Tim should be a spokesperson for people to heal and he’s real. Love this guy. Thanks for this providing a platform. I’m listening to AILD again big time
This is so cool to hear grown men getting vulnerable and being so open about deep issues. Real life problems and solutions right here. I’ve sent this podcast to a few people that can relate who are in the music industry
Garza's comment about being unlovable hit home for me...I'm not the person I used to be and it's hard to get back to a good mindset again to be someone worthy of being loved. I'm surprised my wife hasn't left me already. Sadly I don't know how to change it on my own so perhaps therapy is the solution.
@@thekraken4886 for fucking real the hardest decisions will CHANGE YOUR LIFE and you shouldn’t dwell on it, don’t give yourself an opportunity to wish you did it earlier get it done
My first metal show was seeing As I Lay Dying (they opened), Chimaira, In Flames, & Killswitch on the End of Heartache tour in 2004. One of the best shows of my life.
I saw this show also in Phx, AZ but it was far from my first. My first was 10 years earlier. Im old lol. I first saw In Flames in 2000 twice. They were my fave band from 1997-2002
@@pleasuretokill It's hard for me to remember if that was indeed my first metal show or not. I really think it was. But I also remember seeing Static-X a handful of times back in the early 2000s so it's a bit skewed. The Freddy vs Jason Soundtrack was my introduction to just about every band on that bill strangely enough and SO many of my favorite bands still to this day. Killswitch Engage with Howard's first contribution with the band "When Darkness Falls". In Flames' "Trigger" was the first song by them I'd ever heard. Chimaira's "Army of Me". Great soundtrack, great bands, great show.
I’ve seen firsthand that Tim is the real deal. We have a mutual friend that is an insane drummer, awesome father, but spiraled back into drug addiction when his ex used our disgusting system to rip his daughter away from him. Tim was right there, right away, sending him care packages and providing support. From what I’ve seen, he’s the real deal.
I have some pretty massive respect for this man after watching this. I feel his regret is genuine. With him not being afraid to talk about it. Even after all these years as transparently and honestly as he can shows this. The respect he shows for his former band mates even though they can't put what he did behind them. I hope everything works out for all of them.
Because it's disgusting. If you knew him personally and tried to have one of your sisters killed you think you'd be up to forgiving him yet or is just cause he is like a D level metal celebrity?
@@xkmmx2132 with people like you that are filled with hate and don't know the word ''forgive'' you only would make the things worse, everyone messes up and i'm not defending him but if somebody actually makes the effort to be a better person why not forgive him and gave him a second chance? i think the only one disgusting here is you, you can't always condemn people and not having the intelligence and compassion to forgive if it's necessary you gonna live a sad life living with that resentment and moral superiority
@xkmmx2132 not even a relevant question. They are free to not forgive him. We just gotta forgive him enough to enjoy his music. Not that it's even our place not being at all involved in the sitation to offer forgiveness - he didn't do anything to us.
@@dustyw I'll keep humming that tune too. Tim doesn't deserve to live it down. He deserves to be in prison... 2 years for attempted murder of your life partner is an absolute joke. And so are the people that d ride Tim
Props to Tim for taking accountability and being open about his whole situation. To be fair, I don’t think people necessarily hate him. I believe they’re just hurt and disappointed for what he did.
I recently started listening to Born Through Fire but questioned some of the lyrics. I thought he was being prideful about his rise out of the ashes. After listening to this, I was wrong. Tim is a humble man and is on a journey navigating through the pain to restoration. God is still doing a work in you Tim. Praying for you brother.
Tim is a solid dude. He’s unique in a way that really interests me. I want to listen to him talk when I get a chance. He doesn’t let anything get in the way of his goals and is always so positive and caring. It’s still hard to comprehend what he did. But.. I understand domestic stuff with kids involved gets icky.
As I lay dying is the single most important band to get me into metal as a teenager. The sound was tighter than most local bands and the riffs were easy to learn. My old band covered Forever so many times live.
Hearing him talk about Jesus makes me want to throw up. People are gullible and he's relying on that to get back out there. Fact is if any of that ish is real he's got a first class ticket to hell waiting for him.
Man I just started listening to this podcast and I gotta say, Garza is a FANTASTIC interviewer. Really down to earth guy who wants to understand. Much props to him.
Some people in the comments really vomiting all their hate and negativity. It’s fine to not support the dude, but he HAS to move on with his life. So should you
Spewing hate, about a person who tried to kill somebody? Seems pretty valid. Great, he did his jail time, but that doesn't mean people are supposed to forget and forgive that that's who he is as a person. You want to listen to his music? Feel free, but you're listening to and putting money in the pocket of this guy.
@@davisonsarai7763 your comment is valid and written in a mature way - I’m literally referring to hate comments, insults etc. Hate is never a positive thing, by definition.
@@davisonsarai7763 putting money into the pocket of someone who was successfully rehabilitated? Oh the horror! Get off your high horse. In the eyes of the law, he is time served and cleared AND he has turned his whole life around because he was successfully rehabilitated. This is the best possible outcome and you’re still not satisfied? Get over yourself.
@@PigglyWigglyDeluxe no that's my point, I'm never going to be satisfied. I don't need to get over myself. And I don't care about the law, I don't need the lot to tell me that a person is immoral. I'm glad he's not murdering people anymore, that's fantastic news. That's a really high bar he's stepping over, not trying to kill people anymore. Have a good time.
@@alee7275 instrumentally, yes. But the mix/master sounds dated and you can’t understand a single word Tim is saying. My vocal annunciation is a thousand times better than Tim’s and he had been screaming for 2 years longer than I currently have.
@@CognitomanFeels bad? He is just spewing what he's been told to spew by his PR team. Jesus? You think he's really embraced that crap? No. It's just his best shot at improving his public relations. Metal heads for the most part are solid. But there's a bunch of push overs that buy his pathetic sympathy trip. They even feel bad for him as if he was the one that had a hit put out on him by his life partner. It's painful to see
I mean, Idc lol. Dude tried to kill his wife. The fact that y'all look past that because he can scream moderately well is unfathomable to me. Far better vocalists out there who didn't try to kill a mother lmao 1:01:00 he talks about how hard it is returning back to society after prison, like yeah buster, the whole point is to motivate you NOT to go to prison. Wish criminals would think about that before complaining
I honestly don't see all the hate towards Tim. The man made a mistake and moved on with his life and clearly made himself into a better person. AILD was single handedly the band that cemented the metal core legacy for me early on.
@@YungGrandson not really. I'm just saying the joke would have stuck more if he had succeeded. Not saying that I wish that happened. I'm just saying the joke doesn't exactly work in this case. Or "Pun" I should say
@@YungGrandson in actuality, I was shocked and disappointed in Tim when the news of that broke out. He was one of my musical heroes in high school. Yeah, his ex wife was a nasty, scheming bitch but having her taken out isn't the way at all. He should have played the long game and exposed her for who she truly is instead of essentially making a martyr out of her, which only helps her own agenda further. But he was also roided the fuck out and being an overaggressive idiot who clearly wasn't thinking rationally
You should do an interview with CJ McMahon from Thy Art Is Murder. That would be some great content. Or even Alex Terrible would be a good episode also.
