Great impartial and objective video - from the owner of the competition! Looking forward to your other videos. So far, my preference would be fit and finish and ride quality over range and for that, the P2 is ahead. Fortunately the P2 is what I have ordered and like you, I decided against the performance pack. The Model 3 is a great car - but it has its own deficiencies - drivers have to decide what their preferences are and go with that. Either car will be a great choice and the right fit for different people.
When the Tesla charges it just charges. No silly drops in power with battery voltage way below limits. It is 100% pure amps limited from 10-40% allowing actual power to gradually increase during this period as voltage on pack rises. During this period it is not voltage limiting the pack at all.
@@1kreature you're kidding right? The tesla quoted figures are a headline. Mine ramps up to around a max of 123 kw stays there for seconds and then ramps back down. It's fast enough but don't kid yourself that you get sustained rates at a high figure.
Another excellent video, Bradley - thank you. I guess we anticipated the consumption difference, but the comparison of the two semi-autonomous systems didn’t give best to the Tesla, as I thought it might. And the noise level difference was a real surprise. Look forward to your further comparison, but feeling pretty pleased that we went for the Polestar so far!
Thanks, yes I totally agree. I was worried that having a Tesla for a few days would mean I'd need to convince my wife to get the model 3 as her next car but to be honest I'm not feeling that way at all. She's more keen on the Kia Soul and I'd be happy with that! The Tesla range is very impressive though.
@@ShortCircuitPS2 That is great, I already suspected you wouldn't change a thing...but nice to hear that difference. I thought the Model 3 was quite already (coming from a diesel V40 D4) but the P2 is on another level!
If I was going to judge the noise level from this video alone, I would have to point the glaring fact that when the polestar was driving, there was no interior sound recorded.
This is fascinating. I Started off wanting a P2, couldn't get a test drive, got put off by the stated range/efficiency. In the meantime test drove an M3 loved it and ordered one. The charging network and efficiency are a big draw.
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I am definitely going to follow this. Just a couple of notes... #1: My cad got the face lifted 2021 Model 3 and I appreciate that it’s difficult to tell through video, but I am pretty sure that it’s quieter than the Model 3 you have. You can start hearing a bit of wind whistle from the frameless windows at motorway speeds, but there definitely seems to be less road noise (previously owned a BMW 3, X3, X5, and its comparable to those cars). #2: Some people say Tesla made the suspension on 2021 models softer. But there is no way to confirm I guess. #3: Just imagine the efficiency for the Tesla’s with the heat pump. #4: The phantom braking can be quite annoying. Unfortunately, my guess is that Tesla put the sensitivity through the roof after the accidents where people were not paying attention. Would be nice to know whether you experienced anything similar in the Polestar.
As far as the noise, what tires are installed on the car? I thought my Model Y was quiet, but I recently installed a nail in the front left one a little too close to the side wall. So, I replaced the 2 front tires with Bridgestone Turenza QuietTracks.....the sound from the front was noticeably less. I don't know if Tesla's Continental ProContacts get noisier as the tread wears down, or if the QuietTracks are that much better. I know that I chose them for their noise rating and their snow rating. They are generally much better tires than the ones that came with the car. I am replacing the rear ones next weekend. And yes, the suspensions are tight and sporty on the Model 3 and Model Y. They were designed to handle and drive like sports cars. Elon said this during the Model Y reveal event. I look forward to your honest comparisons. Another great video!
As a Model 3 owner i think i would mostly agree with your evaluation here: - The Polestar is quieter. They have improved the noise issue a bit for the Model 3 2021 model, but it's still not great. - The Polestar does ride more comfortably. The Model 3 is definitely a bit "crashy" over bumps, the Polestar a bit better refined. - The visibility is amazingly good, except that the drivers side A-pillar tends to get in the way at roundabouts - The realtime display of traffic is just astonishing. With the FSD option it stops for traffic lights, displays whether they are red or green, and even beeps after they turn green to remind you to move. My experience with the lane-keeping on the Polestar was not so positive though - i found it tended to "bounce" a little up the lane. Definitely prefer the Tesla, though i'd really like them to tune out the phantom braking. Remember that the Tesla system is under very serious ongoing development, and will probably improve a lot faster than the Polestar pilot assist. I'm looking forward to your opinion on the windscreen wiper setup in the Model 3, and of the stalks in general.
Just completed a 640+ mile trip from Gloucestershire to the NW Highlands of Scotland. Needed four charge stops (one of which was overnight) which worked out at about every 2hrs driving time. I used Google Maps and then Zap Map to plan route. I entered filters and car name with conservative figure for likely miles to a charge. Google Maps changed how far we could go whilst charging, which allowed me to miss out one back up stop I had planned. So I left home at 100% got to Warrington - Lymm Services - charged from 25% to 80% on Ecotricity 50KWh CCS (free) ; then went to Gretna Green Services and charged from 21% to 96% on Ionity Charger. Charged at Ionity in Perth on arrival to 96% (overnight stay) then a quick top up 30 - 80% at Tomitan Distillery (!) Charge place Scotland 50KWH CCS (Free with charge place Scotland membership. Road conditions were terrible on the way up to Perth with non stop rain, surface water and a temperature of 9c most of the way. The next day was cold 6c but dry. So in actual fact did not stop more often than I would have normally for this trip, although the stops were longer but probably better to stop and have a break and a drink rather than an in and out which I was prone to do in ICE days.
Excellent timing - still can't decide between the Model 3 and the Polestar (I think it's the Polestar if I'm honest!), so looking forward to watching this one!
