my first win in general was with hazel... i really like summoner classes... also you mentioned the synergy between selicy and zenith but not fate shield which is done the same way but in this case it almost entirely removes the risk of ever losing that 200 shield... you really gotta appreciate how much thought was put into these characters starting kits and their synergies
I was not aware of that synergy when I first made this video but yeah thats nuts The Synergies run much deeper than you would expect at first glance no doubt! Thanks for watching
I freaking love Selicy, got my first win with her. Frost is easy to understand, and can be stacked very quickly for easy damage (especially with double cast). There are also a good number of artifacts that provide additional methods of stacking frost (frost on fire, ice bolt on jam, etc.). Combine that with fate shield, which gives reliable and fast (though often temporary) cover, and you have a character that can potentially deal a lot damage very quickly while taking very little.
I basically spent my first victorious run spamming frost spells, and some fire spells (along with combust) for some extra damage. My stratagy was to constantly use blizzard and/or doublecast hail while filling the entire enemy field with fire. If I get combust, even more fire! I probably didn't use snowpiercer as much as I should have, but if I'm repeatedly stacking frost in quick succession, I'm dealing damage pretty efficiently anyways.
Slap on the artifact that heals you 20 hp every time you do frost damage and your basically unkillable. I did three genocide loops with Selicy and probably could have done more but with how intense the game was getting with all the spells I was throwing out the frame rate was dipping to slide show quality and I took a dive.
You can get money from executing bosses with Shiso, but it's not the final hit that gives you the money (the one that brings them to 1 HP), but the hit after that which murders them. I think saving up money with him can be viable sometimes, particularly if you get the time slow card, which can help him a lot.
I have played him a lot more since this and Lynchpin still feels like a trap for new players but for people who can reasonably expect to beat the game it seems OP. You take some extra damage and the run takes awhile to get off the ground but once its going you are a god haha
First win for me was from Gunner. I focused on Doublelift and Convergence for Jam skills and trinity. Also very helpful when you find consume or jam artifacts. And when you get time slow, you can go ham. Since his gun can restore mana REALLY quickly, you can spam everything along with your jams if you manage to keep hitting people. People tend to shy away from jam based decks but when you could essentially have the ability to generate unlimited mana, jam becomes so overpowered with jam artifacts that give shield, frost bolts, and make them cost one. You can easily get like 300+ shield every round when you cast your jams, and potentially get even more when games last longer
@@AltraNova Damn thats op. I think if you go all in and get the needed mana regen to start breaking tiles fast enough that build is very strong. To me it felt so weak early that I didnt think newer players would be able to make it work however I could totally be wrong. Keep kicking butt!
@@purplatypus7405 Selicy. If you attack from the front tile you end up on the second last tile of the mob's side and if nobody's on the back row then you just get a free 200 shield.
@@chris4660 That's also how you can make decent offensive use of Zenith. If you cast it just before you dash in with her weapon, it casts it on the enemy side of the field. It requires a bit of timing to get it right, but can be pretty effective. If a bit gimmicky.
I think your advice goes out the window if you enter the game blind. My first ever win was with Shiso doing the exact opposite of what you proposed, barely spending a dime and only fishing for root/shield cards that would let me actually land shots. I would personally only consider Saffron good for new players because she has enough variety to teach dodging patterns and card pool, not because she is easy to win with. Every other kit (except Violette) has very obvious strategies that may not be optimal but can still be effective enough to get the win.
Awesome to hear shizo works with you! My opinions are obviously biased vs my experience and I could not with trying to only use shizos gun and I still think it's not that powerful compared to what we could be doing. I do disagree about saffron though as I think saffron both default and chrono are very powerful. Default has the most powerful starting artifact while chrono has the most powerful weapon. Again just my opinions and thanks for sharing yours and watching!
@@purplatypus7405 Saffrons kits definately aren't a problem by themselves. The issue is the lack of direction in card/artifact choice as they're intentionally built with a lot of power but no theme. Hence, she's bad at teaching deckbuilding, which is my main draw against her for beginners.
@@lucashira337 I totally see where you are coming from! I do disagree but I understand what you mean. I think the lack of obvious direction is ideal for new players as it lets them experiment with everything and still do decently well. It depends on what you prioritize as the most important thing to learn. I consider learning what everything does and learning how to avoid taking damage is more important than learning how to make a super strong synergistic deck at least for a new player. I consider deck building kind of secondary to learning enemy patterns and what spells you like. However in something like Slay the spire I would lean towards your opinions no doubt where deck building is more important to winning a run imo
@@purplatypus7405 Can definately feel you on that. I've played a lot more tactical rougelikes like Enter the Gungeon and Crypt of the Necrodancer than say, Slay the Spire which means I already had more of a foundation in regards to dodging and positioning so deckbuilding would've been a bigger hurdle for me.
I got the shopkeeper first because I bought the game specifically because I heard about her and was like "This character is a meme and I love it". I think I spent a solid 2-3 hours just rushing her stage 1 fight before I beat her. I find her to be one of the best characters for new players not because she's beginner friendly (because she isn't), but because she gives you access to the shop so you can learn items easier, and her low starting HP forces you to actually learn patterns if you want to get anywhere with her. I'm well aware she's not made to be played by a new player, and maybe this experience is unique to me, but either way, I am still having an absolute blast playing as her.
Shoot keeper is for sure the most op character I would say. I played a lot of Eden after making this video and the shopkeep is both the most fun and strongest. Glad you are having fun keep it up and see if you can 100% the game!
In my experience (only played 6ish hours) I’ve had the most successful with Gunner and Hazel. Oddly enough I got my first win on Hazel. However I stopped using Saffron on due to how much easier she is and that I wanted to try other characters. My biggest issues are Selicy and Shiso since I have a hard time using their weapons. However I know if I give everyone more time I’ll get better. Good video and thanks for the information.
Thanks for watching 100% that makes you a winner in my book well that plus you actually beating the game Hazel I find to be one of that harder characters although Minnie gun is amazing and getting the SD turret is just insane on her. On paper I feel like she is good I just think Hexawan is bad and I always try to use to much Hexawan when I take her because it feels thematic.
For Violette, I realised that if you give yourself hundreds upon hundreds of fragile and then cast Leech on an enemy, you can heal hundreds of your HP. If you spend enough time, you could get from 2 to full HP in 1 battle
Shiso execute was the first time I ever beat the shopkeep, had a bunch of money, pinned her down and just unloaded the gun into her, works... surprisingly well, Though the only reason I started the fight was due to having Reva as a back-up incase she did kill me. Hardest issue with Execute is that delay to firing, but on enemies that stand still a lot that is a rather effective way to take them out, which is where the traps he starts with are rather nice as a root option (If rather unreliable at times) Still don't consider myself good at the game in the slightest, usually end up with decks spamming wide areas instead of accurate hits.
Shiso is no doubt powerful but you do take lotsa damage no doubt. There are a lot of attacks that can start after you start your attack and still hit you before you can dodge. also reva reflect just insta kills you haha. Still its a fun way to play
I just managed to beat the game my first time this weekend. I used Reva, and lucked out. I had like +9 mana regen, so I could just hold R for immortality. I actually beat Terrable on my first attempt.
@@purplatypus7405Ahhh, I was playing and nearly won again with default Saffron. I picked up the ruby and honed, as well as the one that makes your weapon shoot homing missiles. I was doing obscene amounts of damage with the machine gun alone. Eventually lost to Terrable after shaving her down to 1200 hp. Also, I learned that Violette gets insane in the later rounds and uses both of her field attacks at the same time. Hazel is hilariously easy when you can just mow down her constructs. I didn't win, but that's not a run I'm going to forget.
