I still don't understand why the game publishers kept letting him run with their properties, even after it was known he sucks at making movies. Maybe regardless of the movie quality, the marketing effect for the associated game still worked
I'd love them to explain the tax loophole that was used to bin Batgirl and Scoob!... because the excuses that the Batgirl movie was "irredeemable" is absolute nonsense.
Those are also being primarily made so Disney doesn't lose copyright over those iterations of the characters so its even worse than banking on nostalgia.
@@MechaJoezilla more on the line as 1 movie considering that book is like 200 pages less than all the other books. The changed so much in the movie and added a lot to it to make it 3 movies where it's almost a totally different story.
Manos: The Hands of Fate was made on a bet. Harold P. Warren, who wrote, produced and directed the movie, was just an insurance and fertilizer salesman in the El Paso, Texas area. He made the bet with screenwriter Stirling Silliphant, who won an Oscar for In rhe Heat of the Night. Warren told Silliphant it'd be very easy to make a horror movie. The only problem was he was inexperienced and so was the cast and crew. Most of the cast were promised profits in lieu of a salary but the movie bombed badly that someone said the dog was the only one who got paid because it got a fresh can of dog food to eat.
@Dancing Equilibrium I like that both Dr. Forrester and Frank are both seen separately apologizing for forcing them to watch it. "Once again, Manos...the Hands of Fate." Probably one of the best episodes they did.
If you think the original was bad, have you seen the prequel and the sequel?? Manos: the rise of Torgo and Manos Returns.. They make the original look like Citizen Kane....
That movie had the worst climax I‘ve ever seen. It was just 1 hour getting to know characters, then they went killing the antagonist in 1 sec and the end. I was really shocked that it was even worse than the reviews made it look
Maybe that's why Orion made this awful picture with terrible results like marketing, distribution and so on. It didn't work for anybody and that's why stayed away from many movies for good.
Hannibal Rising it's actually a GREAT movie, not only storywise but we get all the background of the who and why Hannibal Lecter became what he is in the sequel movies and it makes perfect sense.
I liked the other novels enough that I was on-board for Rising. I liked it academically, thinking of it as sort of a fictional history book (though it didn't need to be novel length). Refreshing to see someone praising the film, though. 😎📖
@@briansullivan5908 William Peterson is much better than Edward Norton, who is also a fine actor. I saw a cut of Peterson talking to hopkins’ Lector, really more effective than either movie imo. Brian cox is ok, but lacks the menace we expect from Hopkins, though at the time he was fine.
It sounds to me like Winnie The Poo Of Blood And Honey was made because... ummm... well... ummm... well, because reasons that's why 🤨, Hollywood what the f**k?, seriously, what the actual f**k? 🤣🤣🤣
This is like why Disney makes live action remakes of their properties: Because they CAN. Disney made its classic animated films based on properties that had entered the public domain, and now they do the live action versions of those classics to keep their versions OUT of the public domain. And this is also the reason why Roger Corman did HIS Fantastic Four film in 1994. The producer of the film was about to lose the rights to Marvel unless he was able to make a film within 6 months for as little money as possible. That, of course, was Roger Corman's specialty. The irony, of course, is the 1994 film -- never intended to be released -- is in many ways a lot better than the Sony films. The Thing looks perfect, almost like how The Thing looked in the early comics, the costume for Doctor Doom is very good (despite the actor being almost unintelligible while wearing the mask), and the film comes pretty close to comics-accurate, which is more than you can say about the Sony films. The special effects are worse than your Daddy's Macintosh, but they were acceptable for the most part (the fight scenes are retarded, but you can't have everything for a million bucks).
the one with the blonde lady and chris evens? because if it was that one then I liked it but if it was the other one aka the "fan made look" one then it was rubbish
Battlefield Earth may be a terrible film but the Rifftrax version is HEE-larious!!! Bill: “so the guy who wrote this founded a religion with millions of followers huh?…”
@@BR-jw7pm Sadly it's nearly impossible to fact check. But a teacher at my college knew L. Ron Hubbard personally. He claimed Scientology was the result of Hubbard being bet he couldn't write a believable religion (apparently an insult towards the author's previously published novels). Unfortunately Hubbard won the bet.
@@sheridanroad2001 L. Ron was a notorious con man who tried to get Dianetics going as a "self-help" philosophical movement, but then got pissed because he had to pay taxes, and churches did not. So he did some tweaking and turned Dianetics into Scientology just so he could avoid the IRS and taxes...
There was another Fantastic Four movie made in 1994 for the same reason. In this case it was a super low budget turd made *only* to keep the film rights and wasn't really meant to be released. I actually caught a screening of it in my local weirdo Art Theater in the early 2000s, and it is bonkers. Unsurprisingly, it was co-produced by the great Roger Corman.
1994's movie was specifically made to retain the rights. I don't think the 2015 version was. They just had to schedule it in time to keep them. You don't spend $120 million on a movie just for rights.
I always felt that the failing of Hannibal Rising as a movie was that they did the usual Hollywood thing & left out the most interesting aspects from the book, focusing instead on the schlocky horror scenes.
Despite Hellraiser Revelations and it's sequel ending the series on a mixed note. These films also featured Henry Cavil too. It was a "Hellraiser at home" vibe. Before there was popularity of movies at home with streaming services. This mark the end of the original Hellraiser film series. The 2022 Hellraiser remake. Is brand new iteration of the series. Not required to the original film and its sequels.
Uwe Boll used a tax loophole. Which gave the world attention. Okay. And no. Not for tax evasion or shady purposes. But rather for writing off taxes. As in either lower it, or paying the tax credits off. To justify paying taxes and the existence of tax loophole in recent years.
This must be an old video re-uploaded because at beginning of this year a new Hellraiser movie has indeed came out and it could be considered a proper reboot. (and it's quite good,actually)
You talking about the Hulu Hellraiser? I personally throughly enjoyed it! I don't know the whole mythos of the franchise but I DO know all I heard on social media was people crying about how Pinhead was a female. People slammed the movie HARD bc of it. Again, I personally thought it was great! 🤷♂️
@@LordRain1031 I'm a fan of the original movies. At least of the first three. All I can say it's the better movie from the second. (Yes,all the other are quite shite but still). It's very well made, the plot it's quite good (for a horror movie) and overall its a funny experience. And about Pinhead.. technically is an interdimensional being so it doesn't have sex. And btw people are stupid, criticize something before even seeing it.
