For what it's worth, I'm going to give kudos to Tim for taking part in this podcast, even though Jamey confronted him on different instances. Some good came out of this podcast.
My biggest criticism with this episode is just that it felt more like Jasta grilling Tim rather than a conversation. I appreciate asking the hard questions, and I’m glad he did, but there were times where it felt more like he was talking AT Tim. Toward the end it felt more conversational and had a good flow which I appreciated. Looking forward to part 2, and as someone else said; I hope new As I Lay Dying gets away from the “had fall to get back up” messaging.
I think Tim handles it well but they are questions that some people want to hear. Personally he messed up bad and I’m over that part. Just kind of hard for me as a drummer to listen to the band now as a fan of Jordan and also Nick.
@@clcare5563 I agree the questions needed to be asked. I just think it could’ve been done more conversationally and less like an interrogation, especially being that these guys have history. Just my opinion though!
@@clcare5563right?? Jordan was one of my most favorite drummers in the genre. Sad to see him go but Nick Pierce’s technical approach will be a great fit for the band.
Part of a journey back is having the tough conversations. I am proud of Tim and his progress and I know there is a lot of “ waaa Jasta whhy”. But truly he was given the opportunity to go deep and he did. They both have to build anew.
Tim handled this better than a lot of other frontmen would’ve. Kudos for him realizing the error in his near fatal lapse of judgement. Keep at it, man 🤘🏻
I wanna thank Jamey for this. I think many folks had these questions and opinions. I’m not a fan from back in the day of Tim’s band so I feel like I don’t have a dog in the race as far as being part of his fan base. My opinion is my own but I feel like he’s still obsessive about his physical identity. Also when pressed, I don’t think he addressed his wrong doing but like brushed it off as a momentary lapse of reason. For society’s sake, hope he uses his life for the betterment of others.
Props to Tim for coming on and talking about the whole situation.. and also props to jamey for asking the hard questions and clearing the air. This was a good episode for sure.
Tim and Jamey , i am a big fan of you both ) I am from Russia , I am 33 , and I listen to your music till I was 17 , your lyrics helped me to go through the difficult times . I was in a prison , I was alcohol addicted and now I fight the cancer ! Sometimes I think that my life will end soon , but I know that I will go THROUGH THE THORNS and THROUGH STRUGGLE ! I will stay alive! Thank you for your music !!! You are my heroes !
I appreciate both of these guys I appreciate Tim for being honest and raw and took some serious hard cutting questions and didn’t take a cowards way out I respect you Tim and I pray for your spiritual return to Christ but being honest that you are in a state of flux is respectable and better that lying about it Thanks jasta for asking hard questions and having some of the spiritual discussion on the podcast I hope if there is a part two you guys can deep dive on some artistic stuff and road stories,love on Tim a little bit in the midst of the questions of accountability
I feel like with the way the political climate is these days especially with some of our elected officials that Tim lambesis of as I lay dying is the least of my concerns
Live and let die... Nobody is perfect, not saying what he did wasnt wrong but he knows it, admits it, so let him suffer inside himself. Irs not anyone else's place to shame him.. except maybe his children. Stay strong bro, love this show Jasta!!!
Tim has done his tine and paid the price for what he has done. He is one super talented guy as far as music goes. I have always enjoyed his projects and will keep buying the albums when they come out
13:42 also given the background of jasta and literally what it says at the bottom of the information of this podcast I understand his position. In reality this is the best kinda convo you can get, someone who fervently stood on what they felt was wrong talking to a dude who fervently made amends and is trying to respect that going forward. These are the painful bandaids no one wants to rip off but we are all better and closer for it.
I’m glad this conversation happened. Tim opening up about his search/struggle to find a spiritual connection might be beneficial to someone watching that’s going through a similar situation. I know he can be a polarizing figure in the metal world, but I’m of the opinion that this discourse was a positive. 🤘
I’m not prepared for Nick’s drumming 🤯 Tim also said on a livestream that he screamed the highest he’s ever screamed on a song…I’m hoping to hear more of the high-pitched stuff like from records such as AOBU, TPR, and Awakened
Tim is a legend, he went through a hard time made BIG MISTAKES, paid his dues seems to make up for it best he can and moves on. I love the music he has made and it and his personal story has helped me not feel alone. He talked about child abuse he experienced in another interview, it’s no excuse but also abusing children isn’t excusable either so how many of us suffer in silence only to be known once we loose control.❤ much love time and much love to the former AILD members, I wish they stayed but tough times show peoples true colors and time is the ultimate judge. I love the new members because they come from my favorite bands. ❤
Please keep doing this man. In my humble opinion if you can't handle listening to things that might challenge you or make you uncomfortable you're not ready to learn from the uncomfortable truths.
I FUCKING love Tim. He's paid his debt to society. It's time for people to move the eff on already. I'm going to see AILD for the 3rd time since his release in July. Can't fuckin wait!!!!
Everything I needed or wanted to know about Tim's character was answered with his reaction to the starting a new family question. The dude was in a bad place and a scheming cop took advantage of that. I'll be supporting this man's music for sure.