Selicy is definitely my main. I like her load out, but her alt load is my go-to because how aggressive I can play. Throwing frost out like it's nothing is so much fun, slap on a bunch of jams with the artifact that turns them into frost bolts and the one that heals you everytime you do frost damage, your near unkillable.
@@purplatypus7405 This game is honestly amazing. I've been playing since the launch (one of the few games I've bought for multiple consoles.) And it's still a blast. All the characters are so unique a varied that they can suit many peoples different play styles. Violette was a hard one for me to wrap my head around, still not my style but I appreciate and like the complexity of her kit.
money stacking on shiso is so nuts, i feel like i cheesed most of the bosses, and just got to the last stage for the first time. i did die to phase 2 tho so idk lol
I got the game on switch recently and I already have all the characters and as soon as I got a decent run with shiso I was hooked, I already didn't go to shops often so shiso was great like I've already killed shopkeep and gotten all endings by just doing nothing but killing every enemy with lynchpin. I get your argument but I think it's more of a decision between whether you prefer lynchpin to be a way to generate resources better than normal or just upgrading it, it's mainly about if you want to use lynchpin to build your deck with lynchpin or if you want to build your deck around lynchpin. Either way cool video smoke grass skate fast eat bass
To be honest I'm not too good, outside of lynchpin shiso I haven't beaten the game any way outside of pacifist shopkeeper. I usually think I'm not too good at vidya games so hearing an *EPIC PRO GAMER* was encouraging, good day to you.
something cool with Violette is you can use freeze/slow time to use all your mana on her primary weapon. then you can step forward for example and fire off like 7 of her shots
Execute on shiso is OP. I beat it first try with that load out. All you do is kill all enemy’s with his weapon to get money, never spend money, and get phalanx spells for defense. Toward the end of the game I had around $1700+ and was dealing massive gun damage just spamming it at the bosses and gate while keeping shield up for easy wins.
I think late game it is indeed OP the issue is there is a large part of the early game you are pretty weak and take a lot of damage since things die slow to your gun. However I agree late game is very OP but is still a weak sera cannon
Honestly, as a newb myself, I gotta say: Lynchpin IS broken. Glass Flute and Magnifying glass turn your weapon into a single use Sera Cannon, which if you DO fall for the "trap", means a LOT of damage. Also, it's the easiest build to turn into a Sera Cannon build you mentioned, as you said, as it is REALLY good at generating that critical mass of money in the first place to break Serra Cannon. In my case, I did beat Eden with over 1k money, meaning i could just delete mobs with 1 shot of Lynchpin and could just delete Serif with continuous fire.
You are not wrong with how powerful lynchpin is but when I say noob I more mean people who have not win get. Lynchpin is very weak for the first 2-3 bosses a lot of time and for new players who struggle adding extra difficulty to that part of the game makes it s bit of a trap imo. However if you can regularly win or get to Kate game no doubt it's a ezpz win
@@purplatypus7405 I've just finished a couple of games with Shiso and i really don't get why its a trap. If you go for netural/pacifist, you can easily ping yourself 4 times at the shop before the first boss, at which point you probably deal about 100-150 damage with it. All you have to do is root the boss, throw an orbital beam and a couple of shots and youre good. And in the late game you easily deal about 1k damage with it. And then, it synergizes well with any fragile/time slow or stop effects youve found even if you dont get smth like Sera Cannon. I honestly think its way easier to finish the game by hoarding money than by spending it.
@@1llum1nate it is a trap for new players specifically is all. not for anyone with decent experience. The root it very brutal and bosses once you start using hell passes especially are very very fast and require careful timing and can hit like a truck Its very powerful and can easily win the run but for a new inexperienced player they can just be ded
@@purplatypus7405 I feel like my first impression was pretty bad with this kit. I got no mana up and pretty low mana regen, so the wrist watch was too expensive for me to use well.
@@radiofrequency5801 once you get the hang of it it really starts to click. Time slow is one of the most powerful effects in the game so having it for 1 mana whenever you want is nutz
Sweet guide :). I disagree on Violet personally. She was the first character I beat the game with. She definitely *isn't* the easiest character to win with and she is really overwhelming the first couple runs, but eventually, you don't really have to think about your weapon attack all that much - you can grab multiple buffs on every attack and you know what you need when you press the button. The upside for her is *really* high too, having easily accessible mana + trinity + Shield is insane. She has built in frost synergy with fragile (given how good frostbite is). She has built in trinity synergy, and because of how good shield and mana is, you can kind of spec into *anything* and still be very effective. No other character has the QOL she does once you've done a couple runs with her ability. I also think her starting kit is really exceptional for pretty much any build. Corset is *very* strong with her kit. Frostbite is *very* strong, generically, with her kit. Mana steal is *very* *very* strong with easy trinity. The 200 damage hit is the *worst* ability and is hard to use, but is still rather useful once you're used to it, and you can usually remove it once your build starts to come together. Definitely rough the first few times though and her starting with 900 health isn't all that great either xD. But given how hard the game is, I think the learning curve on her tapers off really quickly, as the second you have her ability down, she is easier than most characters to do well with (IMO at least).
I both agree and disagree haha. I really do think she is powerful no doubt! But personally I've just struggled with her since she is just a bit more complex than say saffron. But you are correct she is op no doubt
on violette, one of the golden artifacts is phased shields, basically, if you get hit once, you get invincibility for 1 second, however it applies 1 fragile on you, so basically getting hit hurt more but you wont get wombo comboed to death. combine with phased shields, all the fragile will stick to you and any subsequent hit won't matter, allowing you to freely gain spell power. also, turrets on enemy tiles make it easy. shiso's starting spells are pretty easy to use if you know the right thing to do. first claw trap, place your marker over one of the two claw traps, activate align, enemy is now stuck in claw trap for 4 seconds, orbital beam, step slash, or lynchpin for the kill. shield throw isn't a trap, just need to spec into root in hearth like wreath. i usually remove diagonal beam because it kills hostages.
Thanks for the comment all good points. I think shield throw is a trap for new players myself. It's powerful no doubt but can cause death for sure as well haha.
Shield throw can be a "trap", but not really also. Most bosses have a second phase, where all their attacks become more difficult to dodge, and they tend to hit a lot more, a lot quicker. Shield throw, can bypass all of this nonsense. First, either save selicy or apply fragile to an enemy, then gain 0.75 of enemy health as shield, then just one shot the enemy for a beautiful perfect after you root them.
@@geraldloo1639 I think that is a good strat but I don't think that falls into the new player friendly category I was focused on haha. Still thanks for the ideas!
Nice guide. It never occurred to me to synergize a movement spell/attack with zenith/ which ever the spell that branches from the corners. Will definitely start trying that. I have yet beat the game but I partially blame it on me playing it on the switch. When the game gets busy the game hiccups and my timings get thrown off. There have been many a shopkeeper attempt and I'm down to the last 1000 hp when she throws out the crystal attack and I lag SMH. I learned to abandon the switch version for any serious attempts and will pick it up pc when it goes on sale.
With Shiso you can just focus Phalanx and stack shields, maybe prioritize chest/hazard for money if you want. After 2nd boss you can just nuke them from then on with your weapon. By the 2-3 last stages you one hit everything besides bosses and and at the last boss you hit 800+ every shot. Remember you only lose 1.5 damage for each shot, at some point that doesn't matter anymore. The noob trap is trying to get as much money or trying play around the weapon (too much) maximizing the damage or whatever and not figuring out that the weapon will be OP if you give it some time. So get just get a bunch of shield and a couple of spells you like (I prefer Aubis to poison everything) and eventually you won't need those at all because you're one shotting everything.