@@LordRain1031 I haven't seen anyone "slamming" it because pinhead is female. I don't know what sort of things you watch or read, but it is obviously filled with people that have no idea what they're talking about. Anybody that knows anything about the hellraiser universe was ok with it. Barker himself mentioned several times how it is a thing and everyone knows hes right. You are using social media yes? Maybe listening to people who are professional victims on both sides?
I once read that Scientology lays it on thick when they're schmoozing their celebrity members. I would say I'm surprised they don't have more propaganda films with big stars. Now that I think of it though, perhaps they do but most of them are subtler.
How did you not do two entries for the Fantastic Four? Two FF movies with the same cynical reason for being made??? When I saw the first FF entry on your list I thought for sure #1 would be the Roger Corman FF film because it would be too funny not to do.
the one with the blonde lady and chris evens? because if it was that one then I liked it but if it was the other one aka the "fan made look" one then it was rubbish > fantastic four
@@aliceramdom.s Not the Chris Evans one. The very first FF movie ever made that was never officially released. It was made by low-budget film director Roger Corman with no plan of ever being released. Like the film on this list it was only made to keep the rights to the property from expiring. Oddly, some elements of the writing weren't bad and felt true to the comics. But the effects and other production values were horrible.
How about Birth of a Nation? A 1940s propaganda film made to put a positive spin on the KKK? If that isn't an awful reason to make a movie,I don't know what is.
apart from Brian Cox as Lector (not Lechter), it messed up RED DRAGON, changing a lot of details in a silly way, and threw in lots of silly action and noise.
If you mean by deaths of "good characters", you mean Han, Luke and Leia, let me explain that. Han Solo died in "The Force Awakens", for one simple reason- because Harrison Ford wanted him too. Ford has wanted to kill off Han since "A New Hope". It was written into "Empire Strikes Back" that Han be placed in carbonite, partly because George Lucas didn't know if Ford would agree to be in ROTJ, so if he hadn't, Han would have written out by "dying" from the Carbonite. Ford wanted Lucas to kill off Han, but Lucas refused, as he saw "Star Wars" as family films, and they wouldn't want to see a hero die. So when Disney approached Ford about TFA, he agreed to do it, if they killed off Han. Luke got killed off, but do what. He was a Force ghost in the third one, and was in TROS more than when he was alive in TFA. Leia died for one reason- Carrie Fisher died. Fisher died while filming TROS, so she is missing from the second half of the film. So don't blane Disney. Ons death is because the actor wanted it, another is because the actress died mid-film, and it isn't Disney's fault Carrie Fisher shortened her life from drug and alcohol use. Only Luke dying was Disney's idea, and he was a Force ghost anyway, so it does not really count.
Obi Wan died in 4, Han was 7’s Obi Wan Yoda died early in 6, Luke was 8’s Yoda and died at the end of the movie Leia died in 9 because her actress died
Sad that the very first low budget Fantastic Four movie is WAY better than the reboot, which I still refuse to watch the whole thing. Battlefield Earth is one of the only times I really REALLY wanted to leave the theater. Most of the audience couldn't stop laughing and riffing on it and thats why I stayed, live MST3K.
Come on now. Nintendo was pure genius with "The Wizard." Think about this. I didn't see the movies in theaters, probably bc I didn't watch TV and thus never saw trailers. However. The movie about video games to a 8 year old? The Wizard (for its time) was underrated and good. Does it hold up to today's "youth"?? Not a snowballs chance in hell! But for the kids that were around MY age at the time?? I didn't have a single friend that didn't love the movie! 😁😆
@@erakfishfishfish never watched Citizen Kane, I've heard the name but that's about it. I think I was between 9-10 years old when I rented it on VHS. Loved that movie as a kid!
Chances are, your Dad was a Scientologist. And a rabid one, at that. Those are the only ones who've ever had anything decent to say about that monstrosity
@@sarreqteryx You're separating L. Ron Hubbard from a cult? Sorry, that doesn't work. The man was a psychotic delusional sociopath. Who took advantage of vulnerable, simple-minded people. Kind of a publicly known fact. Prove me wrong. 🤷♀️
@@Hilz28 Not necessarily. Hubbard wrote some good classic sci-fi. "Return to Tomorrow" is still one of my favs, and I have zip to do with any religion..
Considering how much in merchandising it made it's factually guaranteed alot of those sales were from parents or kids who have never even heard of Cars and still don't know what it is.
Roger Corman’s Fantastic Four has to top any list. It was made solely to retain IP rights with absolutely NO INTENTION to release as a feature...something nobody told the cast and crew until it was finished. The documentary “Doomed” tells the story in almost heart breaking detail.
the one with the blonde lady and chris evens? because if it was that one then I liked it but if it was the other one aka the "fan made look" one then it was rubbish > fantastic four
Ŕegarding Cars. 1) My son has EVERY Cars car from the original! He LOVED that movie. 2) I seem to be the only person who LIKES Cars 2. I find a spy movie using Cars to be so fun, and the movie itself enjoyable.
I swear we contributed half the money cars made from merchandise. 🤦🏻♀️ my kids wanted EVERYTHING cars. We had the cars bed set, about 4 of every character car, the race track, Doc Garage and more. We have a big extended family, and they was always what he wanted for birthdays and Christmas 🤷🏻♀️
The Transformers: The Movie (1986) was made for reasons similar to Cars 2. Hasbro wanted to promote the toys, the same way the animated tv series did, so Hasbro approved the production with a budget six times the budget of three episodes of the original tv series (the movie's budget is $6 million) Three notable things about the movie: 1) Hasbro wanted to promote a new line of Transformers toys, so the writer was told to KILL all the original characters off AT THE BEGINNING. This led to criticism about the film's violence. 2) It's the last film Orson Welles made, and he didn't understand the story at all. 3) The movie is now a cult classic. Partly because of the quality, partly because of the violence at the start.
I have never heard of Hellraiser Revelations. I think I came across it on a video about ashcan copies. Yep, rushed out the door to maintain the rights. Despite how silly the reason on #6 is, I still liked that film. And hearing Cars merchandise sales being over 10 billion dollars, my jaw dropped! I am honestly shocked.