This podcast is really a tale of two halves. The first half is slightly irritating with Jamey pushing the judgmental questions and Tim pushing back against them. The second half, Tim starts to lean into it and Jamey is much more understanding. My parting feeling is that Tim looks much the better for this edit: spelling
My best to anyone who gave him a chance that many wouldn’t have. I thought it was crazy that any original members would come back since they got lumped in with his poor decisions.
@christianmusician16 he's is the more plates more dates guy. It sounds like Tim wanted to talk about lifting and fitness but probably knew it's not the right audience. It would be cool to hear what his strategies are for good health.
Tim paid his debt to society. He was in a really bad place while dosing on unhealthy levels of steroids. Now he is only taking TRT to restore to what his baseline should be as his body is not producing testosterone naturally. Tim speaking out and talking about this as opposed to hiding from it shows that he is on a new, better path.
U can overlook a DUI, most can easily forgive a drunken disorderly conduct, but this dude hired a guy (so he thought) to KILL his own Baby & his wife! All good things he did since, Yes can be commended for them, but NOT just forgive a murder for hire,
A couple questions … I had no idea this guy was back so thanks for the pod . How is this guy back? No seriously ? Lastly , my girlfriend is a big Brand New fan so can we get them back? Or ….
Why did nearly every original member leave? It seems like they weren’t happy with one person, Tim. Phil is the only one who stayed for whatever reason.
Some people have zero intentions of forgiving someone or giving them a second chance as if they’re holier than thou. Everyone is human. The best thing to do running into those people is to disconnect. They will always have malicious intent.
It's hard for me to say 'I feel sorry for Tim Lambesis'. After this interview it's hard for me to NOT say 'I feel sorry for Tim Lambesis' . It's quite clear he feels TREMENDOUS guilt. He should, but there needs to be a day, ya know.....a bit further down the road, where he, regardless of how anyone else feels, must forgive himself. He knows it was a terrible situation/idea but as far as I'm concerned, he did what he did, was arrested, shamed, but did his time..... case closed!!! Hang in there, Tim. Just heal, breath, and carry on, sir.
Thank you for the video brother! Wish you both the best 🤘 gonna preorder the new Jasta For All cd tonight and just bought my tickets to see AILD in Portland Oregon woohoo🔥
Besides it all. I guess people who spend time judging and pointing fingers (which in this case I suppose it was warranted) forget that humans are flawed. And if we all were living life under a microscope that everyone could see, people would see the skeletons in our closets. What he did was fucked up but at the end of the day we're all fucked up , He just happened to be in highly successful metal band
I get the sense I have the same sort of "moral compass" that Jasta has, maybe even more so. But I fail to see what he's doing here other than the standard podcast angle. He did the time; if you have questions as to whether he's a rehabilitated guy, don't have him on your show. This situation isn't about you other than it's your forum, your podcast. This need to dwell on the insidious details of the "kids" and "equity" is too much. Let the man move on and anyone can decide whether he's worthy of support or not.
I would love to see an interview with Pat O'Brien but I don't wanna hear about his legal issues, I wanna hear about how he is now crushing it with Exhorder. Id love to hear tour stories from one of the god tier riff Kings, Mister Pat Obrien.
Asking Tim about Meggan and the kids at this point is stupid. He's agreed, and legally, not to speak about them. If you want to know about them you can only contact them and request an interview. It's for them to tell not him.
I think it's also super disrespectful to Meghan and his kids. I get wanting to scrutinize Tim, I even think Tim needs to be scrutinized if he's to show any real remorse for what he's done, but they were the victims of his actions so dragging them in to it unacceptable in my opinion.
Tim solid interview and Jasta man, kinda dick move about asking him about his kids and Ex. You shoulda known that woulda been a super wrong decision to ask.
Jamey, let me elaborate on the Tire Shop analogy...i understand what you're saying about the equity part...but...if the guy doesn't respond about playing, for MONTHS...then how does the band continue to make and play music? It's ends up becoming stale...you can't make music or play shows if you can't have a member even respond to confirm a 'yes' or 'no'...so I ask, what were they *supposed* to do? Just sit around twiddling their thumbs? Just stop making and not schedule shows to MAKE MONEY? You talk about equity, but if you don't make music and don't play shows, then you 'have equity' to something that is bringing in $0...so yes, I understand what you're saying, but you're forgetting that the work has to be put in (playing shows, recording music, etc) for there to be any kind of progress...so I still say the Tire Shop analogy makes sense...even if that employee was a 20% stakeholder in the Tire Shop, the other 4 people are going to want to continue to make money and move forward...the difference is that in a tire shop you can continue to change tires...in a band, if 1 member doesn't even respond, do they continue to make music without them? You tell me sir
I think it’s the difference between a session artist agreement and someone who enters an agreement to record/tour and be presented as a shared interest. Think they would’ve moved on without the member of it was a simple session fee.
