Gilmore Girls - Rory, the O.G. Annoying Millennial
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When Gilmore Girls first aired, Rory Gilmore (Alexis Bledel) was the rare teenage girl character who always had her nose in a book and was super close with her mom, Lorelai (Lauren Graham). It’s safe to say that most who watched the original series imagined that after Rory’s graduation from Yale, her arc would only continue its upward trajectory. So it came as a surprise when, in 2016’s Gilmore Girls revival A Year In the Life, the young Ms. Gilmore hadn’t exactly become a raging success; instead, she was a portrait of a faltering millennial. But if you look closer, the original series holds clues as to what went wrong for Rory. Here’s our Take on what Rory’s failures teach us about the importance of forging your own path and taking responsibility for your mistakes early on.
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I think Rory's downfall is pretty realistic. She grew up being adored and treated like a saint by everyone, so when she went to college and started living in the "real world" she realised she just wasn't that special and crackled. Tbh I think that if her relashionship with Jess had worked out things would be different, since he was one of the few people who called out Rory on her bs.
I agree. I guess I'm in the minority because I found her more likable when she started to struggle.
💯💯💯
Likewise. Rory begins to crack when Logan's dad tells her that he doesn't think that she has the potential to be a successful journalist, sparking off her rebellion and dropping out of Yale, her dream school. And he's proven right later on, since Rory does completely unprofessional things, such as fall asleep when interviewing a source, and fail to prepare at a job interview.
Completely agree about the first part. This is why the reunion mostly worked for me. Re: relationships, she needed to learn to be on her own, and never did. That's why I'm Team Rory Gets Therapy instead of any guy.
You put it perfectly into words
I hate how much Gilmore Girls tries to portray Lorelei and Rory as poor, just because you didn’t live in excess, doesn’t make you underprivileged.
EXACTLY!!
To me they did live in excess. All the food they ordered omg 😂 how did they pay that
They were never portrayed as poor just less privileged than lorelei's upbringing
I think it’s meant to be more when Rory was a baby... when the show starts they are much more settled but it’s implied they actually hit several markers of poverty before then
Yes, the safety net of Lorelai's parents was always looming.
Rory really was the daughter that Emily and Richard wanted. Reliant on them, basically full of herself, but smart enough to go to the best schools like they did. I guess in someway Lorelei saw that stuff as bad and turned away, that’s why every time she runs into an issue with her mom she runs right to her grandparents because they fill up her ego in someway
So true! Lorelai knew what was best for her! Her parents didn’t! She knew staying at home with baby Rory and getting spoiled with gifts wouldn’t help her mature as a woman and as a mom! She needed to leave get herself a job to provide for her and Rory! Yes, she put big expectations on Rory and and acted as if Rory was the most innocent child ever and treated her more like a best friend because she didn’t want a her-and-Emily type of relationship-she didn’t want Rory to end up like her which hasn’t turned out bad at all but she wanted Rory to have a great academic foundation in life! She called her out when she was in the wrong! She provided for Rory as much as she could by herself but even then, I love how she wasn’t too full of pride to ask her parents for money for Chilton! Her humility, honesty and hardworking spirit makes her my favourite character!
Nope. She didn't gain success in a profession, didn't marry well and got knocked up.
@@naturalbby1722 Loreli indulged her child with compliments all the time and failed to firmly correct her when she was wrong.
Rory use and discard men just like her mother does ends up pregnant alone in the end I guess that's why Jess is back in the end like his uncle luke
rory turning into in karen🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂🥲
I think class was a HUGE part of Rory's downfall. Let's not forget, she turned down a permanent, full time writing job with a salary and a 401K at a less well known, less prestigious newspaper for a chance at a 6 month, unpaid internship with arguably one of the most famous newspapers in the world. Any person who needs a job to pay rent and bills knows that's a pretty easy decision to make, but Rory turns up her nose at it because she has no concept of money due to constantly being bailed out by Emily and Richard.
Agree. I feel that what really happened was she got confused bc she had 2 distinctively different lives/POVs thrown at her at the same time at a formative stage in her life and she couldn’t separate and analyse them so she made choices from a very confused sense of self.
In the very end, Logan’s privilege enhanced that side of her as well. She was making choices that a Season 1 or 2 Rory would never make bc even if she felt defeated or found some difficulties, S1&2 Rory would always work harder. She didn’t back down and just give up like Rory giving up after Mitchum told her she didn’t have it. S1&2 Rory would NEVER react that way.
She reminds me of the book Andy from the Devil Wears Prada. In the book, Andy constantly acts like she's too good to be there and that everything asked of her is too much. Rory doesn't see the value of being a part of something small and seeing how it will have a huge impact on her life. Take my best friend. She didn't come from a rich family but wanted to be an artist. She found a way to go to school without debt, has worked shitty gig work jobs to make ends meet, and even subs at the school I work at from time to time.All while running an LLC because she knows this will land her eventually where she wants to be. Compare that to my sister inlaw who is like Rory. She's never had a real job and refuses to grow in any meaningful way.
Agree, what will she do when Emily passes away?
Honestly, Paris wasn't socially intelligent but she was everything Harvard would want and worked to get there, she should've gotten in.
I thought it was so bizarre that Paris didn’t get into Harvard and Rory did considering Paris did better than her in school AND had generations of her family go there before her.
She blew the interview. Remember the recording? She was rude. But yale worked out well and later she did go to Harvard. Because while Rory thought well done with college I'm gonna be a superstar now because I'm a Gilmore and bc everyone likes me, Paris went to medical school and law school finished Harvard and yale and achieved a lot. Rory didn't even grow up or learn to adapt to journalism of the 21st century
@@emilycain2137 Paris screwed up her interview remember? She screamed at the person giving the Interview.
Trueeee
While you're all correct about Paris screwing up her interview, in the real world all she needed was for daddy to write a check and that big envelope would have been on it's way. Especially if they have a Harvard legacy.
I wouldn’t call the Gilmores “upper middle class.” They’re definitely established old money.
Upper middle class is having dentist parents who aren't stars in that field, I'd say.
I think they meant Lorelai, but yeah, Emily and Richard were ooooooold money, they came in the mayflower 😅🙄
Emily and Richard are 100% old money, they’ve been wealthy their entire lives. I think Lorelai could be working to upper middle class. By today’s standards she would be upper but back then probably only working middle class. The money issues came and went whenever the story called for it, but at the same time she could afford to eat out everyday...
Very definitely so. Upper class is often not acknowledged in popular culture, but they exist. What would middle class even mean if there weren't an upper class?
@@MarieJes23 What does old money mean?
I love when Logan checks Rory on her privilege. Logan knew who he was and wasn’t about to have rory talk shit
yeah but he was still pretty toxic
@@kirtu9035 I felt sorry for him he had an sob for a dad and a grand dad and his mother was a stuck up cold digger his sister was the only decent one.
@Kirtu you’re right but the difference is that Logan has been out in the real world and knew the real world can be cruel. Rory was always sheltered and coddled by everyone growing up, from her mom to her grandparents to the rest of Stars Hallow. Once she enters the real world and takes criticism she doesn’t respond to it well. Everyone’s gonna take some shots. It’s all about how you respond. Rory thinks her life is a straight line but learns the hard way how things don’t always go your way.
@@kirtu9035 He was as toxic as Rory (or less) which actually made him a good match for Rory, if only she knew herself the way Logan knew himself.
@@DesiCat789 true though
It's so interesting. It's like GGs is showing two types of motherhood to avoid. Emily with her constant criticism, and Lorelai with her constant praise. They're opposites in terms of their emotional color, but ultimately they're both setting rigid expectations of the child. Lorelai at least has the temperament to break away from the overbearing home life and forge her own path. But the near constant praise turned the easygoing and naturally gifted Rory into somewhat of a narcissist, without skills to cope with adversity.
this is a good take. i personally want a future series about rory's kid because i'm dying to know how that turns out. ahhhh
I love both Emily and Lorelai but both of them should of never been mothers because they seem to be beyond that so much
Insightful
Wow what a beautifully written comment.
Agreed,I both thought the more I watch them the more I remember how my mom acted near me,& it was just mind blowing knowing this show had two parents of two types of narcissism.
If there was another GG tv show with,Rory’s child I hope she treated her kid to be independent,if not at least we saw Jess & Lane breaking the cycle of their families problems,but I mean they at least matured! If you be independent & not mature then that’s just as bad!
The thing I don't like about the pregnancy with Rory is that it feeds into the idea that you grow up once you become a parent. That's not true, and is a dangerous way of thinking.
or that having a baby ends your life
I disagree, I thought that was perfect for her character - Rory was raised by a young, immature mother who acted more like a teenager than an adult, got pregnant by accident, and parentified her. That was all rory knew, and then she went on to continue the cycle, becoming the same hot mess her mother was (albeit later in life) and also ending up with an accidental pregnancy. I didn’t feel it promoted being a parent at all, quite the opposite. But I thought it was very realistic for rory’s character specifically to end up that way.
I had the exact same thought. I also wish there were more legitimately child free representation in media because parenthood isn't for everyone nor is it some inevitability that everyone has to face. I understand that it takes the show full circle, but I still wish they had gone in a different direction.
I think for a pregnancy in the plot for Rory's character makes more sense than the terrible turnout that was written for Lane, a very loveable character through the whole series and she end up pregnant with twins after having sex the first time on her honeymoon and both her and Zack absolutely did not want kids, she even tells Rory this baby sucks when she finds out lol
I mean she's been sexually active for like 5 years by the time the show ended I'm surprised she wasn't pregnant before this. And just Bc she's pregnant now doesn't mean she's keeping it.
The best development was Jess. His story from 'I hate everything' rebel to a mature adult with an actual job is immaculate.
He still forced himself on Rory in Kyle's bedroom and no one seems to have a problem with that.
@@roter13 he changed that as well.
Beautiful.
And the job being a normal not over the top ludicrous plot line... 👌🏽
This is probably the only time I’ll ever be ok with this but she should get with her stepbrother..... 🤣🥲
There’s nothing wrong with being rich and privileged, when it becomes wrong is the lack of gratitude, ignorance and self pitying entitlement
Uhm no. "Gratitude" and "awareness of privillege" do not change anything about inequality in a society. "Gratitude" is just a way for rich people to feel better about being rich and inevitably having better outcomes in life, it changes nothing for anyone who is not privilleged.
Individual rich people, of course, can change little about inequality in a society as a whole, but there are lots of things that are wrong with the fact that inequality and privillege on such a scale exist.
I mean, there is a lot wrong about being that rich.
What is being privileged anyways? A family who has worked hard for generations to provide for themselves isn't wrong and it isn't inequality. People make different choices depending of many factors so of course not everyone is rich but being rich is not something you should be ashamed of.
