I agree there is a black and white mentality about feminine vs masculine energy. Interdependence is an absolute symbiosis like an ecosystem where everything interacts. There is absolutely an interdependency.
Everything that has been said is important but for me around 36:59 .. the topic about reaching out is not chasing, stood out for me because I confused it with chasing and I am glad they spoke about this. Yes, I won’t bother with reaching out to people to don’t reach out to me. 👍🏼 very valuable information.
Ugh I loved this! I’ve never watched anything like this, two highly intelligent women having an intelligent conversation about life. This has given me lots to think about in my own life and gave me so many “ah ha!” moments. I love listening to Margaritas thoughts so this was right up my alley, I felt very involved in the conversation 😂❤
I always knew that I wanted to be a mother who stayed at home with her kids. My youngest just turned 20 and I always say...my kids are my greatest creation in life. I'm so proud of them. Society is another story. I have felt belittled and less than over the years by friends and even some family members. I think that I'm a naturally nurturing person. Yes, I've had to learn how to move on after a divorce, but such is life. I've worked off and on over the years to get by and had to lean on family. I'm now taking on the next phase of an empty nest and have been dating and moving forward with my life. Still, I'm so proud of my life as a mom. So who cares what others think?
Wow I really am happy that I found your TH-cam Margarita it is awesome. I am 59 years old all ever wanted to be was a housewife. My 1st 2 husbands were not with thankfully my 3rd husband that I have now We were friends in high school and we are separate ways but now after all these years We met in 1980 and now we are back together and married it is beautiful. He actually prefers that I stay home I'm so thankful this is such a Blessing. All the years that I worked because I had to to support my daughters wasn't what I really wanted to do. I just wanted to be able to stay home with my children and be a House wife. It's awesome to finally have what I wanted. Your other videos have really helped me especially the one About anxious attachment. The information you gave in that video helped me so much and I think it has saved me from going down the wrong road again. God-bless you. Veeta
Are you going to take your channel content more to dialogues like this one? I hope so - this one worked so well. You both appeared very natural and that helped the practical wisdom unfold. BTW the masculine / feminine polarity is just one example of the opponent processing that seems to exist everywhere in nature. It seems to be a pattern that evolved to cope with dynamic environments. Men and women need to learn to celebrate and support their differences as part of a successful union! Love the new direction!
Hi Darren! Yes - there will be a mixture of guest and solo episodes. Absolutely - I am also a big fan of natural law and our human ability to discern it - something I will be diving into in an episode soon. Thanks so much for the feedback!
just found this podcast randomly. am hoping this will be a more balanced view of men and women. Most podcasts about these are too "emotional" or, rather, it feels like more of an excuse to hate on one or the other. Btw, you both look like models. Very beautiful classic faces. Will update on my thoughts when done. Update: okay, I just finished it and there are some terms I'm not familiar with and I wish there was some clearer explanation for masculine and feminine. But overall, I was not disappointed, you both said some things that I completely would've never thought of. Really good.
Hello Bernice! I'm so glad this discussion was helpful for you! Great question - check out Margarita's TikTok as she may have some book suggestions there. In terms of the wounded feminine - I recommend taking a look at Jeb Kinnison's work on attachment styles - simply transformative. He is HIGHLY nuanced - not like some of the overly simple stuff you find elsewhere. Good luck!
I think what Kat was trying to say is that toxic or narcissistic men will listen to what you want, pretend to be that and then eventually trap you and pull a 180. A lot of dating coaches tell women not to over share what you want because if he has bad intentions he will use it to either pretend to be that or use it to manipulate you. If it’s not who he really is he won’t be able to hold up this charade forever.
If you walk into a relationship with the fear of being "trapped" or "manipulated" you've already lost... Work on your trauma before entering a relationship.
Yes! Exactly. It's important to see what kind of a man he is (not just in reference to you). I.e. who was he before he was with you? It's also important though, to leave room for a man to rise to the occasion for you. It's tricky to tell when you might be getting manipulated, or when a man is genuinely inspired to meet your needs and rise to the occasion. This is why discernment and wise council from other older women in successful relationships is key :)
Really nice content. Just one question...if the wife is at home fulltime and the husband is working fulltime, I always think it is such a pity for the kids cause they will miss their father more...
I definitely think a man can neglect his family by overworking. His presence is very important. In the same way a woman can neglect her children through work - a man can too!
What if I have not found the partner that's right for me to be able to have children, it's too late now so how do I navigate that, having children is not a single person choice nor is it a case of I chose work over this etc, I feel very sad
Idk man kids seems like a trap as humans We build destroy and repopulate in a forever cycle our innate programming is to create things😂 never had kids myself but to me seems like it’s more learning lessons an extra class or extra credit courses like the path sure can be done but ya don’t have too 😂 I wanna be able to come back to earth nd find out we can finally communicate effectively to all animals nd insects so might pop out a bby or 2 to see it through as contribution to that reality Thanks you !
I agree there is a black and white mentality about feminine vs masculine energy. Interdependence is an absolute symbiosis like an ecosystem where everything interacts. There is absolutely an interdependency.
Yes I love that - we should not be afraid of interdependency. A healthy union is like an amoeba - a beautiful symbiosis!
Everything that has been said is important but for me around 36:59 .. the topic about reaching out is not chasing, stood out for me because I confused it with chasing and I am glad they spoke about this.
Yes, I won’t bother with reaching out to people to don’t reach out to me. 👍🏼 very valuable information.
Love this insight!