It struck me while I was listening to this that I have been a Hatebreed fan for nearly 30 years but somehow managed to never have to hear Jamie talk about anything at length and oh boy do I wish I could go back to that. Jamie comes off as massively out of touch, it was like he refused to ask important questions…he did this entire interview on easy mode and came off as just cowardly and almost petty. I’m super disappointed with this, but props to the AILD guy for being a good sport about all of this. I have not been into their music since high school but was very interested to hear what he had to say.
Tim has alot of guilt for what he has done. As a person that has had alot of guilt myself, forgiveness starts with yourself. Only then can the healing truly began. I've been alcohol free since 2017. And it hurt in the after math. And it still does. We are our worst enemies. But don't judge yourself so harshly or condem yourself after a while. Keep your head up and move forward with awareness and self love. Love u Tim. Just keep trying to be better bro.
There's so much nuance in the aftermath of all of this that it's impossible to think of the situation in black and white terms. It's irresponsible to do so whatever side one finds themselves landing on. Personally speaking though, I wish Lambesis and especially all the other guys well. But I honestly don't listen to aild nearly at all anymore. As for the new stuff, it may be very good but it will never and could never hit the same way the previous albums did before all this went down. And unfortunately, the reputation of the other guys have been tainted given their walking back and getting the band back together. Very unique, strange, and unfortunate situation for all involved. That's not even mentioning the trauma his family has to live with.
I wish Jasta did some homework on the difference between testosterone and tren. Testosterone is a necessary product in the male body and if you lack it the mental decline is very scary. Ive been there. Went to a specialist and I have NEVER felt better. It’s about consistency. TREN on the other hand is only bad in my humble opinion. Big difference between the two and if theres any men reading these comments that have issues with depression/mental fatigue/poor sleep/anxiety/stress I suggest you don’t mask it with pharmaceuticals and go to a MENS HEALTH specialist where you can get all your blood work checked.
Should “move past it” is crazy dude. Folks should definitely have the ability to not be neutral towards plotting a murder. If Tim is not to blame, then who is responsable for premeditating the crime? Comment makes no sense SMH
@@TimmyTurner421 you’re entitled to think that’s enough but a lot is folks won’t agree and that’s okay too. I personally can’t feel the same way about him or the art even after growing up listening to AILD.
@@viceversa7245 i have the same feelings :( i saw them live in 2009 and I've even got a photo with Tim but every time I think of AILD and how I liked their music it makes me so sad
I'm an open minded person, and I feel anybody deserves a 2nd chance. I feel every thing he said in the interview was was genuine and he is a changed person.
He’s on TRT. Anyone that knows about juice, knows you retain a decent amount of your mass if you cruise on TRT. Have you seen the 55 year old guys in the gym that are very built? Good chance they’re on TRT
Jasta literally address this at the beginning of the pod. Clearing the air doesn’t mean he acting “morally superior.” Maybe look inward at your biases.
Jasta has been a bitch about this since Tim got out. The guy has the biggest music podcast audience and he abused it shit talking Tim. Props to Tim for even showing up with the way Jasta has talked about him since his release.
I wanna show my support for this man before watching and after. Thanks for the jams Tim, sorry you got jammed up for a while. Glad you are back. Love from the Pine Barrrens 🦖
Ì forgave Tim along time ago, real men apologize, confront the problem and do our best to be better people. We all have done terrible things as addicts. We are all humans making our way through horrible situations.
Jasta some of those questions were too brutal man. Like asking him when he's going to start a new family? After he roundabout sorta told you that he was upset about custody of his kids during his dark years. Who the fuck asks that and then cracks a water bottle like its nothing? Idk man this interview has weird disrespectful vibes. No friend would belabor points like that on air, after dude clearly said he legally cant talk about it.
Disrespectful vibes 😅 lol dude. He promoted christ and tried to hire a hit man to kill his wife. Of course you do t hear those sort of questions on any other podcast because who tf in a band that large gets caught trying to kill his wife. Maybe you should have skipped this one pal. Sounds like it was to much for ya.
You can’t do media and expect the topic not to come up. Jasta has to ask hard questions since it’s still a hard topic. A lot of us will never be able to see AILD or ADM quite the same again
@@viceversa7245yeah the topic is going to come up, but after a man respectfully says he promised those parties to never talk about it in the media again, you need to respect that and move on. The 4th time was 3 too many
@@mattsnacks I get what you’re saying but I can see why any interviewer would push to get him to address the subject in some way. If it’s a personal convo then I would agree completely but he’s doing promo with the media. This comes with the territory.
Why everyone hating on Jasta for asking these questions if you can’t be real with someone like that what’s the point. Not bad compared to Geraldo Rivera when he was going in hard on Earth Crisis singer for the straight edge and crews .
This is just akward...don't know that I can support him the way I once did, but I think there is healthy room for him to move forward. Still freakin awkward and he definitely still feels slightly off. With that, mad props to him for him sitting through the interview because Jammie did push the issue.
