At the time of releasing this video, Rebels concluded almost exactly 5.5 years ago, because that is not an engaging video title, I rounded up to 6 years later
This is probably gonna be one of those videos people are watching for years to come anyway, the title will be obsolete almost as soon as it's accurate. Plus, I mean, you didn't specify exactly what point in the series was 6 years ago... so... *ahem* "what I told you was true, from a certain point of view"
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I love Rebels as much as the next fan but you opened my eyes when you said that The Clone Wars shows us what NOT to do as a Jedi whereas Rebels shows us the right way 🙏
@fofonablus7104 How? Sorry that this will come off as aggressive, but while Gold tries to explain it, it's clearly to keep that crowd happy, as he contradicts himself at 23:28 admitting the Jedi are selfless. It can't be both. Things that happen between Ezra and Kanan such as a close master apprentice relationship and working through emotions are common place. Just because Obi wan struggled to doesn't mean it never happened. In CW, a hand full of people perceive the Jedi negatively at the start of an episode, the Jedi pretend to not have an answer, and they just never explain or conclude that issue. It's no deeper than Obi wan's random complaints about politicians. And this is a recurring problem in CW's "themes". Plus, it ignores other *canon* lore like the existence of the Med Corps, the Agri Corps, the Exploration Corps, and Edu Corps which the Jedi established to heal impoverished systems. As well as disregarding Lucas's intent -- and no, Lucas helping with CW doesn't justify a retcon. He changes his mind all the time, and usually for the worst-- disregarding Lucas's intent for the Jedi's purpose and existence. And interpretating the CW portrayal as corruption is a stretch (unless our definitions are different). Making the jedi slothy old men ends up adding nothing and teaching nothing, besides paying lip service to real world western criticism of specifically western religions, which the jedi are NOTHING like* .
Honestly yeah. I remember thinking that Ezra and Kanan embodied what the Jedi should’ve been. They both succeeded not because of how powerful they were with the force or as duelists. No, they lost on those fronts, and rightfully so. It was how deeply connected they were to the force and their emotions, Kanan’s love for Hera and the Ghost Crew and Ezra’s love for them along with Lothal is what saved the planet and defeated Thrawn. They respected the Force and it was their ally to the end.
@@othervids3726Ezra's and Kanan's closeness is good, and was common place among the Jedi. We only get glimpses and inferences in the movies bcoz Lucas had other priorities, but in works by those that loved *and understood* Lucas's story, we will see that they have connection with other Jedi. The Jedi Order was just as much a community as it was a disciplined way of life. (As a matter of fact, if we compare jedi to real religions as much as we do, we may as well be honest about the community aspect). To give only two examples, the bond between master and student or between peers -- the latter we see little of besides in CW (ironic, sense CW writers also reimagine the Jedi in some aspects for their own messages) --.
This was my childhood Star Wars show. I spent years watching these characters grow. And it still holds up all these years later and my love for it seems like it's finally coming full circle with Ahsoka.
I’m a huge Star Wars fan. Yoda is my preacher. The religion of it all just touches me so much and this video was very cathartic. I had a few aha moments with this so thank you very much. You have a real talent of articulation, and philosophy. You just get it.
I started really watching this series at the end of season 2. That was something so great. Ahsoka vs Vader is 🔥 Then we learned Ashoka was dead. I was sad. She was my all time favorite character of whole cinema/tv shows. Season 3 was good, but then season 4…. World Between Worlds… Ahsoka is alive! Is saved! My mounth was wide open. I got goosebumps…. That was hardhitting. The season 4 final was great! Ezra and Thrawn were also fantastic! I always believed they would continue this story and when Ahsoka was announced, we knew. Ahsoka is SO SO FANTASTIC!!! That is what we needed with Disney Star Wars
I found a quote that fits Kanan, Jyn, Cassian and other that sacrifice themselves for a chance of victory. "That hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith. Ain't that a bitch."
Bruh, the prequels were already trying to tell you the 'no connections' rule was bad, it's the reason for anakin's fall. It allowed palp to turn him and the council's refusal to led him check on his mom played a big part in turning him against the order.
Some people haven't learned to accept the new trilogy and are hopeful that it could be rewritten using the world between worlds... These people can't ignore it and pretend that the new trilogy doesn't exist like I can!
Red vs Blue Season 13 taught me that a hero sacrifices themselves based purely on faith. Their faith in their allies to achieve victory leads them to selflessly give their life, they'd never know if it was really worth it. _"Ain't that a bitch?"_ -Epsilon Honestly, Kanan's death didn't hit first-time around but I was a Rebels fan. I came back around during the lockdown and let loose the flood gates. Kanan and Ezra are my ideas of True Jedi. I'd love for Ezra to be alive, but I'm more okay with him dying. I know Thrawn's a popular character but having Thrawn dying to something he couldn't predict would be great, better than the Imperial Officers' Incompetency or Bendu. Nu kyr’adyc, shi taab’echaaj’la.
@thegoldman25 it's completely tonally inconsistent. You can't show Luminara's corpse; Ezra forcing a walker shoot on its own men; Thrawn forcing a rebel worker to commit suicide: but then have Ezra and Kanan - 2 supposed JEDI - get locked down consistently by 5 stormtroopers who couldn't hit a target if they were aiming point blank. The Empire is fucking useless, until Thrawn takes control in season 3 and actually destroys their base at the end. Ezra is a fucking boring. The only reason he's good is because of Darth Maul. I don't care about his parents. I don't care about Lothal. His trim from season 3 is shit. Although he had a really cool lightsaber hilt - but one that completely defeats the point of a Jedi, who use their lightsabers because of the delicate skill and patience used to control one. Blasters are the exact opposite. Obi-Wan tells this to Anakin in a comic. Kanan is more of a Jedi but neither him nor Ezra are Jedi. Nothing like Luke, who even in his solitude in TLJ was more of a Jedi. Kanan's death was cool but you saw it from a fucking mile away. Kanan and Hera is cool but I find it funny how in season 4 there's a whole part about Kanan trying to get a kiss from Hera, who is trying to be objective. But then in the time skip after ROTJ she somehow has Kanan's child?!?! It's a kid show so you cant imply that they fucked but it went from Kanan securing one kiss to somehow getting her pregnant 💀💀 Kanan and Sabine are cool. The rest of the characters are mid. You miss that in season 4 the two villains are a grey monkey. THAT SHOULD HAVE DIED 3 TIMES - the MOST IMPORTANT when Zeb is about to kill him but Sabine stops him because its a kid show and sprays him with paint and then sends him back to the fucking enemy base 💀💀💀 And also a shit governor that literally nobody finds threatening. Thrawn is the best villain in the show. The inquisitors are also fucking useless. Vader is only there for Ahsoka's character. Vader after barely surviving the rebels in season 2 leaves and doesnt come back despite the rebels proving they're a threat??? For some reason Sidious also turns up in season 4 to Ezra - I was so done with the fucking show that I couldnt be bothered to understand why he was there. The Loth wolf dumbass shit in season 4 is so dumb. Its such a corny plot device. So is the space between worlds or whatever. Ahsoka could have had a great ending if her death was ambiguously against Vader on Malachore. I felt fucking nothing when Ezra died. I was just glad this stupid show was over. I watched this entire show in 4 days. I felt like killing myself. It's S3 >= S2 > S1 >>>> S4
@@commander1suv492completely agree wasted potential, thrawn is completely wasted and obi-maul episode ruined by Ezra jacking off in the desert for 20 minutes, and I agree how is Vader just completely forgetting about them 😂😂 garbage show
@@tomgarton9442 Exactly Vader saw Ahsoka getting pulled away its pathetic how he dissapears after season 2 and doesnt give damn fck about It anymore really annoyed me vader made It barely watchable
But the fact that Ezra chose to not save Kanan doesn’t change that time travel now exists. Kanan and Hera totally fucked veggie get professed their love for each other.
I think that one of the greatest things about Kaanan's death is that the color returns to his eyes before he passes, implying that his vision returns for just a moment, enabling him to see hera one last time
Couldn't help but tear up during that scene. There was just so much to process all at once! And when his eyes cleared up, as the Force gave him the ability to see his love one last time, even for an instant....just.... goosebumps and glassy eyes.
The Honorable Ones is probably the best episode of the series as a whole. It's amazing that little gem snuck its way into a mostly childish (albeit more mature in later seasons) series.
The show is so breathtaking on its heart and philosophy. Kanan is one of the best characters in all of Star Wars, and I love how this show portrays love in such a powerful way. Kanan fully represents a true Jedi in my eyes. And a character like this existing in this show showcases how amazing this show is.
I grew up with The Clone Wars, but Rebels spoke to me in a much deeper way. And Kanan and Ezra's Master/Padawan relationship and bond is one of the strongest in all of Star Wars, I will never get over them.
To this day, it’s the tightest most emotional and focused story under Disney SW, I’m not surprised the events in Rebels are now guiding the future of the franchise as a whole (Thrawn’s return) I always laugh when someone says they tried rebels but only watched a few eps and thought it was a mid show, like bro, it’s THE SHOW.