This was a 10/10 podcast man. I understand people may not like Tim and probably never will. However I think it also shows what kind of people we are if we aren't willing to give someone else a second chance. The man has done his time, has made an effort to help others not go down the same path. You don't have to like the man Tim was, but hopefully one day you can like the man he became. I just don't see the point in constantly bringing up someone's lowest moment over and over again as if these fans were victims themselves. Why not appreciate that someone who's done prison time and is striving to make amendments and help others, instead of constantly shitting on them? I hope people like Tim can help inspire other inmates to do the same and find a cause after prison. Cause our system won't.
@@jamesross9724 Yep, but luckily nobody was harmed. He paid his time in prison, and has been working on being a new man. You dont have to like him, but some of us show empathy for someone who has wronged, and is on the right path of life. He made amends with his ex wife, his band mates and he paid his dues. Why not show compassion to someone who is trying to be a better human being and helping others not do the same thing.
He ain't honorable. He attempted murder. He got caught, and frankly, got off light. He's nothing to admire. Real men don't hurt women, much less try to murder them. He's a pussy, who's earned tits to match.
@@anthonyfrombelowYou are posting a ton of reply comments on this video to everyone who shows even the smallest amount of support for Tim. Don't you have a life to live? Why not just ignore Tim, and pretend he doesn't exist if it offends you so much that people are willing to give him a second chance? Just because people support Tim doesn't mean they don't condone his heinous crime of solicitation to murder his ex-wife. You can be judged for past mistakes, learn, and try to become a better person. Not everyone who does wrong will, but I have witnessed said positive change in my own family as I had someone go through something similar. It took me a long time to accept what my family member did, but eventually I was able to learn acceptance, and spread love. It just takes maturity to understand that everyone makes mistakes some of them more serious than other's. Some of them unforgivable. I personally don't forgive Tim's prior actions, but I do believe that he has made a consistent attempt to change for the better. I hope that you never do anything that hurts another person physically, mentally, or spiritually because you obviously lack compassion or any ounce of forgiveness regardless of context, reason, or logic. So it wouldn't be paid forward on your end.
I can't believe I just found this podcast less than a week ago. Been a fan since the first album made waves on the east coast. I love this shit man tons of great interviews and dudes just chilling. Much love and support for this to get bigger. To quote from the ricky hoover podcast "no more positivity keep it negative" lmfao 🤘🏻 keep killing it dude
Dude for real just casually mentions how "he was single for a bit and interested in dating" when he tried to off his old lady lol. Like it's just another random thing that happened and it's no biggie. Just weird to me.
52:18 What Tim's saying here rings so true. I've been to prison for theft to feed a drug addiction, twice. Please, think before you act... 5 seconds could cost you 5 years of your life, or worse... Much love everyone 💜
Pretty touching interview. Mad props to Tim being so earnest and upright, definitely changed my opinions about him after he laid it out from his perspective.
Loved that they got into trauma and the debate of therapy cost & accessibility. I appreciate their vulnerability and want to echo the encouragement to go balls deep into your healing.
Dude, let me tell you guys a interesting story here, so when they came to my country Taiwan in 2013 I had the live DVD that I was going to get them signed but failed, I was so disappointed, right after they finished the show and got back to US Tim got arrested, and the rest is history. Fast forward to early 2020 before the pandemic hit they did the “reunion” tour in Asia and came to my country Taiwan again, I was beyond excited, the show promoter is my good friend so I got a chance to interview Tim in person, they’re all half joking about Tim saying that he’s a big guy and scary by the things he did, but we sat down and had a great conversation about 20 mins and he is polite and friendly, then I finally got the DVD along with 3 LP records signed by the full members, plus I was also the drum tech for Jordan on that show, I kinda feel that the line up wasn’t going to last long so I grab the chance to get all my stuff signed, I have picture to prove on my Instagram if you scroll down to that time. Anyway AILD will forever be one of my biggest influences and favorite bands since I discovered them in my high school years, that’s pre TH-cam age, I went to yahoo music and click on metal/rock genre to see the chart almost everyday, that’s how I found Through Struggle MV and got into the band, thanks for the memory guys, love from Taiwan 🇹🇼
So, i was thinking - you want to say, that it's in some way ever better for Tim to get the whole new aild line up, of a better musicians and personas to keep the machine called as i lay dying go on?
As a fan this has been a healing interview for myself as well. I didn't know about the video the guys uploaded talking about how they felt and what they've been through and I looked it up because of this interview. When I first saw Tim's name on this episode I was like WTF!? Why are people giving this MF a platform? I was legit never going to forgive Tim and never listen to his music again...but I've found myself listening to their new material and connecting with it. Thank you for this.
I like what Tim says about incarceration not being anything therapeutic and it needs to be talked about because if you send someone to prison for 3 or 10 or 20 years even, that person will get out at some point so what has the prison process as a whole done during that time to correct and rehabilitate that persons behavior? Sounds like next to nothing as I don't think fear of going back is enough sometimes (as Tim also stated in reference to gang members)
👏🏻 Couldn’t have said it any better. Our system and the culture of America is to only punish. Problem is, punishing someone doesn’t fix the issue and doesn’t teach them the skills they need to be a better person in society. In fact, for most people it only makes it worse. Without interventions that focus to correct the core issues, it’s just a vicious cycle that can’t be broken. You can hate the crime the person did, have compete disapproval of that person’s choices, but still be a fan of wanting to see them change and grow into someone who helps rather than hurts people.
@@anoceanbetweenus89 people don’t want to fix the issues. It’s easier for most people to kick the problems under the rug and continue to hate others for their mistakes.
@@Cognitoman if he changed then why is he clearly back on the roids which he blames for his sins? You can't just blame a drug then willingly go get hooked on the stuff again. If he really blames the roids then he should have gone through rehab to stay off them.
This was a great conversation, props to both Chris and Tim for bringing a lot of deep topics to the light and letting the fans of Tim and AILD have some clarity.
Great interview, love the respect and feedback Garza gives❤️ it’s a touchy subject, but I believe in 2nd chances as well. AILD will forever be my favorite band, rooting for ya Tim stay strong!🙏🏻💪🏼🤘🏼🔥
1:15:12...It isn't about the rest of civilization wanting you to witness trauma or participate in new trauma; it is about you accepting your punishment for a crime you committed. You were willing to pay to have your wife killed. I don't give a fuck if you have 'bad memories' of prison. Good. I'm glad that you don't get to see your children anymore. Not because it hurts you but because it relieves them of the tension of having to be around you. If you say you are willing to create a new life and rehabilitate outside of prison, more power to you. But this belief that prison is meant for rehabilitation is asinine. You are being punished. Your freedom is taken away. Your rehabilitation falls 100% at your feet and what you decide to do with it revolves entirely with your own decision making.
Blablabla.. spew your hate elsewhere Nancy. Grow a pair, go outside, touch some grass, talk with a woman for once! Instead of doing that, you're whining in the TH-cam comments section 😄🤦♂️
@@prepperandson1399 i don't like what he did i agree wit you on that 100%. But Garza seems like a good dude who had good intentions doing this interview. Not to glorify Tim but just talk about his journey.
