USED Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart - Common problems and should you buy one? | ReDriven used car review
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The Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart is like Liam Hemsworth-not quite as tough or cool as Chris, but still much more refined than Luke. After a decade of driving across thousands of kilometers, is it faring better than Liam's marriage to Miley, or is it doomed to fail?
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The Hemsworth comparison of the lancers had me dead 💀
Just Australian things
Everyone else: why you drive like a maniac?
Me: if I don’t my gearbox will break
It's the funniest car because of that. If you have a sport exhaust on it, props to Mitsubishi because my OEM Lancer Ralliart exhaust was the nicest sounding of all stock exhausts I've heard. In Sport Mode, it is so much fun, raising the rev limiter. Still, I would point out that the Ralliart is far more reliable than the Evo. There is less pressure on the engine thanks to the single-scroll turbo and the lower torque. It all wears less on the Getrag transmission and the engine block.
You guys deserve all of the likes and subs possible. I, admittedly, only started watching about a year ago… but I was immediately hooked. Yall are mad cool, knowledgeable and easily digestible. Thank you guys, for the great content.
Congratulations on success of Redriven! Glad hear it, well deserved 🎉
These cars needed a good review, glad you guys did this great video. Keep up the good work. 👍🏻
Had a 2014 Ralliart for 6 years and I never had an issue. Had a turbo back exhaust on it for 4 yrs and ran beautifully. Very reliable car
I bought a 2011 Lancer Ralliart Sportback new from my local dealer and now, 12 years and 110k miles later, it's still going strong. Luckily for me, no transmission issues so far. The main issues have been that one of the front daytime running lights burns out a couple of days after the bulb is replaced--not worth the cost to track down that problem so I just live with it. That may or may not be related to the other issue I have which is that the audio system volume control on the steering wheel sometimes engages my phone. Again, it's not worth the cost of the repair to fix so I just use the volume control mounted on the actual factory audio system (I have the factory Rockford/Fosgate audio system). The leather seats help make the interior seem more upscale, and I love that the factory navigation system allows the audio system to store mp3 rips of CDs you put in the system, so that after a while, you have a music server built into your dash. I have some 200+ albums always available in the car without having to stream from my phone. I probably have one of the few completely stock Ralliarts still on the road. It's a fun, mostly trouble-free car. By far the best car I've ever owned.
I'm actually excited about this one. My 2009 lancer sportback was the most reliable car I've ever owned. I always wished I'd bought the ralliart... but even the 1.8 mivec was thirsty.. They ride really smooth with lower springs and gas struts. Even on my "09" the traction/stability control was brilliant. Edit.. Yeah, 18L/100 is absurd for 240 hp. Glad I swapped for the Leon Cupra.
Ah yes, swapping for a parts bin volkswagen. What a great choice 🤡
I don't think its possible for the fuel consuption to be that bad. I've tracked my Evo IX over the years and my absolute average is 12L/100, and then consider the 4B11T is a far more efficient motor than the 4G63T, that claim just doesn't pass the sniff test.
Completely different generation of engine tech in a 2000 lancer had an iron block to start with
18L/100 you must drive lke you stole it, 7.9 on a trip
@@kris8742 Oh I don't get 18, I get 12 but I'm also not really economical at all when driving the Evo.
If I drive my other 2L turbo, the OPC, I get 8-9L/100. Do more long distance driving but its also just newer technology.
Mate, one of the best I have seen. Thank you.
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I can definitely say that servicing the transmissions in Mitsubishis really needs to be done at at least 40,000 ks. My wife has a 2017 standard model and it’s nice on the open road but a bit shit around town. They will last only if maintenance is done.
Just picked up some wipers. Cheers for the discount ReDriven. You bloody legends!! Great vid too gents. Nice one.
Enjoy!
We have a base ES 2.0 NA since new 2013, now has 240k on the clock and NOTHING is broken. Fitted exhaust headers early on and fuel use is 6.8l/100 being manual.
