Lost Oasis: The Ice Age Archaeology of Utah's West Desert
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 พ.ค. 2022
- Explore the end of the last Ice Age with archaeologist Dr. Daron Duke.
12,000 years ago, the most desolate place in the United States--the Great Salt Lake Desert--was quite the contrary. Vast wetlands drew Utah's first inhabitants, gave refuge to its last Ice Age megafauna, and anchored a key waterfowl flyway. From the largest spear points on the continent to the earliest evidence for tobacco use, archaeologists can now highlight the unique contribution of this place to the story of human settlement of the Americas.
Daron Duke is a Principal at Far Western Anthropological Research Group and has worked in the Great Basin for 25 years. He specializes in early-period archaeology, precontact land use, and stone tool economy. He received a Ph.D. in Anthropology in 2011 from the University of Nevada, Reno.
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It was the right decision to gate off Danger and Jukebox caves. Lots of ancient history there! Same with Hogup Cave, too!
Great. I've lived and worked throughout the Great Basin. I've seen a lot of stuff that I don't understand. Looking forward to hearing more.
Great names for the bigger ones:) I had described looking for intaglios over vast areas of desert to an engineering friend and he informed me there is new software that's able to identify very small variations or disturbances on the surface of open terrain. Different from LIDAR as I understood it.
Great work on this. I am so interested in the history of this amazing area. Did you ever dig the second site? If so please make an update to this video.
Loving this presentation very much.
Thank you kindly!
I was a Utah state Forester running fire crews at turn of century. I met a utah local who described finding a cave site on the north west corner of salt lake basain. I never believed him telling about finding 6 spear heads ...he described them just lije that "needle"
Sounded lije a very extensive site they only found due to wildfire supression
Super interesting! Brings life from the past to our world of today!
Congrats for your door opening finds.
Speaking a as modern hunter, those rougher points can be more effective at dropping game as a single hunter. The Haskett pts. are elegant and beautiful. They also seem fragile as Clovis were.
Thank you so much for putting this on youtube. I was hoping to listen live but had to miss it. I love Dr. Duke's work, and really appreciate his knowledge of Utah's ancient history, and the lithic technology of the Bonneville Basin, and that he shares it with us.
Our pleasure! We will surely have more to come from this area, so stay tuned!
@@utahshpo I sure will! Thank you!
@@utahshpo a fraud!
@@utahshpo BOOOOO ...FRAUDSTER!
@@TheModernDayMountainMan ...stop.
Really enjoyed this type of lecture with fine examples
Glad you liked it!
For a phony class assignment or what? I know you.
@@artifactsantlersoh "The Fields of These People" Check with the BIA! Love you!
A straight-tusked elephant species is the largest tusker to have lived and perhaps the largest mammal ever.
That’s pretty amazing stuff. I have become more and more interested at the transitional Ice Age time period. All of the evidence is starting to stack up to show that there were people between 10 and 20,000 years ago in the Americas. also, I have noticed there are quite a few sites scattered across America that show mammoth kill sites. Even in the south eastern US where I live, they have found a few. It’s really interesting. I have often wondered how they tested stone points for Protane residue. I think it’s fascinating that archaeology is learning more and more about the people of the world but especially in America because for the longest time we only thought people went back 10 to 12,000 years now we know it’s longer. I recently found a rough out or blank of a projectile point that showed signs that it was fluted, but had a shorter shape than the Clovis and Folsom points. Try to get an archaeologist to look at it but couldn’t manage to get anybody interested. Kind of strange. I think the tobacco seeds were great. That is an amazing find, and I know that tobacco is considered to be a sacred plant to many Native American tribes. I had a mentor many years ago, who was very gracious in teaching me about some of their ways but of course it varies from tribe to tribe and they should donation. This is a really interesting dig. I had no idea there was all that stuff out there in the great Salt Lake basin. too bad I’m not out that way I would love to volunteer on a dig as well and I’m a veteran so I had a clearance. Hope to see more like this.
If you want to learn more, a wonderful book came out a few years ago that covers the Paleoamerican period: uofupress.lib.utah.edu/people-and-culture-in-ice-age-americas/. You're right that we do have evidence of people in the Americas around 20,000 years ago, though here in North America our dates tend to be a little younger. More discoveries are made all the time, so we all expect that date to get pushed back in time... but just how far know one knows!
