I just watched your video today on November13th, 7 months later. First of all, you pursued a worth while endeavour to put “facts” to how far Obsidian material was transported. Then using the artifact design, connected the time period when transport occurred. As an end result your findings are very important. Other UTUBE videos have shown depictions of the Cordilleran Ice Sheet during the LGM and its subsequent melt. Arguably movement down the west coast of North America offers excellent access to food sources like; shellfish, fish, mammals and a faster ascent southward. The Columbia River Gorge and Obsidian and its ice free status during LGM seems a probable and likely route into the interior of the continent at this early time. Thus the recently discovered pre Clovis archaeological sites in eastern Oregon and western Idaho are consistent with the Columba being one such gateway to the interior. Taking this one step further, the latter mentioned archaeological sites are close to the watershed that eventually connects to the Mississippi which would explain rapid distribution of the Clovis aculture that came later. Thus, the tributaries to the Mississippi may explain rapid expansion of Clovis culture south to the Eastern Seaboard. But, I am off topic to your presentation. I might argue with the results of your question in your video of what is most important where the answer from viewers was “family.” For people of the time, animal migration routes and the timetable of movement seems more likely as the most important answer as food for survival was top of mind ….. ALWAYS. Pre Clovis and Clovis were hunters of the large animals that lived prior to the Younger Dryas. The large land animals moved with the seasons and with climate change and most likely with volcanic activity which was active along the west coast. The latter volcanic activity and ash extended over large areas and people would be displaced forcibly in such instances. Some populations may have remained in a particular location but such is not true of all people at anytime in history. Some people move voluntary and others move for reasons previously mentioned. This past February I was on the Baja Peninsula in Mexico. A dry arid and also mountainous location. My Mexican friends found 3 Clovis points. But have found points common to Northern California, Southern California, New Mexico, and Texas. This further confirms the natural restless tendency of people, which causes rapid transport of lithic materials and stone tool technology but also contrary circumstance of isolation. Obsidian sources exist in the northern Baja, but not even one Obsidian artifact has been found in the Southern Baja. ……. People’s movement are predictable but at the same time unpredictable. By the way, I am a retired engineer. A flint knapper for 35 years. My work took me to countries all over the world. I have artifacts bought at Sunday Markets from many locations, for example Celts from Papúa New Guinea identical to one Pat Southerland showed me at the UofA back in 1974 she found at a dig on Queen Charlotte (now Haida Gwai). Good ideas including tool technology move quickly. This is further confirmed when Peter Fidler (the first European) travelled from Buckingham House to southwestern Alberta in 1793, the indigenous already had horses, and Spanish swords, and were trading with the Nez Perce. That trading and material transport took less than 150 years to take place.
There's a solid date of ~18,000 years ago in eastern Oregon, at Rimrock Draw -- so this is earlier than the early dates in Idaho around 16kya. Clearly those people, and the folks at White Sands (~21kya) did not arrive there from having travelled south through the ice-free corridor.
Nice to see actual physical data that shows a pre Clovis settling of North America. Where the oldest samples are at the southern most area of the corridor and then slowly making their way north. It’s amazing how prevalent the idea that the Clovis culture was the first people dominates still in non academic circles. Very interesting presentation.
Clovis doesn't even bear a resemblance to anything found in Siberia, the inhabitants of which used a completely different technology in constructing their tools and weapons, with the vast majority of Clovis artifacts being found in the east.
@@garybowler5946 it was pretty lush by the time it was passable. I live in that area. You have to remember that there was a LOT of meltwater in the area that was scraped by glaciers once the corridor opened. Which is why they are suggesting that people didn’t pass through when it initially opened. It would have been very wet, boggy and lots of kettle lakes. But after a couple of thousand years, and the water drained off, down the middle of the corridor is the Main artery removing water, the Yukon River, but also lots of tributary creeks and other rivers that made their way into the Yukon River. For the southern region a lot of the water made its way to the Mackenzie drainage basin. Anyways, it was quite passable with lots of fauna and flora that populated the area as soon as it was possible. Food was in abundance by the time they travelled the corridor. Also, they were nomadic people that prepared a lot of dried meat for long periods of travel. If they did encounter areas of ice scraped areas that were barren of life they could have travelled few hundred kilometres easily.
Thank You, I will contact YBIC to relate an Early Man Tool/Projectile found in situ relative to Monument Draw in Andrews, Texas for examination in the hope of supporting this continuation of study.
hasn't the conceprt of an ice free corridor been shown to be false? Why would two adjoining edges of massive ice caps melt first? It doesn't make sense.
