Assetto Corsa Competizione Upgraded For PS5 and Xbox Series X/S - Full Analysis
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 มี.ค. 2022
- Assetto Corsa Competizione is a great game marred with performance issues on last-gen machines. A new patch has arrived that taps into the power of Xbox Series consoles and PlayStation 5, so how does it fare? Oliver Mackenzie puts all versions through their paces.
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I’ll never understand why they push the resolution scaling too far sometimes. Get it to where it plays a locked 60 and leave it.
Same here, I doubt my old eyes would see a difference between native 4k and 1550p in a fast moving picture anyways.
Coz not everyone is like you using 24 inch 1080 monitor. Some are using a 70 inch 4k TVs.
@@GlennThoughts so you know he has a 24inch TV? Did you actually understand his comment? @Chad Hay, agreed, smooth 60fps is way more pleasing.
Them Teraflops don’t mean shit.. mark cerny was right ps5 is a beast
@@seanpitt27 It is and the reason is because of the Custom Nature of the PS5. Plus it has faster Cache speed because of the high GPU clock which helps in all other areas. PS5 will always provide a smoother experience.
I don't really understand why the Series X has a higher average resolution than PS5 when it is dropping more frames than the PS5. It seems to me that the Xbox could benefit from a similar variable resolution as the PS5.
This seems to be a recurring theme with SX versions. Devs should drop the resolution to maintain a stable frame rate
I agree and that's a common problem in many games ... because XSX has VRR maybe?
My guess Is the devs tend to rely more on VRR on xbox.
This seems to happen a lot where PS5 ports prioritize framerate while Xbox ports prioritize resolution with frame drops which could be easily smoothed out (while probably still having a resolution advantage). I've wondered for a while if MS pushes for higher resolutions but it's probably something simpler than that.
As a PS5 player it doesn't affect me, but it's interesting. I doubt it has anything to do with VRR as it still has low adoption.
@@gonzaloxd2 thinks so too yep
Man, seeing this makes me appreciate GT7 way more now, don't take a stable and beautiful output for granted.
To be fair, GT7 can’t hit 60 fps in certain rainy conditions.
@@ags911 That's a very specific set of lighting/weather/car quantity+position scenario, thankfully.
Gt7 is garbage dude
@@ifyourepliedyougotbaitedlo5717 no dude your blind
@@ags911 well, that's one peculiar scenario behind 20 cars with weather effects and water effects flooding the screen. Game in general doesn't really drop frames. 99.9% of the time, I'd call that pretty damn perfect. :) it's at native 4k mind you.
Nice job, Oliver! I'm especially loving how well the intro flows and leads into that cool title animation. You've really got the chops for this stuff!
FYI "Competizione" has five syllables, not four. You missed out the "tiz" every single time. As an Italian, I had to bring it up. 😂
I love the way it rolls off Aris's tounge :) 💌🟩⬜🟥
It’s so annoying hearing him say it 🤮
I noticed the same, it was very annoying, but understandable :)
@@TheCarloalberto95 Ma certo! 😂
TY so much for covering this! And you did a great job. Great video.
On release day on Series X I did a 60 minute race at Spa with 24x time acceleration (so 24h in 60 minutes) with 50% variable weather. There was no rain for entire race and framerate has been okay, not perfect but fine, however after the night when the day started I had very annoying constant stuttering... Hope they improve the stability with patches.
That “competsione” throughout the whole video was weird. The game itself is a bad news for Xbox users. Dropping frames in racing games can be deadly.
Polak zawsze sie do czegos prz*pierdoli
Don't want to be nitpicky, but it bothered me somehow as well. I think because he tried to come close to an italian accent, but, ultimately, missed a syllable entirely.
@@Shykeful Oh come on man at least he's trying....
I'm ignorant, I've been pronouncing it "Comp-eh-tiz-ee-own"😂
I'm sure the Xbox performance is just a matter of tuning and will be fixed. But, pretty peculiar considering the game is based off a PC (Windows) version ...
@@anujpartihar I get that, but if you try to imitate a native pronunciation, why not just take the time to open any online dictionary and listen to the audio? This is a matter of ten seconds.
It's not like we are in elementary school where the effort alone is being worthy of a reward.
This channel deals with videogame graphics on a professional level, so the professionalism might as well extend to such minor details.
However, I also pointed out that I am being nitpicky about it.
Nice racing line through a chicane at 7:17
LMAO
10:30 GTA trilogy level of rain effects 😂
Surprised this isn't mentioned at all. Looks terrible.
Needs to rain inside the cockpit too ☺
Motorsport 7 has better rain effects
But it's sim based arcade game
Nice!! Was hoping for this video
Does anybody know why texture filtering still seems to be an issue on the current gen consoles? Is there a technical limitation, or just a curious choice developers are making?
they use 4 year old tech before they are even out, its just off the shelf pc parts. Single chip when a desktop has dedicated GPU and CPU and Memory with separate cooling for all.