If Ghostbusters 2016 isn't on here, y'all failed. Paul Feig: "I, a man, am so confident that women are funny, that I will hunt around for a franchise I can take over, and prove my point by giving my actressess no scripts to work from! They're funny! They can improv the whole thing! People are just bigots if they won't watch it! Wait, what's that you say!? Harold Ramis is dead? *KA-CHING!!!"*
Did Paul Frog actually make that statement? Or did you just make that up? Maybe I could sum up your take as that you hate women and don't find them funny, and are angry because you can't get laid.
Battlefield Earth - one of the things that always bugged me about the in universe logic is how the hell did the Harriers still function after 1000 years with no maintenance?
You can add “After Earth” with Will Smith to “Battlefield Earth” as a movie made to promote Scientology. Also, Orion is pronounced “Oh-Ryan”. The studio was named after the mythological character.
Oh, by the way, all the folks were talking about Orion, the Amazon based studio that some great movies like The Terminator, RoboCop One and Two, Dances with Wolves, both Bill & Ted flicks and The Silence of the Lambs. When Orion was filed for bankruptcy in 1992, the studio wasn't sure they won't have another string of hits starting with Four Weddings and a Funeral, The Madness of King George, Carrington, Dead Man Walking, Fargo and Ulee's Gold as well as TV series was Paternity Court on Bounce. Today, the Orion TV/film library was now at the hands of Sony Pictures Television/TeleVentures since 1998 except Dead Man Walking was now at the hands of Viacom since 2000.
I'm not entirely sure that is correct. The story was written by M. Night Shyamalan based on an idea by Will Smith. The two are friends (or they became friends around that time), but the film itself has nothing about scientology in it, not as far as I can tell. It's still a really bad movie, the same way that all stories by L. Ron Hubbard are crap, so that's pretty much all they have in common. But just because it's a turd doesn't mean it was crapped by the same crazy lunatic.
Fox wasn't being cynical from stopping marvel to make movies. It was Marvel's CEO Ike Perlmutter, who wasn't happy that marvel still doesn't have the rights to the Fantastic Four and the X-Men.
Did you know? The Walking Dead show used a tax loophole shelter by Georgia Peach. Tax Loophole Shelter was known for being used in Germany. And Then, the rest of the world uses today. Tax Loophole Shelter still exists today.
I give these films on this list. A pass, and credit where credit to due. As a last resort and chance at it. I think The Emoji Movie was one of the most movies made, for ridiculous and cynical purposes.
I don't consider the Eragon film, as cynical. I like the fast pace route. I read the book as a child. I found it slow at times. When the film came out, I was in middle school. I was no longer a child anymore. I was going near my path to adolescent hood. In order to reach my path to young adult hood. I wish Fox had some involvement with the remake, than having Disney handle everything. As I known, let book adaptations either be film or tv. There's no forcing it on either format, let it be what it wants to be. Whether the author of the source material is involved or doesn't want to. Be what you want it to become.
Why Harvey and Bob Weinstein. Have a Grudge Against The Hollywood System. Looking forward to another 25 years in the business, the brothers have already sought backing from several Wall Street firms. Of course, they will have to find a new name, as Miramax, which is derived from those of their parents, Miriam and Max, is being kept by Disney. But the often-volatile Harvey Weinstein is again thinking big. At the pre-Oscar party, he ended the evening by saying, "We've just begun to fight." Correction: March 7, 2005, Monday Because of a production error, a Page 1 article in some copies yesterday about the breakup of the business relationship between the Walt Disney Company and the founders of Miramax Films omitted a passage at the continuation. The affected section should have read: "The story behind the Disney-Miramax breakup, on one level, is about money and ego. The 12-year relationship went the way of many famous Hollywood marriages: infatuation, then betrayal and, expected soon, a divorce with a rich settlement. "But it is also a morality play with important lessons. It was not enough for the Weinsteins to make great movies -- Disney wanted those movies to reap lots of money, too. What bothered Mr. Eisner most, said representatives from both sides, was that Disney had unwittingly put together a deal that, in later years, so richly compensated the Weinsteins at Disney's expense." Big mistake there Disney, big mistake. No wonder the weinsteins are split form Disney. They won this debate in the end.
As a child of the 80's I thoroughly loved "The Wizard" but now as an adult it is a very obvious Nintendo ad. The last game is a new game (Super Mario 3) and then Jimmy's friends know everything about the game suddenly...GEEZ FRED SAVAGE! Enter this contest yourself instead of having your autistic friend do it for you!
When it was coming out, a lot of entertainment shows were saying Battlefield Earth was going to be the next Star Wars. And if you think the movie is so-bad-it's-good, you should listen to the DVD commentary. This also wasn't the first time a Fantastic Four movie was made to prevent Rights returning an IP holder. A Fantastic Four movie was made in 94. It was so bad, they never released it. It cam be viewed in it's entirety on TH-cam. That time though, the Rights would revert to Marvel, who regrettably sold Rights to various Books in hopes of dealing with their financial woes & also the hope that they could have a cultural phenomenon like Batman 89. This is why FOX had the Rights to X-Men & Sony the Rights to Spiderman. Red Dragon is based of the same story as Manhunter. The Ena Gadda Divida ending to Manhunter was due to the budget running out & no more money allotted to finish the film. It's not a terrible movie. Gene Hackman option the Rights for Silence of the Lambs & wanted to play Lector. The flop of Manhunter already made studios think the sequel in the book series would be a bad idea. But it still got made.
The 1990’s Fantastic Four was made for the same reason! I don’t think it was ever officially released but if you think the 2015 version was bad it looks like peak marvel by comparison. Great bad movie watch! 😂
Evolution: to market a shampoo containing selenium. To be fair though, the movie was entertaining and enjoyable, and the cast delivered the comedy well.
Rumour has it that Amber Heard would be playing a real life version of herself, but less evil. The real reason the film never took off was because she couldn’t make it to makeup to have all the pins put in her head. She did call ahead though, and said something about leaving a present in her boyfriend’s bed. Lucky guy! I wonder what she got him?
On one hand, I feel absolutely awful for all the Fox employees who got laid off after Disney bought them, especially studios Fox owned like Blue Sky and for this to happen so close to COVID is even more disheartening. On the other side of things, the executives that made Fantastic Four movies just to keep the rights TWICE and the second time around, to keep them away from a studio they knew would execute them so much better, all while screwing over the filmmakers, as far as I care, they got what they deserved. Consider that the one time I support Disney monopolizing a company.
