Thanks, I had to watch this video again. I have been using the MSR stoves for 37 years. My original whistler lite is still in working order. They are so inexpensive here in Colorado that I bought dozens in the last few years. One was 2.95 US!!! I hope your video convinces folks to ditch the disposable fuel tanks and go white gas. Thanks again, love your channel!
Those little stoves look nice and probably would get you out of a pickle but nothing beats wood and you get the great smell from wood. Thanks for sharing and for taking the time to test them all.
Always used a small propane stove and refilled the small green tanks but I really like the Mountain stove idea . Going to Amazon now to get one ,Thanks Bob !
Enjoyed the video . I also own a MSR Whisperlite international for over 20 years and probably the most versatile stove on the market today. I also have MSR PocketRocket 2 Butane stove and if I took it in cold weather camping i would have to put the canister in my jacket to warm it up before using it. If possible I will have a campfire and make use it of course, what camping is all about😊
Great info and review of these stoves. I’ll buy the Moutain stove for sure. Much more convenient out in the bush with all the different fuels it can use. Loving your Channel
Been following you for a while. This video was excellent. Havent done much winter camping but plan to. Been using propane an butane but definitely switching now. Thank you sir.
Ive spent the last 5 years cycling across Canada and the US, ive used all those types of stoves plus wood stoves and my go to stove is a MSR Dragonfly which works off of any fuel from white gas, jet fuel to desiel, i use it with gasoline which is available everywhere. Works great in the winter as well. With buyane in the winter its best to have a stove you can turn the canister upside down, the butane seperates from the propane when it gets cold.
That was a very interesting experiment. I have to admit I was impressed with that little one with the refillable gas can. I may get one of those myself, although nothing will ever fully replace the plain old wood fire for the outdoor experience. Still, a great experiment.
Your mountain stove is hands down a better system than most in cold weather bob . I have multiple types as well but not a multi fuel like yours .I switched to the Kelly kettle because of the container waste. Up until your video I didn’t know anyone who used gas in their stove , I think I will be getting one . Thanks
The gas works the best and is the best value. Similar weight. The butane stoves are a convenience thing from what I have seen. Very expensive and need really good conditions. Thanks Bob!
Pretty crafty comparing both seasons but I think for overall quick water boil you cant beat those old Kelly kettle but I would imagine you already know that. Stay safe
I use a kovea spider butane stove when its cold out. Lets you flip the cylinder over and use liquid butane instead of gas, it has a fuel warming tube like the msr gas stove. I have a camper but I still use coleman white gas stove at the campsite. Sure its a bit more finicky than propane, but where is the fun in easy :) I buy the big 16oz butane and use them to refill a few small 4oz ones. That really cuts down on the cost.
I'm on team wood fire! The only fuel that absorbs co2 and makes habitat for animals while it grows! Plus no garbage. I like the butane ones for in my SUV though, not gonna have a fire in there! I used an alcohol survival stove just like that on my 60 day bikepacking tour, for stealth camping or really hot weather when you don't want a fire. I agree they're great but they can't handle a breath of wind so I usually end up piling all my gear around it to try to protect it. My family has an acre that's half wood, we could sell the half acre to a developer but we're keeping it wooded instead and using it to supply fuel and building materials indefinitely. It's also a corridor for wildlife to the river.
I use the Uberleben twig stove and I love it. No need for fuel canisters, just use twigs/small sticks. Folds down to pack flat. Creates a small rocket stove flame. You can even grill on it.
Good comparison. I always felt white gas got a raw deal when the propane stoves became "the new go to". Here in NL propane will get you through most of what your going to do BUT like you said the environmental waste plus continued cost. So I agree anyone buying new should buy the mountain stove even if up front cost is a bit higher but you save in the long run. Ever try one of the old tobacco tin stoves? Essentially it is similar in concept to the alcohol stove. You take an old tin, like the old tobacco ones (before they were plastic) and you put a roll of toilet paper in it and fill it with brake fluid or some other similar fluid and screw the cover on (probably why they used the tobacco tin for the cover). When you need a stove you unscrew the cover and light the contents, place your pot or rack on top and cook what you need.When your done screw the lid on to smother the fire. The ones I had were not that great and burned way to much fluid but was curious if you ever tried one?