What a pity P2 doesn't have a similar red to Tesla. I mentioned this to the UK Ceo when I looked at the Car in November at Westfield shopping centre nevertheless I'm due to have delivery of my midnight blue P2 in a few weeks.Thanks for another great video.
I'm only 9:32 into the video and could already tell you where going to comment on the ride quality and noise levels. This is exactly my assessment of the M3. Very interesting video Brad! I have a P2 with PP and SW update tomorrow for three days (Polestar only do three days at a time, unlike every other makers who lends you the cars for a week), so I can't wait to test the consumption and range 😊 Keep up the good work mate!
Thanks Kris, looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the PP! Now I need to try to figure out how to get hold of the press cars, I don't really want to have to pay to hire one every time.
Regarding the difference in efficiency, you must not forget that the PS 2 does initial heating of the battery while driving, the Tesla Model 3 does not. So on short distances that will negativly influence the efficiency of the PS 2. Also the Tesla M3 is very noisy and the driving is not that good comparing to the PS 2. That is among other things why i gave the Tesla Model 3 back within the 7 days returning window and i do not regret driving a PS2 PP now.
Looking forward to seeing your other videos, as a Model 3 owner it's been fun to see your reports on PS2, and it'll be nice to see your take on my car :)
White interior in Tesla is just fine to keep clean. Done 30K in mine with two kids and they are perfect still (just wiped over once with a damp cloth and a bit of washing up liquid).
An interesting & honest comparison. Like you l am instantly put off & turn off any video where the producer starts quoting facts and figures straight from manufacturers websites with no explanations or real world experiences. Tesla's figures always appear so much better than other manufacturers, when in fact Tesla use a different method to calculate range. Bizarrely the EPA allow this but this is very rarely pointed out. Tesla's are efficient, but there is no magic sauce. Personally it was the noise & poor build quality on the model l drove that put me off.
Extra weight in the Polestar 2 due to more sound damping might affect range figures. But I would rather have more silence - I could really hear that road noise coming through your mic.
Definitely a nice first impressions video, would like to see some charging speed tests and also if there is noticeable rattling noises etc.. I tried two diff. model S (2017/2019) and two diff. model 3 cars (2018/2019) and they all had quite bad rattling noises.. at the end ordered the XC40 because of those rattling and higher road noises, and of course build quality hasn't been the best, but they sure seem to be really efficient EV's.
Regarding ‘Autopilot’ because v little pressure is needed on the steering wheel to keep it happy, I find that it is actually an advantage to be able to disengage it easily. There is no need to make any steering corrections as it is so good at keeping in middle of the lane, as you mentioned you had to in the P2. BTW, the screen looks much nicer in colour if you switch to satellite view on the map.
Great to see a fair, level headed review of the Tesla. I think a lot of Tesla videos suffer from 'fanboy' syndrome, so it's refreshing to watch a real world review. The road noise in Tesla's has a lot to do with the single ply glass. I understand all newer versions have double ply glass which apparently cuts down the noise significantly.
Great comparison video! As a Model 3 owner I agree it can be noisy when driving at speed. The suspension is definitely tuned for a sportier drive, which can get a little annoying on long trips, but I still prefer it for spirited driving. Also a tip for Autopilot, just rest your right elbow on the armrest and your right hand at 4'oclock on the wheel, and let the weight of your arm apply enough force to keep the system happy. This way you should never get any nags from the system, and you can relax. Does this car come with the FSD package? If so you should try out Navigate on Autopilot.
Always difficult to make fair comparisons. One difference to consider is if you want an AWD. Polestar 2 has full-time AWD possibly 60/40 rear/front power distribution. Model 3 is mostly RWD. Only uses front wheels for first 5 seconds of a launch, as a method of traction control where it kicks in the front drive if rears slip and for heating the battery. So obviously, the Model 3 will use less power.
Great review. Recommend using a db meter to compare because it’s clearly noisier than the Polestar. The comparison I would love to see is against the XC40 recharge because I wouldn’t consider a Tesla due to long term maintenance and repair ... as there are no Tesla shops anywhere near us. No doubt your dealer would be happy to help with a Recharge comparison...
Good initial comparison. I agree that the M3 weak points are ride comfort and road and wind noise at higher speeds. Does this M3 have FSD? If so, can you comment on lane change on motorways? Thanks for making this comparison...
Thanks for the review. Are you sure that your Tesla has the enhanced autopilot system or just the included one? I have seen great differences in behavior both on highways and small roads ore city streets.
Tesla autopilot is NOT supposed to be used other than on a motorway. I have stopped using it because it disengaged when you respond to requests to apply gentle steering. Cruise control is also not great due to repeated phantom braking, ie emergency stops on the motorway. My own fault for not researching the car properly before buying
Off topic; I just charged for the first time since the new update and I got wildly stable high charging rates compared to before. Charging upwards of 400km/h at 55% still (which in my calculations is around 125KW). Did you notice the same after your update?