Shiso is super powerful but I think his extra weak early game makes him a bit weaker than what most think. All characters can be super op broken by the end game if you get the right stuff but characters that are weak in the early game I think stand out as traps for new players
Havent watched, but I honestly think the best character for newbies are default saffron. Theyre so good at teaching the player about things. They only teach us to move, cast, and use weapon, so the new players doesnt know what spells there are and how to synergize them. So default saffron which has no gimmick at all and can use whatever spell is thrown at her is good to teach new players what spells there is in the game and get used to the controls
I beat the game on my 6th run (or so), I ended up doing a neutral ending against the wall (It was my first attempt against him). I had a busted shield / deck management build with my Reva, I could litteraly tank the damages and just throw everything I had (I still have no clue at all about the pattern of the wall honestly). I didn't even notice I won (I figured out with this video, because I unlocked the second set of skills) since the game kills you in this ending anyway. Honestly, I am still way too bad at the game to reproduce this with another char, even with a chrono build, I juste had insane synergies. Shield runs are much much easier, because the game becomes much more forgiving. I was taking at least 200 dmg per fight, but np it was on my shield. You only lack dps, but this is perfect for a beginner, because it gives you more Time to learn the patterns.
Yeah no doubt in the lower hell passes I think shield is really good. Once you get higher though I think damage is suuuuper important and shields lose a lot of usefulness besides maybe 1 or 2 great spells Good job on your kick ass win!
@@purplatypus7405 I am still far from the level of the other hell, I guess I haven't seen a fraction of what the game has to offer ^^ I would also add that shield have the drawback of creating the bad habit of taking hits that should be avoidable. And I definitely see why it should not be that great at higher level. In my case, I had a jam deck build with "consumate" passives and stuff like that, so I still had a decent dps. I just tried another Shield run, it is true that focusing more on shield gives very lackluster damages, I got wrecked by the wall ^^ I think I might stick to your chanel. The game is awesome, has a lot of depth to it, and fun deckbuilding aspect. My beginner point of view agrees with most of your suggestions too. The only thing I am afraid of is the time I am going to spend into this ^^
@@Shinigami435 Thanks for the support! Dont forget this video is pretty old so a lot of my views have probably changed. I do recommend me newer runs for up to date info! todays run was actually a slaughter where Its just 2 spells ezpz win haha
A bit of a cheesy way to play with Shiso, it's to do everything you can to get either Cassidy's Scarf or a time slow/stop spell, and also hoard a lot of money. Once you have that, you can easily spam his weapon during those 5 seconds of time stop and do an insane amount of damage in just an instant.
They've since replaced Mine in Terra's starting kit with the slightly less situational Poison Tails. Not really enough to move the needle, though. Seriously, the only place Mine is really useful is against Terra herself and you can't do that if you're playing as her. Fate Shield is three tiles... but centered on you, so you can use it as two tiles if you pay enough attention. Furthermore, it's meant to be used similarly to Zenith where Snowpiercer lets you skip most of the board and potentially KEEP the 200 shield. Seriously, with only two tiles before it's off the board... Diagonal Beam is actually her main means of saving the hostages with an explosive crystal behind him. Distress calls in general have her second only to Hazel because of this and her shield focus (Hazel can save explosive crystal hostages by hitting them with her wrench because they're considered structures and the others by putting structures between them and the gun turrets).
yeah i dont disagree with anything I dont think. Kepe in mind this video is over a year old and I did probably hundreds after this so my views probably changed a lot haha
the very first win i had only 8 hours into the game was with manafire gunner, i just took every single target spell and all i did was root the boss and spam my abilities while shooting. You could do like 1000 damage when you empty your entire deck in 10 seconds on the boss
No doubt it can work but overall Id say just having passive mana regen instead of needing to use your weapon is idea. Glad you kicked that runs ass though!
So I just recently started playing this game, and I gotta say, I have much less trouble using Terra than Reva. Reva I can't get past the second boss fight, while Terra easily reaches the 4th boss without a revive, that being said I kinda caught really quickly that you gotta set up for her a lot, but in return you can get away with some nasty damage output and some cheese that works even against bosses.
I would have to argue with Terra. I honestly found her one of the easiest character to play. She requires honestly the least amount of thought out of all the characters I have ran. Delete mine then upgrade excavate. Literally that is the deck right there and she just steam rolls. It is tricky at first but Terra essentially removes aiming since your end goal is to get your opponent stuck and with the upgrades to excavate and items to boost mana it becomes really easy to just spam breaking tiles. Terra was my go to character for the dont add a card into my deck. Terra's fault is one thing. She relies on artifacts and good ones. When it comes to a lot of the characters. I have found myself disliking only a few of them because of having what I consider a bad kit or bad weapon. However this is just my opinion and I found your video to be very interesting to watch.
I have to argue the opposite haha. That might be a deck once you remove mine but it's a very very weak one. The real issue with Terra I'd she gets worse the more enemies you fight as you can't break tiles with enemies on them plus since you need to break tiles it means you need to move around to each tile frequently to keep them broken greatly reducing your freedom to dodge attacks unless you let your damage go to shizz. Not to mention the final bosses seem designed to ruin this strat with each one changing the rules with the wall making half the tiles unbreakable, serif causing you to change sides on the field and terrable invading your side . I'm not saying it's impossible or anything but there are far easier ways to win with most characters I would argue haha. Thanks for watching and the input
I completly dissagree with the shiso thing. Shiso is the first character i won with. By the end of the game i had over 2k money and during the final neutral fight i didnt even move at all, i just spammed the shoot button and the boss die. The hard part is early game. Just need survivability artifacts. The gun also self scales with the money making late game kinda free. Also most enemies stay still for several seconds making them an easy target
Interesting. I found Saffron HORRIBLE as a new player. Her lack of any innate synergies made her so hard to play. And step slash is a hard begginer spell. Its anchor AND moves you, I found Hazel easy to pick up, but your right she is a one trick pony. As for Shisos bomb thing, I use it to weaken enemies so that the gun can take them out. For instance if an enemy has 120 HP, I can hit them for 80,
I think her not having innate synergies is a positive as a new player as you are more free and open to learn plus all her spells are quite powerful imo but I also totally understand what you are saying. Yeah shiso is pretty powerful imo just felt like people think the weapon means you can't spend money which is a trap imo
As a new player I didn't and she almost made me turn away from the game completly. When your a begginer your flying blind, and most of her starter spells are hard to hit with, intentionally have no synergy with each other, and you have no idea how they work. Your left with no direction with her as a begginer. Which is the worst as a begginer. Being more flexible with build is what you want to do when your proficient with the game. Thats my opinion anyway
@@davidspektorov8262 agree to disagree friend haha. Your experience is your experience which was just different from mine. Hope you still found some value in the video though!
@@purplatypus7405 I did with the delay ice trick. I assumed I couldn't cast spells when doing Iceslashinyas attack. Thats so dope. In terms of design shes my fave.
Wait, people put Hazels turrets in the back? The first time I unlocked her, I noticed right from the start that the best position for her Turret is generally in the Front Row.
@@purplatypus7405 nah, i think what really matters is knowing very well the character you are going to main. Plus she synergies very well with earth/flow, so that's a plus!
@@MrYami0 You are correct. I love that there is a character for every playstyle. Even though Terra is not good in my hands some people like you they click with which is dope. Thanks for watching friend!
