I was too tall/long for most of the types I was considering so maybe that will help you narrow it down! Shoulders/head size and height are good measures.
It's a great thing that people are starting to talk about Kibbe body types and seasonal color analysis and what fits them. This way, people see the beauty within them than comparing it to others! Lovely post!
@@charlotteblum7037please don‘t Forget that this is Just a Model-a theory. But Models can Never Show the whole complexity of the real World! Otherwise they WOULDN‘T be models
Kibbe got my body dysmorphia trippin on a whole new level. I could look like Nicki Minaj or Mary-Kate Olsen, no friggin clue. But I do enjoy your content exponentially, so thank you.
This is probably the best explanation of the Kibbe body types I’ve seen. Everyone always uses the jargon attached to Kibbe, but never bother to explain what those words mean or how it presents. I’ve binged all your other vids and I’m excited to see more!
Right. The kibbe subreddit is not helpful at all because everyone interprets the descriptions differently. Looking at the same photo, one person will say "the shoulders are blunt" while another person claims "the shoulders are sharp." It should be more objective but it's really very subjective.
I would love for you to cover each type from head to toe. Casual looks, work looks, swimsuits, accessories, jewelry, hair, makeup. Get us ready to buy for spring shopping. Also how to adjust if your essence is different than your type. PS the music is a little loud near the middle of this video and it made it a little hard to hear and concentrate on what you were saying.
Can you show several examples of one body type featuring different people with one body type in one video? For example showing 10 real people with just the dramatic one day. And cover a different body type with it's own video. This video was great, but I feel like you flew real fast through the types and each had only few like 3 photos of that body type.
I watched this video last night, discovered I'm a Theatrical Romantic, and for the first time in maybe my life, today I looked at my body with prided and love, rather than the feeling I've always had of "must lose weight." I could see my actually gorgeous curves and love them. It makes me feel like crying. Thank you so much for introducing me to this system.
right? I look best in what would be considered soft natural, but I am 5'8", so soft dramatic fits, but I look like I am in a costume when I wear really glamorous clothes, and I feel like it too.
I was thinking the same thing. I'm not even considered tall at 5"7 where I'm from, but it keeps saying everything above 5"6 is natural or dramatic. 😂 Am so confused.
@@raquel5401 try staying within your category then. if you fit soft natural criteria but you are tall you are a curvy flamboyant natural. Tall curvy women are often misplaced in the soft dramatic category because people forget that flamboyant naturals come in curvy too. Look at Jennifer Lawrence for reference. She has a rounded bust and hips but that is not her dominant trait. Her dominant trait is blunt width throughout her bone structure
I discovered Kibbe last year and it’s been life changing for me. I’m a dramatic and I have embraced masculine and tailored clothes. It has made dressing so easy
I'm dramatic as well I can't wear blazers cause I have dropped shoulders and poor posture so it looks awful, I hate looking masculine any tips to embrace it?
I wish you had more examples of what these body types look like on bigger plus size bodies because I've always kind of teetered on the edge and it's hard to see myself in really any of these body types because my I tend to have softer shoulders and softer everything but I'm also on the taller side so the romantic body type looks the most similar to me but I'm like five six pushing seven so I'm like a little confused on exactly where I would land
The key is to reduce the "Kibbe types" to their core principles. Look at your bone structure. Which do you think is dominant: Verticality? Width? Balance? Petiteness? If you were to draw how fabric falls on your body, how would it look? Would it stretch around your shoulders? Drape around the hips? Drape out the bust? Or would it fall straight from your shoulders to your feet?
I'm also kind of confused about the height limits cause I'm average height but I look really short and wide, which kinda goes against the rule that everyone above a certain height will have a long line
Yes I feel like it should be relative. Like dutch people are usually tall. So even though I’m on the tall side, I’d definitely be short there. And like even 50 yrs ago it was different. My Grandma was considered really tall at like 5’4!!
This is the best explanation of this system I’ve seen! I’ve been confused about what type I am and I thought I was some sort of romantic because I am curvy, but I never felt comfortable in the suggestions for that type. I never considered my height in this and I am too tall to even be a romantic. My body type seems to be a soft dramatic and the tips and suggestions for that type are so much more me. Thank you for helping me to finally figure this out!
@@bozieduble8541 That could be the case. What kind of a body do you have? Are you also on the taller side of the spectrum? And do you have any specific types of clothes you know really well with you? The descriptions of a dramatic felt very correct for me. I have always had long/large limbs while still being curvy, but not in the way that romantics are described here. Long lines, like a long jacket, work really well with me as well as long dresses etc. Are you maybe similar?
This was really helpful. I'm still not sure if I'm more a flamboyant or soft natural but narrowing it down to naturals really helps. Thanks for this guide!
Ayyy I feel similarly, I can’t tell if I’m theatrical romantic or soft gamine but at least I’ve narrowed it down after watching this four times, doing a quiz online, and asking a best friend for help hahaha. Trying >:))
I am such a soft natural! Even after your other video explaining this it never ceases to amaze me I finally know why I can wear off the shoulder drapey things or even just sweatshirts so well. If I wear a structured blazer or jacket I look like an overly strict teacher! It was tough in the working world to not look good in the classic business casual clothes but I have learned how to tweak it and buy ruffle sleeves, doleman sleeves, or drapey blouses.
Loving this video 😊. I’m pretty sure I’m a soft classic too, but finding youthful and trendy clothes has been a challenge. I’m not enjoying getting dressed, all the clothes feel so plain and boring. Would love if you did a video on edgy soft classic looks!
I wonder whether the height limitations on the Kibbe types need to be updated, because on average, people are taller now than in previous decades. Because of my 5'9" height, most of the categories are automatically ruled out. Yet when I took the test, Dramatic Classic was the closest to my score--except that I'm too tall. I don't feel like many of the A answers describe me (I'm not that thin) or many of the Bs either (I'm not that wide). Maybe I just need a pair of more objective eyes, haha.