Same. And as much as i can agree with most people about the tone being silly, at least it could pick a tone (I've seen shows that cant). Though I can mostly accept Ezra for who he is and he did grow, and Kanan choosing to move forward and accept he couldn't foresee or help what happened during the Purge. It was meaningful drama
@@ThreadBareHope1234I’m rewatching rebels now and on s3. I think it does take a lil while to get on its feet but it’s mainly bc it’s first season is more light hearted. I love how the show becomes progressively deeper and darker. Honestly some episodes are my favourite bits of sw content.
I've always loved Clone Wars more, and I think Rebels is really hit or miss, a lot more than TCW, but when there are some episodes of the show, especially towards the later seasons, that manage to capture the same genius as its predecessor, and sometimes even surpass it.
Rebels is definitely a strange one for me. It's set for a younger audience so the good guys never lose. That hurts it slightly. It also has a mostly bad first season. At the same time, it's a linear show with an incredible story and characters that I love. I both like it more and less than Clone Wars.
I mostly agree. I think the plot, writing, and characters are more or less on the same level (however TCW S7 finale easily broke the "tie" for me) However the setting of the Clone Wars, animation / art style, and slightly older rating really made Rebels seem like a a CLEAR downgrade until the story really got going.
I would contest that the rebels always win. In season 2’s and 3’s finales the rebels lose, in some ways quite severely, and that’s half of the finales.
Great retrospective. I fully understand why viewership numbers dropped off during the 1st season but sticking with the series was very much worth it. I love the story Filoni was able tell over the 4 seasons.
I completely agree that the Rebels finale is absolutely brilliant. The show has it’s issues. But Kanan and Ezra might be my two favorite Jedi. In all of Star Wars I would have never expected that they would kill off, and sacrifice the two biggest characters when season 1 ended. The fact we still don’t know where Ezra is, even after 6 years is just insane. And I’m so happy we’ll finally get answers in Ahsoka
@@Door227 I mean. Ahsoka was still around by the events of A New Hope. And there’s a big chance Cal Kestis is too (we’ll have to wait and see what his fate is in Star Wars: Jedi 3) As long as Kanan and Ezra didn’t intervene in the main continuity, they could have both been alive/around. So I really respect that they had the balls to do it. Since they didn’t need to.
49:19 Commander Soto's death was powerful, but what I think enhanced his sacrifice was his officers. They chose to pilot a suicide ship because of their respect for their leader, and their common belief in freedom.
I really like how the main cast of characters from Rebels have been firmly accepted by the fanbase and feel natural in the franchise. For instance Kanan is one of my favorite jedi and Hera is synonymous with the Rebel Alliance to me
I recently rewatched this show in preparation for Ahsoka and honestly by the end of season 4 I got emotional, which doesn’t usually happen for me. These characters were so fleshed out, they really felt like a family and even though there’s a lot of filler, I still enjoyed mostly everything I watched. People need to really give Rebels a chance.
The production story of Rebels is far more inspiring to me than The Clone Wars. Disney gave Dave and the team way more restrictions, it had a smaller budget, it had to be catered to a younger audience, it had to fit the "Disney" brand. Dave and co. worked under those restrictions and produced art that stands the test of time. Bravo.
Rebels is fantastic, a great show all around even season 1 being more “childish”. I think the legacy characters like Ashoka, Rex, Maul, Hondo, Obi-Wan and Yoda all serve a great purpose in helping the Ghost Crew. Rex also shows Kanan and Ezra how to be leaders and face fear/adversity. One of my favorite Rebels quote is from Rex when he’s talking to Ezra about Anakin and the Clone Wars, “a great Jedi once told me. The best leaders lead by example. You do that well.” The legacy characters all impart wisdom upon the Ghost Crew that helps them all grow throughout the show. Can’t say enough good things about Rebels.
Sheesh, didn’t think of that! But good point. And let’s remember, Ahsoka maybe didn’t lose (still debatable as we don’t know if she did or didn’t die before Ezra saved her) but Darth Vader taught not just Ezra, but also Kanan that some battles can’t be won
This is such an amazing analysis. I followed this show obsessively as it was airing, even if I was complaining about, like, half of it. (Ezra abandoning the dark side after 3 episodes in season 3 bothered me. Also, I felt Zeb completes his character arc in Legends of the Lasat and just spun his wheels for the rest of the show). But I'd actually never considered the idea that Yoda sent them to Malachor TO show Ezra the dangers of seeking conflict; to DETER him from trying to defeat the Sith. As a Middle Schooler, I just thought they dropped the ball on that plot point. But that makes sense. This was fantastic to watch and surprisingly nostalgic. I guess it's been a long time since I've seen Rebels.
Rebels and TCW are my favorite parts in all of Star Wars I Grew up with Rebels in Middle School, It is the show that introduced me to Star Wars I remember when I was just starting middle school and I had no prior knowledge of Star wars and I just decided to watch Rebels for the first time and somehow it became my new favorite show despite knowing nothing about Star Wars after I finished rebels season one that's when I watch the rest of Star Wars, Rebels is How I got into Star Wars Itself that's why I might be my favorite SW show Besides TCW
After watching the Ahsoka series, it makes me want to watch Star Wars Rebels. I mean, I’ve only seen clips of that show, and I do like the characters from Rebels in other Star Wars media like Disney Infinity and the Bad Batch, but if Rebels is deep as Clone Wars and Ahsoka, I should totally watch it. Heck, maybe I should also watch Resistance if I was wrong about that and Rebels. Also: Feloni, buddy, I get that you wanted to show that Ezra and Sabine can have moments that aren’t romantic, but um… showing a scene where Sabine gives Ezra a holographic image of his dead parents on his birthday, a scene where Ezra conversely comforts Sabine about her family issues, a scene where Ezra and Sabine look eye to eye before he sacrifices himself, two scenes where Ezra sends a holographic message to Sabine where he talks passionately to her, and a scene where Sabine touches Ezra’s face in a mural… doesn’t scream platonic. I’m sorry, but if you’re gonna show romantic scenes, you have to at-least admit it.
I never understood the hate for this show. I grew up on the movies, watched the clones wars, and then watched rebels when I was in high school. Love it all
I think a lot of it comes from the clone wars being cancelled. And since we've gotten the finale of clone wars since then many new fans have opened up about Rebels
I think the tonal shift from the end of the clone wars to the much younger/goofier S1 of rebels was too much for many and they didn’t stick it out. True for a half a dozen of my friends anyway. I was the only one who went back and watched the whole series and then badgered them to give it another try.
People dont like it because its bad. The empire is the most ridicolous ever (until Kenobi came around), even Thrawn is most of the time an incompetent buffon, there are zero stakes until the last episodes, the main characters are poorly written, 90% is filler and even the sequels have better worldbuilding. Together with the goofy lightsabers and humor, the censoring of deaths and the childish tone, its just not something many people enjoy.
I still lament Disney's mangling of the story of Thrawn (whose novels should have became the sequel series), but I think they got his character right, which more than anything I live because said character is so good.
I don't think Hera was torn because she never told Kanan that she loved him. I think she likely did and he knew that. What she was trying to tell him was that she was pregnant. Thanks for the video. I'm rewatching Rebels now and man, I forgot how good it is. Probably my favorite Star Wars we've ever gotten on a screen.
Yes but also just that fact that she lost the love of her life, they were made for each other, yet circumstance demanded they must part, and it just hurts so bad even to this day! 💔 This is my fav SW project after the OT and PT, Rebels is INCREDIBLE.
I think Rebels is a great "successor" to Cline Wars. This show has a few of my favourite characters and storylines, out of all of Star Wars. I've waited a long time for this Video. Thanks Gold Man, keep up the great work.
As soon as Hera said, "If all you do is fight for your own life, then your life is worth nothing," I was hooked. I think this show has the power and courage to inspire others to strive to be more selfless and courageous. I love this show so deeply, it's hard to find the words, but you did an amazing job explaining the major story beats and how impactful each of them were to the story. P.S. I just subscribed cause why not? :)
Rebels is such an amazing show, the villains, the main characters, the plot, the locations are top tier, on par with the Clone Wars, 9.8/10 for me (my 2nd favorite animated show, below Clone Wars)
You must have watched some other show because the Rebels I saw was ass. The villlains were incompetent idiots (yes, even Thrawn), the main characters with exception of Kanan are poorly written, the plot is 90% of the time to get supplies, the worldbuilding sucks and the locations are really repetetive. 3/10 max
After watching both shows and with rebels before clone wars Rebels is one of my favorites Ezra and kanan are my favorite master and apprentice pair in the whole franchise Also another thing I really loved about the finally is how ezra basically stands there exactly like kanan did in his sacrifice and it mirrored but with different outcomes and it was done beautifully so I also want to mention how strong ezra connection is to the live force able to bond well with a lot of living beings be it an adorable loth cat, the perguil at the finally or straight up controlling the storm trooper to kill his friends and then himself He might not be at the level of luke or yoda in his connection but I think he would become a force ghost when he dies
4:55 people do harp on Rebels for being more childish at the start. While true, the 1st season did have its share of dark moments. In Episode 5, the Empire uses a partially decayed corpse as bait to lure in Jedi, that is shockingly messed up
I‘m gonna say it, this show still sucks 6 years later. It had good ideas, but y‘all are ignoring the problems of the show because most of you are blinded by nostalgia. The worldbuilding is really bad and often times lazy, making the galaxy feel small. There are no stakes because the villains are incompetent idiots, even Vader and especially Thrawn. The plot is 80% of the time filler focussing on getting supplies, making it very boring to keep track. You can skip like 4 episodes and wont miss anything important. The biggest problem are the characters though. Every Chameo was more interesting than the main characters, which is because the half of them are underdeveloped and underused, especially Zeb. Ezra starts annoying and stays for half of the show, Chopper doesnt make sense as he literally tries to kill Ezra multiple times and Sabine is a bigger Mary Sue than Rey, resulting in everyone else becoming useless. The only well written characters are Kanan and Kallus. So all in all, Rebels was a show with amazing potential, but horrible execution.