Thanks, yes good to hear. Yes I did, I managed a charge when temp was about 6 degrees and hit 300m/hr which I'd not seen before. Definitly seems a bit quicker
Couple of questions - If you’re streaming music from your phone, can you not skip tracks on the screen/steering wheel? Does it even show whats playing on the screen? And for navigation does it show lane guidance - eg ‘be in this lane for the next turning’ with a little graphic to help you position yourself? Can’t remember if I’ve ever seen that on a Tesla but for me thats really valuable for satnav
Dead right about pilot assist you actually have to steer to prevent it beeping. It’s basically a volvo so I can’t understand why it doesn’t behave like one in this aspect
If Polestar uses the Volvo Pilot Assist, you can just tap on it to the music beat to prevent the hold the steering wheel notification. The thing I do would like to see improved in the Volvo Pilot Assist around town; yes you can use it around town and to a full stop; tap the steering wheel button to reengage Pilot Assist and move off from a stop... I do not like that the speed is constant if no car in front is being tracked by the system, the cornering on a relatively tight bend is not great imo in my XC60. Yes, it's a pseudo-SUV on air suspension, but would appreciate it if the Pilot Assist would slow down for certain bends. That's probably a higher level of vehicle autonomy?! Just my opinion. Best car seats in any car I have had!
I would imagine the latest MY Tesla 3 would be quieter, as I understand they made improvements to the door seals and added double glazed front windows, in addition to various improvements in the cabin trim and centre console. How did you find the build quality fit and finish of the Tesla, as that is always the big issue with their cars. By the way whilst mentioning the latest MY, as I understand the battery efficiency has been improved with the addition of a heat pump. Finally I would add I'm not an owner or a member of the Tesla fan club!!!
Thanks, the interior of the model 3 is very nice however there are some very noticeable panel gaps, the worst I've ever seen! I've watched a few noise comparison videos and most seem to show very little improvement with the new update.
another great video ! i really dont like the tesla... beside the seats that are looking fake (that headrest, is that serious ? lol) but you can definitely hear how noisy is compared to the P2 ! great job Bradley like always !
I'm in Australia and I had a Polestar (the fast petrol one), so I was dead keen to get a Polestar 2. Alas our draconian government is owned by the fossil fuel industry, so we'll have to wait a while. Meanwhile I bought a Model 3 Performance, which would be about the same price as the P2 when it gets here. Your review had reinforced my thought to buy the Tesla now and look at the P2 in a few years. It will mean bugs are ironed out and I can see what the depreciation will be like on both. The Polestar was a disaster in that respect. Everything you said so far gels with my experience. One thing that puts me off the P2 is the claustrophobic cabin. The high console and small glass house makes it tight. My Volvo was also tight for space and on long drives the floating centre console was impinging on my space when on cruise control and I wanted to pull my leg back a bit. The Tesla is so open inside it feels like a much larger car. Also storage is very limited on the P2 which was an issue for me before too. What I really loved about my Volvo was the lovely finish inside and out. I am very happy with my TM3 after a year, but it will be interesting to see how it goes after 5.
Great video - it's interesting to hear your first impressions and look forward to hearing more. For me the Tesla M3 wins on range & charging and the Polestar 2 wins on quality and fit and finish. Just hearing that road noise and the cheaper looking white roof lining, instantly shows where the TM3 falls down.
Tested the mustang mach e tesla model3 at the same day and the noice in the tesla are so much more. Tested the polestar a couple of days later and there werent alot of noice there. Maybe its the 500 kg that makes the polestar more silent?
Regarding noise, couple of tests done already: th-cam.com/video/oXZei_2MiPI/w-d-xo.html tldw: in absolute dB terms, they are a hair's breadth from each other. One car may have its frequency peak at a more noticable level to the ear, however.
You're making the distance calcs more difficult than they need to be surely. Just convert whpm into miles per KwH (200 whpm = 5 mpkWh etc) and multiply by the battery capacity. In fact, I think all cars should report in mpkwH as this is closest to MPG and is most familiar in the UK, and where a higher number is better (i.e it's more natural for UK owner anyway to think of 5mpkWh being better than 4mpkWh, in the same way 50mpg is better than 40mpg).
I don't think I'm making it more difficult at all. I'm doing a one step calculation, battery capacity / consumption = range. Super simple in my opinion but other people might prefer a different method.
Really? You feel like you have to put alot of input on the steering wheel? I only lightly touch my knee on the bottom and it's already registering. I found the Model 3 input to be much larger (was a while back since I drove one). Same with hands, barely need to touch the wheel for it to register my hands.
Where exactly do you touch the steering wheel? I‘ve seen others complain about having to give a lot of input. The response may depend on where you touch it...
That is very interesting, I noticed on a video Kris Rifa did that he had to move the wheel a lot on the Polestar, even more than mine. Perhaps there is a difference between cars that really should be there.
There's a lot of EVs that drive better than the Tesla, but nothing has really gotten close to their efficiency. It can't be long before other manufacturers catch up there though. Give it 3 years.
Fair comparison, but it's a shame that the comparison was not with the 2021 model with the double glazed front windows re the noise. It sounds like you didn't test drive a Tesla M3 before buying your P2. Will be interesting when you go back to your P2 that you will/would miss the app, charging infrastructure and efficiency.
The app is very good and I hope the Polestar one meets the same standard! I've watched a few noise test videos most seem to show that the noise improvements on the new car are barely noticeable.
@Mole Patrol - The double glazed windows will help reduce wind noise, but most of the noise, vibration and harshness (NVH) comes through other parts of the car. The additional 300kg of weight the P2 carries around, possibly includes better/more insulation.
@@SDK2006b yes interesting how each car has its merits. The extra weight gives you better insulation and ride. I was torn but having had a previous electric car I found the charging infrastructure the bane for medium and longer trips. Sacrifice the ride for the better updated tech and efficiency of the Tesla. Sounds to me like the p2 is a very good car that was released before the tech was ready. That would annoy the hell out of me paying that much and still waiting for the app , 4G to be corrected, and OTA needing visits to a dealer.
