Two big problems with the CineBack: - The two cages, you picked, both obstruct the EF filter adapter, so lens and filter adapter have to be removed, if you want to change filters. Had you gone with the Kondor Blue R5 C Cine cage, the filter adapter would have been clear. - You covered over the multifunction hotshoe. This should be opened up, so that either the Tascam XLR adapter can be used or at least the multifunction relocation cable can be installed. The way it is now, it's going to be a no go for me.
yeah - great points. When I get mine, I'm going look into how I can mod the top plate for the XLR adapter, but now seeing the bad comments about that adapter I might switch to the Zoom F3 since it seems more evergreen and that can easily be mounted to the top plate. I just got up the Titla cage for CineBack and I don't mind it, but I also have the Kondor Blue cage mainly to solve for that EF adapter clearance. I'll see if the KB cage fits (I doubt it b/c it is barely taller than the Tilta)
I suspect (though am not certain) it may be due to the monitor with cineback is still able to pivot and twist around to different positions, where as the monitor on the pxyis is fixed where it is
I'm missing a few things in this design. First and foremost, a solid protection for ports like USB-C and Micro HDMI. It would also be great to allocate space for additional accessories that would turn the R5C into a true cinematic beast, such as: -An adapter from Micro HDMI to HDMI + SDI (e.g., the Micro Converter 12G from Blackmagic). -A slot for inserting a Tentacle Sync E for timecode. Currently, unlocking the full potential of the camera creates a huge mess with all the cables and accessories. However, if these elements could be seamlessly integrated, keeping everything organized, it would be amazing. Another great feature would be to have a section of the top plate that can be easily removed with a few screws, providing access to the multifunctional plate. And if it were compatible with Kondor Blue, I’d order the pro version right away!
This looks great. I just hope to see a cineback for either the Sony ZV-E1, Nikon Z8, or the Fujifilm X-H2. I would love to have all three but any one of them would be great.
Hi, pretty interesting kit for this camera. The main issue with the R5C (I own one) is the lack of built-in ND filters… If you do not need 8k, I would suggest you to go for the C80 from the same brand.
Legit will be ordering as soon as available!!! Thank you for creating this! We need pictures or video of this thing fully rigged out! Pls fully rig in the future.
Interesting design! Just have a couple suggestions after watching your video. Allen or torx fasteners for side pieces vs Philips would be a lot nicer. A cheese plate option for the rear of the unit for those of us that have a v mount or gold mount plate already. A hidden dtap inside the door area. Not on the door, just directly behind the camera so one could choose to plug in there for power from a dummy battery etc and hide the cable. A 3.5mm audio jack to XLR solution would be a nice upsell add on. Think wooden camera A box or similar. A flatter side door with some more 1/4-20’s.
It reminds me of an article I saw about a rental house who made a similar cine-style box for the Fuji GFX100 II, but I don't believe theirs was for sale. I'd really like to see how you would go about rigging it up with a top handle, a monitor, shotgun mic, maybe a HDMI transmitter, etc and then using it in a shoot. I have a C70, not an R5C or anything, but I still think it looks pretty cool.
@@backyardwindowI had to stop relying on mine due to same issue. I ended up rigging a chest mount Zoom F8n rig with a Smallrig VM50, case, and wireless radios for more capabilities. And an attached shotgun mic and wireless TX to send to the R5c. And a pair of Tentacle Sync E!
@@backyardwindow once i figured out to never plug in or remove the XLR unit while the camera is on, or incorrectly send phantom power to something like a rode wireless mic, or plug in/unplug a phantom powered shotgun mic from channel 1, I havent had any issues in over a year and a half.
Nice review and product. Some D tap cables will allow you to reverse d tap connector so you can have cable coming in from positive or negative side. I just had to do that with my Alvin's D tap to dummy battery cable. But haveing an option to rotate the at whole plate is awesome.
Will it be compatible with the new canon R5 mark ii? Since the body size has not changed much from the original R5, I assume it gonna work but will see.
I'm so glad Caleb designed one of these for the R5C! Does anyone know if CineBack for the R5C will work with SmallRig's Black Mamba cage? The reason I ask is because the Black Mamba cage incorporates the SmallRig micro-HDMI to Full-HDMI adapter better I think than the Tilta cage.
@@BryanWilkatim setting up now and the and you do not need the adapter for the black mambe cage, there is a slight gap but the screws fit perfect and hold tight 👍🏾
Wow just saw this 4 hrs after the video, super excited, went to e website to order and it’s out of stock (out of stock 4 hrs after vid drops) Any idea when you may have more available?
