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How vintage is too vintage? | Canon FL Lenses
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2024
- Today I am taking a look at the Canon FL vintage lenses! These are from the 1960's and they have a super cool and unique image with a ton of character. Have you ever heard of these lenses?
THE LENSES
19mm f3.5 - tinyurl.com/2f...
28mm f3.5 - tinyurl.com/2y...
35mm f2.5 - tinyurl.com/um...
58mm f1.2 - tinyurl.com/bd...
85mm f1.8 - tinyurl.com/44...
135mm f2.5 - tinyurl.com/ym...
50mm f1.8 - tinyurl.com/kd...
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
01:03 The Lenses
02:06 Adapting to EF
04:27 The Look
05:44 Flares
06:34 Chromatic Aberration
07:23 Focus Breathing
08:23 Price and Availability
10:24 Final Thoughts
I love these lenses. They maybe aren’t the best for everything, but man when they’re good they’re REALLY good.
They’re also amazing as taking lenses for anamorphic adapters, especially the 55mm and the 85mm.
They really are such great lenses! Definitely not everyday lenses though
my grandpa had a set of FL lens, he game me his set so I can adapt them to my sony cinama camera for my filmmaking. he had a 35mm f 2.5, an 85 f 1.8 and the 135 mm f2.8. thies lenses look like they are brand new, like he bought them yesterday, not in the 60s. he also gave me a canon FT Ql camera in perfect condition. I am exited to create some short films using this lenses.
That’s awesome! Awesome lenses for sure
I bought the Canon FL 19mm in mint condition 3 years ago for 300,- I just looked up the prices for all of my vintage lenses 1 week ago and not gonna lie, I was happy when I saw that they are now at 1200,- (I got the deal of the century. :P) and now you make a video about this lens. good timing. :) back then I specifically wanted "single coated" lenses for those epic vintage lens flares, and they needed to be orange. did a lot of research, like... way too much. but ended up buying "single coated takumars" and "canon FL's". but again, I mainly film skateboarding, so all the typically cinema use cases don't apply to me. for example, for focal length, I pretty much only use between 50mm-300mm. and for anything wider always a fisheye. (very cliche, but a lot of fun. :) ) I have fisheye's from the 60s, 80s, 90s, 2000, 2010 and 2022. yeah,.... It's a lot of fun.:P right now my favorite prime lens is a "weltblick 135mm 1.8" (I think it also has 10 other names) and It's single coated. (for those epic slow motion shots) got it for 127,- and It has the most blur I've ever seen in my life.:P but whatever, your videos are always a pleasure to watch. :) 👍
That’s so cool! Love hearing what you use them for. $300 is a great price for the 19, that’s what I got mine for last year and it’s such a fun lens to use. That 135mm 1.8 sounds insane to use! How heavy is that thing?!?
@@calebbrunkow 820 grams, but It's really short for it's weight, so it doesn't feel too heavy in use.
I have a 50mm FL 1.8, 135 FL F3.5, 35mm FL F3.5... and definitely, they are still quite excellent, but is vintage... but not toooooo vintagey :) LOL. I did reviews on them too, and since have actually starting picking them up for shooting my pro stuff. My 35mm F3.5 is really sharp in the centre wide open, though...
That’s awesome!
definitely going to get the 58mm f1.2 soon
just need a subject with equal beauty
The 58 1.2 is amazing!
@@calebbrunkow I just got one :D
@mccallclips3771 congrats!
I have a few FDs, and I love them, but it's true they don't have the character of the FLs. I recently got my first one. An FL 55-135mm f3.5 zoom. I love it! The flares are fun. It's quite sharp from f8 - f11. I can't focus to infinity zoomed all the way out to 55mm. All the other focal lengths will work though. And zoomed all the way in to 135mm, it shows a scratch on the front element with any aperture smaller than f11. If you zoom in at all, and open up the aperture, the bokeh is beautiful, and if you move close to the subject when zoomed out, it creates great images. And like I said the flares are fun.