Rebels really grew on me during my 2nd viewing of the show. The characters and story are well-written and fun. I love the relationship Kanan and Ezra had. It hit me when Kanan said he didn't have any Jedi training left to teach Ezra but Ezra still wanted to be with Kanan to learn how to be a better person. The Ahsoka vs Vader fight was when I really got into the show
The crew become an adopted family to Ezra throughout the show. Kanan and Hera played the parents, Zeb the big brother, Sabine the little sister, and Chopper the household pet in a way if droids are like pets.
I remember watching this series every time a new episode premiered on Disney XD. I kept up with it until the early parts of season 4 (I just never got around to finishing it). It was a pretty good show, I still prefer clone wars but this was a decent successor to it. I’m happy it’s finally getting a proper continuation.
I still like Clone Wars so much more, but I rewatched Rebels before Ahsoka and forgot how charming and fun it is! Ahsoka and Thrawn are my favorite Star Wars characters.
Once little tiny correction: I'm pretty sure that, in the aftermath of Kanan's death, when Hera says "I wish I told him sooner", I don't think she was referring to telling him she loved him. At least how I interpreted it, she wished she told Kanan she was *pregnant* sooner. Not only is it incredibly obvious that they both have feelings for eachother (especially during Season 4, but even far earlier than that), but I also swear I remember them saying "I love you" to eachother prior to Jedi Night. Because of that, I think its more likely Hera wanted to tell Kanan she was pregnant, which we as the viewer don't find out until the final scenes of the show.
LOVED THIS VIDEO!! I grew up with Rebels, I was Ezra's age when it first Air and was his age when the show Finished. I Never understood the hate and how many people hated it using Nitpicks instead of apreciatting it as its own thing, and during the Pandemic when so many people started to give it a proper chance and say things like "I actually liked it" "I was too rough with Rebels", "I can see it actually good", etc. I didn't know if to be Happy or Mad hahaha It got so much unffair hate, with people pointing a lot of things that weren't that bad and things that were always there, like the Heart and Passion. And then almost everyone started to Love it and to apreciate Ezra's character too. Now I'm just happy, I love Rebels, I love Ezra and can't wait to see how much my boy has grown in Ahsoka 🫶✨
I’m currently in the process of watching every bit of Star Wars media on Disney plus (In timeline order) and I’m currently on season 2 of Rebels so this video couldn’t of come out at a better time!
I did enjoy Rebels but I think I made a mistake watching it after Andor, seeing the Empire (especially in S1) other than Thrawn seem to comedically incompetent was distracting. In Andor even lowly imperial army garrisons seem deadly, in Rebels imperial Stormtroopers are taken out by slingshots. We all know why the tone is so different and who the audiences were but it was extremely jarring seeing the bumbling empire of Rebels.
As frustrated as i was with the clone wars getting canceled, i still gave rebels a chance. And grew to love it. Funny enough a good friend of mine on the other hand, refused to watch rebels. Even after numerous chances of trying to convince him to give it a shot, he wouldn't budge. I then asked him, if clone wars wasn't canceled and finished its original run, would he have been open to give rebels a chance? He said yes. Years later clone wars came back, got its proper ending, and my friend started binging rebels immediately after.
@@wolfspiritrandom he liked it alot. He still gave some criticisms on being too kiddy at time, and lack of violence which i agree with. But after he finished the show, we had long discussions on the lore, references, connections, ect.... while playing gta online.
I appreciate how you covered the final duel between Maul and Kenobi. I still think that the video tribute done by Darth Porg titled “Hatred - Maul” is still the best summary of Maul’s life out of any summary and tribute videos.
I'm not for the intense sequels bashing , but most themes that those movies wanted to explore where covered better in Star Wars Rebel, for example Rey and Ezra are similar in concept but Ezra's found family make more sense than Rey's one, it help that they started the story with knowing how they wanted to continue it
This really does bring light to why I think Rebels is the best star wars series. Everything that you said, I agreed with. The impact this series made on my life is something I will never forget. It's what what really kickstarted me into becoming a diehard star wars fan. Ezra is and always will be, my favourite star wars character ever just from his story and the impact he (and somewhat Kanan) made on the rest of the franchise.
I was one of those guys who thought Rebels looked like a crappy replacement for Clone Wars. It wasn't until after Ahsoka was announced that I went through the show. I'm glad I did, because despite the flaws the show's actually pretty good.
Kannan's Death is one of the most emotional in all of star wars. Made even more emotional by The force returning his vision so he could look at hera with his own eyes. before his death. I can't think of a sadder death off the top of my head.
Animation is not the same as what I grew up on. I was Looney Toons and Tex Avery cartoons. I watched but wasn't a fan of the Hanna Barbera. G-Force was the only entry of Japanese anime. When cartoons started getting video gamey looking, I was well past showing interest. But I dove into Mandalorian and Boba Fett and well, reaction videos on TH-cam. I learned many folks grew up on Clone Wars and express how great it was. I figured, I'd make it a mission to give it a whirl before the Obi-Wan Kenobi series aired. So I started the Clone Wars. The thumbnail image of Rebels made me turn away from it at first. It looked very kiddish. Same with Resistance. However, by the time I got to Season 2 of Clone Wars, I decided to throw in a Rebels episode here and there. To my surprise, I got hooked on Rebels and dove completely into the show as I suspended my Clone Wars viewing. By the time Obi-wan Kenobi aired, I was done with Rebels and probably midway through Clone Wars Season 5. Of course, picking up the show with Maul, the Emperor, then Ahoska's trial, then Season 6, the final arcs in Clone Wars went by pretty quick. And they filled in the week long wait for the next Kenobi episodes. Anyway, yes. Rebels is a top notch creation.
When this show is at its best; I really like the show and I used to watch it back when new episodes were airing. However when it is at its most flawed. It can very repetitive, more child friendly, and not as gritty as other parts of the franchise. So basically I would say its a good/good enough show for me personally. This is almost as long ArTorr review/retrospective of Star Wars Rebels.
Star Wars fandom is just a constant cycle of 'i don't like the New Thing, and i don't understand why all the kids these days are into it' followed by 5 years of the 'kids these days' liking it, and eventually those kids these days grow up, only to have the new star wars thing annoy them and the cycle continues.
@@Jobother what makes TROS so univerally bad is that after the fanbase was divided in half after TLJ, the movie came out and somehow alienated both halves
@@thegoldman25 Hey Gold Man. To answer your question from the chatooine show how does Ahsoka “show she’s not a Jedi?” In Episode 1 I believe Ahsoka told nuyang that she retrieved the star map from the night sister by using tactics a Jedi “normally wouldn’t do” or whatever she said. I don’t know the quote exactly but it was close to or very similar to that.
I like the efffort but I think you're missing a mayor part about how it was received back than. we didn't have disney+ yet so it was just hoping that is was on disneyXD whenever your mom allows you to watch. this means that you rarely get to view the complete show in the correct order meaning that each episode has to stand out on it's own
I would still have to say that the Clone Wars is my favorite Star Wars show out of them all, but Rebels still holds a special place in my heart because of how well done it was, as well as everything it's added to the canon and expanded upon.
One thing you forgot to mention is that Sabine vs Gar Saxon ends with a mirror image of how Anakin vs Dooku ended with Sabine catching the Darksaber and almost killing Gar, Gar even tells Sabine to kill him just like how Palpatine told Anakin to Kill Dooku. The biggest difference is that while Anakin gave in and killed Dooku, Sabine sparred Gar only for her mother to kill him, kinda like that if Anakin didn’t kill Dooku then Palpatine was going to kill him himself
Your channel is one of if not my favorite Star Wars channels. Great video my man! I came to Rebels late, like 2020 during covid lockdowns. I ended up binge watching the entire series. I completely fell in love with the series and characters. Thanks for doing another video on one of my favorite shows.