All I know is that it's not new to this gen but given their capabilities, it's even more noticing and questionable.
@@greengamerguy623 to be fair they ain't going to use the best of the best or they would cost 2k
Isn't it memory bandwidth heavy?
The PS5 has around the same memory bandwidth than the 1080 Ti (which is at best a 1080p medium card in modern titles) so I don't think they have much more headroom for it if they keep pushing for 4K.
@@greengamerguy623
They were not using "4 year old" hardware
Gddr 6 memory
Latest gen Ryzen of their year
rDNA 2 before PC even got it.
SSD speeds PC was just starting to see
I don't get this resolution fetish on Series X, is that a requirement by Microsoft? It just hurts performance and graphical detail, and makes MS console look weaker, stop this nonsense. VRR is not the solution for poor framerate, period.
At typical TV viewing distances, most people won't even notice the difference to a lower resolution with decent upscaling anyway.
No my guess is it is the stronger GPU lends itself to higher resolutions where as the faster GPU in the PS5 lends itself to smoother framerates. Without too much optimisations i mean. Not saying they can't achieve perfection on both if they put the effort in but in reality time is money. Plus at a guess for now at least they just favour Sony as they have more machines out there. There is a weird vibe with some developers that they deliberately hold back optimising for Xbox platforms too. This is clear from CDPR with their pathetic use of the Series X in Cyberpunk 2077.
Thanks, Oliver. Was hoping for a DF analysis of this update. Cheers.
I find it strange we have been seeing over this last year of the new generation that developers are almost always pushing for higher resolutions, and not performance. Even with some games offering different quality or performance modes I feel like they are almost always pushing the resolution up as high as possible and not offering a “locked” framerate. I mean even Elden Ring is guilty of this and I find it very strange
Better graphics has been the selling point for every new console for decades. Not surprising they push what always mattered
I think that's more true on Xbox. Probably/possibly because Microsoft advertise it as a "True 4k" or "uncompromised 4k" machine so they have to get it at 4k most of the time otherwise Americans will sue them for false advertising :)
But yeah, that matrix tech demo looked great and I didn't mind it being 1440p or whatever it was (PS5). So yeah I'll take lower resolution to a certain extent if it means more realistic gfx.
@@metallicafan416 definitely not the case, PS5 tends to have lower overall resolutions and performance better due to that
EXCELLENT review guys!
it's not a review. it's a graphics overview. SMH!
They should have just aimed for 1440p 60fps with all the bells and whistles.
Completely left out two letters when pronounincing 'compeTIzione' - Oliver is saying "compezione."
It sounds a bit like and is "competition."
Com-pet-ti-zione. 😝 'Z's are always hard like 'Pizza' or 'Forza' not Forsa lol and you got that bit right.
Good work nonetheless 👍
It's not John on the video - it's Oliver Mackenzie, just fyi.
Commpetzjonee
@@M41-76 Cheers man. I stand corrected. Going to edit my original post. Embarrassing correcting someone and making a balls if it myself 😭
I was wondering if that was the correct pronunciation, so I guess he did it wrong. I thought this was another case similar to what I hear when people pronounce Atlanta, and what I hear: "Alana" xD
It sounds like Fettuccine.
Will you guys be covering the dying light ps5 update?
I was expecting a 40-50 FPS delta in favour of Xbox Series X because of 12tf and Full RDNA2 according to tech expert Dealer Gaming... Guess he was wrong or teh toolz arent ready...
😂😂😂😂🤡
It’s either lazy devs, the toolz not being ready or Sony paid the devs. Xbots can hold this L
Hahahahaha, "wait for the tools"!
@@lomaxxbr It’s funny to me because the tools are there. 3rd party isn’t going to use them because the toolset is actually next generation and the PS5 was stripped of most, keeping it closer to the PS4 in development! I haven’t seen or heard of any next generation engine that has full RDNA 2 implementation yet. Do y’all know of any?
lol that guy a clown.
The TOOLS! The TOOOOLS!
Waiting for VRR witnesses in the comments btw)
Are you okay?
Hey guys, it's not comeizione, it's competizione... first part (competi) is like competition in english, last part (zione) has a strong Z like the one in Forza Horizon.. excellent analysis however, thank you for your beautiful work
New Forbidden West patch today, still no real improvement of the performance mode. Will we see a detailed analysis of the image quality of the performance mode in a video from you?
I'm actually a little surprised how close to 60fps they got this running. I almost had more faith in Fromsoft delivering a stable framerate over ACC
@randomguy9777 None of what you said has anything to do with why the frame rate runs how it runs. You seem to forget that that racing game is also calculating physics for each car and their four wheels constantly in a race. From Software wouldn't know locked frame rate if it bit them on the ass.
Considering how much power it takes to run on the PC I think the PS5 version looks great. There are so,e bugs but honestly it’s great to see this game on console.