@@purplatypus7405 Another thing that is fun is the more loadouts mod with a 20XX shiso that is essentially fox from Melee. Maybe a follow up on this video or some good old mod reviews. Execute Shiso is all I played for about a week and got all of my first hell passes with him, makes everything trivial
Personally, I don't think reva is that easy. I'd put her around Hazel or Shiso, since while some characters can deal ignorant damage (Saff, Gunner, Selicy) Reva can only do damage by risking shield or by risking health. Reflector window isn't THAT tight, but it'll still be hard for newbies. Definitely not easier than Selicy
@@thestickopia4619 Shopkeep is hard as balls so no rush! There is a cheese tactic if you want to do it that way though. Selicy is dope as hell no doubt. she can make you take some more damage than needed but no doubt had great early game damage
@@purplatypus7405 killed shopkeep as selicy. The farthest I’ve gotten on a murder route was the last boss before eden which was terra also done as selicy
Is 10 hours still considered a beginner? Because I beat pacifist on shield reva by just getting high mana regen and spamming reflect on basically every boss including terrable
@@purplatypus7405 Hmm, ok I didn't have much skill in such games before so it probably just came from the realization that mana upgrades + reflector spam is very powerful since reflector doesn't have a big cooldown Thanks for the answer
@@neikrodent if you can survive with reva while only getting mana regen then yeah the payoff is an easy instant win since you are invincible it can be hard to actually deal damage with her in the early game but overall yeah id say thats a if you want to win do this kinda strat haha
This video is approaching a year old so the info is very dated. Gunner sucks hardcore and is one of the weakest characters although he did get a big buff in patch 1.5 so i dont think he is as bad as Break Terra or Teardown Hazel
I know this video is like a month old but I just picked up the game a bit under a week ago and I agree and disagree with some points. For some reason I can't seem to lose on violet yet. I think pressure on using her attack properly was over valued. I just use the shield if I need to and attack in early floors otherwise mostly ignoring it. I wouldn't call lynchpin a noob trap but definately harder to utilize to full effectiveness. Some bosses have openings to use it on *notably terra who is a godam cuck*. It's strength comes from getting you to bosses healthy so you can focus your deck on stuff that isn't necessarily great for casual battles. Using selicy's basic attack to full effectiveness is too big brain for me to comment on, only played her once. I think the issue new players also make on hazel is over committing to structures and not learning when to just leave a tower to it's fate. Your reva analysis was pretty accurate. I personally disagree with the shield throw part and I would like to add 2 other comments on reva. Diag beam is probably something I remove instant I don't need it's damage and that self damage such as corset can be reflected so that's something to keep in mind. I'd like to add that default saffron was really well designed as a mini tutorial, thunder teaches about non projectile attacks. Kinetic wave and frostbolt teach synergies and the dash teaches you about movement abilities and temporary positioning. Chrono is amazing but I feel like wristwatch can teach too much of an over-reliance. Using it too much can mess up the rhythm of some attacks, throw away too much mana and give you a sense of safety you don't have. Used right tho godam is wristwatch amazing.
I'm pretty bad at this game, 6-7 is the farthest stage I've been in so far and that's with Terra. I had plenty of root spells and kept on breaking the enemy's tiles and that worked til I faced Gunner. Probably the character second to Selicy that I find the hardest to beat. I can't get past 3-7 with any other character, however, this is mostly because my knowledge of the game is lacking.
I find Tera wins most consistently with anima/ice flow builds. Just pump out fire and forget fire field spells while building flow with ice and hearth spells. Her weapon has great synergy with fire spells with the whole locking them into your fire fields, and getting bonus mana regen to keep adding more fire. I'd say break tera is actually stronger than pyro tera at even just building fire decks for that reason of limiting enemy movement while burning them up.
@@Nomans_Nomen I disagree with Break terra being any good at all haha. Pyro ive had more luck with though. Breaking tiles and making people stand on fire is just typically worse than ring of fire plus brushfire imo
@@purplatypus7405 I guess it just depends on how you determine value. Sure, setting up broken tiles on your opponents field takes away from mana that could be used on damage, but you get a guaranteed window of success where you can combo high damage spells into their restricted space, while getting basically infinite scaling mana regen for that combo. It's a slower pace, but a safe and steady one, and I have obliterated bosses just doing that a couple of times while clearing consistently with her. The other key thing is that only takes a line straight across a bosses field to disrupt their attacks or lock them in place for you to spam on them, so typically no more than 4 broken tiles are needed for a setup.
@@Nomans_Nomen I have no doubt you got mad skillz with her for sure. Im just saying id rather be doing other things with my mana than breaking tiles as I personally find it a negetive as it causes enemies and some attacks to behave in different ways and can lead to taking more damage at least for me
First non-Saffron win was with Selicy, but not gonna lie, I only picked her up initially because she was (and still is) such a pain to face.
She is buff as a character and as a boss no joke. Good job! One of my favorite characters for sure
Dude, is it me or is Saffron just a goddamn hard counter to Gunner? Those damn dolls punish the M4 so hard...
yeah same
I just started playing last week and she’s just my favorite character to play lmao
Cheesed shopkeeper and died, but my first run as Shopkeeper was how I got my first win haha.
Shopkeeper is super op but also super fun.
Thanks for watching
Tell me how to shopkeeper pls xD
For some reason I'm really afraid of spending money
Lmao I feel like that’s gonna be me lol
my first win in general was with hazel... i really like summoner classes... also you mentioned the synergy between selicy and zenith but not fate shield which is done the same way but in this case it almost entirely removes the risk of ever losing that 200 shield... you really gotta appreciate how much thought was put into these characters starting kits and their synergies
I was not aware of that synergy when I first made this video but yeah thats nuts
The Synergies run much deeper than you would expect at first glance no doubt! Thanks for watching
I freaking love Selicy, got my first win with her. Frost is easy to understand, and can be stacked very quickly for easy damage (especially with double cast). There are also a good number of artifacts that provide additional methods of stacking frost (frost on fire, ice bolt on jam, etc.). Combine that with fate shield, which gives reliable and fast (though often temporary) cover, and you have a character that can potentially deal a lot damage very quickly while taking very little.
I basically spent my first victorious run spamming frost spells, and some fire spells (along with combust) for some extra damage. My stratagy was to constantly use blizzard and/or doublecast hail while filling the entire enemy field with fire. If I get combust, even more fire! I probably didn't use snowpiercer as much as I should have, but if I'm repeatedly stacking frost in quick succession, I'm dealing damage pretty efficiently anyways.
@@r.p.7174 Frost is super buff no doubt some of the most powerful and fun spells! Many a highlights to be had when the god of frost is called upon
Slap on the artifact that heals you 20 hp every time you do frost damage and your basically unkillable. I did three genocide loops with Selicy and probably could have done more but with how intense the game was getting with all the spells I was throwing out the frame rate was dipping to slide show quality and I took a dive.
You can get money from executing bosses with Shiso, but it's not the final hit that gives you the money (the one that brings them to 1 HP), but the hit after that which murders them. I think saving up money with him can be viable sometimes, particularly if you get the time slow card, which can help him a lot.
I have played him a lot more since this and Lynchpin still feels like a trap for new players but for people who can reasonably expect to beat the game it seems OP. You take some extra damage and the run takes awhile to get off the ground but once its going you are a god haha
characters I’ve won with:
Default Saffron: Flow deck
Default Selicy: Frost with Meltdown
Default Terra: Break Flow
First win for me was from Gunner. I focused on Doublelift and Convergence for Jam skills and trinity. Also very helpful when you find consume or jam artifacts. And when you get time slow, you can go ham. Since his gun can restore mana REALLY quickly, you can spam everything along with your jams if you manage to keep hitting people. People tend to shy away from jam based decks but when you could essentially have the ability to generate unlimited mana, jam becomes so overpowered with jam artifacts that give shield, frost bolts, and make them cost one. You can easily get like 300+ shield every round when you cast your jams, and potentially get even more when games last longer
Gunner is totally OP with Time slow no joke haha! Good job kicking ass
An excellent overview. Lots of synergies I hadn't spotted before.