Tesla has a horrific interior. Don't sell me IPhone minimalism when you're realy giving me cheap, plastic parts. Seats are extremely cheap as well. P2 was one of the best EVs I've driven,but I prefer the leather over the vegan. Take the P2 on the mountain roads and it really shines
I own a Model Y. I think that the vegan is rather nice material. However, I am still eating steaks for dinner, so......what happened to all the hides that my steaks were wearing? That's the mystery.
Two reasons, I couldn't get hold of the 2021 model so decided to do this with the car I was able to get. To add to that, there are improvements to the new Tesla like heat pump, some noise improvements (although many tests show it makes little difference) but it's still very much the same car. It's a minor revision, not a total re-design.
Tesla are constantly updating their cars, almost monthly there are hardware & software changes/improvements added and some are more visible than others. This is great in one sense but as a buyer it’s often hard to know which version of the car you’re getting. The recent update revised the interior which makes it easier to identify but the majority of continuous changes are made under the skin.
With all the zillion billion valuation, why can't Tesla do better job on the insulation, builds and can sacrifice a bit of range and still have the fantastic chargers infrastructure.
It's a shame your not in a Refresh Model 3, it's much more quiet. I believe your range figure will go up as my 80% charge range is 318mi. Regarding ride, I feel the bumpy road but I describe it as eliminating the harsh edges. The glass roof is so dark as to be useless for enjoyable viewing. It may be better in the back seat but for me, I never look up. It's very strong and I like it for that reason only.
That is rubbish. Bjorn Nyland tested this. The only difference between the old and new is the double paned front side windows. Noise Level is the same.
@@fishndive1961 Tesla is a very different car maker to those we are used to, so the Model 3 you are odering right now, may be allready different to the one you order just a weak later. Tesla updates their cars along the line, rather than waiting for a new model change and they hardly lose a word about it. So allthough the cars look exactly the same, there maybe allready changes made to the car ordered just a week later. This unfortunately works both ways though, some people who had ordered their Model 3 still had the ambient lighting, and without saying a single word or mentioning it on their website they got rid of it ! It is possible that some Model 3 refreshs shipped with additional sound insulation while others didn't. Just as some came with the new headlights and others despite having the new center console still came with the old headlights, or where missing the double glass pane front windows. Others again came with the old center console, but allready were featuring the new headlights. Tesla doesn't give a f.... about what the customer thinks about things like that, they just do whatever they please to !
@@netsraccjf3965 yes I understand that. I've had mine over a year and I am a member of a Tesla owners' club so we are always looking at the changes. One thing we all know is that they are all as noisy as each other on the same wheels.
Tesla the company & its CEO are huge turn-offs for various reasons. I love EVs and have driven everything from a i3S to the I-Pace and love your Polestar 2 (even debating on a purchase) but honestly screw Tesla.
The Polestar looks incredibly drab in comparison to the Tesla, no imagination in that interior design whatsoever. Personal view but it’s very subjective anyway
@@MrDead1975 Arguably a visionary decision in light most other manufacturers have followed suit in one guise or another - a Tesla makes you feel like you are driving something futuristic by its minimal interior, the Polar looks just like every other car out there, 2021 needn’t be so dull
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Great impartial and objective video - from the owner of the competition! Looking forward to your other videos. So far, my preference would be fit and finish and ride quality over range and for that, the P2 is ahead. Fortunately the P2 is what I have ordered and like you, I decided against the performance pack. The Model 3 is a great car - but it has its own deficiencies - drivers have to decide what their preferences are and go with that. Either car will be a great choice and the right fit for different people.
I expect the supercharging experience will be one of the biggest differences you find
When the Tesla charges it just charges. No silly drops in power with battery voltage way below limits.
It is 100% pure amps limited from 10-40% allowing actual power to gradually increase during this period as voltage on pack rises. During this period it is not voltage limiting the pack at all.
@@1kreature you're kidding right? The tesla quoted figures are a headline. Mine ramps up to around a max of 123 kw stays there for seconds and then ramps back down. It's fast enough but don't kid yourself that you get sustained rates at a high figure.
Another excellent video, Bradley - thank you. I guess we anticipated the consumption difference, but the comparison of the two semi-autonomous systems didn’t give best to the Tesla, as I thought it might. And the noise level difference was a real surprise. Look forward to your further comparison, but feeling pretty pleased that we went for the Polestar so far!
Thanks, yes I totally agree. I was worried that having a Tesla for a few days would mean I'd need to convince my wife to get the model 3 as her next car but to be honest I'm not feeling that way at all. She's more keen on the Kia Soul and I'd be happy with that! The Tesla range is very impressive though.
My main reason to buy a Tesla, if I switch to EVs, is autopilot and I thank you for your review, it was helpful...
I can hear the background noise difference! Can't wait for my Polestar to arrive in June!
Yes, it's so much noisier and I'm using exactly the same microphone and no difference in audio processing
@@ShortCircuitPS2 That is great, I already suspected you wouldn't change a thing...but nice to hear that difference. I thought the Model 3 was quite already (coming from a diesel V40 D4) but the P2 is on another level!
Wow noise in the model 3 is ridiculous
If I was going to judge the noise level from this video alone, I would have to point the glaring fact that when the polestar was driving, there was no interior sound recorded.
@@bearlemley I've watched nearly all his Polestar vids, you'll hear the difference
This is fascinating. I Started off wanting a P2, couldn't get a test drive, got put off by the stated range/efficiency. In the meantime test drove an M3 loved it and ordered one. The charging network and efficiency are a big draw.