There was a river system that created that corridor. Do you believe in the existence of the Grand Canyon? It's something similar but instead of a river chipping away through the middle of mountains, they are chipping away ice at the end of the last Ice Age. There are a lot of geological studies showing when the corridor opened up. And it didn't open up just once but several times because in the last 3 million years there have been many periods in which the ice sheets expanded and retreated
@@nataliajimenez1870 the formation of the grand canyon was completely different. But regardless, humans moving into north america would have followed the coasts. the weather would have been less extreme, those areas would have been devoid of ice first, and the ability to travel by canoes would have been more expedient than walking. You need to think this through, b/c the old stale paradigm you keep pushing doesn't add up.
In 1992, construction workers were digging up a freeway in San Diego, California when they came across a trove of ancient bones. Among them were the remains of dire wolves, camels, horses and gophers-but the most intriguing were those belonging to an adult male mastodon. Hammerstones and rock anvils were also found. After years of testing, an interdisciplinary team of researchers announced that these mastodon bones date back to 130,000 years ago. It called the Cerutti Mastodon site. Extremely interesting.
@@MelissaR784 yes i've brought this up on a number of channels. this historic theory that we've been force fed about the peopling of north america is wrong. evidence refuting this theory has been ignored for decades. anthropology has become dogmatic and is not science based as long as it operates this way.
I don't buy it that people who carried tool stone into Alberta from long distances were trading for items like hides and meat. It is not like there were no hides and meat in their homeland. I don't know how much a buffalo hide weighs, but packing it from Alberta back to, let's say Montana, which was totally infested with buffalo, is not good economy. Maybe a better speculation would be that they were trading for wives, slaves, specific breeds of dogs, etc. Trade goods that they would not have to carry, but that would have great value back in the homeland.
I would love to have a job like this that has no consequences, whether you are correct or incorrect. I still can't understand the condescending tone or the arrogant over-celebration of triviality. What am I missing here?
If indeed people used the ice free corridor they would've found the land full of folks who came there many thousands of years prior. In fact I've yet to see any human relics that have been pulled from "Beringia". All of this is only conjecture with next to nothing to back it up.
@@cacogenicist You do realize they've been fishing and dredging the bottom for many years. They should have brought up many many fossils and relics yet there's nothing there and next to nothing on the beaches surrounding. It's like Atlantis with less proof.
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I just watched your video today on November13th, 7 months later. First of all, you pursued a worth while endeavour to put “facts” to how far Obsidian material was transported. Then using the artifact design, connected the time period when transport occurred. As an end result your findings are very important.
Other UTUBE videos have shown depictions of the Cordilleran Ice Sheet during the LGM and its subsequent melt. Arguably movement down the west coast of North America offers excellent access to food sources like; shellfish, fish, mammals and a faster ascent southward. The Columbia River Gorge and Obsidian and its ice free status during LGM seems a probable and likely route into the interior of the continent at this early time. Thus the recently discovered pre Clovis archaeological sites in eastern Oregon and western Idaho are consistent with the Columba being one such gateway to the interior. Taking this one step further, the latter mentioned archaeological sites are close to the watershed that eventually connects to the Mississippi which would explain rapid distribution of the Clovis aculture that came later. Thus, the tributaries to the Mississippi may explain rapid expansion of Clovis culture south to the Eastern Seaboard.
But, I am off topic to your presentation.
I might argue with the results of your question in your video of what is most important where the answer from viewers was “family.” For people of the time, animal migration routes and the timetable of movement seems more likely as the most important answer as food for survival was top of mind ….. ALWAYS.
Pre Clovis and Clovis were hunters of the large animals that lived prior to the Younger Dryas. The large land animals moved with the seasons and with climate change and most likely with volcanic activity which was active along the west coast. The latter volcanic activity and ash extended over large areas and people would be displaced forcibly in such instances. Some populations may have remained in a particular location but such is not true of all people at anytime in history. Some people move voluntary and others move for reasons previously mentioned.
This past February I was on the Baja Peninsula in Mexico. A dry arid and also mountainous location. My Mexican friends found 3 Clovis points. But have found points common to Northern California, Southern California, New Mexico, and Texas. This further confirms the natural restless tendency of people, which causes rapid transport of lithic materials and stone tool technology but also contrary circumstance of isolation. Obsidian sources exist in the northern Baja, but not even one Obsidian artifact has been found in the Southern Baja. ……. People’s movement are predictable but at the same time unpredictable.
By the way, I am a retired engineer. A flint knapper for 35 years. My work took me to countries all over the world. I have artifacts bought at Sunday Markets from many locations, for example Celts from Papúa New Guinea identical to one Pat Southerland showed me at the UofA back in 1974 she found at a dig on Queen Charlotte (now Haida Gwai). Good ideas including tool technology move quickly.
This is further confirmed when Peter Fidler (the first European) travelled from Buckingham House to southwestern Alberta in 1793, the indigenous already had horses, and Spanish swords, and were trading with the Nez Perce. That trading and material transport took less than 150 years to take place.
very interesting
thanks!