@randomguy9777 My comment was more towards how heavy this game was to run in the past and I wasn't holding put much hope for a solid 60.
great video again!!! thank You! but the name is "Competizione" and not "Compezione" 😃❤
I was scratching my head every time he said "compezione"
@@SteveNaranjo 😃
Forza and Gran Turismo have really set a high standard for racing game graphics! (And performance, clearly)
@@ifyourepliedyougotbaitedlo5717 Yet Forza keeps shitting all over Gran Turismo.
@@Elias_g1 Seeing the quality of the car models in GT relative to Forza, I'm inclined to disagree
@@RandomGamingMoments925 Car Quality is only one aspect of the game. There are a lot more things Forza does better.
@@ifyourepliedyougotbaitedlo5717 gt7 is first good gt game since the ps3 while forza always been high quality and the Xbox one is only gen where Xbox had bad exclusives
@@Elias_g1 forza 😂😂😂😂 the most unrealistic physics ever. It’s a noob game ffs
Am I wrong or did this guy litrely post the performance in full rain and loaded with cars in replays on the x consoles. Then in the dry on ps5?
What was strange for me is that the guy in the video claimed that he preferred playing the game with a wheel, but looking at the video his car reaction and cockpit view steering wheel looks like he played it on a keyboard or the controller d-pad, not even the anolog stick.
Ouch Xbox…ouch
Mark cerny is the one
Is the background song at the beginning from dirt rally 2.0? Or am I confusing something :)
excellent video
Pretty standard upgrade, but the game lags behind its peers visually. I suspect the more complex physics simulations are hogging a lot of resources
Actual car physics is the number 1 priority of any real race sim. ACC, rFactor and iRacing.
I don't think the underlying physics simulation utilizes much GPU resources. That would primarily be CPU resources utilized for that. Ultimately, the game is very demanding and has always struggled with optimization. Even on PC it can be difficult to get this game to run smooth and look good unless you have a really high-end card.
Physics engine updates and send data to wheel 400times per second. Tire deformation(you can actually see it in slow motion), fully working drainage system on tracks during rain. Air/wind simulation, dirty air is simulated. I mean once you start doing some reading on how balls deep they went with simulation you start to appreciate what they did there. There was a funny story about how they were thinking they encountered a bug in-game but turned out it was just a result of a simulation, and the same thing was happening with a real car - but i can't remember exact details without looking it up again.
no. physics has nothing to do with incompetent devs. this physics runs over 30fps even on the jaguar cpu of the ps4. it is clearly gpu bound due to too high max resolution - 4k.
These guys just don't have optimised code, they are famous for it, it's the same on PC
Digital Foundry are masters at graphic analysis AND hilarious drivers 🤣 I love you!
... and occasionally hilarious Nvidia and AMD drivers.
Will there be a shadow warrior 3 video in the pipeline?
When will patch 1.8 be released?
Was the 'light' TAA Implementation a negative point? To me that seems like a good thing, I'll take some slight aliasing to avoid a blurry image in motion, especially in a fast racing game
its not slight. trees look like theyre made out of razor blades. looks so shit compared to pre patch
No. It's a huge negative. Games with quality TAA do not look blurry at all, games without it do
@@HugoStiglitz88 taa always blurs
@@crocodilegamer93 LOL it literally doesn't. It makes edges and textures look much cleaner.
Aliasing heavy AA's are a million times more blurry and distracting than even the worst TAA the nintendo switch can offer.
TAA has been the sharpest and best AA since Uncharted 4 came out in 2016 and only a clown would claim otherwise.
@@HugoStiglitz88 only a clown would call TAA the sharpest AA when supersampling is a form of AA
Dying Light 1 just got a patch on PS5 but I think I'm noticing more pop in in the game now than I did before the patch.
The game looks so s..xy now 😍😍
I feel that the popin is the same just more noticable. Not the best next gen update
This POP IN needs to be addressed thoroughly by Devs. It breaks immersion.
Yup, it's just backwards compatibility. They don't have the available ram on the ps5 when running a next gen upgrade on only a patch and not a native version. They only have access to 5.5 gigs of ram the ps4 pro has when they release any next gen patch only and not a native version. When it's only a patch you'll still be running the ps4 code but with faster clocks but the same ps4 pro ram. I'm anticipating the xbox series x version will have a higher resolution because they have at the very least 9 gigs of ram to work with while running in backwards compatibility due to the One x.... maybe more because they have a different set up for backwards compatibility
@@nitehawk-cg6jb It's pretty obvious that it's just a patch and not a native version, I'm just saying that I think I'm noticing more pop in and textures loading after the patch, but I'm not 100% certain.
How does series x and s run now? Been plenty of updates since this video
People keep talking about the bad frame rates on Xbox series x being saved by VRR. But let's be honest HOW MAY PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVE A VRR CAPABLE TV? I have a PS5 and a great TV in terms of colours and black levels. And I know other people with PS5. But none of them has a VRR TV. Even the people with an Xbox series x don't have a VRR TV. So devs are relying on a VRR to help frames when few people have such TV. Meaning majority of people play their Xbox series x with the bad frame rates.