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I am definitely going to follow this. Just a couple of notes...
#1: My cad got the face lifted 2021 Model 3 and I appreciate that it’s difficult to tell through video, but I am pretty sure that it’s quieter than the Model 3 you have. You can start hearing a bit of wind whistle from the frameless windows at motorway speeds, but there definitely seems to be less road noise (previously owned a BMW 3, X3, X5, and its comparable to those cars).
#2: Some people say Tesla made the suspension on 2021 models softer. But there is no way to confirm I guess.
#3: Just imagine the efficiency for the Tesla’s with the heat pump.
#4: The phantom braking can be quite annoying. Unfortunately, my guess is that Tesla put the sensitivity through the roof after the accidents where people were not paying attention. Would be nice to know whether you experienced anything similar in the Polestar.
As far as the noise, what tires are installed on the car? I thought my Model Y was quiet, but I recently installed a nail in the front left one a little too close to the side wall. So, I replaced the 2 front tires with Bridgestone Turenza QuietTracks.....the sound from the front was noticeably less. I don't know if Tesla's Continental ProContacts get noisier as the tread wears down, or if the QuietTracks are that much better. I know that I chose them for their noise rating and their snow rating. They are generally much better tires than the ones that came with the car. I am replacing the rear ones next weekend.
And yes, the suspensions are tight and sporty on the Model 3 and Model Y. They were designed to handle and drive like sports cars. Elon said this during the Model Y reveal event.
I look forward to your honest comparisons. Another great video!
As a Model 3 owner i think i would mostly agree with your evaluation here:
- The Polestar is quieter. They have improved the noise issue a bit for the Model 3 2021 model, but it's still not great.
- The Polestar does ride more comfortably. The Model 3 is definitely a bit "crashy" over bumps, the Polestar a bit better refined.
- The visibility is amazingly good, except that the drivers side A-pillar tends to get in the way at roundabouts
- The realtime display of traffic is just astonishing. With the FSD option it stops for traffic lights, displays whether they are red or green, and even beeps after they turn green to remind you to move.
My experience with the lane-keeping on the Polestar was not so positive though - i found it tended to "bounce" a little up the lane. Definitely prefer the Tesla, though i'd really like them to tune out the phantom braking. Remember that the Tesla system is under very serious ongoing development, and will probably improve a lot faster than the Polestar pilot assist.
I'm looking forward to your opinion on the windscreen wiper setup in the Model 3, and of the stalks in general.
Just completed a 640+ mile trip from Gloucestershire to the NW Highlands of Scotland. Needed four charge stops (one of which was overnight) which worked out at about every 2hrs driving time. I used Google Maps and then Zap Map to plan route. I entered filters and car name with conservative figure for likely miles to a charge. Google Maps changed how far we could go whilst charging, which allowed me to miss out one back up stop I had planned. So I left home at 100% got to Warrington - Lymm Services - charged from 25% to 80% on Ecotricity 50KWh CCS (free) ; then went to Gretna Green Services and charged from 21% to 96% on Ionity Charger. Charged at Ionity in Perth on arrival to 96% (overnight stay) then a quick top up 30 - 80% at Tomitan Distillery (!) Charge place Scotland 50KWH CCS (Free with charge place Scotland membership. Road conditions were terrible on the way up to Perth with non stop rain, surface water and a temperature of 9c most of the way. The next day was cold 6c but dry. So in actual fact did not stop more often than I would have normally for this trip, although the stops were longer but probably better to stop and have a break and a drink rather than an in and out which I was prone to do in ICE days.
Excellent timing - still can't decide between the Model 3 and the Polestar (I think it's the Polestar if I'm honest!), so looking forward to watching this one!
If you do lots of long journeys it has to be the Tesla. Sadly other networks just aren’t good enough yet.
@@arribus30 I don't and I have home charging so I think Polestar has the edge for me.
Just use ionity
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Having recently handed back a Volvo XC40 (which is what the P2 is based on) I wanted to scratch the Tesla itch!
What a pity P2 doesn't have a similar red to Tesla. I mentioned this to the UK Ceo when I looked at the Car in November at Westfield shopping centre nevertheless I'm due to have delivery of my midnight blue P2 in a few weeks.Thanks for another great video.
The recent refresh of the Tesla Model 3 has greatly improved the road noise issue. The FSD Beta is a big improvement of the self-driving features.
I'm only 9:32 into the video and could already tell you where going to comment on the ride quality and noise levels. This is exactly my assessment of the M3. Very interesting video Brad! I have a P2 with PP and SW update tomorrow for three days (Polestar only do three days at a time, unlike every other makers who lends you the cars for a week), so I can't wait to test the consumption and range 😊 Keep up the good work mate!
Thanks Kris, looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the PP! Now I need to try to figure out how to get hold of the press cars, I don't really want to have to pay to hire one every time.
Regarding the difference in efficiency, you must not forget that the PS 2 does initial heating of the battery while driving, the Tesla Model 3 does not. So on short distances that will negativly influence the efficiency of the PS 2. Also the Tesla M3 is very noisy and the driving is not that good comparing to the PS 2. That is among other things why i gave the Tesla Model 3 back within the 7 days returning window and i do not regret driving a PS2 PP now.
Looking forward to seeing your other videos, as a Model 3 owner it's been fun to see your reports on PS2, and it'll be nice to see your take on my car :)
Really enjoyed this. Your videos are so helpful in forming a view of whether to take the plunge on electric and if so for what car. Thanks.