@@Stem667 I’m clearly talking about individual rich as I’m talking about individual emotions, and it’s honestly just a fact of life that there will be the upper classes and there will be the lower, as we’ve seen through countries that try to get rid of this hierarchy completely, society just doesn’t work without it, you need the people to work and the people to make the work sadly, and it’s personally up to you to decide where you place in that, so stop self pitying and blaming them, actually work to be in a position of power yourself so that you can make decisions that benefit society. If there was external circumstances such as disability or discrimination ect. Then you get a pass, but even so stop being so salty about how other people aren’t changing anything and change it yourself if you care so much.
@@croft4746 first of all, rich people’s emotions do not matter. They can feel grateful or entitled as they want to, it changes nothing for everyone else.
Secondly, there are huge differences in levels of inequality between countries. Unlike the rich people’s emotions, the level of inequality in a society matters for a lot of things: from life chances of people born into different families to things like housing affordability, life expectancy, crime levels etc (more equal countries do better)
Also, I was not suggesting getting rid of any hierarchy, and no one is self-pitying either, so stop making things up.
Logan was 100% on the "you're one of us" speech. She was judging and looking down on her friends, peers, and boyfriend yet while they were growing up and setting goals she was stuck on the judgment box and "I'm not one of you" trope. I loved that moment when Logan ripped the bandaid off and showed her the privilege she has.
This privilege you speak of is what the palladino’s disdain or they thought their audience secretly wanted to see Rory fail? Because most of the audience let’s face, it doesn’t have the privilege that Rory had . otherwise they wouldn’t have Rory fail towards the end . Sort of a writing slap in the face of people like the Gilmores. And a pat on the back or reinforcement for those who believe in a more socialistic environment?
@@songman1955 Your response was edited, but still makes no sense.
I mean.🙄 We don't have to feel sorry for the other _poor little_ privileged, upper-class A-holes she hung out with, do we? 😅 Lol
She has to feel different if she wants to achieve something. There is no success when people feel entirely like their average-performing friends. However it's true she should have kept that opinion to herself.
I think it’s possible that Rory being the more “mature one” in her household made Rory think that she was more put together and capable than she actually was.
THIS
That's a good perspective!
Yeah there was a video explaining this very well. Rory didn't get to be a teenager when she was supposed to be a teenager because her mother took up that role.
It’s called the “parentified child” in psychology
@@annaeverette8960 oooh do you know what the video is called?
I liked it how they didn't sugarcoat it and showed that people don't always end up successful by the age of 30
EXACTLY! I dont understand why so many people critic rory. Of course she makes a lot of mistakes, but so as everybody, especially as they grown up... Lorelai have her moments too. I like the ideia that lorelai went to a different path to what everybody expected for her and had a good life, as rory she did everything to have a life of sucess and didnt get it, but when she decided to do a different thing that was planned (write a personal book) it seemed it turned alright. I think that the big ideia of the show - at least that what I think of.
@@marinasedycias I like this idea too, honestly I thinj her failure is not only because she was a privileged milennia I think it's all about potential and how sometimes you cant meet the expectations.
Maybe it has to do with many people having watched the show while they were younger, themselves putting Rory on a pedestal and thinking of her as a role model. I remember watching Gilmore Girls when I was older, and while I really liked the show and the characters, I couldn't help but think that Rory was just too perfect and unrealistic. I'm glad they showed her imperfect side
That’s not the problem for me. Rory not being successful at 30 is perfectly acceptable and normal. It’s how she reacted and handled not being the superstar success she thought she should be by 30.
@@michalhanna4374 Well, it is absolutely normal to go through disillusionment and make questionable choices at some point of our lives, imo
My favourite character is Lane, she managed to do things by herself learning independency by taking a job, married the guy she loved, having two babies, following her dream in music and having to continue her family's business which during the whole show was a good way to make money.
OMG no ! Lane appears to be the first clue of what is coming for Rory. Poor Lane, she was and wanna be free, transgressive, an artist living for her art all across the country, the opposite of her mother's lifestyle... And she ended up no having sex before marriage, having twins after one intercourse, claiming that good sex is a pop culture lie, she will never leave Stars Hollow and she works with her mother to raise a family. I assume she's happy, of course, but she failed on her own way just like Rory did.
hell no they did lane dirty she deserved so much better
@@yurmom_ Definitely ! She should have ended up with Dave, not Zack...
@@oliviafortin9197 So true, they both wanted leave so bad and ended up in square one.
@@oliviafortin9197 I loved lanes ark until she got engaged to zack. She should’ve turned him down and started her own band, and then in the reboot we could see her working as a producer or smth
Rory may not be a likable character but this series can definitely happen in real life. Watching this made me reflect on myself and think of the person I don't want to be.
exactly. i related a lot to season one rory; shy, quiet, loving to read, striving for perfection at school... but as the seasons progressed, i got really scared that i was going to turn out like she did because i pretty much hear the same things she did (you're so smart, wow so talented, you will do amazing in life, you can do anything) from people around me. this show actually makes you reflect on your choices. i think the only reason im not failing like her is because im not an only child (lol) which kind of helps to usually reflect on what i say and do and how others feel, and rory is just nice out of manners, she is very immature
@@kirtu9035 I tried avoiding this show cause it makes me think of my hs self where I wasn’t the academic gifted person but someone who didn’t like school. As I have entered to uni things have gotten better & learned things thru. Ngl a lot of the stuff I do is by doing “life hacks” cause I don’t like wasting my time yk 😅
@@kirtu9035 I'm an only child. It doesn't mean you don't know how to reflect? 😂 tf 😭
@@alyanashephard1916 lmao i wrote this a yr ago bro idk what i said
I think the point is that Rory maybe you. You may not be the hero. Every now and again, take stock of yourself and get perspective.
Rory is the character that doesn’t think she is privileged because of her upbringing. Ever since her mom got in touch with her grandparents, she got comfortable and ran to them for everything. It’s not surprising that Rory turned out the way she did.. No one called her out on her mess most of the time and she got used to be praised by everyone in her life.
Also you have to take into account that Rory was not born into the most idyllic family context. As someone born in the same context as hers, no matter how love and material benefits you receive, you suffer a lot because of that, especially as a child.
Logan called her out on her privilege.
If only Lorelei didn't go to her parents to pay for Rory's private school. Rory would of became a whole different journalist.
@@dodgers02007 That’s a really good point. It’s like she shifted from wanting to be a great journalist who really got into the trenches to wanting to just be seen as a successful, special Yale educated journalist. It’s hard to believe that she couldn’t even get a job at a less-prestigious-than NYT paper with her degree. It’s probably her attitude that kept her from being able to get a more than decent reporting job.
@@keckm88 and to add her special Yale educated Gilmore ego was her biggest fault. If she didn't spend her time crying over boys and actually wrote in college; she would've known how to become a successful journalist.
Rory lost me immediately when she kept dragging Dean along despite liking Jess
Dean didn't deserve her. He broke up with a 15-year-old girl because he was emotionally manipulative and possessive. Rory wasn't sure if she loved him and wasn't ready to say it. That's what emotionally manipulative men do, try to manipulate the emotions of other people.
@@sdarling6518 I really hate this opinion and here is why-- you label Rory as a child, and Dean-- who is the exact same age as Rory a "man", what's the difference? They were both kids figuring shit out, this id the one case I call it a draw between the two but Rory cheated on Dean and continued to be with him and also be mad at Jess for no reason. Rory treated Dean terribly, point blank.
@@sdarling6518 He was also a 15 year old kid. He was upset because he thought she didn't love him and he over reacted, you know, like kids do
Tbh I believe that was quite realistic. Rory tried her best to convince herself that she didn't have feelings for Jess, hence continued the relationship with Dean since she did love him, and he treated her well (contrary to popular belief, I dont think he treated her well since he was quite emotionally manipulative). The love triangle (sorta) between the three, is really common in high school so I personally believe it was understandable. Dean didn't deserve it but it happens
She lost me when she had the affair with him.
she was so stressed out about her college application and "not doing enough activities" when she already does a ton of volunteering for her town. why didn't she just put down those activities on her application? running a rummage sale with her mom, always playing in little plays for the holidays, helping save money to repair the bridge, etc etc. she did a lot of things yet it never occurred to her that those things count as volunteering work.
I didn’t realize that
u don't know that she didn't tho
I can't say I've ever watch Gilmore girls but I've seen it before it's a great show and I think I'm going to binge it I had no idea things were so bad for Rory she always seems so put together
I think one of the things that cause the Rory's downfall is herself entitlement and the fact that she could so easily run to her grandparents whenever she's in trouble or has a problem and doesn't know how to handle it she should have been more like her mom everything gets handed to her and her grandparents caused her to have a massive ego because of constantly telling her that she special who could be more qualified than you?
She's a hardworking intelligent smart girl but her entitlement or white millennial attitude has drastically ruined her life
Those volunteer activities are nothing though. Ivy League applicants volunteer in more meaningful ways then doing a rummage sale. I’ve known kids in high school who applied to ivy leagues and they would spend a summer volunteering in third world countries over the summer. Kids who have that drive to go to prestigious schools usually map out a plan freshman year and get it down.
As a mother myself I find Lorelai’s codependency on Rory is very toxic! She treats her like a bff instead of a daughter, dishes out all her adult problems to her, caves in just to be in her daughters good books. Lorelai is what a lot of mums and dads are doing atm being “friends” to their kids instead of being “parents”
Exactly, there should be a boundary between a parent & a child.
Well remember she had her daughter at 16 years old and sadly didn’t have a good relationship with her parents and she ran away. She really didn’t know how to be a mom. To me it seems realistic because a lot of teen mothers do that with their children. But that my two cents
Well she was just a kid when she became a mother and she was terrified and traumatized by her own mother. I think it's very reasonable that she wanted to be the mother she never had and always wanted.. That's what i would do to.
I was a huge Lorelei defender on the 1st watch but on the second watch I was like “why are SO into your daughter’s love life?”. Emily and Lorelei are the different faces of the same coin
@@diorchanelhermes Finally someone said it! They are the same person but in different ways.
As the show progressed, I couldn't help getting more and more uncomfortable with the way Rory was acting. She was amazing in the first seasons, but then she became a bad person, entitled to getting her way and never taking responsibility for her actions. That's the saddest thing ever to me
Good points
@X Y funny ha ha you are h i l a r i o u s
@X Y bro u are so sad
@X Y what point are you trying to make here? Where did you read feminism into this lmaoo, embarrassing for you.
exactly. and she carried on her self centered behavior in the revival, from her expecting an easy job offer, to the cheating. luckily I've met a lot of millenials with more sense than her, though 🤣
Rory gave me motivation to do my schoolwork, then she gave me the motivation to stop watching the show.
Haha, same here, I was definitely a Rory during my school days, only to become mildly rebellious later on.
Hahaha
😂😂😂😂
Thank you 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 i really hated her at the end..... but i will always love lori❤
Same same same 😭
the fact that rory feels entitled enough to write a book and take credit for her mum's life story says everything... lorelai caving in and letting her daughter also says loads about her inability to say no to her daughter
I don't think it's taking credit for her story. it's just telling her story
she cant say no to rory anymore, whenever lorelai criticises her rory always cut her off and lorelai is too dependent on rory to go through the pain again.