Devs shouldn't rely on VRR. They should make their games run smoothly as possible. VRR should just be the a nice upgrade not something you have to rely on to have a nice experience
1000 percent agreed
I found the game unplayable previously. Not just the framerate, but the judder, would give me a headache. While not perfect I've been really enjoying the game since the update a few weeks ago. Brilliant with a wheel on Series X too.
Apparently there's a patch coming out in the next week.
You have to play with a wheel, the game is designed around wheel for small changes
@@imo098765 You don't have to play with a wheel, it's playable with the pad. But the wheel handling is very good.
I want this game as i have a series X but no wheel...would you recommend? I have managed to play the first AC and PC2 perfectly fine with a controller after modifying sensitivity and deadzones etc.
How about motion control steering? It’s fantastic on GT7 (and was on Sport etc as well).
Testify! Ive only just discovered this in GT7 and its been transformative and completely changed how I race for the better. Now that ive used gyro, theres no going back, so unfortunately forza motorsport will be dead to me as the series x has no gyro.
If anyone reading this has gt7 and hasnt tried gyro steering, please try it. Being able to steer properly has given me such joy and fun, and I'd love more people to discover this joy!
Anyone truly into racing games uses a decent wheel and pedal set up and doesn't rely on gimmicks lol
@@DEVILTAZ35 if the gimmick works, then it's not a gimmick.
@@titntin5178 I played GT Sport like that and it's amazing, gyroscope when used properly adds alot to games, not only racing games, but even to 3rd and 1st person shooters, Naughty Dog for example also added Gyro aiming to TLOU2 in a patch and it's so satisfying using it.
In Horizon forbidden west you can aim using motion control.
Is this a patch or native versions?
Ffb for logitech has been awful, plus they removed all my stats etc with the new update. The game for me is currently unplayable , does anyone know about any patches in the pipeline?
There's something to be said for 'bespoke' racing game engines like Turn 10's ForzaTech and Polyphony's GTS. Can't wait to see them used in native new gen games, when cross-gen is abandoned.
Granted, Unreal Engine 4 - used in Assetto - is no slouch for racing games and (on paper) is fully equipped to handle the genre, but it lacks the raw focus of the aforementioned proprietary tech.
Unreal Engine 5, on the other hand, has some specific features that could be *outstanding* for future racing games developed with it. Ultra Nanite LoD control, etc. seems ideal for performance savings in track racers, among other features.
I wasn't too happy when I learned that ACC would be using UE4 for the visuals. I'm guessing it was probably cheaper/easier than to continue updating their own graphics engine though.
@@KefazX Plus they had an eye on the current/future multiplat console market, so UE4 was a safe choice. (Also, some Epic Games incentives).
I'm hoping the EGO Engine that codemasters gets updated to use just for Ray tracing capable hardware. My fear is that EA will forced them to use Frostbite, just like how they forced Criterion to abandon Renderware.
@@BurritoKingdom Yeah. CM actually has some pretty solid internally-developed engine tech.
You will find the gameplay in this game kills GT7 though . Especially the AI and just the general racing feel. This is streets ahead in that regard. It's for a different audience though. GT7 is casual racing and for people into virtual car collection it's not an actual racing game like this one. I was really disappointed by GT7.
No mention of the motion blur?
It's off in the options by default for some reason, but it works pretty nicely when enabled. Makes the background go past nice and smoothly.
Apart from that, it's a great racing game with great physics, but is still marred by bugs that will never be fixed. The game even crashes a lot when saving/loading control setups.
@@DeadPhoenix86DP that's a shame. It varies for me, for example I turned it off in Uncharted 4 as slow pans made the world look a mess, but is great in Doom, and it's not very intrusive in ACC imo. Just makes the very periphery blur, and isn't that noticeable in the centre of the screen
11:19 Oliver has some beautiful hands.
It's funny seeing Gran Turismo liveries in this game
3:04 that ghosting is disgusting
Super disappointed they don't have an unlocked 120fps VRR mode.
There is no excuse not to unlock the framerate when VRR is active.
Yeah. They should allow an unlocked experience in every game when the console is set to 120Hz VRR mode. This is getting ridiculous at this point. Either xbox should enforce this or the devs should stop being lazy.
Does the Xbox series X versions of Assetto Corsa and Competizione, have freeroam, online or single player?
What music was playing for this review? I really liked it and would like to listen to it.
Did you ever find it? I've been looking for it aswell!
@@slashndasher6359 No! Could you please let me know if you find it? I'll do the same for you.
Excellent analysis as always Oliver; one small observation: it seems like your not pronouncing the "TI" [tee] in "compeTIzione". Italian basically has a one-to-one correspondence between letters and sounds, meaning every letter that forms any given word has a corresponding sound that must be pronounced. I hope my comment is somewhat informative; have a good day.
Yepp. Very disturbing.
Ohhh thats why. I thought this was Iracing
Sad they didn’t include motion steering. It’s a good alternative in GT for those of us who can’t have a wheel/pedal combo.