My great grandfather would have luved one of them stoves.he was a Newfoundlander from badger...he died when he pulled his canoe Ashore for a boil up.. happy Easter 🐣
I’ve used wood fire and propane in winter numerous times. I’ve thought about getting butane because I was told it’ll outdo propane in the cold. Glad I never got butane. BTW, I do refill my 1lb propane cylinders.
Good comparison, on all fronts. I was surprised how poorly the Pocket Rocket did in the cold. But, I'm old school, wood fire all year round. Time to relax and enjoy nature at her best.
Not really a fair comparison. All 5 stoves really had different qualities and are perfect for use in each's select situation. For example, I have a 2 burner Coleman propane stove. Works great at a campsite, but I use my jet boil for backpacking. Butane doesn't work well below it's boiling point of -1C or 30F. Sometimes people keep the butane canisters inside their jackets in the winter to keep them warm. For spring to fall, a butane Jet Boil is small and light and works perfectly. But in the winter, a propane or a mountain stove works best. He clearly had his mind made up before conducting the test. I would have liked him to spend the time focusing on his favorite, the mountain stove. How it works, how to use it, how to maintain it, etc. It is probably the best all around outdoor stove of the bunch. Good video, though. I enjoy the channel. And he is absolutely spot on - PACK OUT THOSE EMPTY CONTAINERS!!!!!
Hello again and thanks for the stove comparisons. Beautiful country and a great life style your living. I meant to comment on your previous video but didn't get a chance. Has a newfie living out of the province e I must say I never tried pork buns but after watching your video, I m diffently going to give it a try, they look delicious. Also great work on the cabin. What lake are you on? Very beautiful and the cabin looks cozy. I said it previously on your past video and I'll say it again, everytime I watch your videos, I always seem to get hungry....keep the videos coming and keep up the great work...jeff...
Well you can’t get a more real world test than that. I gotta say though that the trangia alcohol stove, or something like it, will give you a boil no problem. It’s much more effective than that little thing you had. As for wood, there are stick stoves like the firebox, that are insanely hot, and with a few twigs, and some practice, will boil water faster than a fuel stove. I agree a plain fire, that is attended will work better too, but you had a lot going on there. I loved my MSR whisperlite, but something has gone wrong with it. I’ve cleaned the jet, the generator, etc…but it only burns with a piss poor flame. After over 25 yrs, it’s really let me down on multiple occasions, so I just ordered the primus omni fuel. Same sort of deal, but with a second valve for better control, and jets for any fuel around. So I can bring just kerosine for lamps, and stove. Good luck with the cabin Reno’s. It’s a hell of a nice place.
I have the jet boil that you buy here in corner brook at good buddy's it was 30 bucks I believe with a small canister and can boil my woods kettle in about 3 to 4 minutes in winter not sure what kind of butane I believe it's mostly iso
I’m shocked at the cold weather results with your isobutane stove. I’ve never had an issue with any of my high quality iso stoves in cold weather. I have had issues with some of the cheap China knock off iso stoves. That alcohol stove is no good unless you’re just warming up water you know is already safe to drink. If you can’t boil with it, it’s not worth it’s weight. Just my opinion As a rule, I’ll get my first boil going with a ‘stove’ while I gather wood for future needs. My favorite ‘survival stove’ is the Esbit pocket stove. It fits in my pocket and it holds Six 14g Solid Fuel Tablets too. * I recycle all of my iso butane and propane canisters.
Liquid butane boils at about -0.5°C, liquid propane from about -40°C. As a result, butane, unlike propane, is unsuitable for applications where the temperature in which the gas tank or gas bottle is set up is below 5°C. The reason is that at a temperature below 5°C, insufficient liquid butane is transferred to vaporous butane, with the result that no/insufficient pressure is created that will drive the butane gas to a consumer device via a pressure regulator.
I just purchased 4 med size iso butane fuel tanks on bell island last week for $2 each. I left 2 in case someone else wants them. If the other 2 are still there next month when I go back ill buy the last ones left
Happy Easter. I prefer the good old wood fire. However we do use a butane stove for cooking in the hot summer months. I'll have to look into a multi fuel stove, seems the best route. You mentioned you were in the army?