Tim bro people don’t hate you for what you did. They hate you for how you did it. If a partner neglects you from seeing and spending time with your kids you don’t hire a hitman to take her out. You do the job yourself bro
Thanks Chris and Tim for this really awesome listen. Chris, I'd love to see Alex the Terrible on the show if possible. I know he's worked on his English a lot and given what's happening in Russia/Ukraine, I'd love to hear from him. I'm hoping to see Slaughter to Prevail next month.
For sure, but it’s okay to not see past what he did. Everyone can be forgiving, some of us don’t have to. The comment section is so understanding and it can be somewhat unnerving to read. The commitment to the artist so much that whatever happened is permissible. Fair enough…two ways to look at this.
@Mezzy Mez Sometimes you’re exactly right… but Tim vocals have gotten a slightly deeper tone to them now, and after listening to their latest live version of Confined I’m convinced that re-recording Shadows are Security would be epic!
Damn I never thought I would see Tim fall apart. Kudos to him for genuinely trying to change. And fuck the haters man. What he did was not okay and nobody should ever do. But you can tell he feels bad about it. And is trying to change.
I cried listening to Tim talk about his struggles as a father and his feelings of isolation. Thank you for having him on the pod. Been a fan of As I Lay Dying for as long as they been around.
Garza was so uncomfortable when introing the segment about the incarceration. You can tell from his beating around the bush (understandably so) and his reframing of the context surrounding the delivery. This is a human who has exceptional interpersonal skills and cares deeply for others. If he didn’t, he would have simply asked the question and not cared about the response (whether it was positively or negatively received by Tim). I have found so much respect for this podcast. God Bless garza.
Tim has the best scream in the game. I still remember playing this on full blast playing ping pong in the garage. What a legend, hope he can make it through the struggle
I don’t understand how the same people that say the prison system needs to be fixed because they don’t rehabilitate and just punish, and at the same time never forgive homie for what he did. At the end of the day nobody got hurt, steroids fucking destroy your brain chemistry, dude did his time and seems rehabilitated. Isn’t that what people are asking for in the first place?
………. Following Lambesis says more about the fans ……….jesus takes a hit every time another Christian runs his name through dirt………. But you fans will erect the altar even though he tried to have his WIFE KILLED
My idea of the band is tainted but I'm willing to look past his fuck ups even as bad as they are as long as he understand the insanity of it. Dude got on gym chemicals, had inflated ego at the time, going through mental hell in other areas. I don't know if I could have even dealt with all that myself. I judged for years, but I'm beyond the judgement. I'd shake his hand and move on and enjoy the show at this point. This is a good interview.
I used to dislike Tim strongly and etc... However, i thought this could be an opportunity to really listen for what Tim had to say about his past. And i gotta say i like his philosophy and how vulnerable he got during this podcast. Lots of good thoughts were aired and i enjoyed listening. Thanks for a insightful podcast. Need to process this thoroughly because the things they talked about can be applied to your own life. A philosophy or examples on how to live a life with love, respect, understanding and be a better you essentially. Very interesting.
When u was in middle school and as I lay dying had just released frail words collapse I emailed aild website, supposedly Tim ran the email and we would email back and forth a couple of times about life problems. Maybe it was him maybe it wasn't but me thinking it was tim really helped guide me it what I was going through at the time.
So true, speaking of different era (recording standards and techniques, etc); that's why my threshold is around 2015 now, cuz the sound's changed so much. But (!!) some recordings are out of time regardless, one of those are AILD old albums ❤ for sure, pure classics
Wow, thats just crazy Jordan and him didnt even speak to each other after he came back for the run they had up until Jordan left last summer. That is some weird shit. I mean i get you can argue Jordan was "torn about it", he wanted to still be in the band and play bc really loved it. Yet his relationship with Tim dwindled to nothing and prob was hard to be around him(clearly if you wont even talk to the guy, your not comfortable even being around him). So it kinda rubs me the wrong way really when you sit and think about it. Like Jordan was just hanging on for a paycheck and being able to once again be playing in the biggest band he's ever been in to date(which he prob thought was over). Reason why i feel this way? I personally would NOT be able to do this nor do i feel its right, its unhealthy for the band(no wonder they left). Like you wanna come back right, obviously your Willing to be on stage with the man, take pictures, write new material, video's and the whole nine. However when all the lights are out and behind the scenes, ya dont even wanna look his way or have a simple conversation? Yeaaa thats pretty shitty way of going about it. Why not be a man about it, sit down and express your feelings why its hard to talk to Tim? Instead of suppressing those feelings like a 13yr old angry little boy(no offense) and just ignore the guy. Im sure it was quite obvious why Jordan was upset/didnt want to talk to Tim, but just sitting down and talking it out coulda went a loooong way. Its not like they just met each, these two have a long history of some Very Intense highs/lows they both experienced together. The fact that he wouldnt even talk to him just rubs me the wrong way it really does. Can almost guarantee this played a part in the decision to leave, having no communication and just going to play shows then ignoring your bandmate like some robot im sure he realized wasnt going to work(and thats fine, good for him to come to that conclusion and leave/let someone else who Wants to be there for His band/bandmates). I mean i get it some dont live near it each other or even see each other until they tour, but they still all talk to each other lol. I would wanna have communication with my bandmates nonetheless. Im sorry but to completely ignore the person who put you back on and not even give them a sit down or even sometime on the phone to talk says something to me. Say what you will but Tim coulda been like "ok he doesnt wanna fw me anymore, wont even talk to me. Why should i reach out then? Maybe im better off with a diff drummer" and he didnt do this he wanted to keep it original. Ok to much ranting im done, imho it just shows Jordans reasons for being there were shady af(here comes the, "as much as he couldnt stand Tim anymore, he did it for the fans moron" comments, lol. Yess, of course. The dude wasnt struggling in a band going nowhere near AILD level and wasnt excited about getting back to making good money again or anything).
yeaaa i kinda was like 🤔🤔 when finding out he wasnt even talking to Tim when he came back, just playing shows doing the promo's and ghosting him. They do have an incredible history and it does kinda look crazy he would come back and be a part of it again, only to just ignore your frontman/friend who you absolutely went through some crazy times with. Also agreed on this is prob what lead to member(s) leaving, as communication is key and it clearly just wasnt all there. How long can that last before its like "yeaa im done".
@@erictaylor1867 Absolutely, its a tough situation bc i know Jordan and the rest of the band were REALLY pissed and hurt over Tim doing what he had done. Having said this though, you chose to accept to come back and be apart of all the things that come with being in a band at this level. Why couldnt you sit down and just get it all out? Tell the man/Tim face to face how you feel and maybe just maybe he would after talking with him let the angst go, and understand Tim put himself in a dark place(but now was digging himself out and looking for a friend/bandmate to continue the path they were once on). I mean the worlds a crazy place and it coulda happened to anyone, what if it was reversed and Jordan was the one who fucked up? You cant go on life thinking "oh no way would i ever stoop to that crazy level". Do drug addicts choose that life?(one can argue yes, but thats not true. NO one says "im gonna grow up to be an addict" these things happen over time and are related to underlying issues mostly). No ones life is scripted and already played out written for them. Anything can happen and just bc it didnt happen to you doesnt mean it wont or couldnt.
Tim is highly intelligent and thoughtful. Would like to hear him talk more about philosophy. Not afraid to ask the hard questions. This was a great podcast. Thank you!