That is so cool! That lens looks so fun. I’ve been meaning to get one. Love to hear your experience with it
Your adapter is to long
Awesome video! Very informative. I would love to see a video for FD lenses. Keep up the good work.
Glad you enjoyed it! I’ve thought about making an FD video but there’s already so many great videos on these lenses out there that I didn’t see much of what I could add but maybe I’ll have to make one
Nice video celebrating these amazing FL lenses. I've had the 35 f2.5, 50 f1.4 and 135 f2.5 for 10 or so years now, in amazing condition and you're right they are built superbly well and all have amazing character. I use them on a FT QL and a recently purchased T90 so 2 cameras and a set of killer lenses for under £200. I also use them on Fuji X mirrorless cameras. I love them and I'm sure they will outlast me by several centuries!
Glad you enjoyed the video and love to hear how you use yours!
I also recently got the FT QL with the 50mm f1.4 FL. I am yet to try it out though!
They also make a 55mm f1.2. I have one that my grandpa bought brand new when it came out and he passed it and a 135mm down to my mom and my mom gave them to me.
The 55mm is, for all intents and purposes, basically identical to the 58mm from what I can tell. It even looks identical. But It exists as another option in that lens lineup for those interested.
Great insight! I believe the 55 has the same optical design as the later FD 55mm 1.2.
Stil have my Canon FT QL with FL lenses 50mm f1.4 -135mm f2.5 - 200mm f4.5. I also have my Canon F1 (N) with FD lenses 28mm f1.8 - 50mm f1.4 - 50mm f1.8 - 100-200mm f5.6.
That’s awesome! I’ve been wanting to add an FL 50 1.4 to this set
Just recently picked up the 58mm 1.2 and 85mm 1.8. I looked at the 28mm, but ive got a faster vintage 28mm at 2.5f, so didnt bother. Absolutely phenomenal lenses, and not super sought after either (hopefully stays that way!). Great video!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it and how do you like the 58 and 85mm lenses?
@@calebbrunkowHey mate super late response! Love the 58mm but not sold yet on the 85mm. Will have to try the 85mm on a speedbooster and see if that changes my mind. I ended up purchasing a 28mm anyway for cheap, so waiting on that to arrive.
Edit: Also blame TH-cam, I watch a decent amount of stuff and never once got notified about your reply!
Excited to hear your thoughts!
I have the Canon 55 FL-F 1.2 back in 1971 I bought my first real camera, a Canon FT-QL with that 55-F1.2 from a army PX store price 125.00$., I also have a Canon 50MMF1.8 and a Canon FD 35-105mm F3.5-4.5, I have a few NON canon lenses too, but now I use them all on my Sony A6000, which my son gifted me ( with his aps-c lenses ranged from 16mm through 55-210 mm only apsc lens I don't have is the 50mm ) and I took the Sony out today, with the 55mm on it. and a 35 and 28 in my bag.
Our son has the camera now, though I have the lens, son opted for a lighter 50 F1.4 , he takes it out weekly and now develops his own film and prints, with my near the same age photo enlarger.
About tough. this camera and lens fell out of an army truck onto the road in 1972 not a chip or dent I did have to replace the lens cap and UV filter though.
Thank you so much for sharing! So cool
I have all of the FL lenses from 28/3.5 thru 100/3.5, including a 55-135/3.5 zoom and 50/3.5 macro and FL Bellows. The only FL lens I use for my digital cameras, Canon 5D & 6D is the 50/3.5 macro and macro bellows, the others I use in my Canon FT 35mm film camera. I sold my FL 19/3.5 a few years ago after I bought a EF 20mm 2.8 USM for my Canon 5D which I use for architectural interiors. The EF 20mm/5D is a much better setup for interiors than the FL 19/3.5 & FT camera body, so even though I sold it for cheap, I do not miss it.