@@utahshpo indeed. Thank you for the tip and the link. I’ll check it out. I did some of my training and my learning overseas and the time periods go way back over there. It boggles the mind. I think as we have more extreme weather, it will reveal more through massive, sudden, erosion, etc. That’s how I found a lot of the artifacts I found last year in the Carolinas. The combination of alternating severe thunderstorms and drought. Pushed things to the surface. Almost literally. I’ve never seen anything like it. Keep up the good work out there and the Midwest/Southwest and I will be looking to see what new discoveries you make.
Interesting talk thanks. The Obsidian doesn't tell where the people come from or travelled to, it shows that trade was more than likely.
Good point. It has the ability to do both. I think (Elizabeth's professional opinion, not the author's!) that in the Paleoarchaic/Paleoindian Period we consider that people's high mobility puts them into contact with high quality toolstone. From that, we make the Ocham's Razor assumption that the toolstone in people's pockets are the result of direct procurement, instead of trade (that would require friendly interaction with a group that has something to trade and is willing to trade). It is by no means 100% guarantees that this is how obsidian ended up where we find it, and it is an assumption that could use more study to be sure!
Those who slaughtered these tribes in the past 160 years, knew these sites existed, after mapping them during what they call colonization. Unlawfully, Utah State Preservation Office provides these educational institutions the maps. They go knock on door after door to ask property owners if they can excavate when knowing it was illegal to do. Taking unfair advantage of these farmers and ranchers with most being elderly. Then they act like they are "discovering" artifacts when the figurines would not be fired if prehistoric they were carved. Tin cans were invented in France in 1810. Using tin cans in firepits would heat up the minerals in the mud/clays they mixed to make their figurines solid pieces. These figurines were fired as in a kiln you use in pottery, ceramics... These are not before 1830 at the very very best. By claiming these are prehistoric, in order to obtain millions fraudulently in funding. Ask yourself why they aren't claiming the accurate dates...? Because many from these institutions were kicked off sites and I know of two (2) occasions where they were arrested and put in jail. One excavation was in Egypt and the other was in Ecuador. They've been in trouble before and can only excavate pre-historic artifacts. Contact the BIA (Bureau of Indian Affairs) to confirm my posts. The regional office in Arizona also, confirmed what I witnessed on the property of my friends I've known since 9 years of age, the same property my mother quilted quilts for them, my father took them AAA grad milk, same property, where shot my documentary footage at. This is fraud and sickly disgusting. (what else) I have to be careful not to spoil my entire experience documenting what I was blown away witnessing.
@@l.ellei.sorensen4121 you are probably right about that. What is your documentary?
@@T.J-and-Soul Yes! Hello! It's entitled, "The Fields of These People" How do I give you my telephone number?
@@utahshpo Was this a reply from the head archaeologist's point of view, the ones involved in a class who took them out there to this location they knew existed and knocked on this door or that door to gain access to these sites? Or, Chris Merritt who told me he would take care of
everything, but the man from his office, David Yoder? Was the one out there. The regional office didn't even know the ground was opened up.
The landscape we see there is relatively new. At the end of the ice age massive floods scoured most of the area clean and gouged out many canyons and river beds. Any foot prints found there were laid down after the flooding events. Right before the area dried up due to climate change.
Nice point. However, a woman who lived in Wendover found an 18-1/2" spear point near hear here. Its real. I've seen it. Its the finest surface find i have ever seen. She died a few years ago. Her daughter , I believe has it.
Is this where the just found the footprints?
Which, came from my friend or another person irrigating the property...?
Doesn't anyone question? How did they know where to LOOK? From the colonization of these areas, they had the maps from Utah Historical Preservation Office and the Regional Offices. SMH!
So what is your opinion of the footprints in White Sands
For anyone wondering what this comment refers to: www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0277379120305722
Recently some remarkable footprints of Ice Age human footprints were discovered in White Sands, New Mexico. These footprints from an adult and child just happened to hit the geological sweet spot and were preserved in the mud of Ice Age New Mexico. I (Elizabeth) love these tracks and their ability to connect us emotionally to a long ago past! Research is on-going, and is a race against time to learn all we can before these tracks are blown away - literally - as this region is in a state of constant erosion.
Another attempt of LIVE SCIENCE for further fraudulent posts and excavations, see below@@utahshpo
@@utahshpo ...still. It was someone irrigating! LOL, They no nothing about the mud out there nor the contents of the soil or they'd release that so society had proof there's no way these were before 1850.