I agree completely! You will never convince me that I’m not a soft classic. Ruling out double curve for tall people is insane, because some people have really really short torsos…
@@kiararose2366 same I’m 5’8 which rules out most body types but I’m pretty sure I have a double curve, and I know she doesn’t like the old classification system but I’m an hourglass I look good with my waste accentuated but according to the video my closest type shouldn’t accentuate their waste so I’m just confused
The music! Halfway through she was talking so fast and the music got louder. Couldn't make out what she was saying when she finally got to what I think is my type.😢
This video helped me more, than any test ever did. How you explained soft dramatic just hit home, when I think about what I look best in and feel most comfortable in. Fx I prefer dresses over skirts, how I like big statement jewellery over small delicate ones, why I look great in colour blocking or big prints, but a small floral print just looks of. I'm a soft dramatic ❤️
These videos are helpful, but I’m confused when I see celebrities listed incorrectly. Audrey Hepburn was above average height. She was 5’7. She couldn’t be a ballerina because of it. I have seen her listed as gamine in Kibbe other places too, so I wanted to point this out.
I hear you 😂 I placed myself as Dramatic Classic after taking the quiz. ALL wrong hahaha. A professional typing cleared things up. Romantic. Couldn’t see the petiteness/delicateness as I always think myself to be heavier than I am 🙈
Going into this I already knew I was soft dramatic but you really sold it when you said our heads looked small 😭😭 I’ve always felt this way and try to compensate by having big hair 😂
Brilliant video. My only small criticism is that the music becomes too loud after a while and i found it difficult to hear your lovely voice. Your editing is normally spot on so no doubt it's just one of those things but thought i should just give some feedback 🥰
Just found out your channel! I’m loving it. I think it would be very helpful to categorize myself if we could get “normal people” and not celebrities because I feel like I dont look like any of those 😭. Maybe a subreditt where we can upload our picture for you to use? 🤔
ive always struggled figuring out what my body type was- i am a typical 90-60-90 (cm) but i never really felt like i fit the romantic grouping because my shoulders and waist had a sharper, less rounded outline. when i saw the theatrical romantic part explained like this it just clicked! thats exactly why it didnt fit!
Thank you so much for this explanation. When I took the test, it said theatrical romantic. Then I thought since I was tall, it was soft dramatic. Now, I'm convinced I'm Dramatic Classic. It's spot on.
On future videos could you try to show more pictures of people of color just so its easier to envision these styles? Also could you talk more about what trends and cuts suit each body type? Thank you!
this video is so great!! i know its from a year ago but i just discovered it + your channel, ive been into kibbe for a couple of years but your videos have cleared up any confusion i had or anything i misunderstood. i used to think i was a soft natural for sure but watching this made me realise im most likely romantic body type :)
@@oliviasepelak3083 exactly. I think I'd fit most closely into the romantic but like... I'm 5'7. I think there is a whole lot of body types missing from this system and it's not nuanced enough to fully encompass every variation of bone structure and fat placement....
@@marissahartshorn7049 I feel exactly the same way - although i respect the intentions behind these kind of videos I’m majorly distrustful of trying to “categorise” your body from a limited series of categories made my some random person, regardless of how much they claim to understand “body types” - especially when everyone’s bodies are so so different! Style tips are well and good but when they start implicating that your body has to look a certain way for you to confidently wear certain things I think it’s worth trying to maintain some separation from this mentality (especially as someone who’s struggled with understanding my body for most of my life)
this helped me to understand the categories more and I think I can categorise myself as a flamboyant natural after watching this, but I wish you had used more mid and plus size examples to make things clearer for everyone and not just slim/athletic/thin people
I have a pixie kind of look. I’ve always looked better with medium to short hair. I’m 5’2 and 90lbs-115lbs (due to ED it varies), but no matter how thin I am I don’t really look under weight. I’m kinda naturally big boned while also very petite. I feel like I’m fairly sharp, my shoulders seem a little wide and when I’m at a healthy weight I’m a curvy petite (like 35-26-35). My limbs are pretty small. My torso and legs both seem pretty short with how I’m built. Even when I am health my hips are very bony and you can always see at least some of my rib cage on my chest. So I’m guessing I’m probably a gamine or a flamboyant gamine. I can’t go off of how I see myself because body dysmorphia is legit, but going off of how others refer to how I look I guess I’m a gamine but I’m not sure
Oh lord thank you for this video. I've tried taking the Kibbe test twice. In the first round I was placed as a soft classic, but I'm 5'7" almost (halfway between 5'6" & 5'"7), so that placed me in the dramatic classic and that didn't look right at all based off of the images and description given. The second time through my answers were skewed with C5, B4, D3, E3 and I couldn't place myself at all. Your explanation along with the examples you provided (alongside another outside viewpoint from a friend) I've been placed as a dramatic classic for certain. I think prior it was just really hard for me to place myself based off of the description that the person had. Thank you so much!
Weirdly can’t decide wether I’m dramatic or flamboyant natural😂 I’ve watched this and other videos many times and I keep going back and forth between the two!
This system seems to exclude a particular group of body shapes.. depending on context I can fit both very yin and yang features, but I am certainly not a gamine. I can fit in between 2 and 5 different archetypes, which is hella confusing lol
Great video, I'm learning so much from you!! I don't know if it's just me, but I find it's much harder to hear you when the music kicks in around 7:00.
i think my body is a combination of soft dramatic and classic. my face is much softer looking compared to my body, people always think im shorter than i am when im sitting down because i have a small face and my torso is short. they are often suprised that i have long limbs and 5'7. i can wear something that shows my figure but it cannot be something too feminine. Anything with floral patterns, laces or peter pan collar looks very unflattering on me. I can never seem to pull it off no matter what i try.
ive never worn anything w a peter pan collar before until very recently. I asked my aunt if i could borrow a shirt for my job interview and she gave me a button up shirt with a peter pan collar. boy i was shocked when i looked in the mirror, it was so awkward and unflattering on me. I find that "softer" looking clothes don't work out for my body type.