Glad this was helpful to you!
Thank you for watching
First non saffron win for me was Terra break with only excavate and shield up. Lol.
Damn! You got mad skillz haha
@@purplatypus7405 got add one frost on hit and excavate hits a lot when you break all the tiles. Plus the artifact that heals health on frost damage
@@AltraNova Damn thats op. I think if you go all in and get the needed mana regen to start breaking tiles fast enough that build is very strong. To me it felt so weak early that I didnt think newer players would be able to make it work however I could totally be wrong.
Keep kicking butt!
How do you destroy eden with a build like that though
@@ZZI44418 was neutral win killed the wall
You can also basic attack and drop fate shield on their last tile and often times get 200 shield for 2 mana.
I've not heard of this. Attack with what character?
@@purplatypus7405 Selicy. If you attack from the front tile you end up on the second last tile of the mob's side and if nobody's on the back row then you just get a free 200 shield.
@@chris4660 you just blew my mind
yo wtf
@@chris4660 That's also how you can make decent offensive use of Zenith.
If you cast it just before you dash in with her weapon, it casts it on the enemy side of the field.
It requires a bit of timing to get it right, but can be pretty effective. If a bit gimmicky.
I think your advice goes out the window if you enter the game blind. My first ever win was with Shiso doing the exact opposite of what you proposed, barely spending a dime and only fishing for root/shield cards that would let me actually land shots. I would personally only consider Saffron good for new players because she has enough variety to teach dodging patterns and card pool, not because she is easy to win with. Every other kit (except Violette) has very obvious strategies that may not be optimal but can still be effective enough to get the win.
Awesome to hear shizo works with you! My opinions are obviously biased vs my experience and I could not with trying to only use shizos gun and I still think it's not that powerful compared to what we could be doing.
I do disagree about saffron though as I think saffron both default and chrono are very powerful. Default has the most powerful starting artifact while chrono has the most powerful weapon.
Again just my opinions and thanks for sharing yours and watching!
@@purplatypus7405 Saffrons kits definately aren't a problem by themselves. The issue is the lack of direction in card/artifact choice as they're intentionally built with a lot of power but no theme. Hence, she's bad at teaching deckbuilding, which is my main draw against her for beginners.
@@lucashira337 I totally see where you are coming from! I do disagree but I understand what you mean. I think the lack of obvious direction is ideal for new players as it lets them experiment with everything and still do decently well. It depends on what you prioritize as the most important thing to learn. I consider learning what everything does and learning how to avoid taking damage is more important than learning how to make a super strong synergistic deck at least for a new player.
I consider deck building kind of secondary to learning enemy patterns and what spells you like. However in something like Slay the spire I would lean towards your opinions no doubt where deck building is more important to winning a run imo
@@purplatypus7405 Can definately feel you on that. I've played a lot more tactical rougelikes like Enter the Gungeon and Crypt of the Necrodancer than say, Slay the Spire which means I already had more of a foundation in regards to dodging and positioning so deckbuilding would've been a bigger hurdle for me.
I got the shopkeeper first because I bought the game specifically because I heard about her and was like "This character is a meme and I love it". I think I spent a solid 2-3 hours just rushing her stage 1 fight before I beat her.
I find her to be one of the best characters for new players not because she's beginner friendly (because she isn't), but because she gives you access to the shop so you can learn items easier, and her low starting HP forces you to actually learn patterns if you want to get anywhere with her.
I'm well aware she's not made to be played by a new player, and maybe this experience is unique to me, but either way, I am still having an absolute blast playing as her.
Shoot keeper is for sure the most op character I would say. I played a lot of Eden after making this video and the shopkeep is both the most fun and strongest.
Glad you are having fun keep it up and see if you can 100% the game!
In my experience (only played 6ish hours) I’ve had the most successful with Gunner and Hazel. Oddly enough I got my first win on Hazel. However I stopped using Saffron on due to how much easier she is and that I wanted to try other characters. My biggest issues are Selicy and Shiso since I have a hard time using their weapons. However I know if I give everyone more time I’ll get better. Good video and thanks for the information.
Thanks for watching 100% that makes you a winner in my book well that plus you actually beating the game
Hazel I find to be one of that harder characters although Minnie gun is amazing and getting the SD turret is just insane on her. On paper I feel like she is good I just think Hexawan is bad and I always try to use to much Hexawan when I take her because it feels thematic.
For Violette, I realised that if you give yourself hundreds upon hundreds of fragile and then cast Leech on an enemy, you can heal hundreds of your HP. If you spend enough time, you could get from 2 to full HP in 1 battle
I watched this video, then beat the game for the first time on my 2nd/3rd attempt with Selicy the next day. Thank you.
Shiso execute was the first time I ever beat the shopkeep, had a bunch of money, pinned her down and just unloaded the gun into her, works... surprisingly well, Though the only reason I started the fight was due to having Reva as a back-up incase she did kill me. Hardest issue with Execute is that delay to firing, but on enemies that stand still a lot that is a rather effective way to take them out, which is where the traps he starts with are rather nice as a root option (If rather unreliable at times)
Still don't consider myself good at the game in the slightest, usually end up with decks spamming wide areas instead of accurate hits.
Shiso is no doubt powerful but you do take lotsa damage no doubt. There are a lot of attacks that can start after you start your attack and still hit you before you can dodge. also reva reflect just insta kills you haha. Still its a fun way to play
I just managed to beat the game my first time this weekend. I used Reva, and lucked out. I had like +9 mana regen, so I could just hold R for immortality. I actually beat Terrable on my first attempt.
Good on you! Terrable with Reva was also my first win haha. Keep kicking butt!
@@purplatypus7405Ahhh, I was playing and nearly won again with default Saffron. I picked up the ruby and honed, as well as the one that makes your weapon shoot homing missiles. I was doing obscene amounts of damage with the machine gun alone. Eventually lost to Terrable after shaving her down to 1200 hp. Also, I learned that Violette gets insane in the later rounds and uses both of her field attacks at the same time. Hazel is hilariously easy when you can just mow down her constructs. I didn't win, but that's not a run I'm going to forget.
@@browncow5210 Awesome run! Violette and Terra are some of the hardest late game bosses IMO. but then again Reva and Selicy are pretty buff also haha
@@purplatypus7405 I have a question. Do we just stop leveling at 44, or is that a bug?
@@browncow5210 From what I understand as of right now level 44 is the cap.
Selicy is definitely my main. I like her load out, but her alt load is my go-to because how aggressive I can play. Throwing frost out like it's nothing is so much fun, slap on a bunch of jams with the artifact that turns them into frost bolts and the one that heals you everytime you do frost damage, your near unkillable.
for sure not my style but there is a reason selicy invade is a speed runners choice!
@@purplatypus7405 This game is honestly amazing. I've been playing since the launch (one of the few games I've bought for multiple consoles.) And it's still a blast. All the characters are so unique a varied that they can suit many peoples different play styles. Violette was a hard one for me to wrap my head around, still not my style but I appreciate and like the complexity of her kit.