Which, for ACC, is a must! Because of how precise you must be on the driving.
@@Gamebit257 I can do fine with a joystick
Agreed. Everyone talks about Dualsense features like haptic feedback or adaptive triggers but the motion controls are really underrated and go ignored even if they would be really beneficial to gameplay and immersion.
@@teehundeart The DS4 already had this high-precision motion control that, if configured properly, it's miles better than the standard analog stick.
DualSense's Motion is still great, but it shines with the feedback and trigger stuff.
@@Gamebit257 that’s just like, your opinion man. It may not be as “precise” as wheel/pedals, but it’s better than thumb sticks.
0:39 careful now, the drones will rip you apart.
Is it possible to do a long endurance race on console
It's Not Compe-Zione
It's Compe-TI-Zione!
I mean forza 7 and gt7 both run at 4k60, and a locked 60 at that. The divide between res and fps is likely due to poor optimization on both console fronts . A track racer launching on this gen should be able to deliver a smooth experience paired with that of higher resolutions.
Forza 7 is locked on one X at 4K60. GT7 is not(but close)
Gt7 doesn't run 4k at 60 fps while in game it's 4k 30
I would say bad optimisation. Both GT and Forza looks better and run better
@@Shaker1000 its not 30fps thats only in replays with rt reflections gamplay is 4k 60 with some scaling but thats rare acordig to Df.
@6:00 that is some reaaaaally bad ghosting dayum
Cant wait for the Ninja Theory and Nanite games to release.
As someone with years of Racing experience, in real life and also Sim racing, i have to say the biggest issue of ACC is the steering via Gamepad, to be precise, the steering customization!
Before a "noob" comes up and says "you need to drive with wheel" hold on. I'am playing sim racers for over 20 years now, started with a 80 bucks plastic wheel all the way up to a custom build DD wheel. And i also played with gamepad, some people (including me) are completely fine driving sim racers like AC (1), rFactor (1-2), iRacing, netKarPro ... via gamepad without any aids (no TC, ABS etc..).
For me, AC 1 was a dream. You could essentially map the controls in a way that the stick would work like a wheel. If you "steered" your stick, lets say, 23% to the left, the in game wheel would also steer 23% to the left. If you rapidly hit the stick from left to right, the ingame wheel would near instantly jump from left to right (thats where many casual players struggle). You could essentially have raw inputs without any „filter“ on top which makes the steering sluggish. You can easily see that in these games, steer quickly from left to right and you will see that the steering will be delayed. Anyways, you could customize it however you like, there are even people out there who are playing with mice/mouse.
In ACC it unfortunately changed. You can't freely customize your inputs anymore and you are forced to use their hilariously bad Gamepad Presets. The same complaint can be made for various newer released titles including Gran Turismo 7. Your game won't be "too heavy on the Sim side" when you offer input customization, in fact, it will make it more accessible for a wider base of players.
GT 7 Gamepad presets are bad?
Is GT7 bad in that aspect? I played GT Sport with a gyroscope and it's incredible
It's the deadzone. In AC1 you could effectively remove the dead zone so that steering is 1-to-1. Too many developers are just lazy in thinking a dual analog preset with no option to kill the dead zone is the end all be all of, well, any control scheme on a console. The dead zone is a big reason why so many dual analog control schemes are total shite no matter which genre being played but especially for FPS and sim driving games. It makes everything feel slow and clumsy no matter what adjustments are made. Precise controls are essential or the gameplay just becomes a joke of an experience.
As far as the focus of this video. My conclusion is pretty much what I expected. Still better on PC.
GT7 offers gyro controls, which is far superior to stick control. That's a plus at least in this regard.
Xbox Series L.
20TFlops for what?
1.8 console update. 29/9/2022. Many of us are waiting patiently with building excitement. We all have only 9 days left till the major release what will change ACC gameplay a lot.