Starts the interview with immediate loaded questions to put him on the back foot. Then asks passive aggressive questions to see if he can pry personal details out of the fallout. Sleazy AF
Anger and resentment is in fact the devils work and it's very easy to get caught in the grip of evil. Its an evil possession of the mind and will make you do the unimaginable. Once people realize this, they can realize that healing from evil possession such as tims case is possible through positive scripture, prayer, forgiveness and positive action in the battle against evil.
Love how this episode aged. Tim is full of shit people, and Jamey gave him shit for a reason prior to the entire second lineup quitting in less than a week.
The new music needs to stop it with the "i had to lose everything to rebuild" message. We get you're sorry. Move on to a new message. Get back to the music before the bullshit.
I couldnt help but feel bad for Tim when Jasta gratuitously asked him the family question. Like families grow on trees. Tim obviously loves his kids despite what happened and its got to be the worst kind of hell being away from them, all the time missed. Having his kids taken away from him was his original motive for what he did in the first place. He did his time and has helped others along the way. He is many years removed from this now. I see a changed, remorseful person who misses his children. Then to listen to Jasta back pedal, just throwing a bunch of empty words out when Tim broke down was just pathetic. He doesnt owe you anything Jasta. You are not the gatekeeper to his redemption!
It clearly is something that haunts Tim to this day and it is helpful to see the level of remorse he has at times because that seemed to be missing when all of this went down. With that said, it was his actions that led to his family being taken away and he has to live with that. I myself struggle to forgive him and seeing him in interviews has helped but it is tough to just move past it or see him as a victim in any way. No, he doesn’t owe Jasta anything nor is Jasta the gatekeeper of Tim’s redemption but Jasta’s feelings represent a fair amount of fans who felt betrayed and can’t just move just because he served some time. This isn’t a drug sentence, it was a serious infraction and it is going to have a variety of emotions surrounding it.
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For what it's worth, I'm going to give kudos to Tim for taking part in this podcast, even though Jamey confronted him on different instances. Some good came out of this podcast.
Tim breaking down when asked about starting a new family hit me hard, ngl
As I lay crying 😢
Broke me immediately, couldn’t stop crying after that
My biggest criticism with this episode is just that it felt more like Jasta grilling Tim rather than a conversation. I appreciate asking the hard questions, and I’m glad he did, but there were times where it felt more like he was talking AT Tim. Toward the end it felt more conversational and had a good flow which I appreciated. Looking forward to part 2, and as someone else said; I hope new As I Lay Dying gets away from the “had fall to get back up” messaging.
“had fall to get back up” ----- Yup, they want to be FFDP (which is not a good thing).
Agree. There was some unnecessary grilling at the start. Tim handled it well.
I think Tim handles it well but they are questions that some people want to hear. Personally he messed up bad and I’m over that part. Just kind of hard for me as a drummer to listen to the band now as a fan of Jordan and also Nick.
@@clcare5563 I agree the questions needed to be asked. I just think it could’ve been done more conversationally and less like an interrogation, especially being that these guys have history. Just my opinion though!
@@clcare5563right?? Jordan was one of my most favorite drummers in the genre. Sad to see him go but Nick Pierce’s technical approach will be a great fit for the band.
Part of a journey back is having the tough conversations. I am proud of Tim and his progress and I know there is a lot of “ waaa Jasta whhy”. But truly he was given the opportunity to go deep and he did. They both have to build anew.
Tim handled this better than a lot of other frontmen would’ve. Kudos for him realizing the error in his near fatal lapse of judgement. Keep at it, man 🤘🏻
Shadows are security was such a major hit, man, so many tracks. I'd pay thousands of dollars for a killer voice like that!
It changed metal forever
One of the best albums ever
If you like the older vibe, then please check out my band Widow Anchor. We have 3 singles out now! We've been compared to AILD, ATR, KSE and Trivium.
I see what you did there 😂
Thank you Tim for not shying away from questions, and thank you Jamey for asking said questions
I wanna thank Jamey for this. I think many folks had these questions and opinions. I’m not a fan from back in the day of Tim’s band so I feel like I don’t have a dog in the race as far as being part of his fan base. My opinion is my own but I feel like he’s still obsessive about his physical identity. Also when pressed, I don’t think he addressed his wrong doing but like brushed it off as a momentary lapse of reason. For society’s sake, hope he uses his life for the betterment of others.
If anything, he wrote two albums that address his past wrongdoings and the hurt he caused along the way
@@krdrums00 he wrote music that he made money off of based on his past wrongdoings....I'm not sure that counts as anything to be proud of
Props to Tim for coming on and talking about the whole situation.. and also props to jamey for asking the hard questions and clearing the air. This was a good episode for sure.
Tim and Jamey , i am a big fan of you both ) I am from Russia , I am 33 , and I listen to your music till I was 17 , your lyrics helped me to go through the difficult times . I was in a prison , I was alcohol addicted and now I fight the cancer ! Sometimes I think that my life will end soon , but I know that I will go THROUGH THE THORNS and THROUGH STRUGGLE ! I will stay alive! Thank you for your music !!! You are my heroes !