I feel like you're a bit too apologetic with the show. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Rebels is the worst thing out there, but it's definitely a serious downgrade from clone wars and I hate the fact that it's such an important piece of media. Now, if it wasn't advertised as a sort of sequel to Clone Wars, it could have been a nice piece of media in the catalogue. However, the truth is, they were hoping to appease both a young audience and Clone Wars veterans, which was basically impossible. Clone wars audience grew up and the show did with them, it started telling darker stories and touching on deeper subjects. I feel that if rebels was made with the same philosophy, that is: "Mature with your audience", the show would have been Andor before Andor, touching on much darker subjects such as genocide, abuse and racism. The empire is said to be terrible, but up until Andor we haven't seen actual dark stuff show on screen, such as proper torture. The downgrade in quality also can't be excused by the show being a kid's show, as there are way better ones out there, such as Avatar, Adventure Time, heck, even some of the Looney Tunes. Again, it's not the worst, but it's definitely a tough pill to swallow. Again, it ain't the worst
Was Rebels perfect? No Was it as good as Clone Wars? No But imo it did its job in bringing a lot of people into the franchise. I have a friend who watched rebels before Clone Wars and she loves it. I watched most of Rebels before Clone Wars and enjoyed it and while I finished Clone Wars later on and saw it as superior I just think for the events that happened outside the creators control such as the lesser budget it was good.
One perspective I saw elsewhere…that I personally agree with but not everyone might…The Clone Wars had higher highs, but also some really low lows. Rebels may not hit as high as some arcs from The Clone Wars, but I think its low moments aren’t quite as bad as TCW, giving a more consistent feel across the whole show.
@@davidbeer5015 Yea Rebels at least knew what it was and kept to that feel I think for the most part. Clone Wars could have really good, dark, and mature stories that have a place among the greats of the franchise while then having an arc like the martez sister arc which really felt redundant and repetitive while watching it.
@@davidbeer5015idk man, Twilight of the Apprentice is my favorite Star Wars episode ever, besides that, I don't think it reaches the highs of Clone Wars.
Rebels is pretty boring . Storm troopers were losing there uniforms left and right and the space whales were very strange. And also the spinning lightsabers that the user could fly ?? Sabine was nice actually, space alladin was dumb, mandalorian queen/possible jedi/ former imperial inventor/ artist was annoying. The robot and owl looking guy were a waste of screen time
I didn’t get to grow up with clone wars cause I wasn’t into Star Wars at the time. When I did become a fan, I just watched full episodes on TH-cam as much as I could. Then Rebels came along and fully made me a Star Wars fan. Thank you for this video!
Don't ever sleep on the animated star wars shows. I really like the ghost crew because they remind me of my family. especially Kanan and Hera who remind me a lot of my parents and Kanan and Ezra remind me a lot of me and my dad!
Interesting thing is when people ask how they had a kid when they hadn't said I love you. Sad thing though, this is very much possible in reality. It is possible to procreate without saying I love you first. People who have asked, well, I'm happy for you for not having to endure such a problem in your life.
I do have to say, kanan, quoting to do or do not line I think shows a drastic contrast between the Jedi of that era, and how he is different from them, he admits that he doesn’t know what it means, and I think that is a big thing because he’s not blinded by dogma or pride like the Jedi he grew up with where, and by the end of it, he learns the true meaning of do or do not
Always loved rebels :) Glad to see it getting so much love lately...even by people who at the time hated it because of the huge difference to the clone wars.
I remember watching this for the first time as it came out. I really enjoyed it and never held the Clone Wars cancelation against it. I cried like a child when Kanin died. One of my favorite scenes with Hera was when she was chastising her father and her voice broke into her native accent. It really showed how emotional she was. I loved the character development everyone received. Even Agent Callis got development. I recently rewatched the whole series. Still enjoyed it
YAAAAY SPACE WHALES, in ahsoka I hope they don’t come in to save the day again cuz it’s STUPID wouldn’t put it past Disney tho and u morons would still lap it up 😂😂😂😂
I love Clone Wars; its defenitly my favourite piece of Star Wars media. But I adored and still adore Rebels and it will always have a special place in my heart.
I still strongly disdain how rebels was handled man. Art was some how more hit or miss than the clone wars, which yeah.... but the dramatic nerf they did with some of the story and characters kinda just, pained me. Especially with the Empire. I get it, it's still a kids show, but show was Clone Wars, make stormtroopers actually threatening somewhat. But what really annoyed me, even when I was watching the show, was Ezra. God I hate Ezra just Ahsoka, if she never aged based season 1.
I didn't grow up with the clone wars or rebels, was finally able to watch both when Disney+ became a thing (yeah I was that late) but I absolutely loved both shows. While I think the Clone Wars is the better show I personally prefer Rebels for it's story and characters.
amazing video, loved almost every moment of it. unfortunately, you forgot a key piece of information being that Zeb and Kallus are boyfriends and love eachother bc of what happened on the ice moon of Geonosis
Rebles will always be super special to me i was 9 when jt came out and grew up watching it with my family, it comferted me alot during covid and ive had a huge obsession with it sinse last summer its such a good shoe too and probably one of mt favourite star wars things there is
At the time of releasing this video, Rebels concluded almost exactly 5.5 years ago, because that is not an engaging video title, I rounded up to 6 years later
This is probably gonna be one of those videos people are watching for years to come anyway, the title will be obsolete almost as soon as it's accurate.
Plus, I mean, you didn't specify exactly what point in the series was 6 years ago... so... *ahem* "what I told you was true, from a certain point of view"
Excellent video there were so many themes found in this show that you expressed well
@@trainknut Technically it's been about 9 years since it started so anywhere from 9-6 is true for now
You NEED to stop accepting the absolute worst, most obvious scams in human history as sponsors, pretending to like them for WAY too long and putting them in the middle of the video NOW. I'm tired of disliking and reporting good videos
Here 6 months later perfectly timed
I love Rebels as much as the next fan but you opened my eyes when you said that The Clone Wars shows us what NOT to do as a Jedi whereas Rebels shows us the right way 🙏
The two shows work perfectly hand in hand, thanks for watching!
@fofonablus7104 How?
Sorry that this will come off as aggressive, but while Gold tries to explain it, it's clearly to keep that crowd happy, as he contradicts himself at 23:28 admitting the Jedi are selfless. It can't be both. Things that happen between Ezra and Kanan such as a close master apprentice relationship and working through emotions are common place. Just because Obi wan struggled to doesn't mean it never happened.
In CW, a hand full of people perceive the Jedi negatively at the start of an episode, the Jedi pretend to not have an answer, and they just never explain or conclude that issue. It's no deeper than Obi wan's random complaints about politicians. And this is a recurring problem in CW's "themes".
Plus, it ignores other *canon* lore like the existence of the Med Corps, the Agri Corps, the Exploration Corps, and Edu Corps which the Jedi established to heal impoverished systems. As well as disregarding Lucas's intent -- and no, Lucas helping with CW doesn't justify a retcon. He changes his mind all the time, and usually for the worst-- disregarding Lucas's intent for the Jedi's purpose and existence. And interpretating the CW portrayal as corruption is a stretch (unless our definitions are different).
Making the jedi slothy old men ends up adding nothing and teaching nothing, besides paying lip service to real world western criticism of specifically western religions, which the jedi are NOTHING like* .
Honestly yeah. I remember thinking that Ezra and Kanan embodied what the Jedi should’ve been. They both succeeded not because of how powerful they were with the force or as duelists. No, they lost on those fronts, and rightfully so. It was how deeply connected they were to the force and their emotions, Kanan’s love for Hera and the Ghost Crew and Ezra’s love for them along with Lothal is what saved the planet and defeated Thrawn. They respected the Force and it was their ally to the end.
@@othervids3726Ezra's and Kanan's closeness is good, and was common place among the Jedi. We only get glimpses and inferences in the movies bcoz Lucas had other priorities, but in works by those that loved *and understood* Lucas's story, we will see that they have connection with other Jedi. The Jedi Order was just as much a community as it was a disciplined way of life. (As a matter of fact, if we compare jedi to real religions as much as we do, we may as well be honest about the community aspect). To give only two examples, the bond between master and student or between peers -- the latter we see little of besides in CW (ironic, sense CW writers also reimagine the Jedi in some aspects for their own messages) --.
ok you have good points, BUT WHY THE FUCK DID YOU INSULT GEORGE?! 🙅🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🫥🫥🫥🤬🤬😤
Darth Maul is so important of a character because of Dave Filoni that he’s the only reason I got people to watch rebels
nah, Ahsoka, Vader, Thrawn were bigger draws imo
@@thegoldman25 they definitely are but they just wanted more maul
This was my childhood Star Wars show. I spent years watching these characters grow. And it still holds up all these years later and my love for it seems like it's finally coming full circle with Ahsoka.
I’m a huge Star Wars fan. Yoda is my preacher. The religion of it all just touches me so much and this video was very cathartic. I had a few aha moments with this so thank you very much. You have a real talent of articulation, and philosophy. You just get it.
I appreciate that, thank you!