White interior in Tesla is just fine to keep clean. Done 30K in mine with two kids and they are perfect still (just wiped over once with a damp cloth and a bit of washing up liquid).
An interesting & honest comparison. Like you l am instantly put off & turn off any video where the producer starts quoting facts and figures straight from manufacturers websites with no explanations or real world experiences. Tesla's figures always appear so much better than other manufacturers, when in fact Tesla use a different method to calculate range. Bizarrely the EPA allow this but this is very rarely pointed out. Tesla's are efficient, but there is no magic sauce. Personally it was the noise & poor build quality on the model l drove that put me off.
Also please check out; phantom braking and auto wipers and headlight performance. Thanks!
Extra weight in the Polestar 2 due to more sound damping might affect range figures.
But I would rather have more silence - I could really hear that road noise coming through your mic.
Definitely a nice first impressions video, would like to see some charging speed tests and also if there is noticeable rattling noises etc.. I tried two diff. model S (2017/2019) and two diff. model 3 cars (2018/2019) and they all had quite bad rattling noises.. at the end ordered the XC40 because of those rattling and higher road noises, and of course build quality hasn't been the best, but they sure seem to be really efficient EV's.
The sound quality of your commentary in the Tesla, due to road roar, was much worse than in the P2.
How can you know that (he didn't make any commentary whilst the P2 was moving)?
What an awesome review! Like how honest and open minded you are. Editing is on point as well, keep it up and you will have a big channel someday☺️
Thank you so much for the kind words. Really appreciate it!
Regarding ‘Autopilot’ because v little pressure is needed on the steering wheel to keep it happy, I find that it is actually an advantage to be able to disengage it easily. There is no need to make any steering corrections as it is so good at keeping in middle of the lane, as you mentioned you had to in the P2.
BTW, the screen looks much nicer in colour if you switch to satellite view on the map.
Super video, can you also do similar video for the Ipace as I am considering one of both cars to purchase end of the year. Thanks.
Great to see a fair, level headed review of the Tesla. I think a lot of Tesla videos suffer from 'fanboy' syndrome, so it's refreshing to watch a real world review. The road noise in Tesla's has a lot to do with the single ply glass. I understand all newer versions have double ply glass which apparently cuts down the noise significantly.
Absolutely bullshit, the new doubles glass on tesla nearly do nothing ,PERIOD!!!!!!!!!! WATCH on internet for yourselves.
It's worth checking the satellite map view as well. I find it much better as you can see what's around you. Quite informative as you drive along.
Great comparison video! As a Model 3 owner I agree it can be noisy when driving at speed. The suspension is definitely tuned for a sportier drive, which can get a little annoying on long trips, but I still prefer it for spirited driving. Also a tip for Autopilot, just rest your right elbow on the armrest and your right hand at 4'oclock on the wheel, and let the weight of your arm apply enough force to keep the system happy. This way you should never get any nags from the system, and you can relax. Does this car come with the FSD package? If so you should try out Navigate on Autopilot.
Always difficult to make fair comparisons. One difference to consider is if you want an AWD. Polestar 2 has full-time AWD possibly 60/40 rear/front power distribution. Model 3 is mostly RWD. Only uses front wheels for first 5 seconds of a launch, as a method of traction control where it kicks in the front drive if rears slip and for heating the battery. So obviously, the Model 3 will use less power.
Really looking forward to your comparison of both cars. I believe you give an honest opinion and your someone I could trust.
Brian M
Thanks really appreciate that
Great review. Recommend using a db meter to compare because it’s clearly noisier than the Polestar. The comparison I would love to see is against the XC40 recharge because I wouldn’t consider a Tesla due to long term maintenance and repair ... as there are no Tesla shops anywhere near us. No doubt your dealer would be happy to help with a Recharge comparison...
Good initial comparison. I agree that the M3 weak points are ride comfort and road and wind noise at higher speeds.
Does this M3 have FSD? If so, can you comment on lane change on motorways? Thanks for making this comparison...
Thanks for the review. Are you sure that your Tesla has the enhanced autopilot system or just the included one? I have seen great differences in behavior both on highways and small roads ore city streets.
And yes, the Model 3 is quite road noisy. My old BMW 320D that was 9 years old when I changed cars was a lot quieter when driving.
Tesla autopilot is NOT supposed to be used other than on a motorway. I have stopped using it because it disengaged when you respond to requests to apply gentle steering. Cruise control is also not great due to repeated phantom braking, ie emergency stops on the motorway. My own fault for not researching the car properly before buying
Off topic; I just charged for the first time since the new update and I got wildly stable high charging rates compared to before. Charging upwards of 400km/h at 55% still (which in my calculations is around 125KW). Did you notice the same after your update?
Thanks, yes good to hear. Yes I did, I managed a charge when temp was about 6 degrees and hit 300m/hr which I'd not seen before. Definitly seems a bit quicker
@@ShortCircuitPS2 Awesome that you also get these results! They definantly made an improvement.
Couple of questions - If you’re streaming music from your phone, can you not skip tracks on the screen/steering wheel? Does it even show whats playing on the screen? And for navigation does it show lane guidance - eg ‘be in this lane for the next turning’ with a little graphic to help you position yourself? Can’t remember if I’ve ever seen that on a Tesla but for me thats really valuable for satnav
Your microphone is picking up a really significant increase in road noise ☺
Yes definitely is! In my final comparison video I'll show some clips back to back as a direct noise comparison
@@ShortCircuitPS2 it will also be interesting to see the dB readings to compare with subjective perception.