Keep fighting the good fight! 💪🤘
I appreciate both of these guys I appreciate Tim for being honest and raw and took some serious hard cutting questions and didn’t take a cowards way out I respect you Tim and I pray for your spiritual return to Christ but being honest that you are in a state of flux is respectable and better that lying about it
Thanks jasta for asking hard questions and having some of the spiritual discussion on the podcast I hope if there is a part two you guys can deep dive on some artistic stuff and road stories,love on Tim a little bit in the midst of the questions of accountability
I feel like with the way the political climate is these days especially with some of our elected officials that Tim lambesis of as I lay dying is the least of my concerns
Interview Vince Neil (he killed someone and permanently crippled two others).
Tim has done more to try and be better than that fat acholic has ever done.
Live and let die... Nobody is perfect, not saying what he did wasnt wrong but he knows it, admits it, so let him suffer inside himself. Irs not anyone else's place to shame him.. except maybe his children. Stay strong bro, love this show Jasta!!!
The only comment that makes sense.
Read all the comments and the very first one is the one I agree with most.
Tim has done his tine and paid the price for what he has done. He is one super talented guy as far as music goes. I have always enjoyed his projects and will keep buying the albums when they come out
13:42 also given the background of jasta and literally what it says at the bottom of the information of this podcast I understand his position. In reality this is the best kinda convo you can get, someone who fervently stood on what they felt was wrong talking to a dude who fervently made amends and is trying to respect that going forward. These are the painful bandaids no one wants to rip off but we are all better and closer for it.
I’m glad this conversation happened. Tim opening up about his search/struggle to find a spiritual connection might be beneficial to someone watching that’s going through a similar situation. I know he can be a polarizing figure in the metal world, but I’m of the opinion that this discourse was a positive. 🤘
Proceed Richard !
@@naturalianoss 🤘
The new Austrian Death Machine is awesome, so im hoping the new As I Lay Dying will be just as good or better.
I’m not prepared for Nick’s drumming 🤯 Tim also said on a livestream that he screamed the highest he’s ever screamed on a song…I’m hoping to hear more of the high-pitched stuff like from records such as AOBU, TPR, and Awakened
Tim is a legend, he went through a hard time made BIG MISTAKES, paid his dues seems to make up for it best he can and moves on. I love the music he has made and it and his personal story has helped me not feel alone. He talked about child abuse he experienced in another interview, it’s no excuse but also abusing children isn’t excusable either so how many of us suffer in silence only to be known once we loose control.❤ much love time and much love to the former AILD members, I wish they stayed but tough times show peoples true colors and time is the ultimate judge. I love the new members because they come from my favorite bands. ❤
Please keep doing this man. In my humble opinion if you can't handle listening to things that might challenge you or make you uncomfortable you're not ready to learn from the uncomfortable truths.
I FUCKING love Tim. He's paid his debt to society. It's time for people to move the eff on already. I'm going to see AILD for the 3rd time since his release in July. Can't fuckin wait!!!!
It’s one of the flaws in the metal community. A lot of metal-heads hold a grudge like no other. Speaking from experience.
Doesn't look like he's changed with what's going on now
Kudos to Jamey for asking the tough questions. No matter how it comes out, it can't be easy for Tim to face what happened.
53:10 has to be talking about Hipa
Everything I needed or wanted to know about Tim's character was answered with his reaction to the starting a new family question.
The dude was in a bad place and a scheming cop took advantage of that. I'll be supporting this man's music for sure.
Man, as a father of three boys, the thought of losing them forever is truly heartbreaking. It’d be very tough to come back from that.
Proud of you Tim. Keep pushing forward
Pride before the fall long live as I lay crying(in my prison cell)
This podcast is really a tale of two halves. The first half is slightly irritating with Jamey pushing the judgmental questions and Tim pushing back against them. The second half, Tim starts to lean into it and Jamey is much more understanding. My parting feeling is that Tim looks much the better for this
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My best to anyone who gave him a chance that many wouldn’t have. I thought it was crazy that any original members would come back since they got lumped in with his poor decisions.
Phil stuck around. Like a mf boss 🤘🏻
@@bryceharney5960that worked out well 😅
Thank you for having tim on the show
I love AILD
I would really like to see Derek and Tim talk for sure. That would be a killer discussion.
Derek who?
@christianmusician16 he's is the more plates more dates guy. It sounds like Tim wanted to talk about lifting and fitness but probably knew it's not the right audience. It would be cool to hear what his strategies are for good health.
Tim paid his debt to society. He was in a really bad place while dosing on unhealthy levels of steroids. Now he is only taking TRT to restore to what his baseline should be as his body is not producing testosterone naturally. Tim speaking out and talking about this as opposed to hiding from it shows that he is on a new, better path.
U can overlook a DUI, most can easily forgive a drunken disorderly conduct, but this dude hired a guy (so he thought) to KILL his own Baby & his wife! All good things he did since, Yes can be commended for them, but NOT just forgive a murder for hire,
A couple questions …
I had no idea this guy was back so thanks for the pod .
How is this guy back?