I started really watching this series at the end of season 2. That was something so great. Ahsoka vs Vader is 🔥
Then we learned Ashoka was dead. I was sad. She was my all time favorite character of whole cinema/tv shows. Season 3 was good, but then season 4…. World Between Worlds… Ahsoka is alive! Is saved! My mounth was wide open. I got goosebumps…. That was hardhitting. The season 4 final was great! Ezra and Thrawn were also fantastic! I always believed they would continue this story and when Ahsoka was announced, we knew. Ahsoka is SO SO FANTASTIC!!! That is what we needed with Disney Star Wars
I enjoyed Rebels. One of the best things imo that Disney have done since aquiring Lucasfilm. Thanks for another great retrospevtive 👍
thank you for watching michael!
I found a quote that fits Kanan, Jyn, Cassian and other that sacrifice themselves for a chance of victory. "That hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith. Ain't that a bitch."
Bruh, the prequels were already trying to tell you the 'no connections' rule was bad, it's the reason for anakin's fall. It allowed palp to turn him and the council's refusal to led him check on his mom played a big part in turning him against the order.
Some people haven't learned to accept the new trilogy and are hopeful that it could be rewritten using the world between worlds... These people can't ignore it and pretend that the new trilogy doesn't exist like I can!
THE GOLD MAN
thats me!
Red vs Blue Season 13 taught me that a hero sacrifices themselves based purely on faith. Their faith in their allies to achieve victory leads them to selflessly give their life, they'd never know if it was really worth it. _"Ain't that a bitch?"_ -Epsilon
Honestly, Kanan's death didn't hit first-time around but I was a Rebels fan. I came back around during the lockdown and let loose the flood gates. Kanan and Ezra are my ideas of True Jedi. I'd love for Ezra to be alive, but I'm more okay with him dying. I know Thrawn's a popular character but having Thrawn dying to something he couldn't predict would be great, better than the Imperial Officers' Incompetency or Bendu.
Nu kyr’adyc, shi taab’echaaj’la.
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Great to hear!
I hate Rebels. It's nothing compared to TCW
no way!
@thegoldman25 it's completely tonally inconsistent. You can't show Luminara's corpse; Ezra forcing a walker shoot on its own men; Thrawn forcing a rebel worker to commit suicide: but then have Ezra and Kanan - 2 supposed JEDI - get locked down consistently by 5 stormtroopers who couldn't hit a target if they were aiming point blank. The Empire is fucking useless, until Thrawn takes control in season 3 and actually destroys their base at the end.
Ezra is a fucking boring. The only reason he's good is because of Darth Maul. I don't care about his parents. I don't care about Lothal. His trim from season 3 is shit. Although he had a really cool lightsaber hilt - but one that completely defeats the point of a Jedi, who use their lightsabers because of the delicate skill and patience used to control one. Blasters are the exact opposite. Obi-Wan tells this to Anakin in a comic.
Kanan is more of a Jedi but neither him nor Ezra are Jedi. Nothing like Luke, who even in his solitude in TLJ was more of a Jedi. Kanan's death was cool but you saw it from a fucking mile away. Kanan and Hera is cool but I find it funny how in season 4 there's a whole part about Kanan trying to get a kiss from Hera, who is trying to be objective. But then in the time skip after ROTJ she somehow has Kanan's child?!?! It's a kid show so you cant imply that they fucked but it went from Kanan securing one kiss to somehow getting her pregnant 💀💀
Kanan and Sabine are cool. The rest of the characters are mid.
You miss that in season 4 the two villains are a grey monkey. THAT SHOULD HAVE DIED 3 TIMES - the MOST IMPORTANT when Zeb is about to kill him but Sabine stops him because its a kid show and sprays him with paint and then sends him back to the fucking enemy base 💀💀💀
And also a shit governor that literally nobody finds threatening.
Thrawn is the best villain in the show. The inquisitors are also fucking useless. Vader is only there for Ahsoka's character. Vader after barely surviving the rebels in season 2 leaves and doesnt come back despite the rebels proving they're a threat???
For some reason Sidious also turns up in season 4 to Ezra - I was so done with the fucking show that I couldnt be bothered to understand why he was there.
The Loth wolf dumbass shit in season 4 is so dumb. Its such a corny plot device. So is the space between worlds or whatever. Ahsoka could have had a great ending if her death was ambiguously against Vader on Malachore.
I felt fucking nothing when Ezra died. I was just glad this stupid show was over.
I watched this entire show in 4 days. I felt like killing myself.
It's S3 >= S2 > S1 >>>> S4
@@commander1suv492completely agree wasted potential, thrawn is completely wasted and obi-maul episode ruined by Ezra jacking off in the desert for 20 minutes, and I agree how is Vader just completely forgetting about them 😂😂 garbage show
@@commander1suv492it's gonna get continued in the ahsoka show so good luck lmao
@@tomgarton9442 Exactly Vader saw Ahsoka getting pulled away its pathetic how he dissapears after season 2 and doesnt give damn fck about It anymore really annoyed me vader made It barely watchable
Season 1: Slow start, but what the heck, let’s keep watching ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Season 2: Alright, where’s the popcorn?
Season 3: FUCK YEAH!
Season 4: 😭
But the fact that Ezra chose to not save Kanan doesn’t change that time travel now exists.
Kanan and Hera totally fucked veggie get professed their love for each other.
I think that one of the greatest things about Kaanan's death is that the color returns to his eyes before he passes, implying that his vision returns for just a moment, enabling him to see hera one last time
Couldn't help but tear up during that scene. There was just so much to process all at once!
And when his eyes cleared up, as the Force gave him the ability to see his love one last time, even for an instant....just.... goosebumps and glassy eyes.
:')
The Honorable Ones is probably the best episode of the series as a whole. It's amazing that little gem snuck its way into a mostly childish (albeit more mature in later seasons) series.
It's certainly up there!
I’m partial to Twighlight of The Apprentice and Trials of the Darksaber
The show is so breathtaking on its heart and philosophy. Kanan is one of the best characters in all of Star Wars, and I love how this show portrays love in such a powerful way. Kanan fully represents a true Jedi in my eyes. And a character like this existing in this show showcases how amazing this show is.
Couldn’t agree more!
I grew up with The Clone Wars, but Rebels spoke to me in a much deeper way. And Kanan and Ezra's Master/Padawan relationship and bond is one of the strongest in all of Star Wars, I will never get over them.
Couldn’t agree more!
To this day, it’s the tightest most emotional and focused story under Disney SW, I’m not surprised the events in Rebels are now guiding the future of the franchise as a whole (Thrawn’s return) I always laugh when someone says they tried rebels but only watched a few eps and thought it was a mid show, like bro, it’s THE SHOW.
Same. And as much as i can agree with most people about the tone being silly, at least it could pick a tone (I've seen shows that cant). Though I can mostly accept Ezra for who he is and he did grow, and Kanan choosing to move forward and accept he couldn't foresee or help what happened during the Purge. It was meaningful drama
@@ThreadBareHope1234I’m rewatching rebels now and on s3. I think it does take a lil while to get on its feet but it’s mainly bc it’s first season is more light hearted. I love how the show becomes progressively deeper and darker. Honestly some episodes are my favourite bits of sw content.
I've always loved Clone Wars more, and I think Rebels is really hit or miss, a lot more than TCW, but when there are some episodes of the show, especially towards the later seasons, that manage to capture the same genius as its predecessor, and sometimes even surpass it.
Rebels is definitely a strange one for me.
It's set for a younger audience so the good guys never lose. That hurts it slightly. It also has a mostly bad first season. At the same time, it's a linear show with an incredible story and characters that I love. I both like it more and less than Clone Wars.
fair points!
I mostly agree. I think the plot, writing, and characters are more or less on the same level (however TCW S7 finale easily broke the "tie" for me)
However the setting of the Clone Wars, animation / art style, and slightly older rating really made Rebels seem like a a CLEAR downgrade until the story really got going.
I would contest that the rebels always win. In season 2’s and 3’s finales the rebels lose, in some ways quite severely, and that’s half of the finales.
Great retrospective. I fully understand why viewership numbers dropped off during the 1st season but sticking with the series was very much worth it. I love the story Filoni was able tell over the 4 seasons.
I totally agree!
I completely agree that the Rebels finale is absolutely brilliant. The show has it’s issues. But Kanan and Ezra might be my two favorite Jedi. In all of Star Wars
I would have never expected that they would kill off, and sacrifice the two biggest characters when season 1 ended.
The fact we still don’t know where Ezra is, even after 6 years is just insane. And I’m so happy we’ll finally get answers in Ahsoka
Im gonna get emotional the next time I see Ezra
They pull a sike on us and we don’t actually get that- I’m thinking of the worst possible outcome but it’ll happen.
I knew they’d have to get rid of kanan and Ezra since you had to get rid of the two Jedi before a new hope but it’s still sad
@@Door227 I mean. Ahsoka was still around by the events of A New Hope. And there’s a big chance Cal Kestis is too (we’ll have to wait and see what his fate is in Star Wars: Jedi 3)
As long as Kanan and Ezra didn’t intervene in the main continuity, they could have both been alive/around. So I really respect that they had the balls to do it. Since they didn’t need to.
49:19 Commander Soto's death was powerful, but what I think enhanced his sacrifice was his officers. They chose to pilot a suicide ship because of their respect for their leader, and their common belief in freedom.