I've watched lots of Kibbe vidoes, which has only added to the confusion. The way you present however is really clear and I found this so useful. I had been swaying between several possible Kibbe body types, but now I am sure that I'm a soft dramatic!
Can you talk about this in terms of plus sizes? I find it hard still to identify with one of these, but I find this very interesting so I would really like to find a way to incorporate some of these elements
You're the 1st person I've heard say that dramatics can be short too. I'm 5'2" but I look 6' in pictures. It's been very confusing to find my type because I don't seem to match the types that are in my height range (according to others TH-camrs)
My extremely rounded and small shoulders is what help me to know I was a romantic and not a gamine. My bone structure is very rounded, almost no existent
Going in I thought I’d be a romantic type, but I definitely have more angular shoulder as well as prominent hip and collar bones, so maybe a gamine type? I’ll have to look more into it because this is fascinating. Great video!
Thank you. I believe I’m a Soft Natural. I read Kibbe’s book, but the examples he gave are from the ‘80s, lol. My body looks like Helen Mirren, only that I’m 5’1” tall.
Omg!!! Best channel on kibbe ever I went to Reddit and they said I am petit so I must be soft gamine! But the usual gamine recommended lines do not look good on me at all!!!!! My own outfits look somewhat gamine but like a mix of SG, classic and natural and then they look good on me!
Hello, Just wanted to put in a suggestion. Could you do a video of the main body type: romantics, natural, classic etc And then do a video each for each types under the main body type? The video is quite long and feels like it’s all over the place 😅 sorry for the not so positive comment. I’d really like to know more about the Kibbe types from you
Hey! Would u ever do a shopping video? Like go in a store and pick out clothes that fit the different body types? I’m a visual person so it’d be really cool to see examples of how to shop
use to hate having long limbs but these days, i really love them. happy i was born with long limbs actually. seeing other women, dramatics and soft dramatics, look so beautiful make me feel happy i use to get called daddy long legs. i like that name now
honestly, the kibbe system has made me resent my body. i spent a lot of time trying to figure out my image ID and i keep running into the fact that my body shape, pear, just... doesn't fit anywhere. i am most probably a gamine but all gamine descriptions say you either have to have a straight figure (FG, G) or have to have boobs (SG), same with every other image ID except dramatic but i'm definitely not one. if anything, the kibbe system has made me resent my lack of boobs and the overall shape of my body more than ever
So, I am confused (only a little bit) about the height part of this: as a 6'3" woman, which body types are left for me to fit into? Am I automatically a dramatic, or are there other body types that can be this tall?
I’m just ignoring the height thing. It’s too limiting. I’m 5’11” but proportionately I’m a romantic. Soft dramatic just doesn’t fit my proportions. Not my fault the world is too short. Put me in with the taller populations and I don’t Look tall anymore. I never look Tall, I just look huge. Next to skinny tall people, I look plump and juicy lol
@@PrinceDuCiel7 I see. In my case it's not so much clashing like that, more that I have not enough realistic perspective on what I actually look like so I'm not sure if I'm a skinny dramatic or a wide natural, let alone which subtype out of those, or if I'm a dramatic body type with natural essence even. (Essence, even harder to pinpoint in myself. The more I try the less I have an idea what the hell I even look like 🙃)
according to Kibbe the only types us tall women can be are Dramatic, Soft Dramatic, or Flamboyant Natural-- that is, unless he doesn't KNOW your height lol. He typed Audrey Hepburn who was at least 5'7", as a Gamine type, which he said can only go up to 5'5". He typed Rihanna as a Theatrical Romantic, even though she is 5'8". Part of the issue for me is recognizing that different ethnicities can have common traits that Kibbe with his Western and Eurocentric lens, didn't consider. For example, many Black women have full lips and fuller figures, and many African American women are average height and above. If large hips and behinds are a romantic trait but height is a dramatic trait, are most Black American Women Soft Dramatics? I don't think so. I think it's important to take into account proportions and relative height. I have a huge head which makes me look disproportionately shorter sometimes, and I am very blunt and not sharp at all. So I know I am not a Dramatic, I think I am more of a softer natural. ALSO check out Kitchener's Essences, see if that helps y'all. Sorry for the essay lol.
@@oliviamurphy9482 Kitchener helped but also confused me more (am I dramatic but with natural essence?) But I think now that I'm flamboyant natural lol.
OMG thank you! I always size DOWN in my tops. I was in complete dysmorphia land due to being overweight for a long time, but I am 5'9'' so this was really messing with me. lol I don't have enough curve to be a soft dramatic, not enough width to be a flamboyant natural. That leaves dramatic! I've been incorporating some looser fabrics here and there to work with my 'additional flesh' while I'm overweight so that seems to be working, but full glam looks a bit much on me - minimalist looks work better, so I guess I'm pure dramatic :) thank you!
This s is more confusing 🤣 m tryna figure out ( I have narrow shoulders, long legs, and when I gain weight I gain in equal parts of my body but a lil more in my lowe body)
I’ve done one of the Kibbe tests before, and I got Soft Classic, but I’m 6’ tall. It didn’t mention height at all, so now I’m more confused. Maybe explains why people are always surprised I’m 6’ tall!? I’ll be standing right next to someone and they’ll be like “no way?! You don’t look that tall” and then I’ll show them I’m as tall as they are and they’re shocked more lol
since all of the other types basically have heigh limits does that mean at 5'9" i would automatically be a dramatic? i feel like i identified more with the classic/slightly natural in the kitchner so its interesting to see the difference with this one. i dont have a lot of angularity in my face but my body is definitely "sinewy" with long limbs, and even when i am at my fittest i dont look athletic at all. but i dont have the curves to fit soft dramatic. is it common to identify with a totally different category in kitchner vs kibbe?
i have always heard that above 5'10 you are either dramatic or soft dramatic. At that height, your vertical line is just the most dominant feature no matter what. this is very true for me (6 feet tall), I could tell instantly I was a soft dramatic and there's no feature I get commented on remotely as much as "tall". but I don't know what that means for people who are on the border at 5'9-5'10. you should go with what makes the most sense to you, you know yourself best :)
I am wondering the same thing, I am 5 10 with an hourglass shape and I’ve been told I wear my height well (as in proportions) I’m not convinced I’m a soft dramatic-because it’s all a little confusing!