No seriously ?
Lastly , my girlfriend is a big Brand New fan so can we get them back? Or ….
@@Mike-oz5pp He was not paying to kill his baby, just the wife.
Hahahahahaha what a joke
Why did nearly every original member leave? It seems like they weren’t happy with one person, Tim. Phil is the only one who stayed for whatever reason.
I am just happy and stoked for the upcoming tour! I can't wait to see As I lay dying @ El Rey in Albuquerque. See ya!!
Tim is awesome!!
Some people have zero intentions of forgiving someone or giving them a second chance as if they’re holier than thou. Everyone is human. The best thing to do running into those people is to disconnect. They will always have malicious intent.
someone has the link to the therapist interview? From Jasta's words it sounded really interesting and I'd like to watch it
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I've listened to it a couple times. Very touching.
I love you Tim, got unconditional love and respect dude, please take care.
As my wife not lay dying
Man that Jasta For ALL logo is dope af.
Justice happens to be my personal favorite Album from Metallica Great interview btw
It's hard for me to say 'I feel sorry for Tim Lambesis'. After this interview it's hard for me to NOT say 'I feel sorry for Tim Lambesis' . It's quite clear he feels TREMENDOUS guilt. He should, but there needs to be a day, ya know.....a bit further down the road, where he, regardless of how anyone else feels, must forgive himself. He knows it was a terrible situation/idea but as far as I'm concerned, he did what he did, was arrested, shamed, but did his time..... case closed!!! Hang in there, Tim. Just heal, breath, and carry on, sir.
I'm routing for you Tim. And I'm praying for you to find your way back to Christ.
Thank you for the video brother! Wish you both the best 🤘 gonna preorder the new Jasta For All cd tonight and just bought my tickets to see AILD in Portland Oregon woohoo🔥
Besides it all. I guess people who spend time judging and pointing fingers (which in this case I suppose it was warranted) forget that humans are flawed. And if we all were living life under a microscope that everyone could see, people would see the skeletons in our closets. What he did was fucked up but at the end of the day we're all fucked up , He just happened to be in highly successful metal band
I get the sense I have the same sort of "moral compass" that Jasta has, maybe even more so. But I fail to see what he's doing here other than the standard podcast angle. He did the time; if you have questions as to whether he's a rehabilitated guy, don't have him on your show. This situation isn't about you other than it's your forum, your podcast. This need to dwell on the insidious details of the "kids" and "equity" is too much. Let the man move on and anyone can decide whether he's worthy of support or not.
Im glad we had this, so can we get Varg next?
Haaaa!
Love the uno reverse Tim pulled on Jasta with the BBQ zinger❤😂😅😊
That's something I would pay to see
I would love to see an interview with Pat O'Brien but I don't wanna hear about his legal issues, I wanna hear about how he is now crushing it with Exhorder. Id love to hear tour stories from one of the god tier riff Kings, Mister Pat Obrien.
Asking Tim about Meggan and the kids at this point is stupid. He's agreed, and legally, not to speak about them.
If you want to know about them you can only contact them and request an interview. It's for them to tell not him.
I think it's also super disrespectful to Meghan and his kids. I get wanting to scrutinize Tim, I even think Tim needs to be scrutinized if he's to show any real remorse for what he's done, but they were the victims of his actions so dragging them in to it unacceptable in my opinion.
Tim solid interview and Jasta man, kinda dick move about asking him about his kids and Ex. You shoulda known that woulda been a super wrong decision to ask.
Jamey, let me elaborate on the Tire Shop analogy...i understand what you're saying about the equity part...but...if the guy doesn't respond about playing, for MONTHS...then how does the band continue to make and play music? It's ends up becoming stale...you can't make music or play shows if you can't have a member even respond to confirm a 'yes' or 'no'...so I ask, what were they *supposed* to do? Just sit around twiddling their thumbs? Just stop making and not schedule shows to MAKE MONEY? You talk about equity, but if you don't make music and don't play shows, then you 'have equity' to something that is bringing in $0...so yes, I understand what you're saying, but you're forgetting that the work has to be put in (playing shows, recording music, etc) for there to be any kind of progress...so I still say the Tire Shop analogy makes sense...even if that employee was a 20% stakeholder in the Tire Shop, the other 4 people are going to want to continue to make money and move forward...the difference is that in a tire shop you can continue to change tires...in a band, if 1 member doesn't even respond, do they continue to make music without them? You tell me sir
I think it’s the difference between a session artist agreement and someone who enters an agreement to record/tour and be presented as a shared interest. Think they would’ve moved on without the member of it was a simple session fee.
I thought Josh wrote a big portion of Awakened. I wasn't there, so don't know for sure but I came to understand Josh was a writer.
You are correct
Podcast with THE BLACK DAHLIA MURDER
Still saddens me that Trevor passed away
12:33 she did ask legally for him to not talk about them. He doing his best to do that.
Tim is the man. I just hope AILD will come back to Russia one day, there are A LOT of fans here. Break the wall, f**k the politics and come here!
