I fly a R22 in Australia and muster cattle with it at a property in the Northern Territory only thing with the Robinson design is in certain circumstances you can cause a negative G mast bump and cut your tail boom off with the main rotor blades a pilot a few years ago did this at the station I work on did this while mustering and didn’t make it
@@Paradoxical124 with insurance inspections ,fuel,parts etc it’s about $620 Aussie dollars a hr as they are getting old we have 9 R22’s and 4 R44’s and a new R66 which has turbine engine
I'm working on a single seat experimental here in OZ. Should handle similar to an md500, or a little better. Next will be a two seat diesel that handles similar to an md500.
I got my private single engine VFR in 1976, it cost me a little under $2,000. Using a Cessna 150 ($15 / hr. ). The instructor was $12 / hr. A 172 was $22 / hr. A Ramco champ (Old cloth wing, tail dragger) cost was only $12 / hr. I learn how to fly a T-34 Beechcraft (old Navy trainer, retractable, variable pitch prop, around 220 knots) at $40 / hr. I was 16 at the time just working in a restaurant bussing tables. It took me close to a year to get my VFR.
@@matthew-oc5oe Bro didn't buy the helicopter, he rented it per his hourly figures. Big difference. 16 yr olds today could do the same thing. It costs 10x as much, but they probably make 10x as much as Larry did.
Ater paying for all our life's expenses we have about $1000 per month left over. Thats with no children and only one kitty. We are relatively well off in terms of vehicles, and toys, but lower income for the area. Most apartments nearby are $3000+ per month and more like $4000 when you pay for parking and utilities. Paying $25,000 to get a pilots license eats up more than 2 years of our monthly income surplus or fudge room in our budget, but what if one of the cars needs a repair? I save and invest the extra we save to multiply the earnings a little bit faster than inflation eats away the value of the currency (USD2024 or Dollars)
Spent around 15,000 hours in turbine helicopters. The cost was astronomical. Back in the 80’s we factored in $350,000 a year for maintenance and operation. (search and rescue choppers take a beating). That’s 1980s money. We burned through 2 Hughes 500s and 3 Bell long rangers in a decade.
@@MajorCaliber Ha! When I began flying, 1986, the Bell 206 was the trainer. Not as many opportunities in my area to train in turbine aircraft. Many R44's around here for training
Great video, just a few things you forgot to mention is that with Robinson, it’s 2200hrs OR 12 years. Meaning you can buy new. Fly 100 hours over 12 years and now your basically brand new helicopter needs a complete overhaul. And that any $60000 R22 will either be timed out or nearly timed out. That said you are right in that it is still the cheapest certified helicopter. Cheers man stay safe
Over the years, I’ve had the opportunity to shoot video and still photography from the R22, Hughes 300 and Bell 47. I loved them all, particularly the Bell. But then as a fixed wing pilot I’m enamored with anything that flies, regardless of whether the wings are fixed or spin. What types of commercial work do you do?
I know nothing about helicopters and you couldn't pay me to ever fly in one but the engineering to make one fly is amazing and your presentation was to the point and gave me a great appreciation on the subject, thanks !!
Thank you for posting and kudos to you for trusting such thin tubing. It obviously works given how many are out there, but as a Bell Medium guy, you'd never convince me to ride in one. Regardless, respect to "one of us"!❤
Most likely family money. Not trying to say he's spoiled, but if he bought this with only his earned money before becoming a pilot, then I don't think he'll be changing careers I can tell you that if he's making that much money. Edit: So I found out the helicopter is owned by Time Kepp with "Sky River Helicopters" which is a helicopter tour company. I'm guessing it's being leased right now but that's TBD.
I am just a private pilot fixed wing. Cessna 150 then 172 currently 182 . I would more than likely kill myself in a helicopter, they are too unforgiving when mistakes are made. But my hats off to you and your Helicopter fly high Sir
I think the proper definition would have been ‘it’s a sandbar’. Years when I flew out of Creve Couer and Spirit, a bunch of the Cub pilots used to fly the Missouri and land on the sandbars.