I was looking into buying one of these soon so this came out at the perfect time
It’s a nice car. Wife used to have one until it was let go due to transmission problem. It was well maintained, serviced every 2 years with fluid and filter change. I am disappointed with its failure and will never get a car with that SST again. I have a Evo x manual now which is way better but also much more expensive
At what mileage did your sst get problems? And also, did u know what the problem was?
@@RedZekester milage was around 120k km. I forgot the exact code. It occasionally gets stuck in first gear in both manual and auto mode so the car is not really drivable when it happens
Dead on review of the Ralliart. I ended up purchasing a 2010 Sportback in an attempt to find 'one of those cool cars that never really caught on and nobody knows about'. I remember back in 2010 seeing one at the local Mitsubishi dealership in the Rotor Glow Orange color and drooling over it, and I remember nobody really every buying them and then them just disappearing along with the Evo in 2015.
I bought one that pretty much fits checks all the boxes of what to avoid, as you correctly described 😂. The clear coat is shot and has been buffed to the point of burning through the base in a couple of spots, it has a very agressive tune on it of questionable origin with boost tuned to around 25 to 27 psi, several dings/dents, and was owned by a previous owner at some point who called him P**SY SLAYER (according to the bluetooth in the aftermarket android headunit).
However, it is completely rust free underneath and has a multitude of decent upgrades including Evo turbo and intercooler, ETS Intake, Magnaflow exhaust, and upgraded engine mounts. Roughly about $4k worth new when I did the math.
I picked it up with a non-working SST for around $4,000 USD and swapped in a used valve body I bought off Ebay for 200 bucks to make it move again. SST still needs rebuilt, as it slips a bit on top end, and I ended up picking up a spare one (with a detached fork magnet) to rebuild and swap in.
For the money I spent on it, it's a hilariously fast and fun car to drive. (I do feel it's a bit of ticking time bomb but oh well.....slowly working towards getting it not to be). I'd be hard pressed to find any other car capable of what it can do for the little I've spent so far.
In my opinion with what I know now, I'm not even sure I'd buy one of these at full price that had been decently maintained. This is due to the long laundry list of legacy issues the SST transmission had over the years. If I were to purchase a 'nice' Ralliart (or MR Evo for that matter), I'd want one where the SST had been rebuilt by one of the few reputable shops capable of doing it properly, with receipts.
Wow! that is a unicorn. Thanks for the video. The reason your site is growing is quality content, great production, um, questionable humour with some comments resulting in belly laughs. You tell it how it really is. I hope you never get near an MGTF 160. I would let you have mine, but it is euphemistically call a "garage ornament" .
Love my ralliart! I've had it for 4 years now and put on 40k miles. This is the most accurate review of the ralliart. I've decided to modify and maintain my ralliart myself and it has done me well. If taken care of and properly modified they are great and fun cars.
Did you have you any problems with SST?
What have you modified? I am looking into getting a borla exhaust for my 2015 ralliart
@alymabdullayev1757 I did a service when I got it and kept up on it ever since and were going on 70k since I got it.
@justinchapman5238 simple bolt ons and supporting mods to make sure it runs like a top. Ets intake, full exhaust catch can is a must coughed up enough for the MAP. I flashed S sport on it and only run it in that. Hope it helps.
I dunno clearly never driven a Vrx Magna with the factory 6G74 or swapped 6G75
Deep burbley great sounding engine sound and with high quality exhaust modifications can sound amazing for a big v6
a sportsback with nice wheels and a good ride height look great! also has that surprise factor as nobody thinks its turbo or fast!
"I thought this would have a similar ride quality to an old BMX" - far out I love this channel 😂
7:37 Since you mentioned the bass player. I can also confirm that the sedans trunk can fit a Marshall 4x12 cab (slant front) with the casters on.
This could have been an awesome collab with Motoring Box and Shaun's Ralliart he just restored. Edit: My mistake, it was a Ralliart Magna Shaun restored. Which would also be a good video in itself :)
those Magna Ralliarts are hidden gems.
Such a great review and shed some light on my own experiences with the transmission and heat/slipping issues when driven in the CBD. The comments about dealerships suggesting replacing the entire transmission are why I sold my Evo 10 back in 2011 as the bill was going to be a ridiculous amount and back then there weren’t many workshops willing to touch it.