The tire shop analogy is fine. Jasta is fishing
I disagree...
Revive the SD metal scene brother!
It struck me while I was listening to this that I have been a Hatebreed fan for nearly 30 years but somehow managed to never have to hear Jamie talk about anything at length and oh boy do I wish I could go back to that. Jamie comes off as massively out of touch, it was like he refused to ask important questions…he did this entire interview on easy mode and came off as just cowardly and almost petty. I’m super disappointed with this, but props to the AILD guy for being a good sport about all of this. I have not been into their music since high school but was very interested to hear what he had to say.
Interview Victor Salva, Jeffrey Jones, and MVP. They were all in trouble and have asked the question, "When do I stop being a criminal?"
Tim has alot of guilt for what he has done. As a person that has had alot of guilt myself, forgiveness starts with yourself. Only then can the healing truly began. I've been alcohol free since 2017. And it hurt in the after math. And it still does. We are our worst enemies. But don't judge yourself so harshly or condem yourself after a while. Keep your head up and move forward with awareness and self love. Love u Tim. Just keep trying to be better bro.
Excellent interview.
It was? Jamie is a punk.
This went too hard
Please get Glenn Fricker on the show!! Lots of awesome perspectives you can get from him
I love glenns channel, as a poor muscian, its good to have his honest eyes out there .
I’ll be there in Sacramento can’t wait!!
There's so much nuance in the aftermath of all of this that it's impossible to think of the situation in black and white terms. It's irresponsible to do so whatever side one finds themselves landing on. Personally speaking though, I wish Lambesis and especially all the other guys well. But I honestly don't listen to aild nearly at all anymore. As for the new stuff, it may be very good but it will never and could never hit the same way the previous albums did before all this went down. And unfortunately, the reputation of the other guys have been tainted given their walking back and getting the band back together. Very unique, strange, and unfortunate situation for all involved. That's not even mentioning the trauma his family has to live with.
GREAT JAMIE RIGHT OUT OF BOX NO BULLSHIT .
Would love to see Tim go on moreplatesmoredates podcast.
I hated Tim for that , but publicly apologized for my ignorance. Tim accepted it., and I'm grateful
Im looking forward to Jamey interviewing the remaing members of Linkin Park after what their singer did.
I wish Jasta did some homework on the difference between testosterone and tren. Testosterone is a necessary product in the male body and if you lack it the mental decline is very scary. Ive been there. Went to a specialist and I have NEVER felt better. It’s about consistency. TREN on the other hand is only bad in my humble opinion. Big difference between the two and if theres any men reading these comments that have issues with depression/mental fatigue/poor sleep/anxiety/stress I suggest you don’t mask it with pharmaceuticals and go to a MENS HEALTH specialist where you can get all your blood work checked.
Most people are INCREDIBLY ill informed on this subject while believing they are incredibly knowledgeable on it.
Great interview. Big fan of them both. Almost felt uncomfortable for a bit of this.
I don't blame Tim. Nor do I think it's good. Just a shitty situation. We as metal heads can and hopefully have moved past it.
Should “move past it” is crazy dude. Folks should definitely have the ability to not be neutral towards plotting a murder. If Tim is not to blame, then who is responsable for premeditating the crime? Comment makes no sense SMH
He did his time and genuinely regrets what he's done and that's enough.
@@TimmyTurner421 you’re entitled to think that’s enough but a lot is folks won’t agree and that’s okay too. I personally can’t feel the same way about him or the art even after growing up listening to AILD.
@@viceversa7245 i have the same feelings :( i saw them live in 2009 and I've even got a photo with Tim but every time I think of AILD and how I liked their music it makes me so sad
If metalheads can forgive Tim Lambesis, I think metalheads can forgive Jon Schaefer for what he did.
I'm an open minded person, and I feel anybody deserves a 2nd chance. I feel every thing he said in the interview was was genuine and he is a changed person.
Jon did nothing wrong to begin with
Who?
so you're telling to forgive a singer of Lostprophets?
Jon did something?!
No steroids its a fuckin lie.....he Is pumped AF
He’s on TRT. Anyone that knows about juice, knows you retain a decent amount of your mass if you cruise on TRT. Have you seen the 55 year old guys in the gym that are very built? Good chance they’re on TRT
Damn, I've never seen Jamey be so openly aggressive and negative toward a guest. I can't say I'm a fan of morally superior Jasta.
Jasta literally address this at the beginning of the pod. Clearing the air doesn’t mean he acting “morally superior.” Maybe look inward at your biases.
He should have said no to this one .but views are good too
Jasta has been a bitch about this since Tim got out. The guy has the biggest music podcast audience and he abused it shit talking Tim. Props to Tim for even showing up with the way Jasta has talked about him since his release.
Jasta! WTF dude! You’ve been told 10 times the same exact thing. I thought English was your native language 🤨
It’s about time
Love Tim, not the other guy so much.