@@Stormspotter911as soon as he said the only way on the island was by boat or heli, I immediately thought of the boys out in Alaska & BC landing on sandbars 🫡
In Europe and in the UK prices are higher to own one of them. And R22 takes just one passenger so they are great for training but not much for commercial use. Then you need the R44 that costs more. I also considered buying one but I find Porsches more fun still and more usable fun.
We use to use R22 for detailed lidar flights for topography. Now we have drones. Although our drones cost more, better end product using an iPad. Actual flight time was much better though.
First, I love watching your videos. Hamburger in a helicopter. Retiring school resource officer... in a helicopter. Cruising for a bruising... in a helicopter. Pretty cool. Depending on where you are, time-building can be challenging. Often a lifestyle change (that means "pack your stuff up and move") is more economical and easier than purchasing a helicopter. But hey. I love your videos. They remind me of a dream I once had. Keep living the dream! Ehud FAA Commercial pilot - rotorcraft Tucson, Arizona (Yes, in the summer DA is 5000-7000ft)
Small experimental home built airplanes cost around $20K for the kit, engine, and under FAR103 no pilots license or sports license required, but the aircraft weight limit of 254lbs, which means very thin aluminum, fabric coated, or very thin pre-preg carbon in Teflon vacuum bags on molds into a large enough pressure cooker *autoclave* // thankfully some of the kits supply nearly everything that bolts together like an erecter set, nuts and bolts with cotter pins safety so they don't unscrew and come undone causing parts to disconnect midflight. Fokker Mark VIII kit less than $8000 with everything needed. 1 seater, so a sky toy, but that is the cheapest thing I can find other than a used paramotor.
The only way to get to the most remote spots is by hiking or canoe. On many areas like the BWCA aircraft or motorized vehicles of any kind are not allowed.
It depends if you’re operating within controlled airspace. If you’re in uncontrolled airspace it is good practice to make periodic calls on the local area frequency. Usually this includes aircraft callsign, location, altitude, track and destination.
One such thing interesting to make a note “view” . Glad you got one for yourself & Appreciate your work to inspire to have one though.God bless you 😇🙏🏻
Easily get there on that particular sandbar with a Supercub and many other airplanes. That being said, I appreciate your video. I'm interested in adding a rotorwing aircraft and license to my fleet and certificates.
Private pilot with about ~80ish hours in Robinsons (mix of 22 and 44 but mostly 22 time). Thanks for the breakdown, looks more or less close to what I have been seeing here in NC. Rather than going with a 22 I am considering buying a 44 and renting it to our school so it makes some money while I am not flying it and it doubles as a time builder for when I am. I love flying the 22, it's what I usually fly due to how cheap it is per hour compared to the 44 but I would love to buy a used 44 and see if I can get to 1000 hours with it without breaking the bank. How many hours do you have left on that R22 before it needs a major overhaul? Just curious. It's a sweet bird and looks in mint condition. Cheers from Raleigh, NC!
It's actually a lot cheaper than i thought tbh. Pretty cool that it's possible to do this if you're motivated and interested enough. Price of watching Matty do it on TH-cam: free. 😎
Just for people that would like to know. If you want to get both Privet Pilot License (PPL) for airplane (Fixed Wing) and Helicopter (Rotor Wing) then get the airplane first because it can help cut combined cost because 20 hours of your fixed wing counts toward your rotor wing.
I wanted to learn here in the uk prices are much higher and not doable for me unless i sold my house and lived in the heli lol. Had a trial lesson though and loved it. But in reality i get my kicks from motorcycles, embt and drone racing and enjoy life. If i ever come into serious money though i know id be getting into a heli.
You could go for gyro copters which are a lot cheaper in all respects or, like me, you could fly a paramotor which is almost the same sensation but costs about $1500 to learn, *10k for the wing and paramotor and then about $10 for gas for about 3 hours of flight. My paramotor easily fits in the back of my car when transporting it or somewhere in my garage when storing it. I'll admit it's not the safest form of flight but it is exhilarating and doesn't break the bank.