I’m from London UK and have been racing AC and ACC on PS4 and PS5. I’ve raced over 1000+ hours on AC and over 1000+hrs on ACC PS4 version. Now building up big time on PS5. Joined a league, fantastic! True addict, aren’t you? Since release of ACC I had many serious problems with the game. And with every new update, with release of PS5 console, with new ACC console version I have felt a lot of new optimistic expectations followed by disappointment and a letdown from game developers. I’ve been lucky to always have a good FFB on my T300 Ferrari Alcantara edition and now DD1, but there were other problems what took a lot of nerve and patience. It’s hard to remember all the issues but there are few what stand out to me. For example not able to join multiplayer and the proposed fix was to delete my carefully selected 300 racing friends from AC and ACC. Of course I refused to do that and kept waiting till issue was fixed. That was a big wait but I used time to practice my racing in single player. Another problem is crashing Career. It crashed on three occasions trying to complete career endurance race of 3hours non stop racing. It crashed twice somewhere in last leg. Other day I completed the race, crossed finish line and while checking lap times game crashed not saving my career endurance progress. I was fuming! Another issue we all experienced was game simply crashing midrace, it happened a lot. So annoying and was makings me really angry when I had a good race. Then replay save crash needs to be looked at. Even now after all possible updates on PS5 software and ACC PS5 version updates I am experiencing game crashes, some DD1 disconnects, poor visuals as shading under cars, cars flickering. Other minor game bugs - Pit entrance notice issue, not able to use mapped buttons to look left/right as I can on AC version, no in cockpit turn indicators and headlighs LED’s. Sound issues after watching replay and rejoining track. One occation I had cockpit view flickering in career race, there was no flickering from outside view. Many gamers have poor FFB and other issues with game. The most major is game crashing and disconnects while racing leagues Championships. Over 2 years time since ACC console release game is not in a perfect state yet, but it’s playable and enjoyable. I wish there was more communication and a HELPING HAND between Kunos and UntoldGames who develops console version now. I wish thee was more communication from 505games what is distributor’s of console ACC. And I believe we console players deserve an APOLOGY from 505 games and Kunos for a big letdown because I believe game is not completed, it’s got many problems and is like in a beta version. We PS5 players are lucky to have both versions available to play side by side on PS5. I switch between PS5 and PS4 version because PS5 lobbies has small attendance numbers.
With 1.8 version PS5 and Xbox UntoldGames has to nail it. No excuses, it has to be perfection. Watching official Kunos ytube channel I learned Marcos, Aris and team still have that passion, they put a lot of effort developing PC 1.8 version what is a massive overhaul of ACC what changed already great game to something fascinating and they are proud of it. Would be shame if UntoldGames would do a poor job with console 1.8 version and drop all that KUNOS effort down in a mud. We don’t know what to expect precisely, announcement stated upgraded tyre model and 400hz + different liveries? We will see. Researching PC 1.8 update, numerous patch notes and reviews I learned about UPDATED rain visuals, rain tyre handling, rain track limits, cars BOP’s, reworked replay camera angles, mist and dew conditions, car night lights, bmw fuel consumption,there is so much more. PC 1.8 version is always updated. So which 1.8 version + latest update we console gamers will receive is not known yet. But it will change the game for sure.
Nobody:
Oliver: COMPEZIONE
Microsoft should demand resolution parity. Yes it's great that it's mostly at 4k but 1800p is not that big of a difference for a steady 60fps. I would always take 2k+ 60fps over 4k and unstable frame rates.
That's a good point, the dips are bad unless you have VRR which makes occasional drops down to 40 almost unnoticable. But I guess less than 10% of gamers have that since it's super rare still in TVs.
@@huawafabe so 90% is gonna suffer...
They don't make such demands
Seems like they demand 4k as much as possible, while Sony demands FPS.
Absolutely. They just want to seem the strongest in 1 particular area and it ends screwing the experience up. They need to stick to around the resolution the ps5 is going for in these 3rd party games and maybe then it would be a more even experience. Its getting old watching devs making inferior versions on xbox but I snicker a little bit at all the xbox fans that touted the Series X power over the ps5
All I can say is that I'm curious to see Forza Motorsport 8. We all are used to great performance and great great graphics. I think it will be a racing killer.
i lost all faith in fm honestly they care too much about horizon and i hate it they have fallen so far behind compared to all these more realistic racers like this game gt7 ac original and iracing
Lmao wait to see gameplay, this next one they updated the driving for more sim
Well that sucked huh.
How does an ad play one minute into the video
0:32 magic grip on rain. It's a breezy arcade fun like Forza games.
The driving is not realistic at all. People think because it has tire degradation and a few more sim aspects that the driving is realistic too when that’s not the case
pales in comparison to GT7 💟🌌
If you can look past some of performance/graphics that are lacking a bit, you get the best simraicng game available on consoles at this moment(gt3 and g4 cars only).
I totally agree, however the online part is broken. Broken bad on PS5 anyway. Glad I've got GT7 to tide me over till they fix it.
This is not the best sim on consoles ,looks and feels cheap
Need for speed shift looks better than this
@@chriswright8074 For simulation, it's not what gamers 'feel' that makes it the best sim, but what real drivers say when they compare the sim to the real thing. And most of not all real drivers who have made that comparison claim ACC is the closest of them all.
@@CSTBFO_jad No real driver would play this on console and say it's the best, that is a lie. FOH, with that nonsense. This game like the original will fade away into the background with only the diehards who worship it left to talk about it on forums as if it's the best thing since sliced bread. GTR2, iRacing and others exist but, whatever bruh.
It's the actual real driving simulator
I don't have the game. If I buy the PS4 version now will I still get the ps5 upgrade? Thanks
Beginning to feel like for some developers (and no, this is not happening in most AAA games), they just dont put the work into the xbox port. And bafflingly, it seems in ways that are not expensive (slight tweak to the image scaler would allow a looser slide down to rez, so why doesn't it do that?). That are other things (like From having atrocious load times on Series X and S, even below the typical).