Sounds like you have an awesome setup of lenses!
Amazing ! I didn't know about the FL lenses (I love vintage lenses ) ! thank you for the info ! 👍
So glad you enjoyed it and got something out of it!
No lie, the FD mount is annoying. Definitely going to be doing PL mount swap when I buy my FD set. Keep the videos coming bro. They're solid and informative.
Simmod has a new lpl conversion for these lenses which seems cool and thanks dude! Really glad you enjoyed it. Any lens or lens set you would want to see next?
That's a cool set. I have a large set of the Nikkor AI-S lenses. These ones remind me a bit of the Pre-AI Nikkor series from the 60s.
Thank you and love the Nikon AIS lenses! I did a video on them a few months ago. Those older pre ai lenses seem really cool too
Very nice FL overview, thanks!
It was fun finding out you're Caleb Brunkow being Andrew Orlow myself. Hi bro! :D
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice job putting this together! Great to hear your perspective. A lot of helpful insights :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
If you like the 35 @ 2.5, think you'll like the 58 @2.8 even better. 58 mm is fascinating @ 8.0 on 4/3 for outdoors shoot, it"s like looking through a Mig super radar... Gosh, I can see every ennemy behind the curtains !
Awesome video just subscribed. Pleasure to meet a fellow vintage lens enthusiast. I also have made a few TH-cam videos about vintage glass. I just love the character of the old glass. I've collected a bunch of lenses but I find the older glass is more fun. I haven't got any FL lenses in my collection but I might have to pick one up after watching this. Cheers.
So glad you enjoyed the video! Love meeting other vintage lens enthusiasts. I’ll have to check out your videos. Hit me up on Instagram, would love to chat. Have a lot more vintage lens videos that I wanna make, just hard to find the time
I've had the 28, 35, 50, 55, 85 and the 135 and I've sold them after collecting of more than a year. I regret and start over again. Top ones: 55 and 85 but the 35 is also very very nice.
Very cool! I wonder how the 55 compares to the 58
I've not been using the 58 but the 55 doesn't have the ''notch''so it's easier to mount. And I think it will not have the grazy bokeh it's more smooth but I like it a lot. From 2.8 it starts to be unbelievable sharp. At 1.2 or 1.4 its nice and creamy @@calebbrunkow
And it's not radio active like the 58 is.
That sounds nice! May have to check that out
Actually adapting FL is not that difficult. You just need to use it's standard adapter and remove the metal pin that regulated the aperture in the lens. We have a 19mm FL so it's first hand info. I don't think the rest of the set must be that different.
Yep! That is correct, I believe the 19, 35 2.5, 58 1.2, and 135 2.5 have that mount that requires the pin to be removed
Great review. Not much said about the FL lenses. Have you compared the various mount erosions of 50mm f1.4, namely FL, FD and LTM? Would be great to see the differences!
Glad you enjoyed it! I haven’t tested those lenses specifically but I have been wanting to swap the 35mm 2.5 out with the LTM 35mm f2 and 135 2.5 out with the canomatic r 135 2.5 as the coatings match better and also want to add the canomatic r 100mm f2 for a more well rounded set
I have also wondered about the differences. I note that there are 3 types of the FL 50mm f1.4. I have the first version which I understand to have a radioactive element. I actually really like the rendering from radioactive lenses.
Love that lens! I mention that one in my video that came out yesterday as a good addition to the FL set
Fantastic video dude! You jave inspired me!!!!
So glad I could inspire you!
Question what are the brands that you used to add features to these lenses?
Like the step up ring and thicker focusing ring?
The step up rings are cheap ones from Amazon, the focus gears are 3d printed in my printer, the lens caps are cheap ones from amazon
What a great video and good advice how to adapt these lenses. I have a 50mm f1.8, never really use it but now, I just might.