There is a counter rotating backpack harness style helicopter ultralight that varies the speed of one or the other rotor to vector control steering without a tail-rotor, like some RC toys. I remember an electric model from Japan that was $6000, but could only fly for about 5 minutes before juicing the battery pack, known as a short hop device. Furthermore, electric car shaped quad rotor like Ehang 184, but kits, using commercial drone motors on all 4 corners like wheels on a car, varying the speed of the motors to control lift and vector steering, pitch, yaw and roll. Look up DIY personal flight devices or DIY flying machines.
I owned one of the early R22s when they cost $90k plus and you flew it home from California. Insurance was $10k per year with a $10k deductible. I learned in a Bell47d, a very stable platform. The R22 is much harder to fly and much harder to do autorotations in. Little boys, little toys. It was fun when I was doing it but you aren’t going far in an R22. Nice video.
So... at current prices for trucks, cars, SUV's... the 60k-100k range is normal/reasonable. Then maintenance,cost per ownership year... VERY reasonable especially if you're getting work returns commercially or even privately. Thanks for the share!
Don't forget about composite-fx/mosquitos! They are FAA regulated helicopters. Only caveat is that they only seat one person. Cool people, made in Trenton, Florida!
Honestly inshurance is deal breaker. But assuming that all of inshurances all together went sky rocketing then hopefully prices will went down a bit. Other that is actually not expensive if you can buy yourself a nice piece up until 100k
Without getting too personal, are you independently wealthy? I'm 50 and recently took a check ride in a 22. I was planning on doing the same.thing and getting my private pilots license. It was fun and I would love to do it and could justify the costof getting my license, but I'm prob too old to try it to make a career out of it and the cost Is prohibitive to get the recommended hours before any company would hire you. You have youth on your side.... .My son wants to fly helos, so he is going to go to college thru ROTC and try to go thru Army Avation route. Good luck and happy flying. At least we can live vicariously thru you😅
I spent maybe around $80-90,000 getting all of my helicopter ratings up to CFII. I get paid to build my flight time as a flight instructor. There will never be cheaper nor faster way of building flight time in a helicopter. But I have to admit, your method does seem like a ton of fun!
So i have a question….. what do you do when your Airframe reaches 12k hours? Which for most trainers that are in the market is where your under 100k price point is….. Also you forgot to mention that you have to go to Robbinson to train before you can own one….. which is pretty standard. Also your forgetting your biggest cost which is to insure you and it……. Great video but that’s a big expense not to mention, also I believe for you to even be insurable , you have to have X number of hours in type. Which you can do in training but still at 489 dollars an hour wet….. what r we doing?
If I understand your reference to depreciation of $63/hr, do you mean after 2200 hours (the TBO? or airframe useful life?) it costs $138K to go through the bird and zero the time? A little googling I did says you can reman the motor and go through the rest of the bird... replace rotor blades, etc. and keep it airworthy... so is that ~$138K?
Back in 1973 there were always a few adults taking separate classes at the Civil Air Patrol meetings. As a new member I asked. "They joined the CAP last month, there getting certified for a private pilot licence.". I said Oh cool, typical 7th grader response. "Bet your ass Cool,There getting it for Free". I wonder if they still offer it. Interested parties should check it out.
Thankyou for the video. I am more interested on how to get the turbine certification process. Plus, is there any difference in certification for a single turbine engine (R66) v/s a twin Turbine engine (Bell 429)and others like them.
That's not an issue, Mostly insurance requirements Certificate is good for everything rotary wing under 12,500 lbs . . . Piston or Turbine , Single or Twin - US No type rating , Some countries require a rating in each type ie: R-22, R-22 Standard, R-22 Hp, R-22 Alpha, R-22 Beta and Mariner . US you can fly all of them, In Japan you'll need a type rating in each,
Getting your fixed wont be super effective for getting roto, its a different skillset other than the map and radio stuff which. everything mechanical is different from how you do eyes out of the cockpit.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$ out of my league for sure!!! Enjoy - you obviously work very hard for that experience. That's a boat load of money to just fly around and see things from the air. Now if you are fishing from that sand bar then you could call it an expensive boat.