If you give xbox owners the impression you dont care about them, they wont care about you either. I dont buy crap PC ports, and you shouldnt buy crap console ports either.
except the HDD? did they spend their xbox budget on the HDD and the PS buget on hz? KEKW
Xbox’s are just dogshit, period.
@@SLX25 how?
@@SLX25 no lmao
Takes a lot of work to change an ini file, what do you expect from Indie developers?
Why is the resolution always higher on series x for a tradeoff for unstable preformance.... Are the devs even testing their games.... good that there are better racers out there with better graphics and preformance
xbox has vrr support, so they prefer to keep higher stable resolution over fps dips
@@Rosilelilele not everyone has vrr and even then devs need to optimize their games better
Yeah its like they are too stubborn to just put it on the same level as ps5 to increase performance. The console just ends up looking underpowered bc the resolution difference in viewing isnt huge at all
@@Rosilelilele vrr supported displays are something the majority of gamers and xbox fans won't see in their homes for another 3 years or more
The devs clearly are spending more of their optimization time on the ps5 side, hence it dropping as low as 1152p (and still not hitting 60 fps) when it needs to, while the series x version barely drops below 2016p in the same situations where ps5 would drop more than half the pixels to keep up.
Had the dynamic res been set as aggressive as ps5’s I’m sure the frames would be as good or better, but I guess they got it close enough for VRR to kick in and called it a day…
There is a very obvious detail on this video that is not adressed: Your PS5 footage features predominantly a Gran Turismo/ PlayStation liveried Nissan GT-R, while in the Xbox footage that same car is nowhere to be found, not even in pack shots. Is the GT-R at all available in the Xbox version? And if it is, does it have a different livery?
I find it strange that you don't mention this at all in the commentary while you obviously hint at it with your choice of footage.
PCMR wins again, from 3 second load times to triple screen 5760x1080 max settings at 85 fps pretty solid.
GT7 is definitely not s simcade, compared to all GT games this one's the most sim feel, turn of all assists and you'll understand why
GT7 isn't a simulation. But anyone that calls anything thats not literally a kart racer arcade shouldn't be taken seriously anyway. Arcade racers are a very specific type of racing game. It does not, has never, and will never mean "not simulation"
Real Simulator is iRacing
@@Indie_Better_than_AAA it's been 2 years Xbot, cope, iRacing is a SIM yes but it still lacks a lot of shit cuz I've actually played it
@@melxvee6850 you do realise
Real enemy is Apple not Xbox (Microsoft)
Gaming exist because of Microsoft
Apple haven't invested anything on video games
Don't create console war
I just said iRacing
Because ACC is not better than iRacing
It appears that they just ported the One X version over to the Series S/X consoles. 🤦🏾♂️
No they didn't lol you could already play One X version on series X before and this is a huge upgrade from that lol. I bought the game in a sale for less than $20 and had been playing it on Series X prior to the upgrade and it's extremely noticeable how much better it looks and runs now. I have VRR anyway so it was still smooth before but nowhere near as responsive.
Keyword: Ported This game was not built from the ground up for the (next-gen) current gen Series X/S consoles. 🤷🏾♂️
Can they just standardize default modes at the system level 4K30 and 1440p60 as base? Gamers are getting tired of these weird variations in performance for the price they pay for these consoles.
So the ps5 as of now is the best way to play it? As of now ?
after seeing GT7 4k 60 looking the way it looks with no loading is hard to play any other sim racing game
GT7 isn't really a sim though...
@@Elias_g1 GranTurismo 7 : the fake driving simulator ?
You don't play sims for graphics, you play sims for the physics engine. GT will never be close to AC.
@@sinho113 Something like that. These games can't be compared.
GT7 is not a SIM.
Hope some day we have a real next gen racing game.
Forza Motorsport is coming out this year apparently.
@@Elias_g1 I can’t wait for that. I need a trailer immediately !!!
@@Elias_g1 He said a real racing game not Forza or GT. Those two games are arcade racers where ACC is a proper full on sim.
So the difference is the drs on series x is less aggressive . Third party prob does this because series x has vrr. Also the drops into the 40s doesn't make sense for series x and has to be an optimization issue/software issue
Which is stupid considering most console gamers don’t have VRR TV/monitors still and yea, dropping into the forties negates VRR effectiveness anyways. Better in the 50-60 range.
@jose131991 Why would they care what "most console" owners own.
They care what people who own a Series X own.
If you bought a Series X and don't have a HDMi 2.1 TV, it's not up to the devs to make up for your bad decisions.
Getting higher rez while experiencing the same perceived performance as someone who can't is great for people who made the proper decisions when purchasing their devices.
This doesn't begin to speak of the myriad Series X games like Dying Light, MSFS, and Inquisition that gain unlocked frame rate modes or new rendering modes altogether with VRR.
We shouldn't be held back because you don't have the hardware you should.
I like the original AC for its modding and VR support, it has a very good dedicated online community around that.
Extra teraflops means nothing if the rest of your console architecture is subpar.