I was surprised the butane did so poorly for my hunting pack ive always use a pocket rocket type stove and isobutane propane mix with a little stanley camp cook or a jet boil i got a couple yrs back i want something light and hot that works and on my atv and truck i pack them green propane tank and burners with a base but i refill them
Great video. Love the drone footage.We love the butane stove that Mel got in newfoundland but we won't be using it in extreme cold. Defefenitly want to get a mountain stove after watching this
Very interesting and fair comparison of stoves to the point of even testing them in two different seasons. Great video overall!!!👍
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Thanks, I had to watch this video again. I have been using the MSR stoves for 37 years. My original whistler lite is still in working order. They are so inexpensive here in Colorado that I bought dozens in the last few years. One was 2.95 US!!! I hope your video convinces folks to ditch the disposable fuel tanks and go white gas. Thanks again, love your channel!
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Very informative text‼️ Thattook a lot of work to get all that set up!what beautiful scenery!It was so cool that you repeated the test in winter too😊
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Very cool, thanks for sharing and thanks for your service..
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didnt know you were a service man...Thankyou for your service brother Kirby from sask ,,,,
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Those little stoves look nice and probably would get you out of a pickle but nothing beats wood and you get the great smell from wood. Thanks for sharing and for taking the time to test them all.
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Great information 😁👍👍👍. Hello from Indiana USA and this 62 year old lady. Glad I'm subscribed 👍😻😊😻👍
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Interesting stuff my friend .love the video
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That is a beautiful table you have there in your cabin. Interesting stove comparison.
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Always used a small propane stove and refilled the small green tanks but I really like the Mountain stove idea . Going to Amazon now to get one ,Thanks Bob !
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Another great video sir. Looking forward to another.
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Thanks for the information about the stoves
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Enjoyed the video . I also own a MSR Whisperlite international for over 20 years and probably the most versatile stove on the market today. I also have MSR PocketRocket 2 Butane stove and if I took it in cold weather camping i would have to put the canister in my jacket to warm it up before using it. If possible I will have a campfire and make use it of course, what camping is all about😊
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Very informative. Thank you.
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Love all your videos and that cabin you got well worth it
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Great info and review of these stoves. I’ll buy the Moutain stove for sure. Much more convenient out in the bush with all the different fuels it can use.
Loving your Channel
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Been following you for a while. This video was excellent. Havent done much winter camping but plan to. Been using propane an butane but definitely switching now. Thank you sir.
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Ive spent the last 5 years cycling across Canada and the US, ive used all those types of stoves plus wood stoves and my go to stove is a MSR Dragonfly which works off of any fuel from white gas, jet fuel to desiel, i use it with gasoline which is available everywhere. Works great in the winter as well. With buyane in the winter its best to have a stove you can turn the canister upside down, the butane seperates from the propane when it gets cold.
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I have the same blue 27 year old propane stove👌🏼👌🏼.
Enjoy your trips✌🏼( dan)
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That was a very interesting experiment. I have to admit I was impressed with that little one with the refillable gas can. I may get one of those myself, although nothing will ever fully replace the plain old wood fire for the outdoor experience. Still, a great experiment.
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It's some good seeing a man living out his dreams.
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Your mountain stove is hands down a better system than most in cold weather bob . I have multiple types as well but not a multi fuel like yours .I switched to the Kelly kettle because of the container waste. Up until your video I didn’t know anyone who used gas in their stove , I think I will be getting one . Thanks
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also a fan of the Kelly Kettle been using one for a long time
Interesting,like the mountain stove ive never had one..really enjoy your videos,thanks for sharing and stay safe.
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Nice analysis.
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The gas works the best and is the best value. Similar weight. The butane stoves are a convenience thing from what I have seen. Very expensive and need really good conditions. Thanks Bob!
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Great stuff! 👍
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Interesting experiment thanks for the info.
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Pretty crafty comparing both seasons but I think for overall quick water boil you cant beat those old Kelly kettle but I would imagine you already know that. Stay safe
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Thanks for the informative video. I am in the markey for a stove. Guess MSR is my go to choice
Right on!