Im so glad i was directed to your channel a few months ago. Enjoy both you and your content. Thanks.
I fly a R22 in Australia and muster cattle with it at a property in the Northern Territory only thing with the Robinson design is in certain circumstances you can cause a negative G mast bump and cut your tail boom off with the main rotor blades a pilot a few years ago did this at the station I work on did this while mustering and didn’t make it
How much does that cost you to operate hourly?
@@Paradoxical124 with insurance inspections ,fuel,parts etc it’s about $620 Aussie dollars a hr as they are getting old we have 9 R22’s and 4 R44’s and a new R66 which has turbine engine
@@mrbigw100 I’m Australian too, and I am looking into using something like a small Robinson for personal use. Thanks for the insight!
I'm working on a single seat experimental here in OZ. Should handle similar to an md500, or a little better. Next will be a two seat diesel that handles similar to an md500.
Also check the accident rate of Robinson helicopters...
I got my private single engine VFR in 1976, it cost me a little under $2,000. Using a Cessna 150 ($15 / hr. ). The instructor was $12 / hr.
A 172 was $22 / hr.
A Ramco champ (Old cloth wing, tail dragger) cost was only $12 / hr.
I learn how to fly a T-34 Beechcraft (old Navy trainer, retractable, variable pitch prop, around 220 knots)
at $40 / hr.
I was 16 at the time just working in a restaurant bussing tables. It took me close to a year to get my VFR.
Yup nowadays the economy is so bad
Bro bought a helicopter at 16 bussing tables and kids these days can’t even afford rent 💀
@@matthew-oc5oe Bro didn't buy the helicopter, he rented it per his hourly figures. Big difference. 16 yr olds today could do the same thing. It costs 10x as much, but they probably make 10x as much as Larry did.
Try 100x as much. Kids can't afford it unless they saved for 5 years assuming they can save 20k a year which likely isn't possible.
Ater paying for all our life's expenses we have about $1000 per month left over. Thats with no children and only one kitty. We are relatively well off in terms of vehicles, and toys, but lower income for the area. Most apartments nearby are $3000+ per month and more like $4000 when you pay for parking and utilities. Paying $25,000 to get a pilots license eats up more than 2 years of our monthly income surplus or fudge room in our budget, but what if one of the cars needs a repair? I save and invest the extra we save to multiply the earnings a little bit faster than inflation eats away the value of the currency (USD2024 or Dollars)
As small as the helicopter is, it's still a lot of money
That's a rich man's game. But it looks like a tone of fun.
Goid sibg working 9 too 5 working day nit Gering any ware
Thanks for sharing! Very interesting!
Glad you enjoyed!
Spent around 15,000 hours in turbine helicopters. The cost was astronomical. Back in the 80’s we factored in $350,000 a year for maintenance and operation. (search and rescue choppers take a beating). That’s 1980s money. We burned through 2 Hughes 500s and 3 Bell long rangers in a decade.
Enjoyed watching video. From one Robinson owner to the other. Be careful and always respect the helicopter. Fly safe and enjoy!
Friends don't let friends fly Robinsons! #SafetyRecord #GetA_Bo105
@@MajorCaliber Ha! When I began flying, 1986, the Bell 206 was the trainer. Not as many opportunities in my area to train in turbine aircraft. Many R44's around here for training
49% of all accidents and 54% of fatal helicopter accudents. Some organisations will not allow staff to fly in robinson
Great video, just a few things you forgot to mention is that with Robinson, it’s 2200hrs OR 12 years. Meaning you can buy new. Fly 100 hours over 12 years and now your basically brand new helicopter needs a complete overhaul. And that any $60000 R22 will either be timed out or nearly timed out. That said you are right in that it is still the cheapest certified helicopter. Cheers man stay safe
Exactly! I also did the math....
Thanks for the detail
How much is an overhaul, assuming 2200 hours and using his depreciation rate of $63 that comes out to $138,600...is that correct? Holy cow
@@camaro6810 According to the Robinson website… $207,000 base price not including upgrades for the r22 overhaul.