Rory’s story is all too relatable for those of us who coasted through the early parts of our lives through a mix of craftiness and luck. It all comes tumbling down in adulthood when hard work is so much more important than being able to “hack it”.
Unless!
You hack it - by becoming a haX0r :O
*big brain moment*
Theres no way you can call what rory experienced as just "craftiness & Luck" so i hope thts not what youre saying
@B Babbich by hard work was actually meant self - discipline, focus, and necessary sacrifices required to create and maintain Self-Determination or total lifelong independence
Tbh Paris was my favorite character, whilst she had the same privileges (wealthy, good schools) she completely understood the importance of being driven and hard work. Unlike Rory it was often implied that she didn't have a deep relationship with either of her parents, instead her nanny comes to support her at her graduation bringing along her children (or grandchildren) who Paris knows and has also developed relationships with. In the 'Year' episodes its obvious that her hard work has paid off as she is very successful (there are still some imperfections with her life but she acknowledges them and you feel that she will put in the work to move forward).
Paris knew she was one in the pack of hard-working people, with access to the same privilege, so she needed to push more. Also, once her parents have taxes problems, she went to look for a job, and while she was intensely asking for feedback on the waitress job, it points to the main difference between Paris and Rory, Paris was always looking to get better, Rory assumed she was perfect.
Paris had a major setback when she didn't get accepted into Harvard. Maybe it ended up for her benefit to have gone through that
@Erwin Lii the cristina yang comparison is so spot on
Paris understood that she was part of a legacy. She didn't want to be the weak link, whether it came to being Puffed or getting into Harvard. She wanted to be the best and had the drive to accomplish it.
@@sonias9722 totally, and she actually started to see a kind of therapist after that (Even is the series treat this like a joke). It was somehow helpful that she got less and less idealistic relationships and that people didn't like her
Rory was the type of girl who wanted to struggle but not really struggle. She liked the look and feel of it but as long as she had a safety net. I’ve heard some say Jess was better because he called her out on her sh*t but so did Logan. Rory was the only one who didn’t see it.
Logan after her story after his party. I think it was the chip Lorelai put, like being rich is bad, and somehow they are better because they "struggle". That is my problem with Jess when he talked to Rory that they used to mock people like Logan.
A safety net is not a bad thing, almost everyone has one somewhere. Jess got help from Luke. Even Lorelai, who we see as this incredibly independent pioneer woman, actually had a lot of help from the people of Stars Hollow, the hotel she started working for let her live onsite with a baby. She made it into the paper even, as you see in the revival, presumably so people could drop by and help. I think Lorelai couldn't help seeing herself as more sophisticated and the townspeople as essentially sitcom characters, because lets face it, that is what they were for the most part and she needed to stay sane (she's not from that world, we get it) but she learns to live and let live as well. They let her talk fast, for example. Rory's mistake was to see herself as above the safety net of Stars Hollow, and allow herself to be manipulated by her grandparents' wealth, which is a different kind of safety net.
Logan did call her out on occasion, but he also enabled some of her worst behavior. And he was always quick to use his connections in various situations. Logan's biggest obstacle was that he felt forced to work for his father, and yet he never seriously considers just walking away and forging his own path.
Exactly. That's why Logan was always my favorite. I do not acknowledge his actions in the revival.
Both Lorelai and Rory are very guilty of this. Lorelai runs to mom and dad for money for Rory's private education. That irritated me, what was wrong with public school? Lorelai knows she wont really struggle, parents are there for her.
I honestly love Rory's story arch. Most stories depict characters developing into something great, but not Rory. She's just as human as the rest of us.
Shes a rich human. Not like the rest of us.
@@heartribbonhairband exactly
Yeah a human. But a bad one.
@@hvnniii she has regular, realistic flaws, they wrote her v well
@@khaashbal6407 girl we are talking about cheating here. Its not a flaw. Its a problem.
I watched Gilmore Girls when I was in high school, and I initially really admired Rory for being a sweet, intelligent, and seemingly down-to-earth girl. I wanted to be just like her! But that admiration started waning when she went to Yale and it dropped exponentially when she dropped out of Yale. Now when rewatching the show, I realize that I was a lot like Paris- determined, chronically anxious and working hard to reach the end-goal.
I dropped the show very early on so I didn't know about the dropping out story before seeing this vid. I just burst out laughing. If I took opinions of middle-aged white men this seriously, I wouldn't live long :D
I agree with this and I am realising I am Paris and honestly I would probably be closer to Paris if I was friends with Rory because she is a lovely and fun person to be around
It's ironic that as Lorelai matured and made a commitment to Luke, Rory became more childish and entitled, ending up a liar and a cheater.
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Was it rory’s more cynical outlook that made her more childish instead of her previous wholesome innocence
Entitled is a stretch but she did get more cynical
Let's remember that Lorelai started out as a teen single mom, and not use the term single parent as an insult.
@@Ilikefrogs.. usually single parents end up being single parents because of dumb decisions, it's not like the vast majority are widowed
But are we going to get a Gilmore Girls movie with that cliff hanger ending
Soooo, no one is going to point out how she didn't really have a healthy relationship with Lorelai. They were more friends than mother and daughter. Lorelai failed repeatedly to put boundaries and be a parent instead of a bff.
Infact in italian the show is called "Una mamma per amica", which actually means a mother who acts like a bff, kinda makes sense hahaha
Lorelai was 16 and came from the trauma of her house when she had Rory. So instead of being a mum like her own mum, she decides to be a BFF to Rory. maybe a BFF type of relationship that she wanted from her own mum.... my thoughts
exactly, Lorelai put the standard of Rory being the nature one of the house, that is a pressure no kid should have to deal with. Lorelai did not act like an adult
she defended rory when terese got mad at her for sleeping with dean.
@@swiftie4ever2010 To be fair, moms would do a lot of nagging on their own but no mom would let another person berate her children
For me, the best character is Lane. She's ambitious and driven, won her independence. She was compassionate and kind unlike Paris, she never looked down on anyone. She failed in her career as a musician, and had to return to her mother's way, but she wasn't a sore loser. Even in her failure, she was strong and content in her own way. She stayed true to her passion, and still pursued music as a hobby. She is loyal and reliable, a great friend everybody could want. Rory is the heart without the mind, Paris is mind without the heart; Lane Kim is both. If everyone were like Lane, the world would be a much better place.
In the comments people say that Lane has failed the most… people think that having kids is a tragedy and not being rich is a failure. They didn’t learn anything from Luke and Lane.
I do think Lane was the most successful however I think it was v unrealistic that somebody like Rory would of stayed close to her elementary school friend who didn't go to college and had twins when she was 21. @@guybrushthreepwood4174
@@guybrushthreepwood4174 It's been awhile since I watched the Netflix special, but I remember Lane being generally happy with Zack and her kids. I don't know why everyone is saying her life was ruined when she got married and had kids.
I feel like Rory is a classic case of "gifted kid syndrome." In America, kids with "gifted" IQs are often placed on a pedastal. They go to "special programs" and are told how smart they are constantly. Everything comes with ease and so the kids end up slacking a bit thinking they are still "driven" because they are getting good grades. Usually, kids end up learning their lesson at around 14/15 years old when high school starts, as the classes are much harder and require more studying. In some cases, this ends up with the kid burning out and starting to fail, before they manage to develop healthy studying techniques. However, the select few do not reach this point of burnout in high school, but rather college (unniversity). This is what we see with Rory. The work gets so hard for her that she thinks it is impossible to do, burns out, and drops out of Yale. The thing is, Rory has continued that into her adult life. She never learned the healthy coping mechanisms. Instead, she insists she is smart and always correct like how she was in her childhood. This is the gifted kid syndrome.
Exactly! 100% on point! she definitely didn’t have healthy coping mechanisms, nor healthy boundaries with Lorelei. Like when she returns to Yale and has to attend mandatory therapy; Lorelei was so against it, worried about what she’d say about her, instead of seeing her child needed to continue therapy for her own mental health.
R'amen! I'm an elder millennial & school was very easy for me at first. I was always eager to learn and all, but I never studied and couldn't get why other kids couldn't figure it out. When I got into honors math in 6th grade, I came to a screeching halt. I couldn't understand anything all of a sudden (WTH are letters doing in math problems?!) and I learned how to give up. I kept failing and nobody could explain it to me, and so I went back to regular math where I could coast and get straight As. I just figured I was smart... until I wasn't anymore. And nobody was harping on my grades or helping me out, so I continued to flounder. Got some better teachers in high school that helped bridge the gap, but those middle school years were hell. I didn't really learn good study skills til college. I was book-smart, but real-world stuff just baffled me. Still does, sometimes.
This stuff is part of the reason I try to be a good tutor to kids. When they get down on themselves and say they'll never get it, I make sure to tell them otherwise and help them find ways to push on and keep learning. I learned to give up in math too soon, and that hindered me from a lot of paths I wanted to try because i considered them too hard. I'd probably be a scientist right now if I'd learned to study and pushed through. Instead I'm a lot like Rory (minus the money and boys): once I was out of school, I couldn't hack it. Now, I've got my fingers crossed that I get a job I applied for that will let me pay bills and have a work-life balance (if I live very cheaply from now on and stay healthy) after 24 job applications in 3 months. It's disarming when you don't have realistic help to do better and that you have serious gaps in your personal growing-up education.
This is a very strange comment. I take it you are against giving people opportunity?
How do we reach new heights without encouragement? If we have limited resources, you have to focus on the areas that might pan out.
@@98Zai I am not against giving people opportunity, I'm just saying the culture can be toxic and lead to kids feeling like they don't need to do anything to succeed. I say this as someone who grew up in those programs.
@@mxngos7493 I wish someone would have either removed the noisy ADHD kids or me from the classroom. I see how pushing a genius label on a kid can be detrimental, but some kids do not reach their potential in a normal setting. I don't think this TV show is a good metric to prove anything, it's entertainment. A perfect person succeeding isn't fun to watch.
The way Rory repeatedly forgot about Paul in the revival irked me. Then I realised that she was so used to being fawned over in her small town, that once she got to college, and realised that everyone was just as smart as her, she couldn't take it, and used him as a crutch.
Big fish, small town.
Another example of White Pretty Privilege
Yup!! I couldn’t even finish the revival.
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 oh give me a break, racist
It’s channeled through spectrum from the idea and thought pro grammars select a vision from the tell lie Vision reverse Poltergeist entity downloads
@@mfmageiwatch It must be nice to live in a small perfect bubble where someone pointing out that a white person has privilege is racism to you. Get a grip
Honestly, I love Lorelai's character, but a lot of what makes up Rory's downfall is the way Lorelai raised her. She always complimented her a bit too often. She inflated her daughter's ego all the time. She also never really reprimanded her except maybe a couple times, but it never stuck and it seemed like she always gave in for fear of Rory not liking her or not talking to her. It's understandable to a degree because Lorelai tried so hard to be the opposite of her own mother, but it ended up hurting Rory's growth and development.