@@Alfredo78666 Let's hold you accountable for the things you say/do to people during your lowest point, then see if you're man enough to own and try to rectify your mistakes.
Definitely hit a spot when talking about insurance not covering therapy. That is needed now more than ever in society, and it should not be limited to just “10 visits, then it is on you until next year.” A lot of people really need it. These aren’t bad people, they just need some help from therapists to find out why they do things and how to be able to function properly. I am grateful for therapy, and not ashamed to admit I go. Also, first episode I came upon, you got a new fan! Thanks to you and Tim for taking the time and putting this out🤘🏻😈🤘🏻
Love your podcast dude. This was a great episode. Didn't really know how to feel about Tim moving on with AILD and all that, but your guys conversation really helped me to figure out my feelings about it... if that makes sense. Keep up the good work Garza!
He’s lucky he was caught his ex wife could have been killed, kids without parents and his life consisting living prison for the rest of his life. I’m surprised he was able to continue his music career people have done way less and loose their music career. Hopefully he never does anything bad again.
I’ll throw in a completely unrelated comment; specifically about Chris’ sponsors: EMG pickups are absolutely my favorite pickups as well. I played the 81/85 combo on my old Dean, and I loved them. I hot-rodded my Schecter C1+ with the EMG JH set, and holy shit, that thing turned into a fire breathing beast. #emgpickups are my choice!
Unless he finds all new band members or he starts a new band.. they aren't coming back. I don't know if you kept up with the news. Josh left. Nick left. Jordan left.
Came for Tim but ended up learning more about Phil 😂 I didn’t know he was the primary guitar player in the band who actually chose to stay out of the spotlight to allow Nick to play the leads instead. 🤯
The real crime was the sentence. In a country where people get death sentences, to be out of jail after a few years after trying to kill your wife is beyond believable.
Dude such a Rad episode. I never forget the first time I met Tim, I walked up to a studio I was practicing and living in and he was sweeping the driveway. This was right before an ocean between us dropped and it hit me how humble he was. Good shit man
I love you Tim, I’m glad your back, and I’m sorry for the hurt that your carrying, everyone makes mistakes, but a slim amount recognizes it and makes the effort to change. I hope to meet you some day and give you a huge hug my friend and pit like never before. Thanks for this podcast, it was needed
@@RonDonValante only in the sense that Dahmer had delusional fans that wrote to him, accepting him for who he is. This guy probably was one of the people that wrote to him
Great Interview. I think it's time for Tim to finally bury the bad times and memory hole all that stuff. I got to catch AILD in Tucson a while back when this latest tour began and they were great. Good times ahead. Very interested to see what new material AILD decides to put out with the new line-up and even Tim's side projects.
REALLY good interview so HUGE thanks for bringing us is, but if i can... The camera work... it needs.. hmm work. It moving back/forth/in/out like that was a tad distracting. If possible 3 set angles would be nice 1: Chris. 2: Tim. 3: Wide.
Tim should be a spokesperson for people to heal and he’s real. Love this guy. Thanks for this providing a platform. I’m listening to AILD again big time
This is so cool to hear grown men getting vulnerable and being so open about deep issues. Real life problems and solutions right here. I’ve sent this podcast to a few people that can relate who are in the music industry
My new favorite podcast for sure. You just let the guests speak and be themselves, very refreshing thank you
Garza's comment about being unlovable hit home for me...I'm not the person I used to be and it's hard to get back to a good mindset again to be someone worthy of being loved. I'm surprised my wife hasn't left me already. Sadly I don't know how to change it on my own so perhaps therapy is the solution.
If you get the right therapist you'll be kicking yourself in the ass for not doing it sooner. Make the call.
@@thekraken4886 that’s the problem tho. Finding the right therapist
@@thekraken4886 for fucking real the hardest decisions will CHANGE YOUR LIFE and you shouldn’t dwell on it, don’t give yourself an opportunity to wish you did it earlier get it done
I'm so lucky I don't care what people think
you’ll get there homie. keep pushing.
My first metal show was seeing As I Lay Dying (they opened), Chimaira, In Flames, & Killswitch on the End of Heartache tour in 2004. One of the best shows of my life.
Oh Lordy Lordy. What a time to be a fan
I saw this show also in Phx, AZ but it was far from my first. My first was 10 years earlier. Im old lol. I first saw In Flames in 2000 twice. They were my fave band from 1997-2002
@@pleasuretokill It's hard for me to remember if that was indeed my first metal show or not. I really think it was. But I also remember seeing Static-X a handful of times back in the early 2000s so it's a bit skewed. The Freddy vs Jason Soundtrack was my introduction to just about every band on that bill strangely enough and SO many of my favorite bands still to this day. Killswitch Engage with Howard's first contribution with the band "When Darkness Falls". In Flames' "Trigger" was the first song by them I'd ever heard. Chimaira's "Army of Me". Great soundtrack, great bands, great show.
Hell yeah dude. First show was ever green terrace, misery signals, august burns red and as I lay dying. Unmatched energy.
One of the best shows of your life .....I hope there comes a day you'll think back & laugh at that statement.
I’ve seen firsthand that Tim is the real deal. We have a mutual friend that is an insane drummer, awesome father, but spiraled back into drug addiction when his ex used our disgusting system to rip his daughter away from him. Tim was right there, right away, sending him care packages and providing support. From what I’ve seen, he’s the real deal.
except for the whole hiring a hitman thing
Nice comment, Tim.🙄
I have some pretty massive respect for this man after watching this. I feel his regret is genuine. With him not being afraid to talk about it. Even after all these years as transparently and honestly as he can shows this. The respect he shows for his former band mates even though they can't put what he did behind them. I hope everything works out for all of them.
Because it's disgusting. If you knew him personally and tried to have one of your sisters killed you think you'd be up to forgiving him yet or is just cause he is like a D level metal celebrity?
@@xkmmx2132 with people like you that are filled with hate and don't know the word ''forgive'' you only would make the things worse, everyone messes up and i'm not defending him but if somebody actually makes the effort to be a better person why not forgive him and gave him a second chance? i think the only one disgusting here is you, you can't always condemn people and not having the intelligence and compassion to forgive if it's necessary you gonna live a sad life living with that resentment and moral superiority
@xkmmx2132 not even a relevant question. They are free to not forgive him. We just gotta forgive him enough to enjoy his music. Not that it's even our place not being at all involved in the sitation to offer forgiveness - he didn't do anything to us.
@@dawa8151just because you're to slow to get it doesn't mean it's not valid. He is a stain.
@@dustyw I'll keep humming that tune too. Tim doesn't deserve to live it down. He deserves to be in prison...
2 years for attempted murder of your life partner is an absolute joke. And so are the people that d ride Tim
Props to Tim for taking accountability and being open about his whole situation. To be fair, I don’t think people necessarily hate him. I believe they’re just hurt and disappointed for what he did.
I recently started listening to Born Through Fire but questioned some of the lyrics. I thought he was being prideful about his rise out of the ashes. After listening to this, I was wrong. Tim is a humble man and is on a journey navigating through the pain to restoration. God is still doing a work in you Tim. Praying for you brother.
As i lay dying is the BEST metalcore band EVER ! ( i just want to say that, lol ) !!!
YES!!!
Close 2nd is Killswitch Engage.