Over the years, I’ve had the opportunity to shoot video and still photography from the R22, Hughes 300 and Bell 47. I loved them all, particularly the Bell. But then as a fixed wing pilot I’m enamored with anything that flies, regardless of whether the wings are fixed or spin. What types of commercial work do you do?
I know nothing about helicopters and you couldn't pay me to ever fly in one but the engineering to make one fly is amazing and your presentation was to the point and gave me a great appreciation on the subject, thanks !!
I'm a retired Army 64 pilot. Flown thousands of hours and didn't die once!
Yup, you know nothing about flying.
You could also get there with a STOL aircraft and paramotors, both of which are cheaper.
Looks like fun and it's an expensive venture, totally enjoyable video, thank you!
Thank you for posting and kudos to you for trusting such thin tubing.
It obviously works given how many are out there, but as a Bell Medium guy, you'd never convince me to ride in one.
Regardless, respect to "one of us"!❤
What type of job do you have to pay for all this?
I am a pilot. I bought the helicopter to build time for my career.
@@mattylp8 well, i think you misunderstood. They are asking what you did to afford your helicopter, private pilots license, etc. 😊
ikr, he certainly isn't taking out student loans. i guess i'll just have to stick to microsoft flight simulator.
Most likely family money. Not trying to say he's spoiled, but if he bought this with only his earned money before becoming a pilot, then I don't think he'll be changing careers I can tell you that if he's making that much money.
Edit: So I found out the helicopter is owned by Time Kepp with "Sky River Helicopters" which is a helicopter tour company. I'm guessing it's being leased right now but that's TBD.
@@NorthAviation_he just said he’s a pilot. That’s his job
I am just a private pilot fixed wing. Cessna 150 then 172 currently 182 . I would more than likely kill myself in a helicopter, they are too unforgiving when mistakes are made. But my hats off to you and your Helicopter fly high Sir
This is a great video. No BS.
"I'm on an island surrounded by water"
Isn't that kinda the definition of an island? 😆
That's like "worlds smallest in the world" haha
You could be in Iceland and be on an island surrounded by lava 😮
I think the proper definition would have been ‘it’s a sandbar’. Years when I flew out of Creve Couer and Spirit, a bunch of the Cub pilots used to fly the Missouri and land on the sandbars.
@@Stormspotter911as soon as he said the only way on the island was by boat or heli, I immediately thought of the boys out in Alaska & BC landing on sandbars 🫡
Thanks for contributing nothing to the world except fulfilling your ego w this useless ass comment sir.
Thank you so much! Great information! I’m just getting ready to start my R22 lessons, and recently purchased the HOGS book.
In Europe and in the UK prices are higher to own one of them. And R22 takes just one passenger so they are great for training but not much for commercial use. Then you need the R44 that costs more. I also considered buying one but I find Porsches more fun still and more usable fun.
On aircraft24 I found R22 even at $60k , what is the catch?
@@jirrovemost likely needs a rebuild
We use to use R22 for detailed lidar flights for topography. Now we have drones. Although our drones cost more, better end product using an iPad. Actual flight time was much better though.
did not realize how expensive insurance was, how often do you have to renew your license, is it yearly?
Insurance is really expensive! I renew my pilots license every 2 years(Bi-annual flight review).
isnt that expensive, i was paying 500ish for a car monthly , so i take 750 for a helicopter any day!
@@bladi-senpai9398500 monthly for a car? I pay 480 a year in the best possible insurance plan, love small cars haha
First, I love watching your videos. Hamburger in a helicopter. Retiring school resource officer... in a helicopter. Cruising for a bruising... in a helicopter. Pretty cool.
Depending on where you are, time-building can be challenging. Often a lifestyle change (that means "pack your stuff up and move") is more economical and easier than purchasing a helicopter.
But hey. I love your videos. They remind me of a dream I once had. Keep living the dream!