The SST maintenance is crazy, in the UK to get the oil filter, and oil just for the transmission is about £200. £200 on gearbox every 2 years..... Too many used owners neglect this
200 every 2 years?? is cheap
Same price for my Audi DSG. Seems a fair price.
that is cheap bro. Brake fluid change is 180eur every two years.
Imagine thinking that £200 is a lot of money 😂
@@rsoul7282tis a lot of money for maintaining something normally not needed in regular AT or MT cars. U know nothing , do u?
Only sad these don’t come in a 6spd. Although flappy paddle action is intriguing. 🤔 great review AK and Jim keep the content comin’ 🤙🏻
Mine is a 6 speed. Maybe you're thinking of the non-turbo lancer?
I'm not sure about using only Mitsubishi oil. The Getrag DC470 and Getrag DC430 are used by Mitsubishi, and the smaller one is used by Volvo and Ford. The Ford and Volvo oil also work, and many say that Castrol Transmax Dual Clutch works as well. This is because Mitsubishi sells the DiaQueen oil under the name Castrol BOT 341 in Europe and Western Asia, including Saudi Arabia, considering that it is the Transmax, it's highly unlikely that Castrol makes a special mixture of a few thousand liters in each region just for one OEM. For example, in the US, because of some ingredients in the Mitsubishi SAE 90, it was temporarily banned, and Mitsubishi announced that dealers would have to use Eneos 80W90.
The lancer evolution is a gemstone of a car ❤
FINALLY I BEEN WAITING 2 YEARS
I love these Lancers great overall reliably, they even look cool in entry level form.
I’m in Melbourne. Had a 2009 Lancer ES for 200k kms. Then a 2010 Evo X MR dual clutch until 185k kms. Now I’m with my second Evo X MR, this one 2014 100k kms. Only ‘issue’: timing chain replacement on my first EVO. They are very reliable if you don’t do stupid mods and service them properly.
Thanks! I had written these off as front wheel drive, I did hear the brakes were a little small.... I had no idea they were AWD and had a flappy paddle. Half way through, expecting bad news about the gearbox though LOL!
I have a 2010 Ralliart Sportback and have had every problem these cars have, including SST failure, cracked manifold, abs control module failure, stretched timing chain, ACD pump failure, and more. It's a VERY expensive car to own, repair, and maintain. Those who deny that fact are delusional. Appreciate your video.
Damm, how long you owned it? And did you daily it or tracked it? I have a 2012 Ralliart Sportback, so far only had SST failure
@@gabrielgirardi4993 since 2017 and counting. Never tracked or driven hard.
My favorite budget sports car.
I had a 2009 ralliart for 10 years and 200,000k. Only mods was an ams boost pill and tune. That car hit track days doing double session and never missed a beat both at the strip and circuit. Servicing was expensive but that was cheaper than letting it grenade. I loved that car!
I have one, having a heck of a time finding a factory ralliart front bumper. Gosh dang deer.
Mine is a sportback I'd like to know production numbers but can't find anything.
My standard Lancer Wagon is nice but I'm definitely saving a up for a Ralliart.
Mates one has a turbo issue where the turbo stays closed stopping all boost at some times. You can't fix it and you have to upgrade to either an Evo turbo or something more.
I had a 2010 liberty gt. It was cool, but geez it was lots to run and maintain. Sounds like this would be similar...love it...but scared.
I can't get over those Audi esque headlights
That gearbox gotta get swapped ASAP. Fun Cars otherwise they just have the internals on the sst made of glass.
I had a built 500whp MR and it was great but it was NOT cheap. Original sst melted, had it swapped out by kozmic motorsports for a hp10HR. Full bolt ons otherwise and a slightly better turbo and that thing hauled absolute ASS. Sad I sold it but, also happy. Would have got a GSR If I had better ones around at the time. The trans sucks OEM but engine wise that thing was a work horse. I autocrossed and dragged it often during summers and outside of doing plugs and drive train fluid and engine oil, the car was a hoot. It also helps that my tune on it were from people who specialize in evos which is also very important for the cars health.