The rest of the bands are distant 3rd
@@Necrologymetal i agree
You're wrong, but okay.
I can respect the fact that he’s honest and seems to have been since
Tim is a solid dude. He’s unique in a way that really interests me. I want to listen to him talk when I get a chance.
He doesn’t let anything get in the way of his goals and is always so positive and caring. It’s still hard to comprehend what he did. But.. I understand domestic stuff with kids involved gets icky.
Gets icky? What a push over attitude 🤦
Thumbnail looks like a gym add BEFORE and AFTER
Great epi!
Had to no idea working out makes you a foot taller 😂
You got to hit that gym & find out!
Chris is going to be the joe rogan of metal!!!
Chris is not an entitled asshole
@@gasmaskestore8018 Neither is Joe lol
@@gasmaskestore8018 chris?
@@gasmaskestore8018 who is Chris?
@@delsi3795 LMAO
Mad props to both Chris & Tim for having these amazing conversations for the fans. I know a lot of this wouldn’t of been the easiest to talk about.
He hit the nail on the head at 1:01:07. Healing takes a lot of years. It does get better. Don't ever give up. Ever.
Real talk, dude. You’ve gotta be patient. You’ve gotta be consistent.
As I lay dying is the single most important band to get me into metal as a teenager. The sound was tighter than most local bands and the riffs were easy to learn. My old band covered Forever so many times live.
I definitely agree with this
All excuses from him. You gotta be pretty evil to do what he did.
Hearing him talk about Jesus makes me want to throw up. People are gullible and he's relying on that to get back out there.
Fact is if any of that ish is real he's got a first class ticket to hell waiting for him.
Man I just started listening to this podcast and I gotta say, Garza is a FANTASTIC interviewer. Really down to earth guy who wants to understand. Much props to him.
Some people in the comments really vomiting all their hate and negativity. It’s fine to not support the dude, but he HAS to move on with his life. So should you
Moving on with his life does not mean welcoming him back in the metal scene with open arms. This is embarrassing.
Spewing hate, about a person who tried to kill somebody? Seems pretty valid. Great, he did his jail time, but that doesn't mean people are supposed to forget and forgive that that's who he is as a person. You want to listen to his music? Feel free, but you're listening to and putting money in the pocket of this guy.
@@davisonsarai7763 your comment is valid and written in a mature way - I’m literally referring to hate comments, insults etc. Hate is never a positive thing, by definition.
@@davisonsarai7763 putting money into the pocket of someone who was successfully rehabilitated? Oh the horror! Get off your high horse. In the eyes of the law, he is time served and cleared AND he has turned his whole life around because he was successfully rehabilitated. This is the best possible outcome and you’re still not satisfied? Get over yourself.
@@PigglyWigglyDeluxe no that's my point, I'm never going to be satisfied. I don't need to get over myself. And I don't care about the law, I don't need the lot to tell me that a person is immoral. I'm glad he's not murdering people anymore, that's fantastic news. That's a really high bar he's stepping over, not trying to kill people anymore. Have a good time.
This interview answered all of my unanswered questions about AILD and what happened and why with the band. Good job. 👍
Tim, re-record vocals and remix Shadows Are Security as a special release! ABR does this!
I’d like that as a fan, but his vocals are the same to me like good to go. Just me though
What a fucking great idea
Tim’s vocals are not very great now. I feel like his vocals peaked on Awakened.
Don’t fix what’s not broken. That album is perfect
@@alee7275 instrumentally, yes. But the mix/master sounds dated and you can’t understand a single word Tim is saying. My vocal annunciation is a thousand times better than Tim’s and he had been screaming for 2 years longer than I currently have.
Didn’t this guy try and have his wife killed???? Bro eff this man forever
Yeah he did … pretty fucked up. Hopefully he has changed and feels bad about it
@@CognitomanFeels bad? He is just spewing what he's been told to spew by his PR team. Jesus? You think he's really embraced that crap? No. It's just his best shot at improving his public relations.
Metal heads for the most part are solid. But there's a bunch of push overs that buy his pathetic sympathy trip. They even feel bad for him as if he was the one that had a hit put out on him by his life partner.
It's painful to see
I mean, Idc lol. Dude tried to kill his wife. The fact that y'all look past that because he can scream moderately well is unfathomable to me. Far better vocalists out there who didn't try to kill a mother lmao 1:01:00 he talks about how hard it is returning back to society after prison, like yeah buster, the whole point is to motivate you NOT to go to prison. Wish criminals would think about that before complaining
I honestly don't see all the hate towards Tim. The man made a mistake and moved on with his life and clearly made himself into a better person. AILD was single handedly the band that cemented the metal core legacy for me early on.
This was a killer episode!
LOL. Great choice of words haha
Cute. but he didn't kill his wife. Soliciting of attempted murder. But still funny nonetheless I suppose
@@katerinavialpando3620 crazy that you're trying to down play him trying to have his WIFE murdered.
@@YungGrandson not really. I'm just saying the joke would have stuck more if he had succeeded. Not saying that I wish that happened. I'm just saying the joke doesn't exactly work in this case. Or "Pun" I should say
@@YungGrandson in actuality, I was shocked and disappointed in Tim when the news of that broke out. He was one of my musical heroes in high school. Yeah, his ex wife was a nasty, scheming bitch but having her taken out isn't the way at all. He should have played the long game and exposed her for who she truly is instead of essentially making a martyr out of her, which only helps her own agenda further. But he was also roided the fuck out and being an overaggressive idiot who clearly wasn't thinking rationally
You should do an interview with CJ McMahon from Thy Art Is Murder. That would be some great content. Or even Alex Terrible would be a good episode also.
This was a captivating piece in itself. Digging the channel
I would love to see CJ
Alex Terrible, I'd love to know why he got a fake scar on his face
This was a 10/10 podcast man.
I understand people may not like Tim and probably never will. However I think it also shows what kind of people we are if we aren't willing to give someone else a second chance. The man has done his time, has made an effort to help others not go down the same path. You don't have to like the man Tim was, but hopefully one day you can like the man he became.
I just don't see the point in constantly bringing up someone's lowest moment over and over again as if these fans were victims themselves. Why not appreciate that someone who's done prison time and is striving to make amendments and help others, instead of constantly shitting on them?
I hope people like Tim can help inspire other inmates to do the same and find a cause after prison. Cause our system won't.
didnt he try to have his wife murdered?
@@jamesross9724 Yep, but luckily nobody was harmed. He paid his time in prison, and has been working on being a new man. You dont have to like him, but some of us show empathy for someone who has wronged, and is on the right path of life.
He made amends with his ex wife, his band mates and he paid his dues. Why not show compassion to someone who is trying to be a better human being and helping others not do the same thing.
He ain't honorable. He attempted murder. He got caught, and frankly, got off light. He's nothing to admire. Real men don't hurt women, much less try to murder them. He's a pussy, who's earned tits to match.
@@anthonyfrombelowYou are posting a ton of reply comments on this video to everyone who shows even the smallest amount of support for Tim. Don't you have a life to live? Why not just ignore Tim, and pretend he doesn't exist if it offends you so much that people are willing to give him a second chance? Just because people support Tim doesn't mean they don't condone his heinous crime of solicitation to murder his ex-wife. You can be judged for past mistakes, learn, and try to become a better person. Not everyone who does wrong will, but I have witnessed said positive change in my own family as I had someone go through something similar. It took me a long time to accept what my family member did, but eventually I was able to learn acceptance, and spread love. It just takes maturity to understand that everyone makes mistakes some of them more serious than other's. Some of them unforgivable. I personally don't forgive Tim's prior actions, but I do believe that he has made a consistent attempt to change for the better.