@@cb9299 i have the fleshier curves that seem more aligned to SD than D and have always gotten the "hourglass" type comments. I tend to look best in longer lines and things that might be oversized, drapey and heavier fabrics - basically like she says, things that would often look overwhelming on other people seem to be less so on me
Wonder video, I was very much interested to hear and learn more about my body and style. However it was to much info all at once to process. If possible could you do more vids, that explains body types/styles in different segments. Please
I saw so many overlapping bodytypes in those photos that I am completely confused now. If weight doesn't play a role...what do you do with a big tummy?
It’s not really a case of “can”, you can dress however you like. But vertical is always dominant for anyone over 5”7 which means they are always going to look best in long lines!
no matter how many times I look at stuff like this I have genuinely no idea what my body type is. It all looks the same in some ways to me, I understand the differences but I feel like the specific details blur when comparing to myself.. I don’t even know what fruit shape I am lol
I have had my essences done by John Kitchner and I’m the “Ethereal” with a touch of the others. I have a soft body with curves , soft features in my face but im almost 5’ 11’ so im confused on what body type I would fit in according to the kobe body types. I don’t see one that would match a tall ethereal?
You have put so much work into this excellent video but I found it very hard to hear you over the music💞 can you delete it? I’d rather listen to your lovely voice 💞💞💞
This whole concept seems overly fussy and makes coming up with outfit ideas unnecessarily restrictive. No idea why this is being dredged up from the 80s. It also doesn't make much sense: both Marylin and kate Moss have a hourglass shape (it's about the with of hips and shoulders towards the rest of the body), so I don't see why Kate Moss would be categorized as angular ("Yang") and Marylin as a "Yin". Keira Knightley is a pear shape, she's also not "angular" all over. People should just have fun with fashion and not worry about pointless body type systems.
Thanks so much for your channel. Your work and the way you describe kibbe is much easier to understand. I know kibbe since 2019. Could you make a video about wedding dresses or wedding outfits for kibbe types?
My body dysmorphia won’t allow me to decide which body type I am lol
I was too tall/long for most of the types I was considering so maybe that will help you narrow it down! Shoulders/head size and height are good measures.
Same🥲
😂👏🏼 exactly what I was thinking
Same 😭
I think I Need to measure my limbs hah
Great video, but the music that comes in when you’re talking about Naturals is so loud it’s hard to hear you.
I was about to comment that
I came here to say this. I muted the remainder of the video and relied on the CC
I agree! Very distracting to the information being provided. It was louder than your voice
Same, it was getting annoying
Literally just stopped the video to comment on the same thing.
It's a great thing that people are starting to talk about Kibbe body types and seasonal color analysis and what fits them. This way, people see the beauty within them than comparing it to others! Lovely post!
agreed!
So true! 😊❤️
I disagree. None of these types discribe me. Makes me feel awful.😢
@@charlotteblum7037please don‘t Forget that this is Just a Model-a theory. But Models can Never Show the whole complexity of the real World! Otherwise they WOULDN‘T be models
Kibbe got my body dysmorphia trippin on a whole new level. I could look like Nicki Minaj or Mary-Kate Olsen, no friggin clue. But I do enjoy your content exponentially, so thank you.
This is probably the best explanation of the Kibbe body types I’ve seen. Everyone always uses the jargon attached to Kibbe, but never bother to explain what those words mean or how it presents. I’ve binged all your other vids and I’m excited to see more!
Right. The kibbe subreddit is not helpful at all because everyone interprets the descriptions differently. Looking at the same photo, one person will say "the shoulders are blunt" while another person claims "the shoulders are sharp." It should be more objective but it's really very subjective.
I would love for you to cover each type from head to toe. Casual looks, work looks, swimsuits, accessories, jewelry, hair, makeup. Get us ready to buy for spring shopping. Also how to adjust if your essence is different than your type. PS the music is a little loud near the middle of this video and it made it a little hard to hear and concentrate on what you were saying.
Oooooo yes. 👌🏻
The middle of the video is definitely difficult to hear.
i was going to mention it as well. i rather hear your explanations than loud music. thanks so much for the videos!
Can you show several examples of one body type featuring different people with one body type in one video? For example showing 10 real people with just the dramatic one day. And cover a different body type with it's own video. This video was great, but I feel like you flew real fast through the types and each had only few like 3 photos of that body type.
Yes yes yes! And i. The same video showing many examples of different people featuring only one body type on one video.
I watched this video last night, discovered I'm a Theatrical Romantic, and for the first time in maybe my life, today I looked at my body with prided and love, rather than the feeling I've always had of "must lose weight." I could see my actually gorgeous curves and love them. It makes me feel like crying. Thank you so much for introducing me to this system.
Theatrical gang 🎉❤
"Soft naturals are never above 5'6..", tell me Kibbe's never been to Scandinavia, without telling me Kibbe's never been to Scandinavia.
hahahahaha
Exactly
Im 5.7-5.8 and in no Way do I fit into the dramatic type
right? I look best in what would be considered soft natural, but I am 5'8", so soft dramatic fits, but I look like I am in a costume when I wear really glamorous clothes, and I feel like it too.
I was thinking the same thing. I'm not even considered tall at 5"7 where I'm from, but it keeps saying everything above 5"6 is natural or dramatic. 😂 Am so confused.