Hey ReDriven, have you guys looked at q50 or q60 red sports, same motor as the new nissan Z for up to half the cost. Would be interesting to see what you guys have to say about them.
Hey ReDriven, you guys should do a review on the late 90s to early 2000s Lexus is200s or is300s
Well well… guess what used car channel is published a review on a first-gen IS200 next week?
Been there, done that. Fast car but 98 fuel at 13 litres per 100kms, and insurance wow. $800 just for the transmission oil and that ticking Timebomb of a transition. And those speeding tickets. No thanks. But a fun fast car
I bought a base manual black coloured ES Lancer new in 2008. Two things continually peed me off about that car. 1. The paint so easily chipped and the rear dog legs past the rear doors were particularly susceptible to chips and sand blasting effect from debris thrown back from the front wheels, and to a lesser extent the rear doors themselves. Problem was exacerbated by Mitsubishi using a white undercoat under the black top coat which makes every stone chip stick out like dog's balls. 2. There was literally no where you could comfortably rest your right arm while still being able to hold the steering wheel. The arm rest on the door card seems to be there for decoration rather than functionality and is poorly placed. Long road trips were very tiring because of this.
I'd love a Evo 4 gen
F80 M3 DCT shifter works this way too. Just like a 00s DTM 😜
Another great material guys! Thanks. Anyway still prefere subaru
I’d buy a MY13 widebody WRX STI instead… well I already did!
I had a MR and my sister bought one as well a few months later, I sold mine at 5000 ks .
She has hers to date.
Recently she a service on the dual clutch auto, it was slipping not engaging in reverse and drive was slacking and not changing in time. Mind you, she always left it too late for regular service and it stood at 80,000ks.
Service on the transmission was book and oil was ordered with total cost of $2,100.
$890 for some oil not olive oil $370 for filter and $810 for labour.
That's very hefty.
It does not drive like the original still problems with it,but Mitsubishi thinks it is like brand new,and can't solve the problem. It does not drive like before harsh and rough gear changing.
End of the day, its worth shit for all that money.
I hate to tell you this but your sister was scammed. The trans oil is expensive but is way cheaper than that. I get mine from Opie Oils. There is a Volvo filter that is the exact same for less than $50 USD. Labor wise, it's super easy, coming from a guy that hates working on cars. They're are TH-cam vids on it, it takes about an hour. Usually 6L trans fluid will do. Total cost, roughly $350 USD for oil, filter and an hour labor. I'm really sorry she got scammed you should leave a bad review at the shop.
Why are you taking it to the Mitsubishi!? Those idiots are scammers.
At least take it to a performance shop.
If you’re in Texas tell her to take it to Kozmic performance
I think that this Ralliart that you are reviewing actually has a whole EVO bodykit, with the fenders and wing being most noticable, the normal Ralliart cars definately look a little more tame than the EVO at least from factory.
Pretty sure the vents are stickons and the front bumper is still a ralliart, the wing is an evo wing tho
@@vsonn5478 Actually the front bar looks every much like an Evo bar. I don't know if they updated it for later years, but initially (from memory and what I can find on google) the front bar wasn't black to the edge, and had a silver trim lining around the edge. The side vents are 100% not standard, the hood vents are though. The 4B11 wouldn't survive without them. Those headlights sure aren't stock either.
It really is a sore spot in the Evo community, when people dress up regular Lancers to look like Evos, with the CY4A platform it became even easier to play barbie. Its not so bad on Ralliarts because they have the performance to back it up and they're largely highly respected, its all the rest of the riff raff.
The vortex generator is also not stock but at least its actually doing something for the wing hes put on it.
@@EnvyCT9AI have a Ralliart and I just wrapped the chrome trim black, seems like this Ralliart also painted part of the front lip black to imitate the Evo. The Evo front bar has 2 slits in it for more air into the intercooler and thus a side-mounted plate, this one does not have either. The side-vents on this Ralliart are almost definitely stickers because the Ralliarts fenders are not as wide as the Evos and would need a fender and bumper swap. Seeing these Lancers once in a while, they all look very similar. But once you get used to them, you can tell them apart very quick
I own an Evo X, and was able to buy a whole Ralliart that had a bad SST trans for only $2500 US. I needed the engine, and a 4B11T without the car cost more than I paid for the full car.