Ehud
FAA Commercial pilot - rotorcraft
Tucson, Arizona
(Yes, in the summer DA is 5000-7000ft)
Small experimental home built airplanes cost around $20K for the kit, engine, and under FAR103 no pilots license or sports license required, but the aircraft weight limit of 254lbs, which means very thin aluminum, fabric coated, or very thin pre-preg carbon in Teflon vacuum bags on molds into a large enough pressure cooker *autoclave* // thankfully some of the kits supply nearly everything that bolts together like an erecter set, nuts and bolts with cotter pins safety so they don't unscrew and come undone causing parts to disconnect midflight.
Fokker Mark VIII kit less than $8000 with everything needed. 1 seater, so a sky toy, but that is the cheapest thing I can find other than a used paramotor.
The only way to get to the most remote spots is by hiking or canoe. On many areas like the BWCA aircraft or motorized vehicles of any kind are not allowed.
Brilliant! Many thanks for sharing this from Edinburgh, UK. 👍🚁
how much communication with atc do you need if you take off from your house and land at some random place like an island like you showed?
It depends if you’re operating within controlled airspace. If you’re in uncontrolled airspace it is good practice to make periodic calls on the local area frequency. Usually this includes aircraft callsign, location, altitude, track and destination.
Outstanding vids, watched a few other pilots vids online but watching yours renewed my interest big time 👍
You could get a bush plane on that sand bar without a problem. Nice video.
Did you complete your fixed wing first ?
One such thing interesting to make a note “view” . Glad you got one for yourself & Appreciate your work to inspire to have one though.God bless you 😇🙏🏻
Easily get there on that particular sandbar with a Supercub and many other airplanes. That being said, I appreciate your video. I'm interested in adding a rotorwing aircraft and license to my fleet and certificates.
Private pilot with about ~80ish hours in Robinsons (mix of 22 and 44 but mostly 22 time). Thanks for the breakdown, looks more or less close to what I have been seeing here in NC. Rather than going with a 22 I am considering buying a 44 and renting it to our school so it makes some money while I am not flying it and it doubles as a time builder for when I am. I love flying the 22, it's what I usually fly due to how cheap it is per hour compared to the 44 but I would love to buy a used 44 and see if I can get to 1000 hours with it without breaking the bank.
How many hours do you have left on that R22 before it needs a major overhaul? Just curious. It's a sweet bird and looks in mint condition. Cheers from Raleigh, NC!
I know of a few! Message me on Instagram!
I have a question, if I owned a huge chunk of land, could I buy a helicopter and don't get a license as long as I don't leave my property?
You can in its an ultra light classification and youre flying in class G airspace. (This information is relevant for the United states only)
been here since 10k im pretty sure. love the videos man
Why didn’t you get your instructors certification to help build hours? That is what I have seen to be the most common path for commercial pilots.
It's actually a lot cheaper than i thought tbh. Pretty cool that it's possible to do this if you're motivated and interested enough.
Price of watching Matty do it on TH-cam: free. 😎
Just for people that would like to know. If you want to get both Privet Pilot License (PPL) for airplane (Fixed Wing) and Helicopter (Rotor Wing) then get the airplane first because it can help cut combined cost because 20 hours of your fixed wing counts toward your rotor wing.
"I'm on an island that's surrounded by.... water"
Yep, that's an island! :)
Amazing video matt would love to see more videos from you
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Sir, how do I migrate to India? I currently live in Australia - I would like to come somewhere nice.
I want to visit Hyderabad looks like an amazing place and I love biryani.
I wanted to learn here in the uk prices are much higher and not doable for me unless i sold my house and lived in the heli lol.
Had a trial lesson though and loved it.
But in reality i get my kicks from motorcycles, embt and drone racing and enjoy life.
If i ever come into serious money though i know id be getting into a heli.
You could go for gyro copters which are a lot cheaper in all respects or, like me, you could fly a paramotor which is almost the same sensation but costs about $1500 to learn, *10k for the wing and paramotor and then about $10 for gas for about 3 hours of flight. My paramotor easily fits in the back of my car when transporting it or somewhere in my garage when storing it. I'll admit it's not the safest form of flight but it is exhilarating and doesn't break the bank.
Looks fun! Reminds me a little of flying my ultralight back in the day. Fly safe
Good video! Keep up the work
Thanks Ducky!