@@raquel5401 try staying within your category then. if you fit soft natural criteria but you are tall you are a curvy flamboyant natural. Tall curvy women are often misplaced in the soft dramatic category because people forget that flamboyant naturals come in curvy too. Look at Jennifer Lawrence for reference. She has a rounded bust and hips but that is not her dominant trait. Her dominant trait is blunt width throughout her bone structure
I discovered Kibbe last year and it’s been life changing for me. I’m a dramatic and I have embraced masculine and tailored clothes. It has made dressing so easy
I'm dramatic as well I can't wear blazers cause I have dropped shoulders and poor posture so it looks awful, I hate looking masculine any tips to embrace it?
The music is really throwing this video off for me. It's too loud for how loud you're voice is in the mix.
I wish you had more examples of what these body types look like on bigger plus size bodies because I've always kind of teetered on the edge and it's hard to see myself in really any of these body types because my I tend to have softer shoulders and softer everything but I'm also on the taller side so the romantic body type looks the most similar to me but I'm like five six pushing seven so I'm like a little confused on exactly where I would land
The key is to reduce the "Kibbe types" to their core principles. Look at your bone structure. Which do you think is dominant: Verticality? Width? Balance? Petiteness? If you were to draw how fabric falls on your body, how would it look? Would it stretch around your shoulders? Drape around the hips? Drape out the bust? Or would it fall straight from your shoulders to your feet?
Same, I watched this whole video and am more confused now than when it started lol
I'm also kind of confused about the height limits cause I'm average height but I look really short and wide, which kinda goes against the rule that everyone above a certain height will have a long line
@@VanK782 What's your height?
Yes I feel like it should be relative. Like dutch people are usually tall. So even though I’m on the tall side, I’d definitely be short there. And like even 50 yrs ago it was different. My Grandma was considered really tall at like 5’4!!
This is the best explanation of this system I’ve seen! I’ve been confused about what type I am and I thought I was some sort of romantic because I am curvy, but I never felt comfortable in the suggestions for that type. I never considered my height in this and I am too tall to even be a romantic. My body type seems to be a soft dramatic and the tips and suggestions for that type are so much more me. Thank you for helping me to finally figure this out!
I've watched this video a dozen times and I'm still confused. By the sounds of it though, I'm having the same issues you had?
@@bozieduble8541 That could be the case. What kind of a body do you have? Are you also on the taller side of the spectrum? And do you have any specific types of clothes you know really well with you?
The descriptions of a dramatic felt very correct for me. I have always had long/large limbs while still being curvy, but not in the way that romantics are described here. Long lines, like a long jacket, work really well with me as well as long dresses etc. Are you maybe similar?
same here!!
This was really helpful. I'm still not sure if I'm more a flamboyant or soft natural but narrowing it down to naturals really helps. Thanks for this guide!
Ayyy I feel similarly, I can’t tell if I’m theatrical romantic or soft gamine but at least I’ve narrowed it down after watching this four times, doing a quiz online, and asking a best friend for help hahaha. Trying >:))
@@sophiaredwood5825 I completely understand. Good luck!
@@nix2747 You too! 💞
Samee
I am such a soft natural! Even after your other video explaining this it never ceases to amaze me I finally know why I can wear off the shoulder drapey things or even just sweatshirts so well. If I wear a structured blazer or jacket I look like an overly strict teacher! It was tough in the working world to not look good in the classic business casual clothes but I have learned how to tweak it and buy ruffle sleeves, doleman sleeves, or drapey blouses.
I'm so confused
When you start the music and are explaining Natural tupe, your voice drowned out😮
Loving this video 😊. I’m pretty sure I’m a soft classic too, but finding youthful and trendy clothes has been a challenge. I’m not enjoying getting dressed, all the clothes feel so plain and boring. Would love if you did a video on edgy soft classic looks!
It's very easy to create an edgy effect as a Soft Classic, just 1/2 details will shift the entire feel of the outfit! :)
I wonder whether the height limitations on the Kibbe types need to be updated, because on average, people are taller now than in previous decades. Because of my 5'9" height, most of the categories are automatically ruled out. Yet when I took the test, Dramatic Classic was the closest to my score--except that I'm too tall. I don't feel like many of the A answers describe me (I'm not that thin) or many of the Bs either (I'm not that wide). Maybe I just need a pair of more objective eyes, haha.
I agree completely! You will never convince me that I’m not a soft classic. Ruling out double curve for tall people is insane, because some people have really really short torsos…
Yeah, I'm 5'11 and I suspect Kibbe barely considers me a woman at all.
@@kiararose2366 same I’m 5’8 which rules out most body types but I’m pretty sure I have a double curve, and I know she doesn’t like the old classification system but I’m an hourglass I look good with my waste accentuated but according to the video my closest type shouldn’t accentuate their waste so I’m just confused
Same, like, ok, I know I'm not a gamine, but theres almost nothing yang about my frame, even tho I'm 5'9"
Yes, gamines are not supposed to be above 5'5 (hope I wrote that correctly) but Audrey Hepburn apparently is one at 5'6/170cm
The music! Halfway through she was talking so fast and the music got louder. Couldn't make out what she was saying when she finally got to what I think is my type.😢
Being overweight makes this frickin impossible man. No clue what i am.
Thank you! I’m definitely a romantic. This helps a lot! I’ve been struggling with my style and how I dress and this is so helpful!!!
That’s great to hear I’m so glad it helped you!!
This video helped me more, than any test ever did. How you explained soft dramatic just hit home, when I think about what I look best in and feel most comfortable in. Fx I prefer dresses over skirts, how I like big statement jewellery over small delicate ones, why I look great in colour blocking or big prints, but a small floral print just looks of.
I'm a soft dramatic ❤️
These videos are helpful, but I’m confused when I see celebrities listed incorrectly. Audrey Hepburn was above average height. She was 5’7. She couldn’t be a ballerina because of it. I have seen her listed as gamine in Kibbe other places too, so I wanted to point this out.