What do you base that on? Do you really understand both architectures to make that conclusion? The one thing to take from this video is that the X is stuck rendering way more pixels than the PS5 is in this title, it is clear this game is not working correctly on the Series hardware. Not taking anything away from the PlayStation 5 hardware, it is incredibly designed, but do not mistake broken software for console architecture problems.
Is that why Dying Light runs 50% better on Series X and has an entire rendering mode not available to PS5?
this is the standard now...? PS5, lower res, more stable frame rate... XSX - Higher res - less framerate stability. Why wouldn't the dev's just match the settings to achieve parity? or spend more time optimizing them both...
Because Xbox teams are attempting to fool buyers and prove their console is more powerful. Which the GPU technically is. They tell the dev teams to go as high resolution as possible to make Playstation look bad, but the truth is, Sony simply has a better all around console and API integration.
They try to stick with this "worlds most powerful console" BS... when in reality, like you said, they need to just be matched in resolution.
@@pennywisethedancingclown7139 Noones sticking with anything, that statement doesn't exist.
@Mazzalean Actually they are. Xbox is always pushing devs to highest pixel count possible. That's their motive.
@@pennywisethedancingclown7139 Only one of the consoles is sold with a big "8K" on the box. The internal hardware teams at PS and Xbox don't control what external devs do.
@Sean Yeah, "The Touryst" on PS5 is Native 8K 60fps. Only 6K 60fps on the SX. The 2.23ghz higher GPU clocks on the PS5 help push pixels as well.
Also the 8K label on the box doesn't specify games in particular, more so that it natively supports the resolution for future video playback as well.
Either way, There is an 8K game on the PS5 no matter how you look at it.
Anyone know the music that plays @ 8:30?
Great video as always but in Italian the title is spelled “compeTIzione”
compe-tsione?
His pronounciation is even worse:
Comp-et-si-oni
no offense, but hearing "assetto corsa compezione" is so annoying
7:18 who is driving?
Assetto corsa, i used to complain about having to purchase all the dlc. It is NOTHING on sony and their predatory mtx since patch 1.07. Assetto corsa now look like the good guys.
Why the ps5 outperforme xbox series x??
I always prefer solid framerates to resolution, chasing 4k at the cost of stability needs to stop.
I know right? What ever happened to super resolution? They could use that and get way better performance
Indeed!
this game on PC with VR is pretty much the most realistic racing experience possible in the world.
runs like ass in vr though, you need stupidly good hardware. In comparison, automobilista 2 runs like a dream, though the physics are too grippy in that
Was also surprising how paired back the next gen versions are compared to pc in terms of graphics, even mod range pcs look better
Can confirm, 3090 runs everything at medium/low to hit 90fps in VR on an Index. Significantly worse on higher resolution headsets from what I've seen on the forums.
Nice use of the term Sim-cade. I think the 60fps degraded the cockpit and track graphics in my opinion. Some stuttering as well. The rest was a decent "free" upgrade.
what the f*** is happening with SX?!! runs like garbage, lower shadows and huge drops?!!really?!! I really want explanations for these issues by MS, is it due to the lowest bandwith of available ram on the cpu side? heaviest OS? an addition of these 2 factors that keeping performances of the cpu back? We know that ryzen are very reliable performance wise of the ram's bandwith...so that's the deal? a 12TF graphic power holded back by a poor performing cpu?!! really??
I think we all NEED explanations at this point for such a failure in conception....honnestly...
🤣🤣🤣 take it the ps5 is better mate its not always power u do know yeah because xbox is 12tflop ps5 is 10tflop don't mean nothin
@@joshuarudd7690 true, I'm interested in the "technical side" of things btw :)
The answer was in the video, Oliver said the Series X was at or nearly at 4K at all times. If you do the math where you see the PS5 dropping to a lowest of 1152p, it is clear what is happening. Series X is rendering the game potential with 3x the pixels and considering the Series X has a substantially lower pixel fill rate, that is not going to bode well for performance. My question again is, where is Microsoft quality assurance, do they not review titles that are ready to be released on their system?
The TAA ghosting in this game is unbelievable. Who thought it was a good idea to use TAA in a racing game where you're constantly in motion? The same goes for Gran Turismo 7.
@randomguy8196 MSAA with a forward renderer like how Playground Games did it with Forza Horizon 5. That game looks stunning and doesn't ghost all over the place.
@randomguy9777 The downsides are overshadowed by the benefits in racing games.
It is more expensive, but it's worth it. TAA is not at all a great fit for racing games because again: you're almost constantly in motion. Yes it only tackles edge aliasing. But as long as you don't render the vegetation and foliage like in _Red Dead Redemption 2_ or in pretty much the majority of modern deferred games, you should be good. Plus, there are other methods which you can use to tackle other forms of aliasing in forward rendering.
Tell me _Forza Horizon 5_ doesn't look great or at least decent.
Still waiting on the WRC 10 World Rally for the Switch Tech Review.
What is the first song?