Hannibal Rising literally doesn't exist, as far as I'm concerned. Hannibal Lecter does not have some traumatizing past that made him the way he is. He's not crazy or traumatized. He's unique. He simply sees the world in a completely different way and his actions all make moral and ethical sense from within his worldview. That's what makes him so terrifying and unpredictable.
I don't think Fantastic 4(2015) was absolute garbage, it is pretty bad but it had some interesting ideas at least in my opinion. The visuals were actually pretty good and the cast was actually really good. How they handled 'don't use Marvel Comics things' was interesting, it wasn't good but seeing how you can take something from someone else and put your own spin on it was interesting. The story and the whole air of the project that was terrible. It was made to be made not because there was passion for the work. This is a case where I don't blame the actors at all, Kate Mara was literally told not to read the Marvel Comics to learn about the character because they couldn't use anything from them. I did like all the cast and think they did their best with such terrible work.
the one with the blonde lady and chris evens? because if it was that one then I liked it but if it was the other one aka the "fan made look" one then it was rubbish
Battlefield Earth, the novel, is nearly unreadable. The movie actually ends at around the half way mark of the book, which is ironically where I finally put it down out of boredom and frustration
Hellraiser 3 onward just aren't part of the franchise, in my head cannon. There are the original two films, and then there is this separate collection of human feces, two of which managed to get Doug Bradly to appear in them. The reboot was a welcome breath of fresh air. I genuinely want more of Jamie Clayton's Hell Priest.
That Winnie the Pooh movie was shit lol most god awful movie and that's saying something because I haven't seen a good movie since 2020. Will most definitely not be seeing the abortion of a sequel nor the other movies the director will poop out
I completely love the Wizard with my whole chest. Even as a child I knew what it was, but I didn't care. I totally connected with the characters and the story, and I still love it to this day.
this list is laughable, most of these reasons aren't even "terrible," outside of United Passions and maybe the tax loophole, if most of these entries are like how the description describes them, sneezing on set is a criminal offense.
I always wondered how Uwe Boll was able to make so many stellar flops over and over again. Now I know.
It sounds kinda like the plot of The Producers.
I still don't understand why the game publishers kept letting him run with their properties, even after it was known he sucks at making movies. Maybe regardless of the movie quality, the marketing effect for the associated game still worked
@@olanmills64 Postal was priddy good though.
...Admittedly, 50% of that is Dave Foley being in the movie.
@@AlexReynard and another 40% Zack Ward. Which leaves 10% to actually funny screenwriting.
I'd love them to explain the tax loophole that was used to bin Batgirl and Scoob!... because the excuses that the Batgirl movie was "irredeemable" is absolute nonsense.
"Who the hell makes a sports movie where the executives are the heroes?" - John Oliver.
You forgot 50 shades of grey
The Cars 2 point is a bit laughable, so it's bad to make a sequel to make money off of hte first movie?
And the Live-action Disney remakes to cash in on our nostalgia for the animated originals, don't forget those
And while completely unnecessary, some are actually enjoyable. Beauty and the Beast is a personal favorite for me among them.
@@benlevan5645 well to anyone else, they'd say those out there "they're full of sh*t locks"
Those are also being primarily made so Disney doesn't lose copyright over those iterations of the characters so its even worse than banking on nostalgia.
@@kiradattei ooo, this is a good point there
sometimes its the other way around
Interesting that you never talked about triple dip move The Hobbit
Yup, I came here to mention The Hobbit, but assumed someone had beaten me to it!
Yes! That was supposed to be 2 movies, not 3!
@@MechaJoezilla more on the line as 1 movie considering that book is like 200 pages less than all the other books. The changed so much in the movie and added a lot to it to make it 3 movies where it's almost a totally different story.
right
I guess the FIFA movie didn't achieve it's GOAL!!!!!!!
lol
Hannibal rising wasn't a bad movie at all. It was considerably better than Hannibal.
Well yeah. Hannibal was such a terrible Movie. I have love all books but the 3rd movie...meh. Nah its a shame what their have done with the story
Manos: The Hands of Fate was made on a bet. Harold P. Warren, who wrote, produced and directed the movie, was just an insurance and fertilizer salesman in the El Paso, Texas area. He made the bet with screenwriter Stirling Silliphant, who won an Oscar for In rhe Heat of the Night. Warren told Silliphant it'd be very easy to make a horror movie. The only problem was he was inexperienced and so was the cast and crew. Most of the cast were promised profits in lieu of a salary but the movie bombed badly that someone said the dog was the only one who got paid because it got a fresh can of dog food to eat.
And thank MST3K for making it worth a watch!
@@LostSoulsParadoxicalDoctrine YES!..."and then there's Maude!"😂😂😂
AWESOME 😁.
@Dancing Equilibrium I like that both Dr. Forrester and Frank are both seen separately apologizing for forcing them to watch it. "Once again, Manos...the Hands of Fate." Probably one of the best episodes they did.
If you think the original was bad, have you seen the prequel and the sequel??
Manos: the rise of Torgo and Manos Returns..
They make the original look like Citizen Kane....
$9 billion of that Cars mecrhandise ended up in my son's toybox.
The last billion ended up in my son's toy box, a Cars (3 drawer) wood toy box
Such a shame the 2015 Fantastic Four reboot didn't turn out well because I really like Josh Trank's prior movie Chronicle.
I was bored in the opening scene
@@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu I also want to know. I hate when they use video stills they don’t address
That movie had the worst climax I‘ve ever seen. It was just 1 hour getting to know characters, then they went killing the antagonist in 1 sec and the end. I was really shocked that it was even worse than the reviews made it look
Loved Chronicle
@@viirusclan875 It was a low budget film that's why.
I always imagine Satan losing a high stakes card game to Uwe Boll or something 🤔🙄🤷🏿♂️
Dont' forget the awfull "Mac and Me."
I was about to say that.
Maybe that's why Orion made this awful picture with terrible results like marketing, distribution and so on. It didn't work for anybody and
that's why stayed away from many movies for good.
You mean the 80 minute McDonald's commercial?
Jason X (Jason but in space) was made solely because the owner of the rights refused to sign them over to make Freddy Vs Jason.
lol
Hannibal Rising it's actually a GREAT movie, not only storywise but we get all the background of the who and why Hannibal Lecter became what he is in the sequel movies and it makes perfect sense.
That's why I nominated it for Nickelodeon's 'Feel Good Teen Movie' award!