Ugh I loved this! I’ve never watched anything like this, two highly intelligent women having an intelligent conversation about life. This has given me lots to think about in my own life and gave me so many “ah ha!” moments. I love listening to Margaritas thoughts so this was right up my alley, I felt very involved in the conversation 😂❤
I'm so glad! Yay!
The TAO, the flow of things-the way things go…NATURE!
It’s awesome
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Thank you Devin! Absolutely - there is so much peace in allowing what's natural to "be". Glad you enjoyed the ep
I always knew that I wanted to be a mother who stayed at home with her kids. My youngest just turned 20 and I always say...my kids are my greatest creation in life. I'm so proud of them. Society is another story. I have felt belittled and less than over the years by friends and even some family members. I think that I'm a naturally nurturing person. Yes, I've had to learn how to move on after a divorce, but such is life. I've worked off and on over the years to get by and had to lean on family. I'm now taking on the next phase of an empty nest and have been dating and moving forward with my life. Still, I'm so proud of my life as a mom. So who cares what others think?
Wow I really am happy that I found your TH-cam Margarita it is awesome. I am 59 years old all ever wanted to be was a housewife. My 1st 2 husbands were not with thankfully my 3rd husband that I have now We were friends in high school and we are separate ways but now after all these years We met in 1980 and now we are back together and married it is beautiful. He actually prefers that I stay home I'm so thankful this is such a Blessing. All the years that I worked because I had to to support my daughters wasn't what I really wanted to do. I just wanted to be able to stay home with my children and be a House wife. It's awesome to finally have what I wanted. Your other videos have really helped me especially the one About anxious attachment. The information you gave in that video helped me so much and I think it has saved me from going down the wrong road again. God-bless you.
Veeta
i’m so glad you have been blessed with the life / role you desired! may God bless you and your family 🤍
Are you going to take your channel content more to dialogues like this one? I hope so - this one worked so well. You both appeared very natural and that helped the practical wisdom unfold. BTW the masculine / feminine polarity is just one example of the opponent processing that seems to exist everywhere in nature. It seems to be a pattern that evolved to cope with dynamic environments. Men and women need to learn to celebrate and support their differences as part of a successful union! Love the new direction!
Hi Darren! Yes - there will be a mixture of guest and solo episodes. Absolutely - I am also a big fan of natural law and our human ability to discern it - something I will be diving into in an episode soon. Thanks so much for the feedback!
@@wheretruth_lies Argghhhh ruba dub dub, argghhh boobly blah bloo. Xoxo from divine masculinity.
Psf
I'm watching this during my PMS, I might get my period in 3 days. I work from home and I feel lucky to be less productive during this period.
Ok cant wait to listen!! Begii ning now 😊 i love to hear smart women talk about relationship issues.
Thanks ladies!!
just found this podcast randomly. am hoping this will be a more balanced view of men and women. Most podcasts about these are too "emotional" or, rather, it feels like more of an excuse to hate on one or the other.
Btw, you both look like models. Very beautiful classic faces. Will update on my thoughts when done.
Update: okay, I just finished it and there are some terms I'm not familiar with and I wish there was some clearer explanation for masculine and feminine. But overall, I was not disappointed, you both said some things that I completely would've never thought of. Really good.
'Learning to love yourself, the way a healthy man would love you.'
*** MEDICINE!
Fantastic 👏
Such a fabulous discussion! Does Margarita have any books she’d recommend on the wounded feminine or the masculine/feminine polarity?
Hello Bernice! I'm so glad this discussion was helpful for you! Great question - check out Margarita's TikTok as she may have some book suggestions there. In terms of the wounded feminine - I recommend taking a look at Jeb Kinnison's work on attachment styles - simply transformative. He is HIGHLY nuanced - not like some of the overly simple stuff you find elsewhere. Good luck!
I think what Kat was trying to say is that toxic or narcissistic men will listen to what you want, pretend to be that and then eventually trap you and pull a 180. A lot of dating coaches tell women not to over share what you want because if he has bad intentions he will use it to either pretend to be that or use it to manipulate you. If it’s not who he really is he won’t be able to hold up this charade forever.
they cannot trap you if you have boundaries, if he reverts you simply leave
If you walk into a relationship with the fear of being "trapped" or "manipulated" you've already lost...
Work on your trauma before entering a relationship.
Yes! Exactly. It's important to see what kind of a man he is (not just in reference to you). I.e. who was he before he was with you? It's also important though, to leave room for a man to rise to the occasion for you. It's tricky to tell when you might be getting manipulated, or when a man is genuinely inspired to meet your needs and rise to the occasion. This is why discernment and wise council from other older women in successful relationships is key :)
I love her ❤
Really nice content. Just one question...if the wife is at home fulltime and the husband is working fulltime, I always think it is such a pity for the kids cause they will miss their father more...
I definitely think a man can neglect his family by overworking. His presence is very important. In the same way a woman can neglect her children through work - a man can too!
Yeah Exactly, when a Man asks what I “bring to the table” is just so off putting. They just need to go to work and work hard.
What if I have not found the partner that's right for me to be able to have children, it's too late now so how do I navigate that, having children is not a single person choice nor is it a case of I chose work over this etc, I feel very sad
It is important that you grieve and don't avoid your pain. After that - hope - anything is possible :)
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Idk man kids seems like a trap as humans We build destroy and repopulate in a forever cycle our innate programming is to create things😂 never had kids myself but to me seems like it’s more learning lessons an extra class or extra credit courses like the path sure can be done but ya don’t have too 😂 I wanna be able to come back to earth nd find out we can finally communicate effectively to all animals nd insects so might pop out a bby or 2 to see it through as contribution to that reality Thanks you !