I use a kovea spider butane stove when its cold out. Lets you flip the cylinder over and use liquid butane instead of gas, it has a fuel warming tube like the msr gas stove. I have a camper but I still use coleman white gas stove at the campsite. Sure its a bit more finicky than propane, but where is the fun in easy :) I buy the big 16oz butane and use them to refill a few small 4oz ones. That really cuts down on the cost.
Nice I'll check out that stove
I'm on team wood fire! The only fuel that absorbs co2 and makes habitat for animals while it grows! Plus no garbage. I like the butane ones for in my SUV though, not gonna have a fire in there! I used an alcohol survival stove just like that on my 60 day bikepacking tour, for stealth camping or really hot weather when you don't want a fire. I agree they're great but they can't handle a breath of wind so I usually end up piling all my gear around it to try to protect it. My family has an acre that's half wood, we could sell the half acre to a developer but we're keeping it wooded instead and using it to supply fuel and building materials indefinitely. It's also a corridor for wildlife to the river.
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Thanks for the info. Good video!!
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Another great video Bob
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Newfound is beautiful it is a lot more mountainous than I thought. Not having been there I just pictured the frozen tundra.
Lol yes most people do
Very well done thanks for taking the time
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Interesting outcome there Bob. Great video. Take Care
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Great comparison.
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Very interesting video ! Take care Bob
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I use the Uberleben twig stove and I love it. No need for fuel canisters, just use twigs/small sticks. Folds down to pack flat. Creates a small rocket stove flame. You can even grill on it.
Nice i always wanted to try them
Good comparison. I always felt white gas got a raw deal when the propane stoves became "the new go to". Here in NL propane will get you through most of what your going to do BUT like you said the environmental waste plus continued cost. So I agree anyone buying new should buy the mountain stove even if up front cost is a bit higher but you save in the long run.
Ever try one of the old tobacco tin stoves? Essentially it is similar in concept to the alcohol stove. You take an old tin, like the old tobacco ones (before they were plastic) and you put a roll of toilet paper in it and fill it with brake fluid or some other similar fluid and screw the cover on (probably why they used the tobacco tin for the cover). When you need a stove you unscrew the cover and light the contents, place your pot or rack on top and cook what you need.When your done screw the lid on to smother the fire. The ones I had were not that great and burned way to much fluid but was curious if you ever tried one?
Yes we did try them years ago before any of these stoves were even around
My great grandfather would have luved one of them stoves.he was a Newfoundlander from badger...he died when he pulled his canoe Ashore for a boil up.. happy Easter 🐣
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I’ve used wood fire and propane in winter numerous times. I’ve thought about getting butane because I was told it’ll outdo propane in the cold. Glad I never got butane. BTW, I do refill my 1lb propane cylinders.
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Good comparison, on all fronts. I was surprised how poorly the Pocket Rocket did in the cold. But, I'm old school, wood fire all year round. Time to relax and enjoy nature at her best.
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Not really a fair comparison. All 5 stoves really had different qualities and are perfect for use in each's select situation. For example, I have a 2 burner Coleman propane stove. Works great at a campsite, but I use my jet boil for backpacking. Butane doesn't work well below it's boiling point of -1C or 30F. Sometimes people keep the butane canisters inside their jackets in the winter to keep them warm. For spring to fall, a butane Jet Boil is small and light and works perfectly. But in the winter, a propane or a mountain stove works best. He clearly had his mind made up before conducting the test. I would have liked him to spend the time focusing on his favorite, the mountain stove. How it works, how to use it, how to maintain it, etc. It is probably the best all around outdoor stove of the bunch. Good video, though. I enjoy the channel. And he is absolutely spot on - PACK OUT THOSE EMPTY CONTAINERS!!!!!
Comparison is not against each other
Hey Bob, I didn’t know your x military aswell.