What are u gonna do with the parts car 😮
The Ralliart came as a sedan? I never knew until now. It seems that the hatchback was much more common.
Any cars that compare for the price and performance of these raliarts? (aside from the reliability)
Can you please review kia rio 1.0 turbo gt line?
Nice
I am more of a hatch person but the only 2 cars I like better in sedan is the CJ lancers like this and the new Mazda 3.
Time for an Evo X review!
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Can’t you get them with a manual transmission?
100 with you in the direction of the shifter pull/throw. Towards you should be up not down:)
Why is this channel recommended for the viewers in Poland? Anyway - it's great.
I have 2010 lancer D E , and just under 2 months ago, a dodge charger cut me off, I hit a small pothole and my brakes locked up.
Now, every single light on the dash is on, from ABS, service engine soon, check engine etc etc...
I am so stressed out, as the shops in my city, can't fix the issue.
I had 1 shop clear / reset the computer, and they even inspected it for free, and put on the lift, and they were totally stumped.
I have also been told , that after the oil change, 02 sensor, and spark plugs were replaced, that Mitsubishi has to recalibrate the system?
Always carry a spare cam angle sensor
What's better than a new Re Driven video?
Winning 2 million dollars on lottery.
Couldn’t agree more
@@ReDriven It is better, but only just.
Would love for you guys to review my Evo X MR, to prove to the haters its an amazing car!
Plz check out the Mazda 6
The Tyler the creator cameo is just beautiful
I don't recommend buying SST equipped cars unless there are mechanics specialized on the SST around you. I bought a 2012 ralliart with 40k miles that never had a gearbox oil change. First thing I did was changing the oil, but problems eventually appeared anyways
Don’t buy a used SST.
Got one new and it has never given me problems…
@@LP-bt4jk there are folks out there who rebuild those SSTs and make them better than new, really
Owned one, when gearbox was in auto it would change into 6th doing 50kmh, I assume to save fuel. It also beeped inside when car is in reverse. Horrible
Red head light running light is asking for a canary
Is the fuel economy really that bad at 13-17L/100kms?!
We nedd a Evo x Mr Review
Can you recommend an SST specialist in Newcastle or Sydney?
Evolution Racing Spares or rpmotorsport
@@KebabEater+1 for RP
Only can afford Liam, but I guess I'm happy enough lmao
Wanted to buy one when they came out, but they didn't come with a real transmission so yeah nah...
I'm looking at several cars.. Higher end is A45 AMG or Volvo S60 Polestar. Mid range is Volvo V40 crosscountry T5 or Lancer Ralliart & on the low side is Ford Mondeo XR5
XR5 is an engine that ford and Volvo shared. It’s a good one. For the Merc, unless you are doing all the work yourself it will send you broke faster than you can get rid of it. The Ralli Art will appreciate in value and all the parts will be available for ever. Also, a front LSD, upgraded turbo and a bigger front mount intercooler.
Just keep the original parts for the next owner. The polestar stuff was a software upgrade of the engine tune (that you have to pay for) plus some suspension tuning. If you want polestar it’s because you want polestar
@@theairstig9164 Yeah I like the Volvo T5 engine. The S60/V60 Polstar also has a bigger turbo & brakes compared to the R Design. I want a V60 Polstar but only 200 were brought into Australia.
I love them and as DIY I wud buy 😅😅
Nothing on the Sigma GSR, or a Scorpion, WTF happened to Mitsubishi?
the prices are so high for a good one you might aswell buy an sst evo x
That car is even more money
A friend of mine purchased a Ralliart he found with a dead engine and built it at around 400hp. Forged pistons and rods, Evo Turbo, camshafts, Evo wheels, Evo brakes. Should I buy it at around 15k USD? It will be a weekend car.
Yes
The red driving lights are a bit Ginza Astro-boy ...just saying.
Hear they are good cars if you change the oil every 5,000Klm, oh and don't forget the engine oil every 10,000Klm. Pitty is the 5,000klm oil change is a bit pricey.