Can you make available a different site cheese plate for the canon r5 or r6. Like a shorter cheese plate to close the gap and make the lcd fit better in the side slot?
Will This work with the Canon R5II? I am waiting for tilta or smallrig to come out with a cage for my R5markii but would love to rig it up with cineback. I love my cineback for my FX3 but would love to get this one as well!
does it work with the black mamba cage from smallrig ? It looks so amazing. thanks for making it. Could you make a Rig build with a monitor and TX RX system with the cinnebag and R5C , maybe just a monitor..Something Atomos ninja V or something ? That system solve the biggest problem I have with my R5C.. the battery
correct me if i'm wrong: the two compatible cages you'd mentioned only mount to the camera via the threaded holes on the bottom? is there no other point of contact that's secured to the camera directly?
But after adding that it seems you will now have problems mounting it on a gimbal and using tilta float to smooth out your video. Whereas without it, gimbal use and tilta float can be used. How will you stabilize the video when moving with camera using CineBack??
Hi would the Black Mamba” Camera Cage for Canon EOS R5 C fit this rig that cage for the R5C has an extended base plate that i have been running with for a while would love to keep that cage if i can
Is possible to replace the plastic (3D printed) element? As an environmental documentary film maker, even more plastic in the environment is disappointing. However, great design and idea.
Looks good. When Canon cameras get pro features for video such as raw video in 4K 120p at 12 bit or 14 bit raw, this kind of a config will look very enticing for the small budget film crews. Crews with more talent than budget. Until then, we have Arri Alexa’s with 12bit 120p.
Two big problems with the CineBack:
- The two cages, you picked, both obstruct the EF filter adapter, so lens and filter adapter have to be removed, if you want to change filters. Had you gone with the Kondor Blue R5 C Cine cage, the filter adapter would have been clear.
- You covered over the multifunction hotshoe. This should be opened up, so that either the Tascam XLR adapter can be used or at least the multifunction relocation cable can be installed.
The way it is now, it's going to be a no go for me.
Some great points even if i am not a fan of Kondor Blue products!
multifunction relocation cable????
@@AReallyBigDay Look up Canon OC-E4A Multi-function Cord.
yeah - great points. When I get mine, I'm going look into how I can mod the top plate for the XLR adapter, but now seeing the bad comments about that adapter I might switch to the Zoom F3 since it seems more evergreen and that can easily be mounted to the top plate. I just got up the Titla cage for CineBack and I don't mind it, but I also have the Kondor Blue cage mainly to solve for that EF adapter clearance. I'll see if the KB cage fits (I doubt it b/c it is barely taller than the Tilta)
Im not understanding how this would prevent you from using an ef adapter? doesnt look like it wouldnt fit. what am I missing?
I don’t even have a Canon R5C but this is gorgeous
me too
its weird how everyone loves a side monitor on the cineback but hate the side monitor on the pyxis
I suspect (though am not certain) it may be due to the monitor with cineback is still able to pivot and twist around to different positions, where as the monitor on the pxyis is fixed where it is
@@Midland1072ProductionsThats exactly the reason, idk how this person can make a statement like that when the reason is clear lol
Wow this is really clever. I like the side monitor slot.
I'm missing a few things in this design.
First and foremost, a solid protection for ports like USB-C and Micro HDMI.
It would also be great to allocate space for additional accessories that would turn the R5C into a true cinematic beast, such as:
-An adapter from Micro HDMI to HDMI + SDI (e.g., the Micro Converter 12G from Blackmagic).
-A slot for inserting a Tentacle Sync E for timecode.
Currently, unlocking the full potential of the camera creates a huge mess with all the cables and accessories. However, if these elements could be seamlessly integrated, keeping everything organized, it would be amazing.
Another great feature would be to have a section of the top plate that can be easily removed with a few screws, providing access to the multifunctional plate.
And if it were compatible with Kondor Blue, I’d order the pro version right away!
Finally a Cineback for a camera that actually needs it. Might have to put in an order.
Cineback's are about to be on everyone's camera 🙌🏼
the rotatable DTAP just small detail but will be so useful for some people
One slight missed opportunity was an integrated Timecode BNC port to break out the micro BNC on the camera, that would be an over the top addition.
This looks great. I just hope to see a cineback for either the Sony ZV-E1, Nikon Z8, or the Fujifilm X-H2. I would love to have all three but any one of them would be great.
I get mine on Saturday. Can't wait!
Hi, pretty interesting kit for this camera. The main issue with the R5C (I own one) is the lack of built-in ND filters… If you do not need 8k, I would suggest you to go for the C80 from the same brand.
This, like all the other versions, is really well done! Excellent job on these!