There's a solid date of ~18,000 years ago in eastern Oregon, at Rimrock Draw -- so this is earlier than the early dates in Idaho around 16kya.
Clearly those people, and the folks at White Sands (~21kya) did not arrive there from having travelled south through the ice-free corridor.
Nice to see actual physical data that shows a pre Clovis settling of North America. Where the oldest samples are at the southern most area of the corridor and then slowly making their way north. It’s amazing how prevalent the idea that the Clovis culture was the first people dominates still in non academic circles. Very interesting presentation.
Clovis doesn't even bear a resemblance to anything found in Siberia, the inhabitants of which used a completely different technology in constructing their tools and weapons, with the vast majority of Clovis artifacts being found in the east.
@@slappy8941 any research that puts Clovis in the rear view mirror is away forward for really understanding human evolution
A 600 mile hike over bare rock, scraped clean by glaciers. Nothing growing, just rock and ice. How did they carry enough food for a 600 mile hike?
@@garybowler5946 it was pretty lush by the time it was passable. I live in that area. You have to remember that there was a LOT of meltwater in the area that was scraped by glaciers once the corridor opened. Which is why they are suggesting that people didn’t pass through when it initially opened. It would have been very wet, boggy and lots of kettle lakes. But after a couple of thousand years, and the water drained off, down the middle of the corridor is the Main artery removing water, the Yukon River, but also lots of tributary creeks and other rivers that made their way into the Yukon River. For the southern region a lot of the water made its way to the Mackenzie drainage basin. Anyways, it was quite passable with lots of fauna and flora that populated the area as soon as it was possible. Food was in abundance by the time they travelled the corridor. Also, they were nomadic people that prepared a lot of dried meat for long periods of travel. If they did encounter areas of ice scraped areas that were barren of life they could have travelled few hundred kilometres easily.
Thank You, I will contact YBIC to relate an Early Man Tool/Projectile found in situ relative to Monument Draw in Andrews, Texas for examination in the hope of supporting this continuation of study.
I'd love to know the game herds and animal types at the time of that fluted point.
hasn't the conceprt of an ice free corridor been shown to be false? Why would two adjoining edges of massive ice caps melt first? It doesn't make sense.
There was a river system that created that corridor. Do you believe in the existence of the Grand Canyon? It's something similar but instead of a river chipping away through the middle of mountains, they are chipping away ice at the end of the last Ice Age. There are a lot of geological studies showing when the corridor opened up. And it didn't open up just once but several times because in the last 3 million years there have been many periods in which the ice sheets expanded and retreated
@@nataliajimenez1870 the formation of the grand canyon was completely different. But regardless, humans moving into north america would have followed the coasts. the weather would have been less extreme, those areas would have been devoid of ice first, and the ability to travel by canoes would have been more expedient than walking. You need to think this through, b/c the old stale paradigm you keep pushing doesn't add up.
In 1992, construction workers were digging up a freeway in San Diego, California when they came across a trove of ancient bones. Among them were the remains of dire wolves, camels, horses and gophers-but the most intriguing were those belonging to an adult male mastodon. Hammerstones and rock anvils were also found. After years of testing, an interdisciplinary team of researchers announced that these mastodon bones date back to 130,000 years ago. It called the Cerutti Mastodon site. Extremely interesting.
@@MelissaR784 yes i've brought this up on a number of channels. this historic theory that we've been force fed about the peopling of north america is wrong. evidence refuting this theory has been ignored for decades. anthropology has become dogmatic and is not science based as long as it operates this way.
I don't buy it that people who carried tool stone into Alberta from long distances were trading for items like hides and meat. It is not like there were no hides and meat in their homeland. I don't know how much a buffalo hide weighs, but packing it from Alberta back to, let's say Montana, which was totally infested with buffalo, is not good economy. Maybe a better speculation would be that they were trading for wives, slaves, specific breeds of dogs, etc. Trade goods that they would not have to carry, but that would have great value back in the homeland.
I would love to have a job like this that has no consequences, whether you are correct or incorrect. I still can't understand the condescending tone or the arrogant over-celebration of triviality. What am I missing here?
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Thank you for this great video, this information as an enthusiast from the Mid Atlantic is fantastic. Thumbs up and subscribed.
If indeed people used the ice free corridor they would've found the land full of folks who came there many thousands of years prior. In fact I've yet to see any human relics that have been pulled from "Beringia". All of this is only conjecture with next to nothing to back it up.
You do know Beringia is under water?
@@cacogenicist You do realize they've been fishing and dredging the bottom for many years. They should have brought up many many fossils and relics yet there's nothing there and next to nothing on the beaches surrounding. It's like Atlantis with less proof.