5000km oil changes is pretty typical for japanese performance cars
@@arcanevoid9199 Was taking the Mickey. Referring to the dual clutch gearbox oil.
Like as in, Subaru, change your spark plugs every second head gasket.
Bring back the EVO!
Such a shame both EVO and STI are gone 😢
Given the Volvo EX30 and MG4 dual motor variants will out-everything the mitsu GTO, Evo X and the WRX STI for less money and cost less for everything except tyres, it’s time to move on. Even the Cupra Born will give a Golf R a good scare these days with no chance of being picked out of a line by the cops from a loud and increasing pitch exhaust as the waste gate is pinned open by the drivers enthusiastic right foot
Used to own one got it for 9k with 60k. Best car ever..... until gearbox started slipping 😢😢
Get the trans built
As much as I'd love to own one the fuel consumption and transmission are just too big of a red flag for me to consider buying.
I had too laugh at the safety overview because that was easier to understand that most EDM/dub step artists (which i personally can't stand as a genre lol😂)
Again the TBTL factor was missing on this one guys so I'm wondering if you're dropping that feature from the videos.
Overall good work as always guys and as per usual looking forward to the next batch of videos from yourselves 👍.
Cheers mate! Yep, TBTL is gone for the time being. Trying to cut down on the runtime a little to tighten up the videos
@@ReDriven could put the TBTL factor in the 5 things we love/hate shorts or do a TBTL factor compilation video on Wednesday of the previous x weeks review cars. Just a thought.
There’s a bunch of places we could put it, but for now I think we’re just going to focus on tightening things up a bit.
@@ReDriven all good guys. Keep up the good work and look forward to today's review lol
UK here, owned 3 Gallants in the 1980's, 2 Maxima 3 Litre in the 1990's ALL those g/boxes failed around 70,000.
Could it have something to do with the driver perhaps 😮😂😝
No because it only happened with those two brands, never on Ford, BMW, Jag, Saab etc.@@scribzone192
Yeah these never did it for me. Being based on the VR-X but with the Evo's running gear was kind of the sticking point - the contemporary WRX was the better car for spirited driving in pretty much every aspect, especially when it got the power bump in '09.
Wrx won't have the same engine reliability of the boxer and the manual box was also a weak point
@@andy2906 the EJ25 is pretty much the same as the 4B11T, in that it's only as reliable as the bloke who tunes it. Stock standard you're not going to have many problems at all. The manuals in later WRX weren't chocolate like GCs were either, and it's a whole lot less temperamental than the SST in the Ralliart. Still, you don't want to be doing clutch dump full racing starts on a regular basis.
Please please don’t buy anything that has been modified unless it has been done properly & you have proper paperwork.
There has to be something seriously wrong for that kind of fuel consumption! A properly sorted example should return easily 9/10l per 100kms in a heartbeat
Damn is that Rhodes?
Sure is
The EVOs WRX
poor Luke
if only these came in a manual
(YEAH)!
I have an evo x but it’s second hand and it was never stated in its history but the transmission was completely ripped out and a ralliart was put in instead so I have the lower trans on the highest car🙃 I actually had to get it rebuilt too but I lost the s-sport and was told not to put it back on but I genuinely miss it and can’t tell what I should do. Driving it in only sport has lots of extra slip so it’s not as great as it used to be, besides that make sure to look fully into the car even driving it can tell you learn from my mistake I guess😕
ouch
Wow buying used Evo’s are so sketchy
My 2014 Lancer GSR Sportsback has a bigger engine(2.4L) & has more mod potential & I want that hood!
4B12 < 4B11T pal
@@semicolon101there's no replacement for displacement.
its pointless without AWD, just a FWD shitbox
@@keponen331didn't stop Marty with Too sexy on Mighty Car Mods.
@keponen331 I have a one pegger 1980's fwd with manual , I have gapped many of these dct ralliart's from the traffic lights.
It all comes down to set up .
Did you guys get rid of your patron?
This owner is incredibly lucky if you didn’t notice any rattles. Especially with that sub in the boot.