What? It took ME back to my heady days of pimply youth!?
I liked the other novels enough that I was on-board for Rising. I liked it academically, thinking of it as sort of a fictional history book (though it didn't need to be novel length). Refreshing to see someone praising the film, though. 😎📖
Manhunter is very good and underrated.
@@briansullivan5908 William Peterson is much better than Edward Norton, who is also a fine actor. I saw a cut of Peterson talking to hopkins’ Lector, really more effective than either movie imo. Brian cox is ok, but lacks the menace we expect from Hopkins, though at the time he was fine.
Agreed.
was the Twilight double dip shameless? absolutely. but. count your blessings that Twilight's bastard child, Fifty Shades, didn't get the same idea!
“Poo-centric” is definitely the ultimate description of Blood and Honey
yeah like why did a horror flim about a bear who eats honey be made in the first place.
it just felt so unnecessary
It sounds to me like Winnie The Poo Of Blood And Honey was made because... ummm... well... ummm... well, because reasons that's why 🤨, Hollywood what the f**k?, seriously, what the actual f**k? 🤣🤣🤣
This is like why Disney makes live action remakes of their properties: Because they CAN. Disney made its classic animated films based on properties that had entered the public domain, and now they do the live action versions of those classics to keep their versions OUT of the public domain.
And this is also the reason why Roger Corman did HIS Fantastic Four film in 1994. The producer of the film was about to lose the rights to Marvel unless he was able to make a film within 6 months for as little money as possible. That, of course, was Roger Corman's specialty. The irony, of course, is the 1994 film -- never intended to be released -- is in many ways a lot better than the Sony films. The Thing looks perfect, almost like how The Thing looked in the early comics, the costume for Doctor Doom is very good (despite the actor being almost unintelligible while wearing the mask), and the film comes pretty close to comics-accurate, which is more than you can say about the Sony films. The special effects are worse than your Daddy's Macintosh, but they were acceptable for the most part (the fight scenes are retarded, but you can't have everything for a million bucks).
the one with the blonde lady and chris evens? because if it was that one then I liked it but if it was the other one aka the "fan made look" one then it was rubbish
Battlefield Earth may be a terrible film but the Rifftrax version is HEE-larious!!!
Bill: “so the guy who wrote this founded a religion with millions of followers huh?…”
Founded a religion on a bet 😂
@@sheridanroad2001 is that true?!
@@BR-jw7pm Sadly it's nearly impossible to fact check.
But a teacher at my college knew L. Ron Hubbard personally.
He claimed Scientology was the result of Hubbard being bet he couldn't write a believable religion (apparently an insult towards the author's previously published novels).
Unfortunately Hubbard won the bet.
@@sheridanroad2001 L. Ron was a notorious con man who tried to get Dianetics going as a "self-help" philosophical movement, but then got pissed because he had to pay taxes, and churches did not. So he did some tweaking and turned Dianetics into Scientology just so he could avoid the IRS and taxes...
Manhunter was a very good movie how did it flop O:
There was another Fantastic Four movie made in 1994 for the same reason. In this case it was a super low budget turd made *only* to keep the film rights and wasn't really meant to be released. I actually caught a screening of it in my local weirdo Art Theater in the early 2000s, and it is bonkers. Unsurprisingly, it was co-produced by the great Roger Corman.
was is bad bad CGI or "bad" CGI which you can pass ?
1994's movie was specifically made to retain the rights. I don't think the 2015 version was. They just had to schedule it in time to keep them. You don't spend $120 million on a movie just for rights.
I always felt that the failing of Hannibal Rising as a movie was that they did the usual Hollywood thing & left out the most interesting aspects from the book, focusing instead on the schlocky horror scenes.
You should've had the movie mother! on this list. The director made that movie just to take a bash at Christianity
Nothing wrong with that.
I can't believe Marvel screwed over Fox, again and again. Just so they can their other marvel properties back.
Battlefield Earth was made, because of Scientology. No disrespect to Scientology.
Despite Hellraiser Revelations and it's sequel ending the series on a mixed note. These films also featured Henry Cavil too. It was a "Hellraiser at home" vibe. Before there was popularity of movies at home with streaming services. This mark the end of the original Hellraiser film series. The 2022 Hellraiser remake. Is brand new iteration of the series. Not required to the original film and its sequels.
Uwe Boll used a tax loophole. Which gave the world attention. Okay. And no. Not for tax evasion or shady purposes. But rather for writing off taxes. As in either lower it, or paying the tax credits off. To justify paying taxes and the existence of tax loophole in recent years.
Manos: The Hands of Fate. The film was made on a bet and is commonly ranked as one of the worst movies ever made.
Cars 2 is great I don't care what anyone says..
This must be an old video re-uploaded because at beginning of this year a new Hellraiser movie has indeed came out and it could be considered a proper reboot. (and it's quite good,actually)
Yeah but it wasn't the same studio, Dimension lost the rights before they could do one of their own.
You talking about the Hulu Hellraiser? I personally throughly enjoyed it! I don't know the whole mythos of the franchise but I DO know all I heard on social media was people crying about how Pinhead was a female. People slammed the movie HARD bc of it. Again, I personally thought it was great! 🤷♂️
@@LordRain1031 I'm a fan of the original movies. At least of the first three. All I can say it's the better movie from the second. (Yes,all the other are quite shite but still). It's very well made, the plot it's quite good (for a horror movie) and overall its a funny experience. And about Pinhead.. technically is an interdimensional being so it doesn't have sex. And btw people are stupid, criticize something before even seeing it.
@@LordRain1031 I haven't seen anyone "slamming" it because pinhead is female. I don't know what sort of things you watch or read, but it is obviously filled with people that have no idea what they're talking about. Anybody that knows anything about the hellraiser universe was ok with it. Barker himself mentioned several times how it is a thing and everyone knows hes right. You are using social media yes? Maybe listening to people who are professional victims on both sides?
Don't care if wizard was a glorified ad I loved it.
Money talks, you know.
I agree!
Me to!
For #8, it still returned to them later anyway after Disney bought the company.
And the redheaded friend in The Wizard grew up to be Indie singer Jenny Lewis. ❣
I once read that Scientology lays it on thick when they're schmoozing their celebrity members. I would say I'm surprised they don't have more propaganda films with big stars. Now that I think of it though, perhaps they do but most of them are subtler.