That's a fantastic point, I love that moment too
It’s crazy to think that these characters we saw animated are now being portrayed in live-action!
it's surreal
Yeah and it’s phantom menace level acting all the characters feel like an emotionless monotone
@@Deity_devilhorrible take
@@kadegetslaid634 cool but I’m right bro the acting in the ahsoka series feels like an emotionless monotone
@Deity_devil you're really not right, we're two episodes in
I really like how the main cast of characters from Rebels have been firmly accepted by the fanbase and feel natural in the franchise. For instance Kanan is one of my favorite jedi and Hera is synonymous with the Rebel Alliance to me
Rebels really has aged well, major W
rebels is dog ass
@@thegoldman25 major retard
The McQuarrie influence makes the show feel like SW adjacent in the best way. Different to the OT but sharing a common ancestor
very true
@@thegoldman25 while I think the inspiration is cool I don't really like the thin lightsabers. I love the tribute though!!
I recently rewatched this show in preparation for Ahsoka and honestly by the end of season 4 I got emotional, which doesn’t usually happen for me. These characters were so fleshed out, they really felt like a family and even though there’s a lot of filler, I still enjoyed mostly everything I watched. People need to really give Rebels a chance.
I'm so glad people are finally seeing it for what it truly is.
I've watched season 4 like 6 times and it still makes me cry
@@thegoldman25 yea i have watched season 1, 1 time.
season 3-4 like 6 times. its rly good
The production story of Rebels is far more inspiring to me than The Clone Wars. Disney gave Dave and the team way more restrictions, it had a smaller budget, it had to be catered to a younger audience, it had to fit the "Disney" brand. Dave and co. worked under those restrictions and produced art that stands the test of time. Bravo.
Great point!
Except season 1, I still just can't grow to like it
fair point. Until Grand Inquisitor rolled up Season 1 was quite bad..
Rebels is fantastic, a great show all around even season 1 being more “childish”. I think the legacy characters like Ashoka, Rex, Maul, Hondo, Obi-Wan and Yoda all serve a great purpose in helping the Ghost Crew. Rex also shows Kanan and Ezra how to be leaders and face fear/adversity. One of my favorite Rebels quote is from Rex when he’s talking to Ezra about Anakin and the Clone Wars, “a great Jedi once told me. The best leaders lead by example. You do that well.” The legacy characters all impart wisdom upon the Ghost Crew that helps them all grow throughout the show. Can’t say enough good things about Rebels.
Wonderful point! I wish I added that into my video
To an extent even vader taught ezra something that there are some battles he can't win
Sheesh, didn’t think of that! But good point. And let’s remember, Ahsoka maybe didn’t lose (still debatable as we don’t know if she did or didn’t die before Ezra saved her) but Darth Vader taught not just Ezra, but also Kanan that some battles can’t be won
This is such an amazing analysis. I followed this show obsessively as it was airing, even if I was complaining about, like, half of it. (Ezra abandoning the dark side after 3 episodes in season 3 bothered me. Also, I felt Zeb completes his character arc in Legends of the Lasat and just spun his wheels for the rest of the show). But I'd actually never considered the idea that Yoda sent them to Malachor TO show Ezra the dangers of seeking conflict; to DETER him from trying to defeat the Sith. As a Middle Schooler, I just thought they dropped the ball on that plot point. But that makes sense. This was fantastic to watch and surprisingly nostalgic. I guess it's been a long time since I've seen Rebels.
It makes perfect sense! Thanks for watching and I’m glad I was able to change your mind about that
Rebels and TCW are my favorite parts in all of Star Wars I Grew up with Rebels in Middle School, It is the show that introduced me to Star Wars I remember when I was just starting middle school and I had no prior knowledge of Star wars and I just decided to watch Rebels for the first time and somehow it became my new favorite show despite knowing nothing about Star Wars after I finished rebels season one that's when I watch the rest of Star Wars, Rebels is How I got into Star Wars Itself that's why I might be my favorite SW show Besides TCW
Star Wars animation certainly holds a special place in a lot of peoples hearts, thanks for watching!
Rebels was also what got me into star wars so relatable I guess.
After watching the Ahsoka series, it makes me want to watch Star Wars Rebels. I mean, I’ve only seen clips of that show, and I do like the characters from Rebels in other Star Wars media like Disney Infinity and the Bad Batch, but if Rebels is deep as Clone Wars and Ahsoka, I should totally watch it.
Heck, maybe I should also watch Resistance if I was wrong about that and Rebels.
Also: Feloni, buddy, I get that you wanted to show that Ezra and Sabine can have moments that aren’t romantic, but um… showing a scene where Sabine gives Ezra a holographic image of his dead parents on his birthday, a scene where Ezra conversely comforts Sabine about her family issues, a scene where Ezra and Sabine look eye to eye before he sacrifices himself, two scenes where Ezra sends a holographic message to Sabine where he talks passionately to her, and a scene where Sabine touches Ezra’s face in a mural… doesn’t scream platonic. I’m sorry, but if you’re gonna show romantic scenes, you have to at-least admit it.
Rebels is easily my favorite Star Wars show, and Kanan and Ezra have slowly become one of my favorite Jedi duos
Couldn't agree more!
It's just a little above clone wars for me!
Same! I want Ezra to train Jacen.
Yeah, it might be partly nostalgia for me, but I love their story
@@PennesinoTheGreatbraindead
I never understood the hate for this show. I grew up on the movies, watched the clones wars, and then watched rebels when I was in high school. Love it all
I think a lot of it comes from the clone wars being cancelled. And since we've gotten the finale of clone wars since then many new fans have opened up about Rebels
I think the tonal shift from the end of the clone wars to the much younger/goofier S1 of rebels was too much for many and they didn’t stick it out. True for a half a dozen of my friends anyway. I was the only one who went back and watched the whole series and then badgered them to give it another try.
People dont like it because its bad. The empire is the most ridicolous ever (until Kenobi came around), even Thrawn is most of the time an incompetent buffon, there are zero stakes until the last episodes, the main characters are poorly written, 90% is filler and even the sequels have better worldbuilding. Together with the goofy lightsabers and humor, the censoring of deaths and the childish tone, its just not something many people enjoy.
Watched rebels in elementary/middle school and I still didn’t like it that much as the series went on
@@GreenNinj4I disagree
Somehow...Ezra has become my favourite Star Wars character of all time. His arc is emotional and incredibly done, his growth, his stories....perfect
It was great!
He’s the only reason I’m watching Ashoka so if we don’t see him or he dies I ain’t watching it no more
@@stareatme9983ok
I'm quite surprised.
For me it’s Kanan
The lack of mention of Thrawn's meeting with Hera is criminal. That scene is a perfect distillation of who Thrawn is. Absolutely wonderful.
I still lament Disney's mangling of the story of Thrawn (whose novels should have became the sequel series), but I think they got his character right, which more than anything I live because said character is so good.
Ikr? He barely even talked about Thrawn and that was the part of the video I was most excited to get to
I don't think Hera was torn because she never told Kanan that she loved him. I think she likely did and he knew that. What she was trying to tell him was that she was pregnant.
Thanks for the video. I'm rewatching Rebels now and man, I forgot how good it is. Probably my favorite Star Wars we've ever gotten on a screen.
Yes but also just that fact that she lost the love of her life, they were made for each other, yet circumstance demanded they must part, and it just hurts so bad even to this day! 💔
This is my fav SW project after the OT and PT, Rebels is INCREDIBLE.
I think Rebels is a great "successor" to Cline Wars. This show has a few of my favourite characters and storylines, out of all of Star Wars. I've waited a long time for this Video. Thanks Gold Man, keep up the great work.
Enjoy! Thanks for the kind words
As soon as Hera said, "If all you do is fight for your own life, then your life is worth nothing," I was hooked. I think this show has the power and courage to inspire others to strive to be more selfless and courageous. I love this show so deeply, it's hard to find the words, but you did an amazing job explaining the major story beats and how impactful each of them were to the story. P.S. I just subscribed cause why not? :)
Thank you!!!!
Vanessa Marshall who voiced her said that was one of her favorite lines.
Rebels is such an amazing show, the villains, the main characters, the plot, the locations are top tier, on par with the Clone Wars, 9.8/10 for me (my 2nd favorite animated show, below Clone Wars)
It's such an amazing show, thanks for watching!
You must have watched some other show because the Rebels I saw was ass. The villlains were incompetent idiots (yes, even Thrawn), the main characters with exception of Kanan are poorly written, the plot is 90% of the time to get supplies, the worldbuilding sucks and the locations are really repetetive. 3/10 max
@@GreenNinj4thank the lord someone sees sense 😂
After watching both shows and with rebels before clone wars
Rebels is one of my favorites Ezra and kanan are my favorite master and apprentice pair in the whole franchise
Also another thing I really loved about the finally is how ezra basically stands there exactly like kanan did in his sacrifice and it mirrored but with different outcomes and it was done beautifully so
I also want to mention how strong ezra connection is to the live force able to bond well with a lot of living beings be it an adorable loth cat, the perguil at the finally or straight up controlling the storm trooper to kill his friends and then himself
He might not be at the level of luke or yoda in his connection but I think he would become a force ghost when he dies
4:55 people do harp on Rebels for being more childish at the start. While true, the 1st season did have its share of dark moments.