Agreed. Plus, we know who to look to to figure out where Rory learned to treat her boyfriends so badly. I loved Lorelai's character when I first watched the show in college, but I watched it again when the reboot came out, and I found her so immature.
@@AllthePrettyPurses Exactly. She handled a lot of situations very poorly. Yes, me too. Honestly to me, it seemed like Lorelai grew up and matured over the series while Rory regressed and became more immature. I definitely like Rory more at the beginning and Lorelai better at the end.
I think that Lorelai depended too much on her daughter due to her own immaturity. That is why she wasn't able to function correctly as parent and a grown-up person.
Bah! BS. The only reason Rory has issues at age 30 is because the mtr fkr script writer wrote it so. She is a fictitious character, the writer just by fingering on a keyboard can change her problems into a blissful successful life.
No she didn’t. The real problem was that Lorelai always called Rory her pal first, daughter second.
Rory was always entitled, privileged and had a superiority complex, I liked that the revival was realistic about how she would've actually end up, and that it's not necessarily a millenial thing, because Paris worked her ass off and ended up being extremely successful (I love Paris)
Exactly! The saddest part of the series was when Paris didn’t get into Harvard. It was so sad
I don’t understand why Paris is so loved, people like her in real life are impossible to stand. I had a girl like that in my highschool class, she constantly treated me like I was inferior because my grades are lower and everytime I did better then her you could feel the jealousy from her behaviour. She was hated by the entire class and she didn’t have any friends until she eventually change her attitude.
Paris is successful but still unhappy, Lane is “unsuccessful” but happy, Rory is unsuccessful and unhappy but she’s still trying to find herself, life isn’t over at 32.
@@guybrushthreepwood4174 you are so right! I think the revival made a great point there, that for this generation, success is no longer the goal, happiness is! And happiness is always tied to the love you have around you. And if you don't have "life figured out" (if that's even possible), by 32, that's ok
@@sarag.945nah bruh if I was in ur class I wouldn’t be able to stand u either 😀
That`s why I like Paris much more. She followed her dreams and never gave up, while Rory degraded to the ridiculous love triangles instead of being more focused on her career.
And yet I used to think that Paris was just this Rich snob but throughout some clips that I've seen on the show she isn't that bad at all
But Paris is still unhappy, anxious and in an unsuccessful marriage. It’a not all about money.
The problem with Rory´s downfall is how lacks self awareness. She sleeps with a married man ;still is the very small town´s favorite girl, drops out of yale ; still graduates with honors ,cheats on her boyfriend with an engaged ex and is a terrible worker ; the camera focusses on her face and sad music as if i had to feel sorry for her. The deconstruction of a character can be good, but with Rory the narrative espected me to side with her and have no sympathy with the people she hurt (oh haha, she is so funny that she can't remember breaking up with her boyfriend, haha) , i hated her so much on the revival.
Plus Amy didn't really give her a redemption arc to make her likeable again. The show ended before she could actually make any amends.
Honestly, I felt that the narrative was very neutral on its commentary of her. We see the world through the eyes of Lorelai and Rory (and to a lesser extent Luke and Emily) and through that lens we're going to see how things affect her emotionally. It's a deconstruction of her character through her own eyes-she can't see it, and so it's hard for us to see it, but if you step back you definitely CAN see it. But that's done intentionally, because I think the show is showing how easy it is for a person to become that way without them even realizing it, because even the viewer will see it without realizing that this is really the intention for her character. Idk if I'm saying this right, but I feel that the show portrayed her very honestly and let us form our own opinions on her rather than provide commentary on its characters through structure and emphasis.
this!
@@andreatorrealba7639 Not all stories get redemption arcs.
Yes!
For me, Rory's downfall really started when she dropped out of Yale in season 5/6, but her weaknesses are even hinted at in earlier seasons, like when she had a meltdown in Chilton because she failed one test. I think Lorelai was so focused on providing her opportunities and making sure she got everything she wanted that she never properly taught Rory how to deal with the one thing we will all inevitably encounter: failure. Sometimes even being smart and doing your best is not good enough to secure success.
Also, what happens to Rory happens in real life to many children who are pushed towards the achievement of perfection, but don't have the necessary amount of stamina and end up being delusional. In the end of the day Rory did not have any real goal, she was just obsessed with an idealized vision of Harvard, like she was living in some dark academia fantasy.
Also, her first semester, when she was advised to drop one subject, we saw her crying to Dean, but we never saw her assimilate the advice.
@@gianmarcorusso1713 Oh, yes! I was this talented kid. To be wunderkid at 10 it is enough to be able to read faster than others, play the accordion, and draw a little. Fortunately, I realized early enough that I am pretty regelar person and there are a lot of people who smarter than me. So I stopped watching the show in season 5, Rory started to piss me off, I began to see myself in her.
@@user-eu9lh4ki2z I totally can relate as I have a similar story, so I saw myself in Rory as well ;)
I think her downfall started when she slept with the married Dean, with stupid reasons. I started disliking the show after that.
I would argue that Rory already was a mother.
At the series, where they say she's still 15, she was doing a lot of the household chores. They said (as a joke maybe?) that Lorelai doesn't clean. Lorelai though was always unable to find things at home and Rory knew where everything was, meaning she was the one that put things away/tidied.
Lorelai was surprised at the clean clothes Rory had for her first day at Chilton and Rory said she did that sometimes, wash her own clothes 'whenever there isn't anything clean'....implying that Lorelai had a habit of doing that, even if just once in awhile.
Applying to schools like Chilton and Yale, everyone knows there are huge fees. Rory was even worried about them but her mom just said everything would be fine. She still never looks up the cost of tuition until she gets the letter(s) in the mail. She had just assumed she could get a big bank loan (and that she'd be abel to pay it off).
Lorelai sometimes talked to her about her dates - which is wildly inappropriate - but Rory was the one giving advice.
There are too many examples to name....
People who grow up in households where they had to be the parent (to themselves or young siblings) feel tightly wound and need an outlet. Often it's when they get away from home the first time, then they sort of overcompensate and sometimes go nuts. It's like all those kids in high school you knew who were never allowed to even try a drink of alcohol then when they're in college they go batshit and drink all the time...it's overcompensating for years of being tightly wound.
Rory was still not relatable in Year in the Life because for starters she had inherited a fortune but the writers just forgot about that detail. Viewers didn't since they were constantly seeing the Gilmore mansion, we know Rory wasn't 'broke' like she claimed.
And when Rory announced she was pregnant I just thought,...So? Because she was 32, with a college degree, family & friends around her, she had money... oh and yeah, she basically raised her own mother... she already went through motherhood
I heard this. I still have both parents, but had to be the 3rd ones. With my mother brokes down in front of me, and demanded me to parent my younger sibling and be the middle man between my father and her, and my father who always demanded me to be my mother helper while he always absent. Those tied me down when my siblings flies the coop and think they dont have responsibility for my elderly parents because "sister is there". I cannot muster romance because every men think i am too cold, too calculating and " being with you is like with being with tired middle age mom with adult children"😂
But i guess that is my life, and still learning to shed my chains and spread my wings....but still dreaded to be a parent because my younger sister turned on me just because i dont approve of her husband, that turned out abused her.😢 i know being a failure felt like. I know since i am 6 y.o because my home was not clean enough for my mother.
I’m rewatching Gilmore girls for the second time as a college student and literally Rory is held on a pedestal when she is Really just a basic smart girl not a genius or incredibly special. She was really hyped up.
To me Rory turned out to be much like her father Christopher.
Underrated comment! Yes, that rudderless, directionless, unsettled energy in Rory was quite Christopher-esque.
Yup. Everything her mother fought against. Selfish and entitled and not wanting to settle down.
@@kerrysater157 lorelai IS selfish and entitled and has a long line of unsuccessful relationships just because she wasnt mature enough to work on them so she just bailed everytime
She treats her parents horribly and never once takes a step back and reflect on how her actions were part of the problem
Often took advantage of people around her especially luke
Raised rory horribly by literally worshipping her and almost never reprimending her and projecting her failed life onto her, she was always a friend first and a parent second, she boosted rorys ego relentlessly and overall was just as horrible as rory if not more since she was the main reason behind rorys spoiled attitude
Wow I've never thought about it. It's so true!
@@wonder0663 I get what she did in her relationships and specially to luke was wrong. But Lorelai wasn’t entitled. Her parents treated her horribly so she treated them the same but less severe.
she doesn't represent millennials, she represents entitlement.
This...this perfectly summarizes my whole reaction to anti-millenial hostility. They're judging a generation that's been hugely screwed over by the ones that came before, and they're using the most priveleged minority among that generation to justify their judgment.
@@lydiafayre9806 perfectly said! Rory was fun to watch when I was a kid/teen but now that I'm an adult I really dislike her character both for her lack of "morals" and for her blatant entitlement. The wrost part is that she doesn't even realise how lucky and blessed she is. She was born into the 1% and still dares to complain, meanwhile the rest of us are working twice or three times harder and are barely getting by.
I get what the writers were going with her,. her character arc was atrocious though, I expected so much more from her.
I think that the problem with her is the fact that maybe she was praised too much, she lived in a bubble and has no idea what real life looks like. She demonstrated zero self awareness or resilience. Plus the fact that she's pregnant, jobless and a single parent after all the things she was handed drives me nuts. Jesse, on the other hand, evolved magnificently imo :)
it's true, this whole stereotype can occur regardless of which generation the person belongs
Yeah, saying she was meant to represent millennials kinda gives the writers credit they do not deserve when it comes to her arc, largely because the tropes weren't even established yet when the main show was written. It is also, you know, notable that Rory is framed "not like other millennials" when she returns to Star's Hollow - and I'm pretty sure none of those millennials would have shown up to a job interview completely unprepared and gotten offended at the notion of having to have pitches or ideas prepared. I don't think the Palladinos had too firm of a grasp on the story they were telling with Rory and then were given free reign to indulge their mean spirited side in the revival.
She represents those without self awareness. Lack of self awareness is contagious and if you’re lucky enough to have someone to call you out in your bs, hold on to them. Even tho what they say about you hurts. It’s hard to tell the difference between a hater and a honest critic.
that's what i love about gilmore girls, the characters are flawed and discussions about their morale arise constantly. the fact that they all move in grey areas is what makes this show good. Every time i rewatch the show i get something different out of it, it is subtle, the relationships between emily and lorelai are my favourite because they are so complex.
Exactly, there wouldn't be so many comments if the characters were not flawed that's what makes it interesting.
Rory was obviously spoiled, but the show was amazing. I don't think it's bad writing to create a whole show like that.