I was in 1RNFLDR, then the airforce. Got out in 2013
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Hello again and thanks for the stove comparisons. Beautiful country and a great life style your living. I meant to comment on your previous video but didn't get a chance. Has a newfie living out of the province e I must say I never tried pork buns but after watching your video, I m diffently going to give it a try, they look delicious. Also great work on the cabin. What lake are you on? Very beautiful and the cabin looks cozy. I said it previously on your past video and I'll say it again, everytime I watch your videos, I always seem to get hungry....keep the videos coming and keep up the great work...jeff...
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That was a good video
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Comparison was great. The more you know 😊
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Great video buddy twig stove is good as well
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Well you can’t get a more real world test than that.
I gotta say though that the trangia alcohol stove, or something like it, will give you a boil no problem. It’s much more effective than that little thing you had.
As for wood, there are stick stoves like the firebox, that are insanely hot, and with a few twigs, and some practice, will boil water faster than a fuel stove. I agree a plain fire, that is attended will work better too, but you had a lot going on there.
I loved my MSR whisperlite, but something has gone wrong with it. I’ve cleaned the jet, the generator, etc…but it only burns with a piss poor flame. After over 25 yrs, it’s really let me down on multiple occasions, so I just ordered the primus omni fuel. Same sort of deal, but with a second valve for better control, and jets for any fuel around. So I can bring just kerosine for lamps, and stove.
Good luck with the cabin Reno’s. It’s a hell of a nice place.
Good point
I have the jet boil that you buy here in corner brook at good buddy's it was 30 bucks I believe with a small canister and can boil my woods kettle in about 3 to 4 minutes in winter not sure what kind of butane I believe it's mostly iso
Kk nice 30 bucks for a jet boil wow thats cheap
I’m shocked at the cold weather results with your isobutane stove. I’ve never had an issue with any of my high quality iso stoves in cold weather. I have had issues with some of the cheap China knock off iso stoves.
That alcohol stove is no good unless you’re just warming up water you know is already safe to drink. If you can’t boil with it, it’s not worth it’s weight. Just my opinion
As a rule, I’ll get my first boil going with a ‘stove’ while I gather wood for future needs.
My favorite ‘survival stove’ is the Esbit pocket stove. It fits in my pocket and it holds Six 14g Solid Fuel Tablets too.
* I recycle all of my iso butane and propane canisters.
Excellent thanks
Liquid butane boils at about -0.5°C, liquid propane from about -40°C. As a result, butane, unlike propane, is unsuitable for applications where the temperature in which the gas tank or gas bottle is set up is below 5°C. The reason is that at a temperature below 5°C, insufficient liquid butane is transferred to vaporous butane, with the result that no/insufficient pressure is created that will drive the butane gas to a consumer device via a pressure regulator.
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I just purchased 4 med size iso butane fuel tanks on bell island last week for $2 each. I left 2 in case someone else wants them. If the other 2 are still there next month when I go back ill buy the last ones left
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Happy Easter. I prefer the good old wood fire. However we do use a butane stove for cooking in the hot summer months. I'll have to look into a multi fuel stove, seems the best route. You mentioned you were in the army?
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If you used that little kettle with a lid you have, you might have got that alcohol stove to boil
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I was surprised the butane did so poorly for my hunting pack ive always use a pocket rocket type stove and isobutane propane mix with a little stanley camp cook or a jet boil i got a couple yrs back i want something light and hot that works and on my atv and truck i pack them green propane tank and burners with a base but i refill them
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Should make one weekly two weeks to long
Yes alot people want more
Summary - abstract:
Oct 2022 +15 *C
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propane 3 : 45
mountain stove 3 : 45
butane 5 : 14
wood fire 6 : 15
alcohol 18 min...
Feb 2023 -15*C
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mountain stove 3 : 50
propane 3 : 53
wood fire 6 : 45
butane 22 min...
alcohol 22 min...
Sounds good
Like to see a Kelly Kettle compare
Yes I'd love to have one
What brand of camouflage clothing do u wear??
Cabelas
Refilling the 1lb res is illegal
Really
Very good Info to know, thank you.
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Great video. Love the drone footage.We love the butane stove that Mel got in newfoundland but we won't be using it in extreme cold. Defefenitly want to get a mountain stove after watching this
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Why you test 5 stove?
#PointlessVideo
You should know by now at your age how they all work, especially if outdoor life is your thing.
I do but do the viewers