I hope that you never do anything that hurts another person physically, mentally, or spiritually because you obviously lack compassion or any ounce of forgiveness regardless of context, reason, or logic. So it wouldn't be paid forward on your end.
my heart aches, u must have felt so alone bro when u paid the undercover cop 5k to kill your wife bro ;(
I can't believe I just found this podcast less than a week ago. Been a fan since the first album made waves on the east coast. I love this shit man tons of great interviews and dudes just chilling. Much love and support for this to get bigger. To quote from the ricky hoover podcast "no more positivity keep it negative" lmfao 🤘🏻 keep killing it dude
Dude for real just casually mentions how "he was single for a bit and interested in dating" when he tried to off his old lady lol. Like it's just another random thing that happened and it's no biggie. Just weird to me.
He’s sociopathic
you should interview his ex-wife, i bet she has some interesting stories.
That's the interview that needs to be had, not his felon ass.
52:18 What Tim's saying here rings so true. I've been to prison for theft to feed a drug addiction, twice. Please, think before you act... 5 seconds could cost you 5 years of your life, or worse... Much love everyone 💜
One of the most underrated podcasts. Can’t wait to see this shit blow up!
Pretty touching interview. Mad props to Tim being so earnest and upright, definitely changed my opinions about him after he laid it out from his perspective.
Awakened is definitely my favorite album of theirs! So good!
Oh shit. After watching this I enjoyed the podcast. Like some of the recent songs and I hope this guy continues to be better.
Holy shit! Tim just made me cry! I felt that!!!
I'm checking out Falling Cycle now, man that band is awesome. I'm surprised I never checked it out before. Definitely early AILD vibes.
oooooh my god I'm so glad for this comment lol they sound hella oldschool!!!!!!! I LOVE IT!!!!
Everyone was cop’n that At the Gates vibe back then, but FC were one of the better more obscure ones to do it
Just looked them up, found an Album, not a single skip on it!
Loved that they got into trauma and the debate of therapy cost & accessibility. I appreciate their vulnerability and want to echo the encouragement to go balls deep into your healing.
This whole episode made me a little teary eyed and nostalgic, and i wanted to hug you both haha
Dude, let me tell you guys a interesting story here, so when they came to my country Taiwan in 2013 I had the live DVD that I was going to get them signed but failed, I was so disappointed, right after they finished the show and got back to US Tim got arrested, and the rest is history.
Fast forward to early 2020 before the pandemic hit they did the “reunion” tour in Asia and came to my country Taiwan again, I was beyond excited, the show promoter is my good friend so I got a chance to interview Tim in person, they’re all half joking about Tim saying that he’s a big guy and scary by the things he did, but we sat down and had a great conversation about 20 mins and he is polite and friendly, then I finally got the DVD along with 3 LP records signed by the full members, plus I was also the drum tech for Jordan on that show, I kinda feel that the line up wasn’t going to last long so I grab the chance to get all my stuff signed, I have picture to prove on my Instagram if you scroll down to that time.
Anyway AILD will forever be one of my biggest influences and favorite bands since I discovered them in my high school years, that’s pre TH-cam age, I went to yahoo music and click on metal/rock genre to see the chart almost everyday, that’s how I found Through Struggle MV and got into the band, thanks for the memory guys, love from Taiwan 🇹🇼
So, i was thinking - you want to say, that it's in some way ever better for Tim to get the whole new aild line up, of a better musicians and personas to keep the machine called as i lay dying go on?
This story is completely irrelevant
@@Angelthetallguy that's what i thought for a second when I first read it
@@Angelthetallguy but why did you thought back then that this line up wouldn't last for a long time? Let's throw out pandemic
@@Angelthetallguy I didn’t ask for your approval though
As a fan this has been a healing interview for myself as well. I didn't know about the video the guys uploaded talking about how they felt and what they've been through and I looked it up because of this interview. When I first saw Tim's name on this episode I was like WTF!? Why are people giving this MF a platform? I was legit never going to forgive Tim and never listen to his music again...but I've found myself listening to their new material and connecting with it. Thank you for this.
amazing interview Garza, your for sure not scared to ask deep cutting question, salute 🫡
I like what Tim says about incarceration not being anything therapeutic and it needs to be talked about because if you send someone to prison for 3 or 10 or 20 years even, that person will get out at some point so what has the prison process as a whole done during that time to correct and rehabilitate that persons behavior? Sounds like next to nothing as I don't think fear of going back is enough sometimes (as Tim also stated in reference to gang members)
👏🏻 Couldn’t have said it any better. Our system and the culture of America is to only punish. Problem is, punishing someone doesn’t fix the issue and doesn’t teach them the skills they need to be a better person in society. In fact, for most people it only makes it worse. Without interventions that focus to correct the core issues, it’s just a vicious cycle that can’t be broken. You can hate the crime the person did, have compete disapproval of that person’s choices, but still be a fan of wanting to see them change and grow into someone who helps rather than hurts people.
@@anoceanbetweenus89 people don’t want to fix the issues. It’s easier for most people to kick the problems under the rug and continue to hate others for their mistakes.
Easy to 'forgive and forget' when it's not someone close to you he tried to have killed, though.
Hopefully he has changed
@@CognitomanHow much does anyone really change from something like that ...?
The metal community is just full of push overs
@@idorion9096 people can change. I’m not saying he’s changed or not. I’m just saying it’s possible
@@Cognitoman if he changed then why is he clearly back on the roids which he blames for his sins?
You can't just blame a drug then willingly go get hooked on the stuff again. If he really blames the roids then he should have gone through rehab to stay off them.
@@Cognitoman It is absolutely possible though. I do agree. But I'm just not buying it for a second with Tim.
Awesome conversation thank you guys, praying for both of you! Thank you for the conversation loved it
Tim has continued to own up to what he did.. it's not like he came back denying it and saying fuck every one
Exactly unlike other people who still have bands after not owning up to their shit.
Arms bigger than the table legs 💪
This was a great conversation, props to both Chris and Tim for bringing a lot of deep topics to the light and letting the fans of Tim and AILD have some clarity.
Great interview, love the respect and feedback Garza gives❤️ it’s a touchy subject, but I believe in 2nd chances as well. AILD will forever be my favorite band, rooting for ya Tim stay strong!🙏🏻💪🏼🤘🏼🔥
1:15:12...It isn't about the rest of civilization wanting you to witness trauma or participate in new trauma; it is about you accepting your punishment for a crime you committed. You were willing to pay to have your wife killed. I don't give a fuck if you have 'bad memories' of prison. Good. I'm glad that you don't get to see your children anymore. Not because it hurts you but because it relieves them of the tension of having to be around you. If you say you are willing to create a new life and rehabilitate outside of prison, more power to you. But this belief that prison is meant for rehabilitation is asinine. You are being punished. Your freedom is taken away. Your rehabilitation falls 100% at your feet and what you decide to do with it revolves entirely with your own decision making.