There is a counter rotating backpack harness style helicopter ultralight that varies the speed of one or the other rotor to vector control steering without a tail-rotor, like some RC toys. I remember an electric model from Japan that was $6000, but could only fly for about 5 minutes before juicing the battery pack, known as a short hop device. Furthermore, electric car shaped quad rotor like Ehang 184, but kits, using commercial drone motors on all 4 corners like wheels on a car, varying the speed of the motors to control lift and vector steering, pitch, yaw and roll. Look up DIY personal flight devices or DIY flying machines.
Never owned a 'copter but owned a Cessna Cardinal RG and can confidently say that whatever you think an airplane will cost, it is more.
How about the Hughes 269 or Schweizer 300, those seem smaller than the R22.
Both are bigger(I believe)
Nice numbers videos!
A lot more than my cherokee 180. I do have a few hours in the r22 and loved it.
Disconnect the Hobbs meter to save on depreciation…use Chevron high octane gas at $3.50 gallon…
I owned one of the early R22s when they cost $90k plus and you flew it home from California. Insurance was $10k per year with a $10k deductible. I learned in a Bell47d, a very stable platform. The R22 is much harder to fly and much harder to do autorotations in. Little boys, little toys. It was fun when I was doing it but you aren’t going far in an R22. Nice video.
@@helicopter2992 meow
Great video - thank you!
I could absolutely plant my bone stock Cessna 150 on that sand bar lol
And there it would stay forever.
About to use my GI BILL. Thank you for making this. This is the chopper I want buy first also. Great video
So... at current prices for trucks, cars, SUV's... the 60k-100k range is normal/reasonable. Then maintenance,cost per ownership year... VERY reasonable especially if you're getting work returns commercially or even privately. Thanks for the share!
I just found your channel. This is so cool! I appreciate all that you are explaining to us. 🚁
Don't forget about composite-fx/mosquitos! They are FAA regulated helicopters. Only caveat is that they only seat one person. Cool people, made in Trenton, Florida!
What you call “depreciation” is really an hourly estimate of routine maintenance, if I’m not mistaken.
The R22 and R44 have documented issues with delamination of the rotors. What is your opinion/thoughts on that?
The stainless skinned blades were problematic - They were phased out , Never had an issue with the ones I flew.
@@HongyaMa Appreciate the reply. Retired mil pilot, safe flying. Cheers.
Ole Crew Chief OH 58, UH 1 CH 47
and Commercial Helicopter / 133
Flew nearly everything under 12,500 lb@@scottyscave
Thanks for the video! People talk about how expensive it is to own a horse or a boat. Try a plane. A relative has a Cessna 172.
My sister worked at Robinson in Torrance for years.
Some of the testing they did was crazy for the FAA
Honestly inshurance is deal breaker. But assuming that all of inshurances all together went sky rocketing then hopefully prices will went down a bit. Other that is actually not expensive if you can buy yourself a nice piece up until 100k
Yep....your on an island.....hope you don't break down or have any maintenance issues!
Great video!
Thanks Brad!
How do you move the helicopter to the hanger?. I assume you can't just lift it.
Just love the sound of those rotor blades...!!!!!
Thanks for the insights! I’m not looking to buy one 😂 but still interesting to know!😊
Without getting too personal, are you independently wealthy? I'm 50 and recently took a check ride in a 22. I was planning on doing the same.thing and getting my private pilots license. It was fun and I would love to do it and could justify the costof getting my license, but I'm prob too old to try it to make a career out of it and the cost Is prohibitive to get the recommended hours before any company would hire you.
You have youth on your side.... .My son wants to fly helos, so he is going to go to college thru ROTC and try to go thru Army Avation route. Good luck and happy flying. At least we can live vicariously thru you😅
Getting a helicopter license here in the Netherlands is a minimum of 40k (6 months, 45 h min)
Great video! Do you fly other types?
I spent maybe around $80-90,000 getting all of my helicopter ratings up to CFII. I get paid to build my flight time as a flight instructor. There will never be cheaper nor faster way of building flight time in a helicopter. But I have to admit, your method does seem like a ton of fun!