Legit will be ordering as soon as available!!! Thank you for creating this! We need pictures or video of this thing fully rigged out! Pls fully rig in the future.
Is also in Ali express for way cheaper
I was just checking out CineBack for the R5C and was disappointed to not see anything. Really cool that this dropped! Looks amazing.
So are you going to do a V2 of the FX3 one since you came up with all these little improvements?
Interesting design! Just have a couple suggestions after watching your video. Allen or torx fasteners for side pieces vs Philips would be a lot nicer. A cheese plate option for the rear of the unit for those of us that have a v mount or gold mount plate already. A hidden dtap inside the door area. Not on the door, just directly behind the camera so one could choose to plug in there for power from a dummy battery etc and hide the cable. A 3.5mm audio jack to XLR solution would be a nice upsell add on. Think wooden camera A box or similar. A flatter side door with some more 1/4-20’s.
It reminds me of an article I saw about a rental house who made a similar cine-style box for the Fuji GFX100 II, but I don't believe theirs was for sale. I'd really like to see how you would go about rigging it up with a top handle, a monitor, shotgun mic, maybe a HDMI transmitter, etc and then using it in a shoot. I have a C70, not an R5C or anything, but I still think it looks pretty cool.
It would awesome if you made this for the grip camera cages as well for verticle shooters and especially when you guys make it for the r5mkii
Ordered this instantly. Thanks for making this.
I have been waiting and waiting and checking and checking, and it is finally here for my beloved camera. Can wait to put my order in.
Very cool design. I’m interested in buying this. Is the multifunction hot shoe relocation cable compatible with this cage?
I don't have this camera yet, i really love how it looks with the cage
Could you make a version that lets you use the multi-function hot shoe for use with the Tascam XLR Module?
If this was still compatible with the Tascam xlr module, I would order this instantly.
Facts even better if i could somehow use the xlr module and a top handle but that maybe asking for too much 😭😭😭
Does your XLR module work reliably? I have a few of them and they all cut out sometimes. I stopped counting on mine
@@backyardwindowI had to stop relying on mine due to same issue. I ended up rigging a chest mount Zoom F8n rig with a Smallrig VM50, case, and wireless radios for more capabilities. And an attached shotgun mic and wireless TX to send to the R5c. And a pair of Tentacle Sync E!
@@backyardwindow once i figured out to never plug in or remove the XLR unit while the camera is on, or incorrectly send phantom power to something like a rode wireless mic, or plug in/unplug a phantom powered shotgun mic from channel 1, I havent had any issues in over a year and a half.
Nice! Thank for your work
Make one for fujifilm XH2s please!!!
As soon as it becomes available will put and order in. Genius level mod. Thankyou!
That is badass, I can't wait for it to be back in stock!
I’m thinking about getting a used R5C and I’ll keep this in mind.
i need this asap!!! ...i should probably buy an r5c first but...i neeeed it!!!
Get it, Caleb! Keep 'em comin!
Definitely interested. When will it be back in stock on the website?
Nice review and product. Some D tap cables will allow you to reverse d tap connector so you can have cable coming in from positive or negative side. I just had to do that with my Alvin's D tap to dummy battery cable. But haveing an option to rotate the at whole plate is awesome.
Nice! Do they have one for the c70?
I know those hands from anywhere… great product
Will it be compatible with the new canon R5 mark ii? Since the body size has not changed much from the original R5, I assume it gonna work but will see.
Will the upcoming LUMIX S5IIX cineback have that cool coverup door also?
I'm so glad Caleb designed one of these for the R5C! Does anyone know if CineBack for the R5C will work with SmallRig's Black Mamba cage? The reason I ask is because the Black Mamba cage incorporates the SmallRig micro-HDMI to Full-HDMI adapter better I think than the Tilta cage.
I would also like to know this. Caleb? ...Anyone?
@@BryanWilkatim setting up now and the and you do not need the adapter for the black mambe cage, there is a slight gap but the screws fit perfect and hold tight 👍🏾
Can't wait for the Lumix version 😉
I mean this looks like an amazing idea BUT... how are we to use the hotshoe for audio?
I would love to have a slot for Video Transmission like the cvw Crystal Video Pro 200. Maybe in a later version :P
Wow just saw this 4 hrs after the video, super excited, went to e website to order and it’s out of stock (out of stock 4 hrs after vid drops) Any idea when you may have more available?
Amazing, can’t wait to get one!!!
Hey Caleb this is great! Any intention on eventually making a GH6/7 unit?
🔥🔥🔥🔥. I love it. But by any chance is there a way to come up with a alternative design that allows the use of the tascam audio module?