In Episode 5, the Empire uses a partially decayed corpse as bait to lure in Jedi, that is shockingly messed up
great point!
What great timing as I had just finished watching your old videos on Why Kanan is a great Jedi & The importance of Ezra's sacrifice.
Also I only finished watching Star Wars Rebels S3 & S4 recently for the first time. I watched S1 & S2 as it premiered.
Welcome back!
I‘m gonna say it, this show still sucks 6 years later. It had good ideas, but y‘all are ignoring the problems of the show because most of you are blinded by nostalgia.
The worldbuilding is really bad and often times lazy, making the galaxy feel small. There are no stakes because the villains are incompetent idiots, even Vader and especially Thrawn. The plot is 80% of the time filler focussing on getting supplies, making it very boring to keep track. You can skip like 4 episodes and wont miss anything important.
The biggest problem are the characters though. Every Chameo was more interesting than the main characters, which is because the half of them are underdeveloped and underused, especially Zeb. Ezra starts annoying and stays for half of the show, Chopper doesnt make sense as he literally tries to kill Ezra multiple times and Sabine is a bigger Mary Sue than Rey, resulting in everyone else becoming useless. The only well written characters are Kanan and Kallus.
So all in all, Rebels was a show with amazing potential, but horrible execution.
Loved the 1st season simply because Greg Weisman wrote it. He's such a good writer
didn't know that! the 1st season is still my least favorite but I enjoy it
Rebels really grew on me during my 2nd viewing of the show. The characters and story are well-written and fun. I love the relationship Kanan and Ezra had. It hit me when Kanan said he didn't have any Jedi training left to teach Ezra but Ezra still wanted to be with Kanan to learn how to be a better person. The Ahsoka vs Vader fight was when I really got into the show
I think a show like rebels is much better to watch when you binge it instead of week to week
The crew become an adopted family to Ezra throughout the show. Kanan and Hera played the parents, Zeb the big brother, Sabine the little sister, and Chopper the household pet in a way if droids are like pets.
Sabine is older than Ezra btw
@@thegoldman25 Barely
I remember watching this series every time a new episode premiered on Disney XD. I kept up with it until the early parts of season 4 (I just never got around to finishing it). It was a pretty good show, I still prefer clone wars but this was a decent successor to it. I’m happy it’s finally getting a proper continuation.
ah good ole disney XD
I still like Clone Wars so much more, but I rewatched Rebels before Ahsoka and forgot how charming and fun it is! Ahsoka and Thrawn are my favorite Star Wars characters.
Once little tiny correction: I'm pretty sure that, in the aftermath of Kanan's death, when Hera says "I wish I told him sooner", I don't think she was referring to telling him she loved him. At least how I interpreted it, she wished she told Kanan she was *pregnant* sooner. Not only is it incredibly obvious that they both have feelings for eachother (especially during Season 4, but even far earlier than that), but I also swear I remember them saying "I love you" to eachother prior to Jedi Night. Because of that, I think its more likely Hera wanted to tell Kanan she was pregnant, which we as the viewer don't find out until the final scenes of the show.
LOVED THIS VIDEO!!
I grew up with Rebels, I was Ezra's age when it first Air and was his age when the show Finished. I Never understood the hate and how many people hated it using Nitpicks instead of apreciatting it as its own thing, and during the Pandemic when so many people started to give it a proper chance and say things like "I actually liked it" "I was too rough with Rebels", "I can see it actually good", etc. I didn't know if to be Happy or Mad hahaha
It got so much unffair hate, with people pointing a lot of things that weren't that bad and things that were always there, like the Heart and Passion. And then almost everyone started to Love it and to apreciate Ezra's character too. Now I'm just happy, I love Rebels, I love Ezra and can't wait to see how much my boy has grown in Ahsoka 🫶✨
Thank you so much for watching! I love this show too!
I’m currently in the process of watching every bit of Star Wars media on Disney plus (In timeline order) and I’m currently on season 2 of Rebels so this video couldn’t of come out at a better time!
Lmao I accidentally made this comment on one your shorts I didn’t mean to lol
all good! thanks for tuning in!
I did enjoy Rebels but I think I made a mistake watching it after Andor, seeing the Empire (especially in S1) other than Thrawn seem to comedically incompetent was distracting.
In Andor even lowly imperial army garrisons seem deadly, in Rebels imperial Stormtroopers are taken out by slingshots.
We all know why the tone is so different and who the audiences were but it was extremely jarring seeing the bumbling empire of Rebels.
Thrawn talks a big game but that’s all he does, talk, beloved character used by this dog show actually hurts me
@@tomgarton9442YES, finally. Every just talks about how good the characters are but nothing else like this point.
@@docsep1803 honestly rebels fans r the worst lol saying it is peak Star Wars is a crime😂😂
@@tomgarton9442 The Designs of Annakin and Yoda in Rebels alone doesn't make It peak lmao
Those who haven't watched Rebels show definitely give it a try, in order to understand the best Jedi, Kanna.
they should
As frustrated as i was with the clone wars getting canceled, i still gave rebels a chance. And grew to love it. Funny enough a good friend of mine on the other hand, refused to watch rebels. Even after numerous chances of trying to convince him to give it a shot, he wouldn't budge. I then asked him, if clone wars wasn't canceled and finished its original run, would he have been open to give rebels a chance? He said yes. Years later clone wars came back, got its proper ending, and my friend started binging rebels immediately after.
What did he think of Rebels?
@@wolfspiritrandom he liked it alot. He still gave some criticisms on being too kiddy at time, and lack of violence which i agree with. But after he finished the show, we had long discussions on the lore, references, connections, ect.... while playing gta online.
I appreciate how you covered the final duel between Maul and Kenobi. I still think that the video tribute done by Darth Porg titled “Hatred - Maul” is still the best summary of Maul’s life out of any summary and tribute videos.
I need to check it out
It’s a shame the episode was ruined by space aladdin running about with chopper
I'm not for the intense sequels bashing , but most themes that those movies wanted to explore where covered better in Star Wars Rebel, for example Rey and Ezra are similar in concept but Ezra's found family make more sense than Rey's one, it help that they started the story with knowing how they wanted to continue it
I might have to agree, and thats coming from a sequel fan
This really does bring light to why I think Rebels is the best star wars series. Everything that you said, I agreed with. The impact this series made on my life is something I will never forget. It's what what really kickstarted me into becoming a diehard star wars fan. Ezra is and always will be, my favourite star wars character ever just from his story and the impact he (and somewhat Kanan) made on the rest of the franchise.
i love reading comments like this, thanks for watching!
I was one of those guys who thought Rebels looked like a crappy replacement for Clone Wars. It wasn't until after Ahsoka was announced that I went through the show. I'm glad I did, because despite the flaws the show's actually pretty good.
Kannan's Death is one of the most emotional in all of star wars. Made even more emotional by The force returning his vision so he could look at hera with his own eyes. before his death. I can't think of a sadder death off the top of my head.
Season 4 of rebels is better than any season of clone wars I said it
Agreed, especially the latter half
Fair and i agree
Horrendous take it’s good but it’s good it surpass 1-3 and half of season 7 but other seasons are better than it
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@@Deity_devilI think rebels season 4 is where it got good
The gold man even tho I think u need some work as a critique but I’d love to see u look back on the original trilogy
what do you think I could work on? I'm always looking for ways to improve
@@thegoldman25talking about the cons instead of ignoring them
Animation is not the same as what I grew up on. I was Looney Toons and Tex Avery cartoons. I watched but wasn't a fan of the Hanna Barbera. G-Force was the only entry of Japanese anime. When cartoons started getting video gamey looking, I was well past showing interest.
But I dove into Mandalorian and Boba Fett and well, reaction videos on TH-cam. I learned many folks grew up on Clone Wars and express how great it was. I figured, I'd make it a mission to give it a whirl before the Obi-Wan Kenobi series aired.
So I started the Clone Wars.
The thumbnail image of Rebels made me turn away from it at first. It looked very kiddish. Same with Resistance.
However, by the time I got to Season 2 of Clone Wars, I decided to throw in a Rebels episode here and there.
To my surprise, I got hooked on Rebels and dove completely into the show as I suspended my Clone Wars viewing.
By the time Obi-wan Kenobi aired, I was done with Rebels and probably midway through Clone Wars Season 5. Of course, picking up the show with Maul, the Emperor, then Ahoska's trial, then Season 6, the final arcs in Clone Wars went by pretty quick. And they filled in the week long wait for the next Kenobi episodes.
Anyway, yes. Rebels is a top notch creation.
Rebels is awesome! Thanks for watching!
Chopper should be the star of a rated R star wars movie. Just single handedly carrying out graphic war crimes and laughing.
That droid is crazy
When this show is at its best; I really like the show and I used to watch it back when new episodes were airing. However when it is at its most flawed. It can very repetitive, more child friendly, and not as gritty as other parts of the franchise. So basically I would say its a good/good enough show for me personally. This is almost as long ArTorr review/retrospective of Star Wars Rebels.