Dead right about pilot assist you actually have to steer to prevent it beeping. It’s basically a volvo so I can’t understand why it doesn’t behave like one in this aspect
If Polestar uses the Volvo Pilot Assist, you can just tap on it to the music beat to prevent the hold the steering wheel notification.
The thing I do would like to see improved in the Volvo Pilot Assist around town; yes you can use it around town and to a full stop; tap the steering wheel button to reengage Pilot Assist and move off from a stop... I do not like that the speed is constant if no car in front is being tracked by the system, the cornering on a relatively tight bend is not great imo in my XC60. Yes, it's a pseudo-SUV on air suspension, but would appreciate it if the Pilot Assist would slow down for certain bends. That's probably a higher level of vehicle autonomy?! Just my opinion. Best car seats in any car I have had!
I would imagine the latest MY Tesla 3 would be quieter, as I understand they made improvements to the door seals and added double glazed front windows, in addition to various improvements in the cabin trim and centre console. How did you find the build quality fit and finish of the Tesla, as that is always the big issue with their cars. By the way whilst mentioning the latest MY, as I understand the battery efficiency has been improved with the addition of a heat pump. Finally I would add I'm not an owner or a member of the Tesla fan club!!!
Thanks, the interior of the model 3 is very nice however there are some very noticeable panel gaps, the worst I've ever seen! I've watched a few noise comparison videos and most seem to show very little improvement with the new update.
@@ShortCircuitPS2 there are already db tests comparing the two. there is almost no difference (P2 leads by 1.5-2db)
another great video ! i really dont like the tesla... beside the seats that are looking fake (that headrest, is that serious ? lol) but you can definitely hear how noisy is compared to the P2 ! great job Bradley like always !
I'm in Australia and I had a Polestar (the fast petrol one), so I was dead keen to get a Polestar 2. Alas our draconian government is owned by the fossil fuel industry, so we'll have to wait a while. Meanwhile I bought a Model 3 Performance, which would be about the same price as the P2 when it gets here. Your review had reinforced my thought to buy the Tesla now and look at the P2 in a few years. It will mean bugs are ironed out and I can see what the depreciation will be like on both. The Polestar was a disaster in that respect. Everything you said so far gels with my experience. One thing that puts me off the P2 is the claustrophobic cabin. The high console and small glass house makes it tight. My Volvo was also tight for space and on long drives the floating centre console was impinging on my space when on cruise control and I wanted to pull my leg back a bit. The Tesla is so open inside it feels like a much larger car. Also storage is very limited on the P2 which was an issue for me before too. What I really loved about my Volvo was the lovely finish inside and out. I am very happy with my TM3 after a year, but it will be interesting to see how it goes after 5.
Looking forward to your comparison videos
Your certainly jumping around alot more in the M3. Seems very ziggly
Great video - it's interesting to hear your first impressions and look forward to hearing more.
For me the Tesla M3 wins on range & charging and the Polestar 2 wins on quality and fit and finish. Just hearing that road noise and the cheaper looking white roof lining, instantly shows where the TM3 falls down.
So so far I'd totally agree with that. The range is great and love the efficiency but I very much feel the polestar is nicer to drive
Tested the mustang mach e tesla model3 at the same day and the noice in the tesla are so much more. Tested the polestar a couple of days later and there werent alot of noice there. Maybe its the 500 kg that makes the polestar more silent?
Regarding noise, couple of tests done already: th-cam.com/video/oXZei_2MiPI/w-d-xo.html tldw: in absolute dB terms, they are a hair's breadth from each other. One car may have its frequency peak at a more noticable level to the ear, however.
You're making the distance calcs more difficult than they need to be surely. Just convert whpm into miles per KwH (200 whpm = 5 mpkWh etc) and multiply by the battery capacity. In fact, I think all cars should report in mpkwH as this is closest to MPG and is most familiar in the UK, and where a higher number is better (i.e it's more natural for UK owner anyway to think of 5mpkWh being better than 4mpkWh, in the same way 50mpg is better than 40mpg).
I don't think I'm making it more difficult at all. I'm doing a one step calculation, battery capacity / consumption = range. Super simple in my opinion but other people might prefer a different method.
Really? You feel like you have to put alot of input on the steering wheel? I only lightly touch my knee on the bottom and it's already registering. I found the Model 3 input to be much larger (was a while back since I drove one). Same with hands, barely need to touch the wheel for it to register my hands.
Where exactly do you touch the steering wheel? I‘ve seen others complain about having to give a lot of input. The response may depend on where you touch it...
@@marcelottiger4013 I put my knee on the left side against the wheel. Barely needs anything. Sometimes I forget it's there :p
@@b03tz Thanks, good to know. My P2 is arriving in a week 😉
@@marcelottiger4013 best car you can buy for the money imho, you wont regret it!
That is very interesting, I noticed on a video Kris Rifa did that he had to move the wheel a lot on the Polestar, even more than mine. Perhaps there is a difference between cars that really should be there.
You definitely need a dialogue suppressor with this Tesla. The noise floor is too high. P2 must be at least 15 to 18 db less noisy!!!!!
What year was the M3?
If I'd known you were looking for somewhere to hire a Model 3 I'd have suggested evision as I've used them before. :)
How long have you got it for, that ev rental company isn't exactly cheap.
4 days, actually I think the price is very fair. Not easy to find a hire car that can do 0 to 60 in under 4 seconds for less than £120 per day
@@ShortCircuitPS2 I agree its not easy
There's a lot of EVs that drive better than the Tesla, but nothing has really gotten close to their efficiency.
It can't be long before other manufacturers catch up there though. Give it 3 years.