How did you not do two entries for the Fantastic Four? Two FF movies with the same cynical reason for being made??? When I saw the first FF entry on your list I thought for sure #1 would be the Roger Corman FF film because it would be too funny not to do.
the one with the blonde lady and chris evens? because if it was that one then I liked it but if it was the other one aka the "fan made look" one then it was rubbish > fantastic four
@@aliceramdom.s Not the Chris Evans one. The very first FF movie ever made that was never officially released. It was made by low-budget film director Roger Corman with no plan of ever being released. Like the film on this list it was only made to keep the rights to the property from expiring. Oddly, some elements of the writing weren't bad and felt true to the comics. But the effects and other production values were horrible.
The only reason we went to the theater to see The Wizard was the product placement
Is there any kind of cynical list like this, but where the movies turn out to be good anyway?
If it takes a bad hell raiser film to take away a job from amber heard. It was a total win. We have an amazing reboot now anyway, so we all win.
There definitely is something wrong with trying to generate as much money as possible
I never liked remakes and reboots. They're just proof that Hollywood ran out of ideas
How about Birth of a Nation? A 1940s propaganda film made to put a positive spin on the KKK? If that isn't an awful reason to make a movie,I don't know what is.
1915? My mistake...still it was an awful movie.
Silly me. I always thought that "Blood Rayne" only existed for a nude scene, not because of a tax loophole.
It was a great nude scene indeed!
I would say several Z-movies where the director is the main actor were made to allow him to have a sexy scene with the main actress.
But twilight was successful in making a lot more money. Why is it number one for terrible reasons? Have more to fans and more jobs.
Dragon ball Evolution should be on this list.
Dragon Ball Evolution shouldn't be on ANY list of movies.
That would entail admitting it was a movie, and also that it exists.
I don’t get how Manhunter managed to be a flop.
It’s an excellent movie.
Agreed!
It was because of climate change.
apart from Brian Cox as Lector (not Lechter), it messed up RED DRAGON, changing a lot of details in a silly way, and threw in lots of silly action and noise.
Plenty of great films flop.
Disney ruined the
new Star Wars trilogy and fans hate that good characters died it is not alright .
They were made to spit in our faces.
At least the sequels weren’t made for the same reason that Battlefield Earth was made: to promote a harmful scam religion!
If you mean by deaths of "good characters", you mean Han, Luke and Leia, let me explain that.
Han Solo died in "The Force Awakens", for one simple reason- because Harrison Ford wanted him too.
Ford has wanted to kill off Han since "A New Hope".
It was written into "Empire Strikes Back" that Han be placed in carbonite, partly because George Lucas didn't know if Ford would agree to be in ROTJ, so if he hadn't, Han would have written out by "dying" from the Carbonite.
Ford wanted Lucas to kill off Han, but Lucas refused, as he saw "Star Wars" as family films, and they wouldn't want to see a hero die.
So when Disney approached Ford about TFA, he agreed to do it, if they killed off Han.
Luke got killed off, but do what. He was a Force ghost in the third one, and was in TROS more than when he was alive in TFA.
Leia died for one reason- Carrie Fisher died.
Fisher died while filming TROS, so she is missing from the second half of the film.
So don't blane Disney. Ons death is because the actor wanted it, another is because the actress died mid-film, and it isn't Disney's fault Carrie Fisher shortened her life from drug and alcohol use. Only Luke dying was Disney's idea, and he was a Force ghost anyway, so it does not really count.
Obi Wan died in 4, Han was 7’s Obi Wan
Yoda died early in 6, Luke was 8’s Yoda and died at the end of the movie
Leia died in 9 because her actress died
Agreed. "To punish the people who love the franchise and lecture them why they are bad people" is likely the worst reason to make a movie.
I enjoyed the first Cars movie, not so much the others after.
Sad that the very first low budget Fantastic Four movie is WAY better than the reboot, which I still refuse to watch the whole thing. Battlefield Earth is one of the only times I really REALLY wanted to leave the theater. Most of the audience couldn't stop laughing and riffing on it and thats why I stayed, live MST3K.
Come on now. Nintendo was pure genius with "The Wizard." Think about this. I didn't see the movies in theaters, probably bc I didn't watch TV and thus never saw trailers. However. The movie about video games to a 8 year old? The Wizard (for its time) was underrated and good. Does it hold up to today's "youth"?? Not a snowballs chance in hell! But for the kids that were around MY age at the time?? I didn't have a single friend that didn't love the movie! 😁😆
@@erakfishfishfish never watched Citizen Kane, I've heard the name but that's about it. I think I was between 9-10 years old when I rented it on VHS. Loved that movie as a kid!
Hmm..the 2015 Fantastic Four gets a mention, but not the 1994 unreleased Roger Corman version that was created for the exact same reason..???
Battlefield Earth was one of my dad's favorite books. I never read it. We walked out after ½hour.
Chances are, your Dad was a Scientologist. And a rabid one, at that. Those are the only ones who've ever had anything decent to say about that monstrosity
@@Hilz28 he was a fan of Hubbard's as far as sci-fi goes, but he was absolutely anti-cult.
I remember John Travolta saying that the movie is like Star Wars, but better!
@@sarreqteryx You're separating L. Ron Hubbard from a cult? Sorry, that doesn't work. The man was a psychotic delusional sociopath. Who took advantage of vulnerable, simple-minded people. Kind of a publicly known fact.
Prove me wrong. 🤷♀️
@@Hilz28 Not necessarily. Hubbard wrote some good classic sci-fi.
"Return to Tomorrow" is still one of my favs, and I have zip to do with any religion..
On the poo one i hope you are not joking i really hope your not
wouldnt be surprised if there were parents of kids that never saw the movie cars buying merch just because they had racecars on it
Considering how much in merchandising it made it's factually guaranteed alot of those sales were from parents or kids who have never even heard of Cars and still don't know what it is.
You merely have to put the name Uwe Boll on the screen for me to start groaning and swearing. All those great video games ruined by THAT man!
Trying to improve FIFA's image is, at this time, impossible, which means it's a waste of time.
With "The Hunt" appearing on the horror channel, I half expected it to be here with it's blatant Qanon leanings.
Manhunter was a good movie in my opinion. I had no idea it was considered a flop.
The FIFA propaganda movie was #1.... Splitting a final movie into two parts is a good idea if you have five hours of material.