Awesome now make one for the gh5s!
Need that Vanity Door on the FX3 Cineback 2... 🙏🏼🎥
still holding out hope for a ZV-E10 (or ZV-E10 ii, idk how similar that cages would be for one to be compatible with both) version
Looks great. Really looking forward to the Fuji X-H2(S) version coming!
That USBC cable used, there is no link? Can you provide one.
Can you make available a different site cheese plate for the canon r5 or r6. Like a shorter cheese plate to close the gap and make the lcd fit better in the side slot?
Would love one for the C70
Will This work with the Canon R5II? I am waiting for tilta or smallrig to come out with a cage for my R5markii but would love to rig it up with cineback. I love my cineback for my FX3 but would love to get this one as well!
Ai jai jai - this is sick!
Please develop one for the Lumix 5IIX
Thank you :D
This is perfect. I’ve got two tilta cages for mine 😂
Wish these came with a arca Swiss at the bottom and a nato at the top to easily take out the camera so I can throw it on a gimbal
does it work with the black mamba cage from smallrig ?
It looks so amazing. thanks for making it.
Could you make a Rig build with a monitor and TX RX system with the cinnebag and R5C , maybe just a monitor..Something Atomos ninja V or something ?
That system solve the biggest problem I have with my R5C.. the battery
Can you remove the top plate over the multi-function hotshoe and use the Tascam Audio module??
There is no additional information on cage and CB compatibility in the description unfortunately.
When are tou making the A1 series?
I would love an s5ii version
correct me if i'm wrong: the two compatible cages you'd mentioned only mount to the camera via the threaded holes on the bottom? is there no other point of contact that's secured to the camera directly?
you be making this compatible with the kondor blue cage or 8sinn cage?
But after adding that it seems you will now have problems mounting it on a gimbal and using tilta float to smooth out your video. Whereas without it, gimbal use and tilta float can be used. How will you stabilize the video when moving with camera using CineBack??
Mines just came in ❤❤❤❤
Any plans for the R7???
Damn, sold out already. Nice job, Caleb!
does this mean we close to getting a cineback for canon c70?
Hi would the Black Mamba” Camera Cage for Canon EOS R5 C fit this rig that cage for the R5C has an extended base plate that i have been running with for a while would love to keep that cage if i can
Is possible to replace the plastic (3D printed) element? As an environmental documentary film maker, even more plastic in the environment is disappointing. However, great design and idea.
I wish the dtap port was on magnet's instead of screws to flip it without taking the screws out.
Should this work with R5 mark II?
Can someone post a link of the site, camera finder?
Oh im buying this immediately
Will it work with the canon R6II?
Looks good. When Canon cameras get pro features for video such as raw video in 4K 120p at 12 bit or 14 bit raw, this kind of a config will look very enticing for the small budget film crews. Crews with more talent than budget. Until then, we have Arri Alexa’s with 12bit 120p.
your Ring is amazing I will love a link to it too! hahaha off topic.
How cumbersome is it to access the menu button? Can your left thumb get to it or do you need to use a finger to push it?
does it support half cages
Hi Caleb - I am trying to buy this now BUT I can't find Thailand on the list of available countries - what's going on there? Please help!
Can this be used with the moffage poco rf to pl adapter?
Does anyone know if this would work with a regular Canon R as they have similar dimensions?
Hello. I was just wondering if you can do for dslr 600D or 700D
Do you think it works with a Canon R8 too?
This kit has been out of stock for a while now. Don’t think it’ll ever be in stock
Is it compatible with the Canon R5 Mark II
IS that RS4 pro compatible? How about one for Kondor Blue cage?
is it compatible with the r6 mark ii
can you use a drop in filter adpter of RF to EF
Can someone answer me if it works with smallrig black mamba cage for canon R5 mark1?
Is this compatible with Condor Blue cage for R5C?
Pleaseeeee make a fuji xh2s version
How about the eos r5ii ,it will fit?
SOOOOO AWESOME!!!
And I’m over here tryna make my A1 setups as small and inconspicuous as I can.
Will the R8 fit in this?
How was I not aware that you had this camera... I swear TH-cam is hiding my subscription feed for some people
Oh wait you don't have the R5C. Weird that I read that in the title and thought you did.
But it cuts off access to the smart hot shoe though. I use it with my Tascam
It also doesn't address the 8k60fps battery issue
@@CallMeRabbitzUSVII thought the dtap to usb did that
@@Kxngbxnyliterally lol
will there be a cineback for the a6700?
Just in time for me to sell my R5c for a C400 😂. If I don’t upgrade I’m getting this.
Gold Mount Please!