ArTorr was a major influence for this video, he has excellent videos
Star wars rebels is a masterpiece not going to lie about that
0 lies told, it's brilliant!
Star Wars fandom is just a constant cycle of 'i don't like the New Thing, and i don't understand why all the kids these days are into it' followed by 5 years of the 'kids these days' liking it, and eventually those kids these days grow up, only to have the new star wars thing annoy them and the cycle continues.
except for Rise of Skywalker. that will always be a stain on the franchise (and i think they knew it when they were making it)
@@Jobotherthat's so true 😭 endless cycle of nostalgia bias
"that's not real starwars" is a codeword for "I'm no longer a child when watching this"
@@Jobother what makes TROS so univerally bad is that after the fanbase was divided in half after TLJ, the movie came out and somehow alienated both halves
This show is so underrated
straight facts spoken here
I'm guilty of sleeping on it until about 2 months ago
Better late than never!
Agreed
@@thegoldman25 Hey Gold Man. To answer your question from the chatooine show how does Ahsoka “show she’s not a Jedi?” In Episode 1 I believe Ahsoka told nuyang that she retrieved the star map from the night sister by using tactics a Jedi “normally wouldn’t do” or whatever she said. I don’t know the quote exactly but it was close to or very similar to that.
I watched rebels with zero expectations but this show suprised me sooo hard
I hope in a good way!
I like the efffort but I think you're missing a mayor part about how it was received back than.
we didn't have disney+ yet so it was just hoping that is was on disneyXD whenever your mom allows you to watch.
this means that you rarely get to view the complete show in the correct order meaning that each episode has to stand out on it's own
true i suppose
I would still have to say that the Clone Wars is my favorite Star Wars show out of them all, but Rebels still holds a special place in my heart because of how well done it was, as well as everything it's added to the canon and expanded upon.
Honestly the episode where chopper meets AP-5 is one of my favorites.
It's amazing
Kanans death is one of my favorite scenes in all of star wars
I've seen it so many times and I still cry
One thing you forgot to mention is that Sabine vs Gar Saxon ends with a mirror image of how Anakin vs Dooku ended with Sabine catching the Darksaber and almost killing Gar, Gar even tells Sabine to kill him just like how Palpatine told Anakin to Kill Dooku. The biggest difference is that while Anakin gave in and killed Dooku, Sabine sparred Gar only for her mother to kill him, kinda like that if Anakin didn’t kill Dooku then Palpatine was going to kill him himself
Your channel is one of if not my favorite Star Wars channels. Great video my man! I came to Rebels late, like 2020 during covid lockdowns. I ended up binge watching the entire series. I completely fell in love with the series and characters. Thanks for doing another video on one of my favorite shows.
Thank you for the kind words!
I feel like you're a bit too apologetic with the show.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think Rebels is the worst thing out there, but it's definitely a serious downgrade from clone wars and I hate the fact that it's such an important piece of media.
Now, if it wasn't advertised as a sort of sequel to Clone Wars, it could have been a nice piece of media in the catalogue.
However, the truth is, they were hoping to appease both a young audience and Clone Wars veterans, which was basically impossible.
Clone wars audience grew up and the show did with them, it started telling darker stories and touching on deeper subjects. I feel that if rebels was made with the same philosophy, that is: "Mature with your audience", the show would have been Andor before Andor, touching on much darker subjects such as genocide, abuse and racism. The empire is said to be terrible, but up until Andor we haven't seen actual dark stuff show on screen, such as proper torture.
The downgrade in quality also can't be excused by the show being a kid's show, as there are way better ones out there, such as Avatar, Adventure Time, heck, even some of the Looney Tunes.
Again, it's not the worst, but it's definitely a tough pill to swallow.
Again, it ain't the worst
Was Rebels perfect? No
Was it as good as Clone Wars? No
But imo it did its job in bringing a lot of people into the franchise. I have a friend who watched rebels before Clone Wars and she loves it. I watched most of Rebels before Clone Wars and enjoyed it and while I finished Clone Wars later on and saw it as superior I just think for the events that happened outside the creators control such as the lesser budget it was good.
One perspective I saw elsewhere…that I personally agree with but not everyone might…The Clone Wars had higher highs, but also some really low lows. Rebels may not hit as high as some arcs from The Clone Wars, but I think its low moments aren’t quite as bad as TCW, giving a more consistent feel across the whole show.
@@davidbeer5015 Yea Rebels at least knew what it was and kept to that feel I think for the most part. Clone Wars could have really good, dark, and mature stories that have a place among the greats of the franchise while then having an arc like the martez sister arc which really felt redundant and repetitive while watching it.
@@davidbeer5015idk man, Twilight of the Apprentice is my favorite Star Wars episode ever, besides that, I don't think it reaches the highs of Clone Wars.
Rebels is pretty boring . Storm troopers were losing there uniforms left and right and the space whales were very strange. And also the spinning lightsabers that the user could fly ?? Sabine was nice actually, space alladin was dumb, mandalorian queen/possible jedi/ former imperial inventor/ artist was annoying. The robot and owl looking guy were a waste of screen time
This series and The Clone Wars will always have a special place in my heart
Same here!
Same
Same!
I didn’t get to grow up with clone wars cause I wasn’t into Star Wars at the time. When I did become a fan, I just watched full episodes on TH-cam as much as I could. Then Rebels came along and fully made me a Star Wars fan. Thank you for this video!
Don't ever sleep on the animated star wars shows. I really like the ghost crew because they remind me of my family.
especially Kanan and Hera who remind me a lot of my parents
and Kanan and Ezra remind me a lot of me and my dad!
Yes! I love rebels, and everyone considers at a kids show, but it is so good at the end.
it is a kids show and it is really good, both can be true!
Interesting thing is when people ask how they had a kid when they hadn't said I love you. Sad thing though, this is very much possible in reality. It is possible to procreate without saying I love you first. People who have asked, well, I'm happy for you for not having to endure such a problem in your life.
Kanan and Hera always had that bond tho, it was kinda implied they loved each other. And the kid was an accident lol
@thegoldman25 yeah, exactly.
fuming that you didn’t mention that in kanans last moments the force gave him his vision back to see hera one last time
there's only so much I can discuss!
I do have to say, kanan, quoting to do or do not line I think shows a drastic contrast between the Jedi of that era, and how he is different from them, he admits that he doesn’t know what it means, and I think that is a big thing because he’s not blinded by dogma or pride like the Jedi he grew up with where, and by the end of it, he learns the true meaning of do or do not
Always loved rebels :) Glad to see it getting so much love lately...even by people who at the time hated it because of the huge difference to the clone wars.
I will defend this series to my dying breath
A great show not a masterpiece but it was a great ride. I’ll tell you though chopper > R2 yeah I said it!
I remember watching this for the first time as it came out. I really enjoyed it and never held the Clone Wars cancelation against it. I cried like a child when Kanin died. One of my favorite scenes with Hera was when she was chastising her father and her voice broke into her native accent. It really showed how emotional she was. I loved the character development everyone received. Even Agent Callis got development. I recently rewatched the whole series. Still enjoyed it
I practically don't see any filler. When you meet the Purgil, you now meet them again in Ahsoka.
YAAAAY SPACE WHALES, in ahsoka I hope they don’t come in to save the day again cuz it’s STUPID wouldn’t put it past Disney tho and u morons would still lap it up 😂😂😂😂
I love Clone Wars; its defenitly my favourite piece of Star Wars media. But I adored and still adore Rebels and it will always have a special place in my heart.
I love both so much, I just like rebels a little bit more
What a beautiful thumbnail!
Goated show
You already know it!
Honestly my only gripe with it was how the skipped mkst of Ezra turning to the dark side but it honestly is only a minor one
Finally some love for the show I grew up with! This show is peak star wars in my eyes.
Agreed!
Braindead
great revisit… i didn’t get to Rebels until late in the game & binged the entire thing. well worth it… keep up bringing us awesome content bro
Will do! Thanks for watching!
I still strongly disdain how rebels was handled man. Art was some how more hit or miss than the clone wars, which yeah.... but the dramatic nerf they did with some of the story and characters kinda just, pained me. Especially with the Empire. I get it, it's still a kids show, but show was Clone Wars, make stormtroopers actually threatening somewhat. But what really annoyed me, even when I was watching the show, was Ezra. God I hate Ezra just Ahsoka, if she never aged based season 1.
I didn't grow up with the clone wars or rebels, was finally able to watch both when Disney+ became a thing (yeah I was that late) but I absolutely loved both shows.
While I think the Clone Wars is the better show I personally prefer Rebels for it's story and characters.
both are great!
@@thegoldman25Absolutely!
amazing video, loved almost every moment of it. unfortunately, you forgot a key piece of information being that Zeb and Kallus are boyfriends and love eachother bc of what happened on the ice moon of Geonosis
lol
Rebles will always be super special to me i was 9 when jt came out and grew up watching it with my family, it comferted me alot during covid and ive had a huge obsession with it sinse last summer its such a good shoe too and probably one of mt favourite star wars things there is