Blablabla.. spew your hate elsewhere Nancy. Grow a pair, go outside, touch some grass, talk with a woman for once! Instead of doing that, you're whining in the TH-cam comments section 😄🤦♂️
Its ok to feel however you feel about Tim's past decisions. But I will say, Garza having Tim on is deathcore af! 🤘🏽💪🏽
no it ain't he was gonna pay someone to murder his wife or some shit that's pussy shit
@@prepperandson1399 i don't like what he did i agree wit you on that 100%. But Garza seems like a good dude who had good intentions doing this interview. Not to glorify Tim but just talk about his journey.
@@robowop9354 hell yeah I dig garze but that piece of garbage should still be in prison
Not afraid to go there and keeping it real AF. Only you can do it Garza. 🤘
Tim bro people don’t hate you for what you did. They hate you for how you did it.
If a partner neglects you from seeing and spending time with your kids you don’t hire a hitman to take her out. You do the job yourself bro
Thanks Chris and Tim for this really awesome listen.
Chris, I'd love to see Alex the Terrible on the show if possible. I know he's worked on his English a lot and given what's happening in Russia/Ukraine, I'd love to hear from him. I'm hoping to see Slaughter to Prevail next month.
So blind to his own ego....
Great conversation. Honestly didn't expect it to be this good, but was pleasantly surprised. Thank you Chris and thank you Tim.
😈🔥🔥another great podcast
Praise to Tim for being so vulnerable & open
For sure, but it’s okay to not see past what he did. Everyone can be forgiving, some of us don’t have to. The comment section is so understanding and it can be somewhat unnerving to read. The commitment to the artist so much that whatever happened is permissible. Fair enough…two ways to look at this.
@@elcaminocarcrsh don’t ever listen to or support him again if you feel that way. It’s your right.
@@hast0408 🤣🤣 Did you really think they needed YOU to tell them that?? What a goofy comment!
@@Jayson-tt3qo the 15 upvotes suggest otherwise. Side note - work on your grammar.
@@hast0408 LOL Imagine thinking 15 upvotes is something substantial...
PLEASE redo the vocals on shadows are security... it would sound SO sick with how developed your vocals have become.
@Mezzy Mez Sometimes you’re exactly right… but Tim vocals have gotten a slightly deeper tone to them now, and after listening to their latest live version of Confined I’m convinced that re-recording Shadows are Security would be epic!
Yep I'm not missing this one, just wating on my pizza to start
The crossover thing is the fact you can understand what he says when he screams
Damn I never thought I would see Tim fall apart. Kudos to him for genuinely trying to change. And fuck the haters man. What he did was not okay and nobody should ever do. But you can tell he feels bad about it. And is trying to change.
This is a real bold interview - respect to Chris Garza
I cried listening to Tim talk about his struggles as a father and his feelings of isolation. Thank you for having him on the pod. Been a fan of As I Lay Dying for as long as they been around.
Garza was so uncomfortable when introing the segment about the incarceration. You can tell from his beating around the bush (understandably so) and his reframing of the context surrounding the delivery. This is a human who has exceptional interpersonal skills and cares deeply for others. If he didn’t, he would have simply asked the question and not cared about the response (whether it was positively or negatively received by Tim).
I have found so much respect for this podcast. God Bless garza.
Tim has the best scream in the game. I still remember playing this on full blast playing ping pong in the garage. What a legend, hope he can make it through the struggle
I don’t understand how the same people that say the prison system needs to be fixed because they don’t rehabilitate and just punish, and at the same time never forgive homie for what he did. At the end of the day nobody got hurt, steroids fucking destroy your brain chemistry, dude did his time and seems rehabilitated. Isn’t that what people are asking for in the first place?
………. Following Lambesis says more about the fans
……….jesus takes a hit every time another Christian runs his name through dirt………. But you fans will erect the altar even though he tried to have his
WIFE KILLED
Keep crying about it for the next few decades
My idea of the band is tainted but I'm willing to look past his fuck ups even as bad as they are as long as he understand the insanity of it. Dude got on gym chemicals, had inflated ego at the time, going through mental hell in other areas. I don't know if I could have even dealt with all that myself. I judged for years, but I'm beyond the judgement. I'd shake his hand and move on and enjoy the show at this point. This is a good interview.
I saw Josh play for Spiritbox on wed in Portland, god dam, it was fucking amazing. Such a good show.
Tim wouldn't be able to return a shirt cause he keeps cutting the sleeves off them
Tim is very well spoken
I used to dislike Tim strongly and etc... However, i thought this could be an opportunity to really listen for what Tim had to say about his past. And i gotta say i like his philosophy and how vulnerable he got during this podcast. Lots of good thoughts were aired and i enjoyed listening. Thanks for a insightful podcast. Need to process this thoroughly because the things they talked about can be applied to your own life. A philosophy or examples on how to live a life with love, respect, understanding and be a better you essentially. Very interesting.
Still remember the first time I heard 94 hours
When u was in middle school and as I lay dying had just released frail words collapse I emailed aild website, supposedly Tim ran the email and we would email back and forth a couple of times about life problems. Maybe it was him maybe it wasn't but me thinking it was tim really helped guide me it what I was going through at the time.
So true, speaking of different era (recording standards and techniques, etc); that's why my threshold is around 2015 now, cuz the sound's changed so much. But (!!) some recordings are out of time regardless, one of those are AILD old albums ❤ for sure, pure classics
Wow, thats just crazy Jordan and him didnt even speak to each other after he came back for the run they had up until Jordan left last summer. That is some weird shit. I mean i get you can argue Jordan was "torn about it", he wanted to still be in the band and play bc really loved it. Yet his relationship with Tim dwindled to nothing and prob was hard to be around him(clearly if you wont even talk to the guy, your not comfortable even being around him). So it kinda rubs me the wrong way really when you sit and think about it. Like Jordan was just hanging on for a paycheck and being able to once again be playing in the biggest band he's ever been in to date(which he prob thought was over). Reason why i feel this way? I personally would NOT be able to do this nor do i feel its right, its unhealthy for the band(no wonder they left). Like you wanna come back right, obviously your Willing to be on stage with the man, take pictures, write new material, video's and the whole nine. However when all the lights are out and behind the scenes, ya dont even wanna look his way or have a simple conversation? Yeaaa thats pretty shitty way of going about it. Why not be a man about it, sit down and express your feelings why its hard to talk to Tim? Instead of suppressing those feelings like a 13yr old angry little boy(no offense) and just ignore the guy. Im sure it was quite obvious why Jordan was upset/didnt want to talk to Tim, but just sitting down and talking it out coulda went a loooong way. Its not like they just met each, these two have a long history of some Very Intense highs/lows they both experienced together. The fact that he wouldnt even talk to him just rubs me the wrong way it really does. Can almost guarantee this played a part in the decision to leave, having no communication and just going to play shows then ignoring your bandmate like some robot im sure he realized wasnt going to work(and thats fine, good for him to come to that conclusion and leave/let someone else who Wants to be there for His band/bandmates). I mean i get it some dont live near it each other or even see each other until they tour, but they still all talk to each other lol. I would wanna have communication with my bandmates nonetheless. Im sorry but to completely ignore the person who put you back on and not even give them a sit down or even sometime on the phone to talk says something to me. Say what you will but Tim coulda been like "ok he doesnt wanna fw me anymore, wont even talk to me. Why should i reach out then? Maybe im better off with a diff drummer" and he didnt do this he wanted to keep it original. Ok to much ranting im done, imho it just shows Jordans reasons for being there were shady af(here comes the, "as much as he couldnt stand Tim anymore, he did it for the fans moron" comments, lol. Yess, of course. The dude wasnt struggling in a band going nowhere near AILD level and wasnt excited about getting back to making good money again or anything).
yeaaa i kinda was like 🤔🤔 when finding out he wasnt even talking to Tim when he came back, just playing shows doing the promo's and ghosting him. They do have an incredible history and it does kinda look crazy he would come back and be a part of it again, only to just ignore your frontman/friend who you absolutely went through some crazy times with. Also agreed on this is prob what lead to member(s) leaving, as communication is key and it clearly just wasnt all there. How long can that last before its like "yeaa im done".