The part about being spoiled is only *half* true; for all the idyllic things about Rory's formative years, she still had to play parent when Lorelei should've been doing that. Rory's adulthood antics are partly a matter of her being the child she never could be during actual childhood!!
Honestly as a young girl I saw Rory as a role model, to just work diligently and do what I'm told, and thought that everything else would fall into place. Now I find myself in a similiar situation, with some of the same bad traits. Only difference is boys/men didn't magically fall in love with me, and my shyness wasn't seen as "adorable" and my parents/grandparents didn't have money, still I somehow ended up entitled and with that same mentality, that I was "supposed to be successful". I take this video as inspiration to work on myself.
It's beautiful that you are able to see your mistakes! I would say I am in the same position as you, and I believe firmly that is never too late to improve. Honestly, it's nice to see other people going through this, good luck with everything!
Honestly, same here. My boomer parents lived out their 'Rory life' but back then the economy was different. They got a job they wanted right after college, I didn't. And they were the average middle class people growing up. No connections at high places or anything like that. Even now with a phd and somewhat on track to a research career, I still feel like I'm following a not-so-well-thought-out path. On the other hand, it really is just getting more and more difficult to get a job, ANY job. I can only hope the generation raised by millennials would have a more realistic and grounded upbringing than the one I had. Social media influence aside.
Same! I'm a millennial raised by boomers. I had a similar upbringing to Rory. Always told how brilliant, special, and mature I was but also disparaged whenever I struggled. I became completely averse to risk & failure by the time I was in high school. I knew something was wrong so I joined the military, but that just made things worse. I'm living down the consequences now. I think tho as long as you learn from your mistakes (which aren't really mistakes), that IS the success. The rest is just status in the eyes of others.
I feel you. I grew up as a "prodigy" child, always being told by parents, relatives and teachers how smart I was and that I had such a bright future ahead. Only when I got to college did I realize how average I was and that I had no determination to study and apply myself; I had good grades at school with very little effort but that just wouldn't do anymore. I never learned how to overcome a challenge and never felt the need to do so.
Now, at almost 30, I have a degree in engineering that I feel no connection to whatsoever, and feel I wouldn't even know what to do with. I'm working at a job that is nowhere near what I'd like to be doing and pays just enough to make ends meet. Still, I'm so afraid of challenges that I'd rather stay at the same unfulfilling job being underpaid than take a risk at something else. I also think my lack of experience in my field makes me more and more unhirable as I get older.
Thing is, I am aware of the problem and what made me like this. What I lack now is the knowledge and the courage to break free from it and try to change my life.
@@wonipowa7542 Thank you, I appreciate that. Although it arguably set me back, I do feel my head is on straight now and that I have the self-awareness & empathy I was missing before. If that's all I'm here to accomplish, I'm happy with that 😊
Rory cheating with Dean is my number 1 character assassination in tv history. It was the end of the show for me.
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I was looking for this comment. It's so obvious for me. And then he cheating on his wife for a girl who cheated on him made me lose all the respect I had for him...
Same
I believe thats when the show went down, and we saw the first glimpse of who rory would be
True, but it was realistic, which I liked.
Have you guys ever considered things from Rory's perspective? From a very young age she was constantly praised for being smart and put together... So she started putting that pressure on herself to be constantly perfect and "have everything her mother didn't"... I believe that would take a toll on anyone... So it's just about time that she at one point exploded...
Also, she was from a blue blooded pedigree family on both parents' sides, but she was also an illegitimate child. That's more added pressure on her that no matter what she did, she may never be good enough for that society's standards.
agreed.
I did because I was kinda there - smart, a bookworm, mature for her age, never had to crack open a texbook because she got everything she needed from classes, and the eventual realisation that it's just not enough and the subsequent first big lifechanging failure. Granted, I am not from a rich family, have both parents and money was something I was not used to (also didn't steal a yacht but I did drop out of (tuition free) university), but it checks out pretty well. It doesn't excuse the way *Rory and I acted when we cracked but it puts it into perspective.
Rory is her own person but also a product of her upbringing to a certain degree. If you're being told by people of authority that you're good and will be successful, you have no reason not to believe it; of course you feel wronged when it doesn't work out because everyone told you it would. Lorelei and her grandparents uninitentionally did her dirty.
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I'm all good with that up to a point. Drop out of school, fine. Play your grandparents and mom off eachother because they can't manage their relationship, understandable. But I draw the line at boffing married dudes, stealing yachts, demanding people leave your "study tree"...My right to self destruct is my right. My rights end where your boundaries begin. Hurting other people is not ok.
@@aprilmichel7816 "It didn't excuse the way I and Rory acted" How about "It didn't excuse the way RORY and I acted" Yeah you NEVER had to crack open a textbook huh smdh.
It's so insightful to have watched GG with my own mother when I was a teenager versus watching it now as an adult closer to Loralai's age. I always thought it was strange that Rory was always reading, but never writing. She never showed any real interest in journalism aside from working on the paper in school.
When I was a teen : Rory was my favourite.
Now that I'm an adult : Paris is my favourite.
honestly, I aspire to be like paris
Paris is psychotic lol. you got some more maturing to do
@@rishaa682 She learns to chills out more in a year of the life and ends up owning her own successful business despite not getting into the university of her choice and having major accomplishments passes by her by Rory.
She's a hard worker who learns to take rejection and still continues to work hard and eventually succeed and I think those are great qualities to aspire towards.
@@dantilion7915 and rory also showed psychotic behavior herself. Paris actually did get into harvard at the end at the end of season seven
Paris had far more integrity than Rory.
One of the best moments in the later seasons was when Logan put Rory in her place and told her just how privileged she was.
One of my favorites. And it was so interesting how offended she was. "No, I'm the poor little girl who's Mom was a maid. I lived in a shed!" Except she was also a Gilmore and since she was 16, getting all the advantages that being the granddaughter of Richard and Emily afforded her.
Logan was a terrible person lol
Notably, in season 7, which had a completely different writing staff. And don't get me wrong, it was not a good season, but all the good things that happened in it, that could have put people on a better path, were walked back in the revival when the Palladinos got the show back.
@@rishaa682 how? Personally I really like Logan, I think he was a great boyfriend for Rory back
then. However I did not like how they ended in “ a year in the life”. And yeah there were definitely questionable things but he was always there for Rory and he was upfront and honest with her sense day 1.
@@rishaa682 I think he understood his place though, although he should have stood up to his father.
I watched the show when I was 21 for the first time and while I like the aesthetics & study inspiration, I think the whole premise should be taken with a grain a salt and would make a good essay prompt lol.
To me it was clear from the start that Lorelai raised Rory to be such an over achiever to prove her parents that she could make it on her own terms. She did one hell of a job, let's be honest, but the trope of "friend first, mom second" affected Rory upbringing. My mom, who I see as one of my bestest friends who I can talk to about everything, told me that the mom being the friend more than the parent is ultimately a diservice to the child because then she won't be able to see when the child makes mistakes and/or help fix them. The moment Lorelai started doing that Rory didn't like being held accountable all of a sudden and ran to her grandparents, two entitled people, true, but also two people who would do anything to have their granddaughter around, understandably.
I know maybe we shouldn't look too deep into it, but it's still a good learning example.
I think everyone including the watcher forgets that Rory didn't always have it easy. She wasn't just a smart miracle kid, she worked hard for it. But everyone (characters) acts like it's natural for Rory to be smart so she started to believe in it too and stopped working hard that much because her efforts are not being recognized and praised.
The fact that she wanted to turn her mother's life store into a book for the entire world to read is despicable
That 50-50 split between idyllic and heart-wrenching factors explains why Rory persisted in her immaturity for so long.
The most hilarious fall of hers was when Logan’s dad told her she wouldn’t get far and threw a semester long fit, took advantage of her grandparents, refused to talk to her mom, refused to understand she was privileged while accepting it then ‘tried’ to be rebel. What’s worse is that no one would directly call her out so she never really had any character growth.
Hahaha yes, and years later, we see he was absolutely right, she didn't have it as a journalist. Maybe she will have it as a writer and hopefully as a single mother.
Jess called her out on her self-destructive path. Logan called her out on her privilege and stupidity to go down because of his father's opinion about her doing a stupid internship. Paris and Doyle indirectly called her out on her lack of work ethics. She had a lot of people of her same age surrounding her and growing up while learning to live a real life like her but she never got to listen to them because she thought she was special and unique and didn't deserve to be treated like any other person would be treated doing the same experiences as her.
JESS DID CALL HER OUT!!!!!!
Her mother tried to call her out, but she wouldn't talk to her.
So in conclusion, it was good writing for everyone else but bad writing for her character smh
One thing I’d disagree - her story isn’t about white privilege, it’s CLASS privilege
If she went to public school & never learned of her grandparents’ wealth, the whole story changes
Class plays a HUGE role in her downfall, the average white millennial can’t relate
I found it interesting that the vid brings up Girls as an example of another typical “entitled millennials” show bc for those characters, class was also their defining privilege. This is because Lena Dunham herself came from rich parents, her dad specifically being from an old money WASP background, so she gave her characters the same typical rich kid problems she dealt with.
Amy Sherman Palladino (creator of Gilmore Girls) also had rich and well-connected parents in the entertainment industry, and was able to advance so quickly in the industry bc of those connections. She has said specifically in interviews that she meant for Rory to exemplify the failings of the entitled millennial. The irony is that she herself is an extremely privileged and very entitled Gen X-er who has no concept of the struggles working class people go thru. Countless millennials’ careers suffered bc the recession hit right when they were finishing college, not bc they were whiny brats who didn’t want to work - they literally could not find work. But ASP is so divorced from the real struggles of everyday people.
In real life , she’s part Latina
This
@@lmmm1459 Latinos can be white too tho. Her Latino side is from Argentina, which is a very white country, and her Argentinian grandparents are of Danish, German, Scottish and English descent
@@lmmm1459 A person can be Latina and white e.g Giselle Bundchen can be considered Latina because she is from Brazil and there is a substantial German community in Latin America. Lots of Nazis also ran off to Latin America after WW2 ,and married within the German community already there ,do they stop being white just because they are now based in a Latin American country?
I believe that a lot of Rory's stunted growth comes from Loralai always being the fun mom
Rory definitely had some problematic traits. I agree that everything was all about her, but some of that behavior was learned from her mom. Lorelai was a hard worker but she also was dramatic and often acted as if the world revolves around her. Luke was willing to wait for Lorelai to fix her relationship with Rory before setting a wedding date, but when Luke found out about April and was trying to develop a relationship with her, Lorelai was not willing to wait. That’s just one example of how self-centered she could be.
They both thought they were so damn cute. In fact, a majority of the characters on that show did. I feel like Lane was an exception, maybe Sookie too, Dean's wife...Luke.
the way she acted in the Year in the Life thing was way worse than some problematic traits. it got borderline sociopathic with Paul and Logan
I admire Paris’s work ethic
In real life Paris would have been the valedictorian and Harvard accepted.