Really glad you enjoyed it! Testing out that 50mm 1.8 is definitely worth it! Let me know your thoughts on it
The 50mm 1.8 has a really nice cats eye bokeh caused by pupil occlusion. Though the 1.4 is basically a full stop faster.
I have the 35 and it's absolutely beautiful on the R6! Would love to build a mini set around that lens but as you've mentioned it might be pretty tough
That’s awesome! If you stay away from the super rare lenses it shouldn’t be too hard
Even harder now !
The 19 and 85 have been super hard to find for years now
The 58 f1.2 bruh.. im sold.
The 58 is so cool huh?!?
@@calebbrunkow it’s in my cart on eBay… 😳
@LocksleyLennoxfilms nice! Make sure it’s a good one, I had to send my first one back since the focus ring was so tight
Nice video. Just learning about these lenses. I have mint condition 200m 3.5 in the fl. Why wasn't it mentioned. Just curious.
I don’t have any experience with that lens so was just mentioning the ones I have experience with
I think most of the FL lenses are radioactive, no? Looks like they have the yellow tinted thorium coating. I feel like the two biggest turnoffs for me is radioactivity and short focus throw. I feel the Canon LTM might be better for me. Long focus throw and no thorium.
Ah, you talk about the coatings at 6:00. Presuming that these lenses have thoriated glass, then they do not have yellow coating, per se. It's just the radioactivity that has turned them yellow in time. If you want to get rid of the yellow tint, put them under UV lights.
To my knowledge only the 58mm 1.2 in this set has thoriated glass and I corrected it with a uv light so it matched the rest of the set. The LTM’s are such an amazing set for sure! They’re just a bit out of my budget at the moment
I could be wrong, but regarding the 35mm... every copy I've seen has the cooler coating.
I’ve only ever seen one of them before with a warmer tint listed on eBay
Not much content on the FL's! You'll have to look into Takumars next :p - did you treat the 50mm with an LED for thorium?
Love the Takumars! Made a video on them last year. Yes I treated the 58mm with a uv light for the thorium yellow tint.
Ooooh boy. You ask me if I ever used FD Llenses? Yes I did - I guess long before you were born...
why did you chose the 58mm f1.2 FL over the 55mm f1.2 FL? thanks!
No mention of S.C. or S.S.C. coatings?
All of these lenses either have SC or whatever coating was before SC as these predate the FD’s. All are single coated optics to my knowledge
Great now I need to finish buying my set before they become exponentially more expensive because somebody decided to do a video on this😂
I appreciate it but I’m not that influential haha
Your eBay links aren’t actually links, just text, heads up!
Whoops! Thanks for the heads up, lemme fix that
I have the FL 50mm f1.8 that I bought at a charity sale for $10.00 and the FL 58mm f1.2 I bought for a little more. I use them on my Fuji cameras with a straight (not speedbooster) adapter. Both have a nice look. The 58mm can be a little soft wide open, but Topaz Sharpen AI or stopping down to f2.8 or f4.0 can fix that.
Here's a short video to test my new Fuji X-S20 and get my feet wet with Davinci Resolve. It was filmed with my Canon FD 24mm that I bought new in 1972 and the FL 58mm.
th-cam.com/video/CKg2e4hWwh4/w-d-xo.html
Very cool!
I am a m42 guy but id try them out. What adapters do you use from ef
Unfortunately you can’t easily adapt these lenses to ef. You would need to exchange the mounts.
Fire though . Love these
They’re great lenses for sure
A+
3:15 _"Bulbous?"_ The word you want here is "protruding," my man. (Or "protrusion.") An eyeball is bulbos. Also bulbous: a clown nose; a radome; or, you know... a _bulb._
Good video though, otherwise; I can't blame you for what No Child Left Behind did to your education!
Jesus dude .. this video is like designed to get us to rush the rest of em out FD Ebay
They just dont have enough character for me... :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))). Really? How is that? Are they too sharp wide open???