Uwe boll is a menace
Roger Corman’s Fantastic Four has to top any list. It was made solely to retain IP rights with absolutely NO INTENTION to release as a feature...something nobody told the cast and crew until it was finished. The documentary “Doomed” tells the story in almost heart breaking detail.
I’m surprised they didn’t talk about this!
the one with the blonde lady and chris evens? because if it was that one then I liked it but if it was the other one aka the "fan made look" one then it was rubbish > fantastic four
Roger Corman's Fantastic Four was a far more blatant movie made merely for the purposes of retaining the rights than Josh Trank's was.
Ŕegarding Cars.
1) My son has EVERY Cars car from the original! He LOVED that movie.
2) I seem to be the only person who LIKES Cars 2. I find a spy movie using Cars to be so fun, and the movie itself enjoyable.
I have always really liked Cars 2 as well, so you aren't the only one. But I guess we are very few
The Hunger Games also did very well splitting their final movie into two parts
I swear we contributed half the money cars made from merchandise. 🤦🏻♀️ my kids wanted EVERYTHING cars. We had the cars bed set, about 4 of every character car, the race track, Doc Garage and more. We have a big extended family, and they was always what he wanted for birthdays and Christmas 🤷🏻♀️
I like cars 2.
I thought cars 2 was more exciting then the other ones to be honest and to me it felt james bond like but without the boring bits
The Transformers: The Movie (1986) was made for reasons similar to Cars 2. Hasbro wanted to promote the toys, the same way the animated tv series did, so Hasbro approved the production with a budget six times the budget of three episodes of the original tv series (the movie's budget is $6 million)
Three notable things about the movie: 1) Hasbro wanted to promote a new line of Transformers toys, so the writer was told to KILL all the original characters off AT THE BEGINNING. This led to criticism about the film's violence.
2) It's the last film Orson Welles made, and he didn't understand the story at all.
3) The movie is now a cult classic. Partly because of the quality, partly because of the violence at the start.
I have never heard of Hellraiser Revelations. I think I came across it on a video about ashcan copies. Yep, rushed out the door to maintain the rights. Despite how silly the reason on #6 is, I still liked that film. And hearing Cars merchandise sales being over 10 billion dollars, my jaw dropped! I am honestly shocked.
If Ghostbusters 2016 isn't on here, y'all failed.
Paul Feig: "I, a man, am so confident that women are funny, that I will hunt around for a franchise I can take over, and prove my point by giving my actressess no scripts to work from! They're funny! They can improv the whole thing! People are just bigots if they won't watch it! Wait, what's that you say!? Harold Ramis is dead? *KA-CHING!!!"*
Did Paul Frog actually make that statement? Or did you just make that up?
Maybe I could sum up your take as that you hate women and don't find them funny, and are angry because you can't get laid.
I'm thinking mostly to make money.
Battlefield Earth - one of the things that always bugged me about the in universe logic is how the hell did the Harriers still function after 1000 years with no maintenance?
And how had their tires not rotted away? And how was the fuel still good? And...
Really, the movie is one big blunder.
in the book, they trained on the same ships the aliens had, and had around 6 months to do so. I have no idea why they changed it.
They bought them from the same place as the jet in Wonder Woman '84...
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I'm gonna need you to get all the way off my back about that one.
Thats the power of dianetics baby!
"Greed is for amateurs"
Funny how that line came from a character called Top Dollar.
You can add “After Earth” with Will Smith to “Battlefield Earth” as a movie made to promote Scientology.
Also, Orion is pronounced “Oh-Ryan”. The studio was named after the mythological character.
Oh, by the way, all the folks were talking about Orion, the Amazon based studio that some great movies like The Terminator, RoboCop One and Two,
Dances with Wolves, both Bill & Ted flicks and The Silence of the Lambs. When Orion was filed for bankruptcy in 1992, the studio wasn't
sure they won't have another string of hits starting with Four Weddings and a Funeral, The Madness of King George, Carrington,
Dead Man Walking, Fargo and Ulee's Gold as well as TV series was Paternity Court on Bounce. Today, the Orion TV/film library was
now at the hands of Sony Pictures Television/TeleVentures since 1998 except Dead Man Walking was now at the hands of Viacom
since 2000.
I'm not entirely sure that is correct. The story was written by M. Night Shyamalan based on an idea by Will Smith. The two are friends (or they became friends around that time), but the film itself has nothing about scientology in it, not as far as I can tell. It's still a really bad movie, the same way that all stories by L. Ron Hubbard are crap, so that's pretty much all they have in common. But just because it's a turd doesn't mean it was crapped by the same crazy lunatic.
@@gildardorivasvalles6368 Neither would I
how did you miss Roger Corman fantastic 4
The 2022 Hellraiser was actually kinda good C:
I went in with low expectation, and was pleasantly surprised. It was pretty good.
@@thomascollette6322 Yeah, I love the design of the cenobites
Orion: O-rye-on
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I liked Hannibal Rising
Fox wasn't being cynical from stopping marvel to make movies. It was Marvel's CEO Ike Perlmutter, who wasn't happy that marvel still doesn't have the rights to the Fantastic Four and the X-Men.
I enjoyed The Wizard. It had video game references. I glad I didn't see 1993's Super Mario Bros. Movie. Um.. I rather forget about that film. Heh.😅
Did you know? The Walking Dead show used a tax loophole shelter by Georgia Peach. Tax Loophole Shelter was known for being used in Germany. And Then, the rest of the world uses today. Tax Loophole Shelter still exists today.
I give these films on this list. A pass, and credit where credit to due. As a last resort and chance at it. I think The Emoji Movie was one of the most movies made, for ridiculous and cynical purposes.
I don't consider the Eragon film, as cynical. I like the fast pace route. I read the book as a child. I found it slow at times. When the film came out, I was in middle school. I was no longer a child anymore. I was going near my path to adolescent hood. In order to reach my path to young adult hood. I wish Fox had some involvement with the remake, than having Disney handle everything. As I known, let book adaptations either be film or tv. There's no forcing it on either format, let it be what it wants to be. Whether the author of the source material is involved or doesn't want to. Be what you want it to become.
Why Harvey and Bob Weinstein. Have a Grudge Against The Hollywood System.
Looking forward to another 25 years in the business, the brothers have already sought backing from several Wall Street firms. Of course, they will have to find a new name, as Miramax, which is derived from those of their parents, Miriam and Max, is being kept by Disney. But the often-volatile Harvey Weinstein is again thinking big. At the pre-Oscar party, he ended the evening by saying, "We've just begun to fight."