Best character on the show. Except for Mrs. Kim of course
@@gertrudessle2062 and Kirk!!!!
I like that at least she got the career she wanted
@@avokanima3403 Kirk had every job in the town. Now that is a work ethic to be admired, but his tax filings must have been a nightmare.
Rory being “stuck” in her 30’s wasn’t relatable. It was a big plot hole. We know, based on the original series, that she had several trust funds, one from her father and one from her great grandmother. Plus, Rory probably inherited even more money from Richard after he died. It’s highly unlikely that she blew through all that money and was so poor that she just had to move back home and couldn’t afford to buy her own place. Poverty and unemployment didn’t stop Rory from flying back and forth to the UK. The revival was super messy and made Rory insufferable.
I was confused as well...
My theory is that the writers of the show wanted what happened in the revival to happen in season 7 but they left the show for some reason and season 7 got written differently. So now the original writers of the show made the year in a life into their original plan for season 7 which makes me feel a bit angry - they screwed up Rory on purpose it seems.
@@natalyaporter5730 exactly! That would have made sense in season 7, what it means just some years after she graduated. But in the way they did it was like "are you telling me that in 10 years she didn't do anything in her life at all??"
And she keep paying the rent from her NY room btw. But is more or less more or the same, she goes "poor me, I am not having the job of my dream" but she have a safety net. Just like Lorelai, who could run to her parents when needed, even if she didn't like it
@@jessicadavalos5710
Which is another reason why the revival was hard to swallow. Someone in Rory’s position, in her 30’s, would have had a master’s degree, at the bare minimum. Journalism jobs at major news outlets are scarce, and once her career stalled, she would’ve went back to school to make herself more competitive in the job market. Rory would have used her family connections and Yale alumni network to get some sort of suitable gig while living off of her trust funds. “A year in the life” was written as if Rory was 23, not 33.
I really think the difference between Rory and Paris comes down to how "unlikeable" Paris is versus Rory. Rory is a very pleasant person (most of the time) and makes good first impressions, and as much as it sucks to have your accomplishments not matter because your personality is prickly (like Paris), I think that's really realistic, especially for women, and I did like how the show portrayed it!
In the words of Taylor Swift: "I had the shiniest wheels. Now they're rusting." I genuinely believe Taylor was watching the GG revival when she wrote "this is me trying"
Omg Yeah i also thought About this🤠
Really can't blame Paris for hating Rory in the beginning. Most successful people I know now were like Paris in high school - frantic and hardworking. Rory never realized she had a gilded life.
I'm glad she and Paris became friends eventually. But Paris as a character seemed almost like a caricature in the beginning. Fundamentally unlikeable and mega neurotic. Then again, Rory was portrayed in equally unrealistic way, so 🤷♀️
oh god this argument is so stupid. rory got better scores than paris because she worked hard too but worked smarter than her somehow. paris always felt threatened by rory's intellect and tried to kill her confidence the early days rory joined the school. when she realized rory is being more kind towards her than her other friends she started to stop hating rory. paris was so threatened by rory cos she knew rory could beat her.
👍 yes
but i feel that rory was hardworking too atleast till chilton she studied day and night so-
Paris was a bully in the beginning & most of it was due to Tristan…she had no right regardless how “easy” Rory supposedly had it…ridiculous argument…
Rory's not a journalist and never was. Even watching when it aired, it never seemed like the right profession for her: she's so introverted and logical and needs structure; journalism doesn't suit her.
Jess was the first person to bring that up to her and she couldn't handle the truth 😂 Rory liked the idea of being a journalist, but not the reality.
Agreed
Seriously. Rory thrived in organizational roles, not in investigative ones. Event management might have been a good career for her, but as an actual career and not as a hobby like her grandmother did it basically.
Am I the only one who thinks Rory would make at least a half-decent teacher? Put her back into the world where she thrived the most.
@@AndrielleHillis seriously. She should have taken that job offer from the headmaster.
I was addicted to these series back in my late teens, I just loved everything about Rory. Though we did not have the same background, I totally recognized myself in her. Doing really good at school does not make you a confident person and all those expectations well-meaning people put on you don't help getting there. I loved how she was trying to get somewhere despite being shy, reserved and socially awkward. And yes, she did make mistakes and used shortcuts when they were available. Who wouldn't when you already struggle as is. It's really incredible how much judgement that character gets here in this video. Apparently, a woman needs to be no less than perfect in her looks, behavior, speech and what not according to this. Where is the deeper understanding of individual struggles regardless of our background, where is the compassion? Luckily, it's just fictional character but I do recognize in this judgmental monologue how society views women, how it measures them, how it defines what is succes, how it dictates what is humble. We still have a long way to go...
She thought that she was too good and that's why she didn't accept the job self-entitlement can be very dangerous
I think her downfall came after she slept with dean despite him being married. Somewhere inside the untainted perfect that she believed she was fell apart. Her mother saw that her daughter could indeed make bad judgement calls, and after Roary realized that she wasn't perfect, she just continued to go downhill with ideas lusting after boys that were tougher for her to tame. Dean was THEE guy, and she was bored, he didn't challenge her, and he doesn't fulfill her need of "danger"
I thought even millennials consider Rory a terrible character. Is this how you view us?
dont worry not everyone sees millennials like that, it's just that annoying trend these days to roast them or enforce some kind of "war" between millennials and gen z, it's stupid. i was born in 1999 so technically gen z, but i felt much older than the common gen z but still younger to millennials. im like that middlechild lol. and believe me, BOTH generations have equally terrible ppl.
@@fairsuns I’m 1998 and I truly don’t belong to any of the generations 😂
Rory’s age is what makes her a millennial. Even if we don’t like her character, she’s still in that generation. Plenty of people view millennials like this. Sucks when you get generalized and lumped into one personality type based on the year you were born vs your individuality.
Pretty much every Gilmore Girls fan I know (mostly millennials) is in agreement that Rory is the worst.
Rory is a white privileged girl. Not fair to throw all millennials under the bus because of them.
A few years ago I dated a Gilmore Girls super fan. After a few months, she asked if I'd watch through the series with her. So I did. Saw every single episode, including the four-part new thing on Netflix.
Wasn't a bad show, though I grew to dislike Rory a lot. Whatever defense could be said for her -- that she's young, that everyone has a rogue phase, etc. - doesn't really matter, I still wouldn't want to be acquainted with her in real life. Consider her behavior in the Netflix special: she spends the entire year cheating on her boyfriend, Paul, someone she'd already been dating for some time. And she's cheating on him with Logan, who is engaged to another woman altogether. She cheated on Dean with Jess; she cheated on Logan with Jess, too, and I don't care if it was just one kiss. She hooked up with Dean while he was married. And then that entire meltdown, when she stole a boat, dropped out of school, stopped talking to her mom, moved out to her grandparent's pool house, and was an a-hole to her grandmother when she moved out of that pool house; these are not "everyone makes mistakes" territory, this is "Rory is a bad person" territory.
The reaction Rory had to the whole incident with the boat was astonishing for me and I didn’t buy it at all.
You have been a role model and have rooted values about honesty and correctness and sense of responsibility. Now you steal a boat with this guy you just started dating, and you spend the night in JAIL, you will have a criminal record for life that has consequences in your career and life, and…. Your reaction is “it’s no big deal”!?? Fuck off honestly.
The true reaction with this kind of girl would be “holly shit this is real, I’m breaking up with this guy who is a bad influence, and I’m not losing my mind anymore if I can avoid it, as I don’t want to mess all my future up (even more).
but no. It was “well what’s next?” I think that’s when I was already too demotivated with the show to care anymore .
Rory's issue is not just that she doesn't pay the consequences for her actions, but she doesn't realize how what she does can ruin other peoples lives. Like Paul and especially Dean's. In real life theyre lives would be horribly ruined. And she doesn't even care
I first started watching gilmore girls two months ago when my boyfriend recommended it and it was hard to get into at first. I asked my boyfriend what was wrong with rory right away because I could sense something was off and it wasnt just that she was weird. And he said "oh nothing she's just shy and awkward" and then a few episodes later I asked if she was going to sleep with tristan at the party after her a dean broke up. And my bf said "no she doesn't do that kind of thing!" And honestly I feel like if she didnt love or are about dean then she would have just gotten with tristan but instead she gets back with dean only to cheat on him a couple episodes later with jess. Like come on. And then choosing yale over hardvard and then eventually sleeping with dean
Who is married. And she still does not pay any consequences for her actions. And then everything that happened during her melt down with logan. And then running back home and hiding behind her grandparents legs like a small child. I saw a problem with her since like season two and it kind of shocks How he sorts of defended her and made her sound like she was just trying to figure stuff out but she was a bad person. I'm glad to see that other people agree
Yeah, I really liked Rory in the earlier seasons, but was so disappointed in the bad choices she makes. Same thing with Dean. For me, it seemed out of character for these two. With Jess & Logan, each of them made plenty of bad choices, but it was more realistic to their characters, and both of them made (at least some) improvements over time.
I think they could have had plenty of drama and interesting story lines without changing Rory's & Dean's characters like that. It was nice to see that Dean got back on track and was happy with a family at the very end.
The problem is that she doesn’t learn from her mistakes. And while one could say it’s more realistic that way, because most people do repeat the same behaviors over and over, it’s not very satisfying to watch in a fictional program which is supposed to be a self-contained story with character development.
I am filled with rage by how much people hate Rory in A Year in the Life. Rory in the original show was unrelatable. She had a perfect relationship with her mother, got to live in a sweet little town with a great first boyfriend and an awesome best friend. Whilst also receiving all the privileges that came from rich grandparents. All that is great if you're looking for something light and fluffy, but Gilmore Girls has so much more potential than that, it is so much more than that.
A Year in the Life brought the show down to Earth. I loved how realistic everything was. All the character's original dreams really did not turn out as planned. The characters who thought they were headed to greatness (Rory, Paris, Logan), ended up with relatively normal lives. Paris has no connection with her children and is getting a divorce. Logan loses a lot of money, lives less lavishly and he ends up down the path his father wanted. Rory's life is one big mess.
Rather the less egotistical and/or self-centered characters ended up a lot happier. Jess learned how to treat other people with respect and he lands on his feet quite well, Dean is happily married with 4 kids, etc.
The show was a brilliant representation of what life actually is. Hundreds of thousands of high school and uni graduates each year go off believing that they will be different and special and will fullfill the highest achievements. Then a few years later you look at your classmates and you see how you all have settled for what you once viewed as "medicore" (basically, you didn't end up being the next Einstein or Oprah) and learn how to just enjoy life, regardless of your career and formal education. A Year in the Life teaches you how to enjoy life. Seeing a character I idolised go through really hard times and make really bad decisions made me feel a lot better about myself and the real world. I really am sick of these perfect characters. Rory's character is my all time favourite because of this. I actually learnt something from this show. I learnt Really important life lessons that i'm so glad I didn't have to figure out on my own at 32.