It might be about the height she's *perceived* as
@@infinitespiral6758 but then Kibbe always emphasizes that tall women can only be one of three types, lol. Contradictory
Kate Winslet is wrong too. She's 5'6 and has long arms and legs. She wears a size 10 shoe. No way she's a romantic. I personally think FN.
Kibbe verifeid many old Hollywood celebrities based on the characters they played and as style inspo
@@rainnnnnnn This whole thing just seems like bogus, none of it makes any rational sense or has any discernible consistency.
I can’t really put my finger on what I look like thanks to body dysmorphia.. I’m probably going to watch this video 6 times to figure it out😂😅
I hear you 😂 I placed myself as Dramatic Classic after taking the quiz. ALL wrong hahaha. A professional typing cleared things up. Romantic. Couldn’t see the petiteness/delicateness as I always think myself to be heavier than I am 🙈
Going into this I already knew I was soft dramatic but you really sold it when you said our heads looked small 😭😭 I’ve always felt this way and try to compensate by having big hair 😂
Girl same 😂
Brilliant video.
My only small criticism is that the music becomes too loud after a while and i found it difficult to hear your lovely voice.
Your editing is normally spot on so no doubt it's just one of those things but thought i should just give some feedback 🥰
Just found out your channel! I’m loving it. I think it would be very helpful to categorize myself if we could get “normal people” and not celebrities because I feel like I dont look like any of those 😭. Maybe a subreditt where we can upload our picture for you to use? 🤔
ive always struggled figuring out what my body type was- i am a typical 90-60-90 (cm) but i never really felt like i fit the romantic grouping because my shoulders and waist had a sharper, less rounded outline. when i saw the theatrical romantic part explained like this it just clicked! thats exactly why it didnt fit!
Thank you so much for this explanation. When I took the test, it said theatrical romantic. Then I thought since I was tall, it was soft dramatic. Now, I'm convinced I'm Dramatic Classic. It's spot on.
Great video, just the music is a bit distracting for me.
On future videos could you try to show more pictures of people of color just so its easier to envision these styles? Also could you talk more about what trends and cuts suit each body type? Thank you!
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Please no music, can't hardly hear your voice. Great content by the way!
Most important video on your Chanel. Very informative and complex at the same time. Unfortunately the music makes it hard to understand.
cant wait to style my body with your tips!! I’m already looking flawless in my head 💅💅💅 LUV this!!
this video is so great!! i know its from a year ago but i just discovered it + your channel, ive been into kibbe for a couple of years but your videos have cleared up any confusion i had or anything i misunderstood. i used to think i was a soft natural for sure but watching this made me realise im most likely romantic body type :)
I feel like I absolutely do not fit into any of these-but I have a pretty warped sense of my own body.
Same! 😕 honestly, I want to like send her a picture of myself so.she can tell me? 😅
@@oliviasepelak3083 exactly. I think I'd fit most closely into the romantic but like... I'm 5'7. I think there is a whole lot of body types missing from this system and it's not nuanced enough to fully encompass every variation of bone structure and fat placement....
@@marissahartshorn7049 I feel exactly the same way - although i respect the intentions behind these kind of videos I’m majorly distrustful of trying to “categorise” your body from a limited series of categories made my some random person, regardless of how much they claim to understand “body types” - especially when everyone’s bodies are so so different! Style tips are well and good but when they start implicating that your body has to look a certain way for you to confidently wear certain things I think it’s worth trying to maintain some separation from this mentality (especially as someone who’s struggled with understanding my body for most of my life)
this helped me to understand the categories more and I think I can categorise myself as a flamboyant natural after watching this, but I wish you had used more mid and plus size examples to make things clearer for everyone and not just slim/athletic/thin people
I have a pixie kind of look. I’ve always looked better with medium to short hair. I’m 5’2 and 90lbs-115lbs (due to ED it varies), but no matter how thin I am I don’t really look under weight. I’m kinda naturally big boned while also very petite. I feel like I’m fairly sharp, my shoulders seem a little wide and when I’m at a healthy weight I’m a curvy petite (like 35-26-35). My limbs are pretty small. My torso and legs both seem pretty short with how I’m built. Even when I am health my hips are very bony and you can always see at least some of my rib cage on my chest. So I’m guessing I’m probably a gamine or a flamboyant gamine. I can’t go off of how I see myself because body dysmorphia is legit, but going off of how others refer to how I look I guess I’m a gamine but I’m not sure
Oh lord thank you for this video. I've tried taking the Kibbe test twice. In the first round I was placed as a soft classic, but I'm 5'7" almost (halfway between 5'6" & 5'"7), so that placed me in the dramatic classic and that didn't look right at all based off of the images and description given. The second time through my answers were skewed with C5, B4, D3, E3 and I couldn't place myself at all. Your explanation along with the examples you provided (alongside another outside viewpoint from a friend) I've been placed as a dramatic classic for certain. I think prior it was just really hard for me to place myself based off of the description that the person had. Thank you so much!
im definitely flamboyant natural! oversized draping clothes look so good on me i never knew why and now i do
Weirdly can’t decide wether I’m dramatic or flamboyant natural😂
I’ve watched this and other videos many times and I keep going back and forth between the two!
This system seems to exclude a particular group of body shapes.. depending on context I can fit both very yin and yang features, but I am certainly not a gamine. I can fit in between 2 and 5 different archetypes, which is hella confusing lol
Great video, I'm learning so much from you!! I don't know if it's just me, but I find it's much harder to hear you when the music kicks in around 7:00.
i think my body is a combination of soft dramatic and classic. my face is much softer looking compared to my body, people always think im shorter than i am when im sitting down because i have a small face and my torso is short. they are often suprised that i have long limbs and 5'7. i can wear something that shows my figure but it cannot be something too feminine. Anything with floral patterns, laces or peter pan collar looks very unflattering on me. I can never seem to pull it off no matter what i try.
ive never worn anything w a peter pan collar before until very recently. I asked my aunt if i could borrow a shirt for my job interview and she gave me a button up shirt with a peter pan collar. boy i was shocked when i looked in the mirror, it was so awkward and unflattering on me. I find that "softer" looking clothes don't work out for my body type.
