got a blue haze ,
That's definitely more grey ... I'd say it's got a fueling problem, hence the chech engine light ..
P.s : the only thing Opel smoke ... is Vw's 😈
Could you please put pop up the stats of each car before race as well as quarter mile time and exit speed. Mad respect for Ash making sure not to loose much time shifting. Great race.
Please also lower the background dramatic music during the drag race would be great to hear the cars engine revving up
Yeah, I also would’ve loved to see the times
No no no. Ciro. There's some of us that ❤ manual gearboxes. Not only for their reliability and longevity, but the control. That's why I love them. I, and I alone will decide when the car is in what gear ☺ Nice video 👍
🤣®️👊 this reply sounds like myself when I'm driving I have never owned a automatic love engine braking and fuel efficient runs I challenge myself
@@dorianmentor3921 Yep. And on cooler days you can use the ac button to help you slow down when engine braking. Works well, I hardly ever replace brakes. ☺👍
I’m an 80s kid from Johannesburg we remember the super boss very well! Had a big reputation
Going back old-school if the superboss natural aspirated can still out perform the gti technically worse 30yrs difference ! Hats off...
I had the privilege of owning 2, a 1990 and a 1991.
Absolutely legend cars.
Super fast in the 90's
I wonder if he had a better change into 3rd gear how close it would've been
Hats off to the owner of that opel. Secondly, we’ve just learnt how VW is stealing people’s money. Ito dimensions, this Opel is a close rival to today’s pollo than a golf and yet, it performs like a modern car. 😭😭 VW must pay back the money
Great one! Thanks!
I'm a hectic VW fan but wow that superboss is amazing!!!!!!💪
Please do more of these type races.
Would be nice to tell the viewers what tyres are on each car. With a lot of power on a FWD car, rubber makes a lot of difference. Power is nothing if you can't put it down on the tarmac.
Props to the superboss!
Loved both the cars
Imagine a nice turbo on that boss, gti would've been destroyed ,a legendary car that boss is
Imagine adding 400kg to that boss
@@yaqeenalexander4052 stop hating bra its 780kg and 125kw. That's fucking INSANE for what it is. Just beacause you got destroyed by one doesn't mean you have to be a sore loser, you can be a loser tho👍
@@yaqeenalexander4052copium😂
Props to the Driver In that superboss🏅#ShiftingLikeABoss👌
That superboss is truely a beast Wow!!!
I can't believe this old car can keep up with a modern turbocharged 2liter plus it's dsg
With the wright driver it can even beat him
Sometimes l view your videos to hear the "Heeeello and welcome to...." Good to have you back!
Superboss should be returned and be manufactured again that was a legend
Enjoyed watching Ash matching 30 years younger car
That was a testament of how much of a beast Ash is! That launch was second to none! Ash did the work, not the cars. If the BOSS had a DSG and managed to launch the way Ash did, it would've probably beat the GTI. Pound for pound they are the same to me.
The Kadett's natural rival was not the over rated Golf it was a smaller car with a smaller motor and it was lighter it was called the Uno Turbo
Umm no
Natural rival to the kaddet was ford escort which itself also had sporty models.
Uno turbo would be competition to the corsa gsi and fiesta rs turbo
🤣😂😂 he had to mention the "check engine light" as one of the features......classic!!!
The Opel is a pure reflection of proper maintenance of a motor vehicle....and because its Ash, the gear shifts will be priceless..
If the superboss just had a 63 mm exhaust and a branch it would have won🤣
Definitely yes.
If it had a velocity stack out the headlight it wouldve won 😉 😂 😂
If... if... if... if a cow had a saddle it would be a horse :) If the Polo had a chip it would be 3 car lengths ahead.
Saw a glimpse of the dials there for a moment. Would be great to have a GoPro on the dials of both vehicles in the corner of the screen while racing.
Epic Guys :)
Ash is a good driver. Only good drivers can do that🔥🔥👌
the super boss still a legend
Suppie FTW even if it lost. One of the best cars ever built.
The late Chris America had 2 pilot the SB in this race....... Im positive SB would have come out tops.....
Nice race
Keep this type of content coming
Opel Mad
Dope content
Ash is just an amazing driver. 👏
For a car designed more than 30 years ago and still delivering a lot just shows how General Motors knew how to make cars with excellent mechanics, apart from the Opel/Vauxhall design, formerly until about 10 years ago here in Brazil Chevrolet manufactured these cars originally Opel/Vauxhall, after they sold Opel/Vauxhall we started to have Daewoo projects manufactured by Chevrolet, it was never the same again.
I'm impressed with the Opel
The next video should be the BMW 325is VS New Polo GTI
Polo GTi would gap the 325is easy. There's a Superboss vs 325is already and check how the boss beats the 325is. th-cam.com/video/E362nCGrYsY/w-d-xo.html
325is is slower
Kadett rules😍
Insane, that 900 kg figure really helps a lot ,Wonder ehat the Run-X 1. 8 Rsi will do with the Polo
Polo will take the runx, even if the rsi had a little more power the DSG clutching is just too strong
@@sh1tsfcked119 I do not dispute that, Would just be lovely to see what old vs new can do. DSG is the best transfer case one can get ,the shifts are just crazy
A 2.0 8v opel will outrun the run-x
I had the 84 GTi 😁😁😁
What a little rocket it was ‼️
What's happening !!! Great Video
Awesome
Suka banget
Prediction of Polo driver: "I am gonna get him on the lounch." Exactly the opposite happens.
I would have actually predicted it would go how it went, was surprised he said that actually. Maybe the fact that I own a 16v GSI helps, I know it's strengths and if anything it is that first few meters that it almost always has on other cars.
What monster taking on 2.0 turbo wow
I Like the way you shift gears. You make it look like a drinking a cup of coffee. Some day I'll be as good.