Correction: March 7, 2005, Monday Because of a production error, a Page 1 article in some copies yesterday about the breakup of the business relationship between the Walt Disney Company and the founders of Miramax Films omitted a passage at the continuation. The affected section should have read:
"The story behind the Disney-Miramax breakup, on one level, is about money and ego. The 12-year relationship went the way of many famous Hollywood marriages: infatuation, then betrayal and, expected soon, a divorce with a rich settlement.
"But it is also a morality play with important lessons. It was not enough for the Weinsteins to make great movies -- Disney wanted those movies to reap lots of money, too. What bothered Mr. Eisner most, said representatives from both sides, was that Disney had unwittingly put together a deal that, in later years, so richly compensated the Weinsteins at Disney's expense." Big mistake there Disney, big mistake. No wonder the weinsteins are split form Disney. They won this debate in the end.
The Wizard was a core part of my childhood
As a child of the 80's I thoroughly loved "The Wizard" but now as an adult it is a very obvious Nintendo ad.
The last game is a new game (Super Mario 3) and then Jimmy's friends know everything about the game suddenly...GEEZ FRED SAVAGE! Enter this contest yourself instead of having your autistic friend do it for you!
10:45 There is actually a Hellraiser reboot from 2022 which didn't completely suck.
My dad and I both loved the Battlefield Earth book and were INCREDIBLY disappointed by the movie.
When it was coming out, a lot of entertainment shows were saying Battlefield Earth was going to be the next Star Wars. And if you think the movie is so-bad-it's-good, you should listen to the DVD commentary.
This also wasn't the first time a Fantastic Four movie was made to prevent Rights returning an IP holder. A Fantastic Four movie was made in 94. It was so bad, they never released it. It cam be viewed in it's entirety on TH-cam. That time though, the Rights would revert to Marvel, who regrettably sold Rights to various Books in hopes of dealing with their financial woes & also the hope that they could have a cultural phenomenon like Batman 89. This is why FOX had the Rights to X-Men & Sony the Rights to Spiderman.
Red Dragon is based of the same story as Manhunter. The Ena Gadda Divida ending to Manhunter was due to the budget running out & no more money allotted to finish the film. It's not a terrible movie. Gene Hackman option the Rights for Silence of the Lambs & wanted to play Lector. The flop of Manhunter already made studios think the sequel in the book series would be a bad idea. But it still got made.
The 1990’s Fantastic Four was made for the same reason! I don’t think it was ever officially released but if you think the 2015 version was bad it looks like peak marvel by comparison. Great bad movie watch! 😂
Evolution: to market a shampoo containing selenium.
To be fair though, the movie was entertaining and enjoyable, and the cast delivered the comedy well.
It’s kinda foreshadowing that Universal would collaborate with Nintendo way before we got the present day Mario Movie made by Illumination.
Rumour has it that Amber Heard would be playing a real life version of herself, but less evil. The real reason the film never took off was because she couldn’t make it to makeup to have all the pins put in her head. She did call ahead though, and said something about leaving a present in her boyfriend’s bed. Lucky guy! I wonder what she got him?
On one hand, I feel absolutely awful for all the Fox employees who got laid off after Disney bought them, especially studios Fox owned like Blue Sky and for this to happen so close to COVID is even more disheartening. On the other side of things, the executives that made Fantastic Four movies just to keep the rights TWICE and the second time around, to keep them away from a studio they knew would execute them so much better, all while screwing over the filmmakers, as far as I care, they got what they deserved. Consider that the one time I support Disney monopolizing a company.
Hannibal Rising literally doesn't exist, as far as I'm concerned. Hannibal Lecter does not have some traumatizing past that made him the way he is. He's not crazy or traumatized. He's unique. He simply sees the world in a completely different way and his actions all make moral and ethical sense from within his worldview. That's what makes him so terrifying and unpredictable.
I will defend The Wizard. While it was a blatant Nintendo product placement, it wasn't a bad movie.
I don't think Fantastic 4(2015) was absolute garbage, it is pretty bad but it had some interesting ideas at least in my opinion. The visuals were actually pretty good and the cast was actually really good. How they handled 'don't use Marvel Comics things' was interesting, it wasn't good but seeing how you can take something from someone else and put your own spin on it was interesting. The story and the whole air of the project that was terrible. It was made to be made not because there was passion for the work. This is a case where I don't blame the actors at all, Kate Mara was literally told not to read the Marvel Comics to learn about the character because they couldn't use anything from them. I did like all the cast and think they did their best with such terrible work.
the one with the blonde lady and chris evens? because if it was that one then I liked it but if it was the other one aka the "fan made look" one then it was rubbish
@@aliceramdom.s You're thinking Fantastic Four (2005) with Jessica Alba and Chris Evans. I was not.
Battlefield Earth, the novel, is nearly unreadable. The movie actually ends at around the half way mark of the book, which is ironically where I finally put it down out of boredom and frustration
Hellraiser 3 onward just aren't part of the franchise, in my head cannon. There are the original two films, and then there is this separate collection of human feces, two of which managed to get Doug Bradly to appear in them. The reboot was a welcome breath of fresh air. I genuinely want more of Jamie Clayton's Hell Priest.
That Winnie the Pooh movie was shit lol most god awful movie and that's saying something because I haven't seen a good movie since 2020. Will most definitely not be seeing the abortion of a sequel nor the other movies the director will poop out
8:43 Hey, Tobey Maguire! *Pointing Leonardo DiCaprio meme*
The Wizard: The only movie in history to feature 11-year-old cigarette girls. Who thought that was a good idea?
Fant4stic wasn't even the only F4 movie made solely to hold onto the rights, it's just the only one that got released legally.
I completely love the Wizard with my whole chest. Even as a child I knew what it was, but I didn't care. I totally connected with the characters and the story, and I still love it to this day.
the TIM STORY
fantastic 4 movies
were great
this list is laughable, most of these reasons aren't even "terrible," outside of United Passions and maybe the tax loophole, if most of these entries are like how the description describes them, sneezing on set is a criminal offense.
LMAO 😂😂😂 theirs a far cry movie yeah I'll pass
I am waiting for somebody to say Ewe Boll’s movies are the worst thing Germany has done. 😜
They should totally let fantastic four go to marvel. Maybe your movies would be better