@@l.ellei.sorensen4121 desperate for attention
Or… migrating geese carried tobacco seeds from the east where it’s more prevalent.
hahaha...no way! Thank you for responding. If any archaeology comes from Utah is more than questionable. Working for the Historic Preservation Office gives you access to maps so an easy uncovering of what you knew would be there. They look like UTE artifacts!
UTE, Paiute, Anasazi what's the difference all the same people just different tribes. Just like cro-magnon the Europeans all the same people that became the European countries.
@@alonzowitt5931 I may have been lied to but I have read the that the Cro-Magnon DNA markers were studied and are singularly absent from modern Europeans. In others words they were "replaced"/shanked.
@@dwightehowell8179 Yes! I called the carbon dating facility and they thought was one of the male archaeologists out there. I finally had a chance to ask this woman, "Did you tell Jim Allison, Chris Merritt, David Yoder, or anyone at BYU?" She replied, "I'm telling you". Then I said, can I come put you in my documentary? She said you have my information. I replied, "No". She asked, "Who is this?" I said, I'm shooting a documentary on my friend's property and this would be so wonderful!" (I was so shocked she was sharing with me the facts surrounding this site.) She asked, "Are you a BYU student?" I replied, "No." Repeating what I was doing out there and I asked for any and all permissions, my friend's granted me and BYU was instructed to comply, but they haven't. She then asked me to have Jim Allison call her, she can only tell him. (Then I called my friends, and finally, they (BYU, UofU, and UVU) were asked to leave. After they left and during their time out there digging. (It is not excavation to discover anything you know is already there, it is digging and disrupting illegally what they shouldn't be doing. They knew what was out there on more than this property.) I continued to dig! Getting proof of what they are digging up and turning over to the BIA (Bureau of Indian Affairs). They knew this was and is a sacred burial, ceremonial grounds. (Think of the movie "The Fugitive". Times that by over 17 M artifacts illegally excavated and stored in an educational facility funded by grants and in a short period of time, these sick people took in 51 M, from what I was told. They knew they couldn't do what they were doing yet put all private property owners in jeopardy of losing their land.
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9:30 🙄 anyone in 2024, after the unassailable conclusions of the discoveries at the White Sands trackways, who still promotes “Clovis-first” or Clovis-first dating like 13ka peopling of the Great Basin should not be taken seriously.
Trackways that date to over 20,000 BP have been found. If this guy or anyone else doesn't like it bleep them. The date he gave for first Americans is ludicrous.
Just my opinion, but I think he stated the first natives of "this" area aka great basin. We know that people populated the Americas as fare back 30,000 years ago.
@@alonzowitt5931 How many thousand years do you think it takes to populate a continent? You are talking about a location within walking distance in months.
@@dwightehowell8179 I love you Dwight.
Please list at least three published papers that are probably behind a paywall to prove that people were in Western Utah at different times than he says…
PhDs are not supposed to use “you know” while lecturing.
thats the longest knife ive ever seen...its not a point.
As a fellow Archaeologist that thinks highly of your work, and has worked in the same area, I see no good evidence to separate the Haskett point from the rest of the Stemmed Complex. The 3,000 year"change through time" is fully unsubstantiated. The definition of a Hasket verses a Cougar Mountain seems to change with preference D??? and be an arbitrary one. It makes no sense from a knapers' point of view. If people are "smart", why do they stop understanding economics over 3,000 years? The Monte Verde points are in the Stemmed point style, with the tradition covering most of the Pacific coast and into the Great Basin for 8,000 years (16,500 to 8,500 bp). My neighbor once brought over an "arrowhead" found high in a cave in the Wasatch. Imagine my shock at seeing a 7.25 inch Lake Mohave Style Stemmed Point, very nicely flaked and almost as long as your excellent find. It had a subtle shoulder half way up (Lake Mohave). It is my interpretation of the site data, that Hasket, Lake Mohave, Cougar Mountain, and the whole "Stemmed Complex" includes about three original forms (Hasket, Cougar mountain & Lake Mojave), and that these are all contemporary in time for approximately 8,000 years. It is also now apparent that they are all made pre-Clovis, and last untill the fluted points have come and gone. They get reworked into the smaller Lake Mojave, Silver Lake, Parman, Pinto, Bonneville, and Dugway Stubby's that we see all over the playa, and over the whole time span.
LETS JUST AGREE TO DISAGREE
This is NOT a good video!