First non saffron win for me is shopkeeper lmao
Saffron is awesome! but shopkeeper is bae
money stacking on shiso is so nuts, i feel like i cheesed most of the bosses, and just got to the last stage for the first time. i did die to phase 2 tho so idk lol
Money on shiso is buff just be careful as lynchpin takes time to get good and can make you take a lot of damage early on
doubletime fragile has so much use with dagger builds
its nice but kuni dont need the help honestly haha. I still prefer shiso for kuni overall
I got the game on switch recently and I already have all the characters and as soon as I got a decent run with shiso I was hooked, I already didn't go to shops often so shiso was great like I've already killed shopkeep and gotten all endings by just doing nothing but killing every enemy with lynchpin. I get your argument but I think it's more of a decision between whether you prefer lynchpin to be a way to generate resources better than normal or just upgrading it, it's mainly about if you want to use lynchpin to build your deck with lynchpin or if you want to build your deck around lynchpin. Either way cool video smoke grass skate fast eat bass
Damn you are good. Most people talk about how ahrd the game is but you come in like a boss having slayed it haha. Good work and thanks for watching
To be honest I'm not too good, outside of lynchpin shiso I haven't beaten the game any way outside of pacifist shopkeeper. I usually think I'm not too good at vidya games so hearing an *EPIC PRO GAMER* was encouraging, good day to you.
@@ianmando589 sounds like you are better than me haha. Thanks again for watching keep going for those other wins you got this!
something cool with Violette is you can use freeze/slow time to use all your mana on her primary weapon. then you can step forward for example and fire off like 7 of her shots
you can also stagger them in a confusing way to mix in other effects while time is slowed
My first win was with Shiso and it was really fun to do 600 damage every hit
Execute on shiso is OP. I beat it first try with that load out. All you do is kill all enemy’s with his weapon to get money, never spend money, and get phalanx spells for defense. Toward the end of the game I had around $1700+ and was dealing massive gun damage just spamming it at the bosses and gate while keeping shield up for easy wins.
I think late game it is indeed OP the issue is there is a large part of the early game you are pretty weak and take a lot of damage since things die slow to your gun. However I agree late game is very OP but is still a weak sera cannon
Purplatypus good point about Sera cannon and I should’ve used all that money to buy upgrades and artifacts lol
Honestly, as a newb myself, I gotta say: Lynchpin IS broken. Glass Flute and Magnifying glass turn your weapon into a single use Sera Cannon, which if you DO fall for the "trap", means a LOT of damage. Also, it's the easiest build to turn into a Sera Cannon build you mentioned, as you said, as it is REALLY good at generating that critical mass of money in the first place to break Serra Cannon. In my case, I did beat Eden with over 1k money, meaning i could just delete mobs with 1 shot of Lynchpin and could just delete Serif with continuous fire.
You are not wrong with how powerful lynchpin is but when I say noob I more mean people who have not win get. Lynchpin is very weak for the first 2-3 bosses a lot of time and for new players who struggle adding extra difficulty to that part of the game makes it s bit of a trap imo. However if you can regularly win or get to Kate game no doubt it's a ezpz win
@@purplatypus7405 I've just finished a couple of games with Shiso and i really don't get why its a trap.
If you go for netural/pacifist, you can easily ping yourself 4 times at the shop before the first boss, at which point you probably deal about 100-150 damage with it. All you have to do is root the boss, throw an orbital beam and a couple of shots and youre good.
And in the late game you easily deal about 1k damage with it. And then, it synergizes well with any fragile/time slow or stop effects youve found even if you dont get smth like Sera Cannon. I honestly think its way easier to finish the game by hoarding money than by spending it.
@@1llum1nate it is a trap for new players specifically is all. not for anyone with decent experience. The root it very brutal and bosses once you start using hell passes especially are very very fast and require careful timing and can hit like a truck
Its very powerful and can easily win the run but for a new inexperienced player they can just be ded
I am still bad in general. I will have to check out chrono saffron again because at first I just liked having a consistent chip damage effect.
It can feel weird the first few times you play as non default saffron but dont worry you can adjust!
@@purplatypus7405 I feel like my first impression was pretty bad with this kit. I got no mana up and pretty low mana regen, so the wrist watch was too expensive for me to use well.
@@radiofrequency5801 once you get the hang of it it really starts to click. Time slow is one of the most powerful effects in the game so having it for 1 mana whenever you want is nutz
Sweet guide :). I disagree on Violet personally. She was the first character I beat the game with. She definitely *isn't* the easiest character to win with and she is really overwhelming the first couple runs, but eventually, you don't really have to think about your weapon attack all that much - you can grab multiple buffs on every attack and you know what you need when you press the button.
The upside for her is *really* high too, having easily accessible mana + trinity + Shield is insane. She has built in frost synergy with fragile (given how good frostbite is). She has built in trinity synergy, and because of how good shield and mana is, you can kind of spec into *anything* and still be very effective. No other character has the QOL she does once you've done a couple runs with her ability. I also think her starting kit is really exceptional for pretty much any build. Corset is *very* strong with her kit. Frostbite is *very* strong, generically, with her kit. Mana steal is *very* *very* strong with easy trinity. The 200 damage hit is the *worst* ability and is hard to use, but is still rather useful once you're used to it, and you can usually remove it once your build starts to come together.
Definitely rough the first few times though and her starting with 900 health isn't all that great either xD. But given how hard the game is, I think the learning curve on her tapers off really quickly, as the second you have her ability down, she is easier than most characters to do well with (IMO at least).
I both agree and disagree haha. I really do think she is powerful no doubt! But personally I've just struggled with her since she is just a bit more complex than say saffron. But you are correct she is op no doubt
@@purplatypus7405 Saffron is definitely the easiest character to use, especially chrono xD...
@@stefannelson5785 Glad you agree haha. She feels op as heckn
on violette, one of the golden artifacts is phased shields, basically, if you get hit once, you get invincibility for 1 second, however it applies 1 fragile on you, so basically getting hit hurt more but you wont get wombo comboed to death. combine with phased shields, all the fragile will stick to you and any subsequent hit won't matter, allowing you to freely gain spell power.
also, turrets on enemy tiles make it easy.
shiso's starting spells are pretty easy to use if you know the right thing to do. first claw trap, place your marker over one of the two claw traps, activate align, enemy is now stuck in claw trap for 4 seconds, orbital beam, step slash, or lynchpin for the kill.
shield throw isn't a trap, just need to spec into root in hearth like wreath. i usually remove diagonal beam because it kills hostages.
Thanks for the comment all good points. I think shield throw is a trap for new players myself. It's powerful no doubt but can cause death for sure as well haha.
Shield throw can be a "trap", but not really also. Most bosses have a second phase, where all their attacks become more difficult to dodge, and they tend to hit a lot more, a lot quicker. Shield throw, can bypass all of this nonsense. First, either save selicy or apply fragile to an enemy, then gain 0.75 of enemy health as shield, then just one shot the enemy for a beautiful perfect after you root them.
@@geraldloo1639 I think that is a good strat but I don't think that falls into the new player friendly category I was focused on haha. Still thanks for the ideas!
Nice guide. It never occurred to me to synergize a movement spell/attack with zenith/ which ever the spell that branches from the corners. Will definitely start trying that. I have yet beat the game but I partially blame it on me playing it on the switch. When the game gets busy the game hiccups and my timings get thrown off. There have been many a shopkeeper attempt and I'm down to the last 1000 hp when she throws out the crystal attack and I lag SMH. I learned to abandon the switch version for any serious attempts and will pick it up pc when it goes on sale.
Dont worry you will get that first win! Let me know when you do
Lol,i just cheesed the shopkeeper with shiso
With Shiso you can just focus Phalanx and stack shields, maybe prioritize chest/hazard for money if you want. After 2nd boss you can just nuke them from then on with your weapon. By the 2-3 last stages you one hit everything besides bosses and and at the last boss you hit 800+ every shot. Remember you only lose 1.5 damage for each shot, at some point that doesn't matter anymore.