So i have a question….. what do you do when your Airframe reaches 12k hours? Which for most trainers that are in the market is where your under 100k price point is….. Also you forgot to mention that you have to go to Robbinson to train before you can own one….. which is pretty standard. Also your forgetting your biggest cost which is to insure you and it……. Great video but that’s a big expense not to mention, also I believe for you to even be insurable , you have to have X number of hours in type. Which you can do in training but still at 489 dollars an hour wet….. what r we doing?
Great content. So, what sort of commercial activity can you do with an R22?
An airplane can absolutely land on that island. Watch some videos of them doing it all over the US - especially Alaska. It's very cool.
How do they know you got more time flying do you record yourself every time?
If I understand your reference to depreciation of $63/hr, do you mean after 2200 hours (the TBO? or airframe useful life?) it costs $138K to go through the bird and zero the time? A little googling I did says you can reman the motor and go through the rest of the bird... replace rotor blades, etc. and keep it airworthy... so is that ~$138K?
Great video and sweet heli. Enjoy!
Keep up the great work i love your videos
What is the practical flight time / range in miles for this helicopter? How high do you fly in this helicopter?
short and to the point. i like it
Very informative information. Thank you. This is my dream...
Way cheaper then I was expecting, I thought training costed way more. I’m looking to get my private airplane licence for fun, in Canada
This is one of the most interesting and informative video I've seen for a good while. Way, way out of my price range, unfortunately.
do you fear mast bump in this whirlybird?
This was incredibly informative and very interesting.
Is it the same as flying a water plane? What's the cost for owning and operating those?
Bird strikes a concern in that ? Great video.
Back in 1973 there were always a few adults taking separate classes at the Civil Air Patrol meetings. As a new member I asked.
"They joined the CAP last month, there getting certified for a private pilot licence.". I said Oh cool, typical 7th grader response.
"Bet your ass Cool,There getting it for Free". I wonder if they still offer it. Interested parties should check it out.
Thankyou for the video. I am more interested on how to get the turbine certification process. Plus, is there any difference in certification for a single turbine engine (R66) v/s a twin Turbine engine (Bell 429)and others like them.
That's not an issue, Mostly insurance requirements
Certificate is good for everything rotary wing under 12,500 lbs . . . Piston or Turbine , Single or Twin - US
No type rating , Some countries require a rating in each type ie: R-22, R-22 Standard, R-22 Hp, R-22 Alpha, R-22 Beta and Mariner . US you can fly all of them, In Japan you'll need a type rating in each,
@@HongyaMa thankyou
The more engines you have the more gas you burn the more complex maintenance and service is.
@@RowanHawkins Oh im sure it is. I was just wondering if you needed an additional certification to fly with two turbines rather than with one
New Sub! I took a Ride in a R22 years ago. SUPER FUN and COOL! And it ain't cheap....
Do you fly professionally for work? Or how did you manage to afford lessons? I'm thinking of getting my PPL but want to start with planes first
Getting your fixed wont be super effective for getting roto, its a different skillset other than the map and radio stuff which. everything mechanical is different from how you do eyes out of the cockpit.
If you have a ppl for plane is helicopter something I can add like an endorsement or rating ?
You can add a helicopter to your ppl, but it is not enough endorsement
So... where can you land? i dont expect you can go grocery shopping with it?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$ out of my league for sure!!! Enjoy - you obviously work very hard for that experience. That's a boat load of money to just fly around and see things from the air. Now if you are fishing from that sand bar then you could call it an expensive boat.
See Jack Holiday in Old Bali Beach Island , like Modif Helicopter in area Mandalika
No interest in helicopters but this was really interesting, safe flying / hovering 😊
Can u do a video how to start up the helicopter and how to take off and land it too
Can you put a parachute on it?
"Only a helicopter can land here" Mike patey takes note and accepts the challenge lol
Yeah, I was thinking that there are lots of bush planes that could stick that landing.
I fly fixed-wing out of your airport. Cool videos!
Same lol. Met him once, super friendly.
You could also land and take off there in a bush plane😉