I wanna show my support for this man before watching and after. Thanks for the jams Tim, sorry you got jammed up for a while. Glad you are back. Love from the Pine Barrrens 🦖
Ì forgave Tim along time ago, real men apologize, confront the problem and do our best to be better people. We all have done terrible things as addicts. We are all humans making our way through horrible situations.
Jasta some of those questions were too brutal man. Like asking him when he's going to start a new family? After he roundabout sorta told you that he was upset about custody of his kids during his dark years. Who the fuck asks that and then cracks a water bottle like its nothing? Idk man this interview has weird disrespectful vibes. No friend would belabor points like that on air, after dude clearly said he legally cant talk about it.
Disrespectful vibes 😅 lol dude. He promoted christ and tried to hire a hit man to kill his wife. Of course you do t hear those sort of questions on any other podcast because who tf in a band that large gets caught trying to kill his wife. Maybe you should have skipped this one pal. Sounds like it was to much for ya.
This is the world we are living in today.
Bruh yes this😮
Are you not on GaS Digital anymore?
When as i lay dying drop new single from new album already?
Mixing/mastering is happening rn. Tim said first single should be around May. I heard some teasers from the recording sessions and they are sickkk
@@krdrums00 Thanks, man. Are you sure the single coming out in May?
@@krdrums00 I hope it comes out soon...They sure are taking their time
Damn Jamey… get a fuckin hint that he doesn’t wanna talk about his ex and children
You can’t do media and expect the topic not to come up. Jasta has to ask hard questions since it’s still a hard topic. A lot of us will never be able to see AILD or ADM quite the same again
@@viceversa7245yeah the topic is going to come up, but after a man respectfully says he promised those parties to never talk about it in the media again, you need to respect that and move on. The 4th time was 3 too many
@@mattsnacks I get what you’re saying but I can see why any interviewer would push to get him to address the subject in some way. If it’s a personal convo then I would agree completely but he’s doing promo with the media. This comes with the territory.
Why everyone hating on Jasta for asking these questions if you can’t be real with someone like that what’s the point. Not bad compared to Geraldo Rivera when he was going in hard on Earth Crisis singer for the straight edge and crews .
Didn't realize Dave and Jasta were on the same donors
We all fuck up, some “more” than others.
When I started my testosterone therapy I experienced rage it's real
Thought you spoke shit about Tim many years ago for what he did.
The things we did for money.
His personal life is nobody's business. I wouldn't have even brought the subject up.
This is just akward...don't know that I can support him the way I once did, but I think there is healthy room for him to move forward.
Still freakin awkward and he definitely still feels slightly off. With that, mad props to him for him sitting through the interview because Jammie did push the issue.
I’ve been waiting for this one!
We’re still talking about this a thousand years later?
This topic owns Jamie's mind, he cbt let it go
Starts the interview with immediate loaded questions to put him on the back foot. Then asks passive aggressive questions to see if he can pry personal details out of the fallout. Sleazy AF
I wonder what he did to make everyone leave AILD. What a bummer.
Anger and resentment is in fact the devils work and it's very easy to get caught in the grip of evil.
Its an evil possession of the mind and will make you do the unimaginable.
Once people realize this, they can realize that healing from evil possession such as tims case is possible through positive scripture, prayer, forgiveness and positive action in the battle against evil.
Love how this episode aged. Tim is full of shit people, and Jamey gave him shit for a reason prior to the entire second lineup quitting in less than a week.
Tim's read some William Lane Craig? ok Nice!
The new music needs to stop it with the "i had to lose everything to rebuild" message. We get you're sorry. Move on to a new message. Get back to the music before the bullshit.
Hard agree.
lmfao ok
Tbf, it was a huge, life-changing event for the band. It would make sense that they would want to continue reinforcing that message
Get real, Shaped by Fire is by far one of their best albums. Unlike Lamb of God's terrible "comeback" record after Randy got released.
THIS IS A DREAM RAP METAPHORE 😂😂😂
Jesus loves you, Tim. And he's more than just a wise man - I think you know that, brother.
I couldnt help but feel bad for Tim when Jasta gratuitously asked him the family question. Like families grow on trees. Tim obviously loves his kids despite what happened and its got to be the worst kind of hell being away from them, all the time missed. Having his kids taken away from him was his original motive for what he did in the first place. He did his time and has helped others along the way. He is many years removed from this now. I see a changed, remorseful person who misses his children. Then to listen to Jasta back pedal, just throwing a bunch of empty words out when Tim broke down was just pathetic. He doesnt owe you anything Jasta. You are not the gatekeeper to his redemption!
It clearly is something that haunts Tim to this day and it is helpful to see the level of remorse he has at times because that seemed to be missing when all of this went down. With that said, it was his actions that led to his family being taken away and he has to live with that. I myself struggle to forgive him and seeing him in interviews has helped but it is tough to just move past it or see him as a victim in any way. No, he doesn’t owe Jasta anything nor is Jasta the gatekeeper of Tim’s redemption but Jasta’s feelings represent a fair amount of fans who felt betrayed and can’t just move just because he served some time. This isn’t a drug sentence, it was a serious infraction and it is going to have a variety of emotions surrounding it.