It's probably because she's a homewrecking ahole with no regard for the feelings of anyone beside herself. Sure, I didn't have it all figured out at 32, but I wasn't sleeping with someone else's partner. She's not just immature, she's a bad person.
Honestly I feel a little bad for her. Rory is told from day 1 that she is going to be perfect, she’s going to go to an Ivy League school, and she is going to do everything that Lorelai couldn’t. Imagine growing up with that kind of pressure. Eventually, Rory was going to snap, which she did when she stole a boat and dropped out.
Uh, no. Most women who are narcissists do not suddenly change because they become mothers. The just become narcissistic mothers, and continue to see the world, including their children's lives, as revolving around them.
Very good point. I highly doubt that Rory would be as supportive and selfless a mother as Lorelai because none of those traits were ever encouraged in her.
I feel like the word narcissist is thrown around too much. Rory isn’t a narcissist, a real example of narcissism in Gilmore Girls is Emily in the early seasons.
Lorelai continued to be self-absorbed and shallow, well after she had Rory--motherhood seemingly didn't change her.
@@oviya3042 i disagree. There's actually a moment in 2x16 which proves that her sense of guilt and compassion is far more genuine than rory's.
The few people that rory seems to care about/is respectful towards all have one thing in common: she is financially dependent on them. The second that she saw a chance to get away and make her own money, she took it by manipulating lorelai into agreeing to a book deal
You really should check up on what Narcissi really is because you are so off the course with this one.
The truth is that Rory's life was very realistic, a "spoiled" child, who grew up without criticism and had everything handed over to her.
She collapsed in the real world. And another thing, she never took much consideration for other people's feelings, she cheated on two boyfriends throughout the series, and she was used to cheating too, without showing any regret. She got what she deserved.
It would've been so awesome to see Lindsay in the revival, totally kicking ass and doing great in life, just to rub it in Rory's face.
@@elenarotov5442 True, but I would've wanted that moment for Lindsay, so the last time we see her isn't devastated and humiliated, but thriving and happy. And if what happened to Lindsay happened to me, I'd kind of want to run into the person who'd destroyed my marriage (intentionally or not) when I'm living my best life, which would be especially satisfying if that person was floundering. It may be petty, but there you have it. I'd be all, "Oh hey, Rory! Great to see you! What's that? You're unemployed, homeless, and seeing your engaged ex-boyfriend? Aw, what a shame. Welp, gotta get back to my successful jet setting career now. My limo and heart surgeon husband are waiting for me out front. Here's a $20. Buy yourself something nice." lol
@@cv8499 what did the missing comment say?
@@TheMarkmcr The person said that Rory wouldn't have cared because it's not like she hated Lindsay or anything. She probably would've been happy for her. She just didn't give a f**k about her or her marriage.
@@cv8499 i think that's part of what paris's role was meant for. Rory has a habit of having a temper tantrum whenever she's criticized about anything, so if someone less beneficial like lindsay got personal with rory, I highly doubt that any such meeting would have gone well for her at all.
I love that they took her in this direction. Amazing realistic writing.
This brought ack a memory from my mom. I’m not a millennial, I’m a boomer. And I college I failed the first year, so I had to redo it. My mom’s reaction: “good, that will learn you to handle a drawback. You never experienced that before. It will make you a nicer person.”
When I was growing up, I looked up to Rory. The revival made me realize how spoiled and entitled she was. Looking at her storyline in my mid-thirties, it all made sense. And I realized how different the paths and decisions I made compared to hers.
Same. And now when I watch it, i relate more to Lorelei than Rory. But they’re both ridiculous.
You didn't need to watch the revival to see this. She starts to act this way like... Year one of Yale? Maybe. Definitely year 2 of Yale.
I watched and rewatched the series so many times but I agree that not until the revival and then trying to watch it again all I could see was the privilege.
I've always hated the Logan = Christopher thing. They are not similar people, despite the wealth and bad-boy antics. If anything Logan is more similar to Richard. A rich Yalie with a fondness for pranks and mischief, who grows up to become a work dork.
Yeah, exactly! And I also really struggle with the Jess = Luke thing. Like, other than the fact they both pine for their respective Gilmore Girl, what do they have in common? Dean is more of a Luke type character (and at one point, the show has Dean literally compare his situation with Rory to Luke's situation with Lorelai) than Jess ever was. And it's not like Dean was in sort supply of 'pining-over-a-Gilmore-Girl-syndrome' so.
So does Christopher, he rejoins privileged world and becomes worker
@@BadWolfRT Luke never degraded Lorelai by making her the other woman, though. Even if you were to argue that Dean is similar to Luke in that way, he never made Lorelai suffer from his actions and inability to move on the same way Dean did by cheating on Lindsay with Rory. And Dean's "support" always came with him expecting Rory to spend time with only him and to only ever be interested in him, whereas even when Luke was insecure and even found out about Lorelai sleeping with Christopher, he didn't just yell at her the same way Dean always had the habit of doing so with Rory.
Love how Rory called Logan a “work dork” while she herself is struggling to get a job, so ironic.
What happens to Rory is what happens to a lot of parentified children. They are responsible and make good choices as kids, but when choices become complicated and important they don’t know what to do because they haven’t been taught problem solving skills by their childish parents.
I eventually found Lorelei's parents more likable than Lorelei and Rory. The only other character I've ever really liked besides Emily and Richard was Luke. His daughter April was cool too. At least with Emily you know what you're dealing with. With Lorelei and Rory it's like, "Could you BE any more of a hot mess???"
Omg I so agree. I loved Richard and Emily. Emily in a year in the life was sooo amazing. I loved how much she grew. Rory and Lorelai are just arrogant narcissistic assholes.
I would like Lorelai as a friend, but she was a mess of a romantic partner.
Rory should've just married Logan. She should've just embraced her privilege and take advantage of it to better her career. Instead she stayed oblivious of it. Lets be honest, nepotism and connections will always be present in our society and if I had the connections that my grandparents could offer me, I would embrace it.
Marrying Logan wouldn't have guaranteed her success, though. And it's obvious throughout the show that Rory hates handouts even when she struggles to find work for herself throughout the revival. There's also the obvious fact that Mitchum doesn't just hand out something without a drawback, like him offering her the internship solely because his family was weird to her at dinner only to tell her she just doesn't have what it takes, without giving her any advice on improvement, without giving her any actual good pointers as to what she could do other than offering some backhanded remark that she could be a good assistant.
This is what pretty much makes it clear that he wouldn't just offer her a job on the same level as Logan or even a regular employee of his even if she ended up marrying her son, and chances are she would've still hated it. Also, Richard and Emily never have any significant ties to publishing or journalism beyond Mitchum in the series. They offer Lorelai or Rory help with money, but that's about it, and the series conveniently forgets or doesn't bring up Rory's possible trust funds from them when it would've otherwise solved some of her possible issues.
There's the little problem of Logan's family looking down on Rory and Logan not standing up to them.
I know! I certainly don't have the advantage of nepotism, but think about it. Your as big an actress as Meryl Streep, and your daughter comes to you and says "Mom, I wanna be an actress. Help me." You love your kid; what are you going to say "No, that's nepotism." No! Of course not, you love your kid, and you're going to help. That's why nepotism will always be with us.
Gilmore girls was a story that Rory will be her mother no matter how her life and upbringing is different from Lorelei's from beginning.
Which to me sounds like a terribly depressing message to send to people
@@natalyaporter5730 ^^^ Unfortunately it happens a lot
@@natalyaporter5730 I don't think it's a message? I think it's a character study. It's not a message on all of humanity, that all people will end up like their parents (I mean Lorelai is nothing like Emily, and Lane is nothing like Mrs. Kim, and Richard is nothing like Lorelai the First, etc.). It's a character study of Rory, and yes it's a depressing character study but it's specific to her experience.
It did end up being depressing
I personally dint feel depressing because Rory's privileges dint give her the encouragement that Lorelai had to make her life independent. Maybe this change might help her to see it. Also we audience get a conclusion indirectly indicates that Now Rory is new Lorelai and she ll end up happy.
One of the main things I always questioned was why Lorelai and Rory acted as if they were poor. They were most definitely in the upper class. They went shopping all the time, ate out all the time, etc. but acted like they were just so poor and bad off. And what I find even weirder is that Lorelai acted like she couldn’t afford to pay for Rory’s college tuition, which means she was irresponsible with her money and didn’t save up for something as important as tuition.
Two thing: they werent upper class but middle class and this was before 2008 hit.
LOL Can a hotel worker ever truly save up? Let alone for college? Or YALE/HARVARD/IVY LEAGUE??
Filling up the car with gas is saving at the moment lol
@@apriljasso9731Anytime they really needed anything Emily and Richard were just a call away.
In all fairness, the ivy leagues cost a tremendous amount of money. You really do have to be rich to shell out that kind of cash for four, maybe more, years.
The difference of fates between Paris and Rory is a good example of the saying 'Successful people are not the smartest but the most resilient.' Rory was constantly praised by her family, always being told how wonderful and perfect she was. And she had very little stuff to overcome: her public high school was a joke, the issues she had to adapt to Chilton are only at the beginning and covered in like, one episode, then it is ok and she even becomes valedictorian, somehow. For university, she eventually chose Yale, like her grandfather, and to stay close to her mother, which is a comfy choice.
Paris, on the other hand, lacked emotional support from her parents. The only time we see her mother, we saw she only thought about her reputation and did not take into account her daughter's needs, which was to be left alone mocked by the others. But also, when Paris asked for a Christmas tree, the mother made her watch Shoah. Her daughter's curiosity meets rejection. There is also the moment when her friends and her go to Chilton at night and get caught. Who comes to pick her up and lecture her? The freaking nanny. Clearly, the parents are absentees.
Yet there is still that Harvard family tradition. Paris mentions it, but we do not get to see the parents' take on it: we see no pressure, but no support either. And in the end, Yale was a good choice for her: she got to find her way by not following the family tradition. And in addition to that, she did not go to Princeton, where her boyfriend was, either, which emphasized the 'finding my path' concept. Moreover, through the entire show, characters' opinion on her is diverse. Feared and disliked by some because of her harshness, and admired by others for her hard-working state of mind, it suits what she really is.
Rory, on the contrary, is less being called out for her bad decisions. It happened, but very little time (Lindsay's mother telling her she ruined a marriage, Logan telling her to check her privileges...) but it had little impact on her. The most important call out was when she was down, basically it was 'get your shit together and move on' but she was not really scolded because of her flaws. Not like Paris. And even though Paris is probably too stubborn, Rory is not like that, she is supposed to be the nice gal.
But yeah, I agree this is not due to bad writing, but realistic depiction of real life. In many fictions, we see character development as improvement, but not often we get characters who change and become worse or failures. Rory can wear the Necessity hoodie.