Fair comparison, but it's a shame that the comparison was not with the 2021 model with the double glazed front windows re the noise. It sounds like you didn't test drive a Tesla M3 before buying your P2. Will be interesting when you go back to your P2 that you will/would miss the app, charging infrastructure and efficiency.
The app is very good and I hope the Polestar one meets the same standard! I've watched a few noise test videos most seem to show that the noise improvements on the new car are barely noticeable.
@Mole Patrol - The double glazed windows will help reduce wind noise, but most of the noise, vibration and harshness (NVH) comes through other parts of the car.
The additional 300kg of weight the P2 carries around, possibly includes better/more insulation.
@@SDK2006b yes interesting how each car has its merits. The extra weight gives you better insulation and ride. I was torn but having had a previous electric car I found the charging infrastructure the bane for medium and longer trips. Sacrifice the ride for the better updated tech and efficiency of the Tesla. Sounds to me like the p2 is a very good car that was released before the tech was ready. That would annoy the hell out of me paying that much and still waiting for the app , 4G to be corrected, and OTA needing visits to a dealer.
Tesla has a horrific interior. Don't sell me IPhone minimalism when you're realy giving me cheap, plastic parts. Seats are extremely cheap as well.
P2 was one of the best EVs I've driven,but I prefer the leather over the vegan.
Take the P2 on the mountain roads and it really shines
I own a Model Y. I think that the vegan is rather nice material. However, I am still eating steaks for dinner, so......what happened to all the hides that my steaks were wearing? That's the mystery.
@@TeslaDo_d lol. Well done 👏🏿
LOL the tesla have the most comfy seats on the planet.. are you kidding me? from the way you talk it's obvious you never even set foot on a tesla.
@@yuvisap driven all of them many times except the Y. I said they are cheap, not uncomfortable
Watching the screen in the middle of the car to see if the autopilot see the other cars? People should look at the road instead, this is so stupid!
You need to try one before you write such stupid things.
@@stjerneskruetraekker I have tried it, not impressed!!!!!
@@porscheg50 sure you have..... that screen is so awesome, if you can't drive and use it I think the problem is the lack of IQ.
Why didn’t you compare the Tesla that you can buy now? This review is not accurate of what we would buy today. What year is your polestar?
Two reasons, I couldn't get hold of the 2021 model so decided to do this with the car I was able to get. To add to that, there are improvements to the new Tesla like heat pump, some noise improvements (although many tests show it makes little difference) but it's still very much the same car. It's a minor revision, not a total re-design.
Tesla are constantly updating their cars, almost monthly there are hardware & software changes/improvements added and some are more visible than others.
This is great in one sense but as a buyer it’s often hard to know which version of the car you’re getting. The recent update revised the interior which makes it easier to identify but the majority of continuous changes are made under the skin.
With all the zillion billion valuation, why can't Tesla do better job on the insulation, builds and can sacrifice a bit of range and still have the fantastic chargers infrastructure.
It's a shame your not in a Refresh Model 3, it's much more quiet.
I believe your range figure will go up as my 80% charge range is 318mi.
Regarding ride, I feel the bumpy road but I describe it as eliminating the harsh edges.
The glass roof is so dark as to be useless for enjoyable viewing. It may be better in the back seat but for me, I never look up. It's very strong and I like it for that reason only.
That is rubbish. Bjorn Nyland tested this. The only difference between the old and new is the double paned front side windows. Noise Level is the same.
@@fishndive1961 I've had mine 6 weeks and don't find the noise an issue at all.
Previous car was a 2008 G35.
@@fishndive1961
Tesla is a very different car maker to those we are used to, so the Model 3 you are odering right now, may be allready different to the one you order just a weak later.
Tesla updates their cars along the line, rather than waiting for a new model change and they hardly lose a word about it.
So allthough the cars look exactly the same, there maybe allready changes made to the car ordered just a week later.
This unfortunately works both ways though, some people who had ordered their Model 3 still had the ambient lighting, and without saying a single word or mentioning it on their website they got rid of it !
It is possible that some Model 3 refreshs shipped with additional sound insulation while others didn't.
Just as some came with the new headlights and others despite having the new center console still came with the old headlights, or where missing the double glass pane front windows.
Others again came with the old center console, but allready were featuring the new headlights.
Tesla doesn't give a f.... about what the customer thinks about things like that, they just do whatever they please to !
@@Rick9482 I am sure you don't, but it is no quieter than the previous model.
@@netsraccjf3965 yes I understand that. I've had mine over a year and I am a member of a Tesla owners' club so we are always looking at the changes. One thing we all know is that they are all as noisy as each other on the same wheels.
U can see that Tesla is made in a haste .. compared to polestar....
Tesla the company & its CEO are huge turn-offs for various reasons. I love EVs and have driven everything from a i3S to the I-Pace and love your Polestar 2 (even debating on a purchase) but honestly screw Tesla.
tesla has no compares
Why are you driving so slow on highway? I never drive slower than 85 mph
Umm, should I even answer this!? UK legal speed limit is 70mph
The Polestar looks incredibly drab in comparison to the Tesla, no imagination in that interior design whatsoever. Personal view but it’s very subjective anyway
where's the imagination in sticking a large screen to the dash and nothing else?
@@MrDead1975 Arguably a visionary decision in light most other manufacturers have followed suit in one guise or another - a Tesla makes you feel like you are driving something futuristic by its minimal interior, the Polar looks just like every other car out there, 2021 needn’t be so dull
He does go on a bit zzzz
Terrible