I've watched lots of Kibbe vidoes, which has only added to the confusion. The way you present however is really clear and I found this so useful. I had been swaying between several possible Kibbe body types, but now I am sure that I'm a soft dramatic!
im still trying to figure out if im either a romantic or theatrical romantic, but this video was so helpful!
Yay I’m so glad this helped you!!
Thank you so much for this video! I now know that i am a dramatic and i look so much better in clothes. Thank you so so much❤️
Can you talk about this in terms of plus sizes? I find it hard still to identify with one of these, but I find this very interesting so I would really like to find a way to incorporate some of these elements
Half of them exclude women over 5'7, which makes it very hard to figure out what my type is, if I don't relate to the ones without height limit
You're the 1st person I've heard say that dramatics can be short too. I'm 5'2" but I look 6' in pictures. It's been very confusing to find my type because I don't seem to match the types that are in my height range (according to others TH-camrs)
This video was so helpful! Would love a video distinguishing between types that are very similar
This is great to hear!! Thank you I will add that idea to my list ☺️☺️☺️
My extremely rounded and small shoulders is what help me to know I was a romantic and not a gamine. My bone structure is very rounded, almost no existent
Flamboyant natural! That’s amazing! Thank you!
Watching this gives me so much more clarity as to why sharp lines rarely look good. I think I’m a romantic!! Ah!!
Going in I thought I’d be a romantic type, but I definitely have more angular shoulder as well as prominent hip and collar bones, so maybe a gamine type? I’ll have to look more into it because this is fascinating. Great video!
Thank you. I believe I’m a Soft Natural. I read Kibbe’s book, but the examples he gave are from the ‘80s, lol. My body looks like Helen Mirren, only that I’m 5’1” tall.
Omg!!! Best channel on kibbe ever I went to Reddit and they said I am petit so I must be soft gamine! But the usual gamine recommended lines do not look good on me at all!!!!! My own outfits look somewhat gamine but like a mix of SG, classic and natural and then they look good on me!
I think I’m mostly a soft dramatic with the width elements of a flamboyant natural. I find I gravitate naturally to both styles of clothes.
Can't hear the words thru the music :(
I was a little disappointed that the video ended so fast..I wish you went into more detail with the romantics
Hello,
Just wanted to put in a suggestion. Could you do a video of the main body type: romantics, natural, classic etc
And then do a video each for each types under the main body type?
The video is quite long and feels like it’s all over the place 😅 sorry for the not so positive comment. I’d really like to know more about the Kibbe types from you
You explained the 10 different bodytype really well. Thanks for sharing x
This is great information, I wish I could watch it...your background music is so loud that it drowns out your voice, making it challenging to follow.
Music was drowning your voice
Hey! Would u ever do a shopping video? Like go in a store and pick out clothes that fit the different body types? I’m a visual person so it’d be really cool to see examples of how to shop
I'm mostly identify as Apple body type and this is so hard to grasp 😭😭 how do I know what I am?
use to hate having long limbs but these days, i really love them. happy i was born with long limbs actually. seeing other women, dramatics and soft dramatics, look so beautiful make me feel happy
i use to get called daddy long legs. i like that name now
Thank you so much for this video! Could you cover essences next?
Yes absolutely!!! ♥️♥️♥️
honestly, the kibbe system has made me resent my body. i spent a lot of time trying to figure out my image ID and i keep running into the fact that my body shape, pear, just... doesn't fit anywhere. i am most probably a gamine but all gamine descriptions say you either have to have a straight figure (FG, G) or have to have boobs (SG), same with every other image ID except dramatic but i'm definitely not one. if anything, the kibbe system has made me resent my lack of boobs and the overall shape of my body more than ever
Amei o vídeo e como você articula bem as palavras, entendi tudinho. Muito obrigada pelo conteúdo incrível, com muita pesquisa e exemplos ❤️🇧🇷
just a suggestion but maybe no music? it sounded like you were fighting it with your voice by the time you got to naturals
I have watched a lot of videos on this subject and am still totally lost!
I love the way you did this whole video, well done! I couldnt smash the like button hard enough lol
So, I am confused (only a little bit) about the height part of this: as a 6'3" woman, which body types are left for me to fit into? Am I automatically a dramatic, or are there other body types that can be this tall?
I’m just ignoring the height thing. It’s too limiting. I’m 5’11” but proportionately I’m a romantic. Soft dramatic just doesn’t fit my proportions. Not my fault the world is too short. Put me in with the taller populations and I don’t Look tall anymore.
I never look Tall, I just look huge. Next to skinny tall people, I look plump and juicy lol
@@PrinceDuCiel7 I see. In my case it's not so much clashing like that, more that I have not enough realistic perspective on what I actually look like so I'm not sure if I'm a skinny dramatic or a wide natural, let alone which subtype out of those, or if I'm a dramatic body type with natural essence even. (Essence, even harder to pinpoint in myself. The more I try the less I have an idea what the hell I even look like 🙃)
according to Kibbe the only types us tall women can be are Dramatic, Soft Dramatic, or Flamboyant Natural-- that is, unless he doesn't KNOW your height lol. He typed Audrey Hepburn who was at least 5'7", as a Gamine type, which he said can only go up to 5'5". He typed Rihanna as a Theatrical Romantic, even though she is 5'8".
Part of the issue for me is recognizing that different ethnicities can have common traits that Kibbe with his Western and Eurocentric lens, didn't consider. For example, many Black women have full lips and fuller figures, and many African American women are average height and above. If large hips and behinds are a romantic trait but height is a dramatic trait, are most Black American Women Soft Dramatics? I don't think so.