Tbh I think Rory and Lorelai are both incredibly spoiled and selfish. Everyone around them just keeps saying they're always right and perfect and they think they matter more than other people. But I like that they are both flawed people. Makes them more realistic.
edit: Also, Mitchum was undeservingly villainized for not feeding Rory's fragile ego and introducing her to the real world.
Both are extremely privileged and it's difficult to take their money problems seriously when their takeaway order is literally every item on the menu.
@@rescatooor I think Luke gave them a lot of free food🤣
@@jennterry6977 Sure. But there was also all the Chinese food (that one episode where they say they actually order everything off the menu and make it sound like this is something they do on an irregular basis) and the pizzas. I mean Rory buys the "world's largest pizza" for Lorelai's birthday. What's missing is an episode revealing their friendship with Sookie is purely tactical to avoid ever having to cook a meal.
I am happy someone point out Lorelai is not that perfect either. Putting aside that she ignores her own privileges, she toy with people too much with her own "I am so charismatic, you find this abusing behavior so cute and nice". Luke is have to deal with her egocentric behavior all the time. Like when she keep retaining his truck when Rory go to Yale or returning it late. Or when he give up the house of his dreams because Lorelai don't want to leave her home and then he can't even bring his decorations. The good thing is that the show actually point out part of Lorelai problems. Is Emily who make her understand, telling her that in a relationship is not always about getting your way.
Michtum was righfully villainized. "You don't have it".What kind of feedback is that ? What is " It" ? How can she improve ? Maybe he was right hat something was missing but he was being intebtionally mean about it
This is the reason I love this show, it’s realistic to what actually happen to kids who are always told they are amazing. This is what really happens.
I feel like being called out 🤣
Exactly! I hate that people miss this part and fall for the lie the show builds up. We were all sold the lie of the perfect little girl then scolded her when she acted out... just like they did. It's annoying that people are literally missing the point (or part) of Rory's later storyline. Identity crisis' can make us do shitty things in order to find ourselves outside of a stereotype. She has no idea who she is.
@@selty aw, i like your comment
@@selty yes ofc the producers made Rory like this on purpose! That’s the whole point of the show. “Where you lead, I will follow” Lorelei definitely started as a Brat like Rory but her life turned around when she had to be a single teen mom and now Rory will have to do the same
@@covu4746 yeah same, I was always told I was better than other kids but I realize now that’s not a good way to be raised :/
I never understood why fans ended hating Rory so much. She is very realistic character. Her downfall is very relatable.
I agree with you, but we can say it is because her behaviour is seen as annoying, and that her evolution is not growth, but failure. The former easily makes a character disliked, the latter is a plausible possibility fans do not want to see in fiction because this is too harshly close to reality.
My impression was that Rory's problem consisted of the following: 1) giving up once she found adult life bewildering; and 2) subsequently allowing herself to become unmotivated. She started out being hard-working (not to mention a genuinely lovely girl overall)!
You have to wonder whether or not Rory would have wised up had *different* people come along in lieu of her grandparents.
The grandparents were definitely a bad influence. I think the schools can also be blamed for adding to the general "If you work hard and get good grades you will get ahead in life" bs.
As much as I love Lorelai, the way she is portrayed as the perfect mother really rubs me the wrong way. "Ever since she could crawl, I wanted her to go there..." Talk about pressure! And I hate how condescending she is to the men in her life who have kids (Christopher, Luke). I mean she raised one kid and suddenly she's the parenting expert. Maybe Rory being "perfect" didn't result from her parenting skills as much as from the lack of them (= the need to please others and not cause any more trouble to the already troubled teen mom). Again, I love Lorelai as a character, but she too should acknowledge that maybe her parenting style wasn't as great as she thinks it was.
Both Christopher and Luke went to Lorelai for parenting advice. She didn't just barge in the door and force it on them. Luke wanted Lorelai's help when Jess first arrived, and Christopher went to Lorelai about G.G. when his wife went MIA. April was an entirely different situation, and both her and Luke were warped so OOC in that mess of a storyline that it really doesn't even count.
Lorelei is also an oddity that no one else recognizes. She had the opportunities if she had behaved well as a teen and young adult. She needed to stop whining that she didn’t have those choices. Her parents had the money. Her parents wanted her to go to college. Yes, her parents were demanding. Instead of throwing it all away, maybe Lorelei could have stood up for herself instead of running away. She is her daughter’s role model.
Lorelai did behave like one crazy teenager so often...... her personality is very extra, I think Rory got lost in the dynamic..... which is ok, it's healthy enough to work it out. After having Emily and Richard as parents, i think their mother daughter love is something rare and beautiful
Her grandparents and especially her grandfather put a LOT of pressure on her.
Lorelai was just a fun loving Emily.
Lorelai put her dreams on Rory and wanted a life she had imagined in her head for Rory. Same as Emily.
When Rory dropped out Lorelai acted same as Emily would have.
I love that the show gave Rory a downfall, and this vid explains why so well. I related to Rory as a young gifted kid who skated by with ease and was constantly praised, and I relate to her now as a nearly 30-something who is directionless, failing to find work and far too easily discouraged by criticism.
When I watched the first season, Rory was the unattainable standard I wanted to achieve. She was everything I wasn't and also in a way, inspiring but also in many other ways annoying. The person I related to deeply was Paris and the episode where she didnt get into Harvard genuinely broke my heart.
Rory is the perfect example of good girl gone bad. She was everyone's favorite & assumed to have a perfect future yet ends up doing everything wrong once she enters real world.
I think this is an example of how damaging it can be to be brought up having everyone around you tell you how smart and amazing you are. They all meant well, but what happens is is that as soon as they realize they aren’t automatically the smartest, strongest, prettiest etc., their whole self-image and self-esteem fall apart. From what I’ve learned, resiliency doesn’t come naturally, it has to be taught. Unfortunately for Rory, no one properly taught her how to bounce back when things got rough.
I don’t it can be taught, possibility of learning from a wide range of experiences perhaps. It’s like a common sense isn’t common type of thing. And 💯 the enabling, and praise is very bad in the long run.
One of Rorys major problems was her grandparents interference.
Whenever Lorelai put her foot down, her granparents would undermine Lorelai and agree with Rory, and would swoop in and fix things so she never learned to fix things herself. Until the revival as Emily was too consumed with grief.
That has everything to do with lorelai’s unfinished business with her parents. They used Rory as a bargaining chip to score points against one another and to get what they wanted in their relationships with each other.
As we can see , rory did actually acknowledge that she was way too praised by the people in her life and that she thought way too much of herself, but then her mom denies all that and tells her that she’s gonna figure it out cause she’s “ rory” and that’s what rory always does : figure things out and do her best , which was the case till she met the real world when she started going to yale which was clearly hard for her but the idea that everyone printed in her head that she’ll always figure her problems out and fix them even when she can’t is what made her become a failing person.
It’s like she always had to do everything the people in her life expected her to do , especially her mom cause she didn’t want her to become like “her” which is exactly why she turned out worse, she had too much expectations from the people in her life that she couldn’t reach and that made her break and fall , cause she is “rory” the prodigy who was supposed to always accomplish what’s expected from her and they made her believe that it was absolutely impossible that she would one day fail
"You're quiet, you say 'excuse me', you look like little birds help you get dressed in the morning, people don't fear you!" i genuinely loved paris
I grew up with Gilmore girls. I mean, my mom watched it pregnant with me, and on we watched it nearly every year and the older I got, the more I realized I hate Rory. Her entire personality in the first seasons just paled in comparison to Lorelei. Then a year in the life came out, I was not surprised. I’m so glad to see the title of this video.
@Erwin Lii yes. Rory was really cruel when she grew up. I also believe Lorelie owned up to mistakes while Rory didn't
Lorelai was always my favorite character
@sfasdf asfasdfasdf There's being human and then there's being a greedy robot
Honestly Paris and Jess were the best part of this show
Just which Jess are we talking about? Season 2 Jess? Or season 6 Jess? Because those are two very different persons. Season 2 Jess was a jerk and an ass, and rude to everyone who was not Rory. Season 6 Jess however was a great charecter and had evolved a huge deal, and became someone we really like
@@LouiseAndersen1991 I think he always was a great character, not a great “person”. He was entertaining, he had a backstory, and I loved to see his scenes with Luke
Season 6 jess because he has truly changed and evolved and I truly love that scene where he tells rory that she's wasting her life away by dropping out of college jess is way to good for rory to me at this point even though I would love for them to be together 🤔😀🤠😠😡🤬
And Kirk.
@@LouiseAndersen1991 Jess improved. He had a difficut time growing up. Yes, he was kind of a jerk, but made a constant effort to improve and it paid off.
She was definitely missing some Luke - energy in her upbringing. A strong and stable person who knows where he stands, is fait and takes responsibility. Luke was helping his father and started working early, afterwards supported his sister and her lost kid. He qas the only one worrying about Jess who might have been hurt in the car accident and was proud of his successes but in the same time critical of his missing school
Right? Luke was awesome and the biggest reason why Jess ended up getting it together. Unfortunately, he, too, saw Rory as being perfect, to the point where he said Jess wasn't good enough for her (this after the guy began to turn his life around; before that, no, Jess could not be in a healthy relationship with anyone) so...there you go.
Rory was a gifted kid, the trajectory was accurate. The world is full of gifted people and when you realize you're not the only one most gifted kids fall apart.
Ok but how did you know I'm watching this show for the 100 time again right now?
I just finished randomly watching the show and the limited series like... Earlier this week... The take is stalking us.
Me and my daughter loved it. After the cheating episode. And the way it was handled. As if NOTHING happened. We could not stomach it anymore.
@@ntavares540 But that isn't the case. The cheating ruined the marriage of Dean, for example. Things happened.
@@ntavares540 the first time that I watched Gilmore Girls, I could watch past that.
@@Antonia-hp5gg Exactly. It was cruel. What I mean is that, in a small community like the one in the show, there was no backlash, no gossip, no nothing, no one got mad. And Lorelai went in a double date with them! I told my daughter, they scripted the whole thing as if Rory was not a person in that town, but their favorite CHARACTER. So disgusting.
As teenagers we all wanted to be like rory. In our 30s, we are happy we are nothing like her.
@sfasdf asfasdfasdf she didn't grow as a character. She might be 30 now be she has not changed one bit. That's not being human and imperfect, it's refusing to take responsibility and maturing.
@@TheEmeraldLady y’all are getting way too worked up over a character that is non existent in real life. It’s not that deep lmao
@sfasdf asfasdfasdf Projecting much? It’s a show...
The problem with both Lorelei and Rory: they didn't really know what they wanted. They knew what they didn't want to.
While Rory may have been likable in the beginning, it kinda makes sense that she would end up being as entitled as she was- think about it, she grew up in a place where everyone kissed her ass constantly, the people of stars hollow were OBSESSED with her to the point where it was creepy as hell- always hovering over her asking about her studies, her love life and talking about her like she was gonna be bigger than beyonce lol
Very true