The noob trap is trying to get as much money or trying play around the weapon (too much) maximizing the damage or whatever and not figuring out that the weapon will be OP if you give it some time. So get just get a bunch of shield and a couple of spells you like (I prefer Aubis to poison everything) and eventually you won't need those at all because you're one shotting everything.
Shiso is super powerful but I think his extra weak early game makes him a bit weaker than what most think. All characters can be super op broken by the end game if you get the right stuff but characters that are weak in the early game I think stand out as traps for new players
Havent watched, but I honestly think the best character for newbies are default saffron.
Theyre so good at teaching the player about things. They only teach us to move, cast, and use weapon, so the new players doesnt know what spells there are and how to synergize them. So default saffron which has no gimmick at all and can use whatever spell is thrown at her is good to teach new players what spells there is in the game and get used to the controls
yes! also reva since you have a ton more HP via shields
really nice vid; subscribed.
Thanks so much for watching friend
This was a really helpful guide thank you for making this!!! 😎👊
No sweat thanks for watching!
I beat the game on my 6th run (or so), I ended up doing a neutral ending against the wall (It was my first attempt against him). I had a busted shield / deck management build with my Reva, I could litteraly tank the damages and just throw everything I had (I still have no clue at all about the pattern of the wall honestly).
I didn't even notice I won (I figured out with this video, because I unlocked the second set of skills) since the game kills you in this ending anyway. Honestly, I am still way too bad at the game to reproduce this with another char, even with a chrono build, I juste had insane synergies.
Shield runs are much much easier, because the game becomes much more forgiving. I was taking at least 200 dmg per fight, but np it was on my shield. You only lack dps, but this is perfect for a beginner, because it gives you more Time to learn the patterns.
Yeah no doubt in the lower hell passes I think shield is really good. Once you get higher though I think damage is suuuuper important and shields lose a lot of usefulness besides maybe 1 or 2 great spells
Good job on your kick ass win!
@@purplatypus7405 I am still far from the level of the other hell, I guess I haven't seen a fraction of what the game has to offer ^^
I would also add that shield have the drawback of creating the bad habit of taking hits that should be avoidable. And I definitely see why it should not be that great at higher level.
In my case, I had a jam deck build with "consumate" passives and stuff like that, so I still had a decent dps. I just tried another Shield run, it is true that focusing more on shield gives very lackluster damages, I got wrecked by the wall ^^
I think I might stick to your chanel. The game is awesome, has a lot of depth to it, and fun deckbuilding aspect. My beginner point of view agrees with most of your suggestions too. The only thing I am afraid of is the time I am going to spend into this ^^
@@Shinigami435 Thanks for the support! Dont forget this video is pretty old so a lot of my views have probably changed. I do recommend me newer runs for up to date info! todays run was actually a slaughter where Its just 2 spells ezpz win haha
A bit of a cheesy way to play with Shiso, it's to do everything you can to get either Cassidy's Scarf or a time slow/stop spell, and also hoard a lot of money. Once you have that, you can easily spam his weapon during those 5 seconds of time stop and do an insane amount of damage in just an instant.
My first win was a "False" genocide Reva run. Just had enough shield to facetank everyting.
Good job!
They've since replaced Mine in Terra's starting kit with the slightly less situational Poison Tails. Not really enough to move the needle, though.
Seriously, the only place Mine is really useful is against Terra herself and you can't do that if you're playing as her.
Fate Shield is three tiles... but centered on you, so you can use it as two tiles if you pay enough attention. Furthermore, it's meant to be used similarly to Zenith where Snowpiercer lets you skip most of the board and potentially KEEP the 200 shield. Seriously, with only two tiles before it's off the board...
Diagonal Beam is actually her main means of saving the hostages with an explosive crystal behind him. Distress calls in general have her second only to Hazel because of this and her shield focus (Hazel can save explosive crystal hostages by hitting them with her wrench because they're considered structures and the others by putting structures between them and the gun turrets).
yeah i dont disagree with anything I dont think. Kepe in mind this video is over a year old and I did probably hundreds after this so my views probably changed a lot haha
Ironically enough I won my first run with Violeta
the very first win i had only 8 hours into the game was with manafire gunner, i just took every single target spell and all i did was root the boss and spam my abilities while shooting. You could do like 1000 damage when you empty your entire deck in 10 seconds on the boss
No doubt it can work but overall Id say just having passive mana regen instead of needing to use your weapon is idea. Glad you kicked that runs ass though!
Yoooo this video is awesome keep up the awesome work 👍
Thanks! This comment is awesome keep up the awesome work!
So I just recently started playing this game, and I gotta say, I have much less trouble using Terra than Reva. Reva I can't get past the second boss fight, while Terra easily reaches the 4th boss without a revive, that being said I kinda caught really quickly that you gotta set up for her a lot, but in return you can get away with some nasty damage output and some cheese that works even against bosses.
*laughs in unlocked violette first and has only played her since for dozens of games...*
*cries in can’t hear Neverending Song*
I would have to argue with Terra. I honestly found her one of the easiest character to play. She requires honestly the least amount of thought out of all the characters I have ran. Delete mine then upgrade excavate. Literally that is the deck right there and she just steam rolls. It is tricky at first but Terra essentially removes aiming since your end goal is to get your opponent stuck and with the upgrades to excavate and items to boost mana it becomes really easy to just spam breaking tiles. Terra was my go to character for the dont add a card into my deck. Terra's fault is one thing. She relies on artifacts and good ones. When it comes to a lot of the characters. I have found myself disliking only a few of them because of having what I consider a bad kit or bad weapon. However this is just my opinion and I found your video to be very interesting to watch.
I have to argue the opposite haha. That might be a deck once you remove mine but it's a very very weak one. The real issue with Terra I'd she gets worse the more enemies you fight as you can't break tiles with enemies on them plus since you need to break tiles it means you need to move around to each tile frequently to keep them broken greatly reducing your freedom to dodge attacks unless you let your damage go to shizz. Not to mention the final bosses seem designed to ruin this strat with each one changing the rules with the wall making half the tiles unbreakable, serif causing you to change sides on the field and terrable invading your side .
I'm not saying it's impossible or anything but there are far easier ways to win with most characters I would argue haha.
Thanks for watching and the input
I completly dissagree with the shiso thing.
Shiso is the first character i won with. By the end of the game i had over 2k money and during the final neutral fight i didnt even move at all, i just spammed the shoot button and the boss die. The hard part is early game. Just need survivability artifacts. The gun also self scales with the money making late game kinda free. Also most enemies stay still for several seconds making them an easy target
I just cheesed the shopkeeper with shiso,1000 money and 10 defence on hit🤣
One shot is all it takes!
Interesting. I found Saffron HORRIBLE as a new player. Her lack of any innate synergies made her so hard to play. And step slash is a hard begginer spell. Its anchor AND moves you, I found Hazel easy to pick up, but your right she is a one trick pony.
As for Shisos bomb thing, I use it to weaken enemies so that the gun can take them out. For instance if an enemy has 120 HP, I can hit them for 80,
I think her not having innate synergies is a positive as a new player as you are more free and open to learn plus all her spells are quite powerful imo but I also totally understand what you are saying.
Yeah shiso is pretty powerful imo just felt like people think the weapon means you can't spend money which is a trap imo
As a new player I didn't and she almost made me turn away from the game completly. When your a begginer your flying blind, and most of her starter spells are hard to hit with, intentionally have no synergy with each other, and you have no idea how they work.
Your left with no direction with her as a begginer. Which is the worst as a begginer.
Being more flexible with build is what you want to do when your proficient with the game.
Thats my opinion anyway
@@davidspektorov8262 agree to disagree friend haha. Your experience is your experience which was just different from mine. Hope you still found some value in the video though!