@@erictaylor1867 Absolutely, its a tough situation bc i know Jordan and the rest of the band were REALLY pissed and hurt over Tim doing what he had done. Having said this though, you chose to accept to come back and be apart of all the things that come with being in a band at this level. Why couldnt you sit down and just get it all out? Tell the man/Tim face to face how you feel and maybe just maybe he would after talking with him let the angst go, and understand Tim put himself in a dark place(but now was digging himself out and looking for a friend/bandmate to continue the path they were once on). I mean the worlds a crazy place and it coulda happened to anyone, what if it was reversed and Jordan was the one who fucked up? You cant go on life thinking "oh no way would i ever stoop to that crazy level". Do drug addicts choose that life?(one can argue yes, but thats not true. NO one says "im gonna grow up to be an addict" these things happen over time and are related to underlying issues mostly). No ones life is scripted and already played out written for them. Anything can happen and just bc it didnt happen to you doesnt mean it wont or couldnt.
Great interview. Much respect.
Tim is highly intelligent and thoughtful. Would like to hear him talk more about philosophy.
Not afraid to ask the hard questions. This was a great podcast. Thank you!
Yeah, and also mysoginistic homicidal, great soul
@@Alfredo78666 he served his time and paid his debt to society and learned him his mistakes and changed his ways. Is that not good enough for you?
@@Alfredo78666 Let's hold you accountable for the things you say/do to people during your lowest point, then see if you're man enough to own and try to rectify your mistakes.
@@derivinity THATS FINE WITH ME BECAUSE IVE NEVER TRIED TO KILL SOMEBODY LOL. NICE TRY THO
@@MRPERFECT_79 Aww that's okay sweaty, I forgive you :)
Definitely hit a spot when talking about insurance not covering therapy. That is needed now more than ever in society, and it should not be limited to just “10 visits, then it is on you until next year.” A lot of people really need it. These aren’t bad people, they just need some help from therapists to find out why they do things and how to be able to function properly. I am grateful for therapy, and not ashamed to admit I go. Also, first episode I came upon, you got a new fan! Thanks to you and Tim for taking the time and putting this out🤘🏻😈🤘🏻
Love your podcast dude. This was a great episode.
Didn't really know how to feel about Tim moving on with AILD and all that, but your guys conversation really helped me to figure out my feelings about it... if that makes sense.
Keep up the good work Garza!
Dudes a great musician, women get away with way too much and most males now days are females, fuck 'em...rock on🤘
He’s lucky he was caught his ex wife could have been killed, kids without parents and his life consisting living prison for the rest of his life. I’m surprised he was able to continue his music career people have done way less and loose their music career. Hopefully he never does anything bad again.
I agree it’s sick
Absolutely fantastic pod cast. Thank you for bringing Tim on to throughly talk about everything we’ve all wondered for years.
I’ll throw in a completely unrelated comment; specifically about Chris’ sponsors: EMG pickups are absolutely my favorite pickups as well. I played the 81/85 combo on my old Dean, and I loved them. I hot-rodded my Schecter C1+ with the EMG JH set, and holy shit, that thing turned into a fire breathing beast. #emgpickups are my choice!
This band introduced me to metalcore scenes🤘🤘🤘🤘.....
Shaped by fire is a sick record and a personal fave of mine...I'm so stoked to see what aild comes out with next
its gonna be killer af, with Ken writing with Phil...omg, harmonies, dual solos...heavy breaks....I can't wait
@@thecrimsonweasel1973 idk honestly, but I feel like ken will be in AILD.....sooner than later.
Unless he finds all new band members or he starts a new band.. they aren't coming back. I don't know if you kept up with the news. Josh left. Nick left. Jordan left.
@@RelentlessOhiox He did find new members and the new album should arrive this year
@@superstan3290 burden is such a great solo, pumped for next record
Chris, I saw Suicide Silence for the first time on sounds of the underground 2007 with Unearth, Darkest Hour. Poughkeepsie NY what an awesome show!
Triple Brutal is one of the best albums ever.
best production also.
Came for Tim but ended up learning more about Phil 😂 I didn’t know he was the primary guitar player in the band who actually chose to stay out of the spotlight to allow Nick to play the leads instead. 🤯
That was a big surprise for me too
The real crime was the sentence. In a country where people get death sentences, to be out of jail after a few years after trying to kill your wife is beyond believable.
Dude such a Rad episode. I never forget the first time I met Tim, I walked up to a studio I was practicing and living in and he was sweeping the driveway. This was right before an ocean between us dropped and it hit me how humble he was. Good shit man
He tried to pay someone to kill his wife lol.
How is that humble
woooow he swept his driveway?! how humble! what an incredible human being!
@@wildxsevenpeople don't typically do cleaning and maintenance of the studio they're renting.
@@TheGoldenCapstone ahh in that case then what an absolute fucking hero. forget tryna murder his wife 🤟🤟🤟🤟
First time watching this podcast, easily the heaviest podcast out there hell yeah, Garza becoming a much better podcaster right on
I’m glad I grew up on these metalcore years KSE, AILD Unearth etc. so many good songs
I love you Tim, I’m glad your back, and I’m sorry for the hurt that your carrying, everyone makes mistakes, but a slim amount recognizes it and makes the effort to change. I hope to meet you some day and give you a huge hug my friend and pit like never before. Thanks for this podcast, it was needed
Did you write to Dahmer?
@@dougleydorite Are you comparing Tim to Dahmer lol??? Pretty LARGE stretch there bud.
@@RonDonValante only in the sense that Dahmer had delusional fans that wrote to him, accepting him for who he is. This guy probably was one of the people that wrote to him
Trying to pay someone to kill your wife isn't a mistake everyone makes lol.
@@theflipper404 mannnn move tf on already lol shit is so old now
Great Interview. I think it's time for Tim to finally bury the bad times and memory hole all that stuff. I got to catch AILD in Tucson a while back when this latest tour began and they were great. Good times ahead. Very interested to see what new material AILD decides to put out with the new line-up and even Tim's side projects.
REALLY good interview so HUGE thanks for bringing us is, but if i can... The camera work... it needs.. hmm work. It moving back/forth/in/out like that was a tad distracting. If possible 3 set angles would be nice 1: Chris. 2: Tim. 3: Wide.
Which band is Tim talking about when he says a band in the genre is playing arenas? Ice nine kills?