I think it's important to take into account proportions and relative height. I have a huge head which makes me look disproportionately shorter sometimes, and I am very blunt and not sharp at all. So I know I am not a Dramatic, I think I am more of a softer natural. ALSO check out Kitchener's Essences, see if that helps y'all.
Sorry for the essay lol.
@@oliviamurphy9482 Kitchener helped but also confused me more (am I dramatic but with natural essence?) But I think now that I'm flamboyant natural lol.
I’m definitely a romantic. You describe me to a science 💕
Kibbe body types are zodiac signs for fashionistas
OMG thank you! I always size DOWN in my tops. I was in complete dysmorphia land due to being overweight for a long time, but I am 5'9'' so this was really messing with me. lol I don't have enough curve to be a soft dramatic, not enough width to be a flamboyant natural. That leaves dramatic! I've been incorporating some looser fabrics here and there to work with my 'additional flesh' while I'm overweight so that seems to be working, but full glam looks a bit much on me - minimalist looks work better, so I guess I'm pure dramatic :) thank you!
This s is more confusing 🤣 m tryna figure out ( I have narrow shoulders, long legs, and when I gain weight I gain in equal parts of my body but a lil more in my lowe body)
I’ve done one of the Kibbe tests before, and I got Soft Classic, but I’m 6’ tall. It didn’t mention height at all, so now I’m more confused.
Maybe explains why people are always surprised I’m 6’ tall!? I’ll be standing right next to someone and they’ll be like “no way?! You don’t look that tall” and then I’ll show them I’m as tall as they are and they’re shocked more lol
great video. hard to take it in with the volume of the music. You are a talented woman!
since all of the other types basically have heigh limits does that mean at 5'9" i would automatically be a dramatic? i feel like i identified more with the classic/slightly natural in the kitchner so its interesting to see the difference with this one. i dont have a lot of angularity in my face but my body is definitely "sinewy" with long limbs, and even when i am at my fittest i dont look athletic at all. but i dont have the curves to fit soft dramatic. is it common to identify with a totally different category in kitchner vs kibbe?
i have always heard that above 5'10 you are either dramatic or soft dramatic. At that height, your vertical line is just the most dominant feature no matter what. this is very true for me (6 feet tall), I could tell instantly I was a soft dramatic and there's no feature I get commented on remotely as much as "tall". but I don't know what that means for people who are on the border at 5'9-5'10. you should go with what makes the most sense to you, you know yourself best :)
@@kwf92 thank you!! just curious, what was it about yourself that made you realize you are a soft dramatic instead of just dramatic?
I am wondering the same thing, I am 5 10 with an hourglass shape and I’ve been told I wear my height well (as in proportions) I’m not convinced I’m a soft dramatic-because it’s all a little confusing!
@@cb9299 i have the fleshier curves that seem more aligned to SD than D and have always gotten the "hourglass" type comments. I tend to look best in longer lines and things that might be oversized, drapey and heavier fabrics - basically like she says, things that would often look overwhelming on other people seem to be less so on me
@@kwf92 interesting thank you!
I love how i’m way too tall for like 80% of the body types. Makes it a lot easier to decide which one i am.
I think I'm a ✨ *dramatic classic* ✨
Wonder video, I was very much interested to hear and learn more about my body and style. However it was to much info all at once to process. If possible could you do more vids, that explains body types/styles in different segments. Please
Plus add more full figured women's styles, because to be honest I can't see myself as your title ask...
my body dysmorphia is kicking in and stopping me from deciding which body type i am lmfao😭
I saw so many overlapping bodytypes in those photos that I am completely confused now. If weight doesn't play a role...what do you do with a big tummy?
This is VERY confusing. The women in each type look nothing alike. The explanation seems to be all over the place... and now I just feel fat
Try being a soft natural, I feel all bone!
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Bruh- I relate to your comment 💯
Nice! I think I’m a flamboyant natural 😊
Which one is the short torso hourglass with long legs and arms ...(.also hourglass as usual is a no no according to everyone but Valentino)
That was odd to me that the music started out of the blue.
I think you have a gamine essence, despite your body type is soft classic, you have this playful and joyful vibe :)
So tall women only have a few types and short women can be any type?
It’s not really a case of “can”, you can dress however you like. But vertical is always dominant for anyone over 5”7 which means they are always going to look best in long lines!
I'm definitely a Dramatic, but certain Gamine styles look well on me. They seem like opposites so I am not sure why.
I think I'm a soft natural! Very exciting 😁
no matter how many times I look at stuff like this I have genuinely no idea what my body type is. It all looks the same in some ways to me, I understand the differences but I feel like the specific details blur when comparing to myself.. I don’t even know what fruit shape I am lol
I have had my essences done by John Kitchner and I’m the “Ethereal” with a touch of the others. I have a soft body with curves , soft features in my face but im almost 5’ 11’ so im confused on what body type I would fit in according to the kobe body types. I don’t see one that would match a tall ethereal?
Really interesting. Love that movie and enjoyed your explanation of how her costumes helped portray her character!! Brilliant!! Thanks!
You have put so much work into this excellent video but I found it very hard to hear you over the music💞 can you delete it? I’d rather listen to your lovely voice 💞💞💞
This whole concept seems overly fussy and makes coming up with outfit ideas unnecessarily restrictive. No idea why this is being dredged up from the 80s. It also doesn't make much sense: both Marylin and kate Moss have a hourglass shape (it's about the with of hips and shoulders towards the rest of the body), so I don't see why Kate Moss would be categorized as angular ("Yang") and Marylin as a "Yin". Keira Knightley is a pear shape, she's also not "angular" all over.
People should just have fun with fashion and not worry about pointless body type systems.
Thanks so much for your channel. Your work and the way you describe kibbe is much easier to understand. I know kibbe since 2019.
Could you make a video about wedding dresses or wedding outfits for kibbe types?
omg! i think i may have figured out im a soft dramatic! so cool!