@@purplatypus7405 I did with the delay ice trick. I assumed I couldn't cast spells when doing Iceslashinyas attack. Thats so dope. In terms of design shes my fave.
@@davidspektorov8262 agreed she is the most fun to play for me currently no doubt!
Wait, people put Hazels turrets in the back? The first time I unlocked her, I noticed right from the start that the best position for her Turret is generally in the Front Row.
Some bosses can push your turrets to the back row which can easily get you killed
I beat the game for the first time today with Reva.
Shiso is pretty straight forward ez win tbh.
Totally agree with Kuni shisho however even normal is pretty easy at this point but for sure not new player friendly imo
First 3 times i beat the game was with Terra, excavate is better than what you think too
Then you are better than me! I still think she is the worst haha but glad to see some people dig it a lot
@@purplatypus7405 nah, i think what really matters is knowing very well the character you are going to main. Plus she synergies very well with earth/flow, so that's a plus!
@@MrYami0 You are correct. I love that there is a character for every playstyle. Even though Terra is not good in my hands some people like you they click with which is dope.
Thanks for watching friend!
@@purplatypus7405 agree. And keep the content up! Thanks for the vids
@@MrYami0 Dont worry there are no plans to stop anytime soon! Thanks for the comments
Whats the intro song called?
I got to learn the game using hazel oddly enough, but I still currently love playing Violette (hella interesting kit)
The song is called Unity by The Fat Rat its a classic no doubt
Violette is one of the more fun characters imo for sure
Non-saffron win was Execute Shiso on a pacifist run. Granted I had Sera Cannon double cast with an echo but still
Good work! Lots of people say execute shiso is op I will revisit again. Sara cannon double cast echo is broken as heck!
@@purplatypus7405 Another thing that is fun is the more loadouts mod with a 20XX shiso that is essentially fox from Melee. Maybe a follow up on this video or some good old mod reviews.
Execute Shiso is all I played for about a week and got all of my first hell passes with him, makes everything trivial
@@starlightsilverwing9131 mod reviews sounds like a great way for me to extend my time with the game good idea!
My first win was with gunner. Shuffle builds are broken with him
How do you unlock chrono
I never lose with shiso. Serra cannons and 3000 weapon attacks
Personally, I don't think reva is that easy. I'd put her around Hazel or Shiso, since while some characters can deal ignorant damage (Saff, Gunner, Selicy) Reva can only do damage by risking shield or by risking health. Reflector window isn't THAT tight, but it'll still be hard for newbies. Definitely not easier than Selicy
I also think Hazel is easier, but then I just turtle like hell when I play her :P
Selicy is the only character I’m able to win with
This don't worry you will win with other character for sure. If you can win with selicy you can for sure win as shopkeeper or saffron imo
@@purplatypus7405 I still need to beat shopkeep. Selicy just fits my playstyle
@@thestickopia4619 Shopkeep is hard as balls so no rush! There is a cheese tactic if you want to do it that way though.
Selicy is dope as hell no doubt. she can make you take some more damage than needed but no doubt had great early game damage
@@purplatypus7405 killed shopkeep as selicy. The farthest I’ve gotten on a murder route was the last boss before eden which was terra also done as selicy
Shiso was the first one I beat the game with by just stacking up my money
Is 10 hours still considered a beginner?
Because I beat pacifist on shield reva by just getting high mana regen and spamming reflect on basically every boss including terrable
10 hours is beginner ish but no doubt different players different skill sets. some people play 50 hours and cant win and some can win in their first 2
@@purplatypus7405 Hmm, ok
I didn't have much skill in such games before so it probably just came from the realization that mana upgrades + reflector spam is very powerful since reflector doesn't have a big cooldown
Thanks for the answer
@@neikrodent if you can survive with reva while only getting mana regen then yeah the payoff is an easy instant win since you are invincible it can be hard to actually deal damage with her in the early game but overall yeah id say thats a if you want to win do this kinda strat haha
lmao terra break doublelift was the first one i won with after selicy snow, she was the easiest for me
pk fire is to more easily detonate your bomb
yeah that makes sense. Still kinda weird when the weapon can do the same thing and generate mana
@@purplatypus7405 yeah but with how specific the bomb can be on placement its best to use fire to detonate it fast
how in the hell is gunner better than reva, shiso, and selicy? that's just absolutely ridiculous honestly, especially for a new player.
This video is approaching a year old so the info is very dated. Gunner sucks hardcore and is one of the weakest characters although he did get a big buff in patch 1.5 so i dont think he is as bad as Break Terra or Teardown Hazel
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I know this video is like a month old but I just picked up the game a bit under a week ago and I agree and disagree with some points. For some reason I can't seem to lose on violet yet. I think pressure on using her attack properly was over valued. I just use the shield if I need to and attack in early floors otherwise mostly ignoring it. I wouldn't call lynchpin a noob trap but definately harder to utilize to full effectiveness. Some bosses have openings to use it on *notably terra who is a godam cuck*. It's strength comes from getting you to bosses healthy so you can focus your deck on stuff that isn't necessarily great for casual battles. Using selicy's basic attack to full effectiveness is too big brain for me to comment on, only played her once. I think the issue new players also make on hazel is over committing to structures and not learning when to just leave a tower to it's fate. Your reva analysis was pretty accurate. I personally disagree with the shield throw part and I would like to add 2 other comments on reva. Diag beam is probably something I remove instant I don't need it's damage and that self damage such as corset can be reflected so that's something to keep in mind. I'd like to add that default saffron was really well designed as a mini tutorial, thunder teaches about non projectile attacks. Kinetic wave and frostbolt teach synergies and the dash teaches you about movement abilities and temporary positioning. Chrono is amazing but I feel like wristwatch can teach too much of an over-reliance. Using it too much can mess up the rhythm of some attacks, throw away too much mana and give you a sense of safety you don't have. Used right tho godam is wristwatch amazing.
Thanks for watching! Lots of points here I agree with it's been awhile since I've made this list.
I'm pretty bad at this game, 6-7 is the farthest stage I've been in so far and that's with Terra. I had plenty of root spells and kept on breaking the enemy's tiles and that worked til I faced Gunner. Probably the character second to Selicy that I find the hardest to beat. I can't get past 3-7 with any other character, however, this is mostly because my knowledge of the game is lacking.
No sweat practice will get you there! Once you get the shopkeeper you'll get tons of wins haha
I find Tera wins most consistently with anima/ice flow builds. Just pump out fire and forget fire field spells while building flow with ice and hearth spells. Her weapon has great synergy with fire spells with the whole locking them into your fire fields, and getting bonus mana regen to keep adding more fire. I'd say break tera is actually stronger than pyro tera at even just building fire decks for that reason of limiting enemy movement while burning them up.
@@Nomans_Nomen I disagree with Break terra being any good at all haha. Pyro ive had more luck with though. Breaking tiles and making people stand on fire is just typically worse than ring of fire plus brushfire imo
@@purplatypus7405 I guess it just depends on how you determine value. Sure, setting up broken tiles on your opponents field takes away from mana that could be used on damage, but you get a guaranteed window of success where you can combo high damage spells into their restricted space, while getting basically infinite scaling mana regen for that combo. It's a slower pace, but a safe and steady one, and I have obliterated bosses just doing that a couple of times while clearing consistently with her. The other key thing is that only takes a line straight across a bosses field to disrupt their attacks or lock them in place for you to spam on them, so typically no more than 4 broken tiles are needed for a setup.
@@Nomans_Nomen I have no doubt you got mad skillz with her for sure. Im just saying id rather be doing other things with my mana than breaking tiles as I personally find it a negetive as it causes enemies and some attacks to behave in